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What Are You Made Of?
Biohacking the Soul: Sean McCormick on Consciousness, Healing and Personal Evolution
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Welcome back to the what do youo Made Up Show. It's your boy, C. Rock. I'm back in the chair. Hot off our Las Vegas Quantum expansion event. Phenomenal event, man. And I'm not saying that because maybe it was the people that were there that made it. We just had a great time expanding with each other and just seeing the reaction of the people that experienced it for the first time, it's really fulfilling to me, you know, and I've said this all the time. I make a lot. Made a lot of money in my life and never fulfilled me. It was nice, but it just never filled me seeing these things happen. Truly fulfilling. And so welcome back. I got a great guest today for you. Sean McCormick's here. What's up, Sean?
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Hey, what's going on?
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Hey, man, I'm glad we found you because you have a podcast. You, you're doing great work impacting the world, and I wanted to share the, you know, share with you, with the audience. So we always start the show the same way every time. And that's with the question, what are you made of?
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Yeah, dude, I am made of light and love and piss and vinegar. That is me. Yeah, I, you know, I had the fortunate circumstance to have my sort of, aha, light bulb moment right as I was turning 30. Decided to get out of the corporate world and get into things that were passionate, that I was passionate about. Started businesses, started a chain of wellness centers, started a podcast.
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Wait a minute, you weren't, you weren't excited and fulfilled and passionate about the corporate world?
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I mean, cubicles and, you know, a water cooler banter is nice. You know, required happy hours when you're selling advertising is fun. Going working at a rock radio station is pretty cool. But it didn't, it didn't nourish my soul. It didn't, it didn't. I was, I was lining the pockets of, of, of the corporate elite and it was just out of alignment for me. And, and so I'm, you know, I, I'm. I'm that weird guy. I'm that weird friend that you have that's always doing something crazy. And the reason that I do that, something crazy. And I'm talking crazy five days going without food and water to see what it does to my body to get stem cel, a. A transformation. I just did a 24 hour ibogaine psychedelic experience on Friday that blew my absolute mind.
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Stop you there. Okay, so I want some cognitions that you got from that. Like what? Some, some, you know, I say cognitions for A lot of people, they don't understand what that means. And I'll just clarify. I've done a lot of work on myself and when I, as I'm going through these things and the energy starts to break up, you get this euphoric feeling and you'll get a cognition, like an idea, like an aha. Like, oh, wait a minute. And look, a different perspective, right? Yeah. Yeah. Come on, man, let's go.
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If you're willing to share. Always. Yeah. People and relationships are the only thing that matters. I know that you believe that. I know that you know that. I know that you're mobilizing your people and that, that's, that's why I'm here today, is to connect with interesting people. Literally 24 hours tripping hardcore. For a long time, oscillating in my consciousness and going through my life and going through my relationships and confronting some of the decisions that I've made. Good, bad, indifferent and, and ultimately the punchline was always the same, is that it's about people. This is about your mother, your father, your best friend that passed away when you were a kid, your wife, your kids. This is about your professional network. It is about relationships, stuff, you know, material. It's, it's, it's a fallacy, it's a myth. The stuff that we think matters isn't matter. It is relationships, it's energy and it is people. And I was reminded of that probably 7,000 times in that 24 hour period.
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That's amazing. And you mentioned the word confront. And so I had one of my experiences was like this word confront came up. And what people don't realize is I came up with this thing and probably it's in books somewhere too, but I didn't read it. I just came up with it in my head was that the longer you wait to confront something that you need to confront the digger, the bigger the hole you're digging. So eventually we're all forced to confront something because the pressure builds up eventually so big that it takes longer to get out of that hole. So the quicker you are to confront things, the smaller the hole is that you get to get out of.
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Yes.
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And so these little things come up like this and. Yes, yeah, but, but the people thing for sure. I mean, at the end of the day, and then you got to be conscious of who you're hanging around, your environment. Right. Like, and the relationships you have, because it could be very suppressive and hold you back too.
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That confrontation thing is really critical. And the work that I do with coaching Clients all over the world, high level guys, really, really high level people who have been crushing it in their business that they've started for decades. Oftentimes they get so myopic. They get blinders on about what they think is important. They tell themselves their family is important, but they don't ever see them. They tell themselves that their health is important, but they're not eating right, they're not sleeping, they're not meditating, they're not taking care of, of their health in any way. And psychedelics are one way to confront that. Coaching, working with someone one on one, that's going to tell you you've got spinach in your teeth and say, hey, you say that your family is the most important thing, but you haven't talked to your mother in like three weeks, dude, like, like, come on. Confronting that stuff, you want to do that as early as possible. Because if you wake up at 60 and you haven't confronted anything in your life that you, that you're out of alignment with, if you haven't clean your house a little bit and organize yourself and your priorities and your values, if you haven't ever done that, then you're gonna be pretty unhappy as you age. And so when you can do that earlier, guess what? You can confront the stuff that you're in now. But as we age and as we grow, as the new seasons of our life emerge, you know, big life events, guess what? There's more things to confront. There's always more curriculum. So if you started the work when you're 30, great. Good on you, good for you. Guess what? By the time you're 40, there's gonna be a new set of lessons to learn and things to confront. And so it's this. Personal development is just a critical part of how you show up in the world. You know, there's this Ram Dass quote that, that is something to the effect of the greatest gift that I can give you is to work on myself. And the greatest gift that you can give me is to work on yourself. If everybody did that, if everybody worked on themselves, the world would be a. And it seems selfish. You know, you're a father, you're an entrepreneur, you're a leader, and it's like, I'm here for everyone else. Well, that's true. But if you are out of whack, out of alignment, overtired, distracted, you're not any help to anybody. You have to fill your cup first. You have to put your mask on before you put the mask on and the kid in the Airplane. If there's an emergency. It's just, it's fundamental.
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Well, look, look, the opposite of that is what's going on in the world right now where people are complaining all the time about the politicians, the world, the, the other countries, the other people. And that, that is obviously causing chaos and confusion. And you know, you cannot, you know, you far further and further from utopia the more you have chaos and confusion. Right. So, Yeah, I agree 100%. It's, it's a level of responsibility that you have to take. And I talk a lot about Sean being a living demonstration.
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Exactly.
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And in our community, I said this, this weekend, you know, it's unacceptable for people in our community not to be optimizing their health. And I said that because. And that doesn't mean that you have to be in the greatest shape of your life right now. It just means that you have to be moving in the direction of optimization because there's no excuse to be around the people that we're around. And you know, I have some of the top biohacking longevity doctors and experts and founders of products and supplements in our community, and there's no excuse. Right. It's just a decision. And I can't be around people that are not moving in direction of optimization in areas of their life. It's just not, it's not acceptable to me.
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Yeah, you're gonna backslide. You know, you're gonna backslide. And the thing is, and so I've been in the optimization space, you know, that's my, the, the, the, the title of my podcast is Optimal Performance. And it looks different from everybody. And that's, that's the one thing that, that continues to ring true is maybe Carnivore is a good idea for you, maybe it's not. Maybe again, three days, five days, no food or water is a good idea for you. Maybe it's not. Maybe Peptides, who knows? But you have to experiment. You have to have optimism and enthusiasm and curiosity about what's going to work for you because everybody's body, mind, environment are all different. So you've got to be at least willing to experiment with some new things to see what works.
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Yeah, and like you said, it's different for everyone, but you have to have a direction that you're going in. Right, Whatever that may be. So, yeah, I'm with you on that. So, so let's get into your story. What, you know, why did you have to do this, this trip, this weekend? Like, what is, what is, what did you find as some of the things that you experienced as a youngster that you felt like you had to work on. Well, it's interesting.
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I've lived a pretty charmed life, to be honest with you. You know, I. I married my high school sweetheart. I don't have big T trauma, little T trauma, abuse from my childhood. I don't have opioid addiction or OCD that really, specifically this plant medicine, this psychedelic is really targeted at. You know, Trump was talking, mentioned ibogaine in the Oval Office with Rogan in the in the background saying, oh, maybe I should try that. Which is funny because he's a teetotaler, doesn't drink or smoke, let alone do psychedelics. Ibogaine is specifically clinically proven to help all of those ailments that I just laid out. I just want to know. I just want to know the secrets of the universe. I want to experience all the things. I want all the smoke, give it to me. I want to have that experience of psychospiritual development. I just want to understand these things. I want to know the secrets of the universe in any which way that I can. Through meditation, through float tanks, through connection with my spirit guides to connection with God. And specifically this plant medicine, this psychedelic, which is new but gaining in popularity, is an opportunity for me to just take some time to go into my inner space and to have that experience of, why am I like this way? Why are my relationships like this? What do I have to learn? And here's the key question. What do I need to know that I don't already know, and how is it useful to me? You can learn that in meditation, in prayer, in float tanks. You can learn that. That's the key question. What do I need to know that I don't already know, and how is it useful to me? And if you ask yourself that question for 24 hours straight, deep, deep in a psychedelic state like I was Friday into Saturday morning, you're gonna learn a lot. You're gonna learn a lot about yourself, and you're gonna get some downloads. You're gonna get some of those moments where you'. Okay, I know that I need to make some adjustments with this or that. For me, specifically to my experience on Friday, you know, because I don't have the opioid addiction or trauma and stuff like that. It was just a very deep conversation with myself for 24 hours straight, nine miles deep in this plant medicine. And I'm still. Honestly, I mean, we're just a couple of days off. I'm still kind of processing that. What. What were Those key moments, those key takeaways, and, and that's part of important integration that anybody should do after a psychedelic experience. But for me, I just, I, I want to know, I want to have that, I want to have that gnosis, that experience that, that you get when you do wacky like that.
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Well, paint the picture for us first. Like, where was it? What, what was the environment like and what did the process look like?
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So it's this, this one specifically. So ibogaine. You know, it's, it's an African plant medicine. So they'll do it like in the wood or, you know, in the bush with the tribal. In a tribal setting for, you know, for the West. The, the place that I did it is a clinic here in Seattle where you, you're hooked up to EEGs. You have an intravenous drip that you can, that you onboard. So they do push like magnesium and supplements to kind of keep your electrolytes balanced. And then you do a, basically like a micro dose of it to see
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did you have the fast going into it?
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I, I didn't dry fast, but I did water fast. Yeah, for 24 hours ahead of time to clear the pipes.
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Okay.
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And so you take a little microdose. You go through these tests. They set some heart rate baselines on the eeg. You know, you do some like, coordination tests to kind of see what your baselines are. You take a microdose. An hour later, you know, assuming that everything's all good, then you take the first dose. So I took that at 10am on Friday morning, laid back in a clinic. There's doctors and there's nurses in the hallway on standby to help if need be. And you're in basically on a bed, blindfold on, with headphones on for music to kind of keep you through, keep you, guide you during that journey. The doctors will come in and kind of check on you occasionally. So that was the first, like four hours. Was like, okay, I was in it, but I wasn't like, in it. And they said, okay, you know, you seem to be tolerating this really well. Would you like to go a little bit deeper? And I said, let's go way deeper. That's just my style. And they said, okay, we're going to double the dose. So they gave me another same dose, four hours in. That sent me way deep. And what happens occasionally, frequently in these psychedelic experiences, whether it's ayahuasca or mushrooms or whatever, oftentimes it comes with some sort of purge. Right. Purge can be a yawn. It can be a cry. It can be going. Heading down the hall and heading to the bathroom. So I had a number of purges down the hall in the bathroom, and I would come back, wipe the sweat off my face. And I posted all this on Instagram and laid back, put the headphones back on, put the eye mask on, and went just back into my inner space for. For 24 hours. You lose all track of time on that point.
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So did you have, like, a nauseous feeling? You just had to get up and go because you're like.
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It was. It wasn't really. It wasn't nausea? No, not for me. No. I mean, I was vibrating. And they have this. What happens is ataxia. So you kind of lose motor control to a certain extent, which for people can be a little alarming. But, like, walking is a little tricky. I. I had to go number two probably four or five times, and I didn't have anything in my stomach. But that. That was me. That was my body. If you ask the shaman, if you ask the ibogay, the iboga shaman in Africa, what that is, that is a concentration of some sort of psychic energy inside your body that you. That it gathers itself, it coagulates, and then you release it. So for some people that.
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Did it come with pain?
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No pain.
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Okay.
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No.
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Sometimes you have to go to the bathroom. It's, like, painful.
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Yeah. No, it wasn't painful. It was just like, okay, now's the time.
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You better get up out of this
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bed or you're going to have an accident here. So I was like, you know, I rang the bell and I said, they're like, hey, what's going on? I said, I need to go to the bathroom. So they helped me up, you know, unhooked me from the eeg, walked down the hallway, sat down carefully, let it go back to the bed, back to the inner space. You know, in ayahuasca, that can be vomiting, that can be yawning, can be weeping, but it's getting stuff out. It's moving energy through your body and letting it go. So whatever that was, those times where I had to go, it was a consolidation of some sort of psychic energy that's manifested physically that you just let go. And when you let it go, it is like, oh, God, I. Thank goodness I did not. I didn't need to hang on to that anymore.
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Right, Right. Yeah. No, I can imagine. And then. So then as you're going in that deeper and deeper, how long does it last?
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It's 24 hours. Like, full on, 24 hours.
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Okay. And then as you're coming out of it, is it. Is it. Is there like a hangover?
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No, not. Not really a hangover. No. You know, my wife came and picked me up. You know, I came out, came outside, and my daughter's in the back seat of the car. And, you know, they're used to me doing wacky stuff. You know, they're looking like, kind of waiting, like, how's dad gonna be? You know?
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Yeah, of course.
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Dr. Walks out with me and he's like, you know, hi. You know, here's your husband. He's. He did really well. You know, I have a big smile on my face. I'm, like, kind of sweaty still. I get in the car and they're like, how are you? You know, my daughter's 10. She's like, how is that? You know, she. The way that I sort of framed it for her was, you know, I was doing basically a spiritual experience, a spiritual experiment, because they're tracking all of these cases for people that. What. That. What effect it has on them. So for the rest of the day, I kind of hung around, laid around, cuddled, chit chatted with my wife and my. My daughter, and relaxed. And by the next day, I was all good. I was. I didn't. I didn't have any additional ataxia. I didn't have any nausea. I didn't have any, like, flashbacks or. Or weird disorientation. I just sort of integrated nice and smoothly and went for a hike the next day. And so that. That's. That's just my experience. Not everybody's like that. Some people are kind of turned inside out for a couple of days, for sure, But. But that wasn't my experience.
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Yeah. And did you have it. When you were coming into the car? Did you have, like, a euphoric feeling, like you were ecstatic? Like, how did you feel? You had a smile on your face, but, like, did you have that euphoric feeling?
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Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. You know, that. That euphoric feeling, what is akin to, you know, right after a really good yoga session, you know, that. That Shavasana, when you're like, I went through something. I pushed myself past my boundaries, and I feel calm and peaceful. I feel connected. I feel like I've been like, I've done good work just now. And so when I got into the car, it was bright, sunny day in Seattle, and, you know, the light was a little bright, so I put my sunglasses on and I just focused on my breathing as I chit chatted with my Kids. But the feeling was, was, yeah, it's like after a great meditation or a great workout, after you have achieved something, if you've gone through this process, it's like, okay, I'm doing the work. I'm bettering myself. And that's. That's my whole calling card, man.
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Yeah, we did a. We did a workout, a group workout at our event this weekend. And we started the event. Like, I knew I was going to have to experience this because the guy I asked to lead it does this plank challenge, and it's like a five minute on your, you know, the elbows plank challenge or whatever. And he said something about five minutes. I don't know if he. If that was the goal or if he just mentioned that, whatever it was. And I was like, five minutes when he told me a couple weeks ago. And so I'm in the gym and I'll do plank sessions, like in between sets and this and that. And I would usually do a minute, right, And. Cause he'd start shaking, you know, And I'm like, okay, that's good enough. But then I asked this, you know, leading up to this event. I'm like, well, shoot, I gotta try to get to five minutes. Let me. Let me push this a little bit. So I went to two minutes, then I went to two and a half minutes. And then I was like, really shaking. Like, damn, man. This is just five minutes. All right, well, whatever. So I get to the event, and there's something about having a target number one, but also being around other people that are trying to do things. There was, I don't know, 15, 20 of us in this circle, and we were doing it, and we were playing music real loud, breathing. We were talking while we were doing it, taking our focus off the time. And when I got to a certain point where I just had to let down because I feel like I was going to cramp up, I said, don't that. Because we weren't announcing the time. Nobody could see the timer, right? I said, hey, mark that time. Don't. Don't announce it. Just mark that time. And then I got up and went over and I did eight some minutes.
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Yeah, dude.
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And I was like, what the frick? Like, this is crazy.
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Eight minutes.
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Like, I would have never, ever wrapped my head around that prior. Yes, but having that energy around you, everybody's going in a common direction. It's exponential. It's not 15 or 20 people. It's. It's 15 to 20 times, you know, and it was just. It was so. So accomplishment is Is something that adds confidence to you achievements. Just wild, man. So anyway. All right, so then when you were coming out of the corporate world, like, how did you decide to get into this? Like, what drew you to this, what you're doing now?
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Yeah, yeah. Well, I ditched the corporate world to start a flotation therapy center business. Float tanks, isolation tanks. And so this was back in 2012, and it was the perfect combination of the things that I love, right. I'm college athlete, I do Brazilian jiu jitsu. So the physicality of it and being able to relax and recover physically was. Checked the box for me. The meditative aspect of being in a float tank. Check the box for me. It's a natural altered state of consciousness where it's legal and natural. You don't have to take anything in order to go into a deep, deep, deep state of consciousness for an hour or 90 minutes at a time. So it really blended all the things that I really love. It was recovery optimization, meditation, and biohacking. So it was like, this is gonna be the thing and what that did, you know, And I remember I've got fun little stories that can sort of punctuate the point that I'll save for maybe for another day. But that just sent my life in a different direction. You know, just. The float tanks led to the podcast. The podcast led to the coaching certification. The coaching certification led to so many of the opportunities to. To work with people in innovative ways. And I really had no business doing it. I didn't have. I didn't take a single business course in college. Not one. Not marketing, not business. I had no business doing it at all. But I knew that I was going to will it into success. We grew that I exited in 2018, and now it's the leading, you know, float center chain. It's the highest rated float center chain. They made it through Covid. My gm, who bought it for me, he does an awesome job. It's the highest rated float setting float center chain on the west coast. Correct. You know, it's. It's helped hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people over the last, you know, 13 years. And the fact that that was just the launching point for me is just like icing on the cake, because those guys have continued to run that business really well.
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Yeah. That's phenomenal, man. Congratulations. I. You know, when you have that idea, like, there's something about when you get an idea, a thought, you have no idea how you're going to accomplish it. Right? And that's what gets in a lot of people's ways, the how, and they just, well, I don't know how. So they don't even go. They don't even start. And what I found in my life is you just get that thought, that vision, and you start just moving in that direction with your thoughts, words, actions, and the people you keep around you, all going in that direction, the house starts to appear, right? And. And then you look back on it and you're like, I didn't know what the hell I was doing. But, you know, it just proves the point. So, yeah, congratulations, man. And then, so then on, I want to touch on the podcast and building the brand and getting exposure. So you know who Grant Cardone is, right?
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Yeah, of course.
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So Grant told me one time, he said, look, it doesn't matter how, how you, you know, what, you know, your expertise, how good your product is, your service. If nobody knows who you are, it doesn't matter, right? And I said, man, he said, you know, as far as I've gotten, I always wake up every single morning pretending nobody's ever heard of me. And I said, what? Really? He's like, yeah, he's like. And I do it with money, too. I stay broke. No matter how much money I stay broke, I'm always. Because it keeps me on point, you know, on my toes. And when it comes to exposure and being known, that was really powerful to me. So I do it now, like, no matter how big the network it's. No matter how many great people I've had on the show, I always pretend nobody's ever heard of me. And so for you, what was that process like, getting known and building your brand and understanding that.
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Yeah, consistency is, for me, you know, like, I don't have all the answers. I'm not a great marketer, but I will show up and do the work every single day, you know, willing the float center into the status that it is now. You know, the podcast now, with 550 episodes, it's a top 0.5% podcast on the planet. And I've gotten to talk to people that I admire in such a deep way. I just, I continue to follow my gut. I continue to do the things that I love to do. And in the process, I post a lot to Instagram, I post a lot to LinkedIn to continue the story. And what's, what's been. The kind of a hard part for me is I do a lot of different things. Like, there's, There's. I'm sort of a generalist. You know, I work with people on classic personal development, performance optimization, career development, and spiritual development. Like, that's a pretty broad spectrum of things to do and to be known for. So marketing and positioning myself is really tough because I do a lot of things, and some of the things that I do are in a very gray area legally, with the psychedelic work. They're in a gray area from a spiritual perspective. And so what I just continue to do is I show up, I do a really good job, I get results, and people tell their friends. So now the clients that I have, the real estate moguls on the east coast, you know, the banking moguls in the UK that I work with, the politician in India, I don't know how he found me. Well, I do. The politician in India that I've been coaching for a long time, the Nvidia guy in Las Vegas, they just. They tell their friends and they're like, hey, I can't. I can't even really tell you what Sean does or how he does it. I can tell you what my experience is, but the results speak for themselves. So just do a really, really good job and show up with your hard hat on, ready to go to work every single day, and good things happen. And so that's just been the. This has been the process in the coaching and the podcasting and the. In the work that we do with dry fasting. It's all. It's all part of. It's all part of the brand that is. That may change. Tomorrow. I may decide that I'm into flowers, and that's going to be my new thing. And. And. And if it is, I'm going to learn everything there is to know about flowers, and I'm going to work my butt off to make sure that. That people. The people know it. So for me, it's like, how do you encapsulate the work that you do? Just. But whatever it is, do an excellent job and work your butt off.
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Yeah. Yeah. The consistency compounds. Yeah, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. It's just like that one day, and then. And then. How do you get 100 participation from yourself is you do it when it's hard and do it when you don't feel like it, because you know you're going to do it when it's easy and when you feel like it. And there's times, you know, I've done over a thousand episodes of this show, 1800 guest appearances. There's definitely times where I'm like, dude, come on, I don't feel like doing this today, but I do it anyway. Just do it anyway. And then, man, it's just the power that comes from that. It's like compound interest, you know?
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Yeah.
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It's just ridiculous. But the other thing is, there's always, you know, what is the true potential we have. How far can we take this thing? I ask myself all the time, like, how far can you take this thing, dude? Because you don't know. And I tell this story a lot. There's an intelligence officer that said he was speaking to an extraterrestrial. And I always say, I don't know if there's aliens. There probably is, but I don't know. I don't even know if the story's true, except for the fact that he told the story and he said the alien said to him, you human beings have no idea what you're capable of.
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Yeah.
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And when you talk about going on a psychedelic journey to find out what you don't know, and you want to know all the answers that you could possibly can. Like, what does he mean by that? Like, how can we sit back and get in our automaticity and every day just doing the same thing over and over again and being on autopilot when there's possibilities that there's things that will blow our minds, Man, I've seen.
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B
I've seen and experienced things that you would not believe in. And the funny thing is that in order to be in a place to have experiences, like, I've had, you know, I have a Sasquatch story. I've got a UFO story, you know, I've got, you know, an intergalactic dance party story. I've got. Astral projection was a thing. Out of body experiences was. It was a focus of mine for two years. And the thing is, is that if you close yourself off to those things, if you're like, that's too weird, or I don't. I don't know, I'm not into that. If you open up your third eye, you open up to the possibility of. Of that we are. We are infinite beings of love and light and truth. And we are capable of literally traveling out of our body every single night when we sleep to go cruise around the astral plane. And I'm teaching my kids how to do this now. And they're way better at it than I expected them to.
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A
Of course they are. Kids are definitely open.
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B
Incredible. But you risk looking like a kook, which that's okay. And it does take time and attention in order to have an out of body experience. There's work that you have to do during the day to prepare yourself for that experience in the evening. Time, time. And that is, again, like, that's. That's in my DNA to push and explore, no matter what the cost is.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because we are. We are capable of so much. And reality is so much cooler than we think it is.
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A
Yeah, man. Well, Sean, that's the time we have, man. Where can people go deeper with you?
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B
You can go to Sean McCormick dot com. It's my coaching site. You can find my podcast there. That's the easiest place. I'm also really active on Instagram. It's real. Sean McCormick. S E A N. I'm super responsive. And I'm just. To be honest with you, Mike, I'm stoked to be here because this is an indication from the universe for me that I'm on my right path because we connected. And who knows what will come from this conversation? And just like you said before, we turned the mics on. It's about people. It's about network. It's about finding the others. Find the others. Everybody go find the others and. And beautiful things will happen. So if anybody wants to connect, I'm easy to find.
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A
Love it, man. Sean, thank you so much for your time today, man. Appreciate you coming on. I tell you, I'll wrap this up, folks. That's this episode of the what do you made of show Boy C Rock here signing off with Sean McCormick, sharing what he's made of. Make sure you hit the subscribe follow button at the top of your favorite podcast platform and keep coming back. Until next time, be that one.