
House lawmakers will start their Summer break a few days early today, vacating the capital until September. They’re leaving early because Republican Speaker Mike Johnson is trying desperately – desperately – to avoid holding any votes on releasing materials related to the Jeffrey Epstein case. Over at the White House Tuesday, President Donald Trump did his best to turn attention away from Epstein and toward his latest conspiracy de jour, which is really just a remix of his favorite first-term conspiracy surrounding Russia’s interference in the 2016 election (A.K.A. Russia, Russia, Russia). But House Democrats say no dice. California Democratic Rep. Robert Garcia, ranking member on the House Oversight Committee, talks about what Democrats are doing to keep the Trump administration in check. And in headlines: Interim U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey Alina Habba is out of a job…maybe, Trump announced a new trade deal with the Philippians, and the United Nations delivered ...
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It's Wednesday, July 23rd. I'm Jayden Coston and this is Whataday, the show that is celebrating the Republican Party's toughness and anti establishment attitude that it will have the second a Democrat is back in the White House. For now, though, the GOP is busy demanding that the Kennedy Center's Opera House be named after First Lady Melania Trump. Might as well wave a Tread harder on me, daddy flag from the Capitol dome. On Today's show, interim U.S. attorney for the District of New Jersey Alina Haba is out of a job, maybe. And the United nations delivers a stark warning about mass starvation in Gaza. But let's start with Congress. Remember, Congress, House lawmakers start their summer vacation today. They will be out until September. They're even leaving D.C. several days earlier than expected. How very French of them. Anyway, they're leaving early because Republican Speaker Mike Johnson is trying desperately, desperately to avoid holding any votes on releasing materials related to the Jeffrey Epstein case. Because, per Speaker Johnson, quote, we're done being lectured on transparency. Sure. Here's Johnson. I just explained why we're not going to play political games with this. We've all been very clear and transparent. The House rules resolution sets a good standard and requires all credible evidence to be released. And that's exactly where the White House is. The political games he's referring to is legislation introduced by Democrats and some Republicans to push the Department of Justice to release more materials related to the Epstein investigation. Practically, it means Congress is at a standstill over the whole thing. And over at the White House, President Donald Trump did his best Tuesday to turn attention to his latest conspiracy theory du jour. It's really just a remix of his favorite first term conspiracy over Russia's interference in the 2016 election. AKA Russia, Russia, Russia.
Robert Garcia
No, no. We caught Hillary Clinton. We caught Barack Hussein Obama. They're the ones. And then you have many, many people under them. Susan Rice. They're all there. The names are all there. And I guess they figured they're going to put this in classified information and nobody will ever see it again. But it doesn't work that way. And it's the most unbelievable thing I think I've ever read. So you ought to take a look at that and stop talking about nonsense because this is big stuff.
Jayden Coston
A rare look over there in the wild. And of the Epstein conspiracies, I'll give you one chance to guess what he called it. If you guessed witch hunt, congratulations, you're a masochist who watches too much news, just like us. But Democrats in the House say no dice. They view the Epstein investigation as part and parcel of an overarching message. Donald Trump is corrupt and everything he and the GOP do is part of that corruption. And they're focused on getting that message out wherever and whenever they can. So to talk more about what Democrats are doing to try to keep the Trump administration in check, I spoke with California Congressman Robert Garcia. He's the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee. Representative Garcia, welcome to What a day.
Robert Garcia
Yeah, happy to be here. Thank you.
Jayden Coston
House Speaker Mike Johnson on Tuesday announced he's sending lawmakers home early for the August recess. He wanted to head off votes about releasing the so called Epstein files, saying, quote, we're done being lectured on transparency. What's been the reaction among Democrats?
Robert Garcia
I mean, first, this is total insanity. They're the ones who wanted to release the Epstein files. Donald Trump campaigned on it. The they've been obsessed with releasing the files. And now that Donald Trump has reversed course and doesn't want to do it anymore and clearly hiding something, I think Republicans and Mike Johnson are going to do whatever they can to try to have Donald Trump escape accountability. And they're taking now their orders directly from him who has said he does not want Republicans talking about this and Democrats release the files. We don't care who's on that list, what powerful people are there. We should the all the files should be released to the public. Get it out there. And now Republicans are going to literally send Congress home early because they don't want to take votes to force the release of these files.
Jayden Coston
Democrats on the House Oversight Committee, where you're the ranking member, voted with Republicans Tuesday to subpoena Epstein's associate, Ghislaine Maxwell. She's currently serving 20 years in prison for recruiting and grooming girls and young women. For Epstein, what's the end goal with her testimony? Because she's currently asking the Supreme Court to review her case.
Robert Garcia
I think there's two pieces that are important. One is, look, Democrats should welcome more information. We should welcome transparency. Let's get her to testify. I think that's important. And at the same time, we should be very clear about who she is. Right. This is a bad person. This is someone that actually worked to abuse young girls and women. This is someone that has lied clearly to the court in the past. This is also somebody that wants to curry favor with Donald Trump and maybe get some kind of pardon for what she has done. And so I think we gotta take all of that in context, that this is someone whose testimony to Oversight could be very complicated and complex. And there's different agendas here. Now. That should not stop us from kind of shining light on the Epstein files. And what it certainly shouldn't do is diminish our intensity in a full release of the files.
Jayden Coston
Looking at the bigger picture, I'm sure you've heard the argument that this isn't where Democrats should be putting their energy right now, that Democrats should be talking about issues that are impacting everyday Americans who are worried about their grocery bills, losing their health care, the cost of housing, the kind of kitchen table issues we hear about all the time. How do you respond to them?
Robert Garcia
So I think we gotta talk about all of it. And I think Republicans are ripping away people's healthcare. They're giving tax breaks to billionaires. They're, you know, destroying many of our government programs. That's all true. It's also true that Donald Trump is the most corrupt president in history. And part of his corruption is clearly what is here in these Epstein files. The way he wants to handle them, not releasing them, information that he knows. According to him and Epstein, they were close buddies for 10, 15 years. There's something there, clearly, because he's now done a complete reversal. He has the power to actually now release them, and he won't. And so I think this argument goes to Trump's betrayal to his base and the American public, that he won't do something that he said he was so clearly intent on doing. And so I think it's all important for. We can't stop talking about healthcare. We can't stop talking about textbooks to billionaires, and we should certainly not stop talking about Trump's corruption, which is also tied into the Epstein files.
Jayden Coston
Right. It is a little odd that he suddenly has decided that anyone asking questions about this is a bad person.
Robert Garcia
Crazy. I mean, crazy. Yep.
Jayden Coston
So, as the ranking member of the Oversight Committee, how else can you use your position to pressure the Trump administration? Because Democratic voters are desperate for members of Congress to do more to counter Trump, even if the options for doing so are slim because the party's in the minority.
Robert Garcia
We're gonna go all in, all the time and be aggressive. And I think that's part of it. I mean, the Republicans didn't expect us to also say, yes, bring her in. They wanted to have their own vote. They thought this would settle our desires to get more information, and it's not. We are not going to rest until we have a full release of the files. We're gonna be doing our own investigation work at the oversight Committee. And you can best believe when we win the majority, that we are going to get all of the information and those files on our desks. And so we're working really hard to get the information out. We're going to continue to bring as much, I think, energy and fire as we can. And I think we have people on our committee that are doing just that. You think about folks like Jasmine Crockett and Max Frost and Greg Cassar. I mean, these people are fighting like hell. And we. That's the approach we're going to take on the Oversight Committee.
Jayden Coston
I want to ask you about the detainee swap the Trump administration made last week. They exchanged more than 200 Venezuelan migrants whom they sent to a maximum security prison in EL SALVADOR For 10Americans detained in Venezuela. The administration has repeatedly insisted they had no control over the fates of these men because they were in Salvadoran custody. But obviously, this flies in the face of those claims. What can be done about that?
Robert Garcia
I think one clearly, I mean, the Trump administration has been lying about this whole situation the entire time. Those. Those folks should never have been in El Salvador. Look at someone like Andre Romero, right? That. The gay Venezuelan who was seeking asylum. Why was he right?
Jayden Coston
You've been in touch with his legal team. Have you been able to speak with Andriy?
Robert Garcia
I haven't spoken with him directly. I expect to at some point, hopefully in the next few days. I know that he just got in touch with his family, and so we're obviously letting him do that. I have been talking to his legal team. His family is very aware of our efforts, and so is he. And so the important thing here is that the Trump administration, as we know, has been hiding those contracts with El Salvador. We have no idea what the actual agreements actually were. We don't know what happened to these men yet. We want to find out. And so there is a lot of investigation that needs to happen in this case. We will absolutely be on this as part as the Oversight Committee. Right now, though, we want to give some of these men the space to actually reconnect with their family. And we're just grateful that they're alive and that Andrew's alive.
Jayden Coston
There is another battle brewing over a potential government shutdown at the end of September. Democrats came out bruised from the last one. What do you think Democrats should do differently this time?
Robert Garcia
Well, I think the most important thing is that we've got to focus on the fact that the people that control the government are the Republicans. So if there's any sort of shutdown, that's going to be on Republicans. We want to make sure that programs are funded. We want to make sure people have jobs. We want to make sure that when people call Social Security, when people call any federal office for support, that they actually have someone helping them. And Republicans, unfortunately, don't care about government, as we know. And so I think a lot of them want to shut the government down. And so we've got to be very aware of that fact. And ideally, we can come up with some type of agreement that keeps the government open and funds the programs that need to get funded. So that's what we're working towards.
Jayden Coston
Do Democrats have any leverage to extract concessions from Republicans to keep the government open? Because, as you just said, there are a lot of Republicans who probably want the government to shut down, too.
Robert Garcia
I think we do have. We have some leverage. That's going to depend, though, on what Republicans that consider themselves, you know, more centrist, which I think is kind of a joke, but that's what they call themselves and see if they're willing to actually work with on some of these funding packages. I'm not optimistic that we are actually going to get Republicans to play along. I think we have to be very concerned that they want a government shutdown, that they're barreling towards one. And so I think Democrats got to engage. We cannot just settle for a complete destruction of government programs. We have to stand our ground. But it's Republicans that will be, in my opinion, completely responsible if we end up having a shutdown. They control every branch of government, and they've gotta be held accountable for that.
Jayden Coston
But is the party ready to risk a shutdown this time around, though? Cause last time I realized that this was the Senate, but Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer threatened one and then didn't. Do you think it'll be different this time?
Robert Garcia
I think Democrats have to do whatever it takes to stop Donald Trump and save as much of our government and our programs as possible. Everything's gotta be on the table for us. We cannot run away from being able to stand our ground and fight back on what Republicans clearly want to do. We've got to push. And so if it's going to mean supporting our government, I think that's gotta be an option on the table for us.
Jayden Coston
Representative Garcia, thank you so much for joining me.
Robert Garcia
Absolutely. Thank you.
Jayden Coston
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No, unfortunately, President Trump was not talking about the hefty novel by Russian author Leo Tolstoy. Trump hosted Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos Jr. At the White House on Tuesday. Marcos spoke highly of the US to reporters in the Oval Office ahead of their private meeting. Of course, we're all very happy to be here to once again reaffirm the very strong ties between Philippines and the United States. Ties as it go back over 100 years and considering the context in which we live these days, especially in my.
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This has evolved into as important a relationship as it's possible to have. And then Trump went and announced on Truth Social, of course, that the US would impose a 19% tariff rate for the Philippines, which is down from a 20% tariff Trump threatened starting August 1st. I mean, that's technically lower. In return, Trump said the Philippines would have an open market and the US Would not pay tariffs. I'm no economist, but this loose framework of a deal doesn't seem super fair. And without further details confirming the terms, it's unclear how the agreement will impact both countries economies. Trump wrote on Truth Social that Marcos's visit was beautiful and that it was an honor to host such a very good and tough negotiator. The President also said the US and the Philippines would work together militarily. The announcement comes as the two nations seek closer security and economic ties in the face of shifting geopolitics in the Indo Pacific region. Alina Haba is out of a job. Maybe. 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Title: What A Day
Host: Jane Coaston
Episode: Mike Johnson Staves Off Epstein Vote
Release Date: July 23, 2025
What A Day, hosted by Jane Coaston, dives into pressing political and global issues, steering clear of superficial trends to provide listeners with in-depth reporting and analysis. In this episode, the focus is on the GOP's maneuvering to avoid transparency in the Jeffrey Epstein case, Democratic strategies to counteract Republican moves, international crises, and other significant news events.
The episode opens with host Jayden Coston highlighting the Republican Party's efforts to sidestep votes on releasing materials related to the Jeffrey Epstein case. Speaker Mike Johnson declared, “we're done being lectured on transparency” (00:02), signaling the GOP's reluctance to engage further on the matter. This move has led to an early summer recess for House lawmakers, anticipating an impasse over Democratic and some Republican proposals urging the Department of Justice to divulge more Epstein-related documents.
Jane Coaston interviews California Democratic Congressman Robert Garcia, the ranking member on the House Oversight Committee, to discuss the ramifications of the GOP's stance.
GOP’s Avoidance Tactics: Garcia criticizes Speaker Johnson, stating, “This is total insanity” (03:31), emphasizing that Republicans are attempting to shield Donald Trump from accountability regarding the Epstein files.
Democrats' Commitment to Transparency: Despite challenges, Garcia asserts, “We are not going to rest until we have a full release of the files” (07:03), underscoring the Democratic resolve to ensure transparency, regardless of the complexities introduced by figures like Ghislaine Maxwell.
Balancing National Issues: When questioned about prioritizing issues affecting everyday Americans, Garcia responds, “We can't stop talking about healthcare. We can't stop talking about taxes for billionaires, and we should certainly not stop talking about Trump's corruption” (05:44). He argues that addressing corruption ties directly into pressing national concerns such as healthcare, housing, and economic disparities.
The discussion shifts to the recent detainee swap orchestrated by the Trump administration, where over 200 Venezuelan migrants were exchanged for 10 Americans held in El Salvador.
Critique of the Administration’s Handling: Garcia condemns the administration's actions, highlighting, “The Trump administration has been lying about this whole situation the entire time” (08:15). He stresses the need for transparency and accountability regarding the fate of the detainees and the legitimacy of the agreements made with El Salvador.
Ongoing Investigations: He assures that the Oversight Committee will continue to investigate, stating, “We want to find out. And so there is a lot of investigation that needs to happen in this case” (08:32).
Addressing fears of a government shutdown, especially after Democrats’ experiences with the last shutdown, Garcia discusses strategies to prevent another crisis.
Republican Accountability: “They control every branch of government, and they've gotta be held accountable for that” (10:10). Garcia emphasizes that Republicans bear the responsibility for any potential shutdown due to their control over government branches.
Negotiation Efforts: While optimistic about Democratic leverage, Garcia remains cautious, saying, “I’m not optimistic that we are actually going to get Republicans to play along” (10:10). He advocates for steadfastness in protecting government programs and ensuring essential services remain funded.
The podcast also touches upon the severe humanitarian situation in Gaza, where United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres has issued warnings about mass starvation.
UN's Alarm: “Deadly malnutrition among children in the region has reached catastrophic levels” (13:30), highlighting the urgent need for unrestricted aid to alleviate the suffering.
International Condemnation: With over 1,000 casualties at food distribution sites since May, Western nations have condemned Israel's methodical aid distribution, accusing it of stripping Gazans of their dignity.
Another significant news segment covers President Trump’s meeting with Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos Jr. and the ensuing trade tariff announcement.
Tariff Details: Trump announced a reduction in tariff rates for the Philippines from 20% to 19%, ostensibly to foster better trade relations. However, the lack of comprehensive details leaves the potential economic impact ambiguous.
Military Cooperation: Emphasizing strategic alliances, Trump stated, “The US and the Philippines would work together militarily” (15:31), aiming to strengthen ties in the Indo-Pacific region amidst shifting geopolitical dynamics.
The episode delves into the controversial removal of Alina Haba, who served as President Trump's defense lawyer and was appointed as the top federal prosecutor in New Jersey.
In a departure from political discourse, the host addresses President Trump’s unfounded announcement on Truth Social regarding Coca-Cola’s ingredient changes.
Concluding the episode, the podcast pays homage to the legendary musician Ozzy Osbourne, who passed away at 76.
This episode of What A Day provides a comprehensive overview of significant political maneuvers within Congress, the Democratic response to GOP strategies, pressing international issues, and notable events beyond the political sphere. Through insightful interviews and in-depth analysis, listeners gain a nuanced understanding of the complexities shaping today's socio-political landscape.
This summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from the episode, providing listeners with a clear and comprehensive overview of the topics covered.