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What Are You Made Of?
From Digital Nomad to Super-Connector: Chris Reynolds on Building a Global Founder Community
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Welcome back to that one pod. I'm sorry, that one studio on the what do you made of podcast. I do that all the time. I have two shows.
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Chris.
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We have Chris Reynolds here with us. What's up, Chris?
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How you doing, man? I'm doing great, man. Excited to be here and let's make a good podcast, Mike.
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Yeah. So, you know, when I first started, I was like, man, I got to get this brand known globally and podcasting has done it, you know, and you're, you're from the U.S. but you're, you know, joining us on the show here from Spain.
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Yeah.
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And so it's pretty cool that we can do this nowadays. And sometimes I think we take it for granted.
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It is. I mean, I was a digital nomad for nine years and, you know, starting off, building business online now starting. It was 2011 when I left the US and just making a couple thousand dollars a month on my computer and had a backpack and, and it's incredible, you know, just, just thinking, even one generation ago, like, they couldn't even hardly dream of, know, this type of lifestyle, and now people are doing it all over the world. So we're very fortunate, man.
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Yeah, it's. It's pretty amazing. I, I just, I just don't want to lose sight of that, you know, because we're going into a world now filled with AI and, and we're going to be losing connection and, you know, anything. I think it's going to become more scarce and, but, but the connections are going to become more valuable. You know, what you've done here, what you're going to get into is AI proof, you know, and.
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Yes.
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And I love it. So. All right, let me start with this question then. What do. What are you made of?
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I'm made of some good old fashioned Missouri grit and a lot of never give up ness.
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When did that part come to you? Because that doesn't. It's not always ingrained in us.
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Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I just, I always had this ability to endure and I always had this mindset of, well, I can get whatever I want as long as I don't give up, you know, and that came to me naturally as a teenager, and I also had this mindset as a teenager, and I made this up, you know, one day I was just. I did a lot of manual labor. I. My, my family's blue collar worker and farmers, and I just thought like, always constructing, never deconstructing. Always constructing, never deconstructing. And that was my mantra. It still is. And I just. I was fortunate to have that, I think.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I came. I. I did concrete, stucco, masonry work growing up. It was. I'm like, I don't want to do this the rest of my life, you know, but it was hard work, and it put. It put a, you know, work ethic in me for sure. You know, my dad used to say he just. To get through the day, he would just count the dollar. He would, like, assign a dollar amount to each brick. Yeah. Just lay the bricks.
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I did things like that. I did things like that. I did hourly. I was like, oh, okay, here's another, you know, this hour and this hour, one day. Okay. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well.
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And, you know, the hourly thing only goes so far, but if. Well, it does work the same way. You can start leveraging hours, and that's how you scale a company. But my dad was leveraging bricks. Like, if he. If he. If he got $5 a brick, he would get somebody else to lay some bricks, too, and he would take $2 of that brick, pay them 3, and then just, you know, to just scale it out.
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Right. Your dad was much smarter than I was. Me, too.
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Me too.
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At first, not now.
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I think I got him. But anyway, so. All right, so then, you know, you go backpacking around the country. 2011 or around the world.
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Yeah.
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And what were you doing prior to that?
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That's a good question. I worked in the mortgage business, kind of like you did you subprime? 2008, 2007. Right. During that time is my first job out of college, and I got thrown into a mess because, you know, like, what happened? Global recession, 2008. I got thrown into a subprime mortgage company, and it was a really unethical place for anybody to be, and I was just shocked. And I think it kind of forced me out of the traditional business world also, because I didn't like what was what I saw.
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Yeah. I felt like I was starting to get a twitch from the trauma that I had from 20 years in the mortgage real estate business.
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Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
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I got into 2005, into real estate as an agent, and then mortgages in 2006. So the timing couldn't have been worse.
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Similar to me. Similar to me. Yeah.
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Yeah. But I just got out a couple years ago. We actually did pretty well.
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Good.
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As we went forward. So. Okay, so you were in that. And you're like, you know, screw this. I got to figure something else out.
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Yeah.
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And how old were you when you decided to go Nomad?
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I was in my late twenties. So I read the book the four hour Work Week and you know, that does it for so many people. And I was like, this is what I want for my life. I started building niche websites online. After a year or so of that, I decided to book a one way ticket to Costa Rica and that was 2011. I never looked back. Spent nine years traveling the world and then found a place I loved in Barcelona and stayed put post Covid and gonna stay for a very long time.
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Yeah, found your place, man. I want to dive into this Costa Rica thing a little bit because somebody might just pass that by. So you get to Costa Rica, right?
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Yeah.
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And take us through that, that first day, first weeks, the mornings when you were waking up, like, what the heck am I doing? Because I know you probably had that happen occasionally. Like, what am I doing? This is, this is not what I was programmed to do.
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Right? Yeah, but it felt so right too, Mike. At the same time it was like, oh, this is not what I was programmed to do. Everybody else back home that I went to high school and college with are in a job right now that they probably hate and, or if they haven't started making babies at that point. And I'm here in Costa Rica and also.
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I don't know what I'm doing. I'm scared half the time. And also enthralled. Enthralled on this big adventure half the time. But it also just felt like there was nothing else that I could be doing in that moment because I didn't want to go back home. There was only. I just knew I needed to see the world and that was the first step. And, and I did. And I stayed at Costa Rica for a year, living on the beach, you know, building business online, doing some contracting work and making it happen.
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Yeah. And this resembles entrepreneurship very well because you go to a different country, you're, you're just kicking off this new thing, this new business, what have you and there's a lot of uncertainty. Yeah, right. And where's the next dollar coming from? To make sure I'm, you know, I'm in a foreign country, for crying out loud. Like, yeah, people don't know me, you know, and, and so take us through that process of how you kept, you kind of made this thing before constructive versus my thing is everything always works out for me. I look around at all the animals and they're always seem to be taken care of. They wake up in the morning, they got their stuff, why wouldn't I be taken care of? But still there's uncertainty that creeps in. So can you take us through how you overcame that when you're making 2,000amonth at first and then where's the next dollar coming from kind of thing?
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Yeah, it was, dude. I just have this faith that if I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing, I'll be taken care of. And also kind of naiveness of like, well, I can't go back. Kind of like I just need to move forward. There's, there's going back is not an option. And, and calling to just follow wherever my highest excitement is. And I know everybody doesn't have that because they have different ways of feeling safety. I think that's just kind of like, it just felt so right and it felt so appropriate and there was nothing else I could do. You know, I couldn't like, I had been in relationships as like, I couldn't marry because I wasn't ready to marry. I couldn't.
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Go back into like, I have a master's degree, I had an mba, you know, and I, I couldn't like fathom to go back to the US and get a corporate job and, and make good money. And it was just like, why, why would I do that, you know? Yeah, because this is like so in alignment and this is so much fun. I'm in Costa Rica, I'm surfing, there's monkeys on my roof every single morning. You know, everybody's tropical. You know, it's like we're having bonfires on the weekends, on the beach with friends. Like that's. That was appropriate. That was, that was what I was supposed to do. That was my heaven at the time.
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Yeah, yeah. And when did you start getting some momentum in business?
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It took a good probably three years or so. I mean, I had some momentum as I left because I started niche websites beforehand, but they didn't start picking up because I was, I was having so many adventures. Like I moved to Peru after that. I put together a charity adventure type of business where we would go do these charities in Peru and Costa Rica and Ghana and take people on these adventures and helping out people in need while we were there. And then, and really I think a big Shift happened in 2014, 2015 and I started, I believe, one of the world's first co living. It was called the Entrepreneur House. And I started originally in Barcelona and I rented out a building and we had 12 people come from all over the world that were like myself, online entrepreneurs that wanted to spend three months in Barcelona working together, building business together and that and I got plugged in and I still really started to expand my network when I did that. I started my podcast then in 2015, and things started to make a significant shift.
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Okay, I gotta go deep in this section too.
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Yeah.
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All right. So first of all, first thought to come to my head is, man, that would be a great reality show. Right?
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We. We thought about it. We thought, yes, yes.
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Yeah, because I mean, well, and then where did you find the people? Like, how did you promote that?
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I was a part of some, like, online, you know, digital nomad type of communities, and I just plugged into there. Yeah.
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Okay, and then you had 12 individuals, 11 other people. Yeah, 12 other. Okay. And then what was that like? Was there any. Was there any, like, misaligned people or me, me, me people or what? How did that all shake out?
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No, because when you get the commonality of a. Not just an entrepreneur. Because when you get, you know how it is when you get around other entrepreneurs, you guys just like, vibe, but there can be some outcasts, but then an entrepreneur that is willing to.
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Pack up his or her computer and then go live abroad, so you get a double commonality there. And so, like, mindedness is not difficult. Of course, you know, from time to time there were. People would have friction. It was natural, you know, but for the most part, like, we also, I think my dynamic, I'm really good at bringing people together and raising the vibe, creating situations where everybody is excited to be in that. Like, even in college, I was throwing the parties, you know, and so. So I just applied that. And it was like, let's just bring great people together, mix with some other, you know, locals that are around here and have a good time. And that kept the things going because, you know, we were living together, nobody knew each other for the first three months. And I. But I consistently had events and parties and things going on where people were just having a time of their life. And a lot of people, half of them, it was, you know, they had been traveling before, but the other half, it was their first stop after leaving their home country. And. And everybody is just incredibly excited and having a good time and building business.
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And, you know, speaking of the reality show, were there any conflicts and were there any romantic relationships that kicked off or anything like that?
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There were plenty of romantic relationships.
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Yes.
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And our conflicts weren't.
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Weren't bad because if people had friction, they handled it like adults. And I think this is another thing. It takes a certain level of maturity to be an entrepreneur, but then also a level of maturity to be an entrepreneur that can travel the world and it takes a lot of open mindedness. So. And it then me, I'm diplomatic as well and I'm again the, the, you know, I can make things at ease for people. So, so it was just, it wasn't ever that bad. Sometimes like some friction would come up and I'd have a talk with both individuals and, and we'd sit down and people are like, yeah, you're right. We're here having this amazing dream life. We could be back in our home countries working a job that we hate, but we have great businesses. Like, yeah, let's just have fun while we're here. Yeah.
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And were most of them solopreneurs?
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Some, yeah. Back then, you know, that was the early days of digital nomadism. So we would get solopreneurs but we would have plenty of people that had teams, small teams. Nobody came actually one individual, a few, a couple of individuals that did come. They were starting to build like really good sized teams. I don't know if you've ever heard of Stefan Georgi, but he's amazing entrepreneur to this day. I think he scaled, he sold a million dollars on stage once. But he came to one of our events and he had a good sized team when he was at, in one of our houses.
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Okay. And then did you guys co. Mingle the locals with you?
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We did, yeah.
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Were they parties and stuff and entrepreneur? Yeah, yeah.
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There's parties and, and dating and you know, all the fun things you would do. It was almost like college all over again.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing, man. I love that. You know, I wish I had. Sometimes I think to myself and I can't get, obviously can't go back, but now I can do it now. Yeah, but I like, man, I feel like I didn't understand what was possible. I, I couldn't, I didn't have that mindset of openness. Like what was really, you know, just didn't cross my mind that that was even an option. And I, I don't know what was stopping me, but I just didn't have it at the time. Yeah, but, but now I'm full throttle. Like. Yeah, I can tell you, you know, and we just rented a 25 million dollar mansion a month ago and I never did that before and I just did it and it was, went amazing, you know, and I was like, why didn't I do this before? This is crazy.
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Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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You know, it's. I guess we're all, we all grow at our own pace. You know, and I'm a little hard headed but so, all right, so then as you're doing that, you're starting to realize the understanding of community and building like being around the right kind of people and what can happen when you start to collab and energy starts to, to resonate at the right frequency with the right people. So when did you start the founders community?
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So I started that post Covid right after Covid launched and one of the things I found out my first three years as a digital nomad, I was lonely because there wasn't a lot of digital nomad communities back then. There's not a lot of things happening. And I was like, where are my fellow entrepreneurs? Traveling the world. I read the four hour work week. I'm sure I'm not the only one. And so that's when I really started to build the community, created the Entrepreneur House. And then I, I, you know, again I mentioned the Entrepreneur House was kind of like college all over again. I got into a relationship and I was like, I can't keep living this lifestyle. And, and I saw what it would take to scale a co living. Most of them don't do very well actually I don't think any of them do very well except now ones that have like bought the real estate and they, they, they do better. But back then nobody was doing well and I was like, I don't want to, I don't want to live this lifestyle and I don't want to scale this business. So I took the, the methodology we were using inside the Entrepreneur House and I put it in online systems and I continued to grow it. And then when Covid happened, you know, something both you and I went through, we, I knew a recession was going to happen because you and I were both in the mortgage business back in 2008 and I had lived through a mortgage and most online entrepreneurs at that time had not. I'd lived through a recession. Most online entrepreneurs at that time had not lived through a recession. So I started a free mastermind and it was five weeks, 72 people signed up and it was there just to serve and to help people go through the chaos of COVID because everybody was going bat shit crazy. And so then I just turned it into a paid mastermind and we kept running it, running it, running it. And then next year when we could travel again, I decided to do our first in person events and then give it a name, call it a community instead of just an online mastermind. And then we've continued to build it, you know, ever since. Yeah.
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So that was what, five years ago now, right?
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Yeah, it's been five years in covet. Six years, dude. It's almost six years. Yeah.
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And how often did you have events after you started that first one?
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We would do a couple events per year. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
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And then the innovation of it and evolution of that group. What, what did, like what was the process for that? What are you thinking about as you're doing that and how has it evolved?
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It was always designed for people that had seven figure businesses and higher. So it stayed at that. The community, of course, has grown and the caliber of entrepreneur that comes has grown as well.
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But originally I started off doing adventurous events. So we actually did a kidnapping survival course was our very first event.
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And then our next one, we went to Las Vegas and flew and stunt airplanes and drove race cars. Know that. Which was pretty fun. One of them, you know, twice we went to Morocco and stayed in a desert camp in Morocco. And then something started happening with my podcast because I was interviewing billion dollar founders. I started nurturing those relationships and seeing if I could do. I got the idea once to do an event with a guy that was a billionaire and through our connection and a friend of mine set it up and then I sold some tickets and I think we had 20 people go and we did our first event outside of Austin, Texas with the former owner of the Houston Astros. And we sat down with him talking about how he scaled his wholesale grocery distribution business for the day. And I was like, I love the adventurous events, but to do this like this, to hang out with a billionaire, this is. I mean, who else is doing that? So I just continued to do that after that event. I had four others in mind that I would like to do events with and I reached out to all of them. All of them were open to it. And we just started lining those up, lining those events up. So we've done four of them so far. And that's our annual main flagship event is we'll take the group and some non members come as well. And we hang out with a day or so with a billionaire open Q and A sessions. He dives into our businesses, tell us what he would do, what he would not do.
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And take the pictures. Everybody, you hear the stories, everybody's excited. And then. And then that's it.
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A.
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That's a wrap. So yeah, that's kind of how we, what we evolved to.
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Yeah, I like this. And so okay. How you mentioned you nourish the relationship.
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Yeah.
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So what's your, what's your approach to nourishing a relationship not just with a billionaire, but with anybody. But some people get the idea of billionaire to be difficult, but it's not necessarily. But how, what is your approach to that?
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Yeah, yes. The first thing I do is like, after podcast, I always ask, like, is there anybody you're looking, Sometimes on the podcast I ask, is there anybody you're looking to get connected with or any way we could support you? And I think those individuals, believe it or not, don't have a lot of people asking that question because of their status. And so they, you know, and you know, I make a good show with them, so I speak to them for an hour, hour and a half or so, and we have a good rapport by the end of the show. And they said, yeah, I could use this, or I'm, I'm looking for this investment or I'm, I'm promoting this book or, you know, I, I, I noticed you interviewed this person. You know, is there any way I can connect? And, and then I just like link them up. Like, I did a call last night with a guy that built a company, Sam Goodner, called Flash Parking, which was basically the software on a phone where you can scan going into a parking lot or you can book a space on your phone. Yeah, yeah, great. Yeah, great guy with another gentleman named Ron lynch, who basically made GoPro famous. He was the marketing agency that took GoPro from 500K to 600 million in those videos. Videos with the no face on it, like a helmet or glasses on it, that made GoPro go viral. He was responsible for those. And they were both in Austin and they had some commonalities. And I said, sam, would you like to meet with Ron? And Ron and I are close. So Ron was like, yeah, I want to meet with Sam. And then we had a call and I get to be a fly on the wall when those two individuals meet. And that's cool. That's really cool. And then I have another call coming up. I've interviewed three females that are billion dollar founders, and I asked all of them. They were all passionate about female entrepreneurship and getting more women into entrepreneurship. I said, would you guys like to have a group call? And they're all like, yeah, absolutely. And so that one's coming up soon. And I get a watch when three women that have built billion dollar companies get on the phone on a zoom call together. And then afterwards they're always like, chris, what can we do to help you? And I'm like, well, I have some ideas. Or maybe I do. Or Maybe I don't. And you know, I just get jazzed from that. Like, I'm sure you do as well. Like, yeah, connecting those individuals talking, it's like, oh, man, that. How cool is that?
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Yeah. And, and by the way, congratulations with all this, because I know what goes into this.
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Yes, I know you do.
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What, what, what did you notice with those three ladies talking and how do they communicate differently than other people?
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So that's coming up in a couple weeks.
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Oh, it's coming up. Okay. So yeah, but how about, how about the conversations when you're in a room with the billionaires? And you know what, what do you notice differently about the way they think and speak?
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Yeah, first off, one, they're all incredibly human. They're just like you and I and anybody listening, whether you have a 9 to 5 or laying bricks, you know, like, we're all just so human. We're all, we all want the same thing. We all want to be happy, we all want to be around good people, we want to live a good life. We want to, you know, take care of our loved ones. That is all the universal similarity amongst all of us. So if you know that going into the room, then it's like, ah, like I'm with a human. I'm not with a billionaire. I'm with a human. And a lot of them too are incredibly humble because as you know, building this podcast and as they know, responsible, being responsible for thousands of lives and sometimes millions based on whatever their business is and who they're, you know, the, the wholesale grocery distribution guy, like literally, he was supplying all the super Walmarts around the world with groceries. And so, I mean, that responsibility is. He's feeding the world. He's flat out feeding the world. Yeah, so you, you, they, they form this humility and you know, you have the Monopoly, Monopoly billionaire, the old school billionaire that's an asshole and you know, destroying people's lives and firing people like all this, they just, like so many of them want to take care of their people. They want to. It hurts them when they have to fire. Especially mass layoffs. Like they paint. It's not an easy thing for them. And the other thing too is like, I think they're just, they're just, they, they couple. There's a couple things. One, some of them just get lucky. It's the right market, the right time with the right product or service. Just like Steve Jobs, if He was born 10 years earlier, we wouldn't have Apple as it is today. Right?
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So sometimes they just land in the Right place. And they, they, but the other thing is, Mike, they, they all really, really, really love and believe the thing that they're building is helping the world. And they think this thing is just like making the world a better place. And they have blinders on. They're not like getting into the NFT or the crypto thing or the AI thing or, you know, they're not like, they don't have a side hustle when they go home. They're like, I've got this thing. I know this thing works and will continue to work. I know it's helping the world and I don't want to focus on anything else except this thing. And most all of them, you know, spend at least 10 years in their first first thing. It's not like a three year hustle, five year hustle. They spend a decade on it. And some of them, even one guy I interviewed, Jeffrey Kent, he built one of the largest travel companies in the world called Abercrombie and Kent. And he said, chris, I didn't even make a million dollars my first 10 years. Most people drop out by then or sell or, you know, they, they make a few hundred thousand, they go sip coconuts on the beach, buy a house, whatever. He's like, it took me 10 years to make a million dollars. He goes, but year 10 to 20, that was nice. He goes, but 20 to 30, that was really nice. Yeah, and, and that's just the consistent consistency and longevity that they have that so many people give up beforehand.
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And what about this? What about, you know, I've have met some people that have forgotten what it's like and couldn't really articulate what it took to get to where they were. They may lose touch. They don't really know how they did it. It was just kind of an innate genius in a way. And they couldn't explain it necessarily. Have you ever run into anybody like that?
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Only so everybody that I've talked to, I think I've been fortunate. None of the billion dollar founders have been able to explain it. I think some people, like even at high six or seven figures have lost touch. It's an ego thing. The ones that I have talked to, I just don't think they, the ones I've been fortunate, I guess they've lost touch.
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I really just, just. Yeah, maybe I'm just lucky with that. Now, mind you, everybody that I'm talking to are people that have scaled a billion dollar company, not people that have inherited millions and then went to billions. Right. They started out, you know, scrappy as you and I, they started out selling, you know, credit card processors door to door with a, you know, in the back of their car. Right. They started out gritty, like trying to take over a failing business, you know, and then turning it around. And so when I get on the microphone anyway with them, they remember the pain, they remember the challenges. I have talked to some people that are co founders in these businesses and if they can't explain it, and this is very few, I can think of one person in general, maybe two. If they can't explain it, it's because they don't have. They're not that personable in communication. They were the, the introverted coder or software person that is not, you know, doesn't know how to communicate that stuff really well.
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Yeah, it's always interesting and I'm always, you know.
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Interested in the, the communication abilities of, of billionaires.
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Their memory of what it took, if they haven't forgotten where they came from. And I met some amazing ones as well that were just like so humble. They showed up to my events, they didn't ask for anything. I tried to give them something. They're like, no, but yeah. And so finally here, as we wind down here, we're up against the clock. What's the vision from here? Where are you going now?
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So I'm gonna finish. We're doing a series of a hundred billion dollar founders. So I'm gonna finish that.
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And then continue to build our, our business community. I have another business, I have a shipping brokering shipping deals that I work on as well. Continue to grow that. But man, as long as I'm around entrepreneurs that are focused on growth, they're good people that focus on growth and scaling their businesses and interpersonal growth. I'm just going to continue to plug away and do it. And I podcasted. You know, your podcast is amazing. You have over 500 interviews and just imagine what four years. Five years. Four years.
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Actually, actually just on this S. RSS feed, my other one got cut off for some reason. So I've, I've done probably a thousand plus of this episode.
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That's amazing. That's amazing. I have 500 interviews and another 100 of non episodes interviews but it took me 10 years. So. But you know the magic podcasting, like I don't plan on ever stopping this because it gives you so much. So much.
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A
Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you. The final question here is like the podcast and the community that you've built, what has it done for you personally in like you know, as a person.
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B
It showed me the important importance of long term growth. Staying consistent at one thing and compound interest on staying consistent and at one thing. In the early days, so many entrepreneurs, including myself, would bounce from one thing to the other. Even when crypto NFTs and AI, not AI, but cryptos and NFTs got big, it was very tempting because I had a lot of friends making a lot of money. And so it's very tempting to start the side hustle or another little thing. But I mean the more you just put your passion, your love into one thing and really grow it, build it. And just like you, man, I mean you've done amazing things with focusing on what you're doing now, like that that is incredibly fulfilling. And I bring it back to is like, what are you married to in business, in your work, what are you married to? Like you, you're. If you get married, the idea hopefully is you're going to stay married forever. And you have to go through ups and downs and all this growth and changes over the years. What are you married to? And work, you know, and how long are you really going to stay with it? You're going to bounce around five years, you know, three years, five years, every few years to another thing. And will you miss out on so much potential if you do? Right? Yeah.
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A
So yeah, yeah. You talked about the compounding thing. Well, you know, when I left the mortgage industry where I was making millions, I came into this and I was first like, I gotta make the money, gotta make the money, gotta figure out how to make money. It was transaction and I'm like, wait a minute, wait a minute. I want to be, I want to, I gotta understand that I found my genius and I gotta be create this art and I gotta handle this like I'm an artist.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then if you do it enough and you become that one, that's where this name came from, you become that one artist. The value skyrockets.
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B
Yes. Right.
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A
So don't you gotta have patience now, I have a phrase, patient urgency. You gotta be urgent with the things you know you need to be doing. But you have to have patience with this process because like you said, it could take, it could take 10 years, it could take what have you, whatever it might take if you know you're on the right path as far as your mission. Yeah. I mean, and I, I had to sacrifice, you know, the money for a little while. You know, it is what it is and, and then, but man, it's starting to come around now and yeah, it's we created what I call an attraction model instead of chase, you know, So I love, I love what you're talking about, Chris, and I love what you're doing. I appreciate the work that you're putting out into the world. Anything I can do to help, man, I'm here. We're friends now, so.
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B
Yes.
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A
Where can people go deeper with you?
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B
Check out the podcast on all the apps, the business method podcast. If you want to check out our business community, it's M3 Club, Amazon, Michael, the number three club, and, and Instagram at Chris Reynolds Live. Awesome, man.
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A
Go check them out, folks. Thank you so much, Chris, for your time today.
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B
Thank you, guys.
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A
All right, hang tight while I wrap this up, folks. Make sure you go and hit the subscriber follow button at the top of your favorite podcast platform and keep coming back and keep taking things from these episodes. Take one thing from today. I know you heard one. At least one thing that you can implement in your life and change your life and make those lives around you better. That's the intent here on the what do you made up show. Until next time, it's your boy C Rock signing off with Chris Reynolds. See that one.