Jon Favreau Ranks Michigan Primary Hot Takes

Summary

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What A Day: Jon Favreau Ranks Michigan Primary Hot Takes

Date: August 5, 2026
Host: Jane Coaston
Guest: Jon Favreau (Pod Save America)

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Episode Overview

This episode of What A Day zeroes in on the fallout and the "hot takes" arising from Michigan's Senate Democratic primary, which saw progressive Abdul El Sayed defeat Representative Haley Stevens in a major upset. Host Jane Coaston is joined by Jon Favreau of Pod Save America to apply a critical, nuanced lens to commentary around the race and to sort constructive insights from sensationalist noise. The discussion ranges from the meaning of El Sayed’s win for progressives, to Republican attempts at Islamophobic fearmongering, and the challenges facing both parties as midterms approach.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Abdul El Sayed’s Historic Win

• Underdog Victory: El Sayed, a progressive Muslim candidate, was outspent 11 to 1 and overcame both the Michigan and national Democratic establishment.
  • “That is...noteworthy in a state like Michigan. We're not talking about New York City...So that is noteworthy.”
    — Jon Favreau [00:00, 07:36]

2. Evaluating the 'Progressive Wave' Narrative

• Coaston and Favreau analyze whether El Sayed’s victory signals a national progressive surge:
  • Favreau’s “lukewarm take”: While progressives made gains (including in other Michigan districts), moderates held their own in states like Virginia, Missouri, and Washington.
    • “You have a very progressive Muslim candidate...took on the entire Democratic establishment and won. So that is something in a state like Michigan.”
      — Jon Favreau [07:00]
  • Rural Strength: El Sayed’s relative success in rural Upper Peninsula counties surprises both hosts.
    • “He did really well. Like in the Upper Peninsula, which I'm like, that's surprising and great.”
      — Jane Coaston [08:23]

3. Money vs. Movement

• Organized People vs. Organized Money:
  • Coaston cites Robert Reich: “Abdul El Sayed was outspent 9 to 1 by AIPAC and corporate super PACs...He proved that organized people can beat organized money. Good take, bad take?”
    — Jane Coaston [08:23]
  • Favreau: “I think that's a good take...AIPAC spent, I think, $32.5 million. That is the largest spend of any outside group in any Democratic primary this cycle...And the fact that he was able to overcome that—it's a pretty big deal.”
    — Jon Favreau [08:47]

4. Islamophobia and GOP Response

• Republican figures, especially Senator Tom Cotton, launch attacks framing El Sayed as an “Islamist Marxist”—a theme likely to define GOP strategy for the general election.
  • “The entire thing is just going to be saying the long version of Abdul's name...and being like, you know, he's some foreign influence despite being from Michigan.”
    — Jane Coaston [12:51]
  • Favreau notes El Sayed’s charisma as a key for defusing caricature, but questions its effectiveness with low-information voters:
    • “...for people who just see these ads in the background while they're washing dishes—will that seep in? What he needs to do is make sure he can meet and get his message in front of as many Michiganders as possible.”
      — Jon Favreau [13:13]

5. Uniting the Democratic Party Post-Primary

• Both sides (progressive and establishment) appear gracious and ready to unite post-primary.
  • “All of the establishment, institutional, lefty figures in the party have already done a great job of coming together.”
    — Jon Favreau [14:56]
  • Buttigieg, McMorrow, and Stevens rally support for party unity against the GOP in November.

6. Polling and Narratives

• Discussion of how polling missed the final margin (El Sayed’s win was much narrower than predicted):
  • “Abdul El Sayed's apparent victory is a big win for the left, but a disaster for polling.”
    — Nate Silver via Jane Coaston [18:11]
  • Favreau: “I don’t know if it’s a disaster, but it’s another black mark...Michigan's a hard state to poll.”
    — Jon Favreau [18:11]

7. Republican Framing of the Race

• Conservative strategists suggest El Sayed’s candidacy could help Republican Mike Rogers:
  • “Could make Mike Rogers’ life easier—but we don’t know yet.”
    — Jon Favreau [17:13-17:19]
  • The challenge for Democrats: Define Rogers as a Trump-aligned outsider despite his more moderate former image.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• El Sayed as Underdog:
  “You have a very progressive Muslim candidate named Abdul Al Sayed who was outspent 11 to 1 and took on the entire Democratic establishment in D.C. and in Michigan and won.”
  — Jon Favreau [00:00]

• On GOP’s Islamophobic Playbook:
  “The entire thing is just going to be saying the long version of Abdul's name...and being like, you know, he's some foreign influence despite being from Michigan.”
  — Jane Coaston [12:51]

• On El Sayed’s Charisma:
  “He is charismatic and engaging...so I think for a lot of people in Michigan, seeing him up close will puncture the caricature...”
  — Jon Favreau [13:13]

• On Party Unity:
  “All of the establishment, institutional, lefty figures in the party have already done a great job of coming together...seeing the example set by Democratic leaders is a great start.”
  — Jon Favreau [14:56]

• On Polling in Michigan:
  “Michigan, as you said, is weird to poll because it's full only of the greatest people on the face of the earth and complete weirdos.”
  — Jane Coaston [18:32]

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Key Timestamps

• 00:00–07:58: Discussion of El Sayed’s victory, implications for progressives, and the influence of money in politics
• 08:23–09:15: Jane and Jon react to El Sayed’s rural support and grassroots organizing
• 12:12–14:06: Republican response, Islamophobic framing, and media narratives
• 14:27–15:26: Democratic unity and the role of party leaders post-primary
• 15:46–17:07: GOP framing, risks for Mike Rogers, and general election strategy
• 18:11–18:32: Analysis of polling failures and the unique challenge of polling Michigan

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Summary

This episode of What A Day delivers a sharp, entertaining, and substantively rich breakdown of the Michigan Democratic Senate primary shakeup, avoiding easy narratives and unpacking the nuances behind the results. The conversation between Jane Coaston and Jon Favreau thoughtfully pushes back against simplistic hot takes, calling attention to:

• The remarkable nature of El Sayed’s win in a tough, moderate state against immense financial disadvantage
• The reality that progressive victories were notable, but not a wholesale revolution
• Immediate and expected Islamophobic attacks from national Republicans, and the challenge of combating them with direct voter engagement
• The importance of swift party unity, as seen in the gracious behavior of both primary winner and loser
• Polling vulnerabilities, particularly in Michigan’s unique political landscape

Listeners walk away with a clear sense that while punditry may crave sweeping narratives, the real story is much messier—and more interesting—on the ground.

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Transcript

[Jon Favreau]

You have a very progressive Muslim candidate named Abdul Al Said who was outspent 11 to 1 and took on the entire Democratic establishment in D.C. and in Michigan and won. So that is something in a state like Michigan. Right. Which is. We're not talking about New York City. We're not talking about a deep blue district.

[Unknown Caller/Guest]

Yeah.

[Jon Favreau]

So that is. That is noteworthy.

[Unknown Caller/Guest]

Foreign

[Jane Coaston]

and this is what a day. A show that is so comforted to know that while the war in Iran continues to spiral and Americans deal with an ever increasing cost of living, the Vice President of The United States, J.D. vance, is laser focused on calling a Washington Post columnist fat on Twitter. On today's show, we talk to Pod Save America's Jon Favreau about the good, the bad and the ugly takes on Tuesday's primary elections. Before we get into Michigan's midterm mishigas, here's what we're following today. Wednesday, August 5th a lot of progress has been made.

[Unknown Caller/Guest]

And they called me and they said, please, let's talk. They want to talk. The funny thing is they never mention that. They always say we're not talking. But they called, they wanted to talk. We've been talking. They want to make a deal. They do not want to be here.

[Jane Coaston]

Likewise, President Donald Trump told reporters at Los Angeles International Airport Tuesday night that a deal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz could come this week. I'll believe it when I see it, and even then I might not believe it. The United States and Israel launched the war against Iran earlier this year, citing various goals I still do not understand. But recently the conflict has devolved into a fight over the strait that was open before the war began, and now Iran wants control over it. And of course, the Trump administration isn't a fan of that. An agreement giving Iran authority over the strait would be seen as a major loss for the US And a break with global norms. Alas, closure of the strait has driven up the cost of fuel and basic goods far beyond the region, roiling the global economy. So something's gotta give. As Trump's war against Iran rages on, the US Is seeing more possible cyber attacks targeting water systems. According to sources who spoke to ABC News, hackers found a weakness in software commonly used by utility companies in at least 12 U.S. states. ABC News's Erin Katersky told Good Morning America Tuesday that some utilities had been forced to switch to manual operations, but so far, there's no evidence of widespread disruption to water supplies.

[Unknown Caller/Guest]

The fear, though, is this. Is Iran showing how it could retaliate if President Trump further escalates the war. Iran remains the prime suspect behind these cyber attacks, though sources say it's still not confirmed. Officials are assessing whether this could be the work of a different state actor, maybe mimicking Iran, to try and influence what the US does next.

[Jane Coaston]

Of course, Donald Trump blamed the attacks in Minnesota on the state of Minnesota, because I'd argue Donald Trump hates the state of Minnesota more than the country we're purportedly at war with. Great news for American companies. The Trump administration is giving refunds. It has returned at least $166 billion to importers after the Supreme Court struck down many of its tariffs earlier this year. Last great news for Americans. You are not seeing any of that money. According to cnn, companies like Amazon and Apple got refunds because the tariff refund system only pays back the companies that paid the tariffs in the first place. So Apple got a $2.2 billion refund and Amazon got a $600 million refund. But the average American family is not likely to get anything back from those companies, even though they paid nearly $2,000 in tariff costs between February 2025 and January 2026. Why? Because despite promises from some companies to pass on those bonuses to consumers in the form of lower prices, the war in Iran and increased energy costs are likely eating up a lot of that money. In short, Trump is why your consumer goods are more expensive, and Trump is why they won't get any cheaper anytime soon. Will you tell him to drop out? No, I will tell Max what I tell everyone. These are serious allegations. I'm the father of two daughters who work on Capitol Hill. I mean, the allegations are serious. I think Max is taking them seriously. I think our colleagues are. But again, we have to allow this process to play out. It's just begun.

[Tommy Vietor]

Sure.

[Jane Coaston]

House Speaker Mike Johnson spoke to Politico about embattled Ohio Republican Representative Max Miller and his domestic abuse allegations. Johnson told Politico that members of Congress are not merely disciplined for allegations and emphasized, quote, there is all sorts of domestic events going on with 435 members of Congress all the time. It's not my business to get engaged in. Is actually your business. And the House GOP creep fest continues. North Carolina Republican Representative Chuck Edwards announced that he will not seek reelection. It comes after the House Ethics Committee recommended that he be censured for gestures like gifting a staffer 30 different types of ice cream, offering to skip votes to help a staffer decorate her Christmas tree, and gifting a staffer a puzzle which, when completed, showed an invitation to an Adam Sandler show. Happy he won't be returning. And that's the news. Let's talk about last night's primaries. It was a big night for Michigan Democrats as Progressive candidate Abdul El Sayed beat U.S. representative Haley Stevens in the race for a seat in the Senate this fall. His campaign centered on support for Medicare for all and opposition to funding Israel's conflicts. And now he'll face Republican Mike Rogers in November. It was the most expensive Senate Democratic primary in history and proved to be a much tighter win than the polling predicted. Recent polls had El Sayed winning the race by nearly 20 points. Now, with the help of establishment Democrats both in Michigan and nationally, he's focused on gathering support from voters who supported Stevens. But what did we actually learn from Michigan's primary? Was this a win for progressives, a shot at the establishment? Is Al Said too liberal to win in November?

[Tommy Vietor]

Is.

[Jane Coaston]

And what does it say about the midterms? Everyone has an opinion, but not all of them are. Good to hear more about which takes we should be listening to, I spoke to Jon Favreau. He's the co host of Pod Save America. Jon, welcome back to Water Day.

[Jon Favreau]

Thanks for having me. Good to be here.

[Jane Coaston]

Yesterday, five states went to the polls, and this morning we got results. In one of the biggest primary races around the country, Progressive Abdul Al Sayed won a tight race for Michigan's open Senate seat for the primary, defeating Representative Haley Stevens. Now, on a day like this, there are a lot of takes. This is a big race. People have a lot of thoughts. They are sharing them and I want you to rate some of them.

[Jon Favreau]

Cool.

[Jane Coaston]

Good take or bad take?

[Jon Favreau]

Can I do like a medium take?

[Jane Coaston]

Yeah, you can do like lukewarm take?

[Jon Favreau]

Lukewarm take. Okay.

[Jane Coaston]

Kind of like a, you know, like it's a mid take.

[Jon Favreau]

Okay, I like that.

[Jane Coaston]

Okay, starting off, El Sayed's victory is a sign of a larger progressive wave taking over the Democratic Party.

[Jon Favreau]

Lukewarm take.

[Jane Coaston]

Okay. Why lukewarm?

[Jon Favreau]

I think you can look at a lot of the results last night and you see certainly progressive challengers winning against more moderate Democrats. We saw this also in the Michigan seventh. We saw it in the Michigan 13th, I believe. But then more moderate candidates fended off progressive challengers in places like Virginia and Missouri and Washington state. So I think it's mixed. But I certainly think that the reason I say lukewarm is, I mean, you have a very progressive Muslim candidate named Abdul Al Said who was outspent 11 to 1 and took on the entire Democratic establishment. In D.C. and in Michigan and won. So that is something in a state like Michigan. Right. Which is. We're not talking about New York City. We're not talking about a deep blue district. So that is noteworthy.

[Jane Coaston]

Yeah. And to that point, based on what we know as of right now, Abdul did quite well in rural Michigan. I'm gonna have to throw up the mitten, which is how you do maps. This area. He did well.

[Jon Favreau]

I'm interested in the splits there. I just said this to Dan on Pod Save America. Cause it's like there's some like, she did really well in a lot of rural Michigan. And then there were pockets of rural Michigan where he did really well. He did really well. Do you know the difference of like,

[Jane Coaston]

yeah, he did really well. Like in the Upper Peninsula, which I'm like, that's surprising and great. Robert Reich, former Secretary of labor, who talks a lot on the Internet, he said on Twitter, quote, Abdul El Sayed was outspent nine to one by AIPAC and corporate super PACs in the most expensive Senate Democratic primary of all time. Last night he proved that organized people can beat organized money. Good take, bad take. What kind of take?

[Jon Favreau]

I think that's a good take. I think that's a good take because certainly they beat organized money. I mean, $65 million in outside spending, AIPAC spent, I think, $32.5 million. That is the largest spend of any outside group in any Democratic primary this cycle. The single largest one. That is so, so much money. And the fact that he was able to overcome that is. It's a pretty big deal.

[Jane Coaston]

For more on how Republicans are attempting to spin this race, Islamophobia, stick around. We'll get back to my conversation with Jon Favreau in a moment. In the meantime, make sure to subscribe, leave a 5 star review on Spotify and Apple podcasts, watch us on YouTube and share with your friends. More to come after some ads. What a day is brought to you by Willy's Remedy. Finally, an alcohol alternative that actually works with an uplifting euphoric buzz you can really feel without any of the negative side effects. Willy's is a premium THC infused social tonic crafted by the legendary Willie Nelson. Inspired by Willy's way of living, where peace flows freely and hangovers are a thing of the past. It is a low calorie, low sugar alcohol alternative that actually works, delivering a fast acting euphoric social buzz without the regrets that come with alcohol. Willy's Social tonics come in 5 milligram and 10 milligram doses with a best in class flavor experience. So smooth and balanced you barely realize you're drinking a THC product at all. You can enjoy the tonics as a shot, sipped over ice or mixed into your favorite. Mocktail Willy's ships directly to your doorstep in 40 plus states and has sold out three times in the first six months with over 300,000 happy customers. So order [e-mail] and use code WAD for 20% off of your first order and free shipping on orders over $95 and live like a legend. Waddaday is brought to you by Americans United for Separation of Church and State 250 years into the American experiment, it's time for all of us to decide what kind of a country do we want to be? The Founding Fathers got a lot of things wrong, but one thing they got right was knowing that church and state need to be kept separate. Christian nationalists are trying to destroy that history and take this country down a scary path. They're misusing government power to impose their beliefs, rewrite our history, and decide who belongs in America. Americans United refuses to let that happen every single day. They are fighting back and holding the line against Christian nationalism with everything they've got. Au has sued the Trump administration seven times in the last year alone and 12 times since the second administration began. They've challenged government officials who use taxpayer resources to promote their religious beliefs. They're exposing abuses of power, defending public schools, and holding the government accountable when it violates the Constitution. But filing lawsuits, changing policy, and community advocacy don't happen on their own. They happen because people like you decide to be part of their fight. If you're looking for an empowered community to join, take a look at what's going on with AU. Visit AU.org crooked to learn more and join the fight today.

[Tommy Vietor]

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[Jane Coaston]

Let's get back to my conversation with Jon Favreau, giving us a hint of where the Republicans are going to take this. Here's Arkansas Republican Senator Tom Cotton on Twitter, quote, senate Democrats are excited for Abdul El Sayed, who proudly campaigns with extremists who say America deserved 9, 11. The Islamic Marxists truly are taking over the Democratic Party. We must never give them power. Quick clarification. He is referencing Hasan Piker because of course he is. Good take, bad take.

[Jon Favreau]

I'm gonna say bad take on that one.

[Jane Coaston]

Yeah. Tom Cotton with a bad take.

[Jon Favreau]

What? Not an Islamist Marxist? No, no, that's not. I would not. I don't think he would identify as such.

[Jane Coaston]

No. But I mean, we knew what the game was going to be. But this is how they are going to do this campaign. This is, it's. The entire thing is just going to be saying the long version of Abdul's name, which he's already made the note of. Like, if you say it, say it correctly. And being like, you know, he's some foreign influence despite being from Michigan. And like, that's going to be the entire campaign that will be.

[Jon Favreau]

And I think whether it works or not is dependent on this Abdul, when you meet him, when you see him on television, he is charismatic and engaging. And so I think for a lot of people in Michigan, seeing him up close will puncture the caricature of him as the Islamist Marxist extremist. The question is for marginal voters, for low information voters who don't get to see Abdul up close and just see ads like the NRSC ran today, which is basically like Tommy Cotton's tweet in ad form for people who just see that in the background while they're washing dishes. Like, will that seep in for people who don't know Abdul or get to know Abdul? And so what he needs to do now is make sure he can meet and get his message in front of as many Michiganders as possible.

[Jane Coaston]

Yeah, I was just talking to Tim Miller about this that he's going to do. And I would guess that he's going to do what Sram Hamdani did, which is be omnipresent.

[Jon Favreau]

Yes.

[Jane Coaston]

Like there will not be. If you are at a football tailgate this fall, he will be there. You won't even know where he's coming from. He will be. You know, you're at like a Grand Valley State game. Abdul's there.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Jane Coaston]

You're at like Michigan Tech. He's there. You are anywhere in the state of Michigan and somehow Abdul will be there. Agree you shared this, but I'll ask anyway. CNN's chief political analyst David Axelrod tweeted. It may sound odd, but the photo finish in Michigan may be a blessing for Abdul El Sayed and Michigan Democrats. What's clear is that both factions of the party need each other to prevail in November and now have the opportunity to mobilize around issues that unite them, starting with ealdonaldtrump. Good take, bad take.

[Jon Favreau]

I think that's a good take. I think it's a good take. I think that what we've seen this morning from Haley Stevens, from Mallory McMorrow, from Abdul El Sayed, who all ran against each other, they've all been gracious to each other and like all of the sort of establishment, institutional, lefty figures in the party have already done a great job of, like, coming together. The question is, like, can the voters in Michigan do that as well? I think that, like, seeing the example set by Democratic leaders is a great start.

[Jane Coaston]

You see Pete Buttigieg basically being like, hey, we're all united around one thing, and that is defeating Republicans this fall. Yes, that's it.

[Jon Favreau]

And if someone's going into the polls on election day and they're undecided, it still seems like the best message to be like, you send Mike Rogers there, Donald Trump's gonna control the Senate. Do you want Donald Trump to keep controlling the Senate?

[Jane Coaston]

Speaking of Donald Trump, Donald Trump seems to be unaware that actually he is the target of all Democrats, all Democrats thoughts. And he seems to think that maybe talking about this will be helpful. He said, and I am quoting, great news for the Republican Party. El Sayed, a communist loser who hates Jews in Israel, is a projected winner and is raced with the socialists. I'm sidebarring that, as usual, the polls were way off on this one. She was not expected to do nearly as well as she did. Now the Democrats crazy policies will only get worse. One, I like that he's presuming already that Abdul will win.

[Jon Favreau]

Good take, bad take, incomprehensible take, Couldn't understand, really. Indecis like, I lost him at the.

[Jane Coaston]

Is Haley Stevens a socialist?

[Jon Favreau]

I was gonna say. I don't think all the words fit together in a way that really you can. You can understand.

[Jane Coaston]

But going to someone who is more cogent. Thinking about November, some people, like Jesse Arm, the vice President of External affairs at the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank based in New York, think that Abdul El Sayed's win could make life easier for Mike Rogers. He goes on to say that Mike Rogers, you know, should start Democrats for Mike Rogers and start trying to reach across the aisle.

[Jon Favreau]

Good take, bad take, could make life easier.

[Jane Coaston]

The could is the reality.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, that's okay.

[Unknown Caller/Guest]

It could.

[Jon Favreau]

It could make Mike Rogers life easier, but we don't know yet. We gotta see how Mike Rogers campaigns.

[Unknown Caller/Guest]

I.

[Jon Favreau]

Look, I think. I think that people in Michigan who know Mike Rogers, they might still think of him as a more moderate Republican or at least a more establishment Republican. And I think it's gonna be up to Abdul and the Democratic Party to remind people that Mike Rogers is now a Trump toady who moved to Florida and made a lot of money and now does whatever Trump tells him to do.

[Jane Coaston]

I mean, he also told Semafor that he doesn't know anything about anything and nor does he care about the Iran

[Jon Favreau]

war at all, which no one's talking about the Iran war. He doesn't hear about it. What does he think about Trump's terrorists?

[Jane Coaston]

No idea.

[Jon Favreau]

Doesn't know. Don't care.

[Jane Coaston]

Nope. Nope. Don't care. I mean, I care. That was the actual, quote, final take from Nate Silver talking about the polling. Abdul El Sayed's apparent victory is a big win for the left, but a disaster for polling. Good take, bad take.

[Jon Favreau]

I don't know if it's a disaster, but it's another. It's a black mark for polling. Michigan's a hard state to poll. That's always been true in the general and now I think it's. Now it's true in primaries. Primaries are also hard to pull anyway because they're lower turnout. But could really use a gold standard pollster in Michigan because there's a lot of junk polls turned out.

[Jane Coaston]

Yep, yep. I mean, Michigan, as you said, is weird to pull because it's full only of the greatest people on the face of the earth and complete weirdos. John, as always, thank you for joining me.

[Jon Favreau]

Thanks for having me.

[Jane Coaston]

That was my conversation with Jon Favreau, co host of Pod Save America. Before we go, we don't need to tell you how important these upcoming midterms are or what's at stake. You already know, which is why you also know that we'll need everyone to pitch in and organize in their communities over these coming months. VoteSave America just debuted a new collection of tees featuring nine of the most crucial battleground states on the 2026 map. Get yours and rep youp State today at store.crooked.com that's all for today. If you like the show, make sure you subscribe, leave a review and subscribe. Never forget that our president is 80 years old. And tell your friends to listen. And if you're into reading, I'm not. Just about Trump giving Fox News host Trace Gallagher the highest of boomer compliments.

[Unknown Caller/Guest]

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[Jon Favreau]

Thank you, sir.

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[Jane Coaston]

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[Tommy Vietor]

Hey, It's Tommy from Pod Save America and Pod Save the World. Last year, 2,500 people joined us at CrookedCon for conversations with some of the smartest organizers, least annoying politicians, and most interesting voices in politics to talk about how to fix this mess. Even President Obama made a surprise appearance. We're doing it all again November 5th to 7th in Washington, D.C. with even more podcasts, panels and workshops. Plus, there'll be drinks, which we'll need after the midterms. No matter which way they go. Get [e-mail] if you're a friend of the pod, you get a discount, too. See you there.