Netanyahu Bucks Trump's Board Of Peace

Summary

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Podcast Summary:

What A Day
Episode: Netanyahu Bucks Trump's Board Of Peace
Date: August 10, 2026
Host: Jane Coaston
Guest: Aaron David Miller (Senior Fellow, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace)

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Episode Overview

This episode explores the latest collapse in President Trump's much-touted Gaza peace process, focusing on Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's public rejection of a US-brokered plan for disarmament and Israeli withdrawal from Gaza. Host Jane Coaston conducts a substantive interview with veteran Middle East negotiator Aaron David Miller, dissecting why the so-called Board of Peace is ineffective, the regional and political realities involved, and what it suggests about US foreign policy and Trump's leadership. The episode also briefly reviews top news stories, including domestic election happenings and the President’s “Patriot Games,” before digging deep into the Gaza situation.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

The Failed Gaza Peace Plan and Netanyahu’s Rejection

• The Board of Peace Deal: Trump and the Board of Peace announced an apparent breakthrough— a "15-point plan" for Hamas to disarm and for Israel to withdraw from Gaza.

  • Aaron David Miller (07:32):
    • The plan grew from an earlier, ambitious 20-point peace roadmap.
    • Phase one, a ceasefire and hostage release, was achieved, but subsequent progress stalled.
    • The demilitarization of Hamas and Israeli withdrawal were the core points, but both sides set mutually exclusive conditions: Hamas would only disarm upon Israeli withdrawal, while Israel required Hamas to disarm first.
    • Netanyahu delayed his response for political reasons—balancing his right-wing base and keeping Trump engaged—but ultimately rejected the deal as “fictitious disarmament.”

• The Stalemate Explained:

  • Aaron David Miller (09:59):
    • Drawing on historical analogies like the Northern Ireland peace process, Miller underscores that such disarmament is only possible with political will, international oversight, and mutual trust—none of which exist in Gaza.
    • “In my judgment, this plan is tethered in current circumstances to a galaxy far, far away, not to the realities back here on planet Earth.”

The Board of Peace’s Powers and Limits

• Who Holds Real Power?

  • Aaron David Miller (13:59):
    • Real implementation power lies with the parties themselves—Hamas, the Israeli government, intermediaries, and most crucially, the US President.
    • The Board is “an artificial construct,” largely dependent on Trump and Netanyahu’s willingness to act.
    • Even though the Board is enshrined in a UN resolution and has a formal structure, its funding is shaky and its authority only as real as the key players choose it to be.
    • “It is only as weak or strong as Netanyahu and Trump want to be in terms of making it work or not.”

• Peace Process Stability Reality Check

  • Despite a ceasefire, Israeli strikes continue and over a thousand Palestinians have been killed since. Miller argues it’s inaccurate to call this a true peace process while daily violence persists (16:07).

American Involvement, Leadership, and the Reality of Peacemaking

• Limits of US Leverage in the Middle East:

  • Aaron David Miller (16:07):
    • The US rarely achieves true success in the region because, for Washington, the stakes are rarely existential, unlike for regional actors.
    • Historical efforts (e.g., Carter, Camp David, Oslo) often failed because true risk remained local, not in DC.
    • “The Middle east is littered literally with the remains of great powers who believe they can impose their will on smaller ones.”
    • Uses the Eagles’ song “Hotel California” as a metaphor: “You can check out anytime, but you can never leave.”

• Netanyahu’s Political Stakes and Possible Aftermath

  • Facing an October election, Netanyahu’s future is on the line; losing could mean jail or a plea deal (18:51).
  • Miller argues Netanyahu has undermined US-Israel relations and civil Israeli politics, surrounding himself with extreme right-wing ministers.
  • The next government could potentially be more moderate, offering a chance for a shift, but true progress would require “leaders who are masters of their politics, not prisoners of their ideologies.”
  • On Trump’s leadership:
    • Miller dismisses the idea that unqualified appointees (e.g., Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff) can broker peace in such complex conflicts.
    • “Those would be heavy lifts even for a talented negotiator like Henry Kissinger or my former boss James Baker. But as you suggested, Donald Trump is easily distracted and… not uniquely suited to playing the role of Middle East peacemaker.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Fragile Peace Plan:

  • “This plan is tethered in current circumstances to a galaxy far, far away, not to the realities back here on planet Earth.”
    — Aaron David Miller (09:59)

• On US Policy Failures:

  • “The Middle east is littered literally with the remains of great powers who believe they can impose their will on smaller ones.”
    — Aaron David Miller (16:07)

• On Netanyahu:

  • “… he’s done more to undermine the US Israeli relationship, Israeli internal politics, suck the civility out of them… [surrounds himself with] racists, Jewish supremacists who are committed to annexing the West Bank…”
    — Aaron David Miller (18:51)

• On Leadership and Peacemaking:

  • “It's going to take leaders like that and a leader in Washington who understands that dealing with the Israelis, you have to apply ample amounts of honey to be sure. But at times you're going to have to apply vinegar.”
    — Aaron David Miller (21:21)

• Classic Metaphor:

  • “I don't know if you're a rock and roll fan, but I'm an Eagles fan. And the iconic song Hotel California. Right. I mean, you can check out anytime, but you can never leave. We're stuck in this region.”
    — Aaron David Miller (00:00, repeated at 16:40)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Opening and News Roundup: (00:00–04:55)

  • Includes Trump’s comments on Iran, the salmonella outbreak, election primaries, and “Patriot Games.”

• Background on the Gaza Peace Deal: (04:55–07:32)

  • Jane summarizes the Board of Peace announcement and its rapid collapse.

• Deep Dive: The Board of Peace & Netanyahu’s Rejection

  • Miller on the plan’s content & fatal flaws: (07:32–09:59)
  • Why peace under current circumstances is impossible: (09:59–11:04)

• Board’s Powers & Ongoing Violence in Gaza: (13:46–16:11)

  • Limits of the Board; reality of violence despite the “peace process.”

• American Foreign Policy & Intractability of the Middle East: (16:07–18:51)

  • US limitations, Netanyahu’s political calculus, and prospects for Israeli leadership.

• Leadership Needed for Peace, Critique of Trump’s Role: (18:51–22:01)

  • Miller’s call for true leadership, skepticism about Trump and appointees’ abilities.

• Closing and Call to Action: (22:01–24:00)

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Tone and Style Observations

• Jane Coaston’s Tone: Direct, wry, and occasionally darkly humorous. (“I do not volunteer. As tribute... May the odds be ever in your favor.”)
• Aaron David Miller’s Tone: Analytical, historically grounded, candid—frequently punctuated with metaphors and wry references (“Hotel California,” “galaxy far, far away”).

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Summary Takeaways

• The Trump administration’s Gaza peace deal collapsed because its prerequisites for disarmament and withdrawal were mutually exclusive and lacked genuine buy-in from either side.
• The Board of Peace—touted by Trump as a historic innovation—is ultimately symbolic without the political will and implementation capacity from Israel, Hamas, or sustained American muscle.
• The ongoing violence in Gaza and Netanyahu’s political survival tactics override incremental diplomatic proposals.
• US attempts at peacemaking continue to falter, hindered by domestic politics, the existential stakes for local actors, and—under Trump—an impulsive, distracted style of leadership.
• Real resolution, if it ever comes, demands rare leadership on all fronts: leaders “who are masters of their politics, not prisoners of their ideologies.”

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Transcript

[Aaron David Miller]

You know, I don't know if you're a rock and roll fan, but I'm an Eagles fan. And the iconic song Hotel California. Right. I mean, you can check out anytime, but you can never leave. We're stuck in this region. We have allies, we have adversaries, we have interests. But we have to be very careful about how we deploy our power, our military power and our diplomatic power. And we're not. That's the problem. We're not careful.

[Jane Coaston]

I'm Jane Coston, and this is what a day. The show that has learned that Defense Secretary Little boy Pete Hegseth is the least popular cabinet member. According to CNN, Hegseth is 22 points underwater. In fact, not only is he the most unpopular cabinet member, he's even more unpopular than former cabinet members like ex Attorney General Pam Bondi and ex Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. Pete Hegseth making Kristi Noem look popular. On today's show, we talk about President Donald Trump's continued failures in Gaza with the Carnegie Institute's Aaron David Miller. Before we get into the board of Peace that can't Peace, here's what we're following today. Monday, July 10th.

[Interviewer]

Mr. President, in addition to this big announcement, you've also been posting about Iran today, opposing their latest demands. You said this last round of talks was Iran's last chance before decapitation. So what now? What now?

[Donald Trump]

You'll find out. You'll find out.

[Interviewer]

Are you still a massive escalation? Is that still on the table?

[Donald Trump]

Well, we have that certainly that ability if we want to do that. Yeah, you'll find out.

[Jane Coaston]

Trump's war on Iran may have begun with more than a dozen explanations, but most recently, the Trump administration has stuck to one message. We have to stop Iran from ever developing a nuclear weapon, and that must be part of a settlement to end the war. But according to the Wall Street Journal, that must has been downgraded to a nice to have think of the Iran war like an apartment. Trump has decided that actually it's fine if there's no washer, dryer and unit or a dishwasher or windows. On Sunday, the Journal reported that Trump has told aides that Iran is unlikely to advance its nuclear ambitions during his presidency after the US Bombed its main nuclear sites last year and US Intelligence would warn American officials if Iran did otherwise. Instead, Trump is laser focused on a new reopening, the Strait of Hormuz, which was of course, open before the war began. What will it take to get the strait reopened? According to Iranian state media ending the war, paying reparations for war damages and lifting all sanctions against the country. So it's safe to say that the strait is probably staying closed. Move over Cyclospora. There's a new outbreak in town. The Food and Drug Administration and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are investigating multistate incidences of salmonella infections. The spread of the bacterial infection is linked to fresh jalapenos from Sinaloa, Mexico, and supplied by coast citrus distributors. Taylor Fresh Foods, the parent company of Taylor Farms, is voluntarily recalling some products that include jalapenos because of worries about possible contamination. Remember Taylor Farms? The company said it's no longer sourcing products from the farmer and recalled items including guacamole, pico de gallo and taco dip. First they come for our lettuce, now it's our jalapenos. I beg of you, please leave my tomatoes alone. We're checking more states off our primary election calendar. Voters are set to turnout for races in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Vermont and Connecticut tomorrow. Some of the races are taking the pulse of the Democratic Party. Here's the lowdown. In Wisconsin, voters will decide a high profile clash between the Democratic establishment and progressive wings in a gubernatorial primary. State Representative Francesca Hong, a Democratic socialist, has emerged as a top contender for the nomination. In neighboring Minnesota, voters are choosing between moderate U.S. representative Angie Craig and progressive Lt. Governor Peggy Flanagan in a Democratic U.S. senate primary. Two veteran Democratic incumbents in Connecticut are facing strong challenges within the party to redefine the Democratic brand ahead of the midterms by replacing old guard figures with younger and often more progressive alternatives. Are you sensing a theme here? And in Vermont, Democrats will try to do something they've been unable to do in five previous attempts nominate a gubernatorial candidate who can beat Republican Governor Phil Scott. A lot is going on. That's not to mention Alabama and South Carolina are holding special elections as well.

[Donald Trump]

In the fall, we will host the first ever Patriot Games, an unprecedented four day athletic event featuring the greatest high school athletes, one young man and one young woman from each state and territory.

[Jane Coaston]

I do not volunteer. As tribute, President Trump previewed the Patriot Games last year as part of the country's 250th birthday celebrations. And the Hunger Games jokes have not let up since. Anyway, the Games finally kicked off in Ohio on Sunday. The Freedom 250 website notes that kids 14 to 17 years old will compete in a slew of activities, including a, quote, military inspired boot camp circuit. They'll also take part in team sports like kickball, dodgeball and Tug of war. According to Freedom250, a $250,000 scholarship prize pool will be split between a male and female winner. And guess what? White House Press secretary Caroline Levitt said, our fearless leader Donald Trump will be at the Games Tuesday. No pressure, kids. May the odds be ever in your favor. And that's the news. Let's talk about Gaza. Last month, Trump bragged on Truth Social that he, well, the Board of Peace, of which he is the chairman, had accomplished a monumental breakthrough. He wrote on July 30, quote, Today, the Board of Peace reached a historic agreement for the complete disarmament of Hamas and all other armed groups in Gaza. This is a monumental step toward lasting peace and security. And yes, a lot of this post was in all caps. Now, I told you about this development and I told you that the, quote, agreement had every chance of falling apart because Hamas and the Israeli government were stuck in a classic standoff. Hamas would only disarm if Israel would stop all attacks, withdraw from the territory and increase the amount of aid allowed inside. But Israel would only withdraw after a full disarmament by Hamas. You can see the problem here. So it wasn't very surprising when on Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu very publicly turned down the deal, saying in a meeting with government officials that he would only accept, quote, genuine disarmament, not fictitious disarmament. Israel, by the way, is still striking Gaza on a near daily basis. So not only are we nowhere near a peace deal, we're not even close to peace. To talk more about the failures of Trump and the Board of Peace, I spoke to Aaron David Miller, senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace with a focus on US Foreign policy. He is a former State Department Middle east negotiator in both Republican and Democratic administrations. Aaron, welcome to what a day, Jen,

[Aaron David Miller]

it's great to be here with you.

[Jane Coaston]

So the Board of Peace and Donald Trump thought they had reached a groundbreaking peace deal with Hamas back in July. They just needed Israel sign off. But this weekend, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu publicly rejected the plan. Can you remind me what was in this deal?

[Aaron David Miller]

Yeah, the 15 point plan that the President claimed was on the verge of historic breakthrough was part of a 20 point plan which the President unveiled way back in October of 2025. And to his credit, I mean, phase one of that plan was implemented. Freedom of the hostages and the end of the war as the Israelis had waged it in Gaza in the wake of October 7th. Even more than 1100 Palestinians have been killed since the ceasefire. And the word of peace under the actually quite talented Nicholas Madanov, who is the high representative for Gaza, was sort of a liaison with the parties. Hamas, on one hand, the Kiyar mediators, the Qataris, the Egyptians, the Turks, and of course the Israelis came up with a 15 point plan focused on two central issues. Demilitarization of Hamas, decommissioning of weapons, including the tunnel structure which is estimated to be what, a third of the length of the New York subway system. Small arms, heavy weapons in exchange for Israeli withdrawal. Hamas accepted the plan, I think with conditions that the Israelis would agree to withdrawal. The Prime Minister took nine days to respond. I think that probably was a function of the fact that he was looking for a way to tread the very fine line between his political right wing elections in less than 79 days in a very consequential election and keeping Donald Trump on his side on the other. He's clearly managed to succeed since the President has said nothing. And at least two senior US officials in the White House said that they understand Netanyahu's political constraints. And as long as he plays by the rules, that is to say no unilateral Israeli escalation in Gaza. This is probably not going to create a crisis in U. S. Israeli relationship.

[Jane Coaston]

You mentioned this deal required demilitarization of Hamas and Israeli withdrawal. But it seemed pretty clear that Hamas would not agree to disarm even just heavy armaments unless Israel withdrew. And Israel would not agree to withdraw unless Hamas disarmed. And to that point, Netanyahu said on Sunday that they would not consider withdrawal until Hamas demilitarized completely all arms. So was this plan ever going to work?

[Aaron David Miller]

In my judgment, unless you had leaders that were actually invested and cared about it and were prepared to make the tough decisions to make it work, the answer is no. Look, the gold standard for demic commissioning occurred in Northern Ireland and Britain in the wake of the 1998 Good Friday Agreement. It took seven years for the Protestant paramilitaries and the IRA to agree to decommission. That was done at international auspices. Very talented Canadian general. They pursued a verification process which was not designed to humiliate either of the armed groups. And before any decommissioning began, there was a political agreement that offered the political analogues of the Protestant paramilitaries, the Unionists and the Nationalists and the IRA a role in governance. None of these things exist in Gaza today. So short answer your question, in my judgment, this plan is tethered in current circumstances to a galaxy far, far away, not to the realities back here on planet Earth.

[Jane Coaston]

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[Jane Coaston]

Let's get back to my conversation with Aaron David Miller. Let me back up for a second and talk about the Board of Peace. What powers does it have and what powers does it not have to get Gaza towards some form of stability Somehow?

[Aaron David Miller]

The power of implementation does not lie in the board. It lies in the willingness and capacity of Hamas, on one hand, the current government of Israel, on the other, the mediators, and most important, the President of the United States. It was Donald Trump who basically said to Benjamin Netanyahu in October 2025 when Netanyahu was vacillating about whether to accept the ceasefire, if you don't agree to this, we will walk away from you. So Donald Trump has said things and done things in and around Israel and this prime minister that none of his predecessors have ever done. But I think it's almost inconceivable to me, given that Hamas is the other interlocutor, that Donald Trump would squeeze the Israelis unless Hamas made some real moves on withdrawal. And as you said, it's all tied up in this chicken and egg catch 22 linked to withdrawal as opposed to decommissioning. So in the end, the Board of Peace is an artificial construct. I think it's funded through pledges, most of which have not been received. It is under the control of the President, who is chairman of the Board. It is ensconced in a UN Security Council resolution which gives it some relevance. But let's be clear, it's only as weak and strong as Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump want to be in terms of making it work or not making it work.

[Jane Coaston]

My understanding was that the Board of Peace was intended to act as the entity overseeing the Gaza peace process, the rebuilding, the stabilization of that territory. But you already said 1100 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli airstrikes and Israeli military action since the ceasefire. So can we even say that that peace process has begun because Israel is still striking the territory?

[Aaron David Miller]

The answer is no. Remember, we are talking even by Israeli stats now, including the Hamas controlled Palestinian Ministry of Health. We're talking about 70,000 Palestinians killed. And even if 20 to 25,000 are Hamas fighters, you're dealing with an exponential rise of civilian deaths. Right. And it's a cautionary tale, which in this region it's more often a case of where American ideas of war making and Peacemaking go to die. I mean, I worked for administration, Jimmy Carter to Bush 43. It's rare that the United States achieves a success in this region, in large part because for Washington, the state stakes are never really existential. For these smaller, non state actors, Hamas, Hezbollah, Israel, Iran, it's not a question of political legacy or re election only. You know, Anwar Sadat paid for his life with the Egyptian Israeli peace treaty. Rabin did the same for the Oslo process. At the last Camp David summit in July 2000, I heard Arafat say at least four times that you will not get a chance to walk behind my coffin, which is customary in Arab funerals. So I'm not sure we understand fully that the Middle east is littered literally with the remains of great powers who believe they can impose their will on smaller ones. I don't know if you're a rock and roll fan, but I'm an Eagles fan. And the iconic song Hotel California. Right. I mean, you can check out anytime, but you can never leave. We're stuck in this region. We have allies, we have adversaries, we have interests. But we have to be very careful about how we deploy our power, our military power and our diplomatic power. And we're not. That's the problem. We're not careful.

[Jane Coaston]

Yeah. And I think to that point, it's interesting because you can tell that Trump is getting bored with this. He's bored with having to be engaged in this. He's bored with having to think about it. But, you know, for Israel and for Hamas, this is quite literally life or death. And for Netanyahu, it is a matter, as you've been mentioning, of his political future. So he's facing an election in October. You mentioned that there's a good chance that if he loses, he could go to jail or sign a plea agreement. That means he's out of politics. If Netanyahu is voted out of power in October, where does that leave the US End its war with Iran and its involvement in Gaza?

[Aaron David Miller]

Well, in my judgment, and again, I worked with Netanyahu in his first incarnation as prime minister. He's done more to undermine the US Israeli relationship. Israeli internal politics, suck the civility out of them. He's got ministers who are racists, Jewish supremacists who are committed to annexing the west bank now in everything, including in name. And I think that having governed Israel 15 out of the last 17 years, the longest governing prime minister in the history of the state of Israel, it's time for Netanyahu to go. Now. What or who could succeed him is another matter. But the first order of business, they tell me, if you're in a hole, is to stop digging. So I would argue that the next government, if it is a center right government with politicians who are not on trial or who are not strenuously ideological, who don't have to cater to the interests of Itamar Ben GVIR and Bezalel Smotrich, these two ministers that I refer to, you could get an Israeli government that is interested in sort of righting the ship. But let's be clear, it's going to take a long time. And big leaders, because that's in the end, is what it's all about. It's about Sadat and Begin. It's about Rabin and even Arafat in his first incarnation. It's about Mandela and de Klerk. Leaders who are masters of their politics, not prisoners of their ideologies, who understand the past, but are mindful of the fact that if anything is going to be done, somehow the trauma, the historical wounding, the injustices that Israelis and Palestinians have inflicted upon one another need to be somehow corrected. It's going to take leaders like that and a leader in Washington who understands that dealing with the Israelis, you have to apply ample amounts of honey to be sure. But at times you're going to have to apply vinegar. And that's not entirely understood today, even though you have an American president who, as I mentioned, has done and said things that none of his predecessors have even come close to saying. You cannot deploy your son in law and your best friend Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff to negotiate the three, three of the more intractable conflicts in the international system. Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Gaza and the US And Iran. And they failed at each of these. Those would be heavy lifts even for a talented negotiator like Henry Kissinger or my former boss James Baker. But as you suggested, Donald Trump is easily distracted and he, well, there are any number of other reasons why it seems to me he's not uniquely suited to playing the role of Middle east peacemaker.

[Jane Coaston]

Aaron, thank you so much for taking the time to join me.

[Aaron David Miller]

Jen, thanks so much. It was great being here with you.

[Jane Coaston]

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