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Kelly Wright
CBN News senior White House correspondent Kelly Wright joins the we're out of Time podcast.
Richard Tate
I think a lot of people are hungry and thirsty for something more than just what's passe. In many ways, it does not matter how we get here, as long as we're here and we do something with the time that we have. And you see their resilience and you see their perseverance and you see their heartbreak. And in the midst of the pain, they are still efforting to reach out and touch other people. And the good, the bad, the ugly and the beautiful happens in that dash. The question is, what do we do with all of those elements of living? We're all born for a purpose and a reason, but we are, I believe, a beacon of hope. When I travel around the world, there are some people saying, what's going on in America? We're concerned about America. Well, why are you concerned about America? Because you're the beacon of hope. You're the light that shines. Keep shining it.
Kelly Wright
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Unknown
You know Kelly Wright, Richard Tate, thank you for coming, man. I really appreciate it. We've been friends for a while and I've been waiting for you to come to town so you could do this. And I'm very, very grateful to you.
Richard Tate
Thank you. The feeling is mutual. And thanks for having me. It's really an honor.
Unknown
Yeah. Anyway, I have problems taking it in. I still do. It's. It's the work I still got to do.
Richard Tate
That's what friends are for.
Unknown
Thank God. I want to start with your story. Can you share a little bit about your upbringing and what got you here?
Richard Tate
Wow, that's.
Unknown
We got to do some character development.
Richard Tate
How much time do we have?
Unknown
We have as long as you want, buddy.
Richard Tate
Well, I think the best way to tell a story is to go to the beginning. And the beginning is this 16 year old girl who dreams of one day becoming a psychiatrist, kind of working eventually in your field. And she has these aspirations of accomplishing that. She's precocious, she's intelligent, she's vivacious. And she befriends the wife of a pastor, not hers, but a neighboring pastor. She's invited to go on a downtown excursion to go shopping. On a Saturday, she arrives at the pastor's home. The wife has already left. He invites her in what happens after that should never happen. He took advantage. Sexual assault, rape. And this young 16 year old girl is traumatized, not knowing who to turn to, realizing that this is a man who represents the faith, community, a pillar of the community. Who does she tell?
Unknown
Right.
Richard Tate
She doesn't even tell her own mother because she knows her mother can go ballistic and get tyrannical. There's no telling what's going to happen then. So wisdom prevails and she doesn't do that. A lot of young girls go through that even now and they don't know who to turn to. She didn't go to the police because it would be her word against his.
Unknown
That's right.
Richard Tate
Ultimately what happens, she finds out that she's pregnant. Now she's on the horns of a dilemma. What does she do now? Well, she continues to pray for some direction. She gets some advice from her grandmother and ultimately she gets advice from a download from God who says this is the only child you're ever going to have biologically. And one day she comes home from high school, mind you, she's going to high school. She comes home from high school and she sees her suitcase packed and she asked her mother, what's the suitcase for? We're flying you to Nebraska to have an abortion because this was a time that abortion wasn't legalized. And she says, I'm not going anywhere. God has already told me this is the only child I'm going to have biologically. So five days after her 17th birthday. 17.
Unknown
And the parents don't know yet who got her pregnant?
Richard Tate
No, the single parent grandmother doesn't know, her father doesn't know. They're strange, but. So that's why they want, that's why they want answers. And she's not giving the answer. I'm sorry. For whatever reason. And so five days after her 17th birthday, she produces this child, delivers the child. And you're looking at the child.
Unknown
Yeah, I knew that.
Richard Tate
Yeah, you did.
Unknown
Wow.
Richard Tate
So that's where the beginning is.
Unknown
Wow. How long did you have with your mother? When did she pass?
Richard Tate
Too short lived. She died at the age of 67. And how old were you? I was 17 years younger, so I was 40 when my mother passed away. I'm sorry, 50 when my mother passed away.
Unknown
That was just my way of finding out how old you were since I asked you earlier and you didn't tell me.
Richard Tate
Well, you, you, you gave me a compliment. You said I look much younger than what I really am, so.
Unknown
Yeah, but that's because I was scared to get it wrong. So I just went down. I. Truthfully, I went down five years. Okay. That was it, though. So we're still doing good.
Richard Tate
So June Lorraine Overton Wright, is where my story begins. And I'd have to go deeper than that and say God actually did it through June and brought me into this world, even through the circumstances. You know, we're. We're all born for a purpose and a reason. And in many ways, it does not matter how we get here, as long as we're here and we do something with the time that we have in that life. From the day that I'm born to the day that I'm dying, what am I doing in the dash?
Unknown
Do you know what that. Because life's in the dash.
Richard Tate
It's in the dash.
Unknown
Life's the dash.
Richard Tate
And that's not just a saying.
Unknown
I love that you said that. No, that's real.
Richard Tate
That's real.
Unknown
I love that you said I'm the only person who's ever said that. That I'm aware of. Life's in the dash.
Richard Tate
It is.
Unknown
That's how you do it. You look at your tombstone and this is the date you were born, and this is the date you were gone. And then there's a dash. And that's the life.
Richard Tate
It's. And the good, the bad, the ugly, and the beautiful happens in that dash. The question is, what do we do with all of those elements of living? And June is my hero. Who is June?
Unknown
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Richard Tate
My mom is my hero.
Unknown
But you know what? What came up for me? You could have adopted the position that because your mother was raped by a pastor, that would not be something that you would ever be interested in. And spoiler alert, you're also a pastor.
Richard Tate
I'm an ordained minister, licensed. And I, I. And the same thing as a pastor, except I've never pastored a church for. Except the exception of being an associate pastor at Open Door Chapel in Virginia beach back in the 90s. I always like to let people know I'm a sinner saved by grace.
Unknown
You're sinner saved by grace.
Richard Tate
And people get. Sometimes people get upset with that. What do you mean you're a sinner saved by grace?
Unknown
They've never been to church. Those are the people that upset about.
Richard Tate
It, which means we have our downfalls. And. But I want to get back to so real quickly. My mother, please. She knew that God was right because mom wanted to get married. They try to produce a child. It never happened. After that, they were divorced. And I have a sister who's 13 years younger than me. How did that happen? It wasn't an immaculate conception. It was an adoption. My mother saw a child, Baby Girl, knew that the young girl was in need, and that was. That became my sister.
Unknown
Are you close with her today?
Richard Tate
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Not enough. Not enough.
Unknown
So good.
Richard Tate
I'm never close enough with my family. If I could, I would be with my family every single day.
Unknown
Right?
Richard Tate
Yeah.
Unknown
Yeah.
Richard Tate
And you're the same way.
Unknown
But it's actually not. Actually not.
Richard Tate
No, no.
Unknown
Because my childhood was so tough and so bad. I was always like this.
Richard Tate
I hear you.
Unknown
Right. Around my family, because now I've got a decent family. Nobody screams at each other, nobody yells at each other, nobody cusses each other out, nobody hits anybody. Obviously, it's like. It's a completely different vibe. And so I had to get used to it. But over the. What changed? It was Covid. I got comfortable at Covid. And I hate saying that, because so many people died, and it was horrific.
Richard Tate
But I understand what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. And Covid did that to a lot of people.
Unknown
Yeah.
Richard Tate
And in many ways, because of that, Covid brought a lot of people together that had been far apart.
Unknown
It also caused a lot of divorces.
Richard Tate
Let's be balanced. It did. Because some people realize, wait a minute. I'm living with this person that I've been married to, but I've been estranged from, and now we have to live under the same household.
Unknown
Right.
Richard Tate
Yeah. So it did cause a lot of divorces. But I. I'm going to take the pause and say it caused a lot of people to come back together and realize, oh, I do love you.
Unknown
That's because you're one of the most decent men I've ever met. And you see a glass half full, and most people see it half empty, and I just see half a glass, and that's okay.
Richard Tate
You know what? And the reason why I say that is because God can work with anything.
Unknown
For sure.
Richard Tate
And. And I haven't seen him overlook anyone yet.
Unknown
Can I tell you something funny? So this is how I picture it. And I don't know if I've ever told anybody, but you've got God and Jesus and Moses, and they're all up there in heaven, and these guys are at the. At the side of God, at the hand of God. And God says, see that guy? See that idiot, Richard Tate? I'm gonna make him somebody. And immediately, Jesus and Moses reach into their pocket and say, I'll take that action. So funny.
Richard Tate
He's never Surprised me.
Unknown
I swear to God, that's how I think of it. And then I'm just like, walking around all day. I'm like, hey, is this okay? Yeah, just do it. You sure? How many times are you gonna ask me? I'm God, you know.
Richard Tate
One of my dearest friends, he passed away. In fact, he was the. The. The. The man who ordained me in his church. Fritz Stegeman, tall, 6 foot 8 German guy from. From New York City. And he used to say, God loves us, warts and all. And I used to love that. And he. And he. He wants to tell me, kelly, how does an orange become an orange? Said, I don't know, it just hangs in there.
Unknown
That's so funny.
Richard Tate
And so what that taught me is that when you base that according to God's scripture, it's really about perseverance.
Unknown
Yeah.
Richard Tate
And endurance and hanging in there when the storms of life come. Just like June did when the storms of life came and ransacked her entire dream, by the way. She never did become that psychiatrist, but she went on to become a high school counselor and saved a lot of kids who had been broken.
Unknown
Dude, she raised an elegant man.
Richard Tate
I'm grateful. I can't take credit for what June did or what God did or what my wife Loretta has done. I'm. And what my children have. Have burnished within me. Looking at them, looking at my grandchildren, and then saying to myself, when I look in the mirror, only God can do this, because warts and all sins and all things, I mean, I'm not a perfect man. No one is. I never like to say that I'm perfect.
Unknown
Did I ever tell you I got baptized? Jewish? I got baptized. Did I ever tell you that?
Richard Tate
No, but welcome to the kingdom.
Unknown
I'm the king, though. Do you know why I got baptized?
Richard Tate
Why did you get baptized?
Unknown
Because at the time, I. In my first marriage, I. I married probably one of the best looking women I had ever seen in my life. And she was a born again Christian. And I'm like, yeah, whatever. Okay. And so we started going to the shepherd of the Hills Church, and a guy by the name of Pastor Dudley runs it. But I became close with Pastor Sean Walden. And so one day I asked him, I'm like, listen, I just want to. She meets this and whatever. And I was hoping if you could meet me at my house, we'll go down to the beach, you'll dunk me. And I'm done. And he goes, absolutely. And then. Just the goodness of him and seeing him do this.
Richard Tate
Yeah.
Unknown
The Spirituality of it made sense to me because I don't like religion. I just never do. And I think God is, you know, a lot of it. And a lot of the religions, although.
Richard Tate
God doesn't like religion.
Unknown
Thank God you said that, man. Thank God you said that he didn't care about that.
Richard Tate
God likes kingdom, his kingdom, and he wants to share it with each and every one of us, whether you're Jewish, Christian, Islam, whatever you are. God wants to share his kingdom with his people. Which is why in my frame of thinking and you getting baptized, it's because there's this reality that God, looking at mankind, realized that mankind needed something more than just his wrath. They needed to see an outward expression and manifestation of his love. And that's why when you read the Book of John, it says in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was made flesh. That Word becoming flesh was Jesus born incarnate through Mary? He needed a vessel so he could take on this human form. God coming in the form of a babe as Jesus and then showing us how to live life and be reconciled to God. Which is why the cross at Calvary weighs so important, because it was really him taking on the sins and the ownership of things that we did to fail him every single day of our lives. And because of his death, burial and resurrection, we are forgiven. And the manifestation of that is that we were able to be reconciled to God in a right relationship, and then we're forgiven. But the most critical thing that Jesus did and continues to do is to show us how to love God with all our heart, mind and strength and to love each other as we should love ourselves. And yes, there's this thing that we call enemy. And he even teaches us how to love and pray for our enemies. Now, does that mean we put up with people bombing us and attacking us because of our faith? No. There is warfare. And Jesus already predicted there would be wars and rumors of wars. That's where we are now. But the beauty of this relationship that we have with God is that he's all about his kingdom. And it's time for mankind, his creation, to understand. Well, we don't need to look to the left, we don't need to look to the right. We need to look towards God as He told Joshua. When Joshua took over from Moses, remember what he said before Joshua was actually taking the people into the promised land? He said, don't look to the left, don't look to the right, but meditate and pray on my word day and night, and follow me. Well, Jesus did the Same thing with all his disciples and all of us who follow Him. Now. He says, don't look there. Don't look there. Don't look at all the distractions. I'm the way, the truth, and the life. And I'm that light that shines in darkness. I'm that salt on the earth. And then he talked about on the sermon of the mouth, being poor in spirit, being humble. You know, I. I see that.
Unknown
See, you know what I love about you? I'm sorry to interrupt.
Richard Tate
It's okay.
Unknown
But people use God all the time in business and to look good in public and all that. It's like when you talk about God, you glow. When I talk about God, I cry.
Richard Tate
And that's good, too. That's glowing. You're crying because you know that we're loved unconditionally. And then in coming to know him as that, that means we're surrendering something.
Unknown
I cry because I'm certain.
Richard Tate
Yes. And you're crying because you're certain and you're grateful and you're thankful. Give me a moment. I might get something straight.
Unknown
I'm a legit moron. So, yeah, okay. I'm thrilled. It's like, thank you. It's like I told you, like, they're all taking that action and they're all going to lose. You know why? The same reason there's no devil. Do you know why that is? Because God doesn't create games or a system where he loses. That makes no sense to me.
Richard Tate
So let me. Let me go to this doctrinally then, so that my, my. My friends are saying, well, Richard said there's no devil. So mankind's problems with God didn't start just here on Earth.
Unknown
Started with Eve.
Richard Tate
No, you have to go all the way back. So four. We got a 4E. Yeah. So there. There are wonderful books called the Bible, 66 chapters, 66 books from Genesis, Revelation. If you go to Genesis, before mankind sinned, Adam and Eve in the garden, there was also a war going on in Heaven.
Unknown
Really?
Richard Tate
And when you read Genesis, you'll see that when God said, let us make man in our image, who's the us? It's God, the Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit. God in three. That's the mystery of the triune God, the Trinity. But God also had angels. Michael, Gabriel, Lucifer. Lucifer was this beautiful angel who was over all of the music. He was the praise king in heaven. And the one sin that captured him was pride. Lucifer saw himself and saw himself as being greater than God and more beautiful than God. That's where sin started because that's where the war started. There was a heavenly warfare going on and it broke out and it visited us here on earth.
Unknown
I did not know that.
Richard Tate
And that's why when you see in the garden, when Satan goes after Eve to beguile her and seduce her, entice her, when he uses the same word of God that God is, you can remember God said, there is a tree in the garden that you must never eat of, the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And Lucifer tricked her by saying, did God really say that? It's the same thing that happens to us now. Did God really say, you shouldn't do this or do that? Does he really mean that? And then he twists the words. She bit the apple, Adam bit the apple. They both fell under this sin. And dispersing they did was they had knowledge of good and evil. And what did they do?
Unknown
Put on clothes.
Richard Tate
Put on clothes to hide. What do we do when we sin and we know that we're sin, we're convicted and we try to hide rather than coming to God, say, father, forgive me for I've sinned and what will he do? Forgive you?
Unknown
Yeah, every time.
Richard Tate
Every time.
Unknown
I go through that.
Richard Tate
So my point is, when you look back and say, oh, so there is a malevolent force, a sinister force that wants to wipe out all mankind. Why do you think we have wars? You think God's causing that? We like to blame God for the wars.
Unknown
I never blame God for the wars, but I think God.
Richard Tate
But let's face it, there are people who blame him for warfare.
Unknown
There are people that. Yeah, but there's. That's why education is so important.
Richard Tate
And that's why we just had a nice little lesson about the existence of a devil. It's a real reality. And I, as a follower of Jesus Christ, as a Christian who loves God and loves mankind and would never lift a finger to hurt anyone, and if I do, and if I have to, all those that I've offended and hurt, please forgive me. I'm sorry, I love you. Let's make amends. And we don't do that so well in society, do we?
Unknown
Now it's considered immasculine, especially in today's world. I don't look at it that way. If I'm wrong about something, I immediately make the correction. When I talk, I talk with authority and sometimes people just go ahead and do what I just said. But that wasn't what I meant. What I meant is I can't help the way I talk. But okay, But I'm inviting a conversation.
Richard Tate
Yeah.
Unknown
I want you to beat up that idea. I want you to tell me your best thinking. And it just, you know.
Richard Tate
You know, and sometimes, Richard, when we talk, and I think that's why I'm always sensitive to where people are, because I don't know what they've been through.
Unknown
Right.
Richard Tate
I don't know what they're going through.
Unknown
Well, you're a better man than I am.
Richard Tate
No, no, no, no, no. My point is, we both have that same affinity and love for people. We have different ways of talking it, but that's the different makeup that we have. God didn't make us all, you know, cookie cutters. Richard's this way, Kelly's this. Nowhere. We're all different. I love that unique aspect of life. You know, if you look at the 12 disciples who walk with Jesus, all of them were a ragtag crew. All of them, every last one of them had something, had some flaw. And Jesus took 12 men and changed the whole world. Well, women were there, too. Let's. Let's not forget that. So. But most of the apostles were those 12 men, and one of them betrayed him.
Unknown
We can talk. Who's the guy who was a Peter?
Richard Tate
Paul.
Unknown
Which one?
Richard Tate
Peter was the disciple.
Unknown
Who is the one that wasn't loyal?
Richard Tate
Judas.
Unknown
Judas Judas Iscariot. You know, that sounds too much like Jew. I don't like. I don't like that. That feel good to me.
Richard Tate
No, that. That's your trip.
Unknown
Listen, we can talk about this all day long, but I want to move on.
Richard Tate
Yeah, don't. Don't get me started. Because I'll talk about God all day long.
Unknown
All day long. All day long. And you know what's funny? A lot of people have turned this off already, and that's cool.
Richard Tate
I think a lot of people will turn into. Because I think a lot of people are hungry and thirsty for something more than just what's passe. And there's always a freshness and newness to how we express ourselves.
Unknown
We should really talk every day. I'm so negative and you're so positive. I mean, the only thing I try.
Richard Tate
To talk to you.
Unknown
No, but the only thing that's a problem with that is I feel like one bad apple spoils a whole barrel.
Richard Tate
Not true.
Unknown
And I don't want to. I mean, I'm gonna get better, but by very definition, you're gonna get worse.
Richard Tate
Nope, not going to happen.
Unknown
All right, well, good luck with that.
Richard Tate
Not going to happen.
Unknown
You've interviewed so many fascinating people. Who is Your favorite and why?
Richard Tate
Oh, wow. That's a great question.
Unknown
Thank you.
Richard Tate
It's hard to just say one person. There's Denzel Washington.
Unknown
Wow.
Richard Tate
Denzel was just amazing. I remember the first time I interviewed Denzel was at the Boys and Girls Club, Member of the Year. And they pick one. One person out of all these great young people. And I. And I was rushed because he was rushed. We did this at the National Press Club in Washington, and it's a big affair. They're feeded before members of Congress. And then the Boys and Girls Club goes to the National. Denzel is there, Ashanti is there, and some other celebrities. And Denzel is the chairperson for the Boys and Girls Club. And make a long story short, he was tight on time. He spoke briefly. We were waiting to interview him. Gwen Ifill, God bless her. Gwen Ifill, who's no longer with us, interviewed him first, and she went a little long. Of course, she was Gwen Ifill. She could take us as long as she wanted to. And then I was being told, denzel has to leave. He's going to be going to the White House to sit down with President Obama. And this was Obama's first year in office. And I said, I just need five minutes. And Denzel heard me talking to the person who was throwing some interference and shade on it. No, you can't do it. We've got to get him. You know, tight schedule, tight schedule. And Denzel said, did Kelly say he can do this in five minutes? And I said, yes. He said, come on, my man. We sat down in five minutes. He unpacked the story about how the Boys and Girls Club revolutionized his life because he didn't really have. I mean, his father was around, but not really as close to him as his coach was in the Boys and Girls Club. And it put him on a pathway to where he is today. And. And I thanked him for five minutes. I said, I'm true to my word. He said, my man. And he went on to see the President. I went on with this great story called beyond the Dream, because it was about Denzel accomplishing his American dream. But then what do you do with it? And what he does, he shares it with the world. He's helped so many young boys and girls. And then we've had two different reviews following that. And each time, it's always been a. A breath of fresh air to sit down and talk to a man about who's sincere about his faith, sincere about his ability to use what he's accomplished and share with others to Help them. He's done a number of things that it would take a. A book to write it all. So I would say he was one of my favorites.
Unknown
Feels to me like he has a humility about him.
Richard Tate
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Unknown
But he knows who he is.
Richard Tate
He knows exactly who he is.
Unknown
And, you know, but he's elegant about it. And I was at a Laker game, and I was sitting with my girlfriend, and I was. I walked right past him, and I'm looking at him and I'm starstruck.
Richard Tate
Yeah.
Unknown
And normally, because I've treated everyone who's anyone. Right. I'm not embarrassed to talk to anybody. That man. I was afraid. I was literally afraid to bother. First of all, I think he was with his son, if I'm not mistaken. Okay. I don't remember. And he was just having his personal time, and I don't do that. Right. But if I'm honest about it, I was afraid.
Richard Tate
Yeah, yeah. You know, I. Look, I can't say that based on those interviews that I've had with him, it gives me any right to say that I know him personally. But I can tell you that what I glean from those interviews and hit the story that he shares about his life, it should be a value to any person around the world. That's the kind of impact that he's had and the kind of influence that he's had. I think another great interview that I had was with mothers who lost loved ones.
Unknown
With mothers who lost loved ones.
Richard Tate
I talked to a group of.
Unknown
How do you do that without falling apart? I can't do it.
Richard Tate
Well, you do.
Unknown
When I. When I. When we do those things and we've done it, like, three times, four times, it takes three hours.
Richard Tate
Yeah.
Unknown
And we cut it down to 25, 30 minutes because it's unwrapped.
Richard Tate
Yeah. Well, you do lose it when you talk to them, the mothers of young men who have been killed because of gang violence or crime. And they're saying that we've gotta be the mothers that lift up our communities, and we've gotta be strong enough to take care of the future. And those moms stand in solidarity against violence of any kind. I'm speaking mostly about black mothers who were in inner city neighborhoods and saw their children gunned down or heard about it and then had to respond to it. And. And you see their resilience, and you see their perseverance, and you see their heartbreak. And in the midst of the pain, they are still efforting to reach out, touch other people, to say, let's not do this. Let's find a better way so that other women like us will not grieve over a child being lost before they've even reached the age of 21.
Unknown
The strength of these women who have lost their babies is. I don't even have the words, because if that happened to me, I think I would die that day just of a broken heart. I believe it as my greatest fear. It's why I came back, because of that fentanyl issue. I felt like if I didn't come back and deal with this because I have small children, I'd be punished.
Richard Tate
Yeah.
Unknown
And that's not how he works. But I couldn't risk it. I understand.
Richard Tate
I understand.
Unknown
Like, that's not faith. It is.
Richard Tate
I'm just.
Unknown
I love you.
Richard Tate
In the midst of their pain, it's too much. In the midst of their heartbreak. Yeah, it's. That's why I love that. Beatitude. Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. And they've shown that. I'll tell you one other story that. That really comes to mind. In December of 1999, I was invited to Benin, West Africa, to be present for a reconciliation development conference. And the president of Benin, Matthew Caracou, and the president of Ghana, Gerald Rollins, they assembled everybody related to the transatlantic slave trade. Now, I bring that up because it's. It's history, it's historical. And I. I went there not knowing what to expect. And they. I was there for two weeks, and they. They took us along the slave route to see how this slave trade was developed. And the astonishing. The astonishing aspect was that they were saying, through this education that we received by going through the very diabolical trade, I said, we didn't initiate the slave trade, but we perpetuated by selling our own into captivity. And we didn't sell our feeble, we didn't sell our sick. We sold our best.
Unknown
How the hell did that happen?
Richard Tate
Well, if you look at the history of the transatlantic slave trade, a lot of this happened because of the Portuguese, the Dutch, and England and other countries going into Africa looking for the raw materials that were there. And they looked at the people and said, well, there's good raw material. And they traded their trinkets on the boats with kings who said, yeah, take them, and sold them into captivity. Being complicit with it, not perpetuating. Being complicit with it. Then it was also part of tribal factions that went on in Africa. How they started breaking down the warfare and capturing people and saying, okay. Instead of holding them as prisoners. We'll release them to slave traders and slave merchants without belaboring and going through all the history of that transatlantic slave trade, which was a diabolical and fiendish deed, and that not only impacted America, but also impacted South America and the UK and other countries. The bottom line is that when Caricou, Matthew Caricou, the president of Benin, and Gerald Rollins, when they stood before the people to. To apologize, it was Caricou who said, now this is going to get biblical again. He said, I want to say this fiendish D that our ancestors entered into was demonic, and it destroyed our diaspora. And I want to apologize to you in the name of Jesus Christ. I covered that story, and it was an apology that literally shook a nation. Because what they did, which was brilliant, they invited descendants of all the stakeholders, the slave merchants, the slave traders, the victims themselves. And they did this in a way of saying, we need to reconcile our differences to understand that we are one together. We need to become one new man by being transformed not by the culture, but by the renewing of our mind. And it was a powerful moment that I will never forget.
Unknown
You said transatlantic trade. Is that a slave trade?
Richard Tate
Slave trade is.
Unknown
Is that what people refer to? Because I've never heard it like that. I just thought they were taking black people and putting them on boats, putting them in chains and bringing them here. The ones that didn't die or get sick. Now, is that the same.
Richard Tate
Same thing as a mother's time.
Unknown
58 years old. It's the first time I ever heard.
Richard Tate
That's why these stories matter. And for me to be right there in the room where it happened, it was. Was moving. And there are still people working towards letting that story be told and to heal from that. Look, America is a great nation. Let's make no bones about it. But we do have a birth defect. And our birth defect is how we treat each other based on what we've done with Native Americans and African Americans. Slavery. But birth defect doesn't mean you throw out the baby with the bathwater. It means you work to reconcile those differences, past, present, and future. So we come together as truly one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Which means we learn how to be our brother's keeper and not our brother's killer.
Unknown
I'm so bummed you just brought this up for me. I'm so bummed that we don't say the Pledge of Allegiance in every school.
Richard Tate
We used to.
Unknown
I can't imagine. And that's why you have these kids? Death to America. Okay? No, the best is Death to America. And it's the whole trans community with the. With the rainbows. And it's like, dude, they would lob your head off in two seconds before, like, as you're leaving the plane, right? And I think that comes in part from, look, I learned to love my country because I stand up every day as a kid and said the Pledge of Allegiance. You know, my kid doesn't do that. So we're at the Laker game, okay? And the Pledge of Allegiance comes on. And I turn to look at the flag, okay? Put my left hand behind my back, my right hand here. And I'm quiet, and I look around, and he's sitting. I go, get up. Left hand behind your back, right hand here. I'll explain in a minute. Just look up there. And I explained it to him, right? That matters. Why would that matter any less than a Palestinian giving birth? And the first thing they teach their children is kill the Jews, hate the Jews, the river into the sea. If that works, then the other works. No.
Richard Tate
So this is part of the problems that we have in our world today. A miseducation, a misinformation and a deception. And we are living in an age of deception. You were saying the Pledge of Allegiance when we said that in school. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. But before we said the Pledge of Allegiance, as I remember, we bowed our heads to pray.
Unknown
I. I didn't do that.
Richard Tate
We prayed in school.
Unknown
You're older than me.
Richard Tate
I'm older than you.
Unknown
Yeah.
Richard Tate
And we prayed in school. And then we say the Pledge of Allegiance. Well, you know, we've taken prayer out of schools. We've taken the Pledge of Allegiance out of schools. And we wonder why we have educated fools from uneducated schools. Well, we. We. We have a lot to be concerned about when it comes to our education in America. My mother, again. Getting back to June, this. This lady was amazing. I wish you could have met her, Richard. She was a remarkable lady.
Unknown
I would have loved to meet your mother. Man, your mother sounds like the most impressive woman in the world. When you were that story, like, I was. I was contracting. I. I don't know how to explain it.
Richard Tate
I. I've lived it so long now. And you never get used to it because you keep thinking, mom went through all that for me. I need to get my act together. But Mom Was always concerned about my education and, and what she did. She. I was in Washington, D.C. at the time. I was going to public school. And she said, don't like the element that's there. She took me out of that and put me in Catholic school. And then I finished high school, going to Catholic school, and I was looking at a college to attend Oral Roberts, and I went to Oral Roberts University.
Unknown
I prepared. I don't always do it, but I did it this time.
Richard Tate
And. And true to. True to their motto, you know, they. They taught me something. Taught me something about me. I didn't. I didn't grasp it initially. It took me a while to. To mature into this process. I was a grown man and gone through so many different things, but I remembered what they taught me. And. And it was different because we went to. To college to study our academics, but also to study our faith. And we made no bones about it. It's just who we are. And to this day, the university students from there, and look, they're not perfect. None of us are. But they still go to where the light is dim, to show the light to a fallen world. And they do it academically, spiritually, physically, because it's a whole person concept where you're educated mind, body and soul. There are a lot of great universities in the country. I just happen to believe that Christian universities do well. In fact, if you look at Harvard. Harvard began as a Christian institution.
Unknown
Yeah, well, now they're garbage. Hey, let me ask you a question. I wouldn't let my kid go to Harvard if her life depended on it. My kid got into Harvard. She's going to Vanderbilt. Okay. Or smu. Okay. Somewhere where they got their head on right. Somewhere in the South.
Richard Tate
Many people are doing that now.
Unknown
He's so great. I love him. Do you know. Okay, rant starts now. Okay.
Richard Tate
The reason.
Unknown
The reason I love him so much is because.
Richard Tate
Love who? Trump. Okay, sorry.
Unknown
President Trump. The reason I love what he's doing here is because he don't even have an ear for this. He's like, no way. Oh, you're supporting terrorism. You're aiding. You're giving aid and comfort to terrorism. Okay, which one of you here is not a citizen? Great. Out. Okay. The rest of you guys. Yeah, no problem. Administration. Chancellor, do me a favor. Fix this thing right? Well, you know, I can't with this free, free ideas and all this nonsense. He's like, hey, no problem. You get no money. Wait a minute. I got to sue you now. What do you sue me for? You don't get the money. There is no money for you. Zero. Nothing. And they're like, huh, good for you, man. That guy, you know, it's funny, this guy must want to light himself on fire being with all the people in his way and blocking him here and giving him grief there, you know? What about the vaccine? Do you remember when he did the vaccine? It's one of the most heroic things he's ever done, by the way. Takes 15, 20 years to do a vaccine. He did it nine months. And I can, I promise you, it went down something like this. I'm sorry, Mr. President. Okay. It takes 15 to 20 years. We have to go through all these trials. We have to make certain we don't hurt anybody. He's like, hey, I'm the President. Go do it. If you can't do it, go to HR and get your work, your walking papers. And he wouldn't say that. He'd say, you're fired. Because that's what he does. But I love that, okay? I can't help it. I'm not perfect. I mean, I just, I, I, it's a work in progress. I just love it. And I know that's the way it happened. It happened like, yeah, dude, that's great. I'm the President and you're not. Go do what I asked or hit the road. Right? And there was. Right. And then it, it happened. I just love.
Richard Tate
So I've had, I've had the, the honor and the pleasure of reporting on a lot of different presidents.
Unknown
I want to hear it. I want to hear how it went with Trump. I'm obsessed with it. But I'm not going to interrupt you and I'm going to let you do your thing because I can't stop running my mouth.
Richard Tate
I've had the pleasure of interviewing President Trump in the past when that was during COVID It was about an eight minute interview, and we were talking about all the problems that had been going on stemming from COVID And I realized I was interviewing the Commander in Chief, the President of the United States. And for me, it wasn't a gotcha moment. It was a conversation, right? I wanted to have a conversation with the President of the United States. I was then working. I was hosting a show called the Kelly Wright show, and also anchoring the World News Tonight with my former colleague, Naira Huck. But this is specifically. This was with the Black News Channel. I had just left Fox News. So there I was, and I looking at the President. I'm remembering how I used to report on him as a young Reporter in New York City 30 years prior to that interview. And, and I just said, you know, a lot of people are. Are so ready to pounce and attack. I just want to hear from the president himself what his goals were, what his. What his strategy was, and, And. And hear from him. And I did. And that, I think, was a really good moment wherein there was an exchange of a conversation rather than me trying to attack or get some brownie points for myself and say, oh, the Kelly took the president to tat. No, I wanted to take the president to the American people and voice what he's trying to do. I asked him questions about COVID I asked him questions about the. What do we do to help America and how do we help. I was at. At the time, because of where I was working, the Black News channel. I said, Mr. President, how do you reach out to Americans of color? Latino, Hispanic, African American? And he explained himself, and of course, he did a lot of great work for HBCUs, historically black colleges and Universities. And he was making wholesale changes in terms of how the black community saw itself and treated itself. And then beyond that, he was also talking about all of America and trying to stand up against other nations coming against America. So I left the interview feeling like, okay, we talked. We had a conversation, and no one was hurt. If anything, people gleaned some information and comfort, or if they disliked it, they could ridicule me saying, oh, you didn't do a good job. You didn't. You didn't sling arrows at them.
Unknown
Right?
Richard Tate
And sometimes being a reporter, that's. That's not always your job.
Unknown
It feels like it is, man.
Richard Tate
It feels sometimes your job as a reporter is to get information and let the American people decide.
Unknown
You're older. No, you're talking about. No, no, no. We're talking about Nightline when we were kids.
Richard Tate
Let the American people decide. You could ask tough questions. For example there. I remember when he wanted to send National Guard troops into Portland, right? So, Mr. President, he's actually considering Portland and Chicago. And I said, Mr. President, you know, I know that you want to quell some of the unrest that's going on in places like Portland and Chicago. I've talked to violence interrupters. They're on the ground in Chicago trying to talk to people to mediate the violence. Have you talked to them? Why not consider talking to them first before sending troops in? And he said, well, I have talked to them, and I've considered talking to them again. But when it comes to Portland, he went on with what his plans were Right. I'm not the President of the United States. He is.
Unknown
Right.
Richard Tate
I'm not going to put words in his mouth. Let him say what's going on.
Unknown
That you're a unicorn.
Richard Tate
Not throwing rocks at anyone or shade on anyone. If anything, I, I myself, I think I'm sometimes guilty, of course, when I'm working in my own capacity with the Kelly Wright show or America's Hope, I am given to, not only to not always being a journalist, but sometimes sharing my. My feelings and, and my empathies and my sympathies and my opinions about things. America's Hope was a show that I designed and created to look at the divide that we have in America politically on faith and on. On religion and on. Oh, it's just sorts of things socioeconomic and, and you've been a guest of that show several times. And, and thank you for that. Because we talked about something that. Fentanyl.
Unknown
Yep. Thank you. Thank you for that. We.
Richard Tate
Well, thank you for doing what you do. Because people were not getting it. People were assuming that Fentanyl was just a drug that affected drug addicts. Yes. And not innocent Americans who took a.
Unknown
Substance that was laced, that they. For that they've got straight A's in school and they're out at a club. Club on the weekend that they didn't even want to go to. But, you know, socially, they want to fit in, so they go and somebody gives them a pill and they take it, or they say, this is too much. I'll take half. Right. And then they're slumped over their. Their steering wheel, dead.
Richard Tate
And I kept looking at these stories and. And, you know, I had talked to you years before while working at Fox, and in fact, we met out here and talked about opioids then. And then after I started during the.
Unknown
The whole Purdue pharma thing.
Richard Tate
That's right. That's right. And then after that, years later, I see the scourge of Fentanyl taking place and I need to give Richard a call again.
Unknown
Yeah.
Richard Tate
And so we talked about it, but the way we talked about it, we. We pulled off the layers and the covers to say, no, this is happening to everyday America. Black, white, it did not matter.
Unknown
No killing everybody. I recently had HGTV star Izzy Batress on the podcast. He opened up for the first time about his long battle with addiction and how something came over him when he walked into a church and broke down at the altar. That moment sparked his redemption and recovery. Have you seen faith lead to that kind of transformation? I have given to me well, I've.
Richard Tate
Seen it in my own life. I wasn't hooked on drugs or I've seen it myself, hooked on just a frivolous lifestyle and had a personal encounter with Christ after praying and you could feel the rush of tears streaming down your face and you realize you had an encounter with something stronger than you and it was God. I've seen it in the stories that I've told with people who, like him, had been hooked on drugs and had no other way of getting through it. I interviewed, I went to a church in, I want to get this right, Norfolk, Virginia, and I was doing a story on how the drug trade was causing a lot of violence and causing a lot of young men and women to die on the streets of Norfolk, Virginia. And I went into this church and they were doing what we call praise and worship. Those are beautiful songs that lift up the spirit. And a young man stood up and said, I'm not supposed to be here today. And he stood before the congregation and said, because I was dealing in drugs and not leaving that trade, I was shot nine times. And here I am standing before you, only by the grace of God who spared my life. And I'm grateful to Jesus that I can have this story with you today. And when you hear stories like that, you start interviewing people like that. Yes, this is what faith does. Faith compels you to surrender your all to Christ because there's no place else to go you can go to. And you've seen this. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not schooling you or fooling you. You've seen this yourself.
Unknown
No, I see it every day where.
Richard Tate
People go to, to rehab or they go to prison or they, you know, like one man who was ultimately pardoned by President Trump when he was serving in his first term, guy named John Ponder arrested an armed robbery serial criminal. The FBI agent who arrested him said, there's something different about you, John. I'm going to work with you. Well, it turns out the FBI agent like me, placed all of his faith in Christ. Now, he didn't stop him from doing his job as being, you know, a hard nose FBI agent, but he said, I'm going to work with you. I'm going to mentor you. John Ponder in prison, gave his life to Jesus Christ, started rethinking and reevaluating his life. Based on his newfound faith in Jesus Christ, John Ponder created a program called Hope for Prisoners. Today, Hope for Prisoners is a model program for the entire state of Nevada and the men and women who go through this program because it re educates them and it partners corrections officers or the arresting officers with inmates who are now serving their time. And they mentor each other through Bible study, through studying God, and they come out transformed. Because what John also did. He's out of prison now, by the way. What he also did, he started saying, well, in addition to showing them faith in Christ, we also have to apply again, getting back to the whole man concept. We have to apply. Some academics need a trade. They just can't come out and say, hey, I'm born again. I'm free. Hire me. No, they have to come out skilled. So he. They applied the skills there. The governor.
Unknown
Vocational.
Richard Tate
Vocational skills. The governor of Nevada provided John with an entire empty warehouse to create schools so that these young men and women, incarcerated, now having their faith being tested and tried and becoming and proven to be true, are also getting their education. So when they come, John Ponder, you should have him as a guest.
Unknown
No, no, no. I will definitely. I'll do anything you tell me to do. But tell me about the music. Tell me about how you got into music.
Richard Tate
Okay. That's June. Because while June wanted to be a psychiatrist, my grandmother wanted her to be a professional singer. Because mom was a singer. She also played piano. I don't really play piano. I play at it. I learned a lot of things from her. I wish I had learned piano from her, but we have her piano in my home, so I've written a couple of songs on her piano, and professionals have come in and said, okay, let's take this and make it this way. And I've been very happy with that. But, yeah, that's. That's where the music came from. From my mother. And then I always wanted to do some albums, so I went out and did some things and been blessed to do that. And I really haven't devoted the time to music like I should because of my career and in news. But what I love about singing is that it. It brings out this hope from my heart to believe in the power of the good news, operating in a bad news world. And that's why I still love to sing. And life's not over yet. Maybe I'll just lay down the news and just pick up. Music is singing. I mean, so a man that you know, Mike Huckabee, who's now the ambassador to Israel for the United States.
Unknown
Thank God. That was a great.
Richard Tate
Yeah, great move.
Unknown
Great choice.
Richard Tate
So, Mike, I'm sorry. Ambassador Huckabee has always said, I love to see you in Las Vegas.
Unknown
So funny.
Richard Tate
Why would I go there? He said because I used to sing on his show all the time when we were at Fox together. We started a great friendship there and, and even with his show at tbn, had the pleasure of performing with him and hope to do something again with him in Israel. But yeah, he's always encouraging me, I'd love to see you in Vegas. I don't know if Vegas is for me, but I do know that music is still in me, so. So I want to share that music because it's music breaks down all the barriers.
Unknown
Yeah.
Richard Tate
Just like you played Kirk Whalen right there, man. It just broke it and brought it home.
Unknown
Didn't that feel good?
Richard Tate
You're all that I need I don't need fortune or fame God, you're all that I need that just melted me. I see why you, you like going to that song. That's what music does.
Unknown
Yeah.
Richard Tate
And that's why I love singing the music that I do. And Quincy Jones, the late, great Quincy Jones once made a song called what good is a song if it can't inspire? If a song cannot lift you higher, then it's not good enough to sing.
Unknown
Right.
Richard Tate
And, you know, like, I know you talk to a lot of artists yourself and, and even, even, even the hip hop artists and rap artists when they, when they get the, the heart right and the lyrics right.
Unknown
They're the best.
Richard Tate
They're the best.
Unknown
They're the best.
Richard Tate
They're the best.
Unknown
These kids are the best.
Richard Tate
Yeah.
Unknown
That I've had here.
Richard Tate
Yeah.
Unknown
Right. Some of you won't collaborate, but I don't know why you're withholding. That's part of you. It's part of the kids. You know, they don't want to have things on their page. Understand? You just don't understand.
Richard Tate
Look, the Generation Z and the generation to come after that, look at my grandson, my youngest grandson and, and, and my newborn granddaughter. And I'm thinking they've got quite a world to inherit and how do we prepare them for it? We got to sit down and talk to them. Can't let them go their own way and, and, and drift away like vegetables. Yeah, we gotta, we gotta be right there, eye to eye, nose to nose and saying, I love you right where you are. And you can't change that.
Unknown
I tell my kids all the time, I said, all you got to do is fog a mirror and I'll be fine. I mean, that's not true. Sorry.
Richard Tate
Huh.
Unknown
But that's what I tell them. All right. What are you doing next?
Richard Tate
Well, I'M you know, I'm. I'm the senior White House correspondent for CBN News.
Unknown
Are you really?
Richard Tate
Keeps me pretty busy.
Unknown
You are.
Richard Tate
I.
Unknown
You're the senior.
Richard Tate
I didn't serve well since November 5, the day of the election. That's. I jumped right in and put my show America's Hope on hiatus in January, but still plan to have that show as well.
Unknown
But allowed to use your cell phone in the.
Richard Tate
I can't use my cell phone in the briefing.
Unknown
You can't.
Richard Tate
I can text. Oh, you can, but I can't pick up the phone.
Unknown
No, no, no, you can't. Like, you can't make a deal.
Richard Tate
I don't think Caroline Levitt would love seeing me.
Unknown
Right? No, no, no. But can you take a quick selfie in there? I just turn around and go, I've done that.
Richard Tate
Okay, I'll do that for you.
Unknown
Rich. Rich, I'm in the White House.
Richard Tate
I'll do that.
Unknown
So cool. I want to go to the White House. Don't. No, no, I'm not asking you. I'm just saying eventually, one day I want to go to the White House.
Richard Tate
When the Oval Office briefings take place, as the president with the head of state or just with other people there, he might be signing executive orders and he starts talking to or asking the reporters ask him questions. And you've seen him, when he doesn't like a particular question, he'll bristle with it and he'll, you know, say, oh, you're fake news. Or, you know, and he'll actually talk about the particular reporter. And I think that's, you know, that's give and take. If you look at politics in the past, that happened before, except because of social media and the digital platforms and, and news being so immediate, people see it live.
Unknown
Reagan did that, didn't he?
Richard Tate
Well, he did. And, but other presidents in the past have, have talked to reporters in that kind of way. And the White House Correspondents association has been around for 100 years. And, and it started that way because of what was going on in terms of the White House not giving a lot of opportunity for reporters to ask questions of then President Woodrow Wilson. So it's really, it's a give and take between the media and the White House. But I think it can also be a relationship wherein we, we provide information that's, that's important for the American people to know. And, and I think the White House can then answer those questions and have a coming to the table to find what I always like to find common ground for the common Good and the greater good of our nation. And that comes from information and information that's based on truth. And yes, there will be challenges because the president is human. The executive branch is operated by humans, the judicial branch, the legislative branch. All of us are in this, trying to make this country call the United States of America work. And that requires give and take. That requires hearing from all sides and then making decisions based on wisdom, knowledge, and understanding. And, yes, sometimes there's a pointing of fingers. Politics is not an easy thing to deal with. And I grew up not liking politics and still don't like politics.
Unknown
I love.
Richard Tate
But I do love where we are as a people. And what I mean by that is that I love the fact that we're able to talk to each other, question each other, and then hopefully find a meeting of the minds to find that common ground for the greater good of the American people. And then I. I also want to remind America, don't forget what you've been blessed with. You are literally. America is literally the greatest nation on the planet. Do we have our issues? Yes. Will we get through these issues? Yes. Do we have adversaries who would like to destroy us from within? You better believe it. And we have to learn how as getting back to what I said before. We have to learn how to be one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And it's a tough, tough thing to do sometimes. But we are, I believe, a beacon of hope. When I travel around the world, there are some people saying, what's going on in America? We're concerned about America. Well, why are you concerned about America? Because you're the beacon of hope. You're the light that shines on a hill. Don't try to hide it. Keep shining it. We need you.
Unknown
Right. Hey, do you know a better way to end this podcast?
Richard Tate
I'm gonna end the podcast in prayer.
Unknown
Okay.
Richard Tate
Do it, my Jewish brother.
Unknown
Do it, baby. Who.
Richard Tate
Who back baptized.
Unknown
Okay, first of all, my friends beat me up for that, but when I checked in, okay, I'm like, are we okay with this?
Richard Tate
Yeah.
Unknown
We're Jew, right? And this is what I heard. Well, would I have brought her to you if it wasn't? Okay, go.
Richard Tate
And Jesus being a Jewish carpenter, a rabbi, and an architect. He's an architect, too, who designed everything for us to do.
Unknown
Oh, that's funny. I didn't see that coming. All right, pray us out.
Richard Tate
Lord, I thank you for this opportunity to have spoken with my good friend Richard Tate, asked you bless this podcast. I ask that you bless this this free flowing, informative, in depth interview and Lord, I pray that through everything that's been said that you get the glory. I thank you for salvation. I thank you for what you're doing for this nation and for the world and for those who are lost and don't know you. I pray that they find you the way we know you to be a brother who sticks closer than a brother, our friend and we love you with all our heart, might and strength. In Jesus name, Amen.
Unknown
Thank you God. I love you. Amen. See you next Tuesday. That was really good.
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Title: The Secret to Making Every Moment Count With Kelly Wright
Host/Author: Richard Taite
Guest: Kelly Wright, Senior White House Correspondent for CBN News
Release Date: June 17, 2025
The episode opens with Kelly Wright joining Richard Tate on the "We're Out of Time" podcast. Richard shares a profound reflection on life's journey, emphasizing the importance of what happens "in the dash"—the time between birth and death. He states:
“The good, the bad, the ugly, and the beautiful happens in that dash. The question is, what do we do with all of those elements of living?” (00:04)
Richard delves into his personal history, recounting the traumatic experience of his mother, June Lorraine Overton Wright, who was sexually assaulted by a pastor when Richard was 17 years old. This event profoundly impacted his upbringing and his understanding of resilience and purpose. He narrates:
“She never did become that psychiatrist, but she went on to become a high school counselor and saved a lot of kids who had been broken.” (12:09)
Richard discusses the role of faith in overcoming adversity. He highlights the importance of being a "beacon of hope" and shares insights on how faith can transform lives. He reflects on his mother's strength and his own journey towards faith, emphasizing that:
“We are all born for a purpose and a reason. ... we are a beacon of hope. When I travel around the world, there are some people saying, what's going on in America? We're concerned about America. Well, why are you concerned about America? Because you're the beacon of hope.” (06:13 - 06:38)
The conversation shifts to theological discussions about the existence of evil, the nature of God, and the importance of forgiveness and reconciliation. Richard explains the biblical perspective on the war in Heaven and the origins of sin, stating:
“There is a real reality. And I, as a follower of Jesus Christ, as a Christian who loves God and loves mankind ... will never lift a finger to hurt anyone.” (21:14)
Richard shares a poignant story from December 1999, where he attended a reconciliation conference in Benin, West Africa. Here, leaders from Benin and Ghana apologized for their ancestors' roles in the transatlantic slave trade. He recounts:
“Matthew Caracou, the president of Benin, said, I want to say this fiendish D that our ancestors entered into was demonic, and it destroyed our diaspora. And I want to apologize to you in the name of Jesus Christ.” (33:06 - 35:35)
This experience underscored the importance of acknowledging historical wrongs to heal and move forward as one unified nation.
The discussion shifts focus to the fentanyl crisis, highlighting its devastating impact on families across America. Richard emphasizes that fentanyl doesn't just affect drug addicts but innocent Americans from all walks of life. He shares insights from interviews and personal observations:
“This is happening to everyday America. Black, white, it did not matter.” (50:27)
Kelly Wright reinforces the idea by sharing stories of individuals whose lives were transformed through faith and support, such as HGTV star Izzy Batress and John Ponder, a former armed robber who founded "Hope for Prisoners."
“I've seen this in my own life... a personal encounter with Christ after praying and you could feel the rush of tears streaming down your face and you realize you had an encounter with something stronger than you and it was God.” (51:42 - 53:43)
Richard discusses his passion for music, attributing it to his mother's influence. He shares how music has been a medium for expressing hope and breaking down barriers. He reminisces about performing with Mike Huckabee and the impact of inspirational songs on his life.
“Quincy Jones once made a song called what good is a song if it can't inspire? If a song cannot lift you higher, then it's not good enough to sing.” (59:04)
Additionally, Richard touches upon the importance of education, particularly Christian education, in shaping individuals' minds, bodies, and souls. He praises the holistic approach of institutions like Oral Roberts University, where he studied.
“If you look at the Generation Z and the generation to come after that... we gotta be right there, eye to eye, nose to nose and saying, I love you right where you are.” (59:26 - 60:07)
As the Senior White House Correspondent for CBN News, Richard shares his experiences interviewing President Trump during the COVID-19 pandemic. He emphasizes the importance of having meaningful conversations rather than confrontational interviews, aiming to provide clarity and information to the American people.
“I wanted to have a conversation with the President of the United States... I wanted to hear from the president himself what his goals were, what his strategy was.” (62:10 - 64:03)
Richard reflects on the dynamic between the media and the White House, advocating for transparency and truthful information exchange to serve the greater good of the nation.
In the final segment, Richard reiterates America's role as a beacon of hope despite its internal challenges. He urges listeners to embrace unity and work towards reconciliation, emphasizing:
“You are literally America is literally the greatest nation on the planet. Do we have our issues? Yes. Will we get through these issues? Yes. ... we are a beacon of hope. You're the light that shines on a hill.” (64:03 - 65:32)
The episode concludes with a heartfelt prayer led by Kelly Wright, seeking blessings for the podcast and the broader mission of spreading hope and transformation.
“Lord, I thank you for this opportunity to have spoken with my good friend Richard Tate... I pray that through everything that's been said that you get the glory.” (66:21 - 67:03)
Richard Tate (00:04):
“The good, the bad, the ugly, and the beautiful happens in that dash. The question is, what do we do with all of those elements of living?”
Richard Tate (12:09):
“She never did become that psychiatrist, but she went on to become a high school counselor and saved a lot of kids who had been broken.”
Richard Tate (06:13):
“We are all born for a purpose and a reason... we are a beacon of hope.”
Richard Tate (21:14):
“There is a real reality. And I, as a follower of Jesus Christ, as a Christian who loves God and loves mankind ... will never lift a finger to hurt anyone.”
Richard Tate (33:06):
“Matthew Caracou, the president of Benin, said, I want to say this fiendish D that our ancestors entered into was demonic, and it destroyed our diaspora. And I want to apologize to you in the name of Jesus Christ.”
Richard Tate (50:27):
“This is happening to everyday America. Black, white, it did not matter.”
Richard Tate (59:04):
“Quincy Jones once made a song called what good is a song if it can't inspire? If a song cannot lift you higher, then it's not good enough to sing.”
Richard Tate (64:03):
“You are literally America is literally the greatest nation on the planet. Do we have our issues? Yes. Will we get through these issues? Yes. ... we are a beacon of hope. You're the light that shines on a hill.”
In this deeply personal and insightful episode, Richard Tate and Kelly Wright explore themes of faith, resilience, historical reconciliation, and the pressing issue of the fentanyl crisis. Through personal anecdotes, theological discussions, and reflections on national challenges, the conversation underscores the importance of hope, purpose, and unity in navigating the complexities of modern life. The episode serves as a compelling reminder of the power of faith and community in overcoming adversity and making every moment count.