What Happens When Trump's Lawyer Becomes America's Lawyer

Summary

Podcast Summary: What A Day - "What Happens When Trump's Lawyer Becomes America's Lawyer"

Date: July 16, 2026
Host: Jane Coaston
Guest: Laura Coates (CNN chief legal analyst & host, Laura Coates Live)
Theme: Examining the risks and implications of President Trump nominating his former personal attorney, Todd Blanche, as Attorney General, and what this means for the Department of Justice (DOJ), rule of law, and American democracy.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the confirmation hearings of Todd Blanche—Donald Trump’s former criminal defense attorney—who is seeking to become the next Attorney General. Host Jane Coaston brings on Laura Coates to provide in-depth analysis of what it means for a president’s personal lawyer to lead the DOJ: conflicts of interest, threats to the department’s independence, and changing standards in American governance. The discussion also covers current DOJ priorities under Trump, how prosecutorial discretion is being reshaped, and the impact on everyday justice.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Why Blanche's Nomination Is Different

• Traditionally, presidents appoint trusted advisors as Attorney General, but not usually personal attorneys with direct personal entanglements.

• Trump’s rationale is rooted in perceived "weaponization" of the DOJ against himself; he believes only loyalists can reverse this.

  Laura Coates [07:51]:

  "[Trump] believes...the DOJ was weaponized against him. And so he believes that the only way to correct it is to have somebody in place who's very comfortable having thumbs on a scale."

2. The Role of the Attorney General: Then and Now

• Pre-Trump, AGs were considered intellectual equals to the president and expected to run DOJ with independence.

• Blanche faces skepticism; judges and courts are now openly critical of DOJ decisions, eroding traditional trust.

  Laura Coates [09:20]:

  "Their role is to oversee a huge department...to ensure that the pursuit of justice matches our moral compass."

  Laura Coates [17:08]:

  "Before Trump, I think, Attorney General, they felt powerful, or at least...an intellectual equal who could be at the table...They knew that they were serving at the pleasure of the president, but they did not believe that if the president was displeased, that...they would no longer have a job."

3. Senate Hearings & Concerns

• Blanche, under heavy questioning, would not confirm independence from Trump nor affirm Biden’s 2020 victory.

• He is critiqued for lackluster grading from courts, reduced benefit of the doubt for DOJ, and politicization of prosecutorial discretion.

  Jane Coaston [00:56]:

  "Isn't it humiliating to be unable to answer this question, to have to indulge the president's delusions?"

  Laura Coates [15:01]:

  "He might not be passing at all in his grades...Judges [are] saying things like this is pretextual...talking about the idea of political weaponization...Those credibility assessments by a judge...are problematic."

4. Weaponization & DOJ Independence

• Trump expects the DOJ and Attorney General to focus resources on his priorities, especially immigration.

• Career prosecutors now fear retaliation or lack of support, which is a stark departure from precedent.

  Laura Coates [17:08]:

  "...the serving at the pleasure of the president means instead, I must serve and be beholden to you...even if it comes at the expense of...the precedent, the Constitution...and what is recommended by line attorneys."

5. Impact on DOJ Caseload & Public Trust

• Redirection of DOJ resources toward immigration leaves important but less publicized cases neglected.

• Undermines DOJ’s ability to represent everyday Americans and address their grievances fairly.

• Loss of trust among both prosecutors and the public, especially as only ‘political’ cases are prioritized.

  Laura Coates [19:42]:

  “If you don’t even have resources to do that and you’re only prioritizing the things that might make it in the political group chat, you’re going to see a lot of people feeling victimized, unable to address that victimization and not having much faith in the Department of Justice to address it.”

6. Confirmation Outcome Hypotheticals

• If Blanche is not confirmed, Trump may keep a rotating cast of “acting” AGs, undermining DOJ’s stability.

• Some senators threaten to withhold support based on Blanche’s actions, such as meeting with Epstein victims—but Laura Coates notes these can be performative.

  Laura Coates [21:52]:

  “You have to have a permanently held position...I put some, but not all weight in these threats of contingencies...if that is enough to meet the criteria, you haven’t moved the needle.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jane Coaston [00:32]: "Props to Jay Clayton for not simply dying of embarrassment on the spot."
• Laura Coates [15:01]: “School's out for the summer, but he might not be passing at all in his grades, I'll tell you that.”
• Jane Coaston [07:22]: "What a day, what a week, what a month, what a year," reflecting an exhausted and darkly humorous tone.
• Laura Coates [17:08]: "Now I think the serving at the pleasure of the president means instead, I must serve and be beholden to you…"
• Laura Coates [19:42]: “If the focus is solely on the sexiest cases according to the Truth Social posts, a lot of people will be left by the wayside…”

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Important Timestamps

• 00:52: Jane presses for a simple answer from Trump’s DNI nominee about the 2020 election.
• 03:32: Discussion of White House teleprompter operator scandal (betting on Trump’s speeches).
• 06:26: Transcript of Blanche responding to questions about his relationship with Trump.
• 07:18: Laura Coates joins to provide historical and legal context.
• 09:20: Explanation of the ideal role of an Attorney General.
• 15:01: Laura critiques Blanche’s impact on DOJ credibility and court skepticism.
• 17:08: Comparison of pre- and post-Trump dynamics of Attorney General independence.
• 19:42: Consequences of shifting DOJ resources to political priorities.

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Tone and Style

• The tone is sharp, skeptical, and conversational—with plenty of ironic asides, dry humor, and clear concern for the erosion of norms.
• Both host and guest aim for clarity and depth, making the arguments accessible for listeners concerned with the rule of law and democratic stability.

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Conclusion

This episode unpacks the real dangers of a politicized Justice Department and the potential long-term damage when a president’s personal attorney runs the DOJ. With historical context, legal expertise, and a healthy amount of skepticism, Jane Coaston and Laura Coates illuminate why this turning point matters for all Americans—not just the powerful or politically connected.

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Transcript

[Laura Coates]

Before Trump, I think, Attorney General, they felt powerful, or at least an intellectual equal who could be at the table, have a seat and be responded to. It wasn't as if they were a true subordinate. They knew that they were serving at the pleasure of the president, but they did not believe that if the president was displeased, that that meant that they would no longer have a.

[Senator Jon Ossoff]

Foreign

[Jane Costen]

I'm Jane Coston and this is what a day. The show offering you pure, unadulterated enjoyment. In this case, it's from Georgia Democratic Senator Jon Ossoff, who asked President Donald Trump's nominee to serve as Director of National Intelligence, Jay Clayton, an incredibly easy question on Wednesday. Is that right?

[Laura Coates]

No, that's not right.

[Jane Costen]

Then answer the question. Who won the 2020 election?

[Laura Coates]

I have answered the question.

[Jane Costen]

Answer it. What is your answer? I've given you my answer. What is your answer? You refuse to answer a basic question about who won a presidential election, but you asked to lead America's intelligence community. Isn't it humiliating to be unable to answer this question, to have to indulge the president's delusions? Props to Jay Clayton for not simply dying of embarrassment on the spot. On today's show, we talk with CNN's Laura Coats about Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche's confirmation hearing and whether his support for President Trump's bogus ideas. Remember that anti weaponization slush fund make him fit to lead the Department of Justice. Before we get into all that, here's what we're following today. Thursday, July 16 the reason for the

[Caroline Levitt]

recent strikes over the course of the last several days is because Iran violated the Memorandum of Understanding that we struck with them. Specifically, in the Memorandum of Understanding that they signed, they were not to fire on commercial vessels moving through the Strait of Hormuz. And unfortunately, they have made the tragic decision for them to do that.

[Jane Costen]

Press Secretary Caroline Levitt has returned to her podium at the White House. I knew the day would come, and yet somehow I still wasn't ready for it. Levitt held her first briefing since she went on maternity leave earlier this year. During the briefing, Levitt talked about the latest with the war, saying Iran still wants to make a deal with the US because it's suffering devastating blows. The US has intensified its strikes on Iran, hitting targets farther north and firing into a ship that the US Accused of trying to break its naval blockade on the Islamic Republic. Iran then retaliated by launching missiles and drones at US Allies in the region, warning its attacks may escalate. So much for that Memorandum of Understanding.

[Senator Jon Ossoff]

This individual has been accused of making trades around the president's speeches for months. I mean, this has been going on since at least earlier this year, maybe even before that. Did the White House, White House counsel have any awareness that this was going on with this individual? And if not, no, then why not? Is there any sort of plan in place to try to figure this out, to see if anyone else is doing this, sort of track future people from see if they're making these types of bets in the White House? Any discussions around that?

[Caroline Levitt]

Ms. Look, there are very strict ethical guidelines here at the White House that explicitly state not to do this, and the White House counsel's office makes that clear to all of us who sign up to work in government on behalf of the president.

[Jane Costen]

Yes, Caroline Lovett, we all know about the strict ethical guidelines governing the Trump White House. The question was spurred by news that federal investigators are probing a White House teleprompter operator, Gabriel Perez. According to reporting from ABC News and statements from the prediction market Calshi Perez had been making bets on whether or not Trump would use specific phrases or reference specific topics during at least a dozen speeches, like February's State of the Union address and Trump's remarks at a Medal of Honor ceremony in March, which since Perez was operating the teleprompter for their speeches were would be insider trading. According to ABC News, it was Kalshee that flagged the suspicious trading to regulators. Perez has been operating Trump's teleprompter since 2016, but he has now been put on unpaid leave. He's believed to have won more than $100,000 betting on Trump's speeches. Heavy, pungent smoke from wildfires in Canada and Minnesota darkened skies in the US Today from the Great Lakes to parts of the East Coast. The smoke reduced visibility and prompted warnings that breathing the air outside could be dangerous, According to data from IQ Air. Detroit, Toronto, Minneapolis, and Chicago had some of the worst air quality of all major cities across the globe. And in the New York City area, a thick haze tinged the morning sky in orange and yellow, reducing visibility so dramatically that it partly obscured Manhattan's prominent skyline. One National Weather Service meteorologist said. Even if winds from the northwest clear skies is expected later this week, the smoky air could keep returning until the fires are out. A Meta Oversight Board study released today shows that major AI systems, including those built in the US Are more likely to refuse to criticize restrictive leaders or governments. For example, ask Claude to make a pamphlet critical of President Trump or Britain's King Charles iii. An anthropic's chatbot would oblige. But when prompted to do the same for Thailand's king, Saudi Arabia's crown prince, or China's leader, the artificial intelligence model declined. And that's not even the scariest part. Get this the findings indicate that AI models are reflecting speech restrictions beyond the countries where they apply. For example, the report said that AI models could be less likely to help a potential demonstrator in Brisbane create protest materials to speak out against events in China or Saudi Arabia, even if that kind of expression is legal in the user's jurisdiction. And that's the news. Let's talk about the Department of Justice and Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche. Blanche has been under the microscope this week as he undergoes questioning from the Senate Judiciary Committee as part of his confirmation hearing. A major line item for senators the concern that Blanch, who previously served as President Trump's personal criminal attorney, might still be operating as Trump's personal attorney in spirit, if not in name. We played part of this exchange Wednesday, but it's worth playing it again in full because I don't think this response to Louisiana Republican Senator John Kennedy helped Blanche's case.

[Laura Coates]

Are you and President Trump friends? I'm his lawyer. Was his lawyer, and now I'm the deputy attorney general. So I met him as his criminal defense attorney. I'm not sure there's very many people who have ever had a criminal defense

[Jane Costen]

attorney who calls that person their friend.

[Laura Coates]

I now have a. Well, let me put it this way. Are you enemies? No, we're not enemies at all.

[Jane Costen]

Blanche is in a tough spot because history has shown that his future job security is dependent on doing exactly what Trump says. Blanche would be Trump's fourth confirmed US Attorney general. The previous three, during both of Trump's terms in the White House, lost their jobs for displeasing the president. So to talk more about what having an attorney general subject to the whims of Trump does to the justice system, I spoke to Laura Coats. She's chief legal analyst for CNN and host of Laura Coats Live. Laura, welcome to what a Day.

[Laura Coates]

Thank you. What a day, what a week, what a month, what a year.

[Jane Costen]

I say that to myself every single day. So Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch just spent two days getting grilled in a Senate confirmation hearing, and the obvious giant concern from senators is that as Attorney General, Blanche will just do whatever President Trump wants because he was Trump's personal lawyer before joining the Department of Justice. Now, is there any precedent for a president making his personal attorney the head of doj? What is this typ look like?

[Laura Coates]

Well, we've seen some nepotism in the past, right? We've seen something like that. So your brother can be parson. But we've also seen people, usually it's your person that you trust to make the decisions when you're not in the room, who can independently oversee a very important Department of Justice. I mean, the org chart is insane. And so normally you would have a political appointee who's gonna serve it, the pleasure of the President that is set in stone, so to speak. But you normally have somebody that's trust based on advisors who have said, listen, here is someone on a short list I want you to consider because of their objectivity, because of their expertise, because you don't want to have to be the person controlling things because they're totally competent. Trump has a very different take on this. He believes, as you well know, that the DOJ was weaponized against him. And so he believes that the only way to correct it is to have somebody in place who's very comfortable having thumbs on a scale. He believes to reverse weaponization, but many believe is, in fact, engaging in it.

[Jane Costen]

So let's zoom out a little, because I'm glad you made the point about Kennedy having rfk. Then there's also Nixon with John Mitchell, who's the Attorney General who went to prison for doing crimes on Nixon's behalf. But I think you got at something important, which is looking at past administrations. What role is the US Attorney General supposed to play in the DOJ and the government as a whole?

[Laura Coates]

You know, they are supposed to be the ones to set the tone in terms of the priorities of prosecution, knowing that prosecutors have discretion about the kind of cases they bring. They will prioritize the types of crimes. They will ensure that the morale and the efficiency of the department is at its peak. To be able to effectively represent people of the United States, they have to ensure professional responsibility and ethics. And knowing full well that the decisions that their line attorneys make not only will inert the benefit of other line attorneys, but also can take their cases if their credibility falls. But ultimately, their role is to oversee a huge department with a number of different divisions to ensure that the pursuit of justice matches our moral compass. And if you don't have somebody who is invested in every single division and singularly focused on trying to ensure the prosecutions of some at the pleasure of the President, you don't have a comprehensive department. And believe you me, the United States of America requires a full Justice Department who is geared towards making sure that all different cases have the same level of objectivity and credibility.

[Jane Costen]

If you object to the appointment of Trump's personal attorney as America's Next Top Lawyer, stick around. We'll get back to my conversation with Laura Coates in a moment. But if you like the show, make sure to subscribe. Leave a five star review on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, watch us on YouTube and share with your friends. More to come after some ads what a day is brought to you by Deleteme. Have you ever thought I really should be doing something to protect myself from stalkers, scammers and hackers, but you're not sure what? Here's what you go to www.joindeleteme.com wad and enter code wade. You'll get 20% off DeleteMe. In the age of AI, we're all especially vulnerable to scammers using your personal data that's floating around on the Internet against you. Have you ever googled yourself and found your home address, phone number, or the name of a family member? It's unsettling, but the good news is Deleteme can help. Deleteme was named the top pick for data removal services by Wirecutter. As someone with an active online presence, privacy is really important to me. I want to protect myself and my family. That's why Deleteme works. Take control of your data and keep your private life private by signing up for Deleteme now at a special discount for our listeners. Get 20% off your delete me plan when you go to JoinDeleteMe.com wad and use promo code wad at checkout. The only way to get 20% off is to go to www.joindeleteme.com wad and enter code wad at checkout. That's www.joindeleteme dot com wad code wad wad a day is brought to you by Zebiotics. I have to tell you about this game changing product I use before a night out with drinks. It's called Pre Alcohol Zebiotics. Pre Alcohol Probiotic Drink is the world's first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking. Here's how it when you drink, alcohol gets converted into a toxic byproduct in the gut. It's a buildup of this byproduct, not dehydration. That's to blame for rough days after drinking. Pre alcohol produces an enzyme to break this byproduct down. Just remember to make Pre Alcohol your first drink of the night. Drink Responsibly and you'll feel your best tomorrow. Every time I have pre alcohol before drinks, I notice a difference the next day. Even after a night out, I can confidently plan on working out without worry. July is packed with barbecues, fireworks, lake weekends and late nights with friends. Keep the good times rolling into the next day. Drink pre alcohol before you go out and wake up ready for whatever Sunday brings. Remember to head to zebiotics.com wad and use the code WAD at checkout for

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[Laura Coates]

Well, school's out for the summer, but he might not be passing at all in his grades, I'll tell you that. And here's why. Normally you used to have that phrase it wasn't even that long ago. A year, two, three, maybe five years ago, you could say that prosecutors could indict a ham sandwich, right? That phrase was there because there was such a benefit of the doubt that was extended to prosecutors and the choices they made. The presumption of innocence, whether you like it or not, oftentimes was secondary in the minds of the court of public opinion. If the prosecutors or the DOJ brought a case against you, your inclination was that they wouldn't have done it if they had nothing. Now, that has been chipped away in a way that I think people are concerned might not be reversible for quite a long time because the words like pretext are coming out from judges or saying things like this a pretextual effect for you. They're talking about the idea of political weaponization. They're talking about audiences of one. Those credibility assessments by a judge where they're used to be the extension of grace is extremely problematic. Now, I believe that you have to hold prosecutors to account. I've been a federal prosecutor. I know full well the power that they have. And I think it's important that people do question and have a healthy level of skepticism about who brings cases and why. But that should be based on the conduct and the. And the actual facts of the case, not the general impression that the DOJ does not have your back, is only pursuing cases because they're the private attorney of one person.

[Jane Costen]

So you mentioned this a little bit earlier, that Trump views the Department of Justice as operating on his behalf. And Blanche was asked yesterday if he's running the DOJ independent of Trump, and he basically said no because DOJ is part of the executive branch. But Trump fired Jeff Sessions for not doing his bidding on the Russia investigation. Barr resigned after he made Trump mad about 2020 denialism. Before Trump, how did past AGs understand their relationship with the president?

[Laura Coates]

Before Trump, I think Attorney General, they felt powerful, or at least an intellectual equal who could be at the table, have a seat and be responded to. It wasn't as if they were a true subordinate. They knew that they were serving at the pleasure of the president, but they did not believe that if the president was displeased, that that meant that they would no longer have a job. It meant that there'd be a discussion about how they would explain their choices or otherwise. I think now the serving at the pleasure of the president means instead, I must serve and be beholden to you. Your moods, mercurial or charismatic. I have to do what I need to do. To make sure you're happy, even if it comes at the expense of what I know to be the precedent in the Constitution, in my own Department of Justice, and what is recommended by line attorneys. And I want to just make a quick distinction when I talk about career prosecutors. Those are prosecutors who serve not because they're political appointees. They oftentimes will serve through successive administrations. I myself was hired under Bush, served through Obama. I mean, this idea of being a career prosecutor, you did not previously feel as though the president's directives would directly impact the ability to bring your everyday case. Now, I think with the mass exodus, mass firings, and also the fact that the current acting attorney general has been so supportive, supportive of the pardons that essentially tried to erase the valid convictions of line attorneys for proud boys, oath keepers and January 6th defendants, they don't feel that he has their back. And that is more than just a friendship faux pas. That is a professional indictment for prosecutors and also for the attorney general. And so pre Trump, it meant, I think, a seat at the table among equals. Now with Trump, I think it means, tell me what you'd like me to

[Jane Costen]

do to that point. What Trump cares about most with regard to federal law enforcement is immigration. And the Department of Justice has followed suit and shifted resources away from other crimes like sexual abuse and any number of especially white collar crimes to help ice. So what does that mean for other types of prosecutions if DOJ under Blanch or under any Trump appointee is focusing so much on immigration? What's not happening on a good day?

[Laura Coates]

The weight of the federal government is a bit of a misnomer. It's not essentially an elephant against a feather. The resources have always been strapped. The resources have always been stretched. It's just the institutional knowledge, the benefit of the doubt, and, of course, the power of subpoenas and beyond that really can elevate the ability of prosecutors to bring cases even distinctly from a private litigant. So knowing that resources were always scarce, the fact that you are now taking resources away from any number of cases to prioritize what is in the political zeitgeist more than what is in the pressing till, it means that justice can't be pursued in the way that the American public needs it to be. All the different cases that are worked on, some of them are the very salacious, very sexy cases that everyone wants to talk about on the group chat, but the overwhelming number of them are your everyday person who was wronged, who needs the power of the government to support them. And those Cases are not always the most exciting cases, my friend. Sometimes they are the most mundane but necessary. But if you don't even have resources to do that and you're only prioritizing the things that might make it in the political group chat, you're going to see a lot of people feeling victimized, unable to address that victimization and not having much faith in the Department of Justice to address it. And I fear that if the focus is solely on the sexiest cases, according to the Truth social posts, a lot of people will be left by the wayside and that has dire consequences.

[Jane Costen]

So Blanche is not in the clear yet. Texas Republican Senator John Cornyn said he still has some concerns after questioning Blanche in yesterday's hearing. Republican Senator Thom Tillis said today that he won't vote for Blanche if he doesn't meet with Epstein victims. And assuming every Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee votes know those votes are non negotiable. So let's say theoretically, what happens if Blanche is not confirmed by the Senate?

[Laura Coates]

Oh, I love a theoretical because you know a lot of things are going to be triggered in terms of Trump questioning the entire system, the confirmation process. He will have the political heads rolling, so to speak. He could allow him to be in the position for there's a finite amount of time you can be a non confirmed person when you have the advice and consent of Senate and beyond. So conceivably he could try to get somebody else in that position and have a series of acting people in that role. But there is necessary cutoff because at some point you, you have to have a permanently held position. But I think one important thing you mentioned, the idea of the contingencies of these votes. Call me a skeptic, but I put some, but not all weight in these threats of contingencies that many senators have. Because the point was not just to meet with, as you might have a corporate meeting with somebody, right? Oh yeah. Oh, I met you. Hi. You doing good? Nice to see you. Okay, I'm going to pass you off to the next person now. It really was contingent, I think, for many of the survivors to feel as though the Attorney General was meeting with them with an eye towards trying to progress criminal investigations against those who've wronged them or at least being able to offer some insight into what is lacking in the investigations. So I think a performative attendance of a meeting, if that is enough to meet the criteria, you haven't moved the needle and I think that'll be very telling as to how the President, if he's not confirmed or if he is confirmed, will move from there.

[Jane Costen]

Laura, thank you so much for joining me.

[Laura Coates]

Thank you.

[Jane Costen]

That was my conversation with Laura Coates, chief legal analyst and anchor of Laura Coates Live on cnn. Before we go, last week a Texas father and construction worker was on his way to work when he was shot and killed by an ICE officer. Days later in Maine, ICE agents fired on another vehicle killing a 26 year old man from Colombia. This week on Runaway country, journalist Alex Wagner examines these two fatal incidents on opposite sides of the country and the broader ICE crackdown that has left countless families grieving and scared. Then Alex sits down with the bulwarks Sarah Longwell to discuss whether it's possible to change everyday Americans opinions on immigration and get the ICE reforms we need to stop the senseless violence. Watch Runaway country now on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts. That's all for today. If you like the show, make sure you subscribe, leave a review, Enjoy Trump discussing a quote Poe Pourri of whatever weird shit he wants to talk about tonight. And tell your friends to listen. And if you're into reading, I'm not just about how Trump is giving a speech tonight at 9:00pm Eastern that will likely touch on, quote, free and fair elections, that is his misbegotten belief that he won the 2020 election. But she didn't like me Where Today is also a nightly newsletter. Check it out and [e-mail] subscribe I'm Jane Costen and you could watch Trump's speech tonight or you could watch almost any Trump speech from the last five years which somehow always ends up discussing the same thing. What a Day is a production of Crooked Media. Our show is produced by Caitlin Plummer, Emily Foer, Erica Morrison and Adrienne Hill. Our team includes Haley Jones, Greg Walter as Matt Berg, Joseph Dutra, Johanna Case and Desmond Taylor. Our music is by Kyle Murdoch and Jordan Kanter. Great help today from the Associated Press. Our production staff is proudly unionized with the Writers Guild of America East.

[Laura Coates]

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[Jane Costen]

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[Jane Costen]

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