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Kit Wilson (2:46)

Thank you very much. Oh no, thank you, thank you.

Cody Rhodes (2:49)

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Kit Wilson (2:54)

Summary

What Do You Wanna Talk About? with Cody Rhodes

Guest: Kit Wilson

Date: May 6, 2026

Episode Overview

In this unfiltered and lively conversation, WWE Champion Cody Rhodes hosts rising Smackdown star Kit Wilson aboard the podcast bus at Buffalo Trace Distillery. The episode explores Kit’s journey from the UK indie scene to WWE, his evolving persona, philosophies on masculinity, and a wide-ranging array of topics from fashion to childhood gaming memories. Both men share stories from the road, reflect on lessons learned, and provide candid advice for up-and-coming talent, all while maintaining a fun, sometimes irreverent tone.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Meeting on the UK Indies & Early Career Connections

Kit reveals his first encounter with Cody Rhodes: as a young wrestler two years into his career, Kit recalls their meeting during Cody’s UK indie run, including stories of wrestling Nick Aldis and getting medical help from Mickey James after an injury.
Humorous anecdote: Cody had previously complimented Kit’s shoes, a moment echoed later by Finn Balor. (05:02)
Kit’s dive gone wrong: Kit recounts splitting open his elbow during an indie spot, leading to a supportive backstage check-in by Cody and Mickey James. (05:41)
Cody relates with his own rookie injury: Ricky Steamboat coming to Cody’s aid after a childhood accident at a WCW show. (10:41)

2. Indie Wrestling Realities

Indie wrestling venues: Tales of wrestling at nightclubs, dressing in alleys (PCW story), and the family-show atmosphere of UK promotions. (12:09)
Chaos at shows: Kit shares a story of a chaotic multiman match with Drew McIntyre and Noam Dar, where his attempt at a low blow is thwarted by Drew’s “behemoth thighs.” (13:47)

3. Hot Takes on Toxic Masculinity & Locker Room Culture

Kit’s campaign against toxic masculinity: Kit describes his persona’s mission as promoting male vulnerability and dismantling rigid masculine tropes. (14:21)

"I think toxic masculinity for me is almost a lack of vulnerability in males." – Kit Wilson (14:32)
Cody applauds Kit’s honesty:

"Cheers to a real answer." – Cody Rhodes (14:42)
Locker room talk: Kit jokingly labels various peers (Matt Cardona, Nick Aldis, Randy Orton, Jade) as “toxic”—with humorous disclaimers that anyone can grow and become more vulnerable. (18:30)
Kit describes his character’s approach: Blurring lines between real life and on-screen persona, he aims to create “a new culture within men” in wrestling. (15:11)

4. Inside WWE: Lessons, Opportunities, and Setbacks

Missing the Royal Rumble: Kit opens up about the letdown of not being part of the match, using it as motivation, and making himself useful at the event (working with social teams, connecting with The Miz). (24:26)

"You put yourself to use because what else was going to do?" – Kit Wilson (25:31)
The importance of checkpoints: Both hosts discuss career “checkpoint moments,” the value of staying prepared, and using disappointments as fuel for future growth. (22:01)
Proactive creativity: Cody praises Kit’s initiative, noting that Kit sent nine full PDFs of pitches/creative ideas—more than anyone else on the roster—which Cody shared with WWE creative. (29:46)

5. On Fashion, “Kit’s Fits,” and Personal Branding

Fashion as authentic self-expression: Kit explains “Kit’s Fits,” his viral entrance and fashion-forward persona, rooted in his background (mom’s a seamstress, wife sews, personal love of clothes). (35:33)

"Clothes is something I've always had an interest in… it feels like a shade of myself and a shade of the character that I can bring in through social media that kind of gives layers." – Kit Wilson (36:12)
Cody scores high on Kit’s style rankings: Kit calls Cody “the 007 of the company.” (35:42)
Kit’s real-life style: He’s just as put-together off-camera—“Catch me on a Wednesday and I’m dressed the same.” (36:41)

6. Personal Life: Marriage and Everyday Joys

Double weddings: Kit talks about marrying his wife twice (first courthouse, then mountains), both wrestlers, bonded by shared experiences. (37:23)
From cooking to cats: He describes their shared love of cooking, vinyl shopping at Target, and their family of cats. (37:15)

7. On Finding His Voice and Enjoying the Ride

Current career crossroads: Kit feels like he’s “found his voice” and is entering the most exciting phase yet. (38:56)

"I feel like this is the start of success, you know, this is the… the early days of what you'll look back on and be like, oh, that's when it clicked for him." – Kit Wilson (38:56)
The ‘just say yes’ mentality: Kit recounts taking every opportunity, including last-minute improv with R-Truth in Chicago—even if it meant rescheduling Disney trips. (39:27)

"I'm a yes guy anyway. I'm a yes boy." – Kit Wilson (39:44)

8. Pop Culture and Nostalgia

Favorite SNL cast members: In a detour, both hosts rank SNL stars, with Kit championing Kyle Mooney and Cody appreciating the current strong ensemble. (41:06)
Bond fandom: Kit’s favorite Bond is Pierce Brosnan, but he also appreciates Daniel Craig as he’s grown older. Cody reminisces about retro gaming and GoldenEye parties, establishing mutual 007 fandom. (43:42)
Shared love of Zelda: The Triforce on Cody’s boots resonates with Kit, both for symbolism (power, courage, wisdom) and personal nostalgia. Cody even received a cease and desist from Nintendo over the design. (48:04)

9. WWE Goals and Dream Teams

Immediate goals: Kit sees the US or Intercontinental Championship as realistic short-term targets post-tag-team run. (34:39)

"I think capturing a United States championship, capturing an intercontinental championship… I think that's something I can make work." – Kit Wilson (35:00)
Survivor Series dream team: Kit’s picks are playfully unconventional—his wife (valeted by their cats), Sami Zayn (“sacrificial lamb”), Elton Prince, The Miz as “The Marine,” John Cena, and wild card Umaga. (51:33–53:13)

10. Tag Team Inspiration

Pretty Deadly’s influences: Biggest modern influences were The Revival and American Alpha, but Kit and Elton intentionally drew from classic teams like the Midnight Express to create their old-school meets new-school style. (54:03)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Kit on toxic masculinity:
"I think toxic masculinity for me is almost a lack of vulnerability in males..." (14:32)
Cody on fan overexposure:
"I think what's gonna happen is an overload... to where fans just stop caring." (08:22)
Kit on his main message:
"Not only am I trying to get to the top. But I'm trying to get to the top of the message to create a new culture within men." (15:20)
Cody’s career advice:
"Do all the things that you're already doing. But make sure when the moment comes, you can execute." (31:23)
Kit on finding his voice:
"I feel like I found my voice. And I feel like this is the start of... success, you know, this is the... the early days of what you'll look back on and be like, oh, that's when it clicked for him." (38:56)
Kit on WWE goals:
"I think capturing a United States championship... I think that's something I can achieve. I think that's something I can do good with and I think that's something I can make work." (35:00)
Cody on inspiration from video games (Zelda):
"I thought the principles of the Triforce... of thinking and leaning towards your own wisdom, or what you've learned and applying it, of being ambitious and wanting to seek or be powerful... and then having the courage to do it." (48:04)
Kit on “Kit’s Fits”:
"It feels like a shade of myself and a shade of the character that I can bring in through social media that kind of gives layers." (36:26)

Timestamps for Important Segments

[03:41] Kit and Cody's first indie meeting, shoe story, Nick Aldis match
[05:41] Kit’s dive injury, Mickey James & Cody tending backstage
[14:21] Kit explains his views on toxic masculinity in wrestling
[22:00] Discussion on “checkpoint” moments and lessons learned
[24:26] Kit details missing the Royal Rumble and using it as motivation
[29:46] Cody praises Kit’s initiative—submitting nine pitch PDFs
[35:33] Introduction and explanation of "Kit's Fits" persona
[37:23] Kit discusses married life as a wrestler
[38:56] Kit on finding his voice as a WWE character
[39:44] Kit describes accepting last-minute improv gigs as a “yes boy”
[43:42] Bond fandom—a deep dive into 007 nostalgia
[48:04] The story behind Cody’s Triforce/Legend of Zelda inspiration
[51:33–53:13] Kit’s "Dream Team" picks for Survivor Series
[54:03] Tag team influences: The Revival, American Alpha, and beyond

Conclusion

This episode offers a rare look at the journey of a WWE Superstar on the rise, through candid conversation, humor, and plenty of heartfelt wisdom. Kit Wilson distinguishes himself as a driven, fashion-forward talent, dedicated to shifting locker room culture and leaving a positive mark both in and out of the ring. Cody’s warmth, candor, and mentorship round out a free-flowing episode brimming with memorable stories, pop culture nostalgia, and advice for anyone pursuing dreams in or beyond the squared circle.