205: Find Your Switzer & Like a Prayer

Summary

We're Here to Help — Episode 205: Find Your Switzer & Like a Prayer

Podcast: We're Here to Help
Date: September 8, 2025
Hosts: Jake Johnson & Gareth Reynolds
Producer: Headgum

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Overview

This episode is classic “We’re Here to Help” — a blend of comedic banter, deeply unnecessary digs at one another, and an earnest attempt to help listeners with their uniquely specific dilemmas. Episode 205 is a cornucopia of ongoing bits (the “Steve Calendar”), show traditions (making decisions through competition and voting), and emotional depth, as Jake and Gareth return to hallmark themes: friendship, closure, and how the hell do you (actually) help someone you barely know? The two main storylines:

1. Helping Joe in Milwaukee create a triumphant “farewell tour” for his legendary pub trivia night;
2. Mediating an emotional, hilarious, and ultimately crowd-decided contest for Detroit Lions season tickets between two exes, Sophie and Aaron, featuring a memorable “Like a Prayer” sing-off.

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Key Segments & Insights

I. Patreon Theatrics: Steve Berg’s Calendar & The Helpy Awards

Timestamps: 00:49–05:53

• The hosts recap the ongoing saga of Steve Berg's “sexy calendar” photo shoot — the fulfillment of a lost bet, with details about the shoot including “two bridges,” a rotisserie chicken, and a series of heavily themed looks (50s bad boy, outdoorsman, Deadhead, car wash, etc.).
• Gareth riffs: “Ladies and gentlemen of the audience, if you’re not excited to see this calendar, then you’re listening to the wrong show.” (03:23)
• The “Helpies,” their new annual award for best caller, are introduced. Nominations are open — listeners should email a voice note nominating amazing past callers, with a calendar prize at stake.

II. Friendship Game Update

Timestamps: 06:12–08:10

• Ongoing project: The “friendship game” — helping listeners who need new friends. Gareth reports Sarah from Philly, who needs a skate buddy, is crushing the vote tally.
• Voting call to action: “Sarah is running away with the competition. Go to weneedtopick.com/friendshipcastingone and vote today.” (07:49)

III. Show Evolution & New Listener Advice

Timestamps: 08:25–09:31

• Jake and Gareth reflect: if starting the show now, don’t go back to the very beginning — season two is where the magic starts (“Rabbit Granite” is suggested as a great jumping-off point).
• Episodes will now be broken into “seasons” with their own vibes, ending at each new year.

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IV. Caller One: Joe’s Milwaukee Trivia Farewell

Timestamps: 14:11–41:09

Caller: Joe (from Milwaukee, WI)

Dilemma: Joe’s run a packed weekly pub trivia for a decade at Blackbird bar, winning Milwaukee’s “Best Trivia Night” award four out of eight years. But now, regulars won’t vote for him anymore — they don’t want the bar busier. Joe wants advice on inspiring folks to help him win one last time before retiring on top.

The Spirited Brainstorm

• Farewell Tour Branding:
  Jake: “What if we do Joe’s final year? The Farewell Tour… And we’re looking for my replacement. But the only way to really do it is you need to win this year and then the new person wins next year. Now it’s sealed.” (22:09)
• Finding the New Trivia Host:
  Gareth proposes a “Barry Switzer moment” (after the legendary Dallas Cowboys coaching handoff): use a voting platform to nominate Joe’s successor, cross-promote both the “final year” campaign and his legacy.
• Campaign Vibe:
  T-shirts, buttons, banners, QR codes — turn the last year into Joe’s “David vs. Goliath” campaign against bigger, corporate trivia nights.

  “It’s a full campaign and I think the website, which I really like that Gareth is pitching, shirts… Can this little trivia game in this little 85-seater win?” — Jake (27:14)

• Direct Action:
  • Take a break mid-trivia, have everyone vote on the spot via QR code, treat it like “Simon Says” for trivia.
  • Possibly low-key sabotage rival trivia nights (hilarious, but everyone agrees that’s crossing the line).
  • Enlist Gareth’s stand-up shows in Milwaukee to shout out Joe’s trivia, push QR code flyers, and amplify the on-the-ground campaign.

Notable Quote

“I think leaning into getting real kitschy with campaign stuff—hats, buttons, flyers, going to other trivias, and making my team name ‘Vote for Blackbird Bar Trivia Instead of This One’...” — Joe (31:32)

Action Plan

• Build a “we need to pick” website for replacement voting and campaign cross-promotion.
• Make Joe’s final year a hyper-local event, collaborating with the podcast for extra visibility.
• Set up an appearance at Gareth’s hometown shows.
• Plan a follow-up for the big results in January.

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V. Caller Two: The Detroit Lions Ticket Sing-Off

Timestamps: 45:16–84:58

Callers: Sophie & Aaron (Detroit, MI)

Backstory: Exes. Split season tickets. Broke up. Original show plan was a singing contest (episode with Judd Apatow), but Sophie ghosted due to anxiety — now they're back, seeking closure and official ticket ownership.

The Rematch — With Real Stakes

• Getting to the Competition:

  • Sophie and Aaron must agree on a format before competing — some suggestions include trivia, pleading their case, singing Madonna’s “Like a Prayer.”
  • Aaron: “It depends on what the competition is.” (57:51)
  • Consensus: Each gets one minute to make their pitch for the tickets. Sophie sings; Aaron pleads her case.
  • Both agree that whoever wins must pay for the tickets — not just get them for free.

• Sophie’s Minute (Singing “Like a Prayer”):

  “Life is a mystery, everyone must stand alone / I hear you call my name and it feels like…” (72:00–73:01)
  Sophie’s voice is strong, passionate, and “brought the heat,” making the most of the show’s musical contest tradition.

• Aaron’s Minute (Earnest Plea):

  “I paid the waitlist fee, which she did not… the account is in my name. I bought all the playoff tickets, including the expensive ones last year… and I did show up for that first call and humiliated myself for the tickets.” (80:23–81:24)

  • Cites lifelong fandom, original waitlist, actual payments, and “suffering through all the bad years.”

Vote Goes to the People!

• All listeners are directed to vote at weneedtopick.com/lionstickets before the first home game.
• The results will be revealed on a follow-up episode.

Quotes & Highlights

• Jake: “I gotta say, from a dud of a first call, this has turned into a top 10 for me. From dud to stud.” (84:00–84:04)
• Gareth: “Both very good. I have no idea who’s going to win.” (82:09)
• Sophie (after singing): “I’m going to bring some singing to the mix, since I flaked the first time.” (71:26)
• Aaron (on her plea): “Also, I bought a lot of cute outfits for the season that I cannot return because it’s past the return window.” (81:04)

Tone & Takeaway

• Uproarious, occasionally chaotic, and full of genuine emotion and self-deprecation. Jake and Gareth volley between goofball counseling and actual mediation, making space for vulnerability (“Anxiety is a real thing… I truly have zero judgment”) and humor.
• The “Parent Trap”/rom-com bit about their exes’ chemistry is played up but with genuine warmth.

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Memorable Quotes

• Jake: “Ladies and gentlemen, if you’re not excited to see this calendar, then find another show. There’s a billion of them.” (03:23)
• Gareth: “Anytime I’m in a bar and someone sets up a speaker for karaoke or trivia, I’m like, ‘No. Out.’” (19:20–19:34)
• Joe: “I think leaning into getting real kitschy with campaign stuff—hats, buttons, flyers, going to other trivias, and making my team name ‘Vote for Blackbird Trivia Instead of This One’... just so the host has to read it out.” (31:32)
• Aaron (Lions ticket competition): “I bought a lot of cute outfits for the season that I can’t return because it’s past the return window.” (81:04)

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Important Timestamps

• Introducing Steve's Calendar / Helpies Awards — 00:49–05:53
• Friendship Game Voting Update — 06:12–08:10
• Guidance for New Listeners & Season Structure — 08:25–09:31
• Joe’s Trivia Farewell Plan — 14:11–41:09
• Detroit Lions Ticket Competition – Part 1 (Sophie & Aaron Explained) — 45:16–57:02
• Minute Pitches: Sophie Sings, Aaron Pleads — 71:03–81:46
• Voting Call-to-Action & Wrap-Up — 82:00–84:58

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Final Thoughts

Episode 205 is a superlative display of Jake and Gareth’s strengths: improvisational empathy, ruthless joking, and creative solutions for otherwise small problems. The show continues to blur the lines between advice, game show, and slice-of-life, serving deeply invested listeners as well as complete newcomers.
For fans: vote, listen for your moment, and, as always, expect the unexpected.

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Vote: WeNeedToPick.com/LionsTickets
Contact: [e-mail]
Video: Patreon.com/heretohelppod

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(Summary by Podcast Summarizer, 2025 — all ad reads, intros, and outros omitted)

Transcript

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Sweet Jesse. Sweet Jake.

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Nope. Lots going on, Jake.

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Lots going on.

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Where do we even start? Why don't we start? Yeah, why don't we start with the big one? We made the bet a long time ago that Steve would have to do a sexy photo shoot for a Betty lost in the world of Patreon. We've really dug in deep with this. We had a session with the photographer, we pitched the looks we wanted, and.

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Let me give you a little appetizer. And I'm not going to give anything away, but Gareth. So Steve and Ali, our photographer, went off to a field with two bridges in a creek in Omaha.

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Two bridges got brought up for some reason, and Jake responded very like, whoa, two bridges? I was the only one who's like, that's very common. Okay.

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Well, Steve said it went really well.

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Yes.

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And I'm gonna just read a little something if that's okay. Yeah, he just said, guys, it went really well. Gareth wrote. Yes. And Steve wrote the word smolder was being thrown around. Garrett said, bye, question mark. Berg said, like, dot, dot, dot, and everyone in the park, you'll see. We then jump a little bit forward. I'll just tell you this as an appetizer. There was a rotisserie chicken there, whole.

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One, which he said had a little funk to it. Man.

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We just wanted different looks. We're building a calendar. We're going to make 12 different picks. It's going to be something that we. We have. We can give it away at the helpies is something Gareth is about to tell you about. But let me just give you a taste of some looks that Berg teased us with.50s bad boy.

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It's the. It's a strong start.

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Outdoorsman, fly fishing, 70s stoner, Grateful Dead, car wash, preppy picnic, and more. Ladies and gentlemen of the audience, if you're not excited to see this calendar, then you're listening to the wrong show. Then turn the podcast off and find another one. There's a billion of them. We got a Steve Berg calendar coming your way. Bring on Laurie. Bring on the shark thing.

[B]

Everybody's buying in now you're. Which one are you most excited by? Mine's very obvious.

[A]

You want the 50s bad boy.

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Anytime he says bad.

[C]

Your pitch. Did you guys actually pitch?

[B]

Yeah, we kind of pitched that.

[A]

Yeah, no, he pitched that one I wanted maybe. Yeah, I wanted over. Oh, no, I thought you meant you and me. I thought you pitched that one. 50s bad boy.

[B]

I don't remember. I just. When he said bad boy.

[A]

Yeah, I wanted overalls. I wanted dirty gardener. I wanted him in a flower bed. But I wanted.

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There's some stuff we washed that didn't make it. But again, you hear that list? It's very. I mean, there's two bridges.

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Did Eric pitch any looks?

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Oh, Eric and homework.

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No, but we will.

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Eric's impossible to ring.

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We will. We will be showing Eric the looks. We will go whole.

[A]

It'll just simply be this. I don't get what's funny. He looks great. Wow.

[B]

That's your new look. That's your headshot, dude.

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Dude. Wow.

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I legit have a boner, brother. In a good way.

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So. So we have that coming your way. That's very exciting that. There's a lot of that on Patreon if you want more. But if not, you'll see the spoils. Obviously, we're all going to see the 50s bad boy. Then we're also going to do the helpies. We decided at the end of year, we're going to pick our best call. We're going to have a nomination process. We'll open that at some point.

[A]

Let's open it now.

[B]

All right. Sure. It's open right now. Polls are open and where you. Basically, if someone wants to nominate a call, best call of the year, just send a voice note to the show. We'll start airing some of those at the end of the show.

[A]

You cannot. You cannot win if you're not nominated and you cannot self nominate.

[B]

Yeah, we'll know. We will know.

[A]

Well, we'll get the emails.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. They can't start a second email. But we'll figure it out either way. We'll take it down to 10 calls. We'll have a little award ceremony. End of the year, we will figure out our best call.

[A]

And winner gets a calendar.

[B]

Yeah, winner gets a calendar. Losers, if you're in the top 10, you get a calendar. It's just gonna be exciting.

[A]

We'll do something Fun for the winner.

[B]

Yeah.

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So. So people need to email in a.

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Voice note recommending somebody else as the best caller of the year of this.

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Year or of all time.

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All time.

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Yeah. I feel like.

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And then after this we'll go.

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Yeah. Then we'll start going season by season.

[B]

Yeah. So do that. And then we'll vote. We'll have the voting. Which leads us to the friendship game. The last thing.

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Yes.

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Which is also exciting. Which Rob and Berg hosted, did a great job. An episode about basically talking to the people who are in need of a friend and we're going to address the loneliness crisis in this country in a fun, exciting way.

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Yeah. But more than that, Gareth, because everybody knows the game right now but this is what we need to tell people. So we had six different contestants and I'm going to just tell you where it's at right now. You got to go to we need to pick.comfriendship casting one to vote and I'll tell you why. Because the person who gets the most vote is going to win. And right now Sarah, 38 from Philadelphia needs a friend to skate with now that she's learning to skateboard over a thousand votes. Andy, 39 from Massachusetts needs a friend because many of her friends have kids but she does not. She's only got 246. Miriam, 33 from Wheaton needs a friend now that she's a stay at home mom. 760. Christina, 27 from Boston needs a friend now that she's living in the big city. Only 240. Mattia, 25 from Tucson needs a friend because she works in a male dominated industry and wants to make more female friends. 284. Sydney, 37 from Model Colorado needs a friend because she used to work remotely and didn't make friends for a long time. 300. So Gu Sarah is running away with the competition. Everybody go to we need to pick slash one more time. Natalie. Friendship casting one and vote today because the voting is going to end soon. And the winner of that will be the star of friendship game Round two.

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It's exciting. Well that's. That's a lot of stuff. I mean that's pretty good. I don't know what else these people want. We got chimp heads now everything's happening. We've got the sweet J's nat attack. Anyway, the intro's over and then one.

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Quick before we are one more before we go. And I just want to say this because I had been thinking about it and I brought it up on our last follow up. We're at episode two. Whatever. 205, 206. If you were going to find this show and start now, where do you start? Because it's not in the news. It's not. So you can start at one, but I wouldn't start at the beginning.

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No.

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The show has really changed. I think going back to season one is fun, but I would almost say start at the beginning. I would start with rabbit Granite. Season two. I would run through two.

[B]

I mean, don't forget we started with a duck who wanted to fuck a guy.

[A]

It's been a big year.

[B]

It's. It feels like eight years ago.

[A]

That, that I also want. At the end of December, January, this season ends. And I want to break it up into seasons.

[B]

Yep.

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So that each season could have its own feeling to it.

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Yep.

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And we'll just do January 1st.

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I agree. Yeah. Helps the helpies.

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Helps. And then it. Then we'll have, like a big ending and then we'll start over and there'll always be something different.

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Let's do it.

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Great.

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Well, there's that energy from the two of you. All right, well, without further ado.

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Okay, now it's 901. So you want me to let him in, right?

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Okay.

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All right.

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Isn't that what we're doing?

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Go, go, go, go.

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Hello, hello. Hi. Welcome to the show.

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Hey, thanks for having me. How's it going?

[B]

Good, good, good. So you're on with just me. Oh, Natalie's here too. You're on with Gareth and Natalie because. Hey, yesterday. Hey, guys. We did a session and I was maybe three minutes late. I was having some issues with my camera, and they started without me, disrespectfully. So Jake's not here on time, so we decided. Natalie mainly pushed for it, but we decided to start without Jake. So that's just an update. I'm sure he'll join us when he's ready. But as the guy who currently cares about the show, can we get your name, please? Awesome.

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Hey, my name is Joe.

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Joe. What a. What a guy. Joe, where are you calling from?

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I am calling from Milwaukee.

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Oh, my God, yes. Look at us.

[D]

Today.

[B]

Are you near the lakefront? I'm gonna do it, Jake. Yeah, near the lakefront. Near Lake Drive, Shorewood area. Where. Where are we talking?

[D]

Talking, like, Southside.

[B]

Bay View area. I love Bay View. Big fan of Bayview. Yeah. You ever go to Puddlers Hall?

[D]

Every chance I get. They just had a big block party like, two weeks ago.

[B]

Buddy. Go there. Ask for my buddy Brett. Okay? He's my man. All right, Joe, we're all worried that Jake has actually fully forgotten about the session at this point, but we're going to keep going. What. What. What can we do for you today, Joe? Milwaukee, age. I don't care. What can we do?

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I.

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Okay, so I run a pub trivia show each week at a local bar.

[B]

Okay, what bar?

[D]

Blackbird.

[A]

Okay, right in.

[D]

Right in the area. And I've been doing it for quite some time now. Almost 10 years. And about eight years ago. Eight years ago, in 2017, the local indie newspaper finally added.

[B]

Which. What's the local newspaper? Oh, God.

[C]

Sorry.

[B]

Sorry, Joe, I'm gonna have to cut you off. Joe, I'm so sorry. So sorry. Jake has hat on, head not in hand, has shown up to the call.

[A]

Sorry. I was driving my daughter to gymnastics. She's got camp.

[B]

Well, that's what I was doing. I was doing something very similar yesterday when you started without me, and I would have loved to wait, because I think that's a Great excuse, but you instituted. We're not going to get into yesterday. Joe, hold on a second, bud. This is just between me and Jake for a second.

[A]

Sorry about you. I know I got you, but I was driving my daughter to gymnastics.

[B]

Okay, so what, you think you maybe left a little late for that or.

[A]

No, I actually left early. We got stuck in a little bit of traffic.

[B]

Just. That's LA for you.

[A]

What were you doing? Trying on your new tight T shirt with your new necklaces?

[B]

You're the late one, so you don't do stuff like that. You understand me? Do you get it? You know how this works.

[A]

How many. When are you going to start wearing jokers? Berg said you used to wear puka shell necklaces when he first.

[B]

No, don't. You're late. You stop this right now, Johnson.

[A]

Joe, I'm sorry, brother.

[C]

Hey, where?

[D]

Nothing is not flexible.

[B]

Joe's from Milwaukee, okay?

[A]

I know you love Milwaukee.

[B]

It's a great town. Great town, great state by a great lake. And he runs Pub Trivia. He has for 10 years. And we're just about to get into it. Eight years ago, something happened. Joe.

[D]

Yes. Eight years ago, the local indie newspaper added a Best Trivia Night category to its annual Reader's Choice program, which they hail as. No, Milwaukee's longest running and most prestigious Best of awards program. Okay, so we. We have won that best of award four out of the last eight years. We got the first two, and then 21 and 22. But for the past couple years, even though we're nominated, we can't seem to get over that hump and win again and bring this plaque home. So one of the problems here is that in order to win, it's all Reader's Choice. So you have to get people to go to the website, you know, create a login and then vote for like five or six things in order for a vote to count. So you got to get people, you know, engaged and committed to actually voting in it. And I've received a couple of reports from people who come to my quiz as regulars that they specifically will not vote for it anymore because they don't want the bar to get any busier than it already is on trivia nights because it's hard to find seat. And, you know, I understand that. I hate going to a bar. I want to go have a good time and you can't find a place to sit. But trivia is free. And I really want to win this plaque one more time because I'm thinking, you know, after my 10th year here, might be a good time to hang it up and retire. And I'm trying to go out on top. So I'm trying to see if you guys have any advice to help me get my audience re engaged and actually voting for us again. I tell them, you know, it's the most important election of their lifetime every year. It doesn't seem to stick.

[B]

Doesn't seem to matter.

[A]

This is an interesting one.

[B]

Yeah, it's a bit of a quant. Well, first of all, I don't know. How do you feel about bar trivia, Jake? Do you like it?

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah. To me, it's, like, time to move to another bar.

[A]

I'm the same way with karaoke.

[B]

Same with karaoke. I'm the same with stand up.

[A]

Same with stand up.

[B]

If I'm in a bar, anyone who's gonna set up a speaker to distract, I'm like, no. Yeah, Out.

[A]

So I just had it the other night a couple weeks ago, I was out with some friends. We went to a bar, and. Perfect little bar. And then all of a sudden, I saw some commotion in a corner.

[B]

The commotion's the worst.

[A]

And I went like, what's going on? And they go like, oh, we start karaoke at 10pm I literally went like, let's go.

[B]

Oh, my God. It is. It is bad.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Trivia is probably the least egregious, but still, it's over. But anyway, Joe.

[A]

But I don't love it.

[B]

I don't either. We're on your side here. So the issue that I find right away is the one that pointed out, which is that if people aren't going to vote for it because they don't want the bar to get any more crowded. I mean, it kind of feels like you either need to bring in a new audience or maybe you need to, like, start capping the number on how many people can come in. Is it indoor or outdoor? Well, how much space do you have?

[D]

It's indoor, and it's like a long, narrow bar. So you could probably fit about 85 people in the bar. There's like a couple of booths and a couple of hive, three tops. And then mostly just bar space.

[B]

Are you filling? Oh, go ahead.

[A]

No, you go ahead, Garf.

[B]

Are you filling it? 85 people are there for trivia?

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

The whole bar fills up for trivia every week. Pretty much take over for two hours, and then they leave.

[A]

But why are you stopping this?

[D]

Why am I stopping it?

[A]

You said this is going to be your last year.

[D]

Oh, well, I mean, it's 10 years I'm like 40. At some point, I think I should probably stop going to a bar each week.

[B]

And it's not basketball.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

Oh, I got you. So you do you just host it?

[D]

Yeah, I just host it.

[A]

That's right. Do you own the bar at all?

[D]

No, I'm. I. I do get paid a little bit from the bar owners.

[B]

This is just.

[D]

I do, like, write the quiz, but.

[A]

Now I'm understanding otherwise.

[D]

I'm not like the bar employee. I'm just kind of.

[A]

I gotcha. So you're. There's no upside for you. You just like to do this hobby. You started doing it and now it's become a thing. And you would like one final victory because I was gonna say you could offer. I thought you were the owner of the bar, but you're not. So you're just gonna. You want to end on top, but you don't want to tell them you want to end on top because. Because of why?

[C]

Right?

[D]

I don't want to. Well, I don't wanna. I'm okay with maybe announcing some sort of like, hey, I'm leaving after this year because I would like to find someone else to take over. That's kind of how I got into it in the first place, too.

[A]

Well, this could be our answer, Joseph.

[B]

Yeah, that's a. Yeah.

[D]

So I wonder.

[A]

Hey, Joe, I mean, what if we do Joe's final year, the farewell tour, the farewell tell as well as you do. We're looking for my replacement. Very similar to on this show, how we've been doing the Friendship Games. You got to figure out who is going to take over the slot. But the only way to really do it is you need to win this year and then they need to win next year. And now it's sealed.

[B]

Wait, what do you mean they need to win this year?

[A]

You got to get everybody to vote so that you go out on top of. And then you need the new person to really step it up their season one so that the dynasty continues. So you win with one head coach and then Jimmy, who is the old Cowboys coach?

[B]

Jimmy Johnson to.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Barry Switzer.

[A]

Yes. But Switzer needs to win in his first year.

[B]

Yes. Yes. He's inheriting a good squad.

[A]

And so you've got to win now. The team's going to fall apart in three years.

[B]

It's not Joe's problem.

[A]

That's not our. That's not our problem. But that's a way to get a big vote and to get a big pass off.

[B]

I'm kind Of. I'm. I was thinking something along those lines. This is what I would say. Maybe. What. What if you. To that point, you're trying to find your Barry Switzer this season? So what if you set up a website through Squarespace? Right?

[A]

Way to hit a sponsor, baby boy.

[B]

I'm just talk. We're just talking. I'm not even hitting a sponsor. I'm just saying they're the best. I mean, what do you want from me? Squarespace is the best place to.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[B]

Sorry. So sorry. Sorry, sorry, Jake. And. And so what if you, like, set up a website? I like me. So what if you. What if you set up a website where, like, people, if they attend trivia, can go there and nominate who the next trivia coach will be? And on the website, either. How you. I don't. I'm not going to pretend I know too much about this, but either there's a question or a link right next to that that takes you to the voting for Trivia of the year. So you're driving people to the website and then while they're there nominating, you also ask them to vote for this as the best bar trivia.

[A]

You know what I'm really thinking? This. This goes into my brother's.

[B]

I was going to say this is perfect. Poll.

[A]

The poll. Because we gotta get. Here's what we need to do. We gotta get everybody in your group vote. Here's. Here's how we could maybe do it. Joe, I'm talking to my brother. He's created an app called we need to pick for the Show. And I might just connect him with you because here's what I think we could do. We could get everybody to vote on who should be your replacement. But now once everybody's into the world of voting, then you could say, hey, guys, I need one more favor. Could you vote for this? I'd like to go out on top. So everybody's engaged in the voting, in the passion of who's next.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then of course, they go, this has been a decade of success.

[B]

I think it's something like that. I also, what I would do is I like, I feel like if you just kind of put those two ideas in the same space, people are going, people are nominating there. And then as we get closer to the end of the year, people can go there to vote. You know, that's how we could maybe start it. Jake, what we could maybe do is we could set up. He sets up a squarespace. That's where people go to nominate. Also Right there we have a link. Then when your brother's ready to go with the poll stuff, towards the end, when Joe's last year is kind of running down, that's when he's driving people to the app to vote. So he already has the five names of the realistic people who are inheriting that system. And then on top of that, I think you really got to lean into the farewell tour stuff. I would get a shirt that says Joe's farewell Tour. Go vote for my last year's best trivia at this link or some shit like that. Put a QR code on your shirt that people can go right where they need to go to vote for you.

[A]

As far trivia, Joe, what are you feeling here, babe?

[D]

I think I like it. I think, I think playing on the retirement heartstrings might be the last way to get all of these regulars to vote again. And even, I mean a lot of them tell me they do, but sometimes we're up against, you know, big name trivias as it were. Just, you know, it's at like from brewery, which is huge in the area. So just by name recognition they're probably going to get more votes. So if we, we got to go, I think balls to the wall with the campaign in order to make it work.

[A]

By the way, I love what you just said there, Joe, about a campaign.

[B]

Yeah, I do too, because this is.

[A]

David versus Goliath this year. The little engine that could and you're going off into the sunset. I think it's a full campaign and I think the website, which I really like that Gareth is pitching, I think the shirts. But it's all can this little trivia game in this little 85 seater, can we win? Can we take back our glory? Or is it too late for us? Are we just a bunch of geeks in a bar in Milwaukee?

[B]

I like it. I think I, I'm think maybe get a banner that like really let lean into campaign mode and campaign strategy and buttons.

[A]

Buttons with the QR code.

[B]

With the QR code on it. I would lean into that. You can get that. So just get a QR code that can be put on buttons on shirts.

[A]

Here's another thing you could do during the night, Joe of trivia. You take a three minute break in the middle where you ask everybody and they don't even know what they're doing to please take out their phones. This is something very special we're doing. Please take out your phones. Everyone takes out their phones. Okay, you guys got 45 seconds. Okay, now take out now, put in this thing. Then they go, now, now vote for us as number one. And that they're in the trivia mode. They're doing what they're told. It's the version, as Simon says. So you get everybody. You said they could vote five or six times.

[D]

Yeah. They have to vote for five or six things in order for one vote to count.

[A]

Hate that.

[B]

Hate that.

[D]

I'm not a fan of it either.

[B]

But it's just going to be part of the strategy. I mean, it's just going to be locked into your campaign mode. I mean, it just has to be, you know, so you send people. The QR code should send people right to where they need to go. And the only thing you care about is that they vote for you. But just be very clear, there's five or six other things you need to do. I think if you have merch, if you can lean into that a little bit, you could hand around a tip bucket at bar trivia and say you're in campaign mode. So if anyone wants to tip a little bit extra so that you guys can sort of afford stuff for your small campaign. And I think Jake's right about the David and Goliath part of it. You should be, like, impassioned on that side of it. And I would. Is it crazy for him to go to a couple other trivia nights and try to hand out some.

[A]

No, it isn't crazy. But you know what else isn't crazy, Joe? To go to those nights and make the nights worse, Ask questions at the wrong time, Sabotage, stink bombs.

[B]

I mean, the vibe. How crazy do you want to get? These are just options. But I like something like that, too. I remember when I was used to hand out flyers after other people's shows in clubs where I would be, like, doing a set a couple nights later. And it was super weird. But there's. You could just make little flyers, hand them out after other bar trivias, you know?

[A]

Is that in bad form to do that?

[B]

I don't know. It's kind of weird. It's sad. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, I used to stand. I used to stand in Times Square and handout flyers.

[B]

Yeah, but it was like, I would go to, like, the punch line, like when I was first, like, headlining, and I would. I would wait for someone to be leaving and then I had my little weird flyer. It was. I mean, it was not a good look.

[A]

I understand.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But. But something like that, I mean, I think all those things. And again, leaning into that, like, last time part of it. And I. You know what you could also do on Trivia Night before you take a break? You could be like, all right, our last question then. We're going to take a three minute break. This is the best bar trivia in Milwaukee. A. This one. That's it. Go scan the QR code. Right now, we're handing them around, you know, like. I don't know, just really push it, lean into it. It's like the last year Jordan was playing before he came back.

[A]

What do you think, Joe? Where are you at? We've given you a bunch of roads here.

[D]

You know, I think this is good. I think what I needed, maybe personally, was just a push to also re engage myself for a campaign for voting because I'm a big fan of trivia. I used to go all the time before I started hosting, and I think all of them are fun and all.

[C]

Of them are good, but I think.

[D]

Ours is the best. And since I wholeheartedly believe that, I think leaning into getting real kitschy with campaign stuff. Hats, buttons, flyers, going to other trivias, and making my team name vote for Blackbird Bar Trivia instead of this one.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

The host has to read it out.

[B]

And that's why if you're, like, handing out stuff, like you're telling people to, like, go and.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Garrett, Daniel, this is Dan. We met.

[B]

I know, it's an honor.

[A]

What's been in my ears for so long? You're jumping through the screen.

[B]

Wow. Sorry. Your brother said to me on this call, boy, you really find yourself funny, don't you?

[A]

No, I said you. I said. No, I said, you really crack you up.

[B]

I like me like, you know what the vibe is? John Candy, Steve Martin and planes, trains. Oh.

[A]

My brother and I used to do a bit where when my mom would be tired of our jokes, we would go, I crack you up. And we would pretend to literally crack apart. So I'd be like, I'm cracking myself up.

[C]

Cracking.

[A]

You just stare at us with hatred.

[B]

That true? That tracks.

[A]

Hey, Joe. This is my brother, Dan.

[D]

Hi, Dan.

[A]

Hey, what's up, Joe?

[D]

Just chilling at work on lunch. How's it going over there?

[B]

Nice lunch.

[A]

What do you do for a living, Joe?

[D]

I do operations management for a company that makes touch screens.

[A]

Damn right. You're a Milwaukee guy. Yeah, Yeah, I could tell. Hey, Dan, Dan, Dan. Where were you? Hold on, he's. Where was your bachelor party, Dan? In the greatest city in the world. Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

[B]

That's my.

[A]

And what did you have 12 men drink at the bar? A sea breeze. Why wouldn't I? You made us all get sea breezes. And Dan, what happened when you and me started playing paintball? Well, you are maybe not in as great shape as you are these days. And after you took a hard fall, I shot that fat ass on the ground directly with a lot of, like, vindictiveness and like, the triumph of victory. And it hurt. I could tell it hurt.

[B]

What was his attitude when he got back up?

[A]

He was putting a good face forward. He's like, hey, I'm here to rally, but this is not how I want to be spending my Saturday afternoon. But look, got a great attitude about it. Guys, I'm my brother's best man. I'm in. I had purple ankle and while I was down with a legit injury, gear, like, legit took me weeks. My brother shot me so many times.

[B]

On the ground, they, man, I haven't been hit in a while, but, man, they are. They hurt and that like dead on, like being an shot. Those are brutal.

[A]

While your brother's cry, laughing.

[B]

Yeah. Cry laughing.

[A]

I can still see that fat ass just hit the ground. It's just like, oh, you're exposed.

[C]

Bam. Bam.

[B]

With a legit injury. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Unfortunately, I agree with his decision. It is a very funny moment.

[B]

The right decision.

[A]

But, Dan, here's where we're at. Joe runs a trivia and there's. This is in two parts. One, he's trying to win this contest to become to get the award on his final year, which does not apply to you. But two, he's looking for who's going to take over next for him because we think that could connect to his other thing if we get people voted on that. So how close are we with. We need to pick for you and Joe to get in touch where Joe could tell everybody at the bar and this could get people in the mode of voting where he's going to announce this is his last year.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

He's got a website where people could go to and vote. And then on top of that, while he's doing that, he's going to start campaigning for everybody to vote for him in this other election. So he wins on top got. And so we're thinking like, there's. How many contenders can take over for like five. Joe, how many. How many potential people could take over for you? Who do you think?

[D]

I mean, it's really about gauging interest so whoever you can get on the line. So I, I would imagine if we really push hard, I could find two to three people interested in becoming the new host.

[B]

Okay, hold on. I got an idea.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What if we do this? What if Joe starts to gather these names and we do a friendship style dating game thing with the new host and drive people to the to Dan to vote on that. And we do that in Milwaukee as well so that we can kind of. And again, I mean, it's all to really just drive people to the idea of going to a link to go vote for his bar trivia on another site.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

But that might be a way to drum up some of that business.

[A]

But what do you mean, like, we go to Milwaukee?

[B]

No, no, we just have him on the show with, like, four contestants.

[C]

Ooh.

[B]

We, we don't pick at all. We're just kind of like hosting a debate night.

[A]

That's exactly right.

[B]

We drive them to the Dan app, they vote there again. We have that link there. It's just another way to, another way.

[A]

To get people in that community engaged. And then we ask everybody on each one, please, yes, guys, let's go out on top. And at the same time, Joe, you're making the shirts, you're making the buttons. Joe, is that something you want to do? You want to see if any of these guys would come back on and we could be part of the process of seeing if we could get your replacement.

[D]

This sounds pretty hardcore. It sounds pretty awesome.

[A]

Good hardcore.

[D]

Yeah, like, good hardcore.

[C]

Joe, when is there's like time parameters around the voting for best trivia? Is there time parameters around finding your replacement? Yeah.

[D]

So the nomination campaign for writing in bars to nominate, I think is like, usually September, October, and I'm not too worried about that. We always get nominated for the final round of voting, and then the final round between like five, four or five bars runs, I think after Thanksgiving to the end of the year. And then the winner is announced. Yeah, and then the winner is announced in early January.

[A]

It's like a presidential election.

[B]

This is big.

[A]

Yeah, this is.

[B]

We need to do door to door.

[C]

Are we aiming to find your replacement right around the same time as you find out if you win this award or not? Like a twofer.

[D]

I, I, my, my goal would be to step away right after the win announced in January so that I can still go to the party for free.

[B]

And I'll tell you, wow, listen to this guy. He's lucky. Awesome, awesome. Danny J. Approves. I'll also do you one solid, Joe. When I'm there, I think I'm there twice before. Then you could meet up with me and I'll Like, I'll mention it. And we can get people trying to snag like some QR codes or scan QR codes and stuff like that to help.

[A]

Great idea.

[B]

A little bit, too.

[D]

Oh, man, that sounds awesome.

[C]

Cool.

[D]

That's awesome. Thanks.

[A]

So I think, Joe, this is the beginning of a relationship that's going to end in January for all of us. We're probably going to do a couple of follow ups. We're going to bring some people on. You got to do some work for us, Joe, and connect to the people. Connect with Natalie. We're going to get you. When the time is right. We're going to have people voting on. We need to pick. Gareth is going to do some shows and try to get everybody, you know, be funny Gareth in the middle of the show. If you stop it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You have an image of a QR code and everybody needs to vote before you tell your next joke.

[B]

Well, I'm going to keep in mind that. That some people there are probably like, who's this asshole? So I might stop. But what I could do is, like, we can figure out a way to really incorporate it.

[A]

Like, that's a really fun bit from the show.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

Then you. Even if you get a third of the people who vote, it's huge.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Yep.

[A]

David and Goliath, the whole thing.

[B]

Yep. I can even bring him on stage to make a quick speech. That's maybe the way to do it.

[A]

That's the way to do it.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

All right, well, hey, Joe, are you into that?

[D]

I am good at talking in a microphone in front of 80 people.

[B]

So that's about how many are gonna probably turn out to some of these Milwaukee shows, Joe, if I'm being quite honest, my hometown. Yeah, no, it's fine. I just.

[A]

They don't turn up.

[B]

You're right. Thank you.

[A]

Get ready for 50,000 people here, Joe. You're going five serve.

[B]

Yeah. We're gonna have a Greenland.

[A]

You're gonna be doing it where the Milwaukee Bucks play. Baby boy Danny J. Thanks for hopping on.

[B]

Thank you, dad.

[A]

Thank you, guys. We're gonna connect you with Joe at some point. Yeah, can't wait. We're ready.

[B]

All right, get to work, Jo.

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[C]

Hello.

[B]

Hi. Welcome to the show.

[C]

Hi.

[B]

Hello. Yeah. Who are you? Where are you calling from?

[C]

My name is Sophie and I'm calling from Detroit, Michigan.

[A]

I know you, Sophie. It's a ticket, Scooby. Oh, how you doing, self?

[C]

You know, I've been better. It's just one of those days.

[A]

What is happening? So wait, how do we cheer you up?

[B]

And let's. Let's bring people up to speed because, Sophie, you've been our white whale a little bit. So, Sophie, you. What was your ex's name again? Sorry, do you remember Aaron? Well, I meant Jake.

[C]

I figured you would.

[B]

Sophie. Aaron, you guys were together. You.

[A]

How about this? Sophie, will you. Oh, we have Aaron in the waiting room too. I just saw that. Oh, so, Sophie, did you know that?

[C]

Not really. I thought it was just going to be a little talk with us.

[A]

So, Sophie, first of all, are you okay with that?

[C]

I'm okay with it. Why not?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

We don't have to bring her in. We told Aaron. It's up to you. Sophie. That's okay. Hey, bring it on.

[B]

Let's talk to Sophie for a minute.

[A]

And then we could also do individually. Yeah, what do you prefer here, Sophie?

[C]

You know, let's. Let's bring her on. Let's. Let's do this.

[A]

Okay. Because what. If you remember, the original problem was you Guys broke up. And you had Detroit lion tickets. Yes, yes. And season tickets. And when you broke up, you wanted the tickets. And then we said, let's figure out. We were going to do a singing competition, and whoever had the better voice got the tickets. Then you sang and realistically, Gareth Beacha. But I personally didn't feel comfortable with that.

[B]

I beat Aaron.

[C]

Yeah. I. I didn't even show up.

[A]

Oh, wait. I'm all turned around.

[B]

Yeah. Sophie's. Sophie's our white whale. Sophie's not been on the show.

[A]

Okay. Sophie.

[B]

So we had. So Aaron and I competed because, Sophie, you got cold feet or you didn't want. I got all turned around.

[A]

First of all, good to meet you.

[C]

Nice to meet you. Yes. It's a pleasure.

[A]

I. I thought I got screwed up. Okay, so what happened on the day of. We had freaking Judd Apatow. You killed us.

[B]

40 year old virgin.

[A]

You killed us. By the way, it was a real miss of an ep. It was our first miss. Afterwards, Gareth and I were like, pretty big miss when we had old Juddy Apatow.

[C]

Shit. I know. I really missed out on that. I know. I. You know, to be honest, the day. It's just. I had a. Anxiety.

[B]

Respect and.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Just kind of dipped, by the way.

[C]

Respect.

[B]

We. We selfishly were upset that. I completely understand the bail as well, but so I would bail. So Aaron and I had a singing competition to win the tickets because Jake and I tried to make something out of the call and. And Judd handled it great. We couldn't get you on. We've been trying to get you on.

[A]

Yeah, but then. But hold on. But before. So then Aaron's saying. And realistically, Gareth beat her.

[B]

Did you hear that? All right. I just want to make sure.

[A]

But you know, Sophie, like, she. It was off.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Aaron. Yep. She. She definitely lost.

[A]

She lost. And the problem was because you weren't on. We. If. If Judd wasn't on, if it was just Gareth and I, I probably would have been meaner.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I was like, I'm. I don't know. He came onto our show. I'm trying to have a good ending. I didn't feel comfortable having her lose, but, man, she made it hard on us.

[C]

Yeah. It was a sticky situation. I get it.

[A]

And then in the end, we gave her the tickets, but I didn't feel right about it. And then supposedly you. You were fine with it. You were cool. But then your group of friends was like, she doesn't deserve the tickets.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So walk us through what happened.

[C]

So I was fine with it at first. And then all of a sudden, a bunch of her mutual friends are just like, wait a second. Like, you really did listen to her, right? Because she definitely didn't win. She tried. She tried and I didn't even show up.

[A]

Which is true.

[B]

That's what the. The flag is. But yes, it's true. She didn't win. But she didn't.

[C]

Right, Right.

[B]

She was there.

[A]

But we also. Gareth, I did not expect you to have a V. Angel for the first time.

[B]

Hey. I don't know what came out of me.

[A]

I don't know what came out of you either.

[B]

Who knows what happened.

[A]

All of a sudden it was beautiful. It was beautiful. I thought it was going to be a joke. And all of a sudden I look at a little cherub singing his heart out.

[B]

I got front of Judd.

[A]

Oh, I know why he was auditioning.

[B]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I could see that happening.

[A]

40 year old virgin who's a singer.

[B]

35 year old virgin.

[A]

All right, so you. Then your friends said, well, hold on. This is kind of dog. She didn't win and what were you thinking?

[C]

And I. They kind of riled me up, you know, they got my blood boiling a little bit. All in fun, though, like, there is no, you know, there weren't any super hurt feelings. Maybe a little bit for Marin. But I mean, she did lose. But. Yeah, so they kind of riled me up and then I reached out to her and I was just like, yo. You know, like the agreement was if you lose, we aren't. We're not doing the money thing. I know we got a lot of backlash on that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

But it was like all or nothing. All or nothing.

[A]

Interested.

[B]

It's such a strange little web we've caught ourselves in.

[A]

Yeah. But I hear where you're coming from. So I will say. I will say this though, and we will get into all of this and then you guys are going to make your decision. I do think the person who gets the ticket has to pay for the tickets. Is that insane? Well, talk to me about that.

[C]

Yeah, we. We could. It's just right before. It's just like, hey, we're all in or nothing. That's it.

[A]

But she bought the tickets.

[C]

She did.

[A]

It's not. So it's not all or nothing because she's all. You're nothing. Yeah.

[B]

You getting three season tickets is a strange.

[A]

But by the way, you getting tickets might be the end of this, but I. I don't think she loses the money too.

[B]

Yeah, it seems a Bit strange.

[A]

What do you. What do you think of that?

[C]

I think that's fine.

[A]

Okay. But I do think there's a world where you still get the tickets. Now, let me ask you this. Do you want the tickets still?

[C]

I would love the ticket still.

[A]

Okay. Let me ask you this. And this is without her on it. And if you want, we can have this scratched from the episode. Nat, I'm a man of my word. Is there any world where you would go to the games with her?

[C]

Oh, we could. I mean, it depends on where we're at, if we're still talking, so, I mean, I could see going to a game with her.

[A]

I got you. Okay.

[B]

Where are you at right now? Where. Where do things stand now as far as you guys communicating?

[C]

I mean, we have the same group of friends, and so, I mean, I haven't seen her in a little bit, but we. We run into each other here and there just because we have the same friends.

[A]

Let me ask you a quick question. It's neither here nor there. What happened between you two kids? Because I gotta tell you, when I started talking to you, I thought it was her. There's a similarity with. On her last call, when she called in for the Patreon 200 night, I go, how you doing? She was like, it had been better, not crazy. When you started today. I go, how you doing? You go like this. Not great. That's why I said, what can we do to cheer you up? I felt like I'd been on this call. There's a similar thing between you two ladies, no.

[C]

Yeah. So what happened? I mean, it was like four years back and forth, back and forth, and. Yeah. And, you know, we just, like. We're great friends, but there's other people out there for both of us, so.

[A]

Okay, I got you. So in the end, it's a very. It's better to not be together, but to be friends.

[C]

Correct. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Definitely.

[A]

I'll stop playing matchmaker.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

That's cute.

[A]

I saw this. I saw a version of us playing Parent Trap.

[C]

Oh. Bringing us back together, getting a game.

[A]

Together, sipping on a beer, cheering on the Bears over the Lions. And all of a sudden, I don't know.

[C]

Oh. Then the Kiss Cam comes on.

[A]

The Kiss camp. Now we're talking. And all of a sudden you go like, hey, that was fun. She goes, yeah. And then she goes like, I'll see you next Sunday. And she goes, yeah, when we play the Titans, let's text about it. And all of a sudden you go, who would I rather watch a game with than this Right. Crazy old gal I've been dancing with.

[B]

For Daniels like a Judd Apatow movie.

[A]

Is there a curly haired boy who sings in it?

[B]

Why? Is there a little lad who sings at the half?

[A]

And if so, how does it sou.

[C]

I was a little sad I missed out on meeting him. I will say that. Well, that would have been really cool.

[B]

Yeah. No, it would have really helped everybody.

[A]

It's fine. It's fine.

[B]

Everybody would have been really helped out by that.

[A]

But also, let's be honest. Anxiety is a real thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And when you're not being paid, and it's with the ex, I truly have zero judgment. The amount of I have bailed on in my life has been spectacular.

[B]

Well, this is also. This is extreme.

[A]

I'm also a big believer. And I hate this idea that people go, like, never quit. Sometimes it's fine to quit.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But this.

[A]

So every once in a while, to go, I'm gonna fold is okay. This idea of never quit. You know what happens to gamblers who do that? They go broke. You gotta know when to fold. You gotta know when to walk away. The night that day wasn't right for you with Judd. And it's fine because we got this.

[B]

Yeah. So we are going to make up for it. So. Well, Sophie, if we. Let's say we do bring Aaron into this call. Are you okay with that? Because maybe we can work out some of the pitching in front of her a little.

[A]

I think we have to figure out a competition.

[C]

Oh, yeah, let's do a competition. We're both super competitive.

[A]

I think we have to figure out today who gets the tickets.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I will say before she comes on, if you get the tickets, I think you have to pay for your tickets.

[B]

I agree.

[C]

I will do that.

[B]

I think that's okay.

[C]

I will do that. I get it. I was being kind of a little bitch about it, but. Yeah.

[A]

But I think. But then it's. Then it's fair because she still loses the tickets. But you could also sell them. You're allowed. They're yours.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You could say, like, big games coming up. I'm selling these tickets. They're your tickets. Okay. So we are just competing for who gets the tickets.

[B]

We could do a Detroit Lions quiz contest.

[A]

Well, let's do this. Let's bring Aaron on.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And then we'll see what happens. So, Sylvie, can we mute you for a little bit?

[C]

Yes, absolutely.

[A]

Thanks. And also good to meet you. Welcome to the show.

[B]

Yes. Thanks for doing this.

[C]

Thank you so much. Guys, I'm happy to be here.

[A]

We're happy to have you.

[C]

Okay. Here comes Aaron.

[D]

Aaron.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

What's up, big dog?

[C]

How's it going?

[B]

Hi. Welcome back.

[A]

We were just chatting with Sophie.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

So Sophie has agreed that whoever wins the tickets should pay for them.

[C]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

She's also totally open to being friends. She's got a good vibe. She's like. I got a little bit of anxiety. That's why I bailed. There was no drama. She's here now and she's willing to create a competition for the tickets. But whoever wins them also pays for them. But they're their tickets then.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Are you going back to the original call? Willing to throw it all on the table and play again?

[C]

It depends on what the competition is.

[A]

I think that's right. But you guys are. How about this? You're both allowed. We keep pitching until you both agree.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Are you into that?

[C]

Yeah. That's fair.

[A]

Natak. We bring Sophie back in the room.

[C]

She is here.

[A]

Sophie. Aaron. Everybody's here. How are. How we doing?

[C]

Hello. Hi. Aaron. Hi.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

This moment's not about you. That's. That's shocking.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Shocking that you tried to get part of that.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I, I, I loved the tent. I, like, wanted to be part of it.

[A]

You weren't in it. They were.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. No, I agree. My instincts. Way off. Go ahead.

[A]

Insane.

[B]

Nuts. Nuts.

[A]

Hi. And then Gareth goes.

[C]

Hi.

[A]

I guess.

[B]

Crazy. Yeah, I know.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

One about me in any way.

[C]

And.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know what you just.

[A]

You were for a second.

[B]

I know you and it felt great. You. Let me know if you drive for a second. Jake, I'm here. Drive for a second.

[A]

You're emotional because of that high.

[B]

Yeah. No, there's a lot going on. My hands are numb. I don't feel my.

[A]

Why did you step out of this love story? What happened?

[B]

Well, it just felt like maybe it wasn't time for a man to be involved, I guess. I don't know. And maybe I'm crazy. Soviet. Aaron, Call me crazy.

[C]

Spot on. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Well, you don't need to put it.

[A]

I think there's spot on, too. And I will say I think everyone agrees you're crazy.

[B]

Yep. I agree. Just let's all say.

[C]

Hey.

[B]

Let's all just say we all kind of lost our heads back there a little bit, and let's just move forward. I don't know what the hell we were all doing.

[A]

Take away. We all.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

No, you're being really weird.

[B]

Agreed. It's not getting better. I don't know what's going. I am melting down.

[A]

You are melting.

[B]

It's a meltdown.

[A]

So why don't you drive of the 200th?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you there? Have you heard of a lot?

[B]

All right, let's just.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. So anyway, Sophie and Aaron, go ahead.

[A]

So, Sophie, this is what we just talked about Aaron about, and she said something that we like. First of all, everybody has agreed whoever wins the tickets in the competition we create right now gets the tickets and pays for the confident tickets. But Sophie, Aaron said she is willing to play if you both agree to the game before doing it. So when Garrett said trivia, you're allowed to say pass, but we'll find a competition that you both go. I'm willing to play for those stakes. Does that sound fair to both of you?

[C]

You. Yes, there.

[A]

Do you guys want the audience to vote on the winner?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

That's what we should do. We should do what we need to pick. It shouldn't be us.

[B]

They can both play their case.

[A]

So that's a great idea. Question for you guys. Yeah, this is for Aaron and Sophie. Do you guys each want a minute to plead your case, or do you want to do a song now? It doesn't have to just be the two of these. Do you want to do a singing competition? Do you want to do a scat competition?

[C]

A what competition?

[A]

Scat.

[C]

I don't even know what that is.

[B]

Jazz makeup.

[C]

I. I didn't know a Broadway song. You think I'm going to know scat?

[A]

How about improvised spoken word poetry?

[C]

Oh, my God. These ideas are getting worse. Okay. Hey, Singing. I didn't get to sing.

[B]

You didn't show up.

[C]

I feel like you did enough. Well, if that's all we can agree on, I'll do it. But I also don't want people to hear more of me singing. Okay, we'll do something else. Let's do that then. We'll do something else. I agree. Okay. You want to do a scat. I mean, that's actually worse. I'd rather sing than Aaron.

[B]

Sophie, hold on a second.

[A]

Is there a saw? Go ahead, Gareth.

[B]

Well, I mean, I just. I just. As a. As a sideline reporter at this game, I mean, the two of them, they just worked themselves out of a problem with great respect and communication.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

Just seems like a really important thing in a relationship. Go ahead, Jake. I'll just be over here.

[A]

I will say I think you guys communicate well.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

Yeah, there's been good and bad times.

[A]

Yeah. But right now seems to be a good time.

[C]

Yeah. Great. Yeah, I agree.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Gareth and I don't communicate that well. We're mean to each other.

[C]

Well, all out of love.

[A]

It's funny, though. We're meaner to Steve, I think.

[B]

Well, I. Soon enough. But we get the calendars.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. So, I mean, what do you think? I mean, would you rat? Like, we have. We have a website where people can pick who they would like.

[A]

It's literally built for this.

[B]

So we. You could both plead your case. Or sing.

[A]

Gareth, we were getting close, so.

[B]

Or sing.

[A]

Now, first, I'll say I'll sing, but.

[C]

As long as it's a song that I know. Please.

[A]

Okay, let's do this. Sophie, I'm just talking to you directly. Would you. What would you like to do as a competition?

[C]

I mean, I'm down to sing. I think it's pretty easy.

[A]

Okay. And then would you want to pick your own song?

[C]

I will sing whatever song Aaron sings.

[B]

Same song.

[A]

Okay. Aaron.

[C]

Yep. Yeah.

[A]

Would you want to turn this into a singing competition? You pick the song.

[C]

Yeah. Yes. Let me just. I need to get out of your shot. Of everyone around me. Hold on.

[B]

Where are you right now?

[C]

I'm at work.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, this is.

[C]

I don't need those people. They already heard it. It was enough. I don't need them to hear.

[A]

So then, Aaron, you are, per. Sophie. Picking the tune. But, Sophie, I want to make this fair to you. You're allowed to say pass.

[B]

Well, I also. Jake. I mean. Yeah, we're talking about Detroit. Stevie Wonder, fantastic musician, Detroit based. Maybe we go with a Stevie Wonder song that they probably like.

[A]

What if they pick?

[B]

I agree.

[C]

Again.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're not in the relationship.

[B]

I know.

[A]

You said Madonna.

[C]

Yes, Madonna. Oh, God.

[B]

Wasn't that what we sang last time?

[A]

No, we did Argentina.

[C]

By the way, that song was stuck in my head.

[B]

Well, when you hear an angel cry.

[C]

My dreams for it still is. So we'll never forget that song.

[B]

All right, let's just.

[A]

I got a feeling something's cooking between you gals.

[B]

Hey, Jake, that's not for us to do. Come on, get out of the kitchen.

[A]

I'll see you guys.

[C]

There is. We'll update you now.

[A]

Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a crazy question. Where do the lines in the packers play this Sunday? Are they in Lambo? Yeah. Damn it. Week two. Where?

[C]

By the way, Gareth, if you want the Lions. Packers tickets, we said we would give them to you if you want them.

[B]

It's Interesting.

[A]

Gareth would have to go with one of you.

[B]

Sounds like I'd be making it about myself, but I'm in.

[C]

Love it.

[A]

So what song are we thinking, ladies?

[C]

Oh, God.

[A]

Take a sec.

[B]

Second.

[A]

We're not in a manic rush.

[C]

Yeah. We could do suggestions. We could do Like a Prayer.

[A]

Yes, I got one. Yes. Who is that from?

[C]

I have, like, ltsd. From singing in general. Okay, well, we don't. Okay, we can't be singing. No, I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. Like a bear is the easiest one. You should do that one. Yeah, I can do that one.

[A]

So, Aaron, are you excited to do. Not excited, but are you willing to do Like a Prayer for the tickets?

[C]

Yeah, there's.

[A]

Are you willing to do. But if you don't think you're going to win and don't do it.

[C]

I know, but I can't think of what else we can do. Really.

[A]

Well, that's why you got two pitchmen on the line with you.

[C]

Yeah. We could do something else if you want, but I was getting my vocal cords. No, I'll do it.

[B]

You're.

[C]

You're into it. I'll do it.

[A]

Aaron, do you think you're going to win? Because I know you want these tickets, so I. What I don't want to do is I don't want Charlie Brown to go, I'll never kick a field goal and then go. Go up and miss it and go like, yeah, I'm a fell in a puddle of mud. And then have everybody vote and go, like, maybe give it to Charlie Brown because he tried. Lucy W. I need two.

[C]

I know.

[A]

What would Dan Campbell say to you right now?

[C]

Oh, God. Well, I know I can't sing, so.

[A]

So then you shouldn't sing, because I don't think you're gonna win as a singer.

[C]

I know. That's very true. We've all heard it. We all know it's gonna end up well.

[A]

And I think Sophie's confident because she heard the tape.

[C]

I know.

[A]

She's like, I'm go. So, Aaron, what are you good at?

[C]

Oh, God. A good question.

[A]

We need you to tell us what you think you could win at right now. Is it just at the top of my head, what else besides sing? What else can we do?

[C]

Trivia. Trivia. I would definitely win that for sure. What about trivia in general? Regular trivia. Yeah.

[A]

Well, the only problem with trivia in general is there's no, like, vote. There's no. It is, right?

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, I guess that Way. Then we have.

[A]

I've got a question. Which one of you loves the Lions more?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, definitely.

[A]

Excuse me. Aaron.

[C]

Sorry. Yeah. Aaron.

[A]

So, Sophie, is that true?

[C]

Oh, that's very true.

[A]

So why do you want the tickets?

[C]

Because I'm competitive and we. I want the ticket.

[B]

Why don't. Why don't. Why don't we make this. Why don't we just give them a minute each. They each plea their case as to why they deserve the tickets, and we'll just have people vote.

[A]

I mean, but, Sophie, I feel like that's going to put you at a disadvantage of how we just think.

[C]

Guys, I'll do it.

[A]

Are you singing, Eric?

[C]

Aaron, probably not, but we're already here, so.

[A]

Jesus Christ. I'm taking the tickets, Jake. I'm taking the tickets because here's what we're playing with these two. Sophie won't show up to the first one. And now Aaron's already lost to this.

[B]

Go ahead, Eric.

[C]

It was very dramatic. It was very.

[A]

Ladies, you're pissing me off.

[B]

Jake. Jake, go rub the chimp head. Take a lap. Jesus Christ. I'm very sorry.

[A]

To create stakes.

[C]

I need.

[A]

Aaron. I need you to go. Then you know what? How about we do this? Aaron.

[C]

What?

[A]

You have a minute to convince the audience why you should get the tickets. Sophie, you have a minute to do whatever you want. If you want to sing, okay, you can sing. But you each get one minute to do whatever the you want, and then the audience voice. Is that fair?

[C]

Yeah, I will sing. I'll do it. I'll sing.

[A]

But, Aaron, I don't want you to. Here's what I will not have people vote on, because this is what happened to me last time with you. We did this. Gareth beat you, and what did I do? Just give Aaron tickets.

[C]

But now we've learned from our mistakes.

[B]

So I think, Aaron, if I were you, I would take. I would. I don't think there's anything wrong with making an impassioned plea speech point for why you deserve the tickets. We're gonna let Sophie do the same game, so don't feel pressure to do that. Just. People are gonna vote. They're gonna probably respond to some earnestness or some sincerity or if you're a good singer, whatever. I think it's just in this minute, the way that we can have finality and feel good about it is if you both do whatever. You could sing Like a prayer for 10 seconds and then explain why you love it, why you love the Lions, why your blood runs blue.

[A]

But here's what?

[B]

We're gonna Any of those.

[A]

But here's what we're gonna do, Gareth, while one of you is going, we're gonna mute the other one so the other one can't hear, okay?

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. Great, great. You're going into soundproof booth.

[A]

So now let's do this. I'm gonna hold up a number. One or two, Aaron, you pick. If you pick, that means you're going. If you get it right, you go. You have the option. We're doing a coin flip like in football. So you can either go first or second. Second. So I'm holding up a number right now. Gareth, you see the number I'm holding up correct? Aaron, either one or two?

[C]

Two.

[A]

Okay, I was holding up one. Sophie, do you want to go first or second?

[C]

First.

[A]

Okay, so Aaron, Nat attack. Can you put Aaron in a zone where she cannot hear what Sophie does?

[C]

Yeah. All right, Aaron, I'm gonna put you in the waiting room again.

[B]

See you soon. Good.

[A]

Okay, I'm gonna start a stopwatch. Do we want to say one minute? Do we want.

[B]

Okay, one minute.

[C]

One minute.

[A]

Sophie, do you feel ready? You have time before we start? Is this is pregame. This is about to be kickoff of the biggest game of the season. How you feeling? You ready to go? Where you at?

[C]

I'm. I'm ready to go. I'm gonna bring some singing to the mix. Since I clicked the first time.

[A]

Here's my recommendation to you. Go. Go hard.

[C]

Okay, I'm gonna do it. Okay.

[B]

All right.

[A]

You'Re ready?

[C]

Okay. Oh, my God, I'm so.

[B]

Okay, Got this.

[C]

I am ready.

[A]

So I'm gonna say, three, two, one. And on action, I'm gonna start the clock. We are going to be silent for a minute.

[C]

Okay?

[A]

Three, two, one, action.

[C]

Brought to you by Sophie Sanchez. I'm going to be singing to you like a prayer by Madonna. All right, then. Life is a mystery Everyone must stand alone I hear you call my name and it feels like I haven't sang in, like, five years. When you call my name, it's like a little prayer. I'm down on my knees I wanna take you there in the midnight hour I can feel your power Just like a prayer, you know I'll take you there. I hear your voice it's like an angel sighing. I hear you.

[A]

Did it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, great. You brought the heat there, pal.

[B]

Great voice. No wonder. No wonder Aaron didn't want to do that. You brought the heat from one singer to another. That was really nice.

[C]

The voice of an angel talking to me. Right here.

[A]

Hey, really quick, you two. How about a duet? Like a prayer. Three shots. Three, two, one, action.

[B]

Like a little prayer I'm down on my knees Take you there.

[A]

All right. Great.

[B]

In the midnight hour I can feel.

[A]

Your power Just like, closing his eyes now.

[B]

Oh. Go ahead. Sorry.

[A]

Sorry. So even though that was beautiful, he lost himself. He was Madonna. That does not count for the vote, everybody. So when you go to vote for Sophie, just think about don't cry for me.

[B]

Sorry.

[C]

Beautiful.

[A]

Hey, Sophie, can we get a taste of your don't cry for me?

[C]

Yeah. Oh, God. Okay.

[B]

Aaron's in the other room. Like, it's been three minutes.

[A]

Yeah. Let's just hear it. This is how it would have gone.

[C]

Okay, Ready? Ready? Okay. All right. Don't cry for me, Argentina I'll never let you until my wild days My mad existence Pretty good. I kept my promise.

[A]

Yeah. Look, if you would have shown up on that day, we wouldn't be doing a followup.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

I know. And I'm not done.

[A]

But now, Sophie, I gotta tell you, Aaron's got a minute now. She doesn't have to sing. She could take it from you. And I'm telling you, the audience is going to vote. We're going to set a time. We're going to bring you guys back on to reveal the vote. So we will set up a page. We need to vote. We need to pick dot com. Probably Lions tickets, but we'll figure that out. Nobody is going to know the results until the call with each other, but this sticks. So I will tell you this. You killed it.

[B]

Great.

[A]

You should feel very confident.

[D]

It.

[A]

That's a really. That's a hard one to beat.

[C]

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

[A]

So don't leave yet. We're gonna put you on the same thing we did with Aaron and let Aaron have her moment. Then we'll bring you guys both on.

[C]

Okay. Perfect.

[B]

Good job.

[C]

Okay. Penning you in the waiting room.

[A]

Our show's becoming a real competition show.

[B]

This one especially.

[A]

But, I mean, we got the pickleball match.

[B]

Well, that's because we need to pay. We really now. We have a place. We have a place. Place. We have a. We have. It's the new pigly and Mo Pete.

[A]

No, don't say that, because then everyone's going to hate it.

[B]

No, no, I mean, it's.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's helpful. It's a helpful pig.

[A]

It's fun. Okay. Aaron, are you here?

[C]

I'm here.

[A]

Okay. So you have a minute to do whatever you want to do. Do you know what you're going to do?

[C]

I probably should have been thinking about that.

[A]

Let's take a little bit of time, I guess.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

This is a big moment.

[C]

Oh, God.

[A]

You want some notes? You want to discuss Where. Where are you. Where your un.

[C]

How hard do. How hard do I have to try? How hard, like, did she.

[A]

You have to try. She. She brought some heat.

[C]

Oh, God.

[A]

She didn't go halfway.

[B]

But again.

[A]

But I'll tell you this. If she came the day on Judd and did what she just did.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Wouldn't even matter. We wouldn't be. You have more of a shot now than you would have then.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I would say speak from the heart.

[C]

Start.

[B]

Sincerity will play, you know? Do you want to.

[A]

What Gareth is saying? Oh, it's going to be. We need to pick.com/lions tickets. Natalie, way to make. Or Jesse, way to make it fast. So do you want to talk your strategy? This is the Lions. We're in the locker room. You're not. You're OC and your head coach right now.

[C]

I mean, I don't have a strategy, so I don't know.

[A]

So this is what we're talking about. We can no longer say I don't have a strategy.

[C]

I know.

[A]

We're forming the strategy right now. That's what this is.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

So the. I can't do it. I'm gonna lose. You don't show up to the match if you think you're gonna lose.

[C]

No, you're. That's right. That's fair.

[A]

So do you want to sing? I'm gonna tell you she's got a beautiful voice, so if you sing, you're only gonna win with passion.

[C]

Okay, well, I'm not gonna sing them. What did she sing? Out of curiosity?

[A]

We can't tell you that.

[B]

The rules. The rules dictate. We're unable to tell you.

[A]

It's not fair to her.

[C]

I didn't. I wasn't aware there were rules.

[A]

My nickname is Rulebook, for God's sake.

[B]

Yeah. There's always rules.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

They're all like. Yeah, sometimes they. Sometimes they get peeled back real quick if you're like. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah, they change.

[C]

Hard to keep up with.

[A]

Try falling asleep at night.

[C]

I. I don't know how he do it. It doesn't.

[A]

So.

[C]

Okay. Well, I guess since I'm not going to sing. Do I just. I guess I'll just give my plea.

[A]

Because I give away my. I guesses. And you have a minute? Do you want. Here's a Question to you. Do you want the Lions tickets?

[C]

I do.

[A]

Or do you not care? Because if you don't care, let's just fold and give them to Sophie.

[C]

But that's the. It's the other way around, though.

[B]

Like, that's what I. And I would include that into your plea as well as. Let's not forget, Aaron, you showed up the first time. Time. You laid it all on the line. You wouldn't feel. You were saying you didn't feel comfortable doing it. You went out of your comfort zone. You're the Lions fan. Look, sure, she's got a lot of bells and whistles with that voice, who cares?

[A]

Don't give her lines, Gareth.

[B]

I'm not. This is not about. No.

[A]

Okay, you're the. You can coach, but. So here's what I'm going to say to you exactly. Yeah, we are. We are going to release this episode and the audience is going to vote. Then we are going to bring everybody on you. And by everybody, I mean you. And selfie all two. And we are going to reveal the winner of the vote. Then it sticks. The winner of that gets the tickets. They pay for them, but the tickets are theirs. Conversations over. So this is for the 2025, 2026 Detroit lion season tickets.

[B]

Favored to come, number one in the division.

[C]

Division.

[A]

Not anymore. With Micah Parsons going to Green Bay.

[B]

Stop it.

[A]

So I'm gonna give you a minute of time. Do you feel ready, Aaron?

[C]

I guess I'm ready as I'll ever be. Yes.

[A]

Take away the. I guess.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

Could you imagine Jared Goff going and a two minute drill, down by six. All right, we're gonna get down there and score. I guess I'm gonna lead the offense.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

You know, you would say as a fan. Get out of here.

[B]

We're fans.

[A]

We're fans. We're at. This is our Lions game for this audience.

[C]

Yeah, but I mean, as a Lion fan, though, I'm used to seeing a lot of, you know, not great people.

[B]

Aaron, this glass is full, not empty.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Are you ready?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Three, two. And by the way, I'm going to tell you when the minutes are up. Three. Hold on, I got to do face ID now. Three, two, one.

[C]

Action. Okay, so I think that I deserve the tickets first off, because I was. My idea to buy the season tickets in the first place. I've been on the wait list for like seven years. I paid the wait list fee, which she did not pay. The account is in my name. So technically the tickets are in my name. I could have just taken them, but I didn't. I was trying to be nice and split them like the plan. Also, I bought a lot of cute outfits for the season that I cannot return because it's past the return window. So I lost all that money if I can't go. That's important to me. Also, I've been a Lions fan, like, my whole life, and she was up until, like, two years ago when they actually started being good. So I feel like that gives me a point in my favor because I actually, like, have watched them my whole life and she has not. Also, last year, when we didn't have season tickets, we did go a couple games. I bought all those tickets out of my pocket, including the playoff game, which is a lot of money. So that was all on me. And I did show up for that first call and humiliated myself for the tickets.

[A]

Okay, we're in a minute.

[B]

I think that was really good.

[A]

I think that was really good, too, Aaron.

[B]

I do okay.

[A]

I truly don't know who's going to win. So let's bring. By the way, Aaron, how do you feel about it?

[C]

Yeah, I feel fine. Better than singing? Yes.

[A]

Great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think you brought up some really good points. I don't know who I would vote for. Let's bring now. Let's bring Sophie back in.

[B]

Good. That was good, though.

[A]

That was great.

[B]

Yeah. From where you were there, and it was very different. You should believe in yourself more. That was great.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

And you went fast. You weren't milking the time.

[A]

That was good, Sophie. All right, is everybody back on?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yes. Oh, yeah.

[A]

So. So, you guys, I want to let you know you did very, very different minutes. Very different.

[B]

Both very good, though.

[A]

Both very good. I have no idea who's going to win. We need everybody to go to. We need to pick.com/lions tickets. Is that correct, Natalie?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Then you either vote for Sophie and let's have Sophie singing or Aaron speech. We will bring you guys back on. It's got to be before week two. That's the first game. We will bring you before the first home game, so we will do this fast.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So are we releasing this on Monday now? Now?

[B]

So under a week? Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I'm going to have to switch it. We weren't going to, but this.

[A]

Okay. And we've already. You already created the page to vote on?

[C]

Yeah. That's active.

[B]

But I just.

[A]

This is huge. Okay. So crazy stuff, guys.

[B]

Well, look, thank you both for showing up. Now the people decide. You both did well.

[A]

So, so good than I sang all.

[C]

That for no reason. Now that makes me feel great.

[B]

Aaron. Aaron, are you doing that thing again where you're being negative? Come on now, Aaron. Come on now, Aaron. Come on now, Aaron. That's not what we're doing.

[C]

You got to sing with Judd. Okay, that is true. That is true.

[B]

Sophie, you didn't even show up. Let's not start doing that thing either. Come on now. You don't even show up. You could have sung to Judd. You have a great voice. You could have done it. You bailed. Lord. All right.

[A]

Guys, I gotta say, from a dud of a first call, this has turned into a top 10 for me.

[B]

Let me say, from dud to stud.

[A]

Yeah. This has become its own animal, and I am very excited about it, and I'm gonna be very a hundred percent honest. I have a stomachache about the vote. I want you both to win. My goal is you both go to all the games, but unfortunately, I don't know. Look, I'm just the kid in Parent Trap. I'm Lindsay Lohan. I want mom and dad together.

[B]

And.

[A]

Gareth is the other twin. I think I'm thinking of the right movie.

[B]

Yeah, you are. Yeah.

[A]

No, you're the English one. I'm the Russian.

[B]

Trap them. We should trap them.

[A]

How are we going to trap them? It's never going to work.

[B]

I'll tell them that I'll go to the Lions game with each one of them, and then they'll show up together and they'll sit right next to each other.

[A]

Wait a second. That might actually work.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Wait a minute. We should probably cut this out and talk about off the call.

[A]

All right, guys, Sophie, Aaron, we appreciate you both a lot.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

Thank you, guys.

[A]

I appreciate it, guys. We're here to Help is hosted by Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds. If you'd like to be on the show, please email us your question@ Helpful Podmail.com and if you want to watch video episodes of we're here to help, you can go to our [e-mail] hereto help pod to see our entire catalog.

[B]

We're here to Help is produced by Rabbit Grimm Productions executive producers Rob Hollis, Jeff Porter, and Natalie Hollis. Associate producer Jesse Thurston. Editing, mix and master by Chris Faller. Theme song by Oliver Raleigh. The COVID artwork is by James Fosdeke. Animations by Andrew Strelecki. And if you'd like to see Gareth do stand up on the road, go to garethreynolds.com Remember, all of the advice given on. We're here to Help is for entertainment purposes only, and all listeners should be adults and make their own decisions.

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