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What Are You Made Of?
The Power Within: Reclaiming Health, Purpose, and Consciousness with Nathan Crane
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A
Welcome back to that One studio on the what are you made of show. It's your boy C Rock here and I got my guy, Nathan Crane here, and I'm so interested in what he works on, but I want to know how he got to doing it, and I hope you do too, Nathan. Welcome to the show, man.
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B
Hey, man, thanks for having me. Happy to be here.
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A
Yeah, my pleasure, bro. It's a long time coming. I've heard your name before. I've seen your stuff places. And you know, I'm on the Internet constantly, like looking and hyper intentional, like who's out there just doing amazing things and we got connected through somehow. And to helping you get on some great podcasts with the amazing mission that you're on. So want to dive into that today. But before we do that, we need to know, what are you made of, Nathan?
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B
I'm made of the same thing everybody else is made of. Pure life force energy. You know, the divine is within all of us. If you look at any spiritual tradition on the planet, they all point to the same thing. We are one human family. And the problems occur because we think we're separate. We think we're completely separate and different and disconnected from each other, right? Look at all the wars on the planet. Look at all the fighting arguments, all the hatred and vitriol. It's because we believe that we come from different gods and different sources. But when you really get down to the essence, I believe in all the deep dive I've done into many spiritual traditions for the last 20 years, that we actually all come from the same source. And when we realize that, then these barriers of separation, of duality can actually start to dissolve a bit and we can realize, hey, we're actually kind of the same and we have a lot more in common than we think. And so I'm not any different, any special, any more unique than anybody else out there. I really believe we are all the same. Same people coming from the same source. And yeah, it shows up unique in our personalities and what we do in the world, but I think if we find that commonality, we'll have a lot more peace and happiness in our lives.
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A
Yeah. I love it. I love it, man. I agree. I mean, and. And you know, I just. I got to tell you this, and I. I don't know if aliens are real and all this, but there's. There's a. There's a Disclosure movie out now. I don't know if you saw it. It's out on Amazon and all over X and Instagram. All this place. Well, I saw the one guy that. The guy that produced the. The film or the documentary, he was on Rogan recently and he was talking about an agent. I don't know if it was an intelligent agent or something. And in the documentary he talks about that he was actually talking to one of the beans. Okay, again, I don't care if this is real or not, right. But the, the. The message I got from it was really hit me. He said, the bean said to him, you humans don't know what you're capable of.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I was like, yeah, wow, that. That's so true. And then it's just started, like, make. I. I had an idea of this before, but just start thinking like we're programmed and suppressed so heavily, which causes disease, which causes us to be not living to our fullest. And. But I was just thinking about, even if that's not true, a true story, the concept is true. And does that ever, like, does this get you going down rabbit holes to think about, like, what are we really truly capable of?
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B
You know, in my life, I've discovered that I'm so much more capable than I've ever thought I was. And I've met so many amazing people like you. I've done hundreds and hundreds of interviews with just incredible people over the years who've done miraculous things from healing themselves of incurable diseases like cancer and. And Parkinson's and things like that, using things like energy medicine and using the power of the mind and meditation and breath work and spiritual practices. And I've just seen so many things that modern science and kind of the modern medical profession and actually, I would say many, many, many people don't believe is even possible from not only physical healing, but also just in your own personal life, you know, what are you capable of? It really comes down to your mind, right? Really comes down to the beliefs and really comes down to do you think you are limited or do you think you are unlimited? And when we start connecting deeper into that true source of who we really are, you start to realize that you are part of the infinite and your potential is infinite. It's only our beliefs, our subconscious programming, the things that we've taken on, the identities that we've attached to through our ego, that prevent us from realizing that. You know, my own life, I struggled with addiction. I was homeless at 15. I was almost dead by 18. And everybody told me, you know, you're going to be in prison or in jail, you're an addict the rest of your life, you'll never make anything of yourself. You're an idiot, stupid. You're all this stuff, right? And that's how I lived. And yet in the last.
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A
What you're saying is you allowed that to shape an identity that you started living into and being right based on what they were telling you.
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B
Well, I actually, what I did is I denied it completely and said, no, I don't, I don't prescribe to that. And that's what helped me. But it also, what's funny is sometimes these subconscious programming or these traumas, they can actually cause you to be really successful in life. And that's kind of what happened is I've been able to help millions of people around the world. I've built successful companies, I've been able to do major humanitarian projects and raise hundreds of thousand dollars for wonderful, you know, initiatives and things like that. And yet at the same time, there was still some kind of underlying self doubt because of these things that happened throughout my life where I just packed positivity on top of it. So I said, no, I don't accept that. And then that led me into success. But yet there's still something underneath that that was still there. And so until we recognize what that is and can release those traumas, we're. Even though we may seem like we're doing big, huge, wonderful things, like a lot of people in your network, there might still be an underlying hint of insecurity or self doubt or some shame or some negative thinking that we just. That's kind of one of the challenges I see with the personal growth is oftentimes we just pack positivity on positivity, on positivity, on positivity, without ever getting to the root of who we truly are. And so you may seem successful and yet you still have something missing about who you really are and your true potential. I started to notice that in my own life even recently. And you know, I'm still on this spiritual journey after 20 years, this personal growth path of shedding away these old layers of peeling the onion of. I just went through a two week deep dive teacher training course at the Art of Living and it was massive ego shattering and you know, like completely tearing apart these ancient identities from, you know, early in our lives and, and getting deeper to the essence of who you are. You know, in my life I've. I've been one of those people that just. I do, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do. I have no problem, you know, creating and moving and organizing and getting lots and lots and lots of big Stuff done. One of the teachers told me, she said, look, you just need to be. Just be. And even though I've, you know, very happy in my life, especially these last couple of years, I found a deeper sense of inner peace and happiness. I could still see there's. There's still some of something there that's coming out, that's being unfolded. This deeper sense of being, of just accepting life as it is and getting to that deeper essence of who you really are. If you look at the Vedas and Upanishads and the ancient teachings from India, you know, what they all point to is that this deeper sense of self, what we might call the soul, that we've disconnected from that and we've attached and identified through the ego, with our titles, with our names, with our positions in the world, with the physical body. And this is what actually keeps us limited. So we're talking about being unlimited or our infinite potential as long as we identify with anything in the material world. Jesus talks about this so beautifully in the New Testament as well, is that when we're identifying with anything outside of our soul, our essence, our. Our divinity, our oneness with God, then we are limiting ourselves. And so to me, it is as much or more about a spiritual path than. Than anything else.
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A
Yeah, I agree. I agree. Everything changed for me when I surrendered.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, and so. So how was the stuff recently bubbling up as compared to before, when the things were bubbling like, how does it show?
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B
Yeah, so it's a good question. You know, I realized that, like, ever since I was a kid, there were situations where people treated me like I was an idiot or I was dumb or I was stupid. And it showed up, like, four or five major points in my life up to my early 20s. And when I just, like, I just denied it and stuffed it away. And what I did as a. I guess a coping mechanism was focused on growing my intelligence and intellect and studying and reading hundreds and hundreds of books and growing wisdom and things like that. So it was the ego. It was identifying with, oh, I'm not dumb, I'll be wise. Right. This is all subconscious. Like, I had no idea this was going on. And so through growing the intellect and intelligence and wisdom, it basically just kind of covered up those old beliefs, but those beliefs were still there. And so how it showed up was like, once that awareness started to rise, then this underlying nervousness started to arise, which had been like, I've been public speaking for years and years. I can get on stage in front of hundreds of people and be perfectly at home and not nervous. And yet here I am in a group of 30 to people who. I feel like family at this course, and this. That feeling of nervousness is coming up and I'm like, what is this? And yeah, what it was, was there's. It was an opportunity for me to allow that to arise. And so when we have these feelings come up, these emotions, these underlying, you know, traumas that we kind of stuffed away or subconscious beliefs, the opportunity is to recognize it, have awareness around it and accept it instead of just layer stuff on top of it. And that's kind of what I did over the years was, no, I'll be. I'll. I won't be dumb, I'll be wise, I'll be intelligent, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. But that doesn't solve it because I never fully accepted what I was feeling when I was a kid. I didn't have the emotional intelligence, how to do it Right. And so that was really interesting. And I did get to a point throughout this last teacher training course where I was just fully accepting whatever was coming up. And then it would dissipate, you know, little by little, dissipate, dissipate, dissipate, and just start to recognize it and accept it for what it is. Far too often we deny how we feel. We deny our emotions. Especially if you're in the personal growth space, like, no, no, no, I'm not that way. I'm this way. No, no, I'm not weak, I'm strong. No, no, I'm not this, I'm not that. But look, if you're feeling weak and you just try to deny it and put positivity on it, then it's like you're trying to, you know, put out a fire with a match. It's not going to work. Right. Cover it up for a while. You can, you know, put like a little container over it, but that fire is still going to keep going underneath. And so, yeah, it was really, really interesting to see this come up after all these years and so much, you know, work. It's like there's always something else to work on.
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Yeah, you can never stop learning and understanding and being, you know, more aware and understanding that you're not what you're thinking about. Like, so many people take the identity of what their thoughts are. Yeah. And you separate that from who you are really, when you find out who you are, and then just observe, you know, and. And yeah, it's. It's a constant. I'm 48, and I'm still. I'm still doing My work and still feeling stuff, you know, trying to figure things out, you know.
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B
So the thing for me was, another big thing that came up was, you know, there's a principle that's taught in the art of living called don't be a football of others opinions. Which basically brings up the realization that pretty much all of us are struggling with this idea of self image, right? And caring too much about what people think about us. And I thought I was over that. And yet it came up so clearly it was like, nope, you still got more work to do. You still care too much about what people think about you. And, you know, you're still concerned about judgment, even at a subconscious level. So it was good for me. It's like bringing this. That's why I say like shattering the ego. You know, the ego is like, it's. It's so tricky. I went through a really profound, multiple profound kind of spiritual awakening moments over the years. And at one point it was like, oh, the ego's gone. It's like, no, the ego's never really gone. It's just. Is it, as my spiritual teacher, Gurudev Sri Sri talks about is like, is it so tight and hard like a rock, where you feel so separate and isolated from others? Or is it expanded and inclusive where you feel a belongingness and a connectedness to others? The ego is never about. It's never about getting rid of the ego completely, but softening it and expanding it to include humanity. Instead of, you know, separating, think, oh, we're, we're separate, we're different. We're were too, too different from each other, which, like I said, creates those barriers. And when there's barriers, then there's no belongingness. And if there's no belongingness, then you have insecurity, you have controversy. And at the extreme level of that, you know, war and violence and killing. And so, yeah, a big part of it is recognizing, okay, maybe I do care a bit too much about what people think about me. And is that serving me? Is it helping me in any way whatsoever? And the answer for me is, no, it's not. And so how can I continue to shed that away and just be authentic, Be authentically yourself? Right? To me, authenticity is, hey, this is what I'm thinking. This is what I'm feeling. This is what's going on right now instead of kind of. I think this happens so much in personal development and self growth. It's. It's like, oh, I'm feeling these or thinking these things. No, no, let me, let me shift it. Let Me, change it, let me. And we don't even give a chance for that truth, that authenticity to come out. And if you don't allow that, then that energy gets stuck inside yourself and you never truly grow to the next level.
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A
Yeah, 100 man. That ego is there for a purpose and that's to keep us safe.
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B
Yeah.
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Once it gets beyond that, you know, that's when it gets you into trouble. Yeah. Definitely don't want to not have it though. And then the other thing is worrying about what people think is, is another form of like thinking that you're not going to be safe. And, and when you just start to realize, like, okay, I'm safe. I've gotten through everything I've ever been through. I'm still here. It helps, you know, but so, so how did you get into what you're doing like in the first place, like out of school and all that? What kind of like work did you do at first? And then how did you get into doing what you're doing?
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Yeah, like I said, the, you know, I had a really rough childhood. At 15, I was basically homeless and addicted to drugs and alcohol and on a really bad path and very sick, weak, depressed, suicidal, and I was almost dead by 17, 18 years old. And I had a vision. I had a beautiful Scherzo family take me in for a short time, show me what unconditional love was like. Show me that maybe there's a different way to live my life. And that gave me. It planted a seed and gave me some hope. And then I moved to San Diego when I was 18. I started my life over and from there I got committed. It was 2005. I got committed to being as healthy as I could, to serving others, to really understanding myself, my purpose, why I'm here, and going deep down a spiritual path and a health path and all of that. And that led me into deep health research, becoming like nutrition consultant, coach, researcher, led me to helping people with cancer and focusing on holistic wellness and nutrition. And so I had a company for a while called Conquering Cancer. We had millions of people come through and watch our documentary series and master classes and a book, best selling book that I wrote. And, and we saw miracles happen, you know, following this holistic lifestyle that I was realizing in my own life was helping me and helping others and then watching, you know, people with even stage 4 cancers completely reverse their cancer with meditation and spiritual practices and, you know, plant based eating and cleaning up their diet and lifestyle. So, you know, I had a coaching program and a whole bunch of things. It was.
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A
So that's what. So that's what you started, letting you get into this. But what were you doing when you moved to San Diego to, like, pay the bills? Like, at first. Would you just get a job?
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B
I mean, I was living on the streets at first. We had a guitar. My best friend and I had a guitar on the street. And so we were, you know, we make about five bucks a day. We could. We had enough money to buy bread and lettuce sandwiches and some bottle of water, you know, so that was like the first, first few weeks. And then I got a job, which. There's a whole long story, actually. A lot of these stories are in my new book that's coming out, like, in depth. But the. Because a lot of these things, like, I go back and read it and I can't even believe half this stuff is true. But anywhere I was walking in the mall, I was sober for the first time in a very long time. And I felt more high than I had been on anything up to that point. It was such a fascinating experience for me because. And I think that happens in your life when you commit to changing your life for the better, doing something out of the ordinary, completely unknown, but your soul, your heart's guiding you in that direction, and you do it and you take action and you follow through. It's amazing what happens when. What miracles start to show up. And I felt so energized and so high and so alive just on life, which for me at that time was miraculous. And long story short, I got a sales position, commission only for a cell phone company for a T mobile retailer in the mall. And the guys were, you know, I had to borrow 100 bucks to buy basically a really cheap, all white kind of suit type thing. And so I had one pair of clothes, and my manager and the assistant manager were betting in front of me, you know, how long I was going to last. This was a really high burnout position, selling phones in a mall. Commission only. And, you know, one's like, oh, I bet he lasts. I bet you 100 bucks he lasts two weeks. The other one's like, I'll bet you 200 he lasts three weeks, you know, and they had no faith in me. I was sleeping in the bathroom at times I didn't know. I was sleeping in the office at times I didn't know. And showering in the bathroom and sink because I. The bus to get back to the bedroom where we were staying, which was a, you know, Mexican coyote. You know, coyotes that bring people across from the border. So they let us stay in a bedroom for a while. He was helping us get on our feet. And the bus didn't run late enough sometimes. So sometimes I'd have to sleep in the store. And then the guys would come, they'd be like, why are you here so early? I was like, oh, I just got here early. The bus got here early, and, you know, washing my hair in the sink and stuff like that. And. But I was so focused, so committed, and I learned really fast. And within six months, I. Within six months, I think I got promoted. Assistant manager, became one of the top salespeople in the country, got promoted to manager. And then I became my manager who was betting against me. I became his boss.
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A
That's the way it should work.
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I became a district manager and then a regional sales director. And then. And then I got really sick because I was not taking care of myself. And so, I mean, I was about to be earning six figures at 19 years old in a corporate regional sales director position while still managing three locations, training, hiring, firing dozens of people. Everyone's older than me. I'm like 19 years old, right? And. And I have to still be a top salesperson, and most of my money is still based on commission. So. It was so intense. I was working seven days a week, 12 plus hours a day, every single day. And then we started partying again. So I was drinking at night, sleeping five or six hours, still smoking cigarettes at that time, eating very unhealthy. I was drinking Red bulls, you know, two giant coffees, 10, 20 cigarettes a day, whatever it was. Eating breadsticks for lunch and then drinking beer at night. And I mean, if you want a recipe for burnout.
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Yeah, yeah, make me have heartburn. Yeah.
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A year and a half, I had, I think, four or five promotions. And at the same time, I was complete. I got so sick. And I just. I knew in my heart I was. I was already starting kind of personal development, spiritual path. I was playing around with meditation. I was writing some kind of motivational blogs and things like that. And then something inside of me just told me, like, you have to quit. You have to. You have to get out of this now. It's time to go. The. The. The pressure was so high and the environment was unhealthy. And I listened and, you know, I was out of work for like a month and spent my savings and drank myself, you know, bottles of vodka for about a month. And then I said, enough. I didn't come here to do this. Time to drop this. And Then I moved on to the next thing. The next thing, next thing. That story goes on and on and on. But, yeah, that was the first couple years in San Diego.
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Okay. Okay. Yeah. It's always interesting because, man, like, I look back at my life and I'm like, you know, by the way, too, when I start things and I eventually have things happen, I'm like, oh, God, I never want to go back to starting this thing again, you know, like. Or I can't believe I live my life like, that wasn't me.
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Yeah.
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And we go back to that of really true identity. Who are you? It was. That wasn't me. I look back in my early 20s, like, the partying idea, all that. I don't. That wasn't me. Makes me sick to my stomach, the things I was doing and think about that. So I'm always interested in other people's stories and stuff. And then. And then you did documentary. How did the documentary come along? Like, how did that come about.
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I was. I was in. I was probably seven or eight years kind of deep into health research and it's kind of personal growth path and, you know, spiritual studying. I was. I had a spiritual mentor in my life at that time. And I was studying with Buddhists, and I was studying some of Jesus's teachings in the New Testament and just native. I spent a lot of time with Native American shamans and doing ceremonies with them and cleaning up my own health. So stopped eating fast food, started, you know, cleansing and detoxing and eating so much healthier and exercising and really taking care of myself. And then I was, within two or three years, actually moving to San Diego. I was doing public speaking. And so I was being asked to teach at, like, retreats and events and conferences and small events. And so I kind of thought. I even wrote a book at that time, I think on a cleanse that I designed, health cleanse. And I thought, you know, the ego was like, oh, yeah, I know a lot, you know, And. And then my grandpa was diagnosed with cancer. And when I went to visit him in Arizona, he'd been doing treatment already, and the treatment was just killing him, the chemotherapy and radiation. And I thought at that time, like, oh, I should know enough by now to help him. But I realized I knew nothing about cancer and that, you know, those kind of moments in life help you realize how much you don't know and humble you. And made me feel helpless and hopeless because I thought I should be able to help him. And I don't know what to say. I don't know what to do. And shortly after that, he passed away. This was 2013, and I just committed myself at that time to learn everything I could about cancer. So I, or any family members, you know, would never be in that position again. And so I started producing some of the first online summits around cancer and bringing together top holistic doctors, functional medicine doctors, top oncologists, you know, cancer researchers, scientists, people who healed cancer using holistic and natural methods. So I did summits and then conferences. I had some really successful conferences in San Diego, some big online summits at hundreds of thousands of people come in, did lots and lots of interviews. And then that led to the idea of I want to do a feature film documentary. So I started that and that was a five year project and then I did put it out through all the film festivals and it ended up winning like 20, around 20 awards actually.
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You didn't, you didn't know what you were doing as far as filming?
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I never did. I mean, I didn't go to school for nothing, right. Like, yeah, I didn't even graduate high school, so I didn't know how to. I just kind of learned on the fly. I learned as I went and figured this stuff out as I went. And that's why I tell people like, you have so much more in you and so much more potential than you think you do. I had no idea how to film and direct and produce and I did just about everything. I had a team for a while and spent a lot of money. And then eventually I realized, like, I didn't have the money to keep going and I didn't like the direction the film was going. So I took it back and I did everything, everything else myself. I. I rewrote the script in Sedona, Arizona in one day. We wrote a whole brand new script for the film and basically edited, narrated, produced everything myself. And it was a number of years kind of learning these things along the way. But yeah, it ended up changing a lot of people's lives and giving people a lot of hope and a different perspective. It's called Cancer the Integrative Perspective. And show people a different perspective around cancer. And so then that led to a documentary series called the Missing Link, which then we had, you know, millions of people come through our, through our, you know, free screenings and stuff like that led to a coaching program and all that. Because once I realized, hey, there are real solutions for cancer that are natural, holistic, integrative, that people don't realize are accessible to us. And I wanted to get it out to as many people as possible. The problem has been censorship around it.
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A
So I was going to ask you next.
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I had a TED talk approved by the organizer, and it was very. I mean, I had 15 plus very solid scientific references backing everything up. And all this TED talk was about, was about meditation and how it can help somebody fighting cancer. Right?
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Yeah.
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Spent the money, filmed it, had it edited, whole thing. And then they submit it, and they said, nope, sorry, can't do it, because it's promoting natural health for cancer. And so then Ted, as an organization, denied it. I mean, this is kind of censorship that I've been dealing with for years. Yeah, my colleagues have been dealing with for years. Because, you know, you're going, there are powers that be that don't want people realizing they can heal themselves from diseases. And there's a lot of beautiful work out there that helps people realize that. But, you know, there's a lot of money involved.
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And, well, this goes to what the alien said in that story of, you people have no idea what you're capable of. Are you humans like. And, and, and that's because we're programmed not to know.
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B
You know, in the medical industry, if somebody heals themselves naturally of cancer, they call the spontaneous remission. And what I tell people, I say, that's not spontaneous. It's intentional. Every person I've ever interviewed or every person that's gone through our programs, or every person any of my colleagues have worked with who reversed irreversible cancers, their doctor sent them home to die and said, there's nothing we can do. And then they're living 20 years later because they reversed it. It was very intentional. It was not spontaneous. It was focusing on it with the power of the mind. The breath, the meditation, the prayer, the visualization, as well as the nutrition, the diet, the exercise, all these things, because once you realize what causes disease, then you can understand how to prevent it and even potentially reverse it. The problem is not even medical doctors are trained today on what actually causes cancer or any disease. That's why you get a blue magic pill to try and fix it that comes with half a dozen other side effects because they're not treating the cause. And it's not because they're bad people. It's because the actual medical literature that they're being trained in colleges does not teach them the root causes of these diseases. But when you spend thousands of hours, as I have done, reading the literature, interviewing hundreds and hundreds of people and seeing the results, I mean, you'd have to be an idiot. To not be able to recognize, oh, here's the core causes and here's what we can do about it.
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But, but there's enough information out now that the doctors that are in the normal medical buildings, they, they don't go and do more research themselves than that. To me they are either, they may be bad people. Okay. Because at the end of the day, why are you not going to learn more?
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I'll give you, you know, I'll give an example of somebody. So there's a pre med student who posted on one of my posts recently and she said what you're telling people is medical misinformation. It's killing people. I'm going to report you to XYZ organizations. There's nothing. Our professors at our medical school right now tell us there is no scientific evidence showing that any natural approaches can help with anything around cancer. Okay, so this is a pre med student being told by her professor, there's no natural scientific research at all. She said she used the term it's all quackery, it's all made up. The professor said there's no natural research. They have no. Many of these students have no idea. My friend Sayergy put together a website called Green Med Info and on that website you can find over 70,000 peer reviewed medical entries in the top journals around the world on natural published research for natural solutions to every disease on the planet. At least 70,000 and medical students today are still being told there's no research at all. Right, so to your point, yes. If you're not critical thinking and using your own judgment, going out and looking into these things and questioning, you're just a blind sheep walking around. Part of the problem, I get it.
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Part of the problem.
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That's at the same time though, you know, the, the workload is so heavy for these. Like I have compassion because the workload is so heavy they have no time outside to go do anything. And it's, and it's programmed that way, like to go and do your own research. Now all the colleagues in my network who realized often after 5, 10, 15, sometimes 20 years that what they were doing was actually not solving any chronic health conditions. And something inside them finally stirred, right? Their soul woke up and said, I really want to help people and I'm not actually helping people. And then they go and do research and go, oh, there's functional medicine, there's natural medicine, there's ayurvedic medicine, there's holistic medicine. And they start getting these additional trainings and then they start seeing results for their patients and their whole life changes. These are many of the colleagues in my network who know they had to go through that kind of awakening on their own by deep questioning. But some of them, it took 20 years in practice before that finally clicked in, you know.
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A
Yeah, but here's the thing, man. I like the excuse that I don't have time because I'm overworked or whatever the case is. Here's the thing, they could find somebody that has access to the research, like yourself or someone else and talk to them and saying, hey, can you provide this to me? Because I don't have the time to go look at it. Can you provide me some and, and do that? Like they just. To me, it's like, yeah, you might not have time to go do the research that Nathan has. Yeah, but Nathan has it.
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B
Yeah. And the ones that do that, that are proactive, you know, we definitely congratulate them. Right. I was brought on.
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A
Yeah.
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B
By university recently to teach a course to these medical doctors, functional medical doctors that wanted to learn, you know, some of these things. And so I taught a master class to them and they loved it. And this is a, this is a well known university that sought me out and said, hey, can you come teach our medical doctors? I'm not a medical doctor. I didn't even graduate high school. But I've done enough research where they follow my work and they realize, okay, this guy can actually help us. And so the universities that are actually taking that initiative and doing that, you know, it's wonderful they're doing that. We need more universities to do that.
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A
Yeah, well, look, we're up against the clock. I just want to touch on one more thing. Have you done any research on urine therapy? And you know my, my friend Jonathan Otto.
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B
Yeah, it's funny question. I did a 90 day experiment because of Jono. And Yeah, Jono's. Jono's my brother from another mother.
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A
Yeah, I love that dude.
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B
It took two years of him trying to convince me before I was even open. Even open to discussing it.
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A
I think I'm only one year in to that and I haven't done it.
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B
Yet, so I haven't. I have a full 90 day personal research with blood work and everything. Experiment on my YouTube channel. I had them on my podcast a couple years ago or sometime year. Two years ago. Right. I said, all right, you have two hours to convince me to drink my own urine, Jono. And by the end of it on the podcast, I actually drank a little bit, but I don't use it now. And I just, I'm not against it. I'm not a big proponent of it at the moment. But the research I've done on it and the personal experiment I did and all of that I think is very fascinating. And I think there's, there's a lot of potential merit to it. I think it needs more research and I think it needs, you know, more people looking into it. And I think there's caveats and there's nuances and there's things to watch out for and I don't think it's a, you know, Jono's fully set like it's a cure all kind of thing. I'm not convinced that that's what it is. I'm also not convinced at all that it's bad for you unless you're on taking a lot of medications and stuff like that. Then yeah, yeah, you definitely need to be careful drinking your own urine. But yeah, urine therapy goes back thousands of years in ayurvedic medicine. It's been around a very long time. There's some books people can research deeper on it. And I actually we did a short film on somebody who was their eyesight, you know, they needed glasses, they didn't want to wear glasses. And this is a common case study I found was then they take and put it in their eyes and within about two or three months eyesight completely came back to normal. And you know, I'll say this, where I what finally convinced me to at least be open to it was once I looked into the research into this simple fact people can look at this on their own is that we all bathe and breathe and drink our own urine for about six months in utero. And it is what actually grows our organs and our tissues because it's so full of stem cells. So amniotic fluid is urine. Right. And yeah, again like I'm not out there going, I'm not proponent saying yeah, everybody drink your urine. I'm just saying it's fascinating. I've looked deeply into it. I think it's, it's worth exploring further. I think it needs more research. I don't, I'm not convinced anymore like I used to be that it is a complete waste product. And, and you know, we need to be like, oh my God, urine's so bad. I mean you see skin improvements in people, you see eye health regenerate. You actually there's hundreds and hundreds of case studies completely reversing diseases by fasting on their own urine. It's been a practice in a health practice for thousands of years. And, you know, there is some research showing that. I know Jono talks a lot about this. I think it was Wake Forest or Wakefield University that did the research that showed that within something like three or four weeks, they were able to replicate something like 100 million stem cells in a urine sample. So, you know, we're looking for. These are mesenchymal stem cells and they're pulling it from bone and from, you know, fat and things like that. And yet it's in your own urine. And so these are stem cells that can regenerate any tissue in your body. So again, it's interesting. We'll say that it's interesting.
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A
Final question. What did it taste like? Did it taste like what you thought.
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B
It was going to taste like at first? Mentally? At first. Very weird. You know, after about a week, I kind of got used to it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And so like I said, I have a 90 full 90 day recap like experiment video on my YouTube if people want to go watch that with everything in there.
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A
And is the YouTube under your name? Yeah, yeah, just Nathan Crane. Go check that out. Anywhere else you want to send them?
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B
Yeah, I mean, you can connect with me, Instagram, anywhere like that. Nathan Crane.com is my website. We've got a newsletter. We got about 300, 000 people on there. We send out just cutting edge holistic health and wellness and, you know, inspiring stuff every single day. So you can go join that for free, folks.
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A
Go do that. Because we all need to take agency over our health. We can't just rely on your primary care physician or your specialist that you go to like and just listen to everything they say right away. I mean, you got to give them some respect for the training they've been through. But at the end of the day, what are they being trained on and who is training them and for what purpose? Take agency over your health, folks. Nathan, thank you so much for joining me today, sharing this story, brother.
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B
Hey, man, thanks for having me on. It's great.
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A
All right, hang tight while I wrap this up, folks. Thank you so much for being here on the what do you made of show. It's your boy, C Rock signing off. For now, make sure you hit the subscribe or follow button at the top of your favorite podcast platform and keep coming back. And until next time, be that one.