Can Jared Kushner Negotiate Peace And Still Make Money?

Summary

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What A Day – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Can Jared Kushner Negotiate Peace And Still Make Money?
Host: Jane Coaston
Date: April 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, host Jane Coaston dives into the perplexing and controversial role of Jared Kushner—as both private citizen and unofficial peace envoy—in current negotiations to end the U.S.–Iran war. The main focus: How can Kushner claim to be mediating peace while simultaneously managing billions of dollars in Middle Eastern investments, particularly with major interests in Saudi Arabia and other regional governments? Jane is joined by journalist Judd Leggam (author, Popular Information newsletter), who unpacks the labyrinthine conflicts of interest, the lack of accountability, and the unprecedented mixing of business and foreign policy at this level.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Kushner’s “Private Citizen” Role

• Jane questions why Kushner is leading peace negotiations when the White House insists he’s acting as a "private citizen."
• Kushner had previously stated in 2024 that he intended to stay out of politics and focus on his investment firm.

Notable Quote:

"At the same time, Kushner has also been soliciting funds from governments in the Middle east for his investment firm, which sure sounds like a conflict of interest to me. So, again, why the hell is this guy negotiating an end to the Iran war?"
– Jane Coaston (02:29)

2. The Rise—and Funding—of Affinity Partners

• Timeline
  • Kushner launches Affinity Partners almost immediately after leaving the White House (2021).
• Source of Capital
  • Over 99% of the firm's startup money comes from foreign, especially Gulf, sovereign wealth funds.
  • The Saudi Public Investment Fund contributed a massive $2 billion.
• Business Model
  • Kushner collects substantial annual management fees (~1.25%) and makes further profits from real estate and redevelopment deals across the region.

Notable Quote:

"The big bulk of that money, $2 billion, came from the Saudi Arabian sovereign wealth fund […] because he's got about 5 to 6 billion dollars under management at this point.”
– Judd Leggam (03:37-04:02)

3. Kushner’s White House Legacy: Relationship Building for Profit

• During Trump's first term, Kushner cultivated strong ties with Saudi officials, notably softening U.S. backlash after the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
• Leggam argues Kushner’s actions set the stage for his lucrative post-White House business.
• Saudi officials overruled their own advisory committee’s concerns about Kushner's lack of experience and high fees to approve the eventual $2B investment.

Notable Quote:

“The committee... said this is a bad idea. He has no experience, the fees are excessive, the risk is too high. And it was only when the leaders went in and overruled that committee that he got this money.”
– Judd Leggam (05:45-06:42)

4. Current and Active Conflicts of Interest

• Despite previously swearing off new investments to avoid conflicts, Kushner is now both back in the middle of high-stakes negotiations and seeking new foreign investments.
• Specific Case: New Gaza
  • Kushner sits on the Board of Peace overseeing plans to redevelop Gaza into a luxury area—exactly the region and type of deal his investment firm targets.
  • He holds stakes in related Israeli insurance companies.
• Leggam suggests that the entire economic redevelopment plan for Gaza appears tailored to benefit investors like Kushner, rather than local populations.

Notable Quote:

“He is on the Board of Peace. […] The conflict is that’s exactly the business that he is in. […] The whole plan is really geared, not around sort of a peace plan or something that would meet the needs of the people who used to be living there, but it does seem to be very specifically geared towards benefiting someone who has a lot of money to invest in expensive real estate projects.”
– Judd Leggam (08:07-09:24)

5. Media Attention & Public Accountability

• Much of Kushner’s alleged corruption and the clear conflicts at play are, according to Leggam, being ignored by mainstream media, which treats his diplomatic moves as unremarkable.
• The episode underscores the absurdity and dangers of having someone so financially entangled with foreign powers negotiating for American interests.
• Leggam reiterates the unique, unprecedented nature of the situation by comparison with past U.S. foreign policy negotiators.

Notable Quote:

"There's never been anything like this. You've never had someone, really, with any kind of income from a foreign government, much less tens and hundreds of millions of dollars.”
– Judd Leggam (11:02-11:47)

6. Legal Loopholes and the Lack of Oversight

• Leggam outlines the complex legal gray area Kushner operates in, which insulates him from normal disclosure and conflict of interest requirements.
• Unlike others (e.g., Steve Witkoff, co-negotiator), Kushner has so far avoided being classified as a government employee, dodging transparency laws and accountability.
• Efforts by watchdog groups to force disclosures have been ignored.

Notable Quote:

“If he were considered even a temporary government employee, which Elon Musk was considered... then there would be all sorts of requirements requiring him to disclose his financial interests.”
– Judd Leggam (12:09–13:16)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "Why the hell is this guy negotiating an end to the Iran war?" Jane’s blunt framing gives the conversation a sharp, skeptical edge. (02:29)
• "The whole plan is really geared...towards benefiting someone who has a lot of money to invest in expensive real estate projects." Leggam lays bare the self-interest at play. (09:14)
• "You've never had someone, really, with any kind of income from a foreign government, much less tens and hundreds of millions of dollars." Leggam emphasizes the unprecedented nature of Kushner's dual roles. (11:44)
• Jane’s sardonic after-interview sign-off: "I am not going to end the Iran war, but I also didn’t start the Iran war. If you’re OK with that, make sure to subscribe..." (13:21)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-------------|---------------------------------------------------| | 00:00–02:04 | Show open, Kushner’s return to diplomacy context | | 02:04–02:29 | Kushner’s on-the-record vow to avoid politics | | 03:10–13:16| In-depth Jane–Leggam interview: business, ethics, Gaza plan, legal issues, and accountability | | 13:21 | Interview wrap-up and signpost for listeners |

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Tone and Style

• Jane Coaston: Sharp, incredulous, and witty, frequently underlining the absurdity of the story with dry humor—e.g., joking about "private citizen" claims and referencing cultural moments.
• Judd Leggam: Direct, detailed, and critical, combining plainspoken explanations of complex financial arrangements with pointed reminders of what’s at stake for public accountability.

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Takeaway

The episode delivers a dense, critical examination of Jared Kushner’s multifaceted (and deeply conflicting) roles as both high-profile “private” peace negotiator and investor for foreign autocrats. It raises urgent questions about transparency, influence, and where American—and personal—interests begin and end when it comes to Trump world’s political players.

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For listeners who want to understand not just the news, but the tangled web behind it, this episode provides a masterclass in how money, power, and policy intersect in today’s Washington.

Transcript

[Jane Coaston]

It's Tuesday, April 28th. I'm Jane Coaston, and this is what a day. The show saluting an Alabama woman found not guilty of all misdemeanor charges after she was arrested at an October no Kings protest while wearing an inflatable penis costume and holding a sign reading no Dick Tater. She had been charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, as well as giving a false name to law enforcement because she told police her name was, quote, Aunt Tifa. Give it a second, you'll get it. On today's show, the man accused of attempting to assassinate President Donald Trump is charged. And King Charles visits Washington, D.C. the closest Trump will ever get to royalty, except for the Saudis. But let's start with Jared Kushner, Trump's son in law and maybe special envoy for peace. Kushner was supposed to be heading to Islamabad with special envoy Steve Witkoff this week to negotiate an end to the Iran war. But as we mentioned on the show yesterday, those plans were canceled. So instead, Iran's foreign minister was in Moscow Monday to discuss the war with Russian President Vladimir Putin. And the US Was reviewing a proposal from Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. But hang on a second. Why is Ivanka Trump's husband part of these talks? I'm guessing you may not know much about Jared Kushner. He's never run for office, but he served as a senior White House advisor in Trump's first term. Then, in 2021, Kushner left politics behind, forming an investment firm and raising a lot of money in the Middle East. And he seemed happy with that. In February 2024, he said he wasn't planning to get involved in politics again, no matter what happened with his father in law's campaign. Here he is speaking at Axios BFD Miami to Dan Primack.

[Jared Kushner]

Both my wife and myself are working in the White house, which is a 247 high stakes job. And so we've both really enjoyed the opportunity to be down here in Florida with the kids. And so right now, that's really where my commitment is, is to my investors, to my firm, to my employees, to my part. And that's what I'm planning to do.

[Dan Primack]

So is that a no? If he calls you on November, whatever. And says, I'd like you to come back? D.C. you say, thanks, but I'm good.

[Jared Kushner]

Yes.

[Jane Coaston]

And yet here we are, April 2026, and Kushner is busy trying to end Trump's war in Iran. But the White House told the Atlantic that Kushner is just acting as a, quote, private citizen. So I don't know what to tell you. At the same time, Kushner has also been soliciting funds from governments in the Middle east for his investment firm, which sure sounds like a conflict of interest to me. So, again, why the hell is this guy negotiating an end to the Iran war? For more, I spoke to Judd Leggam. He's the author of Popular Information, an independent newsletter dedicated to accountability journalism. Judd, welcome to Water Day.

[Judd Leggam]

Thanks for having me.

[Jane Coaston]

At the same time that Kushner has been acting as the so called Special Envoy for Peace, I'm using air quotes for people listening or a private citizen. Again, air quotes. He's been running his investment firm, Affinity Partners, which does a lot of business in the Middle East. Can you tell me about Affinity Partners? Like, when did it start, where did it come from, and what did it look like in between administrations? And what does it look like now?

[Judd Leggam]

Affinity Partners was started almost immediately after Kushner left the White House in 2021. At the end of Trump's first term, he raised money, over 99% of it, from foreign governments, from their sovereign wealth funds. The big bulk of that money, $2 billion, came from the Saudi Arabian sovereign wealth fund known as pif. And he has then been using that money to get involved in various investments, real estate deals, and he makes tens of millions of dollars, cumulatively hundreds of millions of dollars just in fees for managing this money because he's got about 5 to 6 billion dollars under management at this point.

[Jane Coaston]

Do we know if he was doing anything similar, attempting to profit from the Trump administration or from his positions when he was, for instance, negotiating the Solomon Accords during the first Trump administration.

[Judd Leggam]

I think now, looking back, you can see that he has leveraged the connections that he made during that first term to start Affinity Partners. I mean, one of the things that he did after the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, he befriended, you know, the Saudi Arabia government and ensured that this didn't have, you know, severe consequences for the country. Maybe it wasn't so hard to convince President Trump of that, but he's definitely used that to cement those relationships, then went in and cashed in in this second term. So that's the way that I kind of think about it, is that he wasn't. He didn't have this infrastructure in place to literally collect money, but he was establishing the relationships that allowed him to collect it. Pretty much immediately after the first administration ended.

[Jane Coaston]

Khashoggi was the journalist and Washington Post contributor who was, as far as we know. Murdered by Saudi Arabia.

[Judd Leggam]

Yep. That's been the conclusion of the entire US Intelligence apparatus. And Kushner still to this day occasionally is asked about it because he has such a close relationship with, with the Saudis and always dismisses it says, are we still even talking about this? And I think that, among other things, is something that the Saudi government has come to appreciate and is why they've invested so much money. When Saudi Arabia was initially pitched by Jared KUSHNER for the $2 billion, the committee that they have set up to evaluate investments said this is a bad idea. He has no experience, the fees are excessive, the risk is too high. And it was only when the leaders went in and overruled that committee that he got this money.

[Jane Coaston]

At any point did he say he'd step back from that business, from managing all that money when his father in law became president again?

[Judd Leggam]

No, it was kind of the opposite. What he said was he's taking a step back from the White House that he's not going to get involved in foreign policy issues because obviously it's a massive conflict to be involved in foreign policy issues while you are effectively on the payroll of Saudi Arabia, the uae, various other countries managing their money. So that's what he said he would do. He also said that he wasn't going to raise any additional, even though he wasn't going to be involved in the White House at all, that he wasn't going to raise any additional funds because that would be a conflict. That's another thing that he's now actively doing as he's involved in the Iran negotiations. He's also simultaneously re soliciting Saudi Arabia and all of these foreign governments for more money because he's in another fundraise.

[Jane Coaston]

I know that this seems like kind of an obvious question, but can we just talk about those conflicts of interest? I mean, you mentioned like, yes, he's making these negotiations, but can we go through them? Like, for example, let's start with New Gaza. That's a big one. What is his involvement with New Gaza and the Board of Peace and what are the conflicts there?

[Judd Leggam]

Well, he is on the Board of Peace. It's a formal position that he's been given there, unlike this negotiating position. They have this whole plan to redevelop Gaza, turn into some kind of luxury resort. And the conflict is that's exactly the business that he is in. He's in that area of the world going in and financing these redevelopment projects. And so he is in the position to profit all those. He's from those, he's also heavily invested in an Israeli insurance company, which would also presumably be involved in ensuring a redeveloped Gaza as well. So there's just a host of conflicts, and it just conveniently set up. The whole plan is really geared, not around sort of a peace plan or something that would meet the needs of the people who used to be living there. But it does seem to be very specifically geared towards benefiting someone who has a lot of money to invest in expensive real estate projects. So we can sort of see this playing out to his benefit.

[Jane Coaston]

You wrote a piece about how Kushner's corruption seems to be flying under the radar. A ton of publications haven't even mentioned it, and they treat Kushner doing these negotiations as kind of just a normal event when it's not. But why do you think this is so important for people to understand and be aware of?

[Judd Leggam]

I think we're trying to. We're all struggling to figure out what's going on, for example, in Iran, why are we there? And more specifically, why can't there be an end to this war? President Trump seems to want to end it. And one of the things that people need to understand when we're trying to wrap our heads around this question is that one of the two chief negotiators, Jared Kushner, is very deeply financially enmeshed with Saudi Arabia, a country which, according to multiple reports, one encouraged Trump to start the war, said that he should go in and initiate the attack, and secondly, has been encouraging him not to end the war until regime change is achieved. So you have someone who's supposed to be representing, presumably American interests sitting at the table, speaking to the Pakistanis, who are then communicating that message to the Iranians and back and forth. But he has a whole nother set of interests that we know in many cases don't appear to be aligned with the interests of the United States.

[Jane Coaston]

Do we know how much money Jared Kushner has made while also representing the US government?

[Judd Leggam]

He gets about a 1.25% fee on the money under management. This is multiple billions of dollars that he's now been managing for since 2021. And then, obviously, that number increases every year. So this is not trivial amounts of money. And it's definitely something where, if you go back in history and look at the negotiators for every major US Conflict, there's never been anything like this. You've never had someone, really, with any kind of income from a foreign government, much less tens and hundreds of millions of dollars.

[Jane Coaston]

Right. It this kind of mixing of government business and personal business is pretty unprecedented. If Kushner has no official role in the government, and I've been struck by how the Trump administration keeps describing him as like a helpful private citizen, but he is representing the US Government. Is there any way to hold him accountable for this alleged corruption?

[Judd Leggam]

Well, I think that's the big issue, right, is if he were considered even a temporary government employee, which Elon Musk was considered. And interestingly enough, Steve Witkoff, he his co negotiator. That's his position too. He had he is considered a government employee, then there would be all sorts of requirements requiring him to disclose his financial interests. And, you know, all the conflict of interest laws that don't necessarily apply to the president but do apply to people working for the president would kick in. I think that the issue is it's unclear who has the standing to bring that kind of challenge. There's certainly been groups like CREW and others who have been saying, hey, you're an official government employee now, pointing to his position in the Board of Peace. You need to now file your financial disclosure form. You need to comply with all of these rules about conflict of interest. And the response has basically just been to ignore it. So that's the situation where we're in now.

[Jane Coaston]

Judd, thank you so much for joining me.

[Judd Leggam]

Thanks so much for having me.

[Jane Coaston]

That was my conversation with Jud Legam, author of Popular information on Substack. We'll link to his piece in the show Notes I am not going to end the Iran war, but I also didn't start the Iran war. If you're okay with that, make sure to subscribe. Leave a five star review on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Watch us on YouTube and share with your friends. More to come after some ads. What a day is brought to you by Zebiotics. Let's face it, after a night with drinks, I don't bounce back the next day like I used to. I have to make a choice. I can either have a great night or a great next day. That is until I found pre Alcohol Zebiotics. Pre Alcohol Probiotic drink is the world's first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking. Here's how it when you drink, alcohol gets converted into a toxic byproduct in the gut. It's a buildup of this by product, not dehydration. That's to blame for rough days after drinking. Pre alcohol produces an enzyme to break this by product down. Just remember to make pre alcohol your first drink of the night. Drink responsibly and you'll feel your best tomorrow. Every time I have pre alcohol before drinks, I notice a difference the next day. Even after a night out, I can confidently plan on running and working out without worry. From the fairways in Augusta to the first pitch of baseball season and the start of festival circuits, April is a sprint of outdoor celebrations. Don't let a rough next day keep you on the sidelines. Drink pre alcohol to stay ahead of the game and make the most of every sunny Saturday. Go to zebiotics.com wad to learn more and get 15% off your first order when you use code WAD at checkout. Zebiotics is backed with a 100% money back guarantee, so if you're unsatisfied for any reason, they'll refund your money, no questions asked. Remember to head to Zeb addicts.com wad and use the code WAD at checkout for 15% off what a day is brought to you by Common Power. Since 2018, Common Power has talked to thousands of voters and they've summed up three important lessons as we head into the midterms. 1 an anti Trump message is not enough, 2. Working class voters are the priority and 3 in the age of AI, talking to voters at their doors is necessary to win. This year, Common Power is supporting new Democratic leadership in key primaries across the nation to ensure we have a fighting chance at winning in the general, they're training and deploying thousands of volunteers to reach voters in more than 20 battleground states and over 50 races just this year. Next Generation leaders are what fuel movements and the teams at Common Power and they need your support to fund their travel and long term development. Midterms are here and for those who refuse to sit out this pivotal moment, you can donate [e-mail] Crooked Premier hosts

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[Jane Coaston]

Here's what else we're following today. Head of Lines. Joining me is Crooked's Washington correspondent Matt Burke to talk about the big stories. Hey, Matt.

[Matt Burke]

Hello, Jane.

[Jane Coaston]

So after Saturday's shooting at the White House Correspondents Dinner, it feels like to me, everyone I know is asking the same question. How did someone with a gun get so close to the president again? Now, Matt, unfortunately, Kash Patel is director of the FBI and he offered absolutely no answers on Fox News Monday, but he did give. How best to put this self aggrandizement.

[Dan Primack]

First and foremost, I want to remind your audience of President Trump's leadership, literally courage under fire, that evening at the press conference to announce to the world and be as transparent as possible. He's assembled the greatest law enforcement team that I've ever seen. This was a matter that needs to be heavily scrutinized because it almost took the lives of dozens, if not hundreds of people. But for the quick reaction of our law enforcement, and we're going to be able to present to the world in less than 36 hours almost exactly what happened. This individual's entire background, entire background, who he knew, where he lived, who he was talking to, everything about the firearms, everything about the ballistics. I mean, just remind everyone this was almost the entirety of the president's cabinet. The president, vice president himself, and 2,000 members of the media. This is something the movies don't even write about. We're going to be talking about how we improve the security, not just for this event, but for all events going forward. We're going to learn from this one.

[Jane Coaston]

I think I've seen a couple of movies about this very subject. Like, I think that this is, this has been covered in movies. Kash Patel, maybe watch more movies.

[Matt Burke]

Yeah. So, Jane, there's a lot of talk right now about what to do going forward and how to improve security. And very conveniently, one of the solutions that Trump and his allies are pitching is building the giant ballroom. The Trump administration and Republican lawmakers have latched on this idea that building the $400 million addition to the White House with bulletproof glass is the best way to keep him safe.

[Jane Coaston]

Which doesn't make any sense because the White House Correspondents Dinner is not a White House event and would not take place in the ballroom. But I digress. In other news, the man who was accused of opening fire at the dinner was charged Monday with attempting to assassinate the president. He has been remanded into custody, and another hearing will take place May 11. Met with the ballroom stuff, with the kind of blame game being played that I know that you've seen, it feels like this is another one of those incidents that's going to just become partisan chum.

[Matt Burke]

Yeah, that's putting it lightly. I think that the partisan chum is already upon us, to say the least. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt on Monday blamed Democrats for calling Trump a fascist. Democrats say they're just criticizing his policies and not necessarily him as a person, but, you know, that's not how Republicans are twisting this. They think that Democrats are coming at him personally. And Trump has made a lot of very direct threats against Democrats and in the past.

[Jane Coaston]

Yeah, like we know this. Speaking of partisan chum, the Florida legislature will meet today to consider new voting maps proposed by Governor Ron DeSantis on Monday. And, Matt, because subtext is dead, the map DeSantis released color codes, districts by political party. The Florida Constitution says you can't draw maps by party, but, like, the Florida GOP does not care. And here's DeSantis last weekend focusing on his real enemy, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.

[Ron DeSantis]

You know, we got this guy Hakeem Jeffries. Have you guys heard of him? I don't know that he'd do very well in Chipley if he ran for office, but he's threatening Florida. Oh, you can't do you do the redistrict. We're gonna come down, we're gonna get you guys all this stuff. Go ahead, make my day. Bring it on.

[Matt Burke]

Sure, Jeffries gets a lot of hate from Democrats for not doing enough on some issues, but on this issue, he has been bringing it on. Democrats have been fighting back ever since Trump and Texas launched this redistricting war last year. And they've been super successful in many states and could even flip more seats because of redistricting than Republicans sometimes.

[Jane Coaston]

Matt, I think about how there was a lot of speculation in 2023 that DeSantis wears lifts in his shoes. No reason. Just.

[Matt Burke]

No reason at all.

[Jane Coaston]

Just thinking about it. Anyway, this comes after Virginians approved new voting maps last week, maps that could be at risk as the Virginia Supreme Court held a hearing Monday to determine whether or not the legislature complied with the law when it sent the maps to voters.

[Matt Burke]

Right. The court didn't issue a ruling, but if justices agree that the law was broken, that could essentially nullify last week's vote. And you know, speaking of democracy, King Charles and Queen Camilla touched down in D.C. on Monday to celebrate America's 250th anniversary. But that's not all this trip is really about. The Wall Street Journal described it as, quote, a diplomatic Hail Mary intended to, you know, lighten the mood between the US And Britain. Things have been tense for, you know, some reasons, which all include Trump and to convince Trump that, you know, it's good to have allies around the world. And the mood is definitely being lightened. The first day of the trip involved having tea at the White House. I didn't know that Trump drank tea, but I guess he does. And they also were taken on a beehive tour with Trump and Melania, who recently installed a third beehive on the White House grounds.

[Jane Coaston]

Speaking of things I also didn't know. I did not know they had bees. I hope Trump wears the beekeeper costume and has the little steamer thing. I just want to see that.

[Matt Burke]

Maybe he'll hold a cup of tea with his beehive costume. That'd be an image.

[Jane Coaston]

I long to see it. Charles is scheduled to address Congress today. It will be the first address to Congress from a sitting British monarch since Queen Elizabeth II did so in 1991. But, Matt, like, I know that the strategy of all of these dignitaries is to come to the US and be super, super, super nice to Trump. I don't think that's going to work, given that Trump gets mad about things so easily and so quickly. Like, he will drink some tea and he'll look at some bees, and then he's gonna post something in three days about how we should, I don't know, go to war with the Falkland Islands against the United Kingdom? I don't know.

[Matt Burke]

Yeah. I think that one thing we've learned is that we have absolutely no idea what's even gonna happen tomorrow. I have no clue how Trump is ever going to react to anything nowadays. And so I have just given up on guessing forever.

[Jane Coaston]

I think that's a really good strategy. As always, thank you so much, Matt.

[Matt Burke]

Thanks for having me.

[Jane Coaston]

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