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Welcome back to the what do youo Made up show. Boy C Rock. Here I'm with Ashley Goner. Ashley, what's happening?
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Oh, so good to be here. What is happening so much? The beginning of 2026, I'm on a transitional year and I see a big shift and I'm very excited about life right now.
A
Awesome. Yeah. Well, with transition in like, what you're doing every day or in your business, like, what kind of transition?
B
Yeah, in life. I have two daughters, 17 and 19, married. But I had my podcast uncover your magic since 2020 that birthed through my intuition, something said start a podcast. Had an 8th grader and a 5th grader at the time. And there was no time for me to even fold clothes before I went back to pick them up. But I listened because I'm a yes girl. And when something comes to me, I know, like this I always use the word full body. Yes. You know, and it gives me that. I'm very much into. In tune to that. So, you know, so the last six years I've been doing this podcast, haven't missed a week. And that's my personality. I'm very disciplined. My daughter was saying, mom, this year you should be less rigid. And I was like, rigid. And she's like, well, you have to. Oh, you can't miss a week on things. Your workout. You never miss a workout. You. All these things I said, but that's a discipline, right? So I kind of took that to heart because I've. I'm an older mom. I'm 50. I just turned 57. And I didn't have my girls till 37 and 40. So I had my whole, you know, beginning of my life doing personal development. I was raised a Christian Science. My mom's side of the family, not Scientology. People always get that mixed up. But it's Christian Science, so it was always mind over matter and it was always understanding. Healing is all in your mind. And so I raised my girls with Abraham Hicks and Wayne Dyer and course in Miracles and understanding vibration and gratitude. And so my life before I had my little children was really based on. I was always, you know, I remember my dad had Wayne Dyer on the shelf, kind of. That was one of my first eye opening things. Always going to seminars. Tony Robbins live in San Diego at Abraham Hicks. But so my seeking part of life has always been and my understanding of our mind and our. What we're capable of and that we are so much more powerful than what we have been dumbed down to believe. Yeah. So I raised my girls Because I knew I was programming them that they could be, do or have anything. And how important they're just being the thermostat every day and understanding gratitude and having an intention, giving compliments. And now I see the fruit of my labor now at 17 and 19. So talking going back to my shift in the whole beginning of this conversation is I've really raised My whole life has been, you know, of child of this eight last 19 years has been raising children. And that is my full. I was fully in. You know, you don't want to be. I know you're a father. You don't want to have any regrets. Yeah, that's the most important thing to me. And I. And I don't. And I went intentionally with that as a parent their whole life. So now as you see them get older, it's like, oh, my gosh, it worked. Yeah, I planted the seeds and now I see the fruit of my labor. But I'm kind of in this place now where I see them shifting so much and I have classes on my. My website. I've. The podcast started a class on 2020 where all these parents were saying, why are your kids adjusted so well? And on, you know, they're in their bedrooms and can you please help my kids? So I kind of realized that was a need. So I started this class called Raising Confidence. I did that for the last six years. Still doing it. But I see a shift in. Under people understanding how important when they get to this age, getting ready to go to college and getting ready. Where I'm at in my life as a parent is they need to understand their intuition and their energy and seeing people and what groups they attract, why they are attracted to that, why they aren't attracted to that, why. Why letting them take their path when. When some people think you're not going to. You're going to go to online school, how. You know, we've drank the Kool Aid in life. You know, we've had, you know, you have to do this part of school and then you got to go to college and then you got to go. And I just don't see that. And I've. And I've opened my girl's eyes to that. And I'm in the shift of creating. I'm creating this agency with a woman that I met through this podcast that brings energy and mindset and understanding the two, how they work together. So I'm very excited. That started like in November. This whole thing kind of blossomed into this new venture. But it really is based on being a mom and raising children and understanding that when you raise them with the values that I did and the awareness of energy and what you can do, what your mind can do. Healing in here. And the words we speak, the thoughts we think. I mean, we can't even say a word in here that's negative because we're like, mom, cancel that. You know, so it's been that way for the last 20 years. And I see the shift now with them. So I'm kind of moving. I'm maneuvering my. My focus on really I want, what I want to do for that part of the world in that. In their age.
A
So it's an agency. What. What does the agency do? Is it like coaching? Is it courses? Is it cohorts? Like, what do you. What do you do? How do you.
B
Well, I have it. So a woman that we do it with, she's working. Enter. She's like an energy. She cuts cords. She's. Can. She can show the girls or the girls can show her a picture of somebody and says, oh, this is going on. And they're like, mom, how does she know that? So she has this gift. I'm. My gift is this mindset. Like the. They just work together. We're going to write. We're writing a book. The girls are writing a book, and it's called the I am Agency. So she wrote a book called Returning to your IM and. And understand. So when you think of the I am, we all. It's. It's nothing that you need to discover. You just need to kind of pull the onion laters that you've been, you know, been programmed to think to get back to your. To your. Who you truly are. Yeah. And to build that confidence. And when I see children, like just looking on Instagram at the girls, you know, their feeds, and I'm thinking, wow, these girls at the know, it just. I don't. I don't want to say. Breaks my heart, but it's like, it's just. You see, I can see right through it now. The girls see it as they get older. Like, oh, mom there. She's not in. She thinks she's not enough. She has to do that kind of a post. She. I know what her limiting beliefs are by the way she's posting. I can see her wounds, Mom. I can see why she's doing this. And. And so when I see my girls start speaking that language and then I see the world not. We're. We're trying to. I want to incorporate that into the world that they Are living in. So they have more people they can connect to.
A
Yeah.
B
Relate to.
A
So, so the, the client would be. Who would be people that are getting ready to go to college and are in college or their parents.
B
No, I would say parents. Young kids. I work at schools now that I work with 5 year olds to 14 year olds in San Diego. So that's amazing. And I get to start young. And the thing about that school is the parents are already awake. So they already have an advantage because they have parents that are understanding the importance of what we teach at that school. But it would, you know, the athletes, parents for sure. The girls do pageants. Pageant girls who have this like. I mean, I've been in that world for 10 years. So I. The girls see, you know, we're not. It's not a beauty pageant. It's a growing speaking confidence, you know, and to get to that, where you understand the energy of that versus going out and thinking you have to be this beauty, beauty queen and have your hair and makeup, then it's not about that. It's your energy.
A
Yeah.
B
So the girls understand that. But yeah, athletes, you know, usually like any kind of athlete, if they're. The girls played softball and they were on the rowing team for a few years. But sometimes I see the parents, they're. The way they set them up for their life. It's like, it's. Well, I did soccer, I did baseball. So you're gonna do it. And if you're not good enough. So then they start programming their children to basically I'm not enough. So I want to pull that into it and understanding that it definitely is a parent part of this program. Because I want it to be a team thing where the parents understand. Yeah. What they're programming and what they're doing for the children in these sports or pageants or life and have us. I just feel like we're moving into this world right now and this new frequency of the earth and people need to understand the power of that. And how if, unless you're gonna. Unless you keep, you know, the hamster wheel of life and you keep doing it, your parents do it, then the next generation. Until you put that spoke and you put that stick in that wheel, it's just going to continue. And I'm so about putting the stick in there and saying, let's stop and look because you're, you're repeat. It's on repeat. Yeah, right.
A
Yeah, yeah. You know, I was watching something about aliens the other day and I don't know what's out there. Right. But this, this guy was saying that a high intelligence officer was talking to one of the aliens that they rescued from wreckage. And the alien said to him, you humans have no idea what you're capable of.
B
Yeah.
A
And that could be looked at as several different ways, even if it's not true. That's a great straight line. Right. It could look. Be looked at as like you don't know how damaging you could be. But it could also be looked at as you have no idea of what you're really capable of accomplishing, you know, and we, we don't. And you're right. Like we've been programmed all our lives and it's the people, there's something, some force in power that does not want us to know.
B
Y.
A
And in the Bible, you mentioned Christian Science, but Christian, you know, reading the Bible, the story is there. This story, the battle has already been won. And, and how Jesus operated tells you that what we're really capable of, but we've been all programmed and beaten to like, submission almost right. To not believe it as a true story and what's really available to us. And when you start getting in alignment with, with what the, the Bible talks about for me, I mean, I've read it every day and it just makes sense to me now. You start getting in alignment with it. It doesn't always make things easier, by the way.
B
Right.
A
You know.
B
No, it doesn't.
A
It gets, it gets kind of tough. That's why there's a, there's a Bible verse that talks about, pick up your cross and follow me daily. You know, I don't know what Bible verse. I'm not a good remembering the.
B
I'm not either. But yes, I'm a full one. Yes.
A
Yeah. You know that some people do that all the time and that's good. Good that you know exactly where to find it. I, I'll go search it and find it when I need it.
B
Right.
A
But I've never been. I've never been John 3:16. I remember that one. But, but some people are like, on it anyway. But yeah, that. I agree with what you're saying and it's needed for sure. So. All right, so for you, before you had children, did you have a career at the time? Like, what were you working on at the time before you started having your girls and parents?
B
Yeah. So I always believe that when the way you're raised and the things that you were missing, you wanted to as a parent, that's really where my, that my drive is from, is what I didn't Have. I want to provide that. Right. So parents divorced, married twice. Divorced twice, married twice together. Not, not a. I mean always a loving family. Have two younger sisters. And then. But when I hit college, it was like, okay, I guess we have to go to college now. So I went to college, um, got my degree, went to my 20s and just like went to job to job to job. Didn't really know. And that's really where what drives me now with my girls. Where I'm like, okay, let's follow our passion. If it's, you know, one day it was this rowing team and I'm like, you're going to grow. Like, okay, let's go pageant girl, you know, so. But I let them follow their path. But it's because when I look back at my. In my 20s, it was like at one time my sister and I were sat down with these W2 forms. We probably had like 20 each because we'd had so many jobs. So I just, I. So I did that my 20s, got married for a year at the end and was just because all my friends had had kids and I felt like I was behind. I knew it was wrong. I was in Mon. I moved to Montana, which I'm not a Montana girl. And while he was. I knew it was wrong. So I left. I was working for my dad in that house. He sold tractor equipment. I brought the stuff back, moved back to San Diego kind of. My dad was in retirement and I brought him back into it. But it's all good. And then I said, I'm going to make myself as a 30 year old, not needing anything. I want to be self sufficient and build my own life. So I went to a woman that was selling her day spa, bought the spa with a credit card, my spa. Moved it over to this other place. It caught on fire. I bought a house with no money down while the, while the spa was caught on fire. I moved the spa into my new like kind of would take people to this chiropractor office. I just was not going to quit. Long story short, had this spa for five years and did it with nothing. There was no Internet. So I had all these amazing people come to work for me. And I mean breath work, psychics, all these Reiki masters. But that was. I was 30, I'm 57. So all these people were coming to me and met Richard like a year before I sold it. A couple years before I sold it because we got married and pretty much got pregnant right after. And the lady wanted to buy the spa. One of the ladies that was working for me. So I took that check to the bank, the best thing I ever did. And the houses that I bought with no money down, I was able to get the equity out, pay off all my credit cards. It was a very successful spa. I. I learned to fake it till you make it. I had no clue what I was doing, but I basically brought so much worth to who I was and what I could do versus depending on a man. And I really wanted to shift that in me, and I did. And now we've been married for 21 years and we have the two children. And really I was focused mainly on them until I 2020, when I really started this, my uncover your magic podcast and could kind of start doing something for me to like, start shining the light on what I thought, where we should, you know, focus on and it. The growth of my podcast. When I, you know, like, you look back at yours where you're. It's like watching your. You write a book because you're like, oh, I was interested that in 2020. Now look at me in 2021. I was asking those questions. You know, you just can't. I can't even some sometimes go back and listen to those episodes, but, you know, we all start somewhere. It's like I. That's one of the things I wanted the girls to learn from me is like, it's not perfect. It doesn't have to be perfect. You just keep doing it. And then you watch the. Everything just like, you know, you grow. That's what. Why you start doing something. That's why you say yes to something.
A
Yep. Yep. Yeah. I mean, I just had to get started. I had no idea what I was doing either. And I just started talking and recording it. I didn't know if I was going to publish it or not. And then you start asking guests and like, I wonder if they'll come on my show.
B
It's brand new, right?
A
They don't even have a show. Then. Then you get shocked when people say yes. And then you start getting some confidence and you start to roll. And then it changes your life. It changes who you are. It changes how you carry yourself. It's so funny how it works, man.
B
And.
A
And now, you know, I do 10 to 15 a week.
B
Amazing.
A
You know, it's like, it's. It's just not. It's not even a thing as far as thinking twice about it. Yeah. So. All right, so if you could have it your way with this new shift that you're doing, what is that going to look like? For you, like the finished product. What would that look like?
B
Oh, people understanding energy and mindset and where that will take them so quickly in life to understanding how powerful they are. And, and I just feel like that that is, it's almost like a movement that I feel that the earth and the, this humanity, this human body that we have and that we, you know, I, I'm a full on believer in God and that I am you and you are me. And you know, we're all one part. I'm God, I'm love. And that's where really what it comes down to. But when people, I just want to. What, what my real intention is is for people to understand their power. That, what it comes down to is believing that just their understanding, like, just for me teaching the girls their, the intuition and their whole life, like, you know, understanding that we aren't just these bodies, we're so much more than that. And just like the alien, you know, like, we're just, we're, we're these, I mean a little part of our soul is just in this body to experience this little tiny part. We came to, we signed up for this earth, right? Like this is the hardest school. So we all said, can we come? There was a line and we got, we got chosen so to live your life and like, wow, I got, I get to be here and grow my soul, grow who I am, be the person that God, you know, chose me to come down into this, you know, it's like, it's so powerful and I feel like this world has just been on this hamster wheel and, and it's the drinking, the Kool Aid and you know, not understanding and living life without the blinders on. Walking in your walking with the intention of how important vibration is. I mean, we can't go to the grocery store and, and I've always taught the girls that without giving compliments. It's constant now. It just is just natural. I mean you go, I walk with the girls anywhere. It's like, oh, I love your nail polish. Oh, I love your. It's constant. But that's, that's where I feel like the world needs to start. There's no competition. It's just you're competing with yourself. Well, you know, the girls learn this.
A
Is important for what they do in the, in the pageants or what they've done pageants is because it gets really scrappy and catty and all this, right? So with that being said with them being like that, how has that been different than if they weren't like that and they were more competitive and catty like, is there a chance that they can get pushed around and walked all over because they're like that?
B
They know everything is always working for them. That's the one sentence in our life, in this family. Everything is always working for you. We lose more than you win. Especially there's only one winner. And, you know, you work for a pet, maybe one a year. If you're lucky, you do too. But you're not lucky because you lost the first one. So you're trying for the second one on. But it's just understanding that everything in your life is all for a reason. It's all perfect. And they know that. And they've been knowing that for their whole life. So when we go through it, the we don't come out. Like Presley, for example, she's the 17 year old. She just competed at this national pageant in November. And she was the youngest of the group there. She was competing against these sophomores in college and she's a junior in high school. And we were working on all her, you know, interviews. And I mean, the interview part is the part that Richard and I say if we look back at all the money we've spent on pageant stuff, they'll get every job. And they. Paige has gotten when she interviews, like, oh my gosh, you got the job. So that whole part of it is so amazing. But when you understand that there's no. You don't lose, you only win. So their brain is, is formed that way. And so we don't go to those. We go to those places to go. I wonder what God has planned for us this time.
A
Yeah.
B
I wonder if this is our time. If it's not. I know it's supposed to be. I mean, there's times where Paige didn't win this one. And we thought for sure and. And I said it's for a reason. Well, then she competes at Miss Teen usa, wins. I said if you won that, you wouldn't have been able to win Ms. Teen USA, you know, so it's like they just understand that if it's, if it is their time, nothing. It won't pass you by.
A
Yeah, yeah. So they'll go to something like that. Miss Teen USA is like the big one for the whole usa, Right. Right.
B
When they're little. Yeah. When they're teenagers. Yeah. Then it's Miss usa. They're the same. Yeah.
A
And so how does that work? They have to like go through. Win the state first.
B
Yes.
A
And. Okay, regionals or state. And then going from There.
B
Right.
A
Okay.
B
Nationals.
A
And then. And then what happens after that? Do they get to go somewhere when they win or like, what happens?
B
They just get, you know, just a certain little, you know, they get to go places. They have like sponsors. They get to do modeling contract, you know, little things like that.
A
Gotcha. Gotcha.
B
And it's more for her experience. There's experience of know they're volunteering. They. It's a lot of Vol. It's like community service. Having a platform. Yeah, yeah.
A
And has it opened up doors for them to model or do other things that they want to do? Yeah.
B
Yes.
A
Yeah. What's the. What's their favorite thing that's come from it?
B
Speaking.
A
Yeah.
B
Being on stage. They love speaking. They want to be TEDx talkers.
A
Oh, okay. Do they want to be podcasters?
B
Yeah. Presley wants me to take this room. She said this to me yesterday because she just manifested online school on two weeks ago. Don't know. That was a whole nother story. But she wants. She goes, mom, I want to put a cream couch over here. Take the TV out. And she talked. I said, who are you going to interview? And she started telling me everybody. I'm like, well, let's do it. Tell dad we need to get. Get rid of this couch. We'll put your couch over here.
A
Yeah.
B
So they've done like YouTube videos and have done things for their platform on YouTube and have done little excerpts of their positivity project. And I've always, you know, it's just that part of the pageant stuff has been a. Like a blessing because to understand how important it is to have a community service and to give and to see. We built houses in Mexico. They. It's a con. It's very. It's a big part of it.
A
Yeah.
B
How about.
A
How about as you've aged as a mom, right? Have like. And by the way, I got to tell you this quick story to preface this. So when I was first going on podcast, my mentor told me, get on podcast. You got to get known globally. You're too powerful not to be known globally. And I said, which ones? He said, all of them. And I said, you know who Grant Cardone is by. By chance?
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. So it was Grant. He was telling me, get on all of them. I'm like, all right, great. So I just went on all these podcasts. So I end up on a podcast a couple times where they were talking about menopause and perimenopause, and I had no idea what the hell that was. I was just like, let Me tell you my story. So anyway, I figured out what that was nowadays, of course, but, like, as you've gone through, you know, parenting with this and all this. What I've. And. And I never knew about this stuff really. And, you know, now I look back and realize why my mom was going through some things and all this. But have you looked into what's going on nowadays with how you can get your panels checked? I'm shifting the focus to health now. Health and wellness. Okay, but panels checked and looking at, like, hormones and different levels to. To help you out with energy or different things. Have you gotten any of that yet?
B
Yeah. That's so funny that you asked me this. I'm a peptide girl, okay?
A
That's what I had a feeling. So that's why I brought it up.
B
Oh, really?
A
Yeah, I just had a feeling because, like, it's going on nowadays, and I'm very deep in the biohacking longevity world because a lot of those tapes are clients of ours. And so. Yeah. So what. What. What's like your favorite thing?
B
Oh, you want me to go down that rabbit hole?
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
So my husband, his mom, like, two years ago, started dementia things, right? And he got scared and he's like, trying to search all this stuff. So all of a sudden, he's the Peptide King. My daughter's so funny. So, you know, he's lost all this weight. He's changed his. He does his blood work all the time. And then he introduces me to BPC157GHKC. I mean, I know all, you know, all the different. Google glutathione. I mean, nad. So we have our morning ritual of sitting there doing our shots.
A
Yeah. Dhea. I. I've done.
B
Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
A
I've gotten into all of it.
B
It's. It's changed our life.
A
Yeah.
B
And it's really changed the way we sleep. We just finished this one protocol for 20 days and we wake up. I go, I've never felt so rested in my life. I said, and my dreams are amazing. But that's been probably like two years.
A
So we've only been in it for a year.
B
A little less than two years that we've been doing peptides.
A
Yeah, we've only been in it for about a year, so we're a year behind. But we just went to our doctor yesterday, our guy, and shout out to Craig. My wife and I went together and we both. Both made leaps and bounds. Like, I would always work out so hard and try to do this and that, but Then this just gives you that extra thing that just helps get you over the, you know, the hump.
B
I mean, I used to run like six miles at five in the morning while the kids were sleeping with the dog, like, killing myself.
A
Yeah.
B
And now it's like, do you want to go for a walk?
A
Right.
B
My two golden retrievers. Like, this is so nice.
A
Instead. Yeah.
B
And then I realized, like, why did I do that?
A
Yeah. Well, you know, the other thing? My wife used to always have an extra cup of coffee at like 3 o' clock in the afternoon. Like, she needed that. It was every day. It was like one o', clock. And she's like, you know, I just realized, like, recently I haven't had even any interest in the coffee in the afternoon. I just have, like, plenty of energy. And I was like, yeah. I mean, makes a big difference.
B
So, like, what do you guys. What's your big thing? What, have you seen a difference?
A
I cycle off different things. My wife does, you know, trt. Testosterone in women is so important. People don't understand this. They think it's just for men. And my friend and client out In Beverly Hills, Dr. Jen Berman, talks about this all the time, about how important it is. And I got her on the show one time, we were talking and I got her to talk to my wife. And that got my wife interested, like, oh, there's something that can help with this. And then we found our local guy to take care of it. And she guided her, but she got, you know, they got her the hormones balanced where they're supposed to be. And then, you know, we do BPC157. Same thing. DHEA. I. I've done. I've done enclomiphene, which is for. For men, increases testosterone without having to use TRT. I've used Tessamorelin.
B
Yeah.
A
CJC. I've used MOT CS31.
B
Oh, I love. Yeah, it's so funny. MOT C because we've had to take a break and I'm like, when did we get to do blood C again?
A
Yeah, yeah, it's. It's good. Now, you gotta be careful. Anybody listening here? Do not go and just buy the stuff online. You gotta. This is different protocols for. Based on what your blood work looks like in your panels, because if you just do it yourself, you're gonna mess it up. And so that's the most important thing for people. But they do work for me. I'm not gonna speak for anybody else. And it sounds like you've had a.
B
Great experience with them as well, yeah, I got. In fact, listen to this one, Mike. I do Pilates every day and I've done it since Presley was 2. When I drop off at preschool, there was like next door. So I'm like the OG of this place. The oldest. Probably not the oldest, but in the upper. You know, there's a lot of young girls like Paige. So last two weeks ago, they had this plate challenge and I was like, should we do it? It was after the class and Paige is like, sure, we just have to beat 2 minutes and 14 seconds. I go, okay, we can do that. And remember, I'm telling you and I'm telling everybody, like, these peptides have helped me really have the stamina. My strength is so much stronger. Yes. I do it every day. I probably take one or two days off at the most. So I'm a very routine girl. But oh my gosh, Mike, this lady, you would have thought she may. I would give you an example that she would work at a nail salon.
A
Yeah.
B
And she was the only one left with me. There was like 10 people and they kept dropping. Paige dropped at 4:30, the lady. And she. Paige kept going, mom, don't stop. I go, I'm not stopping. Like you don't know me. Like, I'm not stopping. Like I'm going to win this. So she kept going, mom, she's shaking, she's shaking. And I'm like, I got this. So that lady, I couldn't believe it, goes till 1014, does a plank for 1014. And I'm standing there and I'm. And I have my dog. I have to take the groomer at like in a half an hour. And I'm glass in the back of my head. And I said, paige, okay. She's like, she dropped. I said, okay. So I'm like, okay, 10:30 drop.
A
Wow. And but like on your elbows.
B
Like on my arm, on my hands, our hands. Like a, like on the mega form on my toes. Yeah, okay. But you know, it's like those kind of things. Not that I'm. But it's like, you know, consistency, understanding. There's things out there now, like these peptides that are changing people's lives, making their internal things healthy. Their hair, their skin. I mean, Richard has this thing from his shoulder from throwing the softball and I shoot him with that every day, you know, but it's like, what that's here? You know, why not?
A
Yeah, yeah, I love it. Where can people go deeper with you, Ashley, to learn more?
B
My website or just everything's under my name, Ashley Gonner, Ashleydonner.com or Instagram. All the things awesome. And your podcast, uncover your magic podcast.
A
Recover your magic podcast. Go check it out. Spotify, Apple, all the major podcast platforms. Ashley, thank you so much for joining me today on the what do youo Made Up Show.
B
Oh, thank you so much. So fun.
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Episode: Raising Confidence in a Programmed World: Ashley Gonor’s Blueprint for Parents and Young Leaders
Date: January 26, 2026
Guest: Ashley Gonor (Host, “Uncover Your Magic”)
This episode explores the intersection of personal development, parenting, and the cultivation of confidence and intuition in young people. Ashley Gonor shares her experiences raising her daughters intentionally to break free from societal programming and nurture authentic self-belief, intuition, and resilience. The conversation delves into the importance of mindset, energy, parenting strategies, and also ventures into health optimization and biohacking practices.
Background: Ashley started “Uncover Your Magic” in 2020, inspired by intuition, even while juggling the demands of parenting two young daughters (now 17 and 19).
Parenting Philosophy: Raised her children with teachings from Abraham Hicks, Wayne Dyer, “A Course in Miracles,” and the principle of mind over matter, instilled since her own childhood in a Christian Science environment.
Discipline vs. Rigidity: Ashley describes herself as highly disciplined, which her daughters sometimes perceive as rigid, prompting reflection and growth.
“My daughter was saying, mom, this year you should be less rigid… but that’s a discipline, right?” — Ashley, [02:36]
Intention as a Parent: Ashley’s approach is deeply intentional—to raise her daughters without regrets and to program them with the belief that they “can be, do or have anything.”
Development of Classes: Inspired by parents asking how Ashley’s daughters thrived during the pandemic, she created classes—like "Raising Confidence"—for children and their parents.
The "I Am Agency": A new collaborative venture combining energy work (with a partner who specializes in energy healing) and Ashley’s mindset coaching. They plan to co-write a book involving her daughters’ perspectives.
De-programming & Authentic Living: The agency’s philosophy centers on helping children and parents recognize—and peel away—societal programming to reconnect with their authentic selves.
"It’s nothing you need to discover. You just need to kind of pull the onion layers…to get back to who you truly are." — Ashley, [06:47]
Clients & Community Impact: Works with children aged 5–14 and their parents; has an impact in schools, with athletes, and pageant participants—emphasizing that true confidence is about energy, not outward appearances.
Generational Patterns: Both host and guest discuss how beliefs about limitation and self-worth are unconsciously passed down.
Ashley’s Mission: She actively seeks to “put a stick in the hamster wheel”—to interrupt cycles of limiting beliefs in families.
“Unless you keep…put that spoke and put that stick in that wheel, it’s just going to continue. And I’m so about putting the stick in there and saying, let’s stop and look.” — Ashley, [09:31]
“You humans have no idea what you’re capable of.” — Mike, quoting an ‘alien’ anecdote, [10:42]
Early Career: Managed twists in her own 20s and 30s—buying a spa with a credit card, building from scratch, faking it ‘til she made it, and ultimately selling the business.
Empowering Girls to Take Risks: Encourages her daughters to say ‘yes’ to opportunities and not succumb to perfectionism or fear of failure.
“That’s one of the things I wanted the girls to learn from me is like, it’s not perfect. It doesn’t have to be perfect. You just keep doing it.” — Ashley, [16:49]
Redefining ‘Pageant’: For the Gonor family, pageants are about developing confidence, interviewing skills, and community service, not just beauty.
Mindset on Winning & Losing:
“Everything is always working for you. We lose more than you win…You don’t lose, you only win.” — Ashley, [20:25 & 21:10]
Mechanics of Pageants: Ashley discusses the stages, why participation itself is valuable, and how these experiences build her daughters’ confidence for other pursuits like public speaking and TEDx aspirations.
Navigating Health Changes: Ashley and Mike shift to mid-life health, menopause, and advances in wellness approaches.
Peptides & Biohacking: Both share personal experiences with peptides, hormone optimization, and routines that have enhanced their sleep, energy, and physical resilience.
“It’s changed our life…We just finished this one protocol for 20 days and we wake up…never felt so rested in my life.” — Ashley, [26:33]
Consistency and Strength: Ashley highlights how these changes fueled her daily exercise and stamina—sharing an anecdote about winning a plank challenge at Pilates.
“These peptides have helped me really have the stamina. My strength is so much stronger…Consistency, understanding, there’s things out there now, like these peptides that are changing people’s lives.” — Ashley, [29:57]
| Timestamp | Topic/Segment | |-------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:25–06:00 | Ashley’s background, parenting approach, roots in personal development | | 06:02–10:20 | "I Am Agency", confidence-building programs for youth, overcoming societal programming | | 10:20–12:25 | Human potential, faith, Christianity, breaking cycles of belief | | 12:25–17:51 | Ashley’s entrepreneurial path & lessons for parenting | | 17:51–24:22 | Movement toward mindset & energy awareness, pageant experiences, building authentic confidence | | 24:23–25:29 | Parenting, aging, segue into health and wellness | | 25:29–31:25 | Biohacking, peptides, hormone optimization, routines for vitality | | 31:30–31:49 | Where to find Ashley online and closing remarks |
This episode is a rich conversation about intentional parenting, empowering the next generation to break free from limiting beliefs, and the power of mindset and energy. Ashley’s journey blends wisdom from faith, personal experience, and modern wellness practices, offering a blueprint for parents and young leaders who want to live— and raise children—with confidence and purpose.