Sen. Mark Warner Won’t Miss Kristi Noem

Summary

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What A Day – "Sen. Mark Warner Won’t Miss Kristi Noem"

Podcast Host: Jane Coaston
Date: March 6, 2026
Guest: Senator Mark Warner (D-VA)

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Episode Overview

This episode unpacks the firing of Kristi Noem as Secretary of Homeland Security by President Donald Trump, her controversial tenure, and broader ramifications for the Trump administration’s approach to governance—particularly regarding the ongoing U.S. war with Iran. Jane Coaston is joined by Senator Mark Warner for a candid discussion about what led to Noem's ousting, the legality and motivations behind current foreign policy decisions, and the growing concerns in Congress about executive overreach. The episode balances sharp political analysis with a critical look at the ramifications on both domestic and international levels.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kristi Noem's Firing as DHS Secretary

[00:00–03:55]

• President Trump fired Noem via a Truth Social post, reassigning her to a newly-created position: “Special Envoy for the Shield of the Americas.”
• Possible reasons for her dismissal include numerous scandals:
  • Controversial photo shoots and raids seemingly staged for media attention.
  • False claims about citizens' involvement in terrorism.
  • A $200+ million federal ad campaign starring herself.
• It appears Noem's self-aggrandizing ad campaign, rather than policy failures or ethical breaches, finally led to her departure.

Jane Coaston [03:38]: "You've often criticized Noem’s leadership. You've called on her to resign. What’s your take on this?"

Sen. Warner [03:55]: "What the hell took him so long?...You talk about Kristi Noem being way beyond her skill level and being such an awful face for a department that had kind of run amok. I'm glad she's gone."

2. The $200 Million Promulgation Problem

[04:26–05:16]

• Warner underscores the absurdity and wastefulness of Noem's taxpayer-funded publicity campaign, noting that Trump's ego is unlikely to tolerate being upstaged.

Sen. Warner [04:40]: "One thing about Donald Trump, we all know that he doesn't like anybody else on the stage. And whether he knew that campaign was out there or not...obviously was not the case."

3. Cabinet Confirmations and Trump’s Approach to Legal Norms

[05:16–06:08]

• Trump announced Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) as Noem’s replacement, but Warner stresses the legal requirement for Senate confirmation—a process Trump seems inclined to ignore.

Sen. Warner [05:28]: "You just can’t stick somebody in as a Cabinet official without getting congressional approval. My fear, though, is that, you know, Trump may feel like to heck with Congress entirely..."

4. America’s War with Iran: Motivation, Messaging, and Consequences

[06:08–10:15]

• Warner is unequivocal: "We are at war. We are at war of choice."
  • Warns there was no imminent threat from Iran.
  • Trump’s justifications for the attack have been inconsistent—ranging from nuclear fears to regime change.
  • Warner worries about a potential humanitarian disaster if protests erupt in Iran and questions whether the U.S. would feel compelled to act further.

Sen. Warner [06:25]: "We are at war. We are at war of choice. There was no imminent threat to America from the Iranians..."

• Another concern: inadequate evacuation of American citizens from the region, with other nations outperforming the U.S. on this front.

Sen. Warner [08:32]: "If you’re going to choose to go to war on your own timeline, why...didn’t you tell all of the Americans in the region, get out?...This was his war of choice."

5. The Hidden Costs of War and Domestic Consequences

[09:59–11:17]

• The war has already cost over $5 billion (per the Center for American Progress report).
• Warner resists unconditional support for emergency military funding, highlighting administration failures on domestic health care, the economic pressure on Americans, and galloping gas prices triggered by the conflict:

Sen. Warner [10:15]: "If President Trump is choosing this war against Iran, yet he chose not to help millions of Americans maintain their healthcare...anyone in their right mind would know that is going to drive up gasoline prices...he’s driving prices up even further for Americans."

6. Congressional Oversight and the Party of Trump

[11:17–12:02]

• Both House and Senate voted down War Powers resolutions, effectively enabling Trump's unchecked military action.
• Warner is deeply critical of GOP complicity:

Sen. Warner [11:31]: "I have lost so much faith in my Republican friends...they all fall in line. I'm not sure there is a Republican Party anymore, but there is simply a party of Trump acolytes and that's not good for our country."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "What the hell took him so long?... I'm glad she's gone."
  — Senator Mark Warner [03:55], on Kristi Noem's overdue dismissal.
• "We are at war. We are at war of choice. There was no imminent threat to America from the Iranians..."
  — Senator Mark Warner [06:25], on the Iran conflict.
• "It’s a hell of a lot easier to get into a war in the Middle East than it is to get out of a war."
  — Senator Mark Warner [08:32], on the perils of escalation.
• "I'm not sure there is a Republican Party anymore, but there is simply a party of Trump acolytes and that's not good for our country."
  — Senator Mark Warner [11:31], reflecting on political polarization and weakened Congressional oversight.

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Kristi Noem fired, controversy recap – [00:00–03:35]
• Senator Warner’s reaction/interview begins – [03:35]
• On Noem’s self-promoting ad campaign – [04:26]
• Concerns about Cabinet confirmations and Congressional approval – [05:16]
• State of war with Iran & failed justifications – [06:08–08:32]
• Consequences of war for Americans abroad – [08:32–09:59]
• Costs of war and domestic impact – [09:59–11:17]
• Congress’s abdication of war authority – [11:17–12:02]
• Warner’s closing indictment of GOP complicity – [11:31]

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Additional Headlines Covered (Briefly)

[16:11–End]

• House narrowly defeats a war powers resolution—Congress cedes responsibility for war decisions.
• States sue over Trump’s new global tariffs.
• GOP calls on Texas Rep. Tony Gonzalez to drop out of reelection after scandal.
• Trump's White House ballroom project delayed after overwhelming public opposition.
• Connecticut Sen. Blumenthal investigating Kristi Noem for possible perjury over advertisement funding claims.

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains the show's signature blend of sharp analysis, acerbic humor, and urgency about the erosion of democratic norms. Coaston probes for clarity and accountability, while Warner’s responses blend exasperation with policy gravitas.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is a compelling, fast-paced analysis of a pivotal week in U.S. politics: Kristi Noem’s abrupt exit, the rubber-stamping of Trump’s war powers, and the continued decline of checks and balances in Washington. Senator Mark Warner offers a bracingly candid insider’s perspective, pulling back the curtain on the motivations, dangers, and political calculations shaping the headlines—making this essential listening for anyone concerned about American democracy in 2026.

Transcript

[Jane Coaston]

Foreign It's Friday, March 6th. I'm Jane Costen, and this is what a day. The show that says good luck to Lindsey Halligan, the former US Attorney who spent her brief tenure trying to charge President Donald Trump's enemies with crimes. She's now under investigation by Florida's Bar association. Good news, that could mean she'll get disbarred. Bad news, this is Florida, so maybe they'll give her a medal or something. On today's show, the House rubber stamps Trump's war with Iran by voting down a War Powers Resolution. And the public delays the president's expensive East Wing ballroom plans with a flood of negative comments. Preservationists rejoice. But let's start with Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. Or should I say ex Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. President Trump fired Noem on Thursday via True Social Post. Well, technically, he fired her and gave her a new job, quote, special envoy for the Shield of the Americas, a role that, according to the New York Times, did not exist before Thursday. Noem is the first of Trump's cabinet of terribles to lose her job this term. So what did it? I mean, there are so many options. Was it the photo shoot she did in a super prison in El Salvador last year, lying about a wrongly deported man so often, a district court judge told her to stop putting the weight of the Department of Homeland Security behind showy immigration raids designed to get clicks on social media. How about smearing two US Citizens shot to death by federal immigration officers in Minneapolis saying they had ties to domestic terrorism? Nope. Reportedly, it was probably related to a series of DHS ads starring Chris. You know, like this one. Anyone who searches for freedom can always find a home here. But that freedom's a precious thing, and we defend it vigorously. You cross the border illegally, we'll find you. Break our laws, we'll punish you. Harm American citizens, there will be consequences. But if you come here the right way, your American dream can be as big as these endless skies. From President Trump and me. Welcome home. That ad campaign cost taxpayers more than $200 million, but according to Kristi Noem, Donald Trump said it was a. Okay. Here she is, testifying under oath during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing Tuesday, responding to Louisiana Republican Senator John Kennedy.

[Senator Mark Warner]

I'm asking you. Sorry to interrupt, but the president approved ahead of time. You spending $220 million running TV ads across the country in which you are featured prominently?

[Jane Coaston]

Yes, sir. We went through the legal processes. Did it correct? Yes. But when Reuters asked Trump about the ads. He said, quote, I never knew anything about it. Or as Senator Kennedy told reporters on Thursday, quote, I want to put it this way, his recollection and her recollection are different. So Noem is out, and in her place, Trump wants Oklahoma Republican Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, most noted recently for being very unclear as to whether or not we're at war with Iran. Oh, yeah, right. We're still at war with Iran. So to talk more about Kristi Noem's exit and the war in Iran, I spoke with Virginia Democratic Senator Mark Warner. Senator Warner, welcome to What a day.

[Senator Mark Warner]

Yeah, it's been quite a day. It's been quite a week.

[Jane Coaston]

It has been, indeed. On Thursday, President Trump announced on Truth Social that he is replacing Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem with Republican Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. You've often criticized Noem's leadership. You've called on her to resign. What's your take on this?

[Senator Mark Warner]

What the hell took him so long? I've worked some with Mark Wayne Mullen. I don't know him really well. You know, I'll give him a fair look, but, boy, oh, boy, you talk about Kristi Noem being way beyond her skill level and being such an awful face for a department that had kind of run amok. I'm glad she's gone. I could give him a few more, like Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard and others that maybe would make it a better end of the week if he acted on them as well.

[Jane Coaston]

In your view, Senator, what do you think did it? Because it wasn't the deaths of two American citizens of Minneapolis. It wasn't any of the number of failures she's had over the last year. What do you think it was?

[Senator Mark Warner]

Well, I think what it was was that the fact that I'd seen some of these ads, these ridiculous spending of 200. I think it was $200 million of federal money to promote Krissy Noem. You know her in all of these crazy outfits and flashing lights. And one thing about Donald Trump, we all know that he doesn't like anybody else on the stage. And whether he knew that campaign was out there or not, the notion that, oh, yes, that she had Donald Trump's full approval for her publicity campaign, paid for by federal dollars, obviously was not the case.

[Jane Coaston]

Trump also said that Mueller will just take over the role, quote, effective March 31, but cabinet members have to be confirmed by the Senate. What has the president communicated to you or your colleagues about plans to appoint Mullen?

[Senator Mark Warner]

You know, I'M not on the Homeland Security Committee, so I don't know if there's been any formal process, but you just can't stick somebody in as a Cabinet official without getting congressional approval. My fear, though, is that, you know, Trump may feel like to heck with Congress entirely, since, as we saw, again, I think it was just yesterday, my Republican colleagues didn't even have the courage to stand up and say, hey, we're going to protect congressional's prerogative to take our nation into war, that it can't just be the president starting a war of choice. And what I fear is that, you know, Trump is so used to getting his way, he's not even paying lip service now to the law and Constitution.

[Jane Coaston]

You and I are joined on that. Senator, you're one of the few lawmakers who received brief advance notice about last weekend's strike on Iran, and you've received at least one additional briefing since then. I mean, you've already said it, but from your understanding, are we at war with Iran?

[Senator Mark Warner]

We are at war. We are at war of choice. There was no imminent threat to America from the Iranians, and we have had four different explanations given by Trump about why he chose to take us to war where we've already had six soldiers killed. He said, first of all, it's about Iran's nuclear capabilities, which earlier he had claimed we had obliterated last year in a strike. Then he was talking about ballistic missiles, which over time would pose some threat to America and to Israel. But there was no imminent threat in terms of volume. They then came out with this answer the other day of saying, oh, my gosh, it's about the Iranian navy. I'd never heard that one, but that was given in a briefing. And then it was about regime change. And here's my problem. If Trump had chosen to try to take an action like this in January, when millions of Iranians were on the street protesting against the brutal regime, and I have no love law or no tears will be shed for the Iranian leadership being eliminated. At least it would have made some connection. But the idea that he frankly couldn't at that point because the aircraft carrier he needed was off the coast of Venezuela on another military venture of his. And our European allies were properly focused on his threats to take over Greenland, but then now to choose to do this war. Now what I worry about is if he's saying, all right, Iranians, come to the streets. Take back your government. What happens if 100,000 protesters show up on the streets of Tehran and then the Iranian revolutionary Guard who are brutal, kill 5,000, 10,000, 20,000. Does America have an obligation then to put troops on the ground? This is what happens when you have a president and a team that doesn't think this through.

[Jane Coaston]

As you've just said, there have been so many mixed messages from the Trump administration and from the GOP as to what this is all about. We've heard simultaneously that this isn't about regime change, but Trump told Axios Thursday that he has to be, quote, involved in the appointment of Iran's new leader. So in your view, what is this about?

[Senator Mark Warner]

I think this is about Donald Trump choosing to go to war and in many ways, doing it on Israel's timetable. And I'm a supporter of Israel. But when you're talking about putting American troops in harm's way, you gotta show that there was imminent threat to America. There was not. And we've known one thing over the last 25 years. It's a hell of a lot easier to get into a war in the Middle east than it is to get out of a war. And I'm not sure what his ongoing plans are. And again, this is a relatively small example, but important. If you're going to choose to go to war on your own timeline, why in the heck didn't you tell all of the Americans in the region, get out? Why didn't you say to Americans, don't fly into the region? The number of Virginians I've had contact me that weren't even going to the Middle east, but they were flying through Doha or through Dubai, and when the bomb started, they got caught in those countries. We could have been prepared for that. And what's embarrassing is other nations have done a better job of getting their citizens out of the region than we have. Now, finally, that's starting to turn around a little bit. More flights are going in. I think most of the Virginians we've been in contact with at least got a plan on how to get out now. But why put them all through that stress when, again, this was his war of choice?

[Jane Coaston]

War is not just terrifying, it's expensive. A report from the center for American Progress this week estimated that military action in Iran has already cost more than $5 billion. If you were asked, would you vote to send emergency funding to the military?

[Senator Mark Warner]

I'd want to know how much they're asking for, what it's going to be used for, and I sure as heck would want to know. So I come into this with a lot of questions. I don't want to leave our troops in harm's way. But governing is about choices. If President Trump is choosing this war against Iran, yet he chose not to help millions of Americans maintain their healthcare. And he's got millions more who are going to be cut when the Medicaid cuts come through. When President Trump says I'm going to choose to go to war, anyone in their right mind would know that is going to drive up gasoline prices. Prices are already up 20 cents a gallon and they will go higher. When you make a choice like this as well, it sends shockwaves through the stock market. The one thing that he always looks to what is President Trump doing about affordability? Nothing. And if anything, by making this choice to go to war, he's driving prices up even further for Americans.

[Jane Coaston]

This week, the House and the Senate voted down war powers resolutions that could have required congressional approval for any further US Military action in Iran. What else can Congress do to rein in the president when it comes to Iran?

[Senator Mark Warner]

We can take back the House and the Senate in the fall. Short of that. And you know, I have been criticized many times, probably rightfully for being too bipartisan, but I have lost so much faith in my Republican friends that they're gonna do anything in a meaningful way to stand up to this president. One or two here or there. But when push comes to shove, they all fall in line. I'm not sure there is a Republican Party anymore, but there is simply a party of Trump acolytes and that's not good for our country.

[Jane Coaston]

Senator Warner, thank you so much for taking the time to join me.

[Senator Mark Warner]

Thank you so much.

[Jane Coaston]

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[Senator Mark Warner]

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[Jane Coaston]

Here's what else we're following today.

[Senator Mark Warner]

Head of Lines on this vote, the

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yeas are 212, the nays are 219.

[Senator Mark Warner]

The concurrent resolution is not adopted aka

[Jane Coaston]

on Thursday, the US House of Representatives voted down a war powers resolution to halt President Trump's attacks on Iran, closing any immediate chance for Congress to rein in the war. The Senate voted down a similar resolution Wednesday. House Speaker Mike Johnson touted the resolution's failure to reporters after the vote.

[Senator Mark Warner]

We are not at war. We have no intention of being at war. The president and the Department of Defense have made this very clear. The Department of War has made it very clear. This is a limited operation. It's an operation that's limited in its scope and duration.

[Jane Coaston]

Okay, can he tell the Trump administration, which keeps calling this a war? U.S. officials say the U.S. and Israel have hit more than 2,000 targets in Iran. They killed Iran's supreme leader, and the head of the Department of War bragged about sinking an Iranian ship 2000 miles away from Iran. Combined with Iran's retaliatory strikes. If that's not a war, what is? Kentucky Republican Representative Thomas Massie said in a tweet after the resolution failed, quote, we're being told this military action could last months. That's the exact circumstance in which the founders intended for Congress to authorize war. But sadly, we've now abdicated that responsibility again. Abdicated that responsibility again. Two dozen states are suing the Trump administration over its latest tariff gambit. In a lawsuit filed Thursday at the U.S. court of International Trade, the states argued that President Trump did not have the authority to impose 10% global tariffs that went into effect last month. The suit also targets increases Trump has threatened to add on top of those. Trump announced these particular tariffs literally hours after the Supreme Court struck down a different set he issued last year. The administration based the newer tariffs on a legally untested section of a 1974 trade law. The states say the tariffs are supposed to apply evenly, but Trump's played favorites by exempting some industries. They also say Congress wrote the law to apply these tariffs during a currency crisis that doesn't exist today. Fingers crossed that the courts deliver a repeat and once again strike down Trump's tariff. Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson is calling on Texas Republican Representative Tony Gonzalez to end his re election campaign. Johnson and other GOP House leaders asked Gonzalez to withdraw after he admitted to having an affair with his staffer, who later died by suicide. In a podcast interview about the affair, Gonzalez said, quote, I had absolutely nothing to do with her tragic passing. But he also used the interview to take digs of the staffer's husband and the couple's personal life because he's a piece of shit. Earlier this week, Gonzalez was forced into a runoff in the primary for his House seat. On Thursday, CNN reporter Manu Raju asked Mike Johnson why he has avoided calling for Gonzalez's resignation.

[Senator Mark Warner]

Leadership put out a statement. It speaks for itself. We've encouraged him to drop out of the race for reelection. I think that is the, you know, politically that's a death penalty, okay?

[Jane Coaston]

But the actual answer probably has a lot to do with the GOP's thing. Majority in the House. Another day, another profiling courage from Mike Johnson. President Trump's $400 million ballroom vanity project will have to wait a little longer for approval. That's despite the fact that the East Wing site is already demolished. The National Capital Planning Commission was scheduled to vote on a rebuild Thursday, but instead announced they'll wait until April. The chairman of the commission said he wants to give members of the public more time to voice their opinions, and they certainly have side Already, the Commission received roughly 32,000 public comments so far. The New York Times analyzed them and found that a whopping 98% are negative, which checks out considering that Trump's decision to demolish the East Wing was poorly planned and historically problematic. No surprise that White House press secretary Caroline Levitt is unfazed, though in a statement she told the Times, quote, these nasty comments are clearly stemming from an organized campaign of Trump deranged liberals who clearly have no style or taste, because that's what we've come to know. Trump taste. And that's the news. That's all for today. If you like the show, make sure you subscribe, leave a review, contemplate how Kristi Noem may soon face a perjury investigation, and tell your friends to listen. And if you're into reading and not just about how, remember when I said Noem was testifying under oath when she said that Trump totally approved her little too $200 million ad campaign? Well, Connecticut Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal is pushing to investigate her for lying to Congress like me. What a Day is also a nightly newsletter. Check it out and [e-mail] subscribe I'm Jayne Coaston and look, there are so many ways I'd like to see Kristi Noem face actual repercussions, but being hung out to dry for an ad campaign starring herself would be pretty funny. What a Day is a production of Crooked Media. It's recorded and mixed by Desmond Taylor. Our associate producer is Emily Foer. Our producer is Kaitlyn Plummer. Our video editor is Joseph Dutra. Our video producer is Johanna Case. We had production help today from Greg Walters, Matt Berg, Sean Ali and Ethan Oberman. Our senior producer is Erika Morrison and our senior Vice president of news and politics is Adrienne Hill. Our theme music is by Kyle Murdoch and Jordan Cantor. We had help today from the Associated Press. Our production staff is proudly unionized with the Writers Guild of America East.

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