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Welcome back to the Woody Made of podcast. Your boy C. Rock, here I'm with Myrna Young. She's going to share what she's made of today. Myrna, welcome to the show.
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Well, thank you for being here, C. Rock, Mike, whoever, what you want to be called, I don't care, just don't
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call me late for dinner. So I tell my wife all the time, unless I'm cooking and I gotta call her late for dinner. So listen, we. We start the show the same way every time, and that's with the question, what are you made of?
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Yeah, well, you know, I. I am a spiritual being having a human experience. So I believe that I'm made up of energy and I'm made up of, you know, spirituality. And, and this body that I see is, is, Is an illusion. So I spend a lot of time focusing on my energy, my energetic body. So, so that's what I think that I'm.
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Well, well, since you said that, like, can you tell me in the difference in the audience as well, like, what's the difference between living in, you know, as a spiritual being in a, you know, human experience in the body versus the opposite of that?
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Right. Well, yeah. So if you were, if you're a. A spiritual being, you recognize that your thoughts influence your biology, right? So you try to stay in energy because, you know, it's, it's, it's really, it's really interesting. And I'll give you an example of a story. A couple weeks ago, I was at the gym and I'm doing my elliptical machine. And all of a sudden my Fitbit here tells me that slow your row. You know, you are, you are. You know, your heart rate is, like, elevated. And I looked at it and it says 160. And I wasn't doing much on the elliptical, but the thought in my mind immediately, are you having a heart attack? Because you're not doing much right? And that one second of thought, it was immediately replaced by, I'm not having a heart attack. I'm fit, I'm whatever. This thing is wrong, it's picking up some kind of signal. But that one minute of second, not even one minute, one second of that thought, my body started to get hot. So that is what a spiritual being is. That every thought that you have influences your biology. And if you were to look at your body under a microscope, and I'm no scientist, but I've spent a lot of money, a lot of time on this, if you look at your body under a microscope, all you're going to see Is, you know, cells and atoms, you know, this is, this is just an illusion. So, yeah, that's what I mean.
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And what's the opposite of that? Living like, like living like the opposite of that?
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Well, the opposite of that is. Is believing that what you see is, is real and that this physical body that you have that you, you know, it's gonna wear out. You know what I mean? And, yeah, it's gonna wear out. Basically. I don't spend too much time on the, on the physical part of it because I spend a lot of time on my energetic body. But, yeah, if you were, you know, thinking all the, you know, into the physical all the time, then, yes, you're.
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You know, I think that, I think what I'm hearing from you is, is that you have less control when you live in the physical body as a physical body versus being a spiritual being.
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Yes.
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Right. You're more the puppet than the puppet. Puppeteer.
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Right, right.
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And who wants to be a puppet? Not me.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Okay.
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And you're going to wear out. One of the beautiful things about being a spiritual being. You know, I know that you're a Christian. I see your, your, your, your cross, and I've listened to your interviews. Like, I can go on with this statement is that, you know, when you're, if you're a spiritual being, you realize that, you know, you have eternal life. Right. And when this body dies, then your spirit lives on. It's all part of the same kind of concept.
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Yeah. Yeah. I love it. So what's your story? Where did it all start for you? I know you came from Guyana, right?
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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And, and what, what? Like, how old were you when you moved from Guyana?
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17. I was very young, but I didn't come directly to the United States. I went via Canada, Toronto, and then I came to the United States when I was 40. I'm now in my 60s, so. So let me tell you the story. You know, I was in Toronto doing sales. I've always done sales. When I got out of college, I was selling computers and that kind of thing. I figured that, you know, that was the best place for me to make money. I mean, I listened to your story, and I know you're, you know, doing real estate. So sales. A sales job is one of the places that you can make the most money. At least that's what my belief was. So I went into sales and we got an invite to go to a free conference for Tony Robbins. Yes, Tony Robbins is in my story. This was in 1992. So you know, he was just starting. So when he came places, he would give away free tickets so that he can, you know, build up. And I went to that, that conference it was unleashing, and I came out of that three day conference a new person. I came out being an entrepreneur. I came out, you know, understanding the power within. I was sold out for that. So I'm the type of person that when I get something, I do it right away. I'm not one of these people that sits on it. A month later, I started my limousine service and I went on to become, you know, one of the top female limousine operators in Toronto, winning entrepreneur of the year and all that. But during that time, I would come every year to Las Vegas for the limousine convention and I would see all these rich people, you know, with hundreds of limousines, and I said, this is where I need to be. So in 2000, I packed up my limousine and drove to Miami and said, I'm going to, you know, become international, and got to Miami, realized right away that the limousine business was not happening in Miami. And then I had this fair. You're going to end up in one of those lakes driving around in the middle of the night with people in the back of your car, you know. So anyway, I went back into sales and then one day, out of the blue, I was reading the newspaper. Can you believe that? I never read the newspaper, but I opened this newspaper and. And I saw what came to my attention was a girl from my church. And it said on the bottom of it that she was a life coach. And again, just like the Tony Robbins thing, I knew right away that this is what I needed to be. I think you're always telling people what to do. This is life coach. And I called her up and I said, what's a life coach? Tell me what a life coach is. And she sat me down and she told me I bought her lunch and. And she sat me down and told me what a life coach is and all that. A month later, I was signed up at the University of Miami, getting my coaching certification. And when I came out of coaching, I. Somebody invited me, which is, I told you, I haven't been on a podcast for years, but this is how I started. Someone invited me to come on their radio show. The podcast is what happening back then. They invited me to come on their radio show because I was a life coach and she was looking for guests. I went on the radio show and the radio offered me a show. I'm still in that radio show. WTGY 99.1 FM in Atlanta. So I'm still in that radio show. And, you know, been on a radio show for a couple years, and then I heard someone say, if you got a radio show, convert it to a podcast. So that's how I started. So, yeah, that's my journey.
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Well, all right. I gotta pick apart. Not pick apart. Pick some of these things to talk about. So the Tony. Well, first of all, what was Guyana like? Because you had a lot of experience there. You 17 before you left. What was it like there?
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Well, Guyana is a third world country, and my family was very poor. Both my mom and my grandmother were domestic servants. But my story starts with the fact that my godfather, who is very wealthy and a pedophile, you know, abused me. So, again, I had to get over that. And I, you know, I wrote a book about it, you know, out of the Snares. This is my book, which is my life story. But, yeah, so. So, yeah, that's what Gan was like. I mean, what that experience translates into. Who I am today is. Is almost buried. You know, I never took any of the negative parts of that. I took the positives from it and just was a person that kept growing, because that's what I did. I kept growing and expanding and, you know, moving up in my life. Right.
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And so then when you go to this Tony Robbins thing, what was the game changer that you picked up from there that really fired you up?
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Yeah, well, he talked about the power within. Right. And, you know, it was such a long time ago, but I remembered coming out of there believing in myself, believing that I have the power, you know, I have the power to become an entrepreneur. I have the power to excel in life. I have the power to go places. And I didn't know where the entrepreneurial part was, so I got out of there thinking, I need to start my own business. I don't need to be working for someone and being a salesperson. You know, I. And I heard. I think I heard you say that. No, no. One of your guests that you're interviewing, he was talking about how he built his online following. He said he didn't know how to. What he needed to do is he read a book. And that's exactly what I did. I remember the name of the book. It's called 101 Entrepreneurial Ideas. So I went through that book, and I picked out a business.
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Wow. Okay.
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I went on to the limousine service because, you know, you can. You can leverage the money to buy a limousine. All you need was, you know, $10,000 down or something. And then you can get $100,000 car and the bank will lend you the money. And. And it was, it was, you know, luxurious, all the things that I liked. So that's how I picked it.
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Gotcha. And then when you were like doing well in Toronto with that, did you just have one car? Did you start getting at.
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I had seven cars. I call that fleet. It's not as big as a fleet.
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You know, seven cars. And then why didn't it work in Miami? Like, why was Miami not a good
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spot for the thing in Toronto? I made a lot of money from weddings. All day weddings and going out at night where people would rent the, you know, rent a limousine and they would go out at night and you have the car all night. Or, you know, since I was in Toronto, we would get runs to Buffalo for the football game and all that. I come to Miami then. Weren't renting cars for weddings.
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Right, right.
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I did, I had the nighttime work. Right. But that was very scary, you know, Woman. And I only brought one car to Miami. I didn't bring seven. I brought one. And you were driving to Miami? Yeah, I was a driver. Yeah, I was driving it.
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Okay.
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When I had, I was always a driver, but when I had seven cars, then I, I hired people, but I was always driving.
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And when you were in Toronto, did you have, like, celebrities using your service too, and athletes?
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I was doing well, yeah. I had, I had a lot of celebrities. We, I got jobs for the film festival. So one year we had the, the, you know, the, the, the cast of Botha, which had, I mean, I don't remember their names now, but was it Samuel Jackson in that one? Alfie Woodard was one of those, the people in the car. I, I had a lot of celebrities, not only from the, not only from the film festival that we did every year, but, but a lot of celebrities would come in and want to be picked up from the airport because I did a lot of airport, so I have a lot of celebrities. And one year. Yes, one year I was a personal driver for when he was doing the Phantom of the Opera, Stanley, what's his name from Kiss.
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Okay. Yeah.
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Right. So, yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was a good business.
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That's cool. All right. And then, and so then you get this radio thing. And then were you, when you got the radio show, were you already coaching people at that time or were you getting into it?
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Yeah, I mean, that's basically what happened. I, I became a coach. So when she invited me, this lady Invited me on her radio show. It was. It was based on the coaching label.
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So.
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Yes, So I was coaching.
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Okay.
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Wasn't. Wasn't long into coaching, probably about a year into it. But yeah, I was. I was a coach.
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Okay. And then you get on this radio show and. And were you taking calls or what did you, like, how did you figure out what to talk about?
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I never did live calls. It was just this kind of thing, you know, interview style. Interview style radio. Right. It's the same as. Same exact thing as the podcast, but.
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Okay, so you had guests and stuff. Did you do solo episodes, too?
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No, I only started doing solo episodes recently.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, you know, I learn. I learn from, like, again, I'm a learner. And I looked at some of the. Some of the big names out there, and I noticed they were doing. They were padding their numbers by doing five minute segments during the week. And that's where I started the solo episodes from. Right. You know? Yeah. Because every time you upload an episode, you get more downloads, you get more lists.
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Yeah.
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So that's when I started doing that. Yeah.
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Yeah. You know what I did? I started out, like, when you first start out, you think you got to do an episode a week. And then I was like, seeing all these amazing guests that I could have on, and I started just recording like crazy, putting them all in the can. And then my team was like, hey, you know, we got two years worth of one podcast. And I'm like, oh, geez. And then we had people reaching out, like, is my episode going to be released soon? I'm like, oh, I don't know what the heck I'm doing here. So then we just started releasing them two times a week, three times a week to catch up. And then eventually I was like, well, if there's this many amazing people, I might as well do as many episodes as I want to every week. So we started doing 10 to 15 a week.
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Oh, my gosh. I can do that.
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Well, I mean, it's just, you know, it's what we do now. And I have so many amazing friends now from it. Like, my network is ridiculous, so why not build a network from it? So, yeah, and I love doing them anyway, you know, meeting cool people and hearing their stories. So how did you figure out the business? You know, you had an entrepreneurial mind, but, like, how did you figure out the business side of coaching and what to charge and how to set it up and, like, did you just try something and figure it out or.
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Well, again, you've got to look and see who's come before you and what it is that they're doing. So, yeah, one of the. One of the things about coaches in general, I mean, it's.
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It's.
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It's. You know, it's changed a little bit over the years, but when I first started, which is in like, 10 years ago, you know, people felt badly charging. I did so many free coaching. But then when I, you know, when I coached somebody, you know, I would charge them like, $500 or something. Coaching now is like 20,000. But. Yeah, that's what I. You know, that's what you did. But you always felt badly, you know, charging people. You know, I don't know. It's a. It's a personality thing, and I've seen it. A lot of coaches say they. They feel badly charging. It's. It's. I don't know. Because a coach wants to help people. Right? At least. You know, I was just on one of the people that I admire, and I consider him a mentor because I follow him and I listen to everything he's. And I went on his challenge, and he was selling something for $27,000. And I'm pretty sure he has no cons about it.
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Yeah, no, not at all. Not at all. You know, but here's the thing.
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Like, when I was coaching and I charged him 500 bucks, I'm thinking that's a lot of money, right?
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Yeah. But you know what? I've had people before when I was doing that stuff and I wasn't charging off, and they were like, yeah, I'm looking for somebody that's better. And I'm like, what do you mean it's better?
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True.
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It was the money. They thought I was just too cheap.
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Yes. Yes. You know, I would say the name Myron Golden. He gets on there and he talks about the fact that he charges. What? He said he charges what, $375,000 for his VIP. And people go for that because they think if he's charging 375, it must be good.
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Yeah, yeah. Myron's great, though.
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It's a mindset.
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He is. He. I can listen to him all day. I really like him. There was an app called Clubhouse back in the day during COVID Do you remember that?
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I'm sorry, what was that?
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Do you remember Clubhouse, the social audio app?
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No.
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So when everybody was locked down, this app came out that was social audio. So it was like, you can get into this thing on your phone, and there would be different rooms with different topics, and then they have a stage and it was no video. It was just like little pictures of your face. Right. And then they'd have an audience and you could bring people up from the audience on the stage if you want. And Myron was on there all the time. Celebrities were on there. It was crazy. Like you could get in a room and hang out with a celebrity, like big time celebrities. It was just a unique phenomenon that happened during COVID and Myron was on there all the time. And people like Sharon Lecter and like, people that, you know, you just never like, thought you could actually be in a phone call basically with.
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Right.
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And, but Myron was just phenomenal. Every time I saw him in a room, I would, I would. You could also get notifications when certain people were in a room. So on your phone it would alert you, hey, Myron's speaking in a room right now. You know, Grant Cardone's speaking in a room right now. Or, you know, whatever. You could pop in and yeah, it was great. I, I, I like him as well. Okay. And then the other thing I wanted to. So, so do you think that people have a low self worth? Even the coaches? I'm not talking about the people they're helping, but the coaches themselves don't value themselves enough and with the help that they could provide. And that's why the money problem comes up.
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No, they, I mean, if you're asking if they have imposter syndrome, I don't think so. I think that if you go into psychology of sales, I mean, I know because you were involved in it, there's a lot of people that can't even ask for the sale, that when I was a salesperson, you know, my manager would be talking, you know, they give you, they coach you on how to close a sale and how to ask for a sale, but people have this lock on them about asking for money and asking for the sale, and it has nothing to do with the product they're selling. It has nothing to do. So when I say that, you know, Myron can put together a package and say, I'm going to charge $375,000. You have to have a mindset for that. Yeah, you have to. I don't think I would ever get there. You know what I mean? Even for me, when I'm pitching sponsors, you know, Even when I'm speeching sponsors, I go low.
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Yeah, but don't you think, don't you think that it, it's repetitions? Like if you were to, if you were to be asked to speak on Stage right now in front of 15, 000 people about the topic you talk about. And they called you up and said, hey, listen, Myrna, we, we have somebody cancel and we need you to drive over here real quick. You have 15, 000 people. I need you to speak for like 30 minutes. You'd be able to like, bang, go over there and do it, handle your business.
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Right, right, right.
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But, but like, that's only because you put all these reps in and all the radio shows and podcasts that you've done. Right? But back in the day before you started that you may not. You might be like, oh, shoot, I don't know if I could do that. What do you mean? You want me to speak on what? In front of how many people? You know, your palm starts sweating. You're like, oh, man, my Fitbit's blowing up. Like, what's going on here? My heart rate's going up. But, but, but because of the reps that you put in, right? So I, I think that people just don't put enough reps in of presenting something and then saying, hey, what are your thoughts? Like, what package looks best for you? If you, if you were going to go forward with this, would you go with this package or this package, you
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know, and alternate, alternate sales post or just.
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Yeah, but just like, you just rep it. You got to rep it, and then eventually you see. And the other thing is, I believe that most people are afraid, people saying no to them, and they have this mindset of, if they say no to me, I don't have anything else. So what I found. Myrna, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. I found that the only time you have this problem is when you don't have enough of something. If you had all the money in the world and you were in sales because you're just doing it as a hobby now because you had the money you needed and you're just looking to help people, but you still need to charge because it makes. Makes sense. You have no problems closing people. You'd be like, hey, look, this thing's $60,000. You can sign here. We could take your credit card over the phone right now, or I can send you the link and we'll sign you up while we're on the phone. How's that sound?
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You're good, right? But if you have, I think you're making thousands or millions, you know, doing sales, there's some people that are very good at it, and there's some people that are not. And even though I was in sales. I was ordinary mediocre at it because I don't have that confidence to close the sale like that. I'm like beat around the bush and I have an alternative clothes and all those things are. Is it cash or credit?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like
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I said. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I mean, do you have a pen? All those things that they teach you in sales. But, but you brought up the speaking thing. Because I've heard a lot of people say that, you know, people don't want to pay them. In fact, I heard Lewis Howe says that, that people don't want to pay him for speaking and he's not going to go speak unless he gets this amount of money and all that. But there's always this money conversation, right? And I'm going through it right now. I have a media agency that charges a lot of money to come on my show. And I'm thinking maybe you should lower that. That's why you're not selling it.
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Well, you know, you, you. Well, I. It's only ver, you know, gonna work if somebody's willing to pay it. But I think to me, I always get, I always get something. You know, it doesn't have to be direct money. It could be a situation where can I meet people there that could be worth millions to me. Can I introduce people to me? And them knowing me makes a difference. There's all different kinds of ways of compensation, right?
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It's true.
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You know, matter of fact, I don't even want to be paid unless I'm getting paid 50,000 and above to go speak somewhere. I'd rather not get paid. I'd rather take the opportunity to be known and get, get people to know who I am and build relationships with people. Because I've had one relationship be worth over a million dollars, you know, so that's.
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But, but yeah, I heard you, I heard you say that on one of your interviews that you, your network is huge, right?
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So, yeah, network is everything, man. And if you, if you know how to be a servant leader, which I know you are, I can tell already by listening to you. If you, if you could be a servant leader and you have a network, you are unstoppable. Yeah, but if you're just a take person, transaction person in a network, that network is going to fizzle people. Just, you know, so when you start working with someone, let's say somebody comes to you and they're like, okay, here's our first call. Myrna, right? What are the, what are the first kind of Steps high level here. What are the first kind of things that you start with to get them started?
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You always need to start with the end in mind. So when someone comes in to the coaching conversation, they are here and they want to be here. But a lot of times when people just think, yeah, I'm not happy with my life, but I haven't actually decided where I want to go. So goals, sorry, goals are very important. So yeah, not even in the big picture coaching conversation, but even in each segment, each one hour coaching call. When you come into the coaching call, you have to have, you have to know what you want to happen during the call, right? So I go into a lot of past because a lot of times your past do influence your future. Unless you have made a conscious decision to rewire your mind or you know, get rid of your limiting beliefs because your mind, which is why I got onto the mindset, coaching and becoming an expert on the mind. Because your mind is your operating system, right? It's just like, you know, DOS when I started doing computers or you know, you know, Microsoft right now it's your operating system. So. But 95% of us are not living consciously and we don't know what's guiding us and why are we reacting to things and you know, what we have buried and all that. So coach's job, at least me as a coach, I'm not coaching people on wealth management and all that. I'm coaching them so that they can, you know, achieve success in, you know, an area of their life. So yeah, so give you an example. I was very surprised that when I first started coaching that a lot of people would come in to the coaching conversation and say things like, you know, I've got the husband, I've got the house, I am, you know, I've got the great job, but I'm not fulfilled. And you can understand that. You used the word servant leader a minute ago, right? You're never going to be fulfilled unless you're working on your purpose, you're going towards your purpose and you're never going to be so fulfilled, you know, unless that's what science says that unless you're in a serving capacity, right? So people are not fulfilled. So you know, you need to find out from someone what is going to fulfill you, you know, do you know? And if you don't know, then we've, we've got to figure it out together, right?
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And, and how do you figure out like if you don't know your purpose, how do you figure out that, well,
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we're all born with talents, right? And, you know, it's. It's what you like, it's what you're passionate about, it's what you have in your hand. One of my first, you know, episodes was talking about, what do you have in your hand? You know, the story of Moses and his staff. Right. So what do you have in your hand? What are you good at? And you work from there. I mean, I heard a story once that was in my personal experience, but I heard. I was. I read a lot. So I was reading something and the person was saying, excuse me. They were in a coaching conversation or talking to someone, and they. They were good at art, and they said, well, I can't make any money at that. You know what I mean? But it is not true. You can make money as an artist. So somebody might say, okay, my purpose, what I like or what I have in my hand is, you know, I can play the piano or I can do something that they don't. They don't put any money towards it. But there's always way. There's always ways to do it.
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Yeah, well, that's a limiting belief. Yeah, that's a limited belief that our
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story, that particular story ended up where the guy was making a lot of money because the coach that he was with, you know, coached him in how he can use his art to make money anyway.
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Yeah, yeah. It's just a belief, like.
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Yes.
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I guarantee you, if you didn't know any better, that, like hearing about the starving artist theory, and you didn't ever hear that from anyone, especially you, most of the time comes from somebody in your environment that says, you can't make any money doing that. You gotta come on, get a real job, go to college. Right? But if you never were exposed to that and then you. All you were exposed to is when you make a painting, people would want that. There's somebody out there that want that thing, and they'll pay for it. That's all you're exposed to. That's what you're going to experience, you know, And. And people really need to get wrapped their heads around that. All right, so as we wind down here, for people that want to go deeper with you, first of all, where can they find the show and where can they go deeper with you?
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Well, yeah, they can find a show that. The show is called transform your mind. And it's on all the podcast players. My website is My Helps us, and the my was Myrna Young. That's why I put that name. My Helps Us is also. It's Also biblical. You know, I'm helping people, I'm serving. And yeah, and you know, I have a large YouTube audience and just search for transform your mind podcast on YouTube. And if you want to follow me on the social medias, I'm very big on Instagram and it's Myrnam Young on Instagram and on Facebook, you can find Facebook, you know, LinkedIn, Twitter. Just my name. But yeah, I mean, going deeper into the show, the podcast, I started off as a mindset, personal development, coaching kind of show, and now I've expanded it into health and longevity. So I interview a lot of. Because, you know, there's a mind body connection, which is what I was just telling you. You think you're having a heart attack and your body starts responding like you're having a. And just have to think the thought. Right. So a lot of times what you're thinking is manifesting diseases in your body. So I do a lot now with, you know, health and longevity on the show and I still do twice a month, I do my solo coaching episodes. So, yeah, if you want to, you know, find out about the mindset and transforming your mind and, you know, transforming your life, then, yeah, hang out on the show.
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Let's go. Go check her out. Myrna Young, everybody. Myrna, thank you so much for spending time with us today.
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You're very welcome, Mike. I enjoyed our conversation. Thank you too.
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Hang tight while I wrap this up, folks. That's this episode of the what do you made up show. Make sure you hit the subscribe follow button at the top of your favorite podcast platform. Keep coming back and be that one.
Host: Mike "C-Roc" Ciorrocco
Guest: Myrna Young
Date: April 20, 2026
In this episode, Mike "C-Roc" Ciorrocco chats with Myrna Young, transformational coach, author, and host of "Transform Your Mind," about her journey from poverty and trauma in Guyana to entrepreneurial and personal development success, emphasizing the vital role of mindset, faith, and energetic awareness. The conversation is filled with stories, practical coaching advice, and honest discussions about the challenges and breakthroughs that shape purpose-driven lives.
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This episode is an empowering look at how mindset, faith, and inner energy can help anyone close the gap between their present and their potential—filled with both personal stories and practical coaching wisdom.