Bondi's DOJ Fails Again

Summary

Podcast Summary: What A Day

Episode: Bondi's DOJ Fails Again

Date: February 12, 2026
Host: Jane Coaston
Main Guest: Representative Jason Crow (D-CO)

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Overview

This episode focuses on the growing concerns about the Department of Justice under Attorney General Pam Bondi, highlighting its recent failures to secure indictments against Democratic lawmakers and its controversial handling of the Jeffrey Epstein investigation. Host Jane Coaston digs into how these DOJ missteps reflect broader trends of political retaliation, erosion of democratic norms, and lack of accountability at the highest levels. The episode also covers shifting economic data from Trump's first year in office, the ongoing use of tariffs, military leadership concerns, and more.

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Key Discussion Points

1. DOJ's Failed Prosecutions and Political Retaliation

• Opening Context:
  Jane Coaston opens by referencing Attorney General Pam Bondi’s failed attempt to celebrate the Trump administration's economic record, which is overshadowed by persistent questioning about the DOJ’s ineffectiveness and handling of high-profile cases, notably Jeffrey Epstein (00:00–01:34).
• Failed Indictment Attempt:
  The DOJ unsuccessfully sought an indictment against six Democratic members of Congress (including Rep. Jason Crow) for a video reminding military personnel of their legal obligation to refuse illegal orders (01:34–03:17).
  • Trump characterized their actions as “seditious behavior, punishable by death” and called for investigations.
  • The grand jury refused to indict—another DOJ miss in a pattern of failed attempts to prosecute perceived enemies of the Trump administration.

Notable Quote

“Donald Trump’s definition of sedition or treason is somebody not doing what he wants them to do...He thinks that weaponizing the Justice Department against his political opponents is going to get us to back down from obligation, he is dead wrong.”
– Rep. Jason Crow (03:41–04:20)

2. DOJ Accountability and Political Resistance

• Call for Evidence and Accountability:
  Crow's legal team demands the DOJ preserve all evidence related to the failed indictment, aiming to impose consequences for the abuse of prosecutorial power (04:20–05:23).
• Crow’s Personal Commitment:
  Rep. Crow highlights his military service and vows not to retreat in the face of intimidation or political bullying, framing the administration’s actions as a broader threat to democracy (05:23–06:50).

Memorable Exchange

“I’m taking names, I’m making lists. And people cannot outrun ultimate accountability. The tide is turning in this country. Americans are speaking up. They’re standing out. They’re retaking our democracy.”
— Rep. Jason Crow (04:36–05:23)

3. Pam Bondi’s DOJ, Epstein, and Misplaced Priorities

• Bondi’s Testimony and Distraction Tactics:
  Bondi’s congressional testimony is criticized for dodging questions about Epstein by boasting about the stock market, indicating misplaced DOJ priorities (06:50–07:27).

• Crow on DOJ and Epstein:
  Crow calls out Bondi as a “defender of pedophiles and sexual abusers,” pushing for release of the full Epstein files, emphasizing that victims and America deserve transparency and justice (07:27–08:25).

Quote

“Pam Bondi's place in history is going to be one of the greatest defenders of pedophiles and sexual abusers in the history of the world…America deserves names. And more important than anything, the victims deserve names. And accountability.”
— Rep. Jason Crow (07:27–08:15)

4. The Possibility of Impeachment

• Democratic Calls for Bondi’s Removal:
  Some House Democrats urge Bondi’s resignation and even mention impeachment. Crow supports using all accountability tools, noting his experience as an impeachment prosecutor (08:25–09:05).

5. Protecting Troops and Military Leadership Concerns

• On US Troops and Trump’s Leadership:
  Crow, drawing on his service, accuses Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth of violating the principles of servant leadership and being self-serving (09:05–11:26).
  • He denounces military “adventurism” and vows to reinstate Congressional authority over war.

Notable Analogy

“When I was a paratrooper, the leader of the unit jumps first because courage is contagious…[Trump administration officials] push us out of the plane first and then don’t jump at all. They eat first and leave nothing for us. This is a self-serving, corrupt administration.”
— Rep. Jason Crow (09:29–10:18)

6. How to Protect Troops and Democracy

• Grassroots Leadership and Renewal:
  Crow points to a new generation rising up across the country to defend democratic values—“red areas, blue areas, rich areas, poor areas”—remarking that Americans are increasingly fed up with the current administration (11:59–13:18).

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [01:34] DOJ fails to indict six lawmakers over “seditious” video.
• [03:41] Rep. Crow responds to DOJ’s failure and Trump’s accusations.
• [04:36] Crow on pursuit of accountability for weaponized prosecutions.
• [06:50] Pam Bondi’s testimony and focus on stock market over Epstein case.
• [07:27] Crow calls out Bondi’s complicity in Epstein cover-up.
• [08:33] Crow supports potential impeachment if Democrats retake House.
• [09:29] Crow critiques Trump-era military leadership.
• [11:59] Crow on American grassroots and the spirit of resistance.

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Additional Headlines Covered

• Trump’s Tariffs:
  House votes to rescind tariffs placed on Canada; a sign of waning Trump influence, with 6 House Republicans joining Democrats (16:28–17:42).
• Revised Jobs Data:
  Trump’s first presidential year saw almost no employment growth, contradicting his administration’s claims of economic success (17:42–18:25).
• El Paso Airspace Closure:
  Sudden closure linked to anti-drone activity by Customs and Border Protection; local leaders report no prior warning (18:25–19:15).
• Trump-Netanyahu Meeting:
  Private White House exchange provided little news—Trump claims “nothing definitive reached” except an insistence on continuing Iran negotiations (19:28–20:10).

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Notable Quotes

• On DOJ’s effectiveness:
  “The effectiveness of Bondi’s DOJ has been, thankfully, questionable at best.”
  — Jane Coaston (01:34)
• On military leadership:
  “This president doesn’t see a problem he doesn’t think he can bomb his way out of.”
  — Rep. Jason Crow (11:05)
• On national attitude:
  “The rising tide of Americans who are standing and at great personal costs, in some instances, showing courage to take to the streets...we're gonna take our country back.”
  — Rep. Jason Crow (12:30–13:18)

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Tone & Style Reflections

Jane Coaston maintains a wry, incisive, and urgent tone, blending humor with a serious look at the erosion of democratic norms. Jason Crow’s language is combative, personal, and determined, providing a sense of urgency and resistance.

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Conclusion

This episode of What a Day details an administration increasingly willing to use federal power against political opposition—and a determined counteroffensive from those targeted. Crow’s testimony underscores the stakes, both for individual lawmakers and for broader American civil-military relations. The episode closes with developments on tariffs, jobs, and global politics, all contextualizing a turbulent, transformative period in American governance.

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Transcript

[Jane Coston]

Foreign. February 12th. I'm Jane Coston, and this is what a day. The show that says RIP to millennial heartthrob and the pride of the West Canaan coyotes, James Van Der Beek, who passed away from cancer Wednesday at the age of 48. On today's show, revised data shows renowned businessmen President Donald Trump's first year in office wasn't actually good for the job market. And Trump says he had a very good meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, even though from Trump's own report, not much happened. Sounds like it could have been an email. But let's start with the Department of Justice. It must be hard to be Attorney General Pam Bondi. All he wanted to do on Wednesday was celebrate the economic achievements of the Trump administration. But those mean Democrats just kept asking about some convicted sex offender named, what was it? Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, well, talking points are talking points.

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[Jane Coston]

Yes. That was Bondi crashing out in front of the House Judiciary Committee after being asked about the DOJ's investigation into Epstein's co conspirators. The effectiveness of Bondi's DOJ has been, thankfully, questionable at best. Just Tuesday night, it fumbled yet another attempt to prosecute Trump's enemies. This time, it failed to get an indictment of the six Democratic members of Congress who posted a video in November reminding members of the Armed Services that they have an obligation to refuse illegal orders.

[Representative Jason Crow]

Like us, you all swore an oath.

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To protect and defend this Constitution.

[Representative Jason Crow]

Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.

[Jane Coston]

You can refuse illegal orders.

[Representative Jason Crow]

You must refuse illegal orders.

[Jane Coston]

Unsurprisingly, Trump freaked out after seeing the video, writing on Trusocial that it constituted seditious behavior punishable by death. The Pentagon announced soon after that it was investigating Arizona Democratic Senator Mark Kelly for appearing in the video. Then all six members of Congress who appeared in the video were notified by the FBI that they were being investigated. According to the New York Times, federal prosecutors wanted to indict the lawmakers for violating a statute. It threatens potential imprisonment or fines to anyone who might, quote, cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States. But as has been increasingly true over the last year or so, the DOJ couldn't get a grand jury to agree. Colorado Democratic Representative Jason Crow is one of the six lawmakers the DOJ investigated. We spoke about the failed indictment, Pam Bondi's congressional testimony, and how to protect U.S. troops from being targeted by the government they serve. Representative Crow, welcome to what a day.

[Representative Jason Crow]

Thanks for having me, Jane.

[Jane Coston]

Tuesday night, a grand jury refused to indict you and five of your colleagues for what was, according to President Trump, quote, seditious behavior. And I'm using air quotes to be clear, as in, you participated in a video reminding US Troops that they can and should disobey illegal orders. What do you think it says that the DOJ was not able to secure an indictment.

[Representative Jason Crow]

Well, Donald Trump's definition of sedition or treason is somebody not doing what he wants them to do. Right. He thinks he's a king. He thinks that his word is law, that he is above the law, and anybody that would dare question his authority or speak up or stand out of line for him is committing a grave sin. We're here to say that is not true, that nobody is above the law, that. That we are not going to be threatened, we're not going to be bullied, we're not going to be intimidated. And if he thinks that weaponizing the Justice Department against his political opponents is going to get us to back down from obligation, he is dead wrong and has another thing coming.

[Jane Coston]

I mean, to that point, the Trump administration has tried and failed to indict many of the president's perceived enemies. Your lawyer sent a letter Wednesday asking the U.S. attorney for D.C. jeanine Pirro, to preserve whatever evidence was presented in the effort to indict you and your colleagues. Why?

[Representative Jason Crow]

Well, why is. Because there have to be costs imposed on them. I'm not willing to sit back and just let them throw grenade after grenade at us and keep our head down and respond to them and be on defense all the time. That's not going to work. What they think is that they can bully and intimidate people and send a message to the country. My message to them is that not only is that not going to work, but we are gonna pursue justice and accountability against you. I'm taking names, I'm making lists. And people cannot outrun ultimate accountability. The tide is turning in this country. Americans are speaking up. They're standing out. They're retaking our democracy. We're gonna Stand with them. And we are not gonna back down.

[Jane Coston]

Do you expect the Department of Justice to continue to investigate you? I mean, I saw that Speaker Mike Johnson said basically that you were supposed to, quote, straighten up their act, which we're not even gonna get into, the Mike Johnson of it all. But do you expect this to continue to happen to you?

[Representative Jason Crow]

Well, Mike Johnson is a very sad case. Right. He has completely prostrated himself to the altar of Donald Trump. Sold out a long time ago to Donald Trump, which is unfortunate. That's his decision. But I can tell you what. I went to war three times for this country as an Army Ranger and a paratrooper. I took oaths to this country starting when I was a teenager. I've known people who have given their life for this nation. And if Speaker Johnson or Donald Trump or Pam Bondi or anybody else thinks that they're going to get me to back down from my obligation and my duty to the Constitution, the oath that I swore, then, yeah, they have something coming. So I'm not going to back down from that, regardless of where it's coming from. Because, let's be honest, this is about sending a larger message. They were trying to send a larger message to Americans that, hey, if members of Congress can't withstand the firestorm, if they can't withstand the pressure, why would we possibly speak up? So we're unwilling to allow them to send that message, which is why I'm going on the offensive here. And I will start doing everything possible to impose costs on people who are abusing process, violating the law, and turning their back on the constitution.

[Jane Coston]

You referenced U.S. attorney General Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi testified on the Hill Wednesday about the DOJ's handling of the Epstein files, the prosecutions of Minnesota protesters, and the failed indictments like yours. In one case, she responded to an actual question about the Epstein investigation by screaming about how the dow is over 50,000. I know you are not on the House Judiciary Committee, so you weren't at that hearing, but what does that say about Pam Bondi's and the DOJ's priorities right now that she's screaming about the Dow in response to an investigation into a convicted sex trafficker?

[Representative Jason Crow]

Yeah, well, Pam Bondi's place in history is going to be one of the greatest defenders of pedophiles and sexual abusers in the history of the world. That's what Pam Bondi will be known for. We have what is possibly one of the greatest sex abuse scandals in American history that goes to the very top of American Power in industry, in business, and in government. And we need names. America deserves names. And more important than anything, the victims deserve names. And accountability. And justice, the justice has been denied for far too long. And Pam Bondi is a part of the grand conspiracy to cover that up in doing so. Because guess what? Donald Trump, her major patron, is listed in the Epstein files over a million times.

[Jane Coston]

Right?

[Representative Jason Crow]

So there is rot that goes to the core of this administration, which is why we're battling hard for the release of those full files and for transparency.

[Jane Coston]

A few Democratic House members have called for Bondi to step down, and one even mentioned impeachment. Will you support that?

[Representative Jason Crow]

Well, I certainly think she should step down. And if we retake the House majority, I'm gonna pursue accountability in all of its forms. Impeachment is one of the tools for accountability that we have. It's an important tool in our toolkit and one that I won't hesitate to use. And I know a lot about impeachment because I was a prosecutor in Donald Trump's first impeachment trial in my first term in Congress. So I've impeached a president before, and I won't hesitate to use that tool if that's what's necessary. But right now, there are other tools that we have while we're in the minority, that we're going to relentlessly use.

[Jane Coston]

As you mentioned, you were a US Army Ranger and paratrooper. You served in both Iraq and Afghanistan. And I can't stop thinking about the same time all of this is happening. We have US Troops in Nigeria. We have US Troops in the Middle East. We have troops who are being placed in harm's way, and they are being led by Pete Higseth and Donald Trump. What are your concerns about the ways that the Trump administration is leading the US Military?

[Representative Jason Crow]

Well, you know, what I learned in my first days in the military when I was in boot camp is this idea of servant leadership, that the core of leadership is about being a servant of those that you lead. And it takes very simple forms. When I was a paratrooper, the leader of the unit jumps first because courage is contagious. And then people will follow. When you're out in the field, you're training, it's the middle of the night, and warm chow gets delivered. Your soldiers eat first, and only then, if there's food left, do you eat. And then you don't sleep until everybody else has slept and rested. That's servant leadership. And the Trump administration under Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump, that has been entirely turned on its head. They push us out of the plane first and then don't jump at all. They eat first and leave nothing for us. This is a self serving corrupt administration, probably the most corrupt administration in the history of America. And I am gravely concerned about Pete Hegseth complete incompetence as the head of our military. And that's why I am relentless about making sure that we protect our service members, that we don't abuse them, that they understand what their obligations were, which is why we filmed that video in the first instance, to make sure they understand what the law and the Constitution requires. And more than anything else. Also, one of the reasons I actually came to Congress is because I was sent to war three times. At least one of those to enrich oil executives. We spent 20 years, trillions of dollars, thousands of lives, decades of lost credibility on military adventurism. And working folks and working class Americans are done with it. I'm done with it. I'm over with the military adventurism. This president doesn't see a problem he doesn't think he can bomb his way out of. So I'm going to do everything possible to recapture congressional authority, to reinsert ourselves in matters of war, peace, and to install guardrails to Donald Trump's out of control use of our military.

[Jane Coston]

I want to go back to something you were just saying, which is talking about protecting our troops, both active and inactive. The government was not willing to protect you here. It literally tried to prosecute you for speaking the truth, a truth everybody knows. Like, that was the thing that really got me about your video is like, that's just basic information. And yet in the eyes of the Trump administration, it became sedition, which is punishable by death. So how can we, how can you protect our troops from the Trump administration when it's so clear that the only thing the Trump administration wants to do is protect Trump at all costs?

[Representative Jason Crow]

Yeah, this is about the American people. Right. What's so important here is actually less the story of what's happening in Congress and what's happening on Capitol Hill, and more the story of what's happening across America right now. So I'm traveling the country and I'm recruiting and finding the next generation of servant leaders who are stepping up to run for office, run for races, and to change the culture of Washington and to defeat the rot and the corruption of this administration. And what I'm seeing in cities and rural areas, red areas, blue areas, rich areas, poor areas, what I'm seeing is the American people are fed up with what this administration has served to them. They want change. And even in some of the deepest red areas of the country, they understand what's happening here and they're pushing back on it. So ultimately it's the rising tide of Americans who are standing and at great personal costs, in some instances, showing courage to take to the streets, to stand in the breach, to prevent abuses, to protect their neighbors, in the case of Alex Preddy and Renee Goode, to give their life to shed light on these abuses. It is an incredible story, a story of the courage of American people right now. And you know, we're gonna take our country back.

[Jane Coston]

Representative Crow, thank you so much for taking the time to join me.

[Representative Jason Crow]

Thank you.

[Jane Coston]

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[Jane Coston]

Else we're following today. Head of lines.

[Representative Jason Crow]

Tariffs are very important. The money we're taking, I'm taking in hundreds of billions of dollars in tariff money and we're going to start paying down debt. This country has never been so strong, militarily or any other way.

[Jane Coston]

That was Trump on Fox Business Tuesday night, discussing his favorite thing besides himself, tariffs. But on Wednesday, Trump's tariff regime got a symbolic but important telling off. The House voted to rescind the tariffs Trump placed on Canada last year under the authority of a, quote, national emergency. And while Trump will almost certainly veto the measure, it indicates a real shift against Trump's tariff powers. And he knows it. Before the vote Wednesday, Trump posted on Truth Social, quote, any Republican in the House or Senate that votes against tariffs will seriously suffer the consequences come election time, and that includes primaries. Still, six Republicans joined nearly all Democrats in supporting the measure. Want to hear even tougher news for Trump? For the last year, Speaker Mike Johnson has been blocking tariff disapproval measures. But on Tuesday, a group of House Republicans rebelled against Johnson, defeating a measure that would have kept the blockade going. According to cnn, that means Democrats can now go after all of Trump's tariffs. Good news for those penguins near Antarctica. US employers added a surprisingly strong 130,000 jobs in January and The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 4.3%, but the report on Wednesday included major revisions. According to the revised government data, the US Economy saw almost no employment growth during the first calendar year of Donald Trump's presidency. Only 181,000 jobs were added in 2025, down from 1.46 million during the final year of President Joe Biden's administration. Donald Trump Business Genius Strikes again.

[Representative Jason Crow]

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Soon as I learned about this, I immediately got on the phone with a number of different leaders, including local leadership, and what I can tell you with absolute certainty is that the FAA did not notify anyone locally.

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In a news conference, Texas Democratic Representative Veronica Escobar said local officials were kept in the dark when the airspace over El Paso, Texas was closed on Wednesday. According to sources who spoke with the ap, the sudden airspace closure stemmed from the Pentagon allowing Customs and Border Protection to fire off an anti drone laser earlier this week. The AP says that the move led the Federal Aviation Administration to clear the airspace to ensure commercial air safety. The airspace reopened hours after it was shuttered and commercial flights resumed. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said in a post on Twitter Wednesday that the airspace closed as the Defense Department and the FAA halted an incursion by cartel drones and that, quote, the threat has been neutralized. While drone incursions are not uncommon along the US Mexico border, maybe everyone should get on the same page about when they should shoot lasers. President Trump met privately with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House Wednesday for what appears to have been an anticlimactic get together. Netanyahu came and went without taking questions from reporters. His office said on Twitter that the pair talked about, quote, negotiations with Iran, Gaza and regional developments. And in a true social post, Trump wrote, quote, there was nothing definitive reached other than I insisted that negotiations with Iran continued to see whether or not a deal can be consummated. Consummated? I don't want to know. Trump also left us with this reminder. Last time Iran decided that they were better off not making a deal and they were hit with Midnight hammer that did not work well for them. Who doesn't love a thinly veiled threat amid trigger happy countries? And that's the news. Before we go this week on Runaway Country, Sarah Longwell from the Bulwark joins Alex Wagner to unpack the far reaching Epstein class. The rich, powerful and protected. If you're trying to make sense of who gets protected and why, this episode connects the dots. Check out Runaway country wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube. That's all for today. If you like the show, make sure you subscribe. Leave a review Shout out to the firefighters of Norwalk, Connecticut who rescued a swan from a frozen river on Tuesday and tell your friends to listen. And if you're into reading and not just about how it took about 30 minutes to free the swan from the ice and bring it to shore like me, Water Day is also a nightly newsletter. Check it out and [e-mail] subscribe I'm Jane Koston and according to the Associated Press, the swan appeared, quote, grateful for the rescue. Which, knowing swans, means it was like 20% less violent than usual. What a Day is a production of Crooked Media. It's recorded and mixed by Desmond Taylor. Our associate producer is Emily Foer. Our producer is Kaitlyn Plummer. Our video editor is Joseph Dutra. Our video producer is Johanna Case. We had production help today from Greg Walters and Matt Berg. Our senior producer is Erica Morrison and our senior Vice president of news and politics is Adrienne Hill. Our theme music is by Kyle Murdoch and Jordan Kanter. We had help today from the Associated Press. Our production staff is proudly unionized with the Writers Guild of America EAS. With VRBoCare. Help is always ready before, during and after your stay. We've planned for the plot twists, so support is always available because a great trip starts with peace of mind.

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