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Dr. Annie Andrews
That's what our most recent polling shows, that even amongst a sample that where Trump beat Harris by 18 points. I am neck and neck with all of these Republicans. They are ready for something different. They're ready for a new generation of leadership. They're ready for someone who will just tell it plainly like it is, who won't tie themselves to a national party.
Jane Coston
I'm Jane Coston and this is what a day. A show appreciating how co President Donald Trump was today. See, last week he gave a big speech about how China had infiltrated our elections and created a, quote, election security nightmare. But today he made it clear during an Oval Office press conference that actually no worries, China, all good. Mr. President, are you planning on putting any pressure or consequences on China for what you announced about them meddling in the 2020 election?
Donald Trump
Well, we're going to talk to him about it. It took place a long time ago. I think China is maybe a little bit different today than it was then. But look, they do things and we do things to them. I'll be honest, we do things to them too. It's not a one way street, but we'll be talking to them.
Jane Coston
Hmm. Maybe that's because he doesn't actually care about China at all. He just wants to pass the Save America act to make it harder for Americans to vote for, not Republicans. Just a thought. On today's show we talk to South Carolina's Democratic candidate for the U.S. senate, Dr. Annie Andrews, about taking on the GOP and potentially running against Lindsey Graham's sister. Before we dive into that sibling succession, here's what we're following today. Tuesday, July 21st.
Dr. Annie Andrews
There are no signs that Iran is ready to stop fighting. So, so what is the plan? Is the plan to just keep bombing until they give up?
Donald Trump
There are no signs. Why? Do you know something that I don't know?
Dr. Annie Andrews
Well, they continue to attack our allies.
Donald Trump
You know what the dialogue is behind the scenes, that they want to meet desperately to try and end it because they're getting decimated. You don't get that when you listen to your fake station. But you don't know. You don't know anything normal.
Jane Coston
President Trump hosted the President of Lebanon in the Oval Office today and expressed a dim view on possible talks to end his war with Iran. Trump told reporters in part, quote, until they're ready to meet in a meaningful way, we have no interest. Meanwhile, Lebanon's President Joseph Aoun was there to push his own agenda. Long term calm. After months of war between Israel and the Iran backed Hezbollah militant group. Israeli troops currently still occupy large swaths of southern Lebanon. Aoun wants Israel to withdraw and also wants support for the Lebanese military to assert full control in areas where Hezbollah militants had held sway. During their meeting, Trump called Aoun handsome and pledged to help Lebanon, quote a lot without, of course, any concrete details. During that Oval Office meeting, Trump also answered questions about the 50% tariffs he imposed on Monday night on most Canadian goods. Yes, we've made it back to tariffs last night.
Dr. Annie Andrews
The Canada tariffs.
Donald Trump
1.
Dr. Annie Andrews
Are those a response to the wildfires in Canada?
Donald Trump
No, no, no, that's separate. We're looking at that separately.
Jane Coston
And what is there anything Canada the
Donald Trump
only response to the way they've treated our farmers and our people. Canada has been very, very tough on us over the years, for many years, and no other president has done anything about it. I love Canada. I love the people of Canada, many friends that live in Canada.
Jane Coston
Listen, I know tariffs sound bad, but at least Trump loves Canada. That helps, right? No. Yeah, I didn't think so. The tariffs are set to go into effect in 30 days. That leaves time for negotiations because as we all know, Trump does not always follow through on his announced tax hikes on impecc. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said in a statement that Canada is prepared to negotiate, get out of the heat and into a vote center because Arizona state primary elections are today. Arizona Republicans are choosing a nominee to challenge Democratic Gov. Katie Hobbs in November. Two businessmen are in the race for the Republican gubernatorial nomination, as well as two Arizona congressmen, David Schweikart and Andy Biggs, who has the key endorsement from Trump and Turning Point Action. Republicans are also picking nominees for secretary of state and attorney general as the GOP searches for a path back to power in a battleground state it used to dominate. You may want to sit down before you hear this. Donald Trump appears to be granting pardons and clemency based on political connections rather than need. I know, I'm shocked, too. That news comes from the New York Times, which reported today that Trump denied nearly 6,000 clemency petitions from people who had followed the stated Justice Department policies for requesting pardons rather than the 250 pardons the wall Street Journal reported the administration was exploring granting in honor of America's birthday. Trump instead pardoned 11 men, several of whom had been convicted of crimes related to the Clean Air Act, a critical piece of environmental legislation passed in 1970. Another pardon recipient, a fraudster who has donated heavily to the GOP and Republican candidates, including a million dollars to multiple committees supporting Trump's 2024 campaign for the presidency. Again, shocking. And that's the news. Let's talk about the Senate race in South Carolina. Lindsey Graham died a little over a week ago, and last Tuesday, his younger sister, Darlene Graham, was sworn in to fill a seat. Given that she has absolutely no experience in politics, pretty much everyone, including the chair of the South Carolina Republican Party, thought that Darlene Graham was just going to be filling in her late brother's seat until his term ended up. But on Friday, President Trump posted on Truth Social that he wants her to run to be the new Republican nominee in August's special primary election. And on Monday, she generously agreed. In an interview with Fox News Sean Hannity, Darlene Graham made the case for a candidacy. The case is she will do what Trump wants. Really, the meeting with the president, it was such an honor. It was comfortable. And, you know, I told him two things. I said, I can tell you this about me. I will work hard, and I'm loyal.
Donald Trump
So I bet he liked the second part better.
Jane Coston
Yeah, maybe.
Dr. Annie Andrews
Yeah.
Jane Coston
Suffice it to say, lots of people, including Republicans, are not happy about this. So many of them jumped into the race anyway. Trump's endorsement be damned. Whoever wins the Republican nomination will be facing my guest today, Dr. Annie Andrews. She's a pediatrician who has focused her campaign not on Donald Trump, but on but on the health of everyday South Carolinians. Annie, welcome to Water Day.
Dr. Annie Andrews
Thank you. So happy to be here.
Jane Coston
So just over a week ago, your opponent for the Senate, Lindsey Graham, passed away unexpectedly. Graham was a huge part of South Carolina politics. I was struck by you mentioned in an article that he was first elected to Congress when you were in eighth grade.
Dr. Annie Andrews
That's right.
Jane Coston
What was your reaction when you found out he passed away?
Dr. Annie Andrews
I mean, it was a shocking development for everyone in South Carolina. It is a profound loss. I'm a physician. I'm a mom. I understand that it's a reminder that life is fragile. But, you know, I still think that this change, this enormous change in my race hasn't quite sunk in yet.
Jane Coston
Right.
Dr. Annie Andrews
You know, it's changing who I'm running against, but not who I'm running for. And it hasn't really changed our messaging. And we're just ready to move forward against whoever my opponent becomes.
Jane Coston
Well, to that point. In a June 30 poll, I'm looking at this right now, you were only trailing Graham by three points, which I think is indicative of the environment you're running in. People want change, but now, after more than a year of campaigning against Graham, you suddenly have a good chance of running against his sister, Darlene Graham. Both of you have never held public office. But until about a week ago, when she was sworn in to replace her brother in the Senate, she'd never done anything in politics. But she has powerful name recognition, the support of Donald Trump, and a potential sympathy vote. How do you run against a candidate like that?
Dr. Annie Andrews
Well, the good news is right now I'm not running against her. Three other Republicans are currently running against her in this GOP primary, and so they're already beating her up. They're all gonna beat each other up. It's gonna be a South Carolina GOP civil war for the next three, four, five weeks, and I get to just continue talking to the general electorate. I'm running a general election campaign right now while they are running a far right, crazy MAGA Republican primary in South Carolina.
Jane Coston
I have to ask, what did you think of Trump saying this week that he wanted run for that full term after last week, this being like she's just gonna sit in his seat until the end of what would have been Lindsey Graham's term?
Dr. Annie Andrews
Yeah, I think most people thought she was gonna be a placeholder senator, and it was a nice gesture to show Donald Trump's respect for the late Senator Lindsey Graham. It threw us all for a loop when he decided to back her. I think it's important to recognize that no one knows where she stands on literally any issue. She just put up a flash page, a splash page, excuse me, for her campaign that doesn't have any policy positions. She was on Hann. She didn't talk about any policy positions. She has done great work in South Carolina supporting blind South Carolinians finding employment. But does she support the Medicaid budget cuts that are going to devastate access to health care for blind South Carolinians? Does she support the federal Department of Education cuts that will devastate, you know, grant funding to help people who teach blind children how to read? We don't know where she stands yet. Republicans in Washington D.C. are lining up behind her and endorsing her. And this is exactly what's wrong with American politics today.
Jane Coston
Yeah, I was really struck by the GOP whip saying that she's already been a great senator. And I'm like, it's been six days. So as Senator, Lindsey Graham was really good at bringing federal dollars back to South Carolina. Earlier this year, for example, he secured nearly $150 million for infrastructure and workplace development projects in the state. But I don't live in South Carolina and what I know of Lindsey Graham was his eagle eye focus on foreign policy. And you've said that he quote abandoned South Carolinians to do quote, the bidding of Donald Trump. In your view, what has South Carolina been missing in the Senate?
Dr. Annie Andrews
We have been wasting one whole US Senate seat on someone who woke up every day and thought about everything but South Carolina. First he talked about Israel more than he ever talked about South Carolina. I was talking to voters in Cherokee county this weekend and they said we, we never saw him. We saw him on Fox News on the weekend. We never saw him here in South Carolina. Every US State has two senators and we wasted a whole seat on someone who was not fighting for South Carolina. And the major sentiment I hear from voters is they're just disappointed in who he became when he was a John McCain style Republican. He had a lot of respect from independents in South Carolina, center right Republicans, center left Democrats. And he lost all of that because he tied himself so tightly to Donald Trump. But we are looking forward. We were looking about what's possible for South Carolina's future. I'm running a campaign about what is possible in the future. I think this is an opportunity for South Carolina to move forward together and that's what we're focused on.
Jane Coston
For more on the far right, crazy MAGA Republican primary in the Palmetto State, stick around. We'll get back to my conversation with Annie Andrews. But if you like the show, make sure to subscribe. Leave a five star review on Spotify and Apple podcasts, watch us on YouTube and share with your friends. More to come after some ads this episode of WHAT a Day is brought to you by Wildgrain. Wild Grain is the first baked from frozen subscription box for sourdough breads, artisanal pastries and fresh pastas. Plus all items conveniently bake in 25 minutes or less. Unlike many store bought options, Wild Grain uses simple ingredients you can pronounce in a slow fermentation process that can be easier on your belly and richer in nutrients and antioxidants. There's no preservatives and no shortcuts. Walgreens boxes are fully customizable. In addition to their variety box, they have a gluten free box, vegan box and a protein box. Plus, Wildgrain makes the best chocolate chip cookies I've ever had. And I love chocolate chip cookies. There's nothing like having an artisan bakery in your freezer. Now is the best time to stay in and enjoy comforting homemade meals with Wild Grain. I highly recommend giving Wildgrain a try. Right now, Wild Grain is offering our listeners $30 off your first box plus free Croissants for Life when you go to wildgrain.com wad to start your subscription today. That's $30 off your first box and free Croissants for Life when YOU visit wildgrain.com wad or you can use promo code WAD at checkout. What a Day is brought to you by HomeServe. Here's the thing about the home disasters that sneak up and bite you. Most of them cost more than a car repair. HomeServe offers plans starting at $4.99 a month. With HomeServe, when something goes wrong, you're not scrambling, you're just making one call. HomeServe is like a subscription for your home. For as little as $4.99 a month, they've got your back. Regular homeowners insurance usually doesn't cover a lot of the day to day wear and tear, plumbing failures, H Vac breakdowns, electrical issues. It's super simple. Choose a plan for your needs and budget and when something on your plan goes wrong, just call their 24.7hotline to start the repair process. With nearly 4.5 million customers, a 4.7 out of 5 rating on Trustpilot and an A Better Business Bureau rating, they're the real deal. Your cooling system isn't going to warn you before it quits. H VAC breakdowns, burned out motors. These repairs hit hardest when it's 95 degrees and you need the AC the most. Don't wait until you're sweating it out to figure out you're not covered. I think all the time about all the things that could go wrong at home, from a plumbing disaster to a light switch that decides to stop working. But then I remembered that HomeServe would be there for me every step of the way. Your next costly home repair is already coming. Act now and get protected with a plan through HomeServe for 50% less your first year, go to HomeServe.com wad to find the plan that's right for you. That's HomeServe.com wad for 50% less savings compared to renewal price void in Florida. Let's get back to my conversation with Annie Andrews. South Carolina went for Trump in 2024. So when you're talking to voters, including voters who supported Trump, which includes a lot of independents who go back and forth, what is it that you're hearing about that are their main concerns? What did they want from Trump and what are they looking for from you?
Dr. Annie Andrews
I mean, what they wanted from Trump, I believe, is what Trump campaigned on, which is lowering grocery prices and no more foreign wars. But here we are with grocery prices sky high and we've entered this deeply irresponsible, unnecessary, billion dollar a day war with Iran. They also want an end to the corruption in Washington D.C. they want to end partisan gerrymandering. They want to see limits passed. They want to see members of Congress not able to trade individual stocks or not able to become lobbyists. They're so tired of self enriching politicians who run on term limits and then they run for term after term after term and they get corrupted by the DC machine. They want someone who stays in touch with South Carolinians. I get asked all the time, how do we know, Annie, that you're not gonna go up to D.C. and just sell out and disappear? And number one, I say if I could be bought, I wouldn't be a pediatrician, I'd be some other kind of doctor that makes a lot more money than a pediatrician. And number two, I think the worst part of the journey will be the hours I have to spend in Senate committee meetings in dc. What I want to do is be connected to the voters, listen to voters, talk to voters, develop solutions for voters, and then implement those solutions.
Jane Coston
I think so often when Democrats run in red states, there's a question of why would Republicans vote for a Democrat? So what makes you think that voters who see that you're a Democrat, who you're gonna be supported by Democrats, you're looking for support from Democrats nationwide. Why should they and why would they support you?
Dr. Annie Andrews
Because first and foremost, I'm a pediatrician. Secondly, I'm a mom of three public school kids, and then third, I'm a Democrat. I'm not your average Democrat. Our polling suggests that I'm overperforming a generic Democrat by 25 points with non Maga Republicans and 19 points with independents. And it's because I come at this from a totally different lived experience working on the front lines of American's broken healthcare system. When people see me, they see first a doctor and a mom who actually wants to solve some problems, not someone who's been plotting her entire life for a career in politics, looking for an advantage to run for office. I mean, it makes no objective sense for me to even be running for the US Senate right now. I have a career that I love, that I'm good at. I have three very busy school age children But I am so deeply passionate about fighting for people in South Carolina, about delivering results, that I felt like I had no choice but to jump in this race. And so when people see me, when they hear from me, they understand that I'm not your average Democrat. I'm not your average politician. And I come at this from a different perspective. And I am just, just a pragmatic problem solver and someone who will actually do the job.
Jane Coston
Since Graham's passing, you've had a huge head start on the seat. And you were just saying, basically, for the next four or five weeks, you get to watch a right wing donnybrook to challenge for the right to face you. But you're a Democrat, and South Carolina is a red state. We've seen Georgia become a solidly purple state. Is there a chance South Carolina can do the same?
Dr. Annie Andrews
Absolutely. And that's what our polling showed before he passed away, and that's what our most recent polling shows, that even amongst a sample that where Trump beat Harris by 18 points. I am neck and neck with all of these Republicans. They are ready for something different. They're ready for a new generation of leadership. They're ready for someone who will just tell it plainly like it is, who won't tie themselves to a national party. I will be a senator for South Carolinians. So, yes, absolutely. South Carolina is on a path to follow in the footsteps of Georgia and what's been happening in North Carolina, there no reason it cannot happen in South Carolina. And we've been building a statewide campaign to meet the needs of the voters and to deliver an election victory on November 3rd.
Jane Coston
If you are elected on November 3rd and you are sworn into office in January, what's your first point of focus?
Dr. Annie Andrews
I'll be elected as the first elected female senator from South Carolina. And my most urgent action will be to stop the impending Medicaid budget cuts. Medicaid is the backbone of healthcare In South Carolina. 15 counties without an OB GYN. We have health clinics that are closing their doors because of these impending Medicaid budget cuts. And they must be stopped or it will further devastate access to healthcare for so many people who live in rural South Carolina.
Jane Coston
Annie, thank you so much for joining me.
Dr. Annie Andrews
Thank you for having me.
Jane Coston
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Episode: “A Woman Could Be South Carolina's Next Senator”
Date: July 21, 2026
Host: Jane Coaston
Guest: Dr. Annie Andrews, Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in South Carolina
This episode dives into the shifting political landscape in South Carolina following the sudden death of longtime Senator Lindsey Graham. Host Jane Coaston speaks with Dr. Annie Andrews, Democratic Senate candidate, about her path in a state long dominated by Republicans, the unprecedented scenario of Lindsey Graham’s sister, Darlene Graham, being elevated to the race, and what South Carolina voters want from their next senator. The episode also touches on the national context—foreign policy, Trump’s erratic China policy, and the current climate of partisanship and political opportunism.
Trump’s Position on China and Election Security:
Lebanon and Iran War Developments:
Canadian Tariffs:
Partisan Clemency Decisions:
Voters' Concerns and What They Want:
Her Approach as a Democrat in a Red State:
Is South Carolina Becoming Georgia?:
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |---------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00–01:40 | Dr. Annie Andrews' polling insights and national news intro | | 01:40–03:30 | Trump on Iran, Lebanon, and Canadian tariffs | | 03:30–06:20 | Trump’s clemency, Arizona primary news, preview of Senate race | | 06:25–11:15 | Interview starts: Annie Andrews on Graham’s death, Darlene’s candidacy, SC politics | | 11:15–14:26 | SC Senate race: what voters want, Annie’s appeal to non-Democrats | | 14:26–18:08 | More on Annie’s background, polling, and the state’s political transformation | | 18:08–18:44 | Annie’s first priorities if elected |
Dr. Annie Andrews’ Senate campaign reflects a rare window of opportunity for Democrats in a historically red state. With Republican infighting and voter fatigue from entrenched political families and D.C. players, South Carolina may become a true battleground. If elected, Andrews pledges to focus on bread-and-butter issues like healthcare—her own field—while striving to reconnect representation in Washington to communities on the ground.