Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self"

Podcast Information:

• Title: We're Out of Time
• Host: Richard Tate
• Episode: Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
• Release Date: March 18, 2025
• Description: Addressing the escalating fentanyl crisis, this episode features chef and rapper Chef Boy Bones, who opens up about his personal journey with addiction, the impact of substance abuse in the rap industry, and the broader implications on mental health and community well-being.

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1. Introduction to the Drug Culture in the Rap Industry

The episode begins with Chef Boy Bones shedding light on the pervasive drug culture within the rap scene. He emphasizes how substance abuse often serves as both a catalyst and a normalization factor among artists.

• Chef Boy Bones (00:59): "That's all it is. Saw the industry is. Is. Is drugs."

• Chef Boy Bones (01:26): "Most artists drink sipping lean codeine with promethazine perks, cocaine, E pills, you know, MDMA, you name it."

2. Access to Drugs: From Physicians to the Streets

Chef Boy Bones discusses the various avenues through which artists obtain drugs, highlighting the stark contrast between those who have financial means and those who do not.

• Chef Boy Bones (02:02): "The ones who got money are getting it from people that are close to physicians... the ones who don't have money are getting it from the street."

3. Tragic Losses: The Human Cost of Addiction

A poignant segment where Chef recounts losing several friends to overdose, underscoring the personal toll of the fentanyl crisis.

• Chef Boy Bones (02:31): "I've lost... rest in peace to all of them."

• Chef Boy Bones (05:56): Shares a friend's story, illustrating how addiction devastates even those from stable backgrounds.

4. The Host's Perspective: Treatment and Accessibility

Richard Tate, the host, introduces his treatment center, Carrera, while candidly addressing its high cost and limited capacity. He also promotes One Call Placement as an alternative resource for those seeking help.

• Richard Tate (07:36): "Nobody can go to Carrera... we've got affordable centers that people can go for like 250 or $500 for a deductible."

5. Chef Boy Bones' Personal Journey with Drugs

Chef Boy Bones delves into his early exposure to drugs, starting with marijuana at age 13, and how it served as a gateway to more severe substance use.

• Chef Boy Bones (12:25): "I'll never forget the day I smoked with... this is the reason why I smoked weed."

• Richard Tate (15:24): "That's why it was the gateway drug for you."

6. Impact of Relationships on Substance Use

He reflects on a significant relationship during his teenage years that further entrenched him in drug use, highlighting the influence of personal connections on addiction trajectories.

• Chef Boy Bones (21:25): "There was this hot chick that lived next door to me... she was doing real Percocets though."

7. Near-Death Experience: An Acid Trip Gone Wrong

Chef recounts a harrowing experience with acid that nearly cost him his life, emphasizing the unpredictable dangers of drug use.

• Chef Boy Bones (17:47): "I was staring at myself in the mirror on acid, and I was... in disbelief that I could protrude my eyes the way I protrude my eyes."

• Chef Boy Bones (20:22): "I probably would have died that night."

8. Current Relationship with Substance Use

Despite his tumultuous past, Chef Boy Bones maintains that his current drug use is controlled and not indicative of addiction. He discusses his ongoing relationship with marijuana and tobacco.

• Chef Boy Bones (27:35): "I've never... am I a drug, a drug addict? Do I use drugs every day? No, I don't."

• Chef Boy Bones (27:39): "I've been smoking for so long that it's at some point in time you have to tell yourself when is to stop."

9. Perception and Identity: Tattoos as a Statement

Chef Boy Bones explores how his unique appearance, particularly his face tattoos, affects how others perceive him and how he embraces his identity.

• Chef Boy Bones (29:12): "Everything's perception... I'm a kid inside. I'm never going to grow up."

• Chef Boy Bones (30:06): "I lost my mom two years ago. Rest in peace, Teresa Jackson. His tattoo I got on my face... I never ever worked a 9 to 5 job since then."

10. Encouragement and Advocacy

Towards the end, Chef Boy Bones advocates for creativity and resilience, urging fellow artists and listeners to pursue their passions despite challenges.

• Chef Boy Bones (33:01): "Put your content out there... just create. Stay creative."

• Chef Boy Bones (34:05): "Continue to follow me on all social media platforms... you never know where it's gonna go."

11. Closing Thoughts and Resources

The episode concludes with Chef Boy Bones promoting his latest music and reiterating support for content creators, while Richard Tate provides contact information for those seeking treatment.

• Chef Boy Bones (34:06): "No Jumper Freestyle... dropping this Friday. So go ahead and hit him with the no Jumper Freestyle."

• Richard Tate (34:58): "If you or a loved one is struggling, we have a number that you can call and we'll help you find the best treatment that is right for you. Call now at 888-808-6159."

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Notable Quotes

1. On the Rap Industry's Drug Culture:

   • Chef Boy Bones (01:03): "That's all it is. Saw the industry is. Is. Is drugs."

2. On Addiction and Loss:

   • Chef Boy Bones (02:31): "I've lost... rest in peace to all of them."

3. On Marijuana as a Gateway Drug:

   • Richard Tate (15:24): "That's why it was the gateway drug for you."

4. On Personal Struggles and Resilience:

   • Chef Boy Bones (29:12): "Everything's perception... I'm a kid inside. I'm never going to grow up."

5. On Encouraging Creativity:

   • Chef Boy Bones (33:01): "Put your content out there... just create. Stay creative."

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Conclusion

In this deeply personal episode, Chef Boy Bones offers a candid exploration of his experiences with substance abuse, the dark side of the rap industry's drug culture, and the profound losses that have shaped his life. Through his narrative, listeners gain insight into the complexities of addiction, the importance of seeking help, and the power of personal resilience. Richard Tate complements this by providing resources for those affected by the fentanyl crisis, reinforcing the episode's overarching message: urgent action is needed to combat the devastating impact of addiction on individuals and communities.

Transcript

[Chef Boy Bones]

$165,000. I just want to encourage people, man. For my 13th birthday, hanging out with some kids who I. Who I thought were my friends. Later on in life, these guys are nowhere to be found. I was still trying to get higher, escape something else from trauma. Knowing now, as an adult, I can definitely look back and say, this is the reason why I count times in my life where I'm like, I should have been doing that. What I'm doing now. My other homie, Itai, comes in, and he's looking for his gummy bears. He's going off. He's like, yo, who ate my.

[Richard Tate]

Wow.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Who ate my gummy? Where's my gummy bears? I'm like, in my pocket. I'm like, yo, bro, here's a dollar. Like, my bad. You know what I'm saying? We didn't mean to eat your gumm. Go get you some more of his S series. He's like, no. You know, a lot of people are chasing the highs.

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Richard Tate]

You know, Chef, thanks for coming by, man. I really appreciate it.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Thank you for having me.

[Richard Tate]

Thanks, bro.

[Chef Boy Bones]

So let's go.

[Richard Tate]

Let's get right to it. You're in the rap scene, the underground rap scene. You got a lot of friends. You guys are doing that whole thing, right?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah, I'm a rapper. I'm in the industry.

[Richard Tate]

Okay. You see a lot of drugs. Press, books.

[Chef Boy Bones]

That's all it is. Saw the industry is. Is. Is drugs. How you. I mean, that's. That's not all it is. Let me say. Let me take that back, because there are a lot of artists that don't do drugs. But, yeah, for the most part, that's, you know, that's the starter. That's the Kickstarter.

[Richard Tate]

Go. You go.

[Unknown Speaker]

What's the main one? If you had to say, like, this is what most people are doing.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Most artists drink sipping lean codeine with promethazine perks, cocaine, E pills, you know, mdma, you name it. It goes on. Shrooms. Shrooms are a little bit more on the cool side. You know, they don't really overdo the shrooms. I would say they don't overuse, you know, overuse of the shrooms, different vibe of the shrooms. But the 30s and the lean. Oh, yeah, that's like candy right there. That's like that's, that's like studio etiquette. You don't. You don't go to the studio unless you have that.

[Unknown Speaker]

Where are they, where are they getting it? Are they getting it from physicians? Are they getting it on the street?

[Chef Boy Bones]

The ones who got money are getting it from people that are close to physicians, you know. So I would say we're getting it to the closest plug that's getting it from a doctor. But the ones who are don't have money are getting it from the street. And of course, you know. The street. Yeah, the streets are. They're making it, whipping it up, cooking it in and making it right in the kitchen. So you don't know what you're getting at that point, but you're chasing that high.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Chef Boy Bones]

You know, a lot of people are chasing the high, so.

[Unknown Speaker]

And do you know anyone that's overdosed?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah, I have, man, several friends. Too many to sit here and name them one by one or rest in peace to all of them. But I'm a Valley kid. I'm born and raised out here in California. And I was raised in Sherman Oaks, you know, right off of Ventura Boulevard. I spent a lot of my early days as a kid skateboarding on the block. You know, on my block, I was saving tour. Boulevard was my street. Cool street, Cool, cool area. Calm Sherman Oaks. But behind, close, you know, behind those walls. As kids, a lot of kids was on drugs. A lot of my friends were od and a lot of my friends were heroin addicts. Young, smoking off of foil. A lot of them were sipping from at the Xenocodine. You know, I've lost. I could ten fingers. How many friends I've lost from now seven. From 17 years old to 33, bro.

[Richard Tate]

You know, just living in the Valley is enough. Living in the Valley is enough to get you doing drugs. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's. You don't know what it's like growing up in the Valley, man. I grew up right next to him in Encino. Okay. It is. The Karens in the Valley are just non stop. All the people who are pissed they don't live in the city. That's essentially what it is. Yeah. Dry. Oh. And it feels like the center of the sun in the summer. Yeah. Like I literally. You get out of the car and you want to cry. That's how, that's how bad it is.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Right, right, right, right. I can agree with that.

[Richard Tate]

Dude, I got so spoiled being here in Santa Monica and in Malibu. Oh, like you come from. You come from the city there, you.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Go broke here because they come here for this. This weather. People. They come in just for the weather.

[Richard Tate]

Just for the weather, just for the other. That's right.

[Unknown Speaker]

So you have, like, in this day and age as an adult making music and out there, and you have a friend who's buying, say he thinks he's getting a perk on the street. Is there any feeling of like, this could kill me. It could have fentanyl in it. I might. It might be laced and I could die?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah. I mean, one of the homies, not gonna say his name, but he was getting perks from an unauthorized dealer. You know, that I've. We've known that this dealer presses pills, and he still. He still is getting them. He still wants to chase that high. You know, doesn't really get that it's an addiction at the. At a certain point, it's an addiction.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Chef Boy Bones]

You know, when you're addicted to something and I feel you don't really care. You're just chasing the high. You're chasing that feeling. Just so for the viewers. Just for the viewers, you know, doing.

[Richard Tate]

That, if you're doing the perks or any opioids at all, right, for longer than five to seven days, it's got you. You don't have it.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Right.

[Richard Tate]

There's no more. You don't have a choice anymore. Right.

[Chef Boy Bones]

And you have to pay medical help, I'm assuming.

[Richard Tate]

Absolutely. So let me ask you questions. You know, any friends. You have friends who have died of fentanyl? Yes. Okay. Just speak about one of them, about what it did to their parents or their family structure, because it destroys families. It completely destroys. So I want to hear a little bit about something if you know about the pain it caused the people left behind.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Oh, man. A real. A real up one was. I'm not gonna say any names. One of my buddies, he died early off of the drug. And the crazy thing about it was he was a really good kid. Nice family. His family had money. They were. You know, he wasn't struggling or anything like that. Like a list family. And his mom and died. Actually died early. So all of his assets and shit was left to him and his sister. And his sister was obviously taking care of, like, her little brother. But he died. So when he died, every. It was like his mom. His mom and dad were already around. So that. That's, I think, was the biggest reason probably why he was on drugs, because he didn't have his mom and his father. His mom and his father died. And when his mom and Father passed away. That's when he got really bad on drugs. Because before his mom and died. Before his mom and dad died, he wasn't on drugs, but they died in a car crash. So due to that car crash, when his mom and died. When his mom and dad died, he got off drugs. Everything was left to him and his sister, and he ended up passing away. I wasn't too close to his sister, so I don't know what her pain felt like, but I know what my pain felt like as I was his friend and losing a friend is, you know, there's no happy feeling at all. But just to know his story, know where his pain comes from. Being older now, because back then, I didn't really. Couldn't put the two and two together, like all this. Why is this guy doing drugs? Like, he's. He has the best life. I'm going over here, I got a skateboard to school, and he's. He's driving Audi to school. It's like, you know, it's like, what the. Why are you. Why is your life so bad where you have to do drugs? I didn't understand the pain that he was going through, you know, whatever his coping mechanism was.

[Richard Tate]

Okay, you know, anybody who's suffering, you send them over here. We'll find a spot for him. My treatment center, Carrera, is the finest treatment facility in the world. We're not getting anybody from the podcast. This is about just talking about drugs and the evils of fentanyl and how it's putting all of our children and our loved ones in harm's way. So that's all this is. My center is 165,000 bucks a month.

[Chef Boy Bones]

$165,000? Come on, man. $165,000. Come on, man.

[Richard Tate]

Hey, Doc, can you fix that?

[Unknown Speaker]

That's exothalamus.

[Richard Tate]

What does that mean?

[Unknown Speaker]

That's what that is. That's a skill right there.

[Chef Boy Bones]

It took a long time to learn how to do that. That.

[Unknown Speaker]

That figure will make your eyes pop out, though.

[Chef Boy Bones]

That will make your eyes. That's a lot of money, dude.

[Richard Tate]

That's.

[Chef Boy Bones]

But if. But. But there's no. There's no amount of money that if the help is there right in the world.

[Richard Tate]

Listen, all seriousness. The. You know, nobody can go to Carrera. I mean, we've got 18 beds. You know, they're full. There's a wait list. There's. It's always full. It's always wait list. But there's 18. It's never going to be more than 18. We've got affordable centers that people can go for like 250 or $500 for a deductible and do that. But some people don't even have that insurance. And that's why I'm saying we've got this place called One Call Placement, where you can call. Right. We don't get anything out of it. All we do is we find a spot for these people to get well. Because if we can't help them, and maybe we can help maybe 20%, maybe of the people that call, the other 80% have to be referred out. You know, we don't ever want anybody to feel like they don't have the money.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Right.

[Richard Tate]

Okay. Because $165,000, a lot of money.

[Chef Boy Bones]

That's a Porsche GTRS twin turbo.

[Richard Tate]

Is it?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah. Hell yeah, it is.

[Unknown Speaker]

But it wouldn't bring your kid back if your kid died of it.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Wouldn't bring your kid back.

[Unknown Speaker]

I have a. I have friends of mine who, like you, remain nameless, made a ton of money, hundreds of million dollars. You know, investment banking, investment. And sadly, my friend passed away, and then their son just decided on a whim that he was going to try a perk that was laced with fentanyl and he died.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Damn.

[Unknown Speaker]

If they had had Narca in there, this Charlie, a year ago now, if you said to them, $165,000 a month will take your kid and get them clean, don't think for one second they would have done it, knowing what the outcome might have been. Right? I mean, yeah, no amount of money brings your child back.

[Richard Tate]

A lot of people don't know, though, bro. A lot of people don't. They don't play through. They don't think it's going to happen to them and they don't want to part with the money. It's fine.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I'm a little bit. Yeah, Steve, man, that's it.

[Richard Tate]

But. But they don't have to. That's the point. They don't have to because there's all these different levels of care. You don't have to pop for 165 clicks.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Right?

[Richard Tate]

Right. You know, if you've got a kid.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Right.

[Richard Tate]

Okay. You know, that's for your wife. That's for you.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah.

[Richard Tate]

Okay. That's for. That's for your kid, if you like them. Right. I mean, it's not. It's not for everybody, but everyone's got a place to go and we got a list of everywhere we can send people because it's so hard. Right. If you're calling on drugs.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Richard Tate]

And you've got that moment of clarity. You've just called 10 places and gotten jerked around. You don't want to get sober anymore, right? You want to get loaded. Because this is Right.

[Chef Boy Bones]

That's crazy.

[Richard Tate]

You know what I mean? Anyway, I want to ask you a couple of questions. Did drugs or alcohol ever play a role in your life?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yes.

[Richard Tate]

Tell me about it.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Oh, the most recent.

[Richard Tate]

Sure. Let's start there.

[Chef Boy Bones]

So let's start there. The most recent, actually, to be honest, marijuana. Marijuana is the catalyst for everything. The first time I smoked marijuana, I think that if I'd ever. If I never smoked weed, I think I'd probably be a little bit further off in life.

[Richard Tate]

Right?

[Chef Boy Bones]

I'm at a great place, and I'm thankful for where I am, but I gotta be.

[Richard Tate]

I saw the woman you're gonna marry. You're doing better than me, man.

[Chef Boy Bones]

You know, I probably. If maybe I'd already be married, already sitting in a freaking castle, but it's coming.

[Unknown Speaker]

How old were you when you first smoked weed?

[Chef Boy Bones]

13. I'll never forget the day I smoked with. I smoked on my 13th birthday, hanging out with some kids who I. Who I thought were my friends. Later on in life for the. These guys are nowhere to be found, and we're not friends anymore. So smoking weed with these guys on my 13th birthday when I should have been home, My mom planned a surprise birthday party for me. I never had a surprise party. And instead my homies were like, yo, after school we're gonna go get high. Come get high with us. And I'm like, every birthday's been the same, not knowing my mom's throwing a surprise birthday party for me. So I'm like, it. I go kick it with the homies, and they're always blazing. I wasn't square. I'm like, I'm not gonna smoke, but today's my birthday. I'm 13. I'm feeling like a man for some reason. And the homies are blazing. I'm like. I'm like, today. I'm gonna smoke today. So we went to the homie's house, and he was stealing weed from his mom. I'll never forget this. He went in, he stole the weed, stole some weed from his mom, rolled a blunt up. We went on the side of his house and we smoked his blunt. And it started getting. It was about six or seven. It started getting dark around there, and I'm like, it's my birthday. I'm stoned already, though. I'm like, I gotta get home. So I called my dad. And my dad, he's like. He's pissed. He's like, where the are you? It's your birthday. You should be here. And I'm like, every birthday's been the same. Like, what's. He's like, where are you? So my dad comes, he gets me. He picks me up. And then the ride. I'll never forget that ride home because I was so stoned that I didn't. This is my first time smoking weeds. I don't know what's going on. My dad is just pissed, though. He's like, are you high right now? And I'm just like, yeah. And he's like, go. He's like, you're smoking. You're making bad decisions. And I'm just like, this is going through one ear, out the other. And I get home, and our whole family's there. My cousin's there. My mom's there. My daddy got a cake. My mom made me lobster. And. And I just felt like a piece of. Because it was out getting stoned. But, yeah, 13 was the first time I smoked weed.

[Richard Tate]

That didn't keep you from getting stoned again.

[Chef Boy Bones]

That didn't keep me from getting stoned again. That increased my love for marijuana. I. I'm. I still smoke to this day. I've been smoking marijuana since I was 13 years old. I've taken periodic breaks throughout this.

[Richard Tate]

All right, well, let's get off the marijuana thing, because that's never killed anybody.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah, for sure.

[Richard Tate]

Did it kill anybody?

[Unknown Speaker]

But I want to hear. So you said that because of that.

[Chef Boy Bones]

So because of marijuana. That definitely open doors later on in life.

[Richard Tate]

Okay, but hold on a second. Let's see if he knows why. Why.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Why did marijuana.

[Richard Tate]

Yeah, why is the marijuana the gateway drug for you?

[Chef Boy Bones]

I think it was just. It was a drug. It was like, I did marijuana, and it was like, okay, cool. And all these other drugs now are just like, okay, cool. It's like being at a club and people are in the bathroom doing bumps of cocaine. It's like, oh, you're doing a bump. Oh, you're doing a bump. Okay, I'll go bump, too. It's very social.

[Richard Tate]

Now, let me ask you a question. Did you get high enough on the marijuana?

[Chef Boy Bones]

No, but the marijuana gave me a feeling that timeout. No, I didn't get high enough.

[Richard Tate]

That was the answer.

[Chef Boy Bones]

No, I didn't get high enough. That was.

[Richard Tate]

That's why. That's why it was the gateway drug for you.

[Chef Boy Bones]

That's why it was a gateway drug for me. I didn't get high enough.

[Richard Tate]

That's right.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I was still trying to get higher. Escape something else from trauma. Knowing now as an adult that's the.

[Unknown Speaker]

Answer right there, is the escape. This actually a rabbi who said that drug, alcohol use is rooted in someone's uncomfortableness in self. And whatever that's related to, be it trauma, you know, family dynamics, whatever it is. Can you look back and say, like, I was escaping from a. Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Looking back at it now. Yeah, definitely. I can definitely look back and say, this is the reason why I smoked these. And I count times, too. I'm like. I count times in my life where I'm like, I should have been doing that, what I'm doing now. But I was smoking weed, and I'm like, oh, that's why I was smoking weed, because that, you know, this is the reason why. But ultimately, healing that reason why I was smoking weed made it a little bit easier to get. Get done what I had to get done.

[Unknown Speaker]

So I have two questions. One, what was the. That that caused you to use to escape from? Is it anything you can talk about?

[Richard Tate]

Can you answer it with your eyes out? No.

[Chef Boy Bones]

No.

[Richard Tate]

Do you.

[Unknown Speaker]

That scared me.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Running out the door.

[Richard Tate]

Don't do it again.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Oh, man.

[Richard Tate]

Talking about dick.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Just probably family. Family. Broken, broken home, broken childhood, you know, losing a lot of family members. When I was young, I was very close to my.

[Richard Tate]

What.

[Unknown Speaker]

What did you lose?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Just illnesses, just a broken family. Like, my uncle died when I was young. My grandmother. I was very close to my grandmother. And my. And these are just family members that were, you know, close. My mom's. My mom's and my dad were on drugs when they were young, when I was. When I was young. So that probably was drug abuse in the home, you know, not my dad, not always being around. So just certain absences, right? You know, being.

[Unknown Speaker]

Feeling what led to the use.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah, for sure, for sure.

[Richard Tate]

Have you ever been so messed up that your eyes popped out accidentally?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Never, but they have. I have been so gone. One time on my eyes popped. That was my first time doing acid on acid.

[Richard Tate]

Your eyes.

[Chef Boy Bones]

My eyes popped out on acid. I was in the mirror looking on. I was looking at myself in the mirror on acid, and I was staring at myself, and I was, like, in disbelief that I could protrude my eyes the way I protrude my eyes, and I protruded my eyes in the mirror off acid. And it was just like the craziest thing I've ever seen. I've never seen a being like it.

[Richard Tate]

I don't even the first time your eyes ever came out?

[Chef Boy Bones]

No, that wasn't the first time my eyes ever came out. The first time eyes ever came out was the first time I. No, I'm gonna put this on the podcast, right? Yeah, for sure.

[Unknown Speaker]

I can't. I can't.

[Chef Boy Bones]

But, yeah, I was off the back on that story. I was off acid. I never wanted to do acid. And I. My homies was in a studio session, and my boy was buying acid in a big studio session we were in, and he happened to have these triple dose gummy bears. And everybody cleared out the studio. And I'm in the studio session with my homie, Razor. We're mixing a session, and the homie's like, you know, we're smoking weed, we're faded, we got the munchies. The homie's like, damn, a pack of gummy bears. So he starts smacking these gummy bears. I'm like, yo, throw me some. So I eat two gummy bears, brother. Homie Shady comes in, he eats two gummy bears. Shout out my boy wacko. He were at ABC Studios back in the day. My other homie comes in, eats two gummy bears, and I'm like, hell, yeah, we craving satisfied. Thirty seconds later, my other homie, Itai, comes in and he's looking for his gummy bears. He's going off. He's like, yo, who ate my gummy bears? Where's my gummy bears? I'm like, I go in my pocket. I'm like, yo, bro, here's a dollar. Like my bag, you know what I'm saying? We didn't mean to eat your gummy. I'll go get you some more if it's that serious. He's like, no, he said, you guys ate three double dose gummies. Acid, whatever. Mind you, I've never wanted to do this drug ever in my life. And you're just telling me that I just ate two gummies with three drops of acid on. I freaked out. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm tripping. So my homies down the hall, these guys, they're hippies, they trip out, they do acid all the time. So I run down to the hall, like, yo, what's up, bones? I'm like, I just did acid. They're like, oh, yeah. Finally. I'm like, I'm like, no, no, no, no. They're like, how much you doing? Just like two gummies with three drops. And they're like, oh. And these are my homies that do acid. They're like, yeah, you're about to go on a trip. My boy and I went on a trip that day. Yeah. Out of body experience, dude.

[Richard Tate]

I would have drank a half a bottle.

[Unknown Speaker]

You get brain nails from that.

[Chef Boy Bones]

And the crazy thing is I want. I wanted to throw it up. So I'm like, I'm like. Only thing I can think of is throw it up. No, you don't do that because when you throw it up, it hits your system even harder because it's coming out of the body.

[Richard Tate]

Does it? Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

I mean, if you create that pressure and get in the bloodstream faster.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah. And that was a ride of life.

[Unknown Speaker]

If you have more, you'd be dead.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I probably would have. I probably would have died that night. Right? I'm gonna be. I was so fried. I was so I was somewhere where I wasn't supposed to be, but I was still here. And the only thing that I could put together in my mind off this acid trip was that we are just spectacular beings. Greater than what we really know that we are, you know.

[Richard Tate]

So you don't do acid or mushrooms? No. You've done a couple.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I'll micro dose on some shrooms. But I won't do acid now. I won't do acid again. I've that one trip took me to where I need to go. I feel like I never need to experience, experiment with any type of drug again.

[Richard Tate]

Right after that acid trip, I feel.

[Unknown Speaker]

Like I went on a trip listening that story.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah. Don't need to. I'm going to do acid again after that.

[Unknown Speaker]

So you said you were 13 when you smoked weed? And then when did. When did it lead to other stuff?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Like my girlfriend watching this at the same time.

[Richard Tate]

I don't know.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Can she watch it? Like this is like live showing. Like.

[Richard Tate]

I'm sure they've got it on. I'm sure they.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Oh, is that bad or good? That's great. That's cool.

[Richard Tate]

I love her.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I love to see. I love her to see me in my element.

[Richard Tate]

Yeah, I'm sure she is.

[Chef Boy Bones]

So the question was what, like what.

[Unknown Speaker]

Age and what led next from just doing weed at your 13th birthday?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Probably 17. And women. Sorry, woman.

[Richard Tate]

Right.

[Chef Boy Bones]

There was this hot chick that lived next door to me. She was 24 years old. I was 17 at the time. I was only smoking weed. I hadn't done any drug ever but smoke weed. And there was this hot girl that lived next door that everybody wanted and she happened to be into. Well, I'm not gonna say she was just into me. She was in every guy but I was the innocent guy, like this innocent, young, handsome guy I happen to be. And I fell in love, man, with this chick next door. Because she was just, she was it, she was just this bombshell and I'm just like in love with this girl. She was everything. She was kind hearted, free spirit, just everything you can imagine. The girl next door, this was your girl next door. But she was heavily off drugs and she was actually doing perks. She was doing real Percocets though. This was back in like 2011, right? So she was doing real. Not this press that they're doing now. She was doing real drugs and she was doing mushrooms and perks and she was drinking liquor and she was just doing it all. And that was the first time I ever did a perk, was with this girl that was the first time I ever got drunk was with this grandma drunk and off a perk at 17. At 17 with this girl next door. And that was like a thing for like a year or two, you know. That was like.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's a long time from when you first smoked weed at 13. That's four years.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah, that was like a thing or two because I was in love with this girl and that's all she did. So hanging out with. I was kind of like dating her while she was dating the world. But she was, you know, she was like pimping all these dudes and I was just, you know, getting free. She was buying me whatever I wanted. So it was like, you know, I didn't 17, you know, she was 24, she was taking care of me and I was living next door. I was like, you know, I didn't really know what life was. That's what life was. It was just like this hot chick, she goes out, we go to expensive dinners and you buy me all type of designer clothes and I don't really care who she's or who her sugar daddy was. That didn't matter to me. That was none of my business. You know what I'm saying?

[Richard Tate]

That's awesome.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah, that was.

[Richard Tate]

That's awesome.

[Chef Boy Bones]

That's the first time.

[Richard Tate]

Why is that? Why no chicks are the gateway drug?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Well, yeah, it was a gateway drug. She definitely was a gateway drug. If I probably because at that time I was. Had my own life going on. I was in the streets, I was rapping, I was doing. But I wasn't in, in drugs into drugs. I was around homies that did drugs. Like I say my homies are passing away doing heroin, they're smoking off foil. And I had never touched A piece of foil in my life. Thank God. I could take my hat off and kiss my baby to that. You know what I'm saying? I've never put a needle on my arm. I do have a seven year, a nine year old. Damn. Time flies by. I got a nine year old.

[Richard Tate]

Wow.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Boy, Julius Legend Jones. Shout out legend.

[Richard Tate]

Yeah.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I got a son.

[Richard Tate]

That's a dope name for a kid.

[Unknown Speaker]

That is a good name.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah, Julius, what is it? Jalius? Like Ja. Like, yeah, like Yahweh. Yahshua. Yeah. As a reason. That's what his name derives from.

[Unknown Speaker]

So 1724, how long does that last?

[Chef Boy Bones]

1724. That lasted about, like I say, two years. It ended because she ended up getting strung out. I ended up moving. We ended up moving to a different part of the city and she just ended up getting strung out. And by the time I was 19, she just didn't look the same anymore. And our relationship had changed. You know, she had more bodies on her and I was, I was growing at that point. Like there was. If I had been maybe 24 in the same mindset as her, I probably would have because the, the chemistry me and this chick had was like, you know, I'm thankful that I have better chemistry with my girl than I'm with now. But you know, as far as that, that would have never lasted because she was on drugs. So that relationship never would have went anywhere.

[Unknown Speaker]

So you're 19 done with her. Where are you at drug use wise by that time?

[Chef Boy Bones]

19 done with her. Sipping lean. Different. I'm gonna be honest, I was sipping promethazine codeine around that time. I was drinking lean on my partners. You know, we were, we were sipping lean and Papa Xanax.

[Unknown Speaker]

You know, you're making music then and.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I'm making music then. I'm rapping at the basement. 818 Shout out to basically a 18 on Ventura Boulevard.

[Richard Tate]

Oh, I've been, I've, I've, I've driven past.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I'm a freestyle champion. It was a paint store slash record shop. I sold paint and they used to host battles every last Sunday of the month.

[Richard Tate]

Really.

[Chef Boy Bones]

So I would go out there with my big brother, Top Notch, and we would rip heads off. I'm known in the Valley for sure. Besides my eyes, I'm like an underground MC. I'm an underground rap legend from the 818 San Fernando Valley. So if people didn't know me from my eyes, which caught on later years later, but I was known for my, my lyricism.

[Richard Tate]

Did you?

[Unknown Speaker]

Was at what point in your life were you thinking to yourself like, this is a problem, like my use is a problem? Or did you never think that?

[Chef Boy Bones]

In my 30s, looking back on all the years I've smoked marijuana, I have no regrets on doing it. But you're still doing it. I do it moderately now. I don't, I don't smoke as much as I used to. I will smoke like an ounce every other day. We're smoking like big, like I'm co owner with my brother. He has a big weed brand like my, my. We smoke pounds like we. I smoke weed like I'm a, you know, but it's all in moderation. You shouldn't feel, you shouldn't stress the brain. You know, I've been smoking for so long that it's at some point in time you have to tell yourself when is to stop. You got to take a break sometime. And that's part of that addiction. You know, weed is a very addictive drug and it's not really. Did it actually take the plant? It's not really the weed, it's the tobacco. Mostly for me because I split my weed. So I'll say I'm more addicted to tobacco than I am smoking marijuana.

[Richard Tate]

Yeah, but you've never been to rehab and you've never been to AA meeting.

[Chef Boy Bones]

No, I'm a strong person. I'm strong minded. I've been through so much bull through my childhood that I've never ever got too strong out because at the same time I was. I've done drugs to escape certain situations, but I've seen it in my family firsthand. I've seen drug addicts in my family. I've seen what it does. It's two things. Dead or in jail. I've seen that. I don't want to be dead, I don't want to be in jail. It's a fine line. Pick one. So it's like it's moderation. I'm not going to sit here and lie to anybody and say I've never done drugs before because I have. But am I a drug, a drug addict? Do I use drugs every day? No, I don't.

[Unknown Speaker]

It's interesting you, you know the idea. Like I've used drugs, but I'm not an addict. Like somebody who treats addicts and is around addicts all day. They do not possess that power. Once they are hooked, they are hooked. There is no. Because I know me like I'm not an addict. I can have one beer and that's it. I'm not sitting there thinking I need five or six or 10 or 12. And I'm just not an addict. I could smoke one cigarette and that would be it, right? But it is, it is. People are powerless.

[Richard Tate]

You know, bro, you're a serious guy. Do you ever feel like people may not see you as the serious man that you are because of the eye popping thing?

[Chef Boy Bones]

To a certain degree.

[Richard Tate]

How does that make you feel?

[Chef Boy Bones]

I love it because everything's perception. You know, one of my favorite comments that I love seeing, I love, I pin it every time I see this comment is grown man, by the way. And they're referring to, you know, my videos. Like this is a grown man doing this. And I love it because in the end of the day, I'm a kid inside. I'm never going to grow up. And if you've grown up already, well, that sucks for you. And I just, I pray for you because growing up sucks.

[Richard Tate]

Good. Will you pray for me tonight, please?

[Chef Boy Bones]

No, it's okay, man. You just grown up sucks. It does, it does. But you can't let that be the end. All. You know, we live, we came here not knowing. We're gonna leave not knowing. So just be that kid at all times and keep that kid, and you keep that kid alive. You can't. Once you. I feel like once you, once that kid dies, you die.

[Unknown Speaker]

A secure man is cool with being underestimated, right?

[Chef Boy Bones]

There's nothing out there, man. Well, I forget this. I lost my mom two years ago. Rest in peace, Teresa Jackson. His tattoo I got on my face right here, it's my mother's name. I put a bunch of the reason I even have face tattoos because I told myself, I was like. When I first tatted myself, I said, I'm never gonna work a job again. I was working at Time Warner Cables. Oh, that's.

[Richard Tate]

That's awesome.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I was making a hundred thousand dollars a year in sales. I was living a good, chill life. I'm 20 something years old. I'm making 100k in sales. I'm killing them. I got the Gifford gab, you know what I'm saying? I'm on the phone. I'm killing their ass over there. I'm killing them so bad that they don't, they don't want to bring me up in the bracket. They don't want to make me supervisor, they don't want to make me a manager. They want to keep my right there on the phone. And I said, that's a problem. So I said, I can't work here anymore because I'm Never going to own this business. I'm never going to be the owner here. I'm always going to be the ant. So I tatted my face. I put my son's name. I have my son Julius back in 2004, and I tatted his name on the side of my face. And I said, after this tattoo, I'm never going to work a job again. I tatted my son's name on my face. I literally made a video. Me and my buddies were sitting in the studio and we're like, My bro is like, bro. He's like, you got all these talents, bro. You rap, you're smart, you're this, you're that, but nobody knows you because you could pop your eyes out of your head, bro. He's like, let's go viral tomorrow. Let's do something. He's like, put it on the Internet. And I was self conscious about my eyes. I never. I was doing it. Like I said, I'm a legend in the Valley. Everybody knows I got to pop his eyes, that I raps, but they don't know me on the Internet. So this day, we all go to the store, we make a video, and I'm like, tomorrow we're posting it. This is it. We post a video in the morning, I wake up, it's a million views. I quit my job, and no more. And I've never been. I've never. I've never worked a 9 to 5 job since then. And then I continued to tat, you know, because I fell in love with the art. I got tats all over. My body's covered. But the last. The last tattoo I said I was gonna put in my face was my mom's name anyway, so that's. That's the last one. My face.

[Unknown Speaker]

But I just lost my mother and father in 14 days.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Oh, man.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'm not gonna attack my face, but maybe I'll.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Condolences, man.

[Unknown Speaker]

That is a great story. That is a recognition of self and worth, right?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

Like, I'm doing this. They're keeping me down.

[Chef Boy Bones]

They're keeping me down.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'm gonna do my own thing.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I'm gonna do my own thing, and that's what I did.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's the American dream.

[Chef Boy Bones]

It is the American dream, and everybody has it in them.

[Unknown Speaker]

That is the best story about the use of YouTube that I've ever heard. That is cool.

[Chef Boy Bones]

The Internet. The Internet will change your life.

[Richard Tate]

Yeah.

[Chef Boy Bones]

If you utilize it the right way.

[Richard Tate]

I can't stop watching them. I want Kenny on from now on. I think he Said good.

[Unknown Speaker]

No, that's everybody.

[Richard Tate]

Good story in the comment section. Let us know if you want Kenny here out every week. And don't anybody say I suck and he's better than me because I already know that. All right, all right, let's. What, what, what do you want to talk about? What do you want to plug? What are you doing? I want to support you in anything you're doing.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Definitely tune in to all the great music that I have. Continuing to drop. I'm finally in a drop in zone. Check my music out. It's on all streaming platforms at Chefboy Bones. Continue to follow me on all social media platforms. The only handle that I have is at Chef Boy Bones. And I just want to encourage people, man, to stream. I want to encourage people to drop content. I want to encourage that fellow content creator, that rapper that's looking at this podcast, is watching this right now, man. Put your out there in the world because you never know who's gonna like it. That circle that you have of 10 friends or 20 people in your circle, the world is bigger than that. And I never knew how big the world was until I posted and believed in myself. So just put the content out there. You never know where it's gonna go. Just create. Stay creative.

[Richard Tate]

So is there a song that you own? Not that you had on a label, not that somebody else wrote or has any ownership in at all. Is there song that you have that you'd like us to play for you on the outro?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Yeah, I can definitely give you one for sure.

[Richard Tate]

Which one?

[Chef Boy Bones]

Oh, man, that's. That's a tough one. It'd have to be no Jumper Freestyle. It just dropped. I just. I just. I was on a road to 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. We're 2,000 away. We'll probably be there by the night. So that no Jumper Freestyle is dropping this Friday. All platforms. So go ahead and hit him with the no Jumper Freestyle.

[Richard Tate]

All right, we got that. We got that. All right.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Hey, man, y'all know the vibes. It's your boy, Chef Boy Bones. And we'll see you next Tuesday.

[Unknown Speaker]

Excuse me.

[Richard Tate]

Oh, that's so good.

[Unknown Speaker]

Scary.

[Richard Tate]

What's scary?

[Unknown Speaker]

It scares me. I don't know why.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I'm glad it scares you.

[Richard Tate]

I have you here.

[Unknown Speaker]

I got it. I'm the straight man.

[Chef Boy Bones]

I'm glad it scares you, man.

[Unknown Speaker]

It's so nice to meet you.

[Chef Boy Bones]

Thank you. Thank you for having me.

[Richard Tate]

You're the best, bro.

[Chef Boy Bones]

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