Resilience, Reinvention, and Living Unapologetically with Petia Kolibova Burns

Summary

Podcast Summary: "What Are You Made Of?"

Episode: Resilience, Reinvention, and Living Unapologetically with Petia Kolibova Burns

Host: Mike "C-Roc" Ciorrocco
Guest: Petia Kolibova Burns
Date: February 11, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this inspiring episode, Mike "C-Roc" Ciorrocco sits down with Petia Kolibova Burns—a life coach, podcast host of “Unapologetically Abundant,” and entrepreneur. The conversation dives deep into themes of resilience, reinvention, intuition, and the power of living unapologetically. Petia opens up about her journey from a small Czech town to building a thriving life and business in America, overcoming adversity, navigating entrepreneurship, motherhood at 40+, and empowering women to own their stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. What Are You Made Of?—Petia’s Ingredients

• Resilience & Resourcefulness
  Petia shares that her life has been defined by repeatedly bouncing back from adversity and “being resilient and keep going, no matter…”. She recounts her experiences with depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, toxic relationships, and an abusive stepfather, all of which shaped her into who she is today.

  • “All of that made me stronger, but also made me think there is something wrong with me. So I had to really shift perspective.” (03:10)

• Celebrating Difference & Unapologetic Living
  Petia highlights how, despite a childhood of feeling out of place, she now sees her differences as her strength.

  • “It took me literally almost 40 decades to realize that being different, it’s who I came here to be.” (04:27)
  • She relates deeply to the show's theme of living "unapologetically."

2. Early Life and Leaving Home

• Motivation to Leave Czech Republic

  • Petia never felt she belonged, noticing community patterns she found small-minded and unfulfilling.
  • “You’re really living for this? …I knew there must be more. But I couldn’t see then.” (06:16)
  • A rocky relationship led her to move to London, then Spain for four years (08:21), before eventually coming to the U.S. for education.

• Following Intuition—A Pivotal Moment

  • Petia shares a powerful story about narrowly avoiding a train bombing in London due to an uncharacteristic act of listening to her inner voice.
    • “Normally I was very obedient… But that day, I said no. That day on that train, there was a terrorist attack.” (09:19)
    • Her intuition, she emphasizes, has “literally saved my life and not once.” (11:11)

3. Cultural Adjustment and Personal Development in the U.S.

• Culture Shock & Therapy

  • Moving from Spain’s warm, communal vibe to “go, go, go” Las Vegas was a tough adjustment, leading Petia into therapy to process the differences.
    • “It’s not as warm and family friendly. I had such a big cultural shock, Mike, that I started to go to therapy here…” (14:46)

• Discovering Entrepreneurship by Accident

  • After being laid off from her corporate job, she founded a social media marketing agency, thinking entrepreneurship meant grinding endlessly.

    • “…The example of entrepreneurship I had seen was sacrificing your health, sacrificing your family… And that was my first business. I actually did this.” (16:30)

  • Burnout led to an epiphany during a tech-free weekend, revealing the importance of rest and mindset.

    • “I completely freaked out, Mike. But after a walk, I finished everything in a few hours with renewed energy. That’s when I started to realize it might not be just seven days a week working and no breaks.” (17:50)

4. Coaching, Scaling, and Empowering Women

• From Undervaluing to Thriving

  • Petia’s entry into coaching began accidentally—a mastermind organizer wanted to discuss life and habits with her and paid her $100 per session.

    • “That was the biggest challenge, raising my price from 100 to 150. Because I was thinking, nobody will pay that.” (20:41)

  • As her clients saw greater results, prices increased, and her confidence grew.

    • “The more I was charging, the more committed the women were, the better results they were getting.” (21:27)
    • Now charges $2,000/month for coaching.

• Scaling Authentically

  • While she acknowledges the standard pressure to “scale,” Petia prefers depth to breadth—focusing on intimate group programs that match her life stage as a mom.

    • “What truly, deeply fulfills me is the one on one… I want to see her growing up. I don’t want to be grinding here.” (24:14)
    • Her "Soulful Success" group shows women they can succeed without self-sacrifice.

  • “So many people think it has to be hard... But very often for women, if they can just replace what they were doing in their 9 to 5 job, that would be a huge win.” (26:38)

5. Overcoming Fear and Getting Started

• Podcasting Journey
  • Petia’s experience with starting her own podcast, “Unapologetically Abundant,” underscores overcoming self-doubt.
    • “It took me a year and a half to start because I was overthinking… my accent sucks… who would care?” (27:47)
  • Inspired by her husband’s directness, she launched her show and encourages others to “just start.”

6. Motherhood at 40+ and Challenging Conventional Wisdom

• Personal Experience with Loss and Healing

  • Petia candidly discusses losing twins, healing via spiritual and natural practices, and eventually conceiving her healthy daughter.
    • “I got pregnant, like, right away, the next cycle with twins. But I lost that pregnancy… it was really hard.” (31:09)

• Debunking Myths About "Late" Motherhood

  • She credits mindset, choosing informed providers, and questioning outdated medical narratives for her positive experience.
    • “All the things we were told are old beliefs… it got medical, it got as a problem, it got looking for what’s wrong. And I don’t believe that.” (33:00)
    • Recommends the book “The Joy of Late Motherhood” for those exploring pregnancy later in life.
  • “I just believe that all the things we were told are old beliefs… I’m 41 in April, and I’m planning for at least two, three, four, God willing, more.” (34:37)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On resilience and transformation:

  “There was so many times that I could and I really wanted to give up… all of that made me stronger, but also made me think there is something wrong with me.”
  —Petia Kolibova Burns (03:10)

• On intuition:

  “That day, I just didn’t feel like going in a train… that day on that train, there was a terrorist attack… my intuition, listening literally saved my life.”
  —Petia (09:19)

• On undervaluing & raising prices as a coach:

  “That was the biggest challenge, raising my price from 100 to 150… But the more I was charging, the more committed the women were, the better results they were getting.”
  —Petia (21:27)

• On feeling fulfilled:

  “What truly, deeply fulfills me is the one on one… I want to see her growing up. I don’t want to be grinding here.”
  —Petia (24:14)

• On starting despite self-doubt:

  “It took me a year and a half to start because I was overthinking…my accent sucks…who would care?”
  —Petia (27:47)

• On challenging late motherhood stereotypes:

  “All of my conversations now are happening in a park… There was a lady …she was like, ‘I’m 41, I’m too old.’ I was like, girl, I’m 41 in April, and I’m planning for at least two, three, four, God willing, more.”
  —Petia (34:37)

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Important Timestamps

• Petia defines what she’s made of (resilience, inspiration): 02:11 – 05:36
• Leaving Czech Republic, story of intuition saving her life: 06:05 – 11:12
• Arriving in the U.S., culture shock: 14:38 – 15:56
• First business, burnout, discovering coaching: 16:54 – 20:41
• Raising prices, building a coaching practice: 21:27 – 23:59
• Motherhood at 40+, loss, and beliefs about late pregnancy: 30:17 – 34:37

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Tone & Style

The episode is warm, honest, and motivational. Petia is candid about her struggles and dedicated to demystifying and simplifying success for women. Mike creates space for vulnerability, humor, and directness—keeping the conversation authentic and relatable.

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Key Takeaways

• You are stronger and more resilient than you think; your differences are your superpower.
• Listen to your intuition—it could change (or save) your life.
• Real success doesn’t require sacrificing everything; you can define your path and do it unapologetically.
• It’s never too late for new beginnings, whether in business or motherhood.
• Just start—action, not overthinking, is the key to progress.
• Empowerment comes with crystal clarity on who you help and why, and by honoring your worth.

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Transcript

[A]

Every single day I feel artless IO every single day I feel the pleasure. Double out the work. Let's make it extra.

[B]

Pressure.

[A]

Hey, hey, it's your boy C Rock in that one studio on the what do you made of Show. Back with another great guest and great episode for you to share what they're made of, to inspire you and remind you that you're unstoppable to living the life of your dreams. And today we have Petya Kolobova Burns in the virtual studio sharing what she's made of. What's up?

[B]

I am so excited to be here, Mike. Thank you for having me.

[A]

Yeah, man. For those listening and not watching, she has an amazing white hat on. You guys got to check it out. You'll see it in the. The video part of this. Yeah. And I love people that wear hats because, you know, hats are for me. I wear hats all the time now. I have a bald head. Okay. So I don't have to do my hair and worry about that. But I love. I love having, like, different styles and. And so that caught my attention as soon as I. You popped on the screen here.

[B]

So you wear hats off when I'm not around my little one, because there is no way I can keep anything on my head with her or earrings or anything. So it's like my. It's like changing up the Persona, you know, like, I'm not a mommy. I put on the hat, and now I'm a woman. So when I'm not with her, I love to do that. Yeah.

[A]

And you have a podcast. You're a podcast host. It's one of the top globally ranked podcasts out there.

[B]

What's the name of Unapologetically Abundant?

[A]

I love that I. I use the unapologetically word all the time because that one, when I talk about that one, it's about unapologetically stepping into who you are and just being that. Don't worry about if you're different. Don't worry about if you're weird. Lean into it unapologetically. So I love that. And this. This show. How long you been doing?

[B]

Six years.

[A]

Yeah. So I didn't even know what a podcast was six years ago.

[B]

It's amazing. Yeah, I love that.

[A]

Yeah. What? What? Well, before I get into that, what made you started? I want to know, like, what are you made of?

[B]

I love that question so much. It's so thought provoking. And I never, ever, ever in my six years of podcasting was. Was getting ready for a podcast, but for yours. Because thinking about that question, it's. It's really not superficial. It's a question that wants you to sit down with it and really ponder on what am I really made of, right? And the first thing that really came to me was resilience. Like looking back in my life, there was so many times that I could and I really wanted to give up, you know, I'm just a small girl from a very small town with unpronounceable name from Czech Republic. Nobody even knows where it is on the map, you know. And when I'm looking back in my life, what really got me through was resilience, was being resilient and keep going, no matter. And I love that you said it right at the beginning, Mike. Being unapologetic and being who you are even when you're different. Because all my life I was different and I thought something is wrong with me. So I had to become resilient, I had to keep going. And I remember when I used to go through some really tough times in my life. You know, I went through depression, anxiety, suicidal attempts, thoughts, toxic relationship, abusive stepfather, physically, mentally, all of that made me stronger, but also made me think there is something wrong with me. So I had to really shift perspective. And it's funny enough because I'm almost 41 and it took me literally almost 40 decades to realize that being different, it's who I came here to be, that there is no one like me. And being different, it's why I'm actually here. So that's what I'm now made of. It is the resilience, it is the resourcefulness of, but also it's the inspiration. Because when I'm looking back in my life, where I'm coming from, like it doesn't make, it makes no sense, Mike, to be where I am today, to be in loving, loyal marriage. It's the second one I told my husband. Second is the charm. In this case, my second marriage. I have a beautiful, healthy baby girl. I have a multiple six figure online coaching business for females. I have a podcast that it's top two person global, you know, ranking show. And all of these things, like looking back in my past, it doesn't make sense. Like I shouldn't be where I am, but here I am telling others if I can do it, this girl with unpronounceable name, you can do it. Like, why not? And that's why also, I'm really so passionate about being unapologetic. Even though some days I have to give a slap my face, just a virtual one, not Real one to myself too, and awaken into that to be the embodiment of what I'm teaching. Because it's not like you realize it and the rest of your life, it's easy breezy. It's like you realize it and there are new levels and you know it. I know, like as entrepreneur, as podcaster, it's like you go through phases, you go through levels and there comes a day that you think you figure it out and then God, source, universe, it's like, ooh, let me give you a new level. Let's see what you made out of.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, let me, let me, let me see if you're really committed. Yeah, I agree. How old were you when you came from the chat?

[B]

Let's do the math. 26. I left Czech Republic when I was 20, 21. I moved to London. There I lived few months, then I left four years in Spain and then I came here to Las Vegas on international scholarship. Did my college, did my bachelor's, did my mba, and here I am.

[A]

Why did you leave the country originally?

[B]

I never felt like I belong, Mike. I always felt that there must be more to life because when I looked around me, it felt meaningless and I couldn't point it out. Like when you're in it, you cannot see it clearly. But I could feel it because where I look, people were living for weekends, they were drinking, you know, every night after work. There were people cheating on each other and comparing each other with, you know, like neighbors who a bigger car, who has a bigger house, who has a prettier kids, like whatever. But it was, it felt to me like very small minded. I'm like, you're really living for this. You go to school, you find a partner, you get married, you're drinking every day, you're living for a weekend, you're living for once a year escape vacation that you will be talking about the whole year before you go to another vacation. You have two and a half kids and that's it. I knew there must be more, but I couldn't see then. So back then, when I was around 20, I had a boyfriend and we got kind of on a rocks, you know, like cheated on me and, and I was like crazy in love with him. So I'm like, well, let's give it a chance but let's change environment. I'm like, why not going somewhere out of the country. So I financed the trip to London. I had, you know, pick up all my savings, finance a trip for both of us to London. And it's funny because it seemed like back there, I could see his true colors. It wasn't the perfect man I fall into, you know, it, like, I could see, like, he didn't want to work. Like, I would take any job, you know, because, like, we got there, we didn't have papers yet, and I would take any job just to pay the bills. And it was like, I'm not going to work for $4 an hour. And I'm like, so I can, but you cannot. So, you know, it's like, there began my, like, awakening of, like, what do I want for myself? And so we broke up and I met someone else and we went for vacation to Spain just, you know, for summer. That summer lasted four years. Yeah. So I just feel.

[A]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. So you meet someone else and you started dating that person. You didn't go to Spain right away?

[B]

We dated, like, just a couple months. And he was like, hey, let's go for a vacation for summer.

[A]

Wait, no, no, no. Wait a minute, wait a minute. No, but, like, I'm saying, you didn't meet him and then just go to Spain. You dated for a little bit first, right?

[B]

A couple months, maybe. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, really? And then. And then he's like, hey, let's go to Spain. And then you're like, okay, okay, all right. Spontaneous. You know, let's.

[B]

Adventurous. Yes. That sounds better than crazy. Like, now looking back, I have a daughter now, you know, she's 16 months. And now looking back, if she would have done the things that I did. Oh, my gosh. Like, yeah, it's different when you're a parent. You see the crazy things we've done.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So you go to Spain for a trip and then, like, what about all your stuff? Did you have any stuff back in the uk?

[B]

I did, but honestly, it was just, like, couple suitcases. So we just did that. But crazy story that I wanna. I wanna share because I feel like it's really important. When I was back in London, that's when I started to kind of listen to my inner voice and my intuition, like, when something was pulling me and stuff. And the day that we were. We packed everything, we decided, you know, my new boyfriend now will go to Spain. And he was like, let's. Let's just take a train. Let's take a subway. It's going to be cheaper, you know, like, than taking a taxi to the airport. And I'm like, let's just figure it out and let's take a taxi. I don't feel like going in a Train and we didn't have that many luggages. We had like maybe two big suitcases and a couple small ones, so it wouldn't be terrible. But that day I just didn't feel like going in a train for some reason. And normally back then, couple decades ago, like ago, it was very obedient. I was the good girl, the people pleaser. But that day I said, no, let's not go. That day on that train, there was a terrorist attack. It was a bomb that exploded in the train.

[A]

Yeah, I remember.

[B]

And it was crazy for me because we got to the airport and we find out and I got like whole body chills. I'm like, I was supposed to be in the train. So they were like just slight signs Again, Source, universe, whatever you want to believe. God of listening, of whispering. And I think that my whole life was like that. I get impatient, I want to move quickly, but there is this stillness that precedes a big things. And it's about listening. It's not about pushing, it's not about forcing. And I have a problem with that because I want to just go, go. And I'm learning to listen because I know the listening literally saved my life and not once.

[A]

Yeah, that's amazing. So then you're in Spain and you say, what made you stay? Like, oh, we love it here.

[B]

Well, I. It's funny, I live in the middle of the dessert. I told you, I'm in Las Vegas. But I love ocean. I love water. I feel like a little mermaid. So when we got there and you know, we first year, when we got there with my ex boyfriend, we went to Sevilla and I think I fell in love with the people and the culture. I fell in love with people.

[A]

I've heard that in Spain. I've heard about that.

[B]

It's like people, people sitting with the neighbors in. In front porches and talking. And you just go to the bus station and talking. And I'm not saying that everybody's friendly, let's be honest. But it felt more like family. It felt slower and it felt really good. So he just got a job and I was helping him. He was a chef, so I was helping him in a kitchen and he was like, hey, we got another offer to work for like, you know, a couple months on the restaurant, on the beach. Everything is paid for. Do you want to come? I'm like, why not? Like, where would I go with what I do, right? Like, we are there, we have offer of a job. So I went and like I said it, it. It just kept being like this and this thing and you know, then we broke up. But life, I, I feel like I just listen to where to stay.

[A]

Yeah. And then four years goes by and then how did you decide to leave? What happened then?

[B]

I don't know. It's just crazy again, like I, I never planned for any of this happening. But back then I was living in Marbella. I was working in as a bookkeeper in exchange office. And this was 2009 when everything started to crumble and I was working just like four hours a day. And you know, I was kind of bored. So I was connecting with like old friends and family and stuff like that because I had so much time on my hands. And I connected with our family friend who was from Minnesota who told me that they're doing with his family international student exchange program, if I want to join. Because he was like, education, it's something that nobody can ever like take away from you. And he was like, would you like to come and try to test here at the college to see if you know if you get a good score, if you apply, if you qualify, we would pay for your stay. I'm like, okay, nothing to lose, right? Like back then I was single, I had a little dog and I'm like, why not? So I went, I scored really high, I got accepted to the school, I packed my stuff and moved to the United States.

[A]

And that was. And you, did you go to Vegas for that or Minnesota?

[B]

Oh, so school was in Vegas, Nevada? Yes.

[A]

Okay. Okay, gotcha. So that's how you like, how did you pick Vegas though?

[B]

Yes, our family friend, they were in Minnesota, but he got a job here in Las Vegas as, for a non profit organization. And he's like, well, if you, if you want to like go to school here, you can work part time for me and help me as a marketing research analyst. Because I did, you know, marketing and economy back in, in Europe. I'm like, okay, so again, and what.

[A]

Was it, what was the adjustment like coming to the United States?

[B]

It was really hard. Like, imagine living. I literally had an apartment on the beach. Like, I walked the stairs down and there was a grass and a beach. And now listen, Spain, it's all about eating and drinking, smoking and siestas and dancing. And now I come to Las Vegas and it's like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. You know, and it's people saying they will do something and they didn't. Don't show up. It's, it's not as warm and family friendly. I had such a big cultural Shock, Mike, that I started to go to therapy here because I didn't know how to deal with it. I didn't know what to think of people. And the first couple years were really hard for me because I took everything personally. Like, you know, I meet people in a school and I think we are friends. And then they never talk to me back because they just changed class, so now they're busy. I'm like, what do you mean? I have friends since I was born. You know, it's. What do you mean? We're not friends anymore. So.

[A]

Yeah, that's weird.

[B]

It was hard.

[A]

Yeah. So you go to therapy and then you start asking, you know, you get asked questions, you start analyzing some things, you started feeling better, and then I guess you started to understand how it works here.

[B]

Yeah. Yes, I feel like that, you know, like, I just, I. I started to like adjusting and. And I started to take care of myself a little bit more. I started, like, working out, you know, Then I got my first job and I got like approval to work here, like work permit. And ever since, you know, I work five years in a corporate. And then I got fired. So I started my first own business. Again, I didn't plan for it. I never wanted to be entrepreneur, Mike. Never. If you would have tell me, I would think you're crazy, because the example of entrepreneurship that I have seen was sacrificing your health, sacrificing your family, working seven days a week, never having time off. I'm like, why would I do that? And that was my first business. I actually did this, like, what? I thought it's entrepreneurship. That's what I did. Like, it was hard all in.

[A]

Grinding.

[B]

Yeah, it was social media marketing agency. So I was always online. Always online, always with the clients, sleeping with my phone, waking up with my laptop. No life. It was. It was a lot.

[A]

And. And were you single at that time when you started?

[B]

No, I did have a partner and he was kind of telling me I'm crazy, but he was also like, investor, entrepreneur. So he was like, okay, if you gotta do it at the beginning, I get it. But I feel that if I would be dating someone who is not entrepreneur, they wouldn't get it. Yeah, it was. It was a lot.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. How. Well, how long ago was that? What year was that?

[B]

Oh, that was almost a decade ago.

[A]

Okay, so you work in this business. Ten years ago you were at social media marketing, working all kinds of hours and all that. And then did you come to a point where you were just like, what am I doing?

[B]

And Burnout or kinda. But again, I wasn't listening. I was so deep in a hustle and a grind, I wasn't listening. So I think it was like seven years ago, seven or eight years ago, when I had my first business and I was always working. And one weekend we went to. He had a cabin and a woods and we went there. There is a. There's no reception, but there is an Internet. So I'm like, okay, I'll just work on my papers for school. I will work for my client stuff. And we get there and the Internet wasn't working and I had a breakdown. I completely freaked out, Mike. I was like, oh my gosh, what am I going to do? I won't be able to work on my papers. My clients will fire me because I won't respond. Within five minutes I had a major panic attack. But back then I'm like, well, there's really nothing I can do. Grabbed my dog, went for a walk. We were like out and around, maybe for an hour. Came back and Internet is working. I was able to finish everything within just few hours. What I thought it will take me days. I had renewed energy. I felt fresher. I'm like, wow. I was amazed. So that's when I started to realize it might not be just seven days a week working and no breaks and just hustling and working hard. And I also realized that what was helping me through was a mindset. It wasn't just the work, it wasn't just a strategy, it wasn't just techniques to do. It was my mindset. And the same with my clients. When I did the work for them, sometimes they just disconnected. Disconnected from their purpose, disconnected from their business because somebody else is taking care of everything, right? But when I started to teach them how to do it and work on their mindset and work on their beliefs. Because as I was growing and learning all these these things, I was applying it on my clients and suddenly they had a great results. They were doing better financially, they were doing better in their relationship. And I started to attending networking events, masterminds. And that's where I met my first life coaching client. Just a woman who was organizing the mastermind. She was helping there. She came to me, she was like, p, you have such a great energy. Do you take clients? Me back then I'm like, what are you talking about? What energy?

[A]

Right?

[B]

What clients? You know, like I had social media, but I knew she's not talking about social media. She was like, I would just like want to meet with you and talk to you and, like, see how you're doing things. I'm like, okay. She was like, how much you were charging, Mike? No clue. No idea. I'm like, all right. And me in my head, I'm like, I was still, like, working, doing my business, but I was still doing a little bit, you know, like a little job. So I was like, well, when I was in corporate, I was doing, like, 30 an hour. So this has to be, like, a lot more. So it has to be worth it. Like, okay, it's a hundred dollars a session. She was like, okay. So we meet at a coffee shop. She gives me a hundred dollars cash. We talk about life, about my habits, about her beliefs, how to do things differently, start reading books. And I quickly realized that the hundred dollars wasn't enough for three. It was perfect start. But I was preparing before session, taking notes during session. I had to drive to the place. Then, you know, like, she was asking me questions afterwards. Like, this is more than an hour. So I started raising, and I went from, like, a hundred to 150. And listen, that was the biggest challenge, raising my price from 100 to 150. Because I was thinking, nobody will pay that. I was thinking, this is too much money. That, like, I will lose all my clients. But the more I was charging, the more committed the women were, the better results they were getting. And recently, I was just charging $2,000 for one call a month. Of course, there is also, like, unlimited telegram, coaching included. But the girl who was charging $100 a session, who had no idea, into a woman, mother and wife, who is charging $2,000 a month. And my clients building multiple five figure months. I'm like, it's such a huge difference. But it didn't happen overnight. We're talking a decade. You know, in seven years, that I was growing and evolving and becoming mother shifted me a lot too. I'm pivoting how I do things and how I'm showing up. Even when people ask me to go on a podcast, they're like, it's an hour. I'm like, I don't have an hour. Yeah, unless you're Oprah, Tony Robbins, I don't have an hour. Well, you.

[A]

You came on my show.

[B]

I'm so grateful because I love what you stand for. Thank you.

[A]

That. For the record, I didn't pay her anything. For the record, My. I'm paying my attention. But no, it's awesome. I mean, I. I feel great to be in that. That Tony Robbins and Oprah realm. Thank you, but no. So, yeah, 100% and when you start to raise your prices, you, you get shocked. You're, you're like, wow, this works. And, and now I'm, now I'm not resenting the clients. It's the energy because there's a resentment that builds up when you under charge.

[B]

And, and it, it has to feel fair. You know, it has to feel like, not like let's charge, whatever, because I know there are people who do that. Right. But it has to feel a little bit stretchy for you. But it has to also feel stretchy for your clients. And really amazing because I believe that the people who hire me and I mainly work with women. I had, you know, a couple male clients. It's not like if a male comes to me and you know, he wants to help. I'm not like, oh, wrong gender. I had a couple male clients that I was supporting. But my passion, it's really to supporting women because I feel like for so many years we were people pleasing and apologetic and playing it small. And I feel like it's time that we realize that we can take up the space without feeling guilty.

[A]

Yeah. And, and so you got into one on one coaching and then have you ever hit the point now where it's like, he, one on one is kind of tough. I want to scale, but I can't scale one on one. Like, where are you?

[B]

I love that question because I feel like I am there, like now that my daughter was born, because what truly, deeply fulfills me is the one on one. And it's funny, my husband, he's entrepreneur too, and he's in, in sales, but he's always the Tony Robbins big scale thinking. I have never thought about that, like this big. For me, it's not driving force to like impact millions. If I do that by being me, I am grateful. But I don't see myself like where I am right now in a season of motherhood because I want more babies to be like doing big and scaling big. What I did though, last year in October actually, I started a group coaching program that it's six months called Soulful Success because I was done and tired of all the hard work and hustling and thinking that you have to like just grind it out. I'm like, well, let me show you a better way. I am a master in simplifying things. It's just my gift. Like, I look at people and I know what their gifts are and I know how they can monetize it and I know how can they simplify it? Because I like when I was Single. It was different, Mike. I had like hours on hours. Now I have a little baby and even though, you know, my husband can help, nanny can help, I want to see her growing up. I don't want to be grinding here.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

So my scaling is doing my six months coaching program for women, soulful success. So they realize they can create success without their hustle, without sacrificing their family while still monetizing their gifts. Because so many people think it has to be hard. Funny enough, yesterday I was in a park with my daughter, talking with a woman there, another mama Bulgarian. And she was saying like, oh, like you're here often. Don't you go to work? I'm like, no, I own my business. She was like, what do you do? So we get talking and she was like, you know, it was always my dream to have my business, but it's so hard, I don't know where to start. I'm like, just open a business account. Just start LLC or whatever corporation you want to do. Hire an accountant. And you don't even have to do it at the beginning because most likely, I mean, you are not going to be like overwhelmed. Like just do quick books right at the beginning. Know who you exactly want to be working with. Because at the beginning of my journey, I was trying to work with everyone and it really didn't work.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I had to get really crystal clear on who I want to be working with and why. And then start focus on one platform, whether it's podcast, whether it's Instagram, choose what comes to you easily and naturally and that's it. And she was like, well, you're saying, like it's that easy. I'm like, well, I've been doing it for a decade, so yes, it seems easier to me. Yes, I help women to start their own businesses and we overthink, we over complicate, we self sabotage. It doesn't have to be that hard. I'm not telling you we'll make millions. Even though, like I did, you know, six figures with the within first nine months of my business. But very often for women, if they can just replace what they were doing in their 9 to 5 job, that would be a huge win and victory. And then you can be growing.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, you just have to start. You just have to start. It's so important. Like podcast. If you want to start a podcast, some people just stay put and they don't do anything and they're paralyzed. And then you just got, you just got to get on Zoom and just start Recording yourself. You don't. You don't even have to release it. Just start recording.

[B]

Honestly, Mike, it took me a year and a half to start because I was overthinking, because I was thinking, who would want to listen to me? My accent sucks. People won't understand. Who would care? What would I even talk about? Nobody would come to my show because I'm so, you know, like, so little. And then I met my husband, you know, in a mastermind, and he was a podcaster. And I told him, like, oh, one day, and was like, one day, it's another day in a calendar. He was like, when do you want to start? And he's like, you know, masculine. Like, when do you want to start? Let's put it on your calendar. Let's start and we can have later. Mike, I had a podcast.

[A]

And so when you started your podcast, did you solo episode it, or did you get guests?

[B]

I did that work. I did solo episodes because I liked Quickies and shorts. And that's what I do. Up until now. I do, like, five to 15 minutes every Friday solos. But then I also do interviews. But then when I was starting, I was doing, like, friends and people who I met, the networking events and business owners. And then I kept growing. And the thing I want to share, whether you're starting podcasts, whether you're starting business, just ask. I was afraid that the beginning to ask bigger guests to come. But most people will be flattered. Most people, like. Of course, some people might not respond because they don't even see it because they have big accounts. But even when I was starting, like, my show, I had it for a few months, and I got people on that I used to follow for years. People I was admiring, reading their books, listening to their podcast videos. I asked and they came, and they had, like, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. Some of them, they even have millions of followers. And they said yes because I asked, and I didn't take no for, like, personally. I'm like, well, they're busy, or that's not their priority. But it has nothing to do with me, really. And that kept me going.

[A]

You know what I did, too? When people said no to me, I was like, oh, you're gonna want to be on my show one day.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And it just, like, fueled me. I'm like, ah, all right, you'll see, and. And you'll be begging, and I might not take you. I didn't tell him that, but I just thought about that, you know, all right, I want to wind down here because we're up against the clock. I want to know about your pregnancy because you said you're 40.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So how was that being in that, like, high risk area? Like what, how you're saying you want.

[B]

To wrap up and this is a topic I can talk about for, like, three hours, man. Okay, I will make it really short. So I. When we decided with my husband to get pregnant, I think I was around 36, 37. He's seven years younger, so he was like, well, no rush. I'm like, look at you.

[A]

Look at you getting to go in a younger man.

[B]

And we started to work with fertility doctor. Not because we had any challenges, but she was spiritual. We did, like, mushroom ceremonies. We did ayahuasca. We did, you know, like, a lot of things. So she was very supportive. We did a lot of tests, a lot of detoxing. We just want to prepare our bodies when we chose to get pregnant. I got pregnant, like, right away, the next cycle with twins. But I lost that pregnancy a couple months in, and I was really depressed. That was like, the hardest thing I experienced because we were excited to be pregnant. It was really hard.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And I didn't even know I was pregnant with twins. I lost one baby in July and another one in September. So it was really hard because when I started to finally, like, recovering, I still felt like something is off. But I worked with, like, midwives and doulas and not like traditional doctors. And when I went to doctor, they're like, oh, we'll just like, you know, take everything. I was like, nope, I trust my body. So that was September, and in November, I got pregnant with our healthy baby girl. And it's funny because it's like, my husband, he gets me on the things that I would never believe. He loves documentaries. He loves educating himself, watching videos. He made me a vegan, and he wasn't even vegan. He just showed me a couple documentaries. I'm like, I cannot do this anymore. I just can't, you know. So I'm vegan now for six years. He's vegan. Not by choice, but, you know, by proximity.

[A]

Yeah, because you cook.

[B]

Because that's the whole thing that we cook. And it was like, well, whatever will make me healthy. And so I became vegan. And then when we started to plan family, he was like, well, we'll. Somebody ask us like, so what are you planning for birth? And my husband, he's like, yeah, we'll do home birth. I'm like, you insane? I'm not going to do that. That's Dangerous. I want to make sure I'm protected. He shows me some documentaries. I'm like, we're doing home birth. We're doing midwife, we are doing doula. I read a book, and for anyone who is listening, who is like, in like, quote unquote, high risk, there is a book, and I don't know who wrote it, but you can just ask Uncle Google. The Joy of Late Motherhood. It's fantastic book about women who conceived naturally. Later, after 40. I was not even 40, but after 40. And I just believe that all the things we were told are old beliefs. Like, even when you read this book like this, like, you shouldn't be getting pregnant after 35. That was like in 18, 19th century, when the lifespan was so much shorter and it was done by obstetricians, which they didn't want you to do things naturally. They wanted you to come to hospital. They ban all the herbologists, all of the midwives. All of that was like bad and evil and some, like, somehow birth and pregnancy got control. It got medical, it got as a problem. It got looking for what's wrong. And I don't believe that I was. Listen. All of my conversations now are happening in a park mic. There was a lady who looked at Sophia, our daughter. It's the cutest thing ever. We don't put her, you know, on. On social media or anything, but she's like, blonde, the bluest eyes you can imagine, dazzling smile, you know, mouthful of little thieves. It's the cutest thing. There was a lady who was like, oh, my gosh, she's so cute. It makes me want to have another one. She has two. I'm like, like, why don't you? She was like, I am too old. I'm like, how old are you? She didn't look that old to me. She's like, I am. What did she say if she. I don't know if she's. Yeah, 41. She's like, I'm 41. I'm too old. I was like, girl, I'm 41 in April, and I'm planning for at least two, three, four, God willing, more. My husband wants five or seven. I'm like seven. I'm not sure. He was like, as many as God wants to give us. I'm like, as long as they're healthy, I'm open. I'm willing. I just. Just. Mike, it's such a miracle. And I was never a motherly type. Never. I loved puppies, but kids. I was like, you can keep that.

[A]

That's because it was other people's kids. Like, it's wild how sometimes, like, other people's kids can annoy you, but you're actually cool. I shouldn't have said that. That's not.

[B]

No, mine is annoying, too, sometimes. And she's teething now with the back mother. So I'm like, oh, my gosh, I need a break. Let's talk to Mike. I will take a break.

[A]

Well, let me let you get back to your daughter. Thank you so much, Petia, for coming on the show today. I appreciate you sharing and being so vulnerable. And I, I really enjoyed.

[B]

Thank you so much for having me. This was fantastic.

[A]

All right, hang tight while I wrap this up, folks. Thank you so much for being here on the what do you made of show with your boy C Rock and Petia Kolebova Burns. She was here sharing what she's made of. I hope you like the show and keep coming back. Make sure you subscribe, tell your friends, family, co workers about the show, and go to petyakolobova.com check her out out. Also on Instagram, Petia Kolabova. And until next time, be that one.