← What Are You Made Of?
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Every single day I feel Artlist IO Every single day I feel the pressure. Hey, hey, hey. It's your boy C Rock here. That one studio on the what do youo Made of show. Welcome back. If it's your first time, welcome in. And we are rocking it out here, sharing the journeys of our guests and what they're made of, the ingredients that have gone into making them who they are. Today I have Amber Romaniac. Did I pronounce that right?
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Romaniac. Close.
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Romaniac.
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What the heck?
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I forgot to ask that. I have this routine. I usually look at the name, but we were talking about other things. We were going deep with everything that's going on, so I got distracted. Romaniac. All right, Amber Romaniac is here. Guys, listen. There's people that do podcasting and they stick to it and they see results. So many podcasters start and they don't keep going. And Amber has rocked it out over 500 episodes of her show, the no Sugarcoating podcast Protein or maybe surpassed 2 million downloads ranked in, you know, look top 1% globally. I know what it takes to do that and I know how hard it is. And you guys should go check our podcast out. But welcome to the show.
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Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here with you.
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Yeah, man, it's. It's awesome. You talk about emotional eating. Digestive and hormone expert. 11 years experience helping high achieving women create a level of body confidence, intuition and optimal health through powerful mindset healing. So let's get into it. How the heck did you get started in all this?
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Well, do you want the short of the long story? Truly, it was, it was an unexpected journey. Like, I went to college to become a broadcast television student. Like, I was going to be a news anchor. So thank goodness things took a turn in a different direction with, like, the way everything's unfolded. But I really struggled unconsciously with emotional eating my whole childhood. Teens. And then after my first breakup, I couldn't eat. I was just so upset about it. And I lost weight really fast. And then it's like this switch flipped and I kind of went into this like, I don't care mentality. And I just started binge eating. And it was like I would eat until I was so full I was sick. And then I would try to get to the gym and like work out for two or three hours and like fix it. And it just.
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You cannot work a bad diet.
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Oh, my God, no. Because. And then it just turned into like every day it was happening. And so I, you know, got to my quote unquote goal weight and then gained 80 pounds in four months. And then was the heaviest I had ever been. And just like fell into this deep hole of food addiction. Binging and purging, binge eating, emotional eating, like every aspect of it. And had no idea what was going on and why. And. And then it was like the low point moment after a couple of years of really struggling where I was to the point where I'd throw the food in the garbage to try and turn me off from eating it. And one particular night I had thrown it away. And then I was laying on the couch just kind of thinking, like, if I keep doing this, I don't think I'll make 30. Like I was so destructive with my body. Like the binges, the restriction, trying all these crazy diets, skip trying to fast and again trying to go and self punish in the gym and fix it. Um, for two or three years, like it did a number on every aspect of my being. My mental health, my digestive system was a mess. I had. I was flagging postmenopausal with my hormones at 23 and 24. Like that's what I did to my body. Um, and so my low point moment that really changed everything was, you know, throwing the food away and then later on coming back and actually digging through the garbage to, to get the food. That's how like deeply addicted I was. And then throwing it out, like outside and going outside to get it and was just like, what did I just do? Why am I doing this? I can't believe it.
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This whole thing is like. Yeah, this whole thing is like, it's like this weird game that's being played. You become into this, like, I don't want to like the simulation. You're like, it's you and this food and you're having this like conflict. Yeah, this is wild. Yeah, I can see how this happens because I think I dealt with it with alcohol.
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Oh yeah.
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Drugs, women. That's not nanny bored back. This is like long time ago, right? I. I feel like I can relate to this, but not with food. I never had a problem with food.
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Well, an addiction is addiction, right? And it's funny because I noticed my addiction more from food and then I was like at the mall, shopping every day, spending money I didn't have. And then I noticed, like from a relationship standpoint, I kept attracting men who had alcohol issues. Right. Because you mirror and attract what you are. And I just didn't realize I was deal dealing with this food addiction at the time. And, and yeah, it totally had a significant, you know, impact on every area of my life. I was broke, bank account's always in the red. I have a crappy job, I'm alone, I'm isolating, I don't see anybody. And I'm like in my mid-20s, I should be like, out living life up. And I'm like sitting at home, numbing out, watching a movie, wishing I was the character in the show, like, right. Getting a dopamine high. Chasing a dopamine high. And so. But it's interesting because we get so in our comfort zones even if we're suffering. Like, it was so safe and familiar for me to self sabotage with food, to chase a diet, to try and, you know, fix it in the gym. Even though I was causing myself so much harm, it was like, but this is what's safe and familiar. And the thought of the unknown, of trying to address it, to try to lose the 80 pounds, to try to figure out why I was behaving the way that I was, was so intimidating and so daunting and what I call the ego mind, that limiting voice of the mind was just like, don't bother, like, it's not a big deal. What you're doing isn't a big deal. And so I stayed in that like denial comfort zone of suffering for a while before that low point moment. And then the suffering crushed the fear of change, the fear of the unknown crushed the discomfort. And I'm like, no, I can't stay here. So that's really when things, you know, threw me onto the journey unexpectedly.
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There's shame involved too, because when you do it and you're like, ah, I remember, I remember drinking one. This is like one of my pride, early 20s. And I was so drunk and I was like, I swear off drinking so many times when I was younger, but then I was like, I'm done. And then the next thing I, when I came conscious, like, I wasn't like unconscious, but when I came aware again, I was, I was standing in front of a urinal in this crap hole bar. And I was like, how did I get here again? I'm drunk again. And I came up and I was like, this, this has got to stop. Like, this is so. Yeah, I mean, I've been through like those kind of things and I don't even like to talk about it a lot, honestly, because it's like I'm. It's not who I am. That's not who you were. You know, it's like we got caught up in this, like net, you know, what would you say you're made of?
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Grit, commitment, love, desire. Like full commitment to help this world heal. Like, this is why I'm here.
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Yeah. Yeah. So what do you think this like, root from all that stuff was?
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I think there's a few things from an emotional standpoint. Unworthiness. When we don't feel good enough, we have a void that we're trying to fill with food, alcohol, whatever it is that we're never going to fill with food. I think I really struggle with body image. Women are, and men are too. But women are so targeted in North America. The pressure from Hollywood media, magazines, right. The photoshopping, the editing, the convincing you you're not anything if you don't look a certain way. And, and what that does is it pulls you completely out of having an internal connection with yourself because you're chasing a number on the scale. You're chasing looking a certain way, you're chasing the clothing size, a certain image, you know, and I think that that was just such a huge thing, chasing looking a certain way because then I'll be successful, then I'll get attention, then I'll be loved rather than realizing, no, it's my responsibility to learn how to love and respect myself and to feel worthy and confident. And that's truly, you know, where you're unstoppable. And then I think, you know, the other piece of it was like growing up in a household where my mom was a full blown food addict. I just didn't know it until I healed. And so everything we did revolved around food. And there was always all the processed food in the house and no limit, so I could eat whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted. And I think that starts births like an unconscious addiction to sugar and all these things at a young age. And they want you as a lifetime customer of the food industry. Right. So I think that obviously these foods are designed on purpose and the commercials and the marketing and it's so easy to become addicted to food and then, you know, you're not educated on how, you know, as we eat these things, we end up inflamed and our hormones go off and our gut health goes off and your dopamine levels, your mood boosting neurotransmitter, that is a happy chemical hormone, you know, drops and then we can more easily get triggered into these addictive behaviors and chasing this dopamine high. So I think those are the things, the self worth, the body image, and then the way that the food impacts us physically, emotionally, chemically and can start this addiction.
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Yeah, yeah. I think it's important to go back to that root and say, okay, what is the deal? And become aware of it. Once you're aware of it, you can make changes if you need to and make the new decisions and change your beliefs and yeah, it's powerful. So man, I'm trying to think of food wise, I think I did go through a period of time where I was just like, screw it and eat everything. And then I would go through. I, I, I think I tit like touched on this kind of thing a little bit sometimes where if I had ate too much then I would like, oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fast tomorrow. You know, I'm not, I'm not gonna eat until dinner tomorrow. And that'll make up. Yeah, you try to have this balance sheet. You know what I mean? And it's, it's really weird when you think about it. Like when you're out of it.
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Yeah. It becomes a slippery slope because that's what birth y' all are nothing mentality. I'm all in, I don't care. And then, oh, I'm gonna fast, I'm gonna exercise, I'm gonna diet, I' the next day. And then it just fuels this. Just such an extreme pendulum swing. And obviously everyone's got different extremes, but once we wire that pathway in the brain of all or nothing, it will light up. As long as we're, you know, in this, I'm either having to be perfect with food or I'm all out with food or whatever that like choice is whether it's alcohol or shopping or drugs, whatever.
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So yours was food and shopping. Was there anything else you ever noticed with your addictive personality that you had. I'm not saying you have it anymore.
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But yeah, I think it was also technology, like binge watching tv, like mindless scrolling. But I would say those were the things. Thank God I never got into alcohol or drugs because I wouldn't be here. Probably like that's how significant my addiction was with food. So.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's, it's wild, man. And what were you doing when you got out of college? Like what kind of work?
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So I was working at a denture clinic and I was planning to get my degree in communications and then all this happened and then it's like, oh my gosh, I think I found my purpose. And so I, I went to school for natural nutrition. But honestly, like all that I teach my clients is like the self healing and all the things that I'VE been through. Um, and so then I birthed my business 11 and a half years ago, coaching women all over the world that were struggling with this very thing. Started the podcast about a year into my business. Actually had a co host at first that ended up not working out in my favor. Um, and then took the. The podcast. Sol. It's just been a growth ever since. And, you know, a lot of people don't realize, but 90% of the female population in North America struggles with some form of, you know, the. The term is coined disordered eating. I don't say that because it just feels very permanent. I say emotional eating or emotional relationship with food. And 90% of the female population in North America struggles with body image dysmorphia. 50% of the male population. And we have to ask why, Right? Why in North America is that so significant?
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Yeah, I mean, well, it's a programming of the mind, Right. Like, at the end of the day, they don't really put chubby people on covers of magazines.
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Yeah. Well, the other thing is not only that, but if you're busy fighting with your body, you're busy in addiction, you probably don't really feel very confident. You're not in touch with yourself, you're not in tune. You can't access your intuition. It's easy to control and manipulate you, and it's easy to deceive you because you're so caught up in your own struggles that when the external world pulls the stuff they do, you trust the external more than you trust yourself. So I think a huge reason this was all created because I really see part of these food addictions and all these things as a fabricated thing. Look at the food industry creating addictive food. Look at the weight loss and diet industries trying to make you a lifetime customer. You're being conditioned by the media and Hollywood. Like pharma wants you to be sick. Like they're all in cahoots to have you be disconnected and out of touch with who you are so that you can be a profit to them.
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Yeah. So do you think it's this deep? Like they, they make the food addictive? They get you fat, right. And then you're depressed and anxiety, and then they have medication for that, and they're all in it together there. Then they have Ozempic. Okay, well, you're fat now. You want to lose weight this way. Here, you can do this. But then you can. If you stop, you can't stop the drug or you're going to get fat again.
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Yeah.
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And then it's like this whole. The other thing is there is some natural. On the other hand, there's some natural selection, I guess we could say, or where men and women are attracted to. Like, men are attracted to nurturers and have a. You know, like they say, like, the big hips mean that the biggest, you know, for reproduction. Right. Or I might be not saying this is the right way, but. And a men look or women look for, like a strong supporter, like, that can generate strong, healthy kids. There's gotta be some of that in there, too, on the other hand. Right?
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Sure. Yeah. 100%. And a hundred percent. Yeah, no, that. There. There is that as well. And then I think it's. It's also about, like, the energy you exude. Like when you walk into a room and you are lit up and confident and you feel good about yourself, like, people are attracted to you. Right. Versus when you're in this negative frequency and you're insecure and you're being hard on yourself. Like, people feel that. So I think there is definitely the physical, like, primal attraction. We emit different pheromones. Did you know that when women go on birth control, it messes with their pheromones and you can potentially attract the wrong partner? And then that's why so many women come off birth control, and then the relationship doesn't work out because it's like. It's crazy. Like, it's so deep.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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So you're saying, okay, so let's say a man and a wife are together, a husband and wife together, and then the woman goes on birth control. Then she could stray because of that.
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Or I don't know if she's stray.
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But if they're single and they do that, then they'll attract a partner, then they'll be dating someone, and then they come off working. That relationship doesn't work out.
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It could possibly. Yeah, not all the time, but there's more information and research coming out about that now because it changes your hormone pheromones and you don't attract. It's. It's like a. Like a smokescreen. You're, like, not attracting the right person. There's so many things.
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Yeah, yeah. So, you know, when you think about all this, though, is it kind of overwhelming at some points where you're like, there's the food thing, the drug thing, the mental thing, the programming thing. And it's like, you can fill up a room with all this stuff, and then it's overwhelming. Then people are like, you know what? The hell with it. Screw it. I'M just going to do the best I can.
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Yeah. I don't find it overwhelming. I find it fascinating because it's like all my questions are answered. I always used to think, like, why is it like this? Why. Why are so many people struggling? Why is the food addictive? Why are they allowing these ingredients? But yes, when you're starting, it's a lot and it's overwhelming. So it's like baby stepping and taking it one step at a time. Because otherwise. Yeah. You get overwhelmed. You go into fight or flight, and then you shut down and you often will revert back to the same old behaviors. Yeah, right.
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Yeah.
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So we have to take it slow. Like, this is me learning over 15, 16 years. Right. So it's. It was a process.
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Yeah. You know, you're from Canada when you say it that way. Process. We probably say it wrong. Process. We say it wrong. I wonder what it sounds like. I always wonder what accents sound like to other people.
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Right.
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You know, like what it sounds like to Canadians, how Americans talk. Yeah, probably like, you gotta sound like hillbillies down there.
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No, we love. I love have. I have lots of clients in the United States. And all the different, like, subtle changes in the accents is so funny. And then they're like, we can tell you're from Canada because of how you say about, and you guys say toque and we say beanie and you say A and we don't.
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Yeah, yeah.
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This is funny.
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Yeah, yeah. All right, so going forward here, what is like the vision that you have? Because we were offline, you shared some of the things, and I. I don't want to share it for you. So whatever you want to share. Like, what's your vision going from here? Where are you taking this thing?
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Yeah, like, my big vision is to help eradicate food addiction and emotional eating and binge eating from this planet, fully 100%. However, I can do so men and women, and I would love, love, love like a dream would be to, you know, connect with someone like RFK Jr. And say, hey, we need help to eradicate this from North America. Why is this such an issue here? I have the background, the experience. You know, I've helped thousands of people with this. How can I bring my expertise to the table and help eradicate this so that people can actually heal? Because you can clean the food up, but people are like, I went through a period of my food addiction where I was binge eating bananas and natural peanut butter. So you can clean the food up, but if you don't do the mindset Healing, the inner healing work as well, the habits, behaviors, some of those people stay in the behavior. So to be able to bring it all to the table would just be an absolute dream come true and to keep growing and just reaching more people to get this information, education and support out. Because I think like you said earlier, there's so much shame and embarrassment behind these behaviors and there doesn't have to be. And you're not stuck with this forever. I think a lot of the marketing around eating disorders is like, oh, you're, you, can you recover, but you just don't know when it could come back. And I'm like, that's bull. You can fully heal this and leave it behind you. It does not have to be something you drag along with you.
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Yeah, you know, I, I know AA's had success. I know, I know, I know that. Right. But I don't, one thing I don't like is that when somebody's an alcoholic, they say after they've recovered, I'm a recovering alcoholic, I'll always be an alcoholic.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, I don't know about that because from what I see, and like, I, I just think that you label yourself what you want to be, not what you were.
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Yeah.
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And so, yeah, I, I, somebody can argue with me on that, I'm sure. And somebody, you know, that's from AA or whatever, they may have a problem with me saying that. But at the end of the day, like, you need to figure out who you want to be and step into being that person and then talk about that, not what you were.
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Yeah.
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You know, so, yeah, I see what you're saying.
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But they want to condition you to hang on to labels because it's part of what keeps the potential of remanifesting it. Right.
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Why do they want, not us, want us to manifest into what we want to be?
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Oh, because then we're free and sovereign and powerful and they can't control, manipulate us and make a lot of money off of us.
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So that's that. So then the question comes, can they be stopped?
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A hundred percent. It's already happening.
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Yeah. Like, that's the thing. I don't know. I mean, I don't know if anything that's ever been this big money making machines like Big Pharma Food. I don't think that. Has there ever been something that stopped? Like even the, even the, the, the war, the war machine, you know, like, I know. Has there ever, has there ever been something that big that's not that it can't. And it's impossible. But, like, has there ever. And here's the other thing I think about, Amber. Like, we have this holistic functional medicine, biohacking and all this coming in, longevity's coming in, and big pharma is going to have a problem with this. Right. And I was talking to Dr. Gladden, who's one of the top people in the space over here. He's in Texas, I think. And I was like, switch their business model, like all of us entrepreneurs have, and they could switch their business model and probably make more money than they're making now by focusing on preventative. Because people live longer, and then you have longer lifespans and now you have more time. And time is valuable to be able to make money in business.
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Yeah.
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So I don't see, I don't understand why they don't see that unless it's all about power and control.
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Yeah, I think that's what it is. But I just feel like we're reaching a tipping point on the planet where a lot of people see this now or are becoming aware of it. And the first biggest, powerful step that any citizen can do is vote with their dollars. Look at Kellogg's. The last few months, they've lost over 40% of their profit because of, you know, health advocates and influencers and people who have been sharing the truth about what's in their ingredients. And people are fed up.
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Platforms that allow free speech.
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Yeah.
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Because that's huge. And what was, what was your thought with what Zuck just came out with yesterday, how Facebook's making a shift? What were your first initial thoughts?
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I was like, really? Is this just a CGI video? And then I'm like, well, I mean, the election did just get certified. Right. So he's kind of probably doesn't really have a choice. I, I hope that actually happens because I've had posts get flagged that were like, food posts or, you know, weight loss blocks, and, like, they're getting flagged for, like, suicidal violence, whatever. And I'm like, and then I can't post for two months. So it's. I hope that all of that, whatever, whether it's being misread or purposefully censored, does get taken away. Because free speech is the future.
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Yeah, well, and the thing is, I was thinking, I know a lot of people were like, is this, is this doing this? What's his. His motives and this and that? And I, I, I don't Person. Very trusting person. So I, I like to, like, go with that first. And my first thought was, holy cow, man, this is amazing what's happening here. This transformation is happening. And. And also we're hearing a lot more people talk about God freely and their relationship with Jesus, that they're a Christian or what have you, and it's being more free. By the way, I think that from what I. This is just my experience. I think Christians have been suppressed more than any other religion.
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Yeah.
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And. Excuse me. And now there's more people coming out and talking about that faith and spirituality, and it's becoming more mainstream, and it's like, wow, this is awesome, because a lot of people have been doing it undercover and. And feeling that they want to do this, but then they feel ashamed of it because it's not good to talk about. You shouldn't talk about politics and religion at the dinner table. That's what we're all told. Right. And. And now it's like politics are being talked about all the time now, Religions being talked about. Are you a spiritual person? Did you grow up in a. Did you grow up in a spiritual household?
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I grew. I didn't grow up in a spiritual. Spiritual household, but I always, always, like, was fascinated by, like, energy, healing, and things like that. I'm. I really believe there's God, the universe, source, creator, whatever you want to call it. I'm not necessarily in religion. I support. Right. Christian, whatever people believe in, but I really believe in a higher power. I believe a lot in energy, and I believe in the power of our thoughts and our ability to manifest. And I believe we came here for a very powerful reason. So.
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Yeah, I'm not a big religion guy either. When I say Christianity, it's relationship. To me, it's all about relationship. When you start adding human beings in it, human beings screw things up. And so, like, I'm. I'm. And so most people, they get into the Bible and they shut everything else out to learn about anything else out. And. And in the Bible, it actually talks about, seek and you will find, and the truth will come to you. And so for me, I've studied all different religions. I've studied different spiritualities, different. I mean, science. And people used to think science along in different buckets. And they're not to be combined. They're actually. They are intertwined.
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Yeah.
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And what Jesus talks about a lot in the Bible is quantum physics and neuroscience. But he used a different language, different nomenclature.
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Yeah.
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And most people don't go outside to realize that. So then they call that stuff witchcraft.
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Yes.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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And it's like, guys, you're missing it. It's a shame you're really missing it because it's tied to everything. Like food tied to money. It's tied to everything 100%.
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And some of my biggest healings happened when I had energy work done or learned how to do it myself. It wasn't the food. It wasn't a supplement. It was that part.
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Yeah. What was the biggest. What was the biggest aha. Moment that you had that you can think of on the top of your head right now? What's the first thing that comes to mind? Like, this was, like this moment that was just like, wow.
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Oh. You realize something that sugar is 10 times more addictive than cocaine. And that's why I could not stop eating it. And it wasn't me and that I wasn't crazy. Yeah.
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Now I will tell you, I've done on cocaine, and cocaine is very addictive. Sugar is very addictive. But cocaine makes you like, I'm not guys. This is why it's dangerous. I've, like, it makes you feel like a superhuman, but it's. But it takes you down the darkest road you've ever been on. It always ends in darkness, and it's miserable. And so this is. I'm talking years ago, by the way. I'm like, I don't do any kind of jobs now, but, like, it is. It. It is. And if. If sugar is more addicting, that's crazy. I mean, it's wild because. Yeah. Cocaine is something out that the reason that it is so addicting is because it does make you feel like a superhero. It takes away all your inhibitions and makes you feel like who you should be. Really. It's weird. I don't want, like, this is not a commercial for cocaine by any means, but if we can figure out a way to get to this, that superhuman feeling without that. Yeah, that's what we're all aiming for.
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100. Totally. Yeah. And I think the thing is, is when we. Whether it's cocaine, sugar, alcohol, it's like, again, there's such a significant suppression of that dopamine after things wear off that, you know, the mood is so impacted in our brain chemistry and everything. Right. So it's. That's the darkness afterward. Every time I tried to recover, like, stop sugar, I would feel like, so depressed, and my mood was so low, and it felt like I was going through a withdrawal every time.
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Yeah. Well, we need those cycles of emotions acutely. We just don't want to be chronically in them. And that's what that stuff does, puts you in the chronic because you have to have the dichotomy.
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Oh, for sure.
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You know what good actually feels? You can't have that good or light until you have dark. Light versus heavy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. It's a very. It's a man. This is so much to think about here. And you can go down so many different, like, thought patterns with this. All right, so how is this? Are you married now?
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Yes.
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Okay, so how, how with what you do and everything? Because, like, one of the things I've, I've experienced when I've studied things and I start learning a lot of things, I become evangelistic about it. Right. And then you want to tell people about it. And the first people you go to is the people that are closest to you, and they're just like, mm. It's like, it's like somebody that gets in, that gets sold into a multi level marketing thing, and then they tell all their friends and family and. And everybody's like, oh my gosh, not this stuff. I don't want to hear about it. How was that dynamic for you with your relationship with what you do?
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B
Oh, my gosh, amazing. So essentially I just came into it being like, I'm unapologetically being myself, and if that's accepted, great. And if not, it's probably not the right relationship. I've helped him heal so much, so many chronic things through the work that I've done, and he's like, so grateful and it's rippled out and actually his family has, like, done so much like cleaning up all their fragrance crap and the food and everything and like, they've healed chronic pain and all kinds of things. So it's actually without me forcing or pushing anything and just being rippled out in a very positive way with him.
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A
So do you think it's better to talk about it to people or just start working on yourself and be a living demonstration about it and then wait for them to say something like, you've changed something about you. What have you done?
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B
Yeah, I think the living demonstration and embodiment is a great place to start because then if they have questions, they can ask. Otherwise, I don't force it on anybody.
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A
Yeah. People seem to start to. People seem to start to resent you when you start talking about it versus living it.
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B
Yeah, well, because, well, for, number one, for some people, they're in their stuff and it triggers the crap out of them when you start sharing or you're, you're, you've shifted because you're, you're pointing. They're like, I haven't done that. Yet I'm too afraid to do that. And then they start freaking out and projecting. Right. So this is the first. And for some people, you know, maybe it's just, like, they have their own focus and they have no desire, and it's just something they don't want to hear anything about. Right. So how do you.
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A
How do you approach people? How do you approach people if they're not ready? Do you just not. Or do you just. And you just wait for them to be ready? You do your thing or, like, in.
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B
Personal life or in the business.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
In.
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A
In general, like, it seems like. Well, I guess may. Maybe personal life. Right.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because if they're not ready, there's no sense in it. And you can bang your head against the wall. Right?
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B
Yeah. Oh, 100%. That's my parents. So my mom was diagnosed with Ms. Before I was born. And then I went through my healing, and, like, everyone's like, oh, your parents must, like, learn so much from you, and they must be so healthy. And I'm like, actually, my mom did not want my help at all, and she chose the journey of not doing anything to help herself, which is fine. That was her journey. I accepted it. I had to learn detachment. My dad, bless his heart, he started using better laundry soap. But for the rest of it, he's like. I think he's just in this phase where he's like, I am the way I am, and I'm not changing. And I don't force. I don't get upset with him. Like, part of his accepting. Right. And not trying to change someone unless, like I said, they come to me and they have questions. That's great. But otherwise, learning the art of detachment, which can feel really hard at first, is very powerful.
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A
Yeah. You know, I had the hardest time with my kids because I have the answers, and. I know, but they're independent beings.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it's like. So, you know, I. I'm. I'm actively working on this because, you know, I think I need to talk. You know, my son's 18. I think I need to just tell him, look, man, I'm here for you if you have any answers or need any answers, but I'm just gonna let you roll, bro.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And if you're not getting the results you want, you got to change something. And I'm done because I. I have this thing I. I like. And we're. We're doing. I was doing the StairMaster. We're doing steady state cardio today, and I'm like, you got to do this, man, we're gonna do this for 30 minutes. And he's like, well, do I have to do StairMaster the whole time? And I'm like, well, how about 15 minutes here? And then you can go work on. Walk on an incline. And then I found myself, like, when he's doing the StairMaster, looking over like, dude, why are you only on level five, bro? And then. And then he's. He's like. And he gives me an attitude. And then he gets off 10 minutes instead of 15. He goes over to today. What do you call it? The treadmill? And then I'm like, he's behind me, and I'm, like, looking back and saying, dude, what. What incline are you on? You know? So one aspect, there's like a. There's a line there. Because one aspect, I want to hold him accountable and drive him and push him.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But the other hand, it can. I can see how it can just get, you know, and I'm. I'm working on that, you know, that's.
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B
Good that you're aware of it, because this is the thing. You're right. Even with your kids, your parents, whatever, at the end of the day, they are their own individual being on their own unique journey. And we can deny others of learning the lessons and going through the things to go through. I was like that with my husband for a little while. I started my business first, and then he started a business. He does fabricated car parts specifically for Mustang Cobras. Like, the nicest stuff. And his business has just grown every year. And if he ever had an eb, I'm coming. Like, oh, like, I can fix it. Like, why don't you do this? Why don't you do this? And all he wants to do is, like, vent and just, like, tell me how he's feeling. And so I had to, like, pull back and just be like, he's great. He'll handle this fine. Like, there's nothing for me to fit. Like, but we do you care. You like. But then you deny them of their journey, and that's not good either. So. Yeah.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you for helping me realize that today.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Well, where can people go deeper with you, Amber?
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B
Yeah. You can go to the website at Amber Approved CA if you want to learn more about any kind of relationship with food and healing it. I have the podcast, the no Sugar Coating podcast, which is available on any podcast app. And then I'm on social, and it's my name, Amber Romania CO R O M A N I U K thank.
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A
You so much for your time today. I really enjoyed this conversation.
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B
Amber, thank you for having me.
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A
All right, My pleasure. Hang tight while I wrap this up, folks. Thank you so much for being here on the what do you made of show with Joy C. Rock in that one studio and Amber telling us what she's made of. Until next time, subscribe. Tell your friends, family, co workers about the show, about our guest, and be that one.