← What Are You Made Of?
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Welcome back to the Woody Made up show. It's your boy, C Rock here with Marina Franklin. And we were just chatting it up before I hit record and talking about some of the. The worst experiences I had in podcasting. And I told her one about how I had a great conversation with someone for like 30 minutes and I looked down and I wasn't recording. So. Oh, Marina, what am I going to do?
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Which I've actually done before, so I, I totally get that pain.
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Yeah. Thank you for being able to relate. I don't feel like such an idiot now. Anyway, listen, Marina, we, first of all, welcome to the show. And I just want to say, first of all, we start the show with the same question every time. And that's what are you made of?
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B
Well, that, Yeah, I had to think about that question because what I made of may start off sounding sad, but it's a part of my resilience. I would say breast cancer history is part of what I'm made of. It's what's given me a different outlook in life, in the way that I perform, in the way that I choose everyday things. And it, it's what makes me resilient. I would say it's changed my whole comedy routine. It's made it more meaningful and, you know, it's, it's like the worst thing that could have happened to you, but the best gift because it gives you like different glasses on life.
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Yeah.
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So I, I would say that's pretty. I was about to say sugar, but sugar is bad for cancer, so. Yeah, we'll leave sugar out of it. I'm not made of any sugar, but I'm definitely made of a lot of laughs, a lot of comedy, a lot of, like, you know, strong history.
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Yeah. Yeah, I love it. Well, when you had that cancer diagnosis, like, what was your. Besides what the doctors told you with the normal chemo or whatever you went through there? But what was your go to thing? What did you change almost immediately when you went home?
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I changed the people around me. I had to surround myself with very positive people and people who weren't giving me stress. And so I just created a boundary around myself because every day is really important. You're the one thing they will tell you. The people that I've also gone through, through it before I was going through it. Was that your happiness and your mental state is very important.
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Yeah.
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It's key to your treatment and getting through your treatment and staying positive.
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Yeah, for sure. And that's important for anyone, not just anybody that's got diagnosis like that, you know, most people don't. They're not intentional with that. And for me, yeah, I don't take kindly to any negativity around me. You know, I'm very, very conscious. One thing I always think about is, you know, we have four areas that we should be focused on. Our thoughts, our words, our actions, and the people we keep around us. And if we keep an eye on those four things, you can actually create the universe you want to live in.
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It's hard when you're a comedian.
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Oh, I bet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There's a. There is a lot of, you know, comedians. I, I'm self deprecating too, but comedians tend to lean into the territory. So you just have to, you have to know who you're surrounding yourself with, even in the comedy scene, even when they're trying to be funny. You just. Your understanding of it. But the. It's kind of funny because a lot of comics know me as the one that doesn't hang out as much. And that's because I really have to protect my space.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and you wonder. So. So I was in Miami one time with a guy that's really successful entrepreneur, and we were at a cigar lounge in downtown Miami. And I was like, man, I gotta, I gotta get to bed. He's like, listen, just hang out with me just for a little longer. And you know, he said, like, I've made some of the best relationships and had some of the best conversations when I just stayed out and not gone nuts and crazy, but just stayed out and hung out. And it's like, man, I just, I always think about, what about tomorrow? What about tomorrow morning? How am I gonna feel? Right?
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B
I know. Can we do it during the day? Yeah.
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But I stayed out that night and I did have some good conversations. So you. I kind of wonder sometimes, like, what am I, what am I missing? In the conversation part and the bonding part that can happen, the people that aren't going hard, not like, you know, doing drugs and drinking the Face off and all that. I kind of, you know, because there is something about connection too, right?
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B
Mm, yeah. I mean, you know, you find connections with people. I think in, in moments that you choose to like, you'll find people in spaces where you often feel most comfortable and that they're coming to you because you feel like you're most authentic in that space. And hopefully during the day time.
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Yeah.
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You know, like at night. I mean, I used to, you know, comics, usually, they like to hang out because they want to see who's is, is Dave Chappelle going to walk in? Is Chris Rock going to walk in? I mean, I know all these guys, you know, so I've seen them, they know me, I'll see them and they'll go, hey, you know, I did Dave Chappelle's camp last year and but it's, that's really for like a younger comic who really needs more exposure to people they aren't familiar with. Yeah, yeah.
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Well, how important has proximity been for your career?
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I would say it's in other words,
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before, while you're thinking about that, like in other words, is proximity more important than skill?
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No.
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Okay.
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Like that's like the legal like answers that you gotta explain. But no, because you still have to have skill. I think that it, it always catches up to you. You can have that proximity exposure, but eventually if the skill is not there, it will be seen. Especially in comedy, you can't really hide too long. You can, you can hide for a good year and hopefully you save that money up during that year where you're fooling people. But you, in comedy, comedy always comes out. It's always revealed. Everyone could see, you know, who's really good and who's not good. And that's the part, the longevity, like how long I've been in this career, I have seen the phases of people who've kind of skipped that step of skill and, and they will rise to, even to be a star. But the longevity of that career is it's, it's not there. It's very short lived. So you gotta, you, you know, my years of working at Syracuse when I was in a graduate student and I studied, I studied theater there and I got my master's there, taught me that work ethic. And it's just like it's, it's sustained my career ever since.
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Yeah. What does working hard look like in comedy?
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Well, working hard in comedy is performing every night. It's getting up on the stage, it's learning how to listen to. It's, it's working back to who you are. A lot of comics, you know, it takes a long time to get back to who you, you originally were. I've been doing it for over 25 years. So I would say like in the beginning you're your most authentic self and then you kind of work yourself out of it and then you sort of come back to who you are. And it takes a very long time. It's writing, you know, comics write every day. Checking that set list every night before you go on stage, listening to your set. That is that, you know, as I'm saying this now, it's like comedy has changed so much where people are now, you know, producers and editors, and they're clipping their. Their old sets. So the. By the time they get to actually writing a joke, they've got to leave the house and go on stage. But the real work of it is just writing, you know, nailing down that joke. I live in New York City, so it's fairly easy to go from one club to the next club, figure out if a joke is actually good and if you can actually fix that joke to make it even better in one day. In some states, it's a little harder because you don't have that. The number of clubs to bounce around or go to.
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Is it easy to get on stage in New York, like, find some kind of stage to get on to work things out?
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I mean, I'm speaking as a professional comedian, so for me, it's easy. For a younger comic, it may be more difficult. When I first started, you know, you have to have. You have to be funny, and in order to prove that, you have to get on stage. But in order to get on stage, you have to have a following that's going to come to see you. So it can be initially scary and somewhat like, how do I even do this? So you start off figuring it out, making those mistakes, doing what's called bringer shows where you bring your audience. But that never works out because eventually you have to make an audience that doesn't know you laugh, but you get to know the people, that exposure to people around you will help. Comics. When I was coming up, the comics created their own shows. I mean, I did comedy in a laundromat. You know, people washing their clothes. They did comedy in a grocery store. People are checking out. This is like, you know, 20 years ago, but this is what comics do. This is what they did in order to get stage time is they created their own space. So in the beginning, yes, it can be difficult, but if you have sort of that hustle in you and that really need to get on stage, you can make it happen.
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And then what about differentiation? You know, I have this brand called that one, and it's about being you. Differentiation is, like, so crucial in business even, because otherwise it's a commodity. You just, you know, it just comes down to who's the cheaper price, right? And so, like, differentiation, what are your thoughts on that? And then, like, how. How have you gone about differentiating yourself?
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Well, it starts off with you, you're either authentic to yourself or you're not. You know, there's a lot more comics today than there ever was, so it's a lot harder to differentiate yourself today, especially with social media. People go online, but I think the most thing is to stick to your story. What makes you. You authentic. My first joke was about my name, Marina. That's unique to me. It's not a great African name. My sister, she got the African name. Her name's Nailah, which means one who succeeds. Marina means a place where you dock boats, you know, so that's authentic to me. Like, no one else is good unless there's another Marina comic out there. I haven't seen one. And yeah, there's probably a Russian one somewhere.
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Italian or.
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Right. You know, everyone claims the name Marina, but it's, you know, it's a very unique way of entering a field where there are a lot of comedians, a lot of that may be talking about themselves in some way. So starting with your name is very unique or starting with just, like, what you've been through. I talk about breast cancer on stage. When I first started out, I was real open vessel. So I really talked about, like, growing up in Chicago, talking about my grandmother. No one has my grandmother.
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Right, right.
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No one has that story. I have that story. No one has, you know, my mother's story or my sister's story. So I really stick to the truth of, like, what makes me who I am.
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Yeah, yeah. Then you mentioned something that gave you a new perspective with the diagnosis. Right. I was reading a book. A friend of mine, a new friend of mine wrote a book called Blind Greed, and it was about his career in business and how he ended up getting arrested and all this. And. But he was talking about being locked up in a Nicaraguan jail and how, like, it was like hell. And. And, you know, he has three kids and a wife and how he was, you know, not going to be able to see them again. This and that. And I was sitting there, it was this morning. I read books in the morning time. And I was like, man, like, it just gave me a perspective. Reading somebody else's story about, like, the times right now that I get to hang out with my kids and my wife and all this stuff. And, you know, I think everybody needs to take time to really put things in perspective. Right. I mean, it's huge because it can change the way. When you change the way you look at things, your whole life can change. And, oh, it's like we. We get so focused on the, like, most trivial simple things, you know? Yeah. So did you. Did you watch the Kevin Hart roast?
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Yes, I did.
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What were your thoughts?
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I mean, there's so many thoughts. My. My first thought was, I watched the whole thing, which is a big thing, because I don'. I don't, like, watch comedy. As a comedian, it's very hard for me to watch comedy. I watch horror.
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Okay, okay.
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And it has more. I can. I can easily watch comedy and horror because I don't know anyone in the. In those movies. I know everyone. So it's hard for me. It's like, I know that it's kind of weird. It's like you enter a field and you're like, oh, no, now I can't watch it. But I watched that whole thing. It is funny. There were some racial jokes that just didn't land for me. But roasts are very cruel. Like, I came up in the days of, like, Patrice o' Neill and, you know, Colin Quinn and Greg Geraldo. I. You know, that Patrice o' Neill roast, if you ever get to see it. I mean, actually, he. What's great about Patrice was he added some of the young comics who weren't on the scene. I was one of them. And he. It was brutal what he was saying about me, but it was, like, so much fun to become a part. Like, you almost want someone to attack you because it's the biggest compliment. So I think the funniest things that I. I love. I loved Regina. Regina was. And Cheryl Underwood. Oh, my God, they were women. But she. But they held their own so much. I mean, I find, like, it's really interesting. I'm seeing all the social media stuff, of course, about how, like, the racial humor just, for me, falls flat because it's just as easy. But. But when you put on that, when
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it's good, it's trying to push, like, they. They try to push the line to see how far they can go, because that's what it seemed like. They were just pushing really, really far.
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Yes, but it's different. It's like when you watch what black comics do versus what white comics do, it's funny because they always. The saying is, black comics always focus on race, but not in roast, apparently. You know, it's like all of a sudden, it's white people focus on race. But I. I just. I mean, it was all, like, expected, right? I mean, these are the things. If you can't handle a roast, really don't go. It's not for the weak of heart. I think it's exposing what I've Always seen in the comedy scene, which is. It's brutal. Nothing is untouched. Everything. They go in. But I just think, like. I mean, I was laughing. My funniest moment of that roast was Rock, was when the Rock was talking about Kevin Hart's father. I. I don't think I've laughed that hard by myself. I think I almost had a heart attack. It was. It was too funny. I just. I couldn't even breathe.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It was so funny.
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Well, so, you know, the. The people I felt bad for, like you said, were the ones that they would say their name, hey, so and so's here. And then they would say, well, I don't have anything for you, and they move on to the next person. I felt so bad. Yeah. I wanted. Like, they want. You know, like you said, they. They want the attention.
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Yeah.
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And I felt bad when they just passed over people.
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Yeah, I felt bad, too, But I did understand it on a. Because, you know, I. I write in rooms, so I kind of understand why they. They did that, because they didn't have any jokes for that. They don't know that person. Like, I know one of the main writers. He knows all of the comedians on that panel, but they may not know Regina hall that well. Right. And she was. When you look at her, she's a hard one to write jokes for because it's like, what's. She's funny. She's one of the most talented, underrated, in my opinion, comedic actresses. But to make fun of her, it's. I wouldn't know what to do because I don't know her. And I don't think most of that panel knows her the way Kevin may know her.
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Yeah. Did you. Did you ever hear a story of someone taking things personally at a roast and then, like, anything happening afterwards or.
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Oh, yeah, all the time. I mean, back in the day, they were even more. I would say, even more brutal than what you're seeing, really, in that cat. Oh, God, yes. I mean, there was a joke about a booker who had. I think it's the. I forget what. The diseases where your fingers start to fall off. Yeah. And they made a joke about him, you know, doing his girlfriend with his fingers falling. Like it was. It. I mean, you're talking about, like. Yeah, it was pretty brutal. Yes. I'm saying. I'm. I'm telling you, I've heard the worst of the worst, and a lot of times, things will fly. And then sometimes there's these calls afterwards where there's like, hey, man, you know, he was just joking.
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Right, right. Well, you know, you know, what I picked. I picked up a couple times was, you know how Saturday Live, they started writing jokes for each other, and, and they, as they're reading the joke, they're like, I can't say this. I can't. And then they have to say it. Anyway. I picked that up a couple times with some of the comedians were reading. They're like, oh. And some of them even actually like, no, I'm not doing that one. Keep scrolling.
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Yeah. I don't know how they produced it. I, I figured I. I've. It was live, so they didn't have a chance to, like, you know, so they'd have. If they were gonna say no, they had to say no because they knew it was not going to get edited right out.
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And I don't think they. I don't think they knew a lot of the jokes that they were reading. That's what I picked up.
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I don't know. I'm not sure.
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Yeah, I was.
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I would think they would, they would have that beforehand.
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Yeah.
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The script.
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Yeah. Sometimes it looked like they were, like, shocked with what they're reading. Like, oh, my. I'm gonna get my ass kicked here.
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Yeah. They may have just, like, in the. In real time decided it's not gonna work. It's just not. It's not gonna fly.
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Yeah.
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Which is good timing. I mean, I think that's amazing that they can even do that and read a prompter and go and look. Make it look so, so natural, you know, for most of them, some of them, you could tell they were readings, but most of them were doing pretty good job.
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Now, when you first started and you're saying you were going back, looking at your sets. Right. Like, it's like an athlete watching film. Right.
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Yeah.
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In the podcast space, I've done over 2000 on both sides of the mic. Right. Podcasts. And I remember when I first started it, I would go back and watch, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, so cringe. Did you, did you have that same.
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Oh. Oh, my God. I mean, I edit my own podcast. I have. I had some editors for a while, but I've gone back to editing it, editing it myself. And doing that has made me a better host overall for my podcast because, yes, when I used, When I would listen to myself in the very beginning, I was like, I should never talk about politics. I, I, at first I realized I was like, where have I been? Like, do I read books? Like, it was wild, the things I would say and. Or not say. Or like. Like just hearing your own voice with. When other people are talking about. With their point of views. I was like, oh, my God, I sound. People are gonna think. I said, people are gonna think I'm like, this type of person, and I'm not this type of person. So. Yeah. And then a lot of times I would say things that I didn't need to say in between words, like. And you knows and all those filler words.
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Yeah.
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That I tried. I'm trying not to do now as I talk to you. But that's also because I used. I would listen to every episode, and I would hear all of the ways that I would hesitate, and it just was not interesting. And I would tell my friends who would come on all the time, hey, do you. Do you listen to yourself on these shows? Just listen to yourself, and maybe you'll. You'll get better. It really does help.
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Well, it's awareness, Right. It's being aware. Because most people don't listen to themselves talk and they're not aware. But when you become aware, well, it's
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painful to hear yourself.
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Yeah. When you come and become aware, then you have an opportunity to change something. You know, what's the process of writing a joke for you? You know, when you're at home prior to going out or. Right. You know, performing, what's the process? Like, are you just more observant and set an intention, and then when you set your intention, you know what to pay attention to that you can use?
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It's a great question, because right now, I'm kind of blocked. I mean, the shower is honestly the best place to write a joke. I have thought things and then set it to a comic, and they were like, that's funny. And if I hadn't said that to that comic. One of my best jokes ever is a comic that I shared with Bonnie McFarlane. And it's about pronouns, and it's about not being great at it as a black woman, which is a different perspective on it altogether, you know, and how, you know, like, I. I try to get it right. And I thought as a black woman, I was always getting it right. But I. Apparently, I was also being. Could get canceled at any moment. So I was, like, terrified of saying they. So because I met someone who was not a he or she, they were a they, which is how they want to be referred to, but in a sentence, structurally, just makes me sound like a runaway slave. So that's the joke. And then I do they's ready. They, they coming. You know, And I'm the only one who could actually, you know, do that joke. So that's my joke. And it was my joke for. And I. I saw some people try to steal from it. They tried, but they can't deliver it the same way I do, because it comes from a real place. It comes from a place of, you know, me being around young gen zers who were like, get it right. And I was like, I'm trying. It's new. And they were like, it's new to you. And I was like, that's. Yes, that's what I said. That's right. Why are you mad at me? I'm. I'm trying. I'm trying really hard. And it's new. It's so new. And I. Do you realize you're talking to a black woman here? So, you know, my process is very organic and slow. It comes from just watching, like you were saying, observing, talking to my comedian friends and taking those experiences and then just going on the stage with it. I don't sit down and write it. I may jot down the idea of what it is, but then I just go on stage and each time it just gets better. It's very organic. A lot of comics will be terrified at that. Some comics really have to write everything out and then go on stage. For me, writing everything out is less organic and sounds very contrived on stage and not that conversational. So whatever I'm going through that year or whatever, like, I rescued 40. 40 cats, you know, in the boiler room of my apartment building. Yeah, that's in my act, you know. Did I say 40? It felt like 40.
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Yeah, you said 40.
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20. No, it was 20. It was probably more like 25. But 20. 20 cats in the boiler room. And they all got homes. Just so everyone knows. They got neutered, spayed, and they all got homes.
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So. So what about hecklers, by the way? By the way, the, the organic thing, when I go speak on stage, I'm the same way. I have bullet points and I'm just having a conversation, you know. And so what about hecklers? Are you good at handling hecklers? Because that's more improv.
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Mostly. It's mostly improv. I mean, it's. Most of the time it's. It's fine if I'm in the mo, If I'm in the mood for it. And I'm not. Let's say I'm doing. Working on a late night set, which some comics are doing. And when you're working on a tight set like that, that's when the Hecklers come out because they see you're not. You're not there, there. And the worst thing is, is that you don't have the time to. To deal with them. You got to get that set down. But hecklers, usually the reason they come out is because you weren't aware you're not in the moment and you're not listening to yourself most. Most of the time, you know, and so usually it can catch you off guard and bring you back into it. If you're really funny, your response will be really funny. That's what I've always believed. If you're. If you're a really funny person, no matter what, you're going to be funny in the moment. Because comedy is about survival. And when a heckler throws something at you, a comic's immediate reaction is survival, and our way is funny. So usually I'm. I'm pretty good with it. Sometimes it takes me off my guard very rarely, but sometimes it'll just be like, oh, damn.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, and the audience will respond. If it's really a mean one, the audience will go, right? And they want to, like, get them for you. But your goal is to keep the funny in the room. So you want to go, no, no, I got it.
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Right, right, right, right, right. Relax. I got this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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What about stars that you've met or been around? Were you ever starstruck?
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Of course. I mean, I'm always starstruck with Dave Chappelle, even though he's very nice to me and very friendly and always has been very supportive and. But I'm always just amazed that he. Because I was in, you know, back in the day when I did the Chappelle show and I did the sketch Whack Arnold. It's the scene where I go, ew, you smell like French fries. So he always comes up to me with that line and. Because that's really. He worked at McDonald's, and that was his life, so it's like I'm a part of his.
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Yeah, that's cool.
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So he's always just really. I'm always shocked that he's like, hey. Even when I was working on my special, he called me up. He goes, hey, it's. It's Dave. I was like, yeah, I know. He's like, well, I'm gonna give you some advice. You know? I was like, well, okay, thanks. You know, but, you know, I. I love, like, Cedric the Entertainer. I worked on a show for Tracy Morgan. I was writing on Crutch, which is a show that streams On Paramount plus, and Cedric the Entertainer is there, and Tashina Arnold is there. And I'm completely starstruck by, you know, I've never been around Cedric the Entertainer, so for me, that was a huge deal. And just listening to him, listening to his advice, I'm also learning who he is and what type of person. It's amazing to me. So, yeah, I get starstruck. But there's certain people that I've just been around forever like, that I just know. And I forget that other people around me are like, oh, my God, you talk to Jim Gaffkin. I like, I've been around Jim Gaffigan for years. I know his whole family. So for me, it's. They're like family to me.
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1996, 95 or 96. I saw Dave came to our college in Maryland, and It was probably 50 some people in this little room, you know, but it was the funniest shit I've ever heard in my life. I just knew. I knew he was going to be a star. Like, you could just get that, like, when you. When you see somebody in the. Early on, it's like athletes, too. You can tell almost like this. This. The work ethic, the delivery, the presence, the energy. I just. I just knew, you know. You know what? I should be. I should be a talent scout, really. I have this unique ability to see things in people before they even see it themselves. I really do. But then I saw that, and then I got to tell you this story. I was in. Where was I? I was in Indianapolis, and I got a guy said, hey, I got backstage passes to go to Mike Epps show. This is like two years ago. And I'm like, all right. I called my wife. I'm like, I gotta. I gotta go to Tampa now. She's like, what? I gotta. I gotta fly to Tampa. I gotta. I gotta. Backstage passes, my gap show. Cedric was there. I forget who else, but. And so I'm in Indianapolis. I got to meet Andre Berto, the boxer in Indiana. Indianapolis. I was speaking at this event or whatever. So I go to the event. I'm sitting in there, and who's behind me? Andre Berto and his wife. And I was like, I just met him in Indianapolis. What are the chances that he's going to the same show? Not the man just sitting right behind me. So I'm like, oh, it's cool. What's up, Berto? How you doing, man? Good to see you again. I don't know how we ended up sitting next to each other. I swear, I'M not stalking you. Maybe you're stalking me. But. So then we go backstage after Mike set and hanging out with him, his family. And it was funny as, man. I'm just sitting there, and me and my. My buddy were the only white guys in there. They were busting our chops the whole time. And then I said, hey, Berto's out there, Mike, you know, you want me to get him back here? You know, he said he'd like to see you. He's like, yeah, go out and get him. So I go out. I have the pass on. I go back out. Roberto's sitting. I said, hey, Berto, Mike wants to see you backstage. He's like, all right, cool. So he takes him and his wife. We go down, and the person that, like, checks the. The badge or whatever, it's like, you got your badge. You got your badge. They didn't have a badge. And I'm like, they're with me. She's like, who are you? I'm Mike C. Rock. You don't know me. And she's laughing at me. And then I said, this is a championship boxer. Mike requested that I go out and bring her back. Like, okay, all right, go ahead and slide by. But I felt like the man because I had, like, some kind of power,
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B
you know what I mean? So cool. Yeah. So They're There with Me is the very. That should be a book title.
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A
Yeah, he's with me.
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B
They're with me.
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A
You. So. So, yeah. Oh, man. It was a good time. But anyway, listen, what's. What's the vision from here as we wind down? Like, what are you working on now? And what should people know about.
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B
So people should just check out my podcast. It's a really great podcast. It's called Friends Like Us. It is a woman of color podcast, but we have, like, a white. Once a month. It's our monthly. We have a guy once a month. That's our monthly, too. And sometimes it's a heavy flow because that can't get, you know, the right booking. So, you know. But it's. It's a fun podcast. We discuss hot topics. We've have everyone on the show. I've had Leslie Jones on the show to Amy Schumer to Rachel Feinstein. Mostly comedians, brother. No. I have, like, experts on. I've had, like, political science professors on. I have authors of books, major authors. I had. One time I almost had the secretary of hud. She canceled. But I was like, oh, my God. But we have, like, major. Yeah, like, people. The podcast has been around for almost 20 years, so. And also I'm just working on, I'm pitching a show right now, so we're developing it. I've, I had sold it like two years ago to fx. Didn't go all the way. So I'm revamping it. And hopefully.
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A
Yeah, no, hopefully. Hopefully it's gonna, it's gonna pick up.
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B
Yeah, it's a great job.
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A
It's going, it's going to, it's going to happen. Oh, man. Marina Franklin, thank you so much. And, and obviously they should check out the podcast, but where can they go deeper with you if they want to go? Besides the podcast, where's the best place to send them?
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B
Best place to go is my Instagram handle, which is Marina Y. Franklin. And you can also get everything from my website, marinafranklin.com because I'll also be in Boston July 31, and I'll be in Springfield, Massachusetts, on August 1, doing stand up so you can see me live.
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A
Let's go. Marina, thank you so much for your time today. I really appreciate you being here.
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B
Thank you.
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A
Hang tight while I wrap this up, folks. That's this episode of the what do you made of show your boy C Rock and Marina Franklin sharing what she's made of. Make sure you hit the subscribe follow button at the top of your favorite podcast platform and keep coming back. And until next time, be that one.