Jokes, Outrage, and the New Rules of Comedy with Sam Morril

Summary

What Now? with Trevor Noah

Episode: Jokes, Outrage, and the New Rules of Comedy with Sam Morril (November 20, 2025)

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Episode Overview

Trevor Noah sits down with acclaimed stand-up comedian Sam Morril for a candid and engaging conversation about the evolving landscape of comedy, navigating controversy, authenticity on and off stage, and the strange, often illogical boundaries comedians encounter today. They dive into Sam's process, the pressures and pleasures of touring, what defines “honest” comedy, and why society has become so quick to turn art into culture war fodder. Their freewheeling chat touches on everything from classic sitcom nostalgia to COVID’s impact on audiences, and even the humble rat, all delivered in their characteristic mix of sharp wit, honesty, and mutual respect for the craft.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Honesty and Process of Stand-Up Comedy

• Comedy as Hyper-Feedback Art
  • Sam describes stand-up as unique for its immediacy—unlike books or films, comics know “right away if you’re slipping” (07:27).
  • “We focus-test our stuff more than anyone else… Is this funny? Scorsese doesn’t do this.” —Sam Morril [08:15]
• Cringe at Calling Comedy 'Art'
  • Sam feels pretentious calling stand-up an art despite parallels to painting or music.
  • Trevor contrasts this humility with how chefs shy away from the “chef” title, despite their artistry.
  • “I get, like, cringey. Cause we’re… it’s a pretentious way to describe—it’s so unpretentious, you know?” —Sam Morril [05:19]

2. Instant Feedback vs. Other Creative Forms

• Testing Material in Real Time
  • Comedians, unlike filmmakers, get instant crowd reaction, which Sam finds both exhilarating and brutal.
• Why Some Jokes Fail
  • Trevor suggests that sometimes a joke fails not in content but because audiences haven't resolved the underlying cultural tension (12:02):
    • “Oftentimes in comedy, the punchline has to release you from reality… If the punchline brings you back to reality and a reality that you haven’t resolved, audiences aren’t happy.” —Trevor Noah [12:02]

3. Navigating Outrage, Tribes, and the ‘Rules’ of Modern Comedy

• Comedy Becoming Tribalized
  • Trevor and Sam lament how jokes are weaponized by social and political factions—clips are cut to feed echo chambers [83:24], making it hard for comics to be “for everyone.”
  • “Now, if Taylor Swift performs, and you’re not a Swifty, the world tells you you’re losing.” —Trevor Noah [48:24]
  • Sam: “I feel like you are one of the final bastions of comedy right now.” [49:24]
• Algorithm & Out-of-Context Outrage
  • Social platforms mute “dangerous” words, burying nuance.
  • “Comics will start writing for the algorithm. That’s what worries me—that jokes will be written for some AI, not for people.” —Sam Morril [95:03]

4. Reluctant Heroism: Sam Morril’s Style

• Neither Savior Nor Villain
  • Sam is reluctant to be crowned a hero by either 'side', preferring to just “tell jokes.”
  • “I don’t want to get praise where you think I’m something I’m not. I have no problem with anybody, until a person is an asshole on their own basis.” —Sam Morril [84:40]

5. Personal Stories & the Making of a Comedian

• Sam’s Roots in Stand-Up
  • Driven by the desire to rely on himself, avoid unreliable “teams,” and the thrill of “island” performance (34:00).
  • “I respected that in tennis players… It’s make or break, it’s all you. That’s the life of a comic.” —Sam Morril [33:47]
• Childhood, Family, and Becoming the 'Fun' Guy
  • Early home dynamics made him the “cockblock” and class clown, chasing attention as the “fun drunk uncle.” [73:01–77:13]

6. Comedy Craft & Testing the Limits

• Push and Pull with Audiences
  • Both relish the “sadistic” side of seeing how far a joke can go before losing the audience [14:48].
  • “You want to see the furthest you can possibly go. When you have a joke, you stretch it as far as you can take it.” —Sam Morril [14:55]
• Bombing and Risk
  • Accepting that even the best can bomb is part of the job (“Chappelle taught me…”) [49:46]
  • Making jokes in the “wrong” place—like local news—deliberately pushing boundaries (80:03)

7. COVID, Social Change, and Comedy’s Healing Role

• NYC COVID Stories
  • Both reflect on the haunted experience of early-pandemic New York, deserted streets, and comedy shows on rooftops to “keep going” [41:45–43:13].
  • “People needed to laugh… That joke wasn’t even that good, but that guy needed to laugh. That’s why I had a hard time telling if it was good, I think people like, wanted.” —Sam Morril [42:29]
• Society's Missed Mourning Period
  • Trevor: “I think a lot of people were crying [when the Queen died] because they didn’t get to cry about COVID.” [44:56]

8. Generational & Cultural Shifts in Outrage and Consensus

• Rage-Bait & Loss of Nuance
  • “People call it rage bait. If you say ‘The Sopranos sucked,’ people engage because it’s more dramatic.” —Sam Morril [47:58]
• Everything Is for or Against 'My Side'
  • Modern culture no longer permits neutral preferences—everything is a tribal loss or victory [48:12–48:48].

9. Writing, Touring, and the Workaholic Comedian Life

• Tour Bus Life
  • Sam extols the tour bus over flights—“I sleep like a baby when the bus is moving” [24:49]—including accidentally traumatic incidents involving hot chicken and illicit bus bathroom use [25:04].
• Balancing Art and Hustle
  • Both warn against the American trap of “more, more, more”—not wanting to lose joy for the sake of money [109:22].
  • “America is the land of more. The economic powerhouse because of it, but also full of burnout because of it.” —Trevor Noah [109:34]
• Keeping Stand-Up as the Core
  • Movie/TV pursuits, but “stand-up will be base” (111:12).

10. On Offensive Bits, Crowd Dynamics & Craft Choices

• Deciding When to Drop a Joke
  • “The batting average has to be high enough that I’m not keeping it just to be stubborn... If it doesn’t work, something’s wrong with it.” —Sam Morril [86:56]
• Crowd Differences (Oklahoma vs NYC, etc.)
  • Some bits kill in one place, bomb the next. Touring helps find what’s “bulletproof” [90:36].
• Science of Jokes
  • Comedy as science: change a word, change the reaction [55:49]
  • “We are running experiments up there” —Trevor Noah [55:57]

11. Great Movie Recommendations

• Sam’s Personal Film Picks:

  • The Big Heat (1953)
  • Double Indemnity (1944)
  • Out of the Past (1947)
  • A Simple Plan (1998)
  • Fargo (1996)

  “Scripts are airtight… For a movie to stand the test of time, the writing has to be so tight, the themes universal.” —Sam Morril [112:54]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On What Makes Comedy Work
  “A laughing jury is not a hanging jury.” —Trevor Noah [04:44]

• On the Art/Craft Division
  “A lot of chefs will call themselves cooks... and a lot of cooks will call themselves chefs.” —Trevor Noah [05:26]

• On Outrage Culture/Fake Division
  “Now it always means something—it’s always a win or loss for your side. I remember when people were allowed to just not like something, but not say it was shit.” —Trevor Noah [47:17]

• On 'Reluctant Hero' Status
  “I feel like Sam... you are one of the final bastions of comedy right now.” —Trevor Noah [49:24]
  “I just don’t want to get praise where you think I’m something I’m not… I’m literally just making jokes.” —Sam Morril [84:40]

• On Joke Freedom and Tech
  “Comics writing for the algorithm... That's what worries me.” —Sam Morril [95:03]

• On America and 'More'
  “If you can do 50 dates, why not 60? Why not 70? It’s the land of more.” —Trevor Noah [109:34]

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• 05:18 – Is stand-up “art,” and why Sam resists the label.
• 08:34 – Instant feedback versus the “focus group” process in other arts.
• 12:32 – When audiences aren’t ready for a punchline: “the unresolved bit.”
• 27:34 – Bizarre digression into airplane bathroom waste disposal.
• 33:47 – Why Sam chose stand-up (the solitary, “tennis player” appeal).
• 41:45 – Comedy during COVID: Rooftops, outdoor shows, and social focus.
• 48:12–48:48 – Tribalization of pop culture and the “side-taking” problem.
• 54:42 – The science/experimentation of jokes and why punchlines sometimes fail.
• 86:56 – Sam on how to decide a controversial joke’s future.
• 95:03 – Algorithms/tech companies changing joke writing, not 'cancel culture.'
• 112:03 – Sam’s top five old and new noir movies.
• 109:22 – The trap of doing “more” in America versus sustaining joy in comedy.

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Sample Highlighted Exchange

Trevor Noah [12:02]:
“Oftentimes in comedy, the punchline has to release you from reality... If the punchline brings you back to reality and a reality that you haven’t resolved, audiences aren’t happy.”

Sam Morril [12:47]:
“So I’m reminding them of something that they’re like, what do we do? Yes, that’s interesting. That’s a good observation. I never thought of it that way.”

Sam Morril [95:03]:
“Comics will start writing for the algorithm. That’s what worries me—that jokes will be written for some AI, not for people.”

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Conclusion & Episode Takeaways

This episode is a rich, sharp, and laugh-packed masterclass in comedy’s evolving landscape. Trevor and Sam dissect modern outrage, the loss of nuance, and the “art” of taking risks, all while reinforcing why live comedy remains irreplaceable. Sam’s perspective—never pandering, always searching for the funny in hardship—serves as a model in a hyper-tribalized era, and his concrete craft talk will fascinate aspiring comics and longtime fans alike.

For further listening:

• Check out Sam at Carnegie Hall, December 4, or sammorril.com
• Film buffs: Track down Sam’s recommendations, especially The Big Heat and Fargo.

Final notes:
Comedy is still alive, dangerous, and essential—a place for all sides when the mic is truly open.

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Transcript

[Sam Morrill]

He's one of my favorite all time comedians. Give it up for Mr. Sam Morant.

[Trevor Noah]

There's a lot going on with you.

[Sam Morrill]

You just came out with your sixth stand up special.

[Trevor Noah]

Since 2020, he's worked with comics like Conan Colbert. He has a Netflix special, Same time Tomorrow that tackles everything from awkward conversations to America's gun epidemic.

[Sam Morrill]

Still do morning news just to ruin the segments. I do it all the time. You did a good one in Columbus. Tell us what we can expect with that. I'm going to talk about the human trafficking epidemic in Columbus, Ohio. What is going on with the human trafficking? What are you talk. I just kept making up that they had a human trafficking problem in Columbus and the guy lost it on me. Is this a joke?

[Eugene Causa]

Are you trying to be funny?

[Sam Morrill]

What are you trying to do? We'll be right back. Wait, I was just trying to explain. The audience just saw the same thing too. Okay, we'll go to break.

[Trevor Noah]

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[Sam Morrill]

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[Eugene Causa]

You ran here.

[Trevor Noah]

Were you running here?

[Sam Morrill]

I walk at a brisk pace.

[Trevor Noah]

New York.

[Sam Morrill]

I hate to be late to anything. And I was like, if I don't walk at a brisk pace, I'm going to be late. And I was like, you can't cab it at this time either. So it's like I was like, I.

[Trevor Noah]

Got to walk it, but no city bike.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, dude, I can't ride a bike.

[Trevor Noah]

Where like at all.

[Sam Morrill]

I can, but I'm so bad on a bike. My, my balance sucks. I'm also scared of the bikers in this city. They're so reckless in the bike lane that I don't want to get.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but you don't need to worry about them when you wanted them.

[Sam Morrill]

I do worry about them because I would do it during COVID like on the west side highway and they were fucking terrifying.

[Eugene Causa]

Just not to anymore.

[Sam Morrill]

No, Yeah, I can. I'm a bad dude.

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[Sam Morrill]

I'm. My motor skills are terrible. I can. I can drive. I have a driver's license, but I shouldn't have one. I saw. I don't drive. Out of respect for people. I don't drive.

[Trevor Noah]

You know what? You know what I've always found interesting about driver's license is. Or anything that requires you to pass a singular test? I always think it's fucking crazy. Like, there's crucial things out there, you know, like, doctor, pilot. All pilots are actually better. Cause you have to do, like, multiple hours. They go prove that you can fly for a bunch.

[Eugene Causa]

Yes.

[Trevor Noah]

At some point with certain jobs, it's just like. Did you pass the test? Yeah. Okay. You're good forever.

[Sam Morrill]

Yes, I know.

[Trevor Noah]

Did you pass your driving test? Yeah, one time.

[Sam Morrill]

I failed the first two also.

[Trevor Noah]

You see that to me, pathetic. For me, that means. I think for.

[Eugene Causa]

You failed the first two.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, it was. It's kind of hard in the city. Honestly, it's terrible.

[Trevor Noah]

Have you done a driving to New York City? First of all, they don't do them in the city. Like, city city.

[Sam Morrill]

I did two in the Bronx, and then one was in, like, the suburbs. But Bronx was hard.

[Trevor Noah]

No, it's terrible.

[Sam Morrill]

It wasn't easy. I mean, I suck too.

[Eugene Causa]

But wait, so there's the first part where they. They let you drive at the traffic department in South Africa. That's how it works.

[Trevor Noah]

No, we don't have that.

[Eugene Causa]

You drive in the traffic department first.

[Sam Morrill]

No. Then the guy says, let's go to the streets. It was like, where was it? It was in Bronx. Like, no, it was like. It felt like very urban. It was like, city, for sure.

[Trevor Noah]

No, no, there's no. Yeah, we. They don't have that. What we have, you go straight to the street.

[Eugene Causa]

I really wait till you failed the first one.

[Sam Morrill]

My. My rest of my family couldn't understand it. My brother's like, you failed. I was like, yeah, I'm not good. I don't know.

[Eugene Causa]

What did you do wrong? What did. The guy said?

[Sam Morrill]

Everything again. It wasn't one thing. They were just like, you're just bad at this. It wasn't like one thing. I wish it was one thing. I suck.

[Eugene Causa]

I'm terrible instructor. Like, you're just better at this walk.

[Sam Morrill]

That was what it was, dude. I was like, this is. I was an embarrassment. Oh, man.

[Eugene Causa]

Wait, so first time. Second, third time.

[Sam Morrill]

Third time, I made the woman laugh out of the gate, and she was like, she just liked me. She was like, oh, he's cool. Whatever. I shouldn't have been. I saw that's what she thought. I should be 0 for 3. But she. I made her laugh, and she was like, just cool.

[Trevor Noah]

I don't know.

[Sam Morrill]

I mean, not a good.

[Trevor Noah]

What is that? The laughing jury is not a hanging jury. Oh, yeah, that's the saying.

[Sam Morrill]

Is that really a saying?

[Trevor Noah]

You don't know that saying?

[Sam Morrill]

No.

[Eugene Causa]

Oh, the jury laughed a couple of times in Didi's trial.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. But they didn't hang him.

[Eugene Causa]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Sam Morrill]

A laughing jury is not a hanging jury.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, it's not a hanging jury.

[Sam Morrill]

Not a hanging jury.

[Trevor Noah]

That's an old saying.

[Sam Morrill]

I've never heard that.

[Trevor Noah]

For real?

[Eugene Causa]

For real.

[Trevor Noah]

No, for real. They say, like, I always loved that for standup because I always thought the art. And it's funny. I don't even say this just because you're here. The art of being, like, the best comedian is doing what you do, where you go. You've got the jury to laugh, but you committed the crime. Mm.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, geez. I never call it an art. Stand up. I think it's, like, entertainment. I think it's art.

[Trevor Noah]

You don't call it an art.

[Sam Morrill]

I get, like, cringey. Cause I feel like we're. Cause we're. It's a pretentious way to describe. And what we do is so unpretentious, you know?

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. And I think you're right about that. But it's the same way, like, a lot of chefs will call themselves cooks.

[Eugene Causa]

And a lot of cooks will call themselves chefs.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

They'll be like, whoa, whoa, hold on. Your diners drives in and dies. There's no Michelin here. Just lad.

[Trevor Noah]

No, but it's true. If you think about it.

[Sam Morrill]

It's like we're running like a diner.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but that's my point. But I'm going.

[Sam Morrill]

You.

[Trevor Noah]

I understand why you wouldn't want to call it an art or an art form or any of that, but it has all of the exact same principles. Let me put it this way. If you. If you got into a room with, like, a painter, like, you know, a fancy painter and a musician, anyone else who's in the arts, no one was allowed to tell each other what they do. Yeah, Right. And then each of you has to describe the trials and tribulations of what you do. So you go, man, I. I've got to put myself out there, and I've got to create these ideas and Hope people like it. And then half of the time they don't. And then I feel like shit and I try it again. And then sometimes they like it, but they didn't used to like it. And then all of a sudden it's popular. And sometimes I'm dead by the time it's popular. And then, you know, it's popular. People wouldn't know what you do. They'd be like, are you. Are you a painter? Are you a.

[Sam Morrill]

That's true. But instant feedback does. That's what separates us, right? You write a screenplay. You're like, I don't know. You write a book. You don't know. You don't know till it's maybe an editor's like, this is not good. But I think. I think people get older. That's why you always hear Tarantino say, like, I'm done at 10. Because I think some critics will praise work of older directors where it's not their best work, but they're kind of grandfathered in.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Where like, no, that wasn't a good movie. But they're like, it's 95% on rotten tomatoes. And you're like, but that sucked. But they're just in. You know.

[Eugene Causa]

Explain that. Grandfathered in.

[Sam Morrill]

Like, they, they were great. So they're people. They're remembering a time when they were great. And now where did.

[Trevor Noah]

Grandfather didn't come from?

[Sam Morrill]

God, please don't say it has like a racist history. No, I'm like, what is grand? According to Google, It's. It's from American slavery. I'm like, oh, boy. Oh, geez.

[Eugene Causa]

Oh, man.

[Sam Morrill]

But I do think, like, no, I hope it is, you know, if you're slipping, because the audience will tell you if you're slipping.

[Trevor Noah]

I think grandfather didn't. If. I guess. Yeah, it's probably about. I think it's passports, probably. I think there's something. Something around. Something in the. Or maybe before passports even is like, your grandfather was the reason you could get into a college. Or. Or your grandfather was here so you can get into this institution so you get grandfathered in. My grandfather came. Legacy. That's.

[Sam Morrill]

And I think that.

[Trevor Noah]

I'm guessing I'm not going to look it up, cuz I prefer to guess this shit, which is more fun.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

And Sam, what is your theory about slavery?

[Sam Morrill]

I think it's slavery. I think I just. I. I really upset a lot of listeners. I'm sorry. But.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. Okay, that's interesting. So you don't. So that's the part where you think it Separates. Separates it from arms.

[Sam Morrill]

Well, yeah. Instant feedback. You kind of know, I mean, that's the thing too, is we focus test our stuff more than anyone else. You know, you go to the Cellar, you go on the road. Is this funny? Scorsese is like, this is the movie. This is it. I don't think those guys. Maybe you focus test if you make a comedy movie a little. If you see what scene.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

I heard that Jordan Peele with Get out, he had a different ending, a darker ending, and. And people hated it. So he changed the ending. Like, originally, in the ending, he doesn't get out.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, shit.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. In the original movie, yeah, Lil Rel's character in the original, he doesn't get out. And people were like, this fucking sucks. We don't want him to lose.

[Eugene Causa]

We want him to get out.

[Sam Morrill]

It's like a more artsy ending. But I think you're just rooting for him so hard at that point that you're just like, nah, he's gotta get out.

[Trevor Noah]

You know? So this is something I've struggled with philosophically. I've. I sometimes wonder if Hollywood has made people less resilient in life because it's conditioned us to believe that there are always happy endings.

[Sam Morrill]

Well, there was that movie that just came out, and I'm sorry if I'm spoiling it, but, you know, they made. I think it was Danish, the original Speak no Evil. Yeah, remember that one? Yeah, the Danish version. And I'm sorry, if it's not Danish, it's from that part of the world. But they don't get offended on that side.

[Trevor Noah]

You're good.

[Sam Morrill]

You're good. The movie is so fucked up. And it's like the darkest ending you'll ever see. And then they made an American version, or maybe it was James Mat, maybe it was British, I don't know. But came out in America. And I was like, this is. This is like a happy ending.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, it's a happy ending.

[Sam Morrill]

I enjoyed both. But, yeah, I mean, there's something to be said. Like, I don't know. Like, yeah, we're conditioned for that. You're right.

[Trevor Noah]

Every single fairy tale, almost every single. But I think every single fairy tale that we know of from Disney was rewritten from a fairy tale that had a grim ending. I think it was the Brothers Grim, but it was like they all, like. And I don't know which one did what, but, like, apparently, like, Snow White just dies in the one. And then Cinderella doesn't.

[Sam Morrill]

Like, people still get offended about. People were still mad A couple years ago about kissing like she. They kiss a past. That woman in Snow White. That was like a big thing.

[Eugene Causa]

The same people that are worried about a past, that woman being kissed were not worried about a teenage girl going on a voyage on a catamaran by herself in the Atlantic Ocean.

[Trevor Noah]

Who, Moana?

[Eugene Causa]

Yes. People were like, chicken, pig, good luck.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but she was fine. What do you mean, my man?

[Eugene Causa]

It's hard when you let your child go to school, when you see them walking away. But why?

[Trevor Noah]

Why are you worried?

[Sam Morrill]

So were people offended by that or. No?

[Eugene Causa]

No. I'm saying.

[Trevor Noah]

No, he's saying they didn't care.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, yeah. But I feel like they get every movie that. Every Disney movie, people were like, they've gone. I didn't see the Buzz Lightyear one because I've seen enough of the Toy Story movies. I liked them. I thought they were great, but I'm like, I'm good. I'm. They had like. I didn't see the Snow White one. I tried to joke about this. It did not work at all. What was the joke?

[Trevor Noah]

Let's try to fix it. We got it.

[Sam Morrill]

I don't. I don't think it's fixable. I like it. I think it's good.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, then it doesn't work.

[Sam Morrill]

But So I say, what do you mean doesn't work? It doesn't work. And it doesn't work, like, anywhere. I feel like both sides are like.

[Eugene Causa]

So I say.

[Sam Morrill]

So my angle was how they're like, Snow White, you know, I didn't see the Snow White movie. It. They say, I'm at the Target demo, obviously, but I didn't see it. And they say, bomb, because it was woke. And I was like, well, let's make some non woke and Disney classic. So my idea was the Little Mermaid, but instead of. Instead of looking for a prince, she just does a bunch of swim meets. And the whole movie is dads who are like, my daughter's got to compete against this shit. She's not a girl, she's a fish. It's not fair.

[Trevor Noah]

That's a great premise.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. He didn't say joke. He said premise.

[Trevor Noah]

No, that's a great premise, though.

[Eugene Causa]

It's going somewhere.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, it's going.

[Sam Morrill]

It's going somewhere. I like the idea that it's like.

[Eugene Causa]

Yes.

[Sam Morrill]

Wait, wait. Is rational. It does make sense that a dad. But also, I feel like I'm kind of. Is it making fun of both sides? I don't know why it's not working. It's.

[Trevor Noah]

What? Okay, I'll tell you why I think it's not working. Yeah, I'll tell you why I think it's not working. Sometimes I find with comedy, the reason a joke won't work is not because the joke doesn't work. It's because the people are still dealing with the current release of the joke. So they can't. The punchline. So oftentimes in comedy, the punchline has to release you from reality. Oftentimes. Right. But if the. If the punchline of the joke brings you back to reality and a reality that you haven't resolved, audiences aren't happy. So you didn't let them get out in that joke.

[Sam Morrill]

I didn't. Jordan Peele it, dude.

[Eugene Causa]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

They'll get a house.

[Trevor Noah]

Do you get what I'm saying? Cause think about it. You went, it's a joke about the mermaid. She's swimming with other girls. Parents are complaining. She's.

[Eugene Causa]

Oh.

[Trevor Noah]

And it's like, oh. And it's. Trans. People are like, ah, fuck, we haven't even figured that out yet. Ah, I don't know how I.

[Sam Morrill]

Right. So I'm reminding them of something that they're like, what do we do? Yes, that's interesting. That's a good observation. I never thought of it that way. That's a very good observation.

[Trevor Noah]

I used to have a joke, like, back in the day, when I first came to America, I had this joke about how the premise was basically whoever invented Santa Claus was the same person who invented Osama bin Laden. Because I was like. You know, when I was like, writers run out of ideas and they just thought, you know, people make the same songs. People make the same. So I was like, whoever made Santa Claus made Osama bin Laden. I can tell it's the same. It was a lazy. It's like the same reused premise. Got a beard, got, like a weird little costume. They're like in a cave with their helpers.

[Sam Morrill]

They.

[Trevor Noah]

They like pop out once in a while. You don't know where they really are. Was this whole thing. No one laughed.

[Eugene Causa]

It was in September.

[Trevor Noah]

No one laughed. Like. And I could never figure out how to get the joke going. How to get. After they killed bin Laden, that joke murdered everywhere.

[Sam Morrill]

Wow. People would walk a thank you note for that one.

[Trevor Noah]

Can I tell I'm not even jo. I remember.

[Sam Morrill]

Cause I remember just trying to save that joke.

[Trevor Noah]

People were like, yeah, people were laughing hard. They're like, I never thought about that. Yeah, he's got the same. Because I even had the same thing. I had Santa Claus. That was the One that started working the hardest was I said, they even had the same catchphrase. You better watch out.

[Sam Morrill]

That's good.

[Trevor Noah]

And then people were like, nah. After Bin Laden was dead, choke was amazing.

[Sam Morrill]

I love the idea that you're doing. You better watch out. And you're like, this isn't working on 9 12.

[Trevor Noah]

I wonder why.

[Sam Morrill]

I'm just joke kidding, guys. You better watch out. You don't get it. Jesus.

[Eugene Causa]

How about you get out?

[Sam Morrill]

No, it's funny. I like. I always love jokes where you're, like, making the weirdest comparison. You're like, where the hell is this going? Yeah, you know, those are. Those are fun ones because it's fun to watch them. Like, oh, it's fun. That's a fun moment.

[Trevor Noah]

That's the best moment. When you can find an audience. When you can take an audience to a place with you that no one should rationally be in. That's the greatest. That's like. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

That's a sadistic part of being a comic. You want to see how far this can go, where it can go and when it's going to end.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. I mean, you definitely. When you have a joke, you stretch it as possibly far as you can take it.

[Eugene Causa]

Say what you're searching for the cul de sac.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

Gonna drive, drive, drive and go.

[Trevor Noah]

Mm.

[Eugene Causa]

The road is finished shop. See you guys next time.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

So when.

[Sam Morrill]

When you.

[Trevor Noah]

One thing I wanted to chat to with you is like, I go, you are, man. How can I put it? Like, you're one of the most honest comedians I know.

[Sam Morrill]

Gee, thank you, man.

[Trevor Noah]

And what I mean about that is, like, as a human, I don't know you that well, but what I mean by comedian is, as a comedian, you're one of the most honest comedians.

[Sam Morrill]

I care way more about comedy than me as a human. So this is great. That's more important because one time you described me as like. I remember I did the Daily show, and you're like, this guy's a great guy. And I was like, fuck? Does that mean? I'm a hack?

[Trevor Noah]

Jesus.

[Sam Morrill]

Whenever a comic calls you nice, you're like, ugh.

[Trevor Noah]

No, no, but I mean, that was like, great person.

[Sam Morrill]

No, no, I know. I'm fucking with you.

[Trevor Noah]

No, but. Cause I mean. I mean, you gotta remember, I have. I had an interesting perspective meeting people. Eugene had a similar thing. Is that, like, when you come from random places in the world and you meet comedians in the biggest places in the world, they don't have to be nice to You. They don't even have to, like, acknowledge you in that way. So you'll meet some people who are just dicks because they see no value in you as a person. And then you meet people where you go, oh, shit, it's that guy. And you like some random. Because remember, as an. Let's say, as an African, a lot of the time when we first get somewhere, we might not even realize how African we are or aren't being in that moment. So we arrive somewhere and we're going like, well, hello, my friend. And then what they're saying is like, oh, hello, hello. You know what I mean?

[Sam Morrill]

That's. I didn't see that.

[Trevor Noah]

But I'm not saying. I'm not trying to trap you, Sam. I'm not trying to trap you.

[Sam Morrill]

You're just trying to call me racist on this podcast. God damn it.

[Trevor Noah]

I'm not trying to trap you.

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No.

[Trevor Noah]

But what I'm saying is we often take for granted how we're perceived versus how we perceive ourselves, right? So you show up as an African in some places, you are so random to the people you show up to that it becomes way more apparent who is and isn't, like, just. Just a nice person in that way. You. You. One of the instances I remember was Joseph Opioh, comedian friend of ours. You might have met him, you might not. He's from Uganda. He's one of the quirkiest human beings you've ever met in your life, right? He basically did the Daily show of Uganda by himself, wrote it, the whole thing. He's the most abnormal human being you've ever met, right? Amazing guy. I remember seeing him at the Comedy Cellar. Nobody knew who he was. I didn't know who he was. Right. And he walked up to Louis CK after Louis had just been on stage, and he was like, ah, excuse me, Mr. Louis, can I offer you a few tags? I noticed that you were. That you sat there and I remember thinking, oh, God, this is. It's. This is not gonna end well. And Louis looked at him and he was like, oh, yeah, what? And he talked to him and he's like, oh, shit. Yeah, I didn't think of that. And he took the tag and he, like, engaged. Whether or not Louis was just being nice or taking it, actually, I didn't care. I remember just going, man, that's a cool dude. Do you get what I'm saying?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, No, I love that. Louis that way. I think most comics at the Cellar, first off, I. It's always weird. Do people know what tags Are, by the way. It's like, you know.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, yeah, a tag.

[Sam Morrill]

How many people listening even know? It's like the end of a joke. Like one more line at the end of a joke.

[Trevor Noah]

But yeah, it's an extra. It's a.

[Sam Morrill]

But Louis gave me a tag once, and I remember being like, it took a joke from here to here. It's a joke that I used to have a joke where I said, you know, I don't even remember if I'm going to butcher it. But it was like I said, I think women look at sex like buying a car, where they're like, can I see myself in this long term? Is it safe? Is it reliable? You know? And then men look at sex like, park in a car. Like, there's a spot, there's another spot. Oh, I have to pay. Never mind. And then the line Louis gave me was handicapped. Yeah, what the hell? I hope no one sees this. So Louis took it over the top. I was like, it was already killing. But then he gave me that one extra line. I was like, oh, shit. And end up doing that joke in the movie Joker. I did, like, 20 jokes, but he was like, oh, that's perfect. And I was like, all right. But Louis gave me that line. Yeah, I already had a handicapped angle. I tried, but. Hope no one sees this. Just perfect amount of words. There's certain things you can't substitute word choice for.

[Trevor Noah]

No, you can't.

[Sam Morrill]

So, yeah, Louis, I love, like, pure comics. Cause he'll watch and he'll be like, oh, what if you did this? Like, he's so interested in jokes. I love. So when you say, like, comics are nice to each other. Cause that's the language we speak is jokes.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but that's. I don't think that that's. I don't think that's the case as much as it was before. Partially because I think stand up comedy became stand up comedy for a long time was the bastard child of entertainment.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, right.

[Trevor Noah]

It doesn't matter where you're from in the world. There was always like, oh, and the comedians. And then in many countries, comedy started having this ascendancy.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, yeah. When porn stars started doing stand up, I'm like, we're the last stop. The hell? You went from that to this.

[Eugene Causa]

Which porn star was this?

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, well, Stormy Daniels was one. There's been a few. I don't want to name too many names.

[Trevor Noah]

Stand up.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. There was a brief.

[Trevor Noah]

I like how you said, like, I don't want to embarrass them. I don't want to expose their stuff.

[Sam Morrill]

Well, yeah, I don't want to spoil their porn careers. Let's be real. They come off better in the other videos. So, you know, come on. At least they're good at that, you know, shit.

[Trevor Noah]

But this is what I mean is like stand up comedy used to be the bossly child of entertainment. Then Netflix comes along. You know, there's like a boom that you see where all of a sudden it's a gold rush.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

And now comedy is not like an afterthought. Comedy is the thing. And comedy has waves. Don't get me wrong. You know, there's periods where like, the comedy clubs die and improvs are doing bad and blah, blah. But then comedy comes up again and then people are back on tv, they're in movies, et cetera. And I'm saying in some of those waves, you'll meet comedians where you go, oh, this comedian doesn't care necessarily about comedy, but he sees comedy as the perfect vehicle to get them into acting, being famous in some other way. And then there's comedians who love comedians. And I find those comedians are generally just great people. That's what I meant by you. You just. I've never met somebody who is as good and loves comedy as you do, genuinely.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, thank you, man. Geez, that means a lot.

[Trevor Noah]

You're like a full on.

[Eugene Causa]

He's a full time comedian.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, you are. Thank you, man. I love stand up, man. I love jokes. So, I mean, I probably spend too much time at the Cellar. Like, I've definitely had those moments where I'm like, I gotta do other stuff. I remember Chris Rock once said to me, he's like, you gotta go out and live. Your audience is living. You have to have stuff to talk about. And I was like, oh, yeah. You can't just be like. So I got off stage the other night. That can't be like the setup to jokes. You have to go do stuff. I hate vacations. I hate, like, I don't like. It's hard for me to shut off. I went to. I was like, I'll go on a vacation. I want to get on a plane. I'll go to Lake Placid for two days. I'll disappear with three days with my friend. We just went there and just chilled. We're like, we'll paddle board. I was miserable. The current took me. I could. I had to like. I had to like, swim to the side and hitchhike back to the place I was staying. Really? Yeah, I was. I. I came back Early. I hate it. I'm like, I need the city. I need the energy of the city. I don't know. I'm bad.

[Trevor Noah]

And then back in the club.

[Sam Morrill]

I'll take nights off the clubs now. And I'm touring a lot, so, like, I do. And I'll spend an extra day in the city. I'm like, let me experience the city, too. Cause I did the tour bus the first part of the year.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, yeah, you one of those. Oh, man. I remember you tried to convince me on this, and. I did.

[Eugene Causa]

I.

[Trevor Noah]

You did. You did. So it was a real bus Sam loved. I mean, you explain it, because I'm not gonna sell it well, so I want you to.

[Sam Morrill]

Well, I don't need to sell it to be. I mean, I don't want to sell it too hard. People take them. I don't get a bus. You know, they're hard to get. These are hot properties.

[Eugene Causa]

These properties.

[Trevor Noah]

I said to Sam one day, I was complaining. I was not even complaining. I was just like, oh, man, I'm tired. Because I was flying around. It's like, you know, you gotta get to the airport, and you get to the next airport. Then the thing drops you off. And then Sam went, oh, man. I just ride on the bus. So the first thing I thought was, like, a Greyhound. And I was like, damn, this guy loves getting material. That's the first thing I thought. I was like, wow, this guy loves new material.

[Sam Morrill]

No, no, no.

[Trevor Noah]

And then it turned out you were talking about a tour bus, and he's like, no, I get on the bus after the show, sleep in the bus, get to the next place. And then if I remember correctly, you would then go to, like, a. Like, a place where you could play basketball.

[Sam Morrill]

This is every day on the road. So we get off stage. Usually we either go to dinner in town or, like, just get dinner and eat on the bus and watch a movie. I bring a ton of DVDs. I still buy DVDs. Love having DVDs. So that way, if Wi Fi is an issue, you're like, oh, I'll throw in whatever Criterion Edition. And then you watch a movie. They got so mad at me, I made them watch a film noir from the 1950s once. And everyone. And everyone's like, dude, what the fuck? Let me tell you something. By the end, they were like, this is the best movie. It's called the Big Heat. Fritz Lang movie from the 50s. Glenn Ford, fucking incredible revenge movie.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, but they loved it in the end.

[Sam Morrill]

They loved it. It's good.

[Trevor Noah]

You should Give us. Before, at the end of this podcast, you must give us, like, a list.

[Sam Morrill]

Of some old flicks.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

Or maybe we could find a hat. And then you can reignite some of the scenes, film noir style, because you look like you come from that era.

[Sam Morrill]

Who?

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, you do. I thought you remember. I was like, no, you do.

[Sam Morrill]

Well, Fritz Lang, the director, is one of the German Jews who emigrated to America during World War II. But right before the Nazis took over, Goebbels was like, you should be. You should make our movies. You're this great director.

[Trevor Noah]

Was that the guy?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. Yeah. And no, he wasn't the guy. Because Fritz Lang goes, but I'm a Jew. And Goebbels goes, we decide who's Jewish. And he was like. It was that point that I realized I should leave. So he came to America and made a bunch of movies. A bunch of great movies.

[Trevor Noah]

That's insane.

[Eugene Causa]

That moment when he stares into Goebbels.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

You decide. Are you sure? Because that's not what I've read.

[Eugene Causa]

But at that time, Goebbels was undecided about what to have for dinner. He was like, I don't know. Chicken schnitzel. And then he was like, I decided, you. I'm out.

[Trevor Noah]

What a moment.

[Sam Morrill]

So the tour bus is great, though, because we throw in movies. We sleep. You sleep like a baby when the bus is moving. I love when the bus is moving. Cause you forget how. Cause I just sleep in the bunks. I like the bunks.

[Eugene Causa]

How many guys are in this bus?

[Sam Morrill]

Four or five.

[Eugene Causa]

Okay.

[Sam Morrill]

And yeah, I rock to sleep. I love it. So I'm a big fan of the bus. And then you wake up in the city and we hit like a YMCA or a rec center, play basketball. Some of these Y's are nice. Now you get a little sauna action.

[Trevor Noah]

Listen to this guy.

[Sam Morrill]

I love it.

[Eugene Causa]

There's a toilet in the bus.

[Trevor Noah]

Do you see what I mean by selling it?

[Sam Morrill]

You can pee. You can't poop on the bus.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, that's a rule. You can physically, but all tour buses. Sort of like an agreed upon rule.

[Sam Morrill]

The guy I had, Jeff is the man. I love Jeff. He's. He's a bus driver. And he was like. I said, give me the names who have pooped on the bus. And he was like, tom Segura. I said, segura pooped on the bus. He goes, yeah, he hotboxed it. He put it in a. And my camera guy, also, he did poop on the bus. I was furious at him. I was like, dude, you got. Because we were in Nashville, and it's my fault. I was like, let's get hot chicken. It's Nashville. Oh, my goodness. My camera guy is like a jacked giant dude who eats like four hot chickens. I was like, dude, I don't care how big you are, you're gonna hot boxes. The bus had to. I made him like. I was like, dude, you gotta go to a gas station, you gotta throw that out. You can't make the driver throw that out.

[Trevor Noah]

Damn. Well, he emptied it out himself, like, physically.

[Sam Morrill]

He put it in garbage bags. They would do it. This is gnarly.

[Eugene Causa]

Wait, how does it work?

[Sam Morrill]

They would poop in a garbage bag.

[Eugene Causa]

In an airplane kind of flies through the sky and it lands on whoever.

[Trevor Noah]

No, what are you talking about, man? They got a container.

[Eugene Causa]

Okay.

[Sam Morrill]

Really?

[Trevor Noah]

You think planes are just like.

[Sam Morrill]

Honestly, I thought the same thing. I'm gonna be honest. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Cause I figured it would disintegrate before it came down, right?

[Trevor Noah]

You think that they just spray shit.

[Eugene Causa]

Is when the plane opens underneath and goes.

[Trevor Noah]

Wait, no, wait, really?

[Sam Morrill]

No, I really thought I was.

[Trevor Noah]

I hope that my version is real, because the way I thought, I thought there was a container.

[Eugene Causa]

Listen to this song.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, that's the. Like, they're using a vacuum to pull the. You think planes are just spring.

[Sam Morrill]

I, I, I thought that sounded.

[Trevor Noah]

We need to find.

[Sam Morrill]

But you seem confident, and I don't.

[Trevor Noah]

No, no, no, no, no. Now you are both this confidence. Yeah, no, I'm not confident.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, okay. Yeah, I think. I think it goes into the air.

[Trevor Noah]

Just sprays shit into the air.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. That's our revenge on the birds, dude. We get one right on their head. Get them back. That's what I thought. I don't know.

[Trevor Noah]

You know, when did the cycle start? Those are the types of things. Those are the premises that I like. I go, what if we were the ones who first shot on the birds? And the birds are like, okay, we're gonna gather. Okay, we got you for the rest of time.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, man. It's a bad feeling when you go on a plane. It really is.

[Eugene Causa]

You don't like being on a plane?

[Sam Morrill]

No, I love. I don't mind flying, but having to poop on a plane is one of the worst feelings. You just feel. You feel dirty. I travel with wipes. I don't like being dirty. I felt horrible coming in here. Sweaty. I don't like it. I don't know.

[Trevor Noah]

But dirty. Sweaty's not dirty.

[Sam Morrill]

I guess not.

[Trevor Noah]

You just don't like the idea of being, like, in a prim state. You want to be as. What is it? Is it?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, you just want to feel clean. I don't know. You want to feel. If I'm traveling, I want to feel good. I think that's why I do the bus. I feel good if I do it that way, you know?

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, no, I don't like the bus thing because you. I don't like waking up somewhere else. Somewhere else. And now I can't just shower. Like, I have to get out to then go and shower. It's. It's like.

[Sam Morrill]

So you start your day with a shower.

[Trevor Noah]

Wait, you don't.

[Sam Morrill]

No.

[Eugene Causa]

That'S the airplane toilet.

[Trevor Noah]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You don't start your day with a shower?

[Sam Morrill]

Usually not, but I. I'll usually I'll, like, go to the gym or something or I'll like, I'll do an afternoon shower. Like an afternoon.

[Trevor Noah]

Okay, wait, wait, you mean like off the activity and. Okay, I thought you were saying you just like, you don't shower until nighttime?

[Sam Morrill]

No. Yeah, Usually before that.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, no, no, that's fine. That's fine. You do stuff and then you.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

What I'll do is I will shower, then maybe go to the gym and everything and then. Cause I don't like going to the gym and not knowing if that smell is coming from my gym.

[Sam Morrill]

Like, you shower pre gym?

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, my God, no.

[Trevor Noah]

Because I don't know if this effort that I'm exerting is causing this smell. I like to know.

[Sam Morrill]

Do you go to, like, a public gym?

[Eugene Causa]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

What gym? We could bleep it, right?

[Trevor Noah]

No, no. Ours is not even like a name. It's like a public gym people go to.

[Sam Morrill]

It's a prison gym.

[Trevor Noah]

No, I don't want them to care. No, I just. Why do you care?

[Eugene Causa]

This is the one place where you're going to sweat and come out smelly. Why do you want to go in looking fresh?

[Trevor Noah]

Okay, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, I also think that's a little strange. We're really teaming up on him here. This episode, the pooping. This.

[Trevor Noah]

I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. The bus, number one. I don't like it when people leave any type of sten on the leather of the seats and, you know, the work I put.

[Eugene Causa]

Don't you put a towel and don't you come.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but I don't like that. They leave a smell. I don't like that.

[Eugene Causa]

Trevor, what must they leave.

[Trevor Noah]

That's my point. I don't like. I'm not saying that they should or shouldn't. I'm saying I don't like that they leave. So for me, I do not wish to be a leaver, okay? I don't want to do that. I also don't like it when, like, people are smelling up a place. So I think to myself, let me not be contributing to the smell of this place. I can shower before I come here and then I'll shower when I'm done with the workout. And the post workout shower is a quick one because you've already, like, washed the bacteria off. All you're really doing is like a quick super rinse with a bit of soap and you're done.

[Sam Morrill]

He's considerate. He's a considerate guy.

[Eugene Causa]

I think if the shower's gonna be shorter, it should be the first one.

[Trevor Noah]

No, because you slept the whole night.

[Eugene Causa]

When you've actually worked out.

[Sam Morrill]

So you're getting dirty sleeping.

[Trevor Noah]

You don't get dirty sleeping. What are you doing in your sleep?

[Sam Morrill]

Hold on. No, you're probably right, guys.

[Trevor Noah]

You're sweating the whole night.

[Eugene Causa]

Wait, so when you wake up, the morning shower is the one where you put the most effort? More soap, more.

[Trevor Noah]

Exactly.

[Sam Morrill]

Do you shower again before you go out at night? If you're going out somewhere, Sometimes.

[Trevor Noah]

It depends on how humid the day was. If it's not humid, then no, because I'm just conscious of my sweat. But if I. If I was like, brisk walk, hot day, I'll shower before, before I go out. Just like, why are you taking it on to the next thing? This is not about me. This is about Sam, though. We'll be right back after the short break. This message is brought to you by Apple Card. Did you know that Apple Card is designed to help you pay off your balance faster with smart payment suggestions? And because fees don't help you, Apple Card doesn't have any. That's right. No fees. So if your credit card isn't Apple Card, maybe it should be subject to credit approval. Apple Card issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA, Salt Lake City Branch. Variable APRs for Apple Card range from 17.99% to 28.24% based on creditworthiness rates as of October 1, 2025. Existing customers can view their variable APR in the wallet app or card.apple.com terms and [e-mail].

[Sam Morrill]

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[Trevor Noah]

What. What got you. I want to know, like, what got you into stand up? And not like, who got you in or like, what was the thing? Because you kept on, you kept on saying, I love stand up, I love stand up, I love stand up. And it shows. But like, what do you think is the thing that like got you into like stand up, stand up and not being funny and not funny movies and like stand up specifically?

[Sam Morrill]

I think like just I played some team sports growing up, but our school really sucked at basketball, so everyone was on drugs and they were terrible. And I was like, I was pissed. I took it seriously. And we just always lost cause everyone and I was like, this is bullshit. So I was like, I can't do like improv. I can't do a team sport. So I was like, I'll do a thing where I rely on myself and stand up. I was like, it's like, that's like, you know, the tennis or golf, you know, that's what standup is. It's all on. I always respect tennis players. Cause I remember reading Agassiz's book, and he just talks about, like, how you're on an island and it's make or break. It's all you. And I kind of like, tennis players kind of just have breakdowns. You know, they'll just snap. Like, you'll just see them, like, breaking a racket or losing it. I'm like, oh, that's like. They're kind of the head cases because they're in isolation, you know, I don't know. I always. I respected that about them, that they have to kind of just live in their head. And that's kind of the life of a comic. But that can be painful. Just watching the Billy Joel documentary. And I noticed this about comics, too. Like, he would disappear to write his new album, and it would make him crazy. And he was like, I have to get fucking hammered. I have to just get so drunk. Because so many of his songs were coming from just him doing bad behavior, you know, like, oh, yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

Him just.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, he drove home drunk on a motorcycle, and his wife was like, are you a lunatic? And that became the song. Like, you may be right. I may be crazy, but I just might be the lunatic you're looking for. That's from driving drunk on a motorcycle. And it's like. It's amazing that he took that and made that something. I don't know. I just think, like, I guess I'm given a really long answer here, but I think I like that. I like that it was all.

[Trevor Noah]

There was no rush.

[Sam Morrill]

I liked that it was all on me, so I liked that part of it. And holy shit. My mom at that time was like, please, just be a writer. And I'm like, oh, my God. Thank God I didn't pursue just being a writer because it's so much harder to get stuff made. She thought that was. She thought writer, producer was the safe route, which maybe at that time it was. But now Stand up, at least I can make my own career for the most part. And I just liked. Yeah. And I. And then I got into Stand Up. You know, you listened to it. And I would. I liked albums. I liked something intimate about the jokes, like just being in your head, you know, as opposed. Watching's cool. But I always liked. I remember hearing, like, prior Carlin, Chris Rock album. Chris Rock albums were very big. David tell. Like, those albums where they're just like, wow, Rok would you said something about me before? Which I take as A high compliment where, you know, you say the wrong thing, but then kind of get them on your side. Rock is maybe the best ever at that.

[Trevor Noah]

I mean, every premise was wrong, and by the end of it, you were like, oh, no, we were wrong to not think that in the first place.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, it was. He had so many bits like that where I was just like. I mean, I love so many of his takes. I mean, Bigger and Blacker and Bring the Pain were like, crazy. Those are crazy albums, you know? So I remember listening to a Chris Rock album as a kid. I probably got, like, half. I was probably 11. I probably got half the jokes. But my mom just saw. She saw me laughing. She's like, what the hell is he listening to? And she grabbed it and she put the headphones on, and I just saw this look of horror on her face. And 30 seconds later, she laughed. And I was like, that's fucking beautiful that a joke can do that.

[Trevor Noah]

That's amazing that she could.

[Sam Morrill]

She loves him. I mean, she respects comedy very much. So that's also influential when you see what makes your. Cause when you're a kid, you're rebelling at first, but then you get to a certain age and you're like, well, what makes my parents laugh? This is kind of cool that they're in on it, too. My mom's not gonna like everything I do, obviously, but I would see her laugh at stuff, and she loved, like, Mitch Hedberg. She loved dry jokes. She loved sarcasm.

[Trevor Noah]

And do you think that shaped your comedy? Cause, I mean, you're on the drier edge of the comedy spectrum.

[Sam Morrill]

I'd say, yeah, probably. Because when you. Because it feels good to make your mom laugh. It's like a great. It's a nice sound. You're like, oh, shit. That's. This is the person who gave me life, and she finds. I made my mom reluctantly laugh at a dick joke. That's kind of cool.

[Trevor Noah]

Those are the. Can I tell you something? When you make your mom reluctantly laugh at what? Not at any. I wasn't gonna say anything else. I just said, reluctantly laugh.

[Eugene Causa]

I'm sorry. Cause I thought you were actually finishing off what Sam has.

[Trevor Noah]

You wanted me to stay at a dick joke?

[Eugene Causa]

Okay. Shock.

[Trevor Noah]

There's no African who is making their mom laugh at a dick joke. None. But our version, I would say for me, of a dick joke in. That is. I'll make my mom reluctantly laugh at a religious joke.

[Sam Morrill]

Right?

[Trevor Noah]

And she'll. She'll laugh, and then she'll go, that's not funny.

[Sam Morrill]

My mom does the same thing.

[Trevor Noah]

She does the same thing.

[Sam Morrill]

Yes. Yeah, she. But then you're like, but I got the reaction.

[Trevor Noah]

So she'll be like, no. My mom said to me. She's like, no, you forced me. I didn't want to laugh.

[Eugene Causa]

Too late.

[Trevor Noah]

Then I said, but you laughed. You found it funny. She's like, I didn't find it funny. You tricked me. I don't like that. Then I'm like, I didn't do anything. I just told you a joke. She's like, no, no, I. There's nothing funny about what you said. I'm like, but you laugh, and they.

[Sam Morrill]

Get mad when they make the act. But then they're like. I feel like they're kind of also into it a little bit. I had a joke about her because she's such. Such a worrier, dude. I mean, we were talking about this before the pod, but, I mean, she worried about every. I was walking on the street with her once, and we saw a dead bird. And I was like. And she goes, ew, dead bird. Don't touch it. And I was like, don't. Are you really telling me I'm an adult. Like, you think I'm going to pick up a dead bird and be like.

[Trevor Noah]

This was like a child story?

[Sam Morrill]

No, that's. I was an adult, and my mom saw. I saw a dead bird, and I go, ooh. And she goes, don't touch it. And I was like. I was in my 20s. I was like, are you kidding me? Like, that's her level of worry. She worried so much. So we were talking about COVID before and, like, oh, my God. Having a mom. Having a hypochondriac mom during COVID It was like, I know. Look, I'll never see you again. Whatever you want. Like, whatever makes you feel safe, Mom. We'll zoom forever, you know? You know? It was mental.

[Trevor Noah]

That is so beautiful. So take me through some of your stories.

[Sam Morrill]

She'd always be like, I'm immune compromised. I'm like, but you're not really. You're pretty good. You're in pretty good shape.

[Trevor Noah]

Where was she living at this time?

[Sam Morrill]

They live in midtown in Manhattan.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, so they're here.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And okay, in her defense, I'm getting dinner with them after this.

[Trevor Noah]

Yo, man.

[Sam Morrill]

In her defense, behind glass doors, still no.

[Trevor Noah]

But do you remember, like, in her defense?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

New York was no joke.

[Sam Morrill]

It was no joke.

[Trevor Noah]

Like, New York. I was telling him the other day, walking past. I don't know if you ever went through Central park when they had, like, the body bags and stuff that was.

[Eugene Causa]

I still refuse to believe that.

[Trevor Noah]

My mind doesn't want to. Let me tell you something. Depending on where you experienced Covid, I see why everyone has a different feeling about COVID Because everyone's experience of it was. Diff. For some people was completely a theoretical thing. They were at home, and then they were told there was a death toll.

[Eugene Causa]

Watched it on the news, and then.

[Trevor Noah]

There were other people. Like, if you were in New York during that time, you didn't go to Florida. You didn't run away anywhere. You just stayed here. The streets were empty. There was only sirens.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

Like, all day. It was just siren, siren, siren. And then when you could go outside, I remember walking around Central park and they had turned it into, like, a makeshift. It looked. It literally looked like an apocalypse movie where they had the white tents and then they had body bags. And you're like, what is going on here? I was like, oh, this shit is like. It's like.

[Sam Morrill]

It's real. Real. It was. You know, it's so weird. This is. Something about the city is like just the way you hear a song and it takes you back to a time. I haven't been on this exact block since COVID and I used to. I did a show on this block at some hotel. I don't even know if it's still here, but I did a show three nights a week because they had an outdoor space with heat lamps. So I was able to do a three. I would just do an hour three nights a week to stay. Oh, during COVID During COVID Because it was heat lamps. But I was on this block late at night one night with Phil Hanley. We were just, like, sitting around waiting, watching, like, it's one of the things where the night's over, but you're. You're both so happy to be around another human because it was still Covid.

[Trevor Noah]

What a time.

[Sam Morrill]

So I remember cabs were going by, and some creepy kid just kept riding by us on a bike. And he did it, like, five times. And we're like, I mean, should we move? It was so creepy. I was like, I mean, he's a kid. We shouldn't be scared of him. But, like, there's a reason you use kids in horror movies. It was, like, scary. He just kept circling us, and we're like, I guess.

[Eugene Causa]

How about you see other humans?

[Sam Morrill]

He was happy to be around us, too, Maybe. I don't know. But, yeah, it was a dark time.

[Trevor Noah]

That's. You see that? That's when you knew who, like, loved comedy. They were comedians during COVID They're like. They're like, I'm not stopping. Yeah, you were doing it in parking lots.

[Sam Morrill]

I was. My main thing was roofs, but, yeah, I did a lot of parking lots, but roofs were my big thing during COVID Yeah, I loved it. I got really hooked on it because it was like. I mean, I don't know if I think I got worse at comedy because it was hard to tell what was hitting. Cause you're like. You're like, what? You're doing the math in your head. Well, like, that hit on this roof, but it didn't hit on this roof. Like, I'm doing roofs in Bushwick. I'm doing them in the Lower east side. I'm doing them in Hell's Kitchen.

[Trevor Noah]

Only works on the 32nd floor, dude.

[Sam Morrill]

It was. It was a confusing time. And also, you know, some nights it would be packed, and some nights, you know, 18 people. But people were desperate. Yeah, they were desperate. I remember reading this book. I forgot the title, but it was about these, like, ancient settlers, and they. And it's like, do how, like, music just got them through the winters. And I was like, oh, shit. People need this. It was the same way. Okay, they'd be freezing, but they'd be playing music, and they just gather around, and it was like, oh, this is keeping us going. And I felt that way about comedy a little bit because I saw people laughing. I was like, holy shit. That guy. That joke wasn't even that good, but that guy needed to laugh. That's why I had a hard time telling. It was good. I think people, like, wanted. It was the same way.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, it was the same way. People came out right after Covid.

[Eugene Causa]

Like, I was about to say, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

They were coming to shows like, I'd never seen. I was like, this is. And some of them forgot how to behave.

[Trevor Noah]

Some of them.

[Sam Morrill]

They'd be in public. They'd be in a movie theater, and they'd be like, yeah, I'm just gonna scream drunk. I'm like, yeah, you can't do that. You know? But they were like, that is what I do at my place. You know, people forgot how to be humans during. It was so. I mean, some people still aren't good, dude. I mean, I go. I mean, you see it around the country. You go on. You go to downtowns now in every city, and you're like, people are. There's, like, a real drug problem in this country that they're not addressing. You just go around and you're just like, this is someone's kid. This is crazy.

[Trevor Noah]

You know, I think the worst thing we did around the world, there were two countries I know, that did it in some way, but it's almost like they. It's almost like they stumbled onto it. One was intentional, but it wasn't for Covid. I think there was a stampede in Korea. Stand to be corrected, but I think it was in Korea, so a huge stampede, and a bunch of people died. And it was at a party originally. It was a whole thing, but they had a day of mourning. And I remember watching that, and I was going, wait, what is happening here? And the whole country just had to pause and go, we are gonna collectively mourn this loss. And the second version of it I saw, which wasn't intentional, was when the queen died in England, and she died just on the other side of COVID You know what I mean? And people were lined up to go to the church. And I remember, like, one story. David Beckham was standing in line. Like, didn't. Like vip. It didn't skip the line. Waited with people for hours, just in the line with them, and people were crying. And I remember looking at that and thinking to myself, I know some people are crying for a legacy and a time that's lost and a piece of their country and. But I was like, yeah, but a lot of people here are crying because they didn't get to cry about COVID Do you know what I mean?

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, dude. I cried at Simpsons episodes during COVID I was like, I don't think it's. I don't think it's the Simpsons that's breaking me right now. I think there's some other.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but we didn't.

[Eugene Causa]

We never.

[Trevor Noah]

Like, we never. Those are. Those are, like, the moments I think of where as we bottled up. Yeah. I go. Everyone just went back to. It never was a thing whether you.

[Eugene Causa]

Would love to forget.

[Trevor Noah]

Forget what you believe or don't believe. Forget everything. Forget vaccines, forget Covid, even as real or not real. Just remember a time when we couldn't go outside and a lot of people were dying. Okay.

[Sam Morrill]

People from Florida. You can skip this part of the podcast, but you lucky bastards, you had a great time. You had a great time during COVID I do a weekend once in a while in, like, Florida or Texas, and I'd be like, I'm grateful to be working right now. This is crazy. But I'm like, you guys know what's happening in New York right now. You're, like, reporting news. You're like, did you hear what happened? I felt like a messenger boy, you.

[Trevor Noah]

Know, on the YouTube video.

[Eugene Causa]

And they're like.

[Trevor Noah]

When they're like. People commonly skip this. Yeah. People in. They skip this part. But, like, I don't know, man. I think that collective thing, it's. You're not wrong. That's why people didn't forget just how to act, but we also forgot how to feel in a certain way.

[Sam Morrill]

When's the last time we were all on the same page about anything as a country? Like, we're not on the same page about the world as a human race?

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, no. As a world, it's gotten more. Trust me, it's gotten everywhere.

[Sam Morrill]

I mean, the super bowl used to be a thing where, like, it's the Super Bowl. This is great. And now it's like. Now people were like, fuck Taylor Swift. I'm like, who gives a shit?

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Or, you know, or they'll be furious about the. I don't even remember who did the last Super Bowl. What band?

[Trevor Noah]

Kendrick.

[Sam Morrill]

Kendrick.

[Trevor Noah]

No, before Kendrick.

[Sam Morrill]

No, it was Kendrick.

[Trevor Noah]

Wait, was it Kendrick, the last one? Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

No one's. I think Prince is the last time. Everyone's like, all right, that was a good show. Everyone else, people were like. They either love it or they're like, fuck that.

[Trevor Noah]

It always means something. It's always the end of your side. It's always. I will say it's become worse in America in that. In that way, but it's become pervasive all around the world where everyone has made everything seem like it is a loss or a victory for them. You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

What do you mean by that?

[Trevor Noah]

So, like, I remember a time. I remember a time when, like, it's.

[Eugene Causa]

Gonna go into black and white film.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, right? Yes. Let me tell you about a time when I was young.

[Sam Morrill]

Boy.

[Trevor Noah]

No. Now, I said this to a friend the other day. I said, do you remember when people were allowed to just not like something but not say that it was shit? Like, when I was younger, people would say, what's your favorite sitcom? And someone would go, friends. And then you would go, oh, no, mine is Family Ties or Family Matters. You know what I mean? Family Matters. And they'd be like, no, mine is, you know, full House. So mine is. But no one. I don't remember anyone going like, friends is shit. People just went like, oh, I. I don't like Friends, and I don't watch it. And they would move on, and then over time, gradually, and I don't know if it's More.

[Sam Morrill]

It gets more engaging. They call it rage bait. Exactly right. You get rage. It's rage bait. If you're just like this. The Sopranos sucked. Do something. And you're just like, it didn't suck, you know, but they're just like, I think it sucked. And you're like, well, you could have said that.

[Trevor Noah]

But that's what I mean. But I think that's what I mean about, like, the loss and the win for your side is like, if Taylor Swift performs, then the world we now live in tells you that you are losing. If you're not a Taylor Swift person.

[Eugene Causa]

How dare you not do it?

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. It's like, I can't believe they chose Taylor Swift as the or. If Kendrick performs, it's like, you've now lost. I can't believe Kendrick is now. But it's like, yo, man, every year, someone would just perform at a thing and something would happen, and it's not your thing. And some. This movie wins an Oscar. That one doesn't. But it's. It doesn't mean that you've lost. But now I feel like we've made it in society, tribal. Yeah, but we've made it that people have lost.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

For no reason.

[Sam Morrill]

Also, you're allowed to just be like. For me, personally, like, I don't have, like, a strong opinion on Taylor Swift. I think she has some good songs. I don't really listen to her.

[Eugene Causa]

That's a very strong opinion, sir.

[Sam Morrill]

My niece loves. My niece is obsessed with her, but it makes my niece happy. So I'm like, oh, good. You know, that's my opinion, basically, on her, you know, So I.

[Eugene Causa]

Very strong.

[Trevor Noah]

It's funny. No, it's funny. You say that. We were chatting yesterday. Obviously we knew you were coming on, and we're chatting about this, and I said, I feel like Sam. And please don't feel like this is, like, a lot of pressure. I was like, I feel like you are, like, one of the final bastions of comedy right now.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, fuck.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, I know. I said don't feel the pressure. I specifically told you not to feel the pressure. Don't feel the pressure. I'll tell you why. Because your comedy specifically, in my opinion, still exists in a place where everyone feels like it's for them. Do you know what I mean?

[Sam Morrill]

You weren't at my show last night at the Comedy Cellar. Jesus Christ. I still have rough ones there sometimes.

[Trevor Noah]

No, no, no. But rough is part of comedy.

[Sam Morrill]

I love it. Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

No, no, rough is part of comedy. I mean, like Dave Chappelle taught me, you can go to a show and bomb. It doesn't matter how great you are. That's part of comedy. You're working the craft. I'm not saying that.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

What I'm saying is your comedy is for everyone. What I mean by this is I've seen somebody who considers themselves Republican, conservative, whatever, go, I love Sam Morrell.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, thanks, man.

[Trevor Noah]

I've seen somebody who goes like, ah, I'm a full on liberal Democrat. I love Sam Morrill. I've seen someone go, I don't care about politics. I hate both sides. I love Sam Morrell. And I go, ah, man, this guy is keeping something that society's losing more and more of.

[Sam Morrill]

Well, I said earlier, I don't see that. I see myself as, like, an entertainer. So if my goal is to kill the room and, you know, be who I am, like, you're not gonna, you know, compromise yourself and pander. But I think the crowd is too smart. They can tell if you're pandering. So you have to just be you. And if it works, it works. But, you know, some. Sometimes it's not for everybody. I see some shows and I'm like, oh, that joke's not for everybody, but I like it, so I'm keeping it. Every once in a while, you get, like, one or two of those per special. But, no, it's hard, man. It's hard to stay true to who you are and still connect because you get older and you're kind of just like, I don't. I want to do this joke. I think this joke is funny. I think there's something here, and I'll get stubborn with it and I'll keep hammering it. Like, I have some jokes that I think are. I don't want to call them, like, crowd pleasers, but they're for everybody. They're a little safer.

[Trevor Noah]

Those are the hits.

[Sam Morrill]

You need to have those safer jokes to get to the ones. I'm like, this one's a little unsafe. Is this going to work? I like this a lot, but, you know, it also, it depends on the crowd. Like, I have a whole new chunk on going to Amsterdam and not getting into the Anne Frank house. They wouldn't let me in. And it was a long story. And I was like. I was so mad when they didn't let me in. And then I was like, oh, wait a second, I'm gonna get a bit. Whenever something bad happens to me in any way, even that's not even that bad. What happened to Anne Frank was worse. Let's Face it. But I was upset, too. But I had a rat in my home last month, and I live on the 14th floor of a nice building, so I was shocked to see a rat, and I was so upset, but then I was like, that comedy's the one thing that you're like, I'm gonna get a joke out of this. That's the one thing that, like, if I don't get a joke out of this, I suck. If I. I'm telling my mom about it on the phone, and she's laughing so hard. Cause I'm making jokes about the rat and stuff. And, like, you'll get a joke out of this. I said, I'll get a joke. So it's exciting to write new stuff. Like, I hate bombing, but I don't know. I love doing this still. Every once in a while, I'll do too many shows, and I'll be like, oh, I don't. I don't want to do a show. I hate when I feel that way. I try to stay very excited about, like, so I try to not overdo it so I can stay. Oh, I'm so excited to go on tonight.

[Eugene Causa]

You know, speaking of excitement, why weren't you lent into the Anne Frank house?

[Sam Morrill]

Because it's a hot ticket, apparently. I booked. I booked the walking tour.

[Eugene Causa]

Wait, wait. There's a state in tour.

[Sam Morrill]

There's.

[Eugene Causa]

Well, you can stay inside the closet.

[Sam Morrill]

They want. They want you to buy. They want. It's like a house, and then there's a parent. I didn't know there was a walking tour, but, yeah, I. The line I said to the lady was. I was. I was under the impression she was cooped up. I didn't know there was a walking tour.

[Trevor Noah]

Damn.

[Sam Morrill]

But. And I was like, oh, this is a bit. I got a bit cooking. So I kept going with it, but I kept going and I got a long bit out of it. But now I'm going back to Amsterdam next month, and I'm like, I better finish. I want another part of this bit. I want part two. I get in. I. I posted, like, a joke how I. I didn't get in. And the Jewish mafia came after me like. Like Amy Schumer. Jessica Seinfeld. They're like, what can we do? I was like, what do you mean, what can you do? You have a hookup for the Anne Frank house. They were, like, trying to help. I'm like, what? I don't know. All these Jews were, like, hitting me up, like, we must do something. I'm like, it's not that big a deal. I'm just making it. I'm gonna go to the Van Gogh Museum. It's fine. It's not.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but you see. Okay, so now let's pause. And this is what I mean about you. This is exactly what I mean is like, you have a man. It's. Superpower might be the wrong word, but.

[Sam Morrill]

It'S almost like, let's dial it back.

[Trevor Noah]

Okay, that's what I'm saying. It might be the wrong word. Here's what I think it is. You are almost less allergic to the things that a lot of people in society are now allergic to. You with me, so what? I think a lot of people, as.

[Sam Morrill]

A Jew, I never hear that. So we complain about everything.

[Trevor Noah]

But this is. What I mean is. This is. What I mean is you go. You don't get into the Anne Frank Museum, whatever. Now the people around you are responding like, ah, how could this happen? There's a reaction.

[Sam Morrill]

I get that for a second, but then immediately it's like, but that's what I mean.

[Trevor Noah]

You have more of a resistance.

[Sam Morrill]

You have to just think, like, anytime something bad happens, you think, if I don't make it funny, then I'm worthless. I really feel that way as a comic. Like, if I can't make a bad. As you said, that trans swimming joke, that's not something. That's something that happened to me. That's just an observation. But that's something that hasn't been worked through. So I have to work through my stuff.

[Trevor Noah]

That's why.

[Sam Morrill]

Like, a breakup joke. You ever write a breakup joke that's it's too soon, where you're like, oh, that's the audience, I guess, for both. But I'll write the joke. And I'm just like, wow, this is funny. And then they're just like, really sad. You're like, oh, shit. I think that's funny. But like, I remember I had a joke that never worked about my biological father that I thought was really funny. It never worked. It was about how when my dad, who adopted me, he was a great. I love my dad. He's a great dad. He was talking with my stepdad. I just call him dad. But when you have that adoption, you need to get the signature of your biological father. Of the biological father. So I said, it's kind of like the opposite of a UPS package. Like, here's my signature, and I don't want. This never worked. It just made the crowd sad to me. I was like, that's a funny joke. But it just. I could. I heard the crowd go, aww. I remember telling my therapist, and he was like, well, an aw means they care about you. I'm like, I know, but I'm going for a laugh. You want the laugh?

[Eugene Causa]

If I sign this, it means I don't have to take responsibility.

[Sam Morrill]

Yes, yes.

[Eugene Causa]

Same here. That's what it felt like.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

I'm trying to figure out why that wouldn't connect, though. No, because it is funny.

[Sam Morrill]

I'm just trying to figure out why it didn't work.

[Trevor Noah]

Like, never worked.

[Sam Morrill]

Well, look, it's not a science. Like, sometimes you just. Yeah, it just never works.

[Trevor Noah]

I think it is a science, and I think that's how you treat it.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, I. No, if it were science, I think I would know before it was on stage.

[Trevor Noah]

No, but that's what science is, if you think about it, for the most part. Like, science is constantly running an experiment to try and figure out why the thing does or doesn't. And then you're trying to narrow down why one element does. You know what I mean? It's a process of elimination for the most part. So you're going, this causes this reaction. Is it because of this or is it because of that? And then you try to remove what the correlation is. And then you try and figure out if this is causing this or if this is just happening, because this is happening at the same time. And that's why I think it is a science in many ways. It's a social science, you know? So you're going. You might find, like, you change one thing. That's what I love about comedy. You change one word in that whole joke, all of a sudden, it worked. You might find changing it from I felt like a UPS package versus it was like a UPS package. You never know what happens.

[Sam Morrill]

I feel like I felt personalizes it too much. To me. That makes it sadder. I felt. I try to remove feelings. I think when I feel in a joke, the joke's not funny. I have to be a little numb to it at this point. That's why breakup jokes, they hit so much harder, like, six months after, as opposed to a week after. Cause it's too real. They're just like, oh, that's sad. You know, they feel for you. They feel like they almost shouldn't be laughing sometimes, too, I think. I think they can sense the rawness of it.

[Trevor Noah]

No, that's true. Yeah, that's true. But what I'm saying is sometimes that's. What I think is magical about comedy is we sometimes don't even know. Like, we have an assumption, right, as comedians, and then we'll do a thing we've all had that you tell a joke and you're trying to get to this part of a punchline, and the audience loves, like, a random thing that you didn't even consider. You don't even realize the words that you're saying are eliciting something. And sometimes you go, why?

[Eugene Causa]

Why?

[Trevor Noah]

Why are they laughing? What are they? I'm sure. Have you ever experienced that? And then an audience member goes, man, I loved how you said that. And you're like, oh, I wasn't trying to say that, actually. Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

You stumble backwards into one. That's a gift. That's a. When that happens, that'll happen in stories sometimes. Sometimes I'll. You ever have, like, a story where you're like, I know the ending. I know what the ending is.

[Trevor Noah]

Yes.

[Sam Morrill]

And now. Now that I know of an ending that work, I can now experiment for, like, two minutes in between and see what's funny. Cause I don't know yet. So, yeah, I had. Yeah, I had a whole thing about the rat. And I didn't know it was funny until I just kept saying it. But I had. One of the exterminators kept describing the rats as smart. And for some reason, that kept hitting. I was like, why is that? I guess it is funny to be, like, complimenting the rodent, but I just kept using that. I kept being like. I was like, are the glue traps gonna work? They're like, we don't know. He's smart. And I was just like, oh, my God. It was annoying me so much. And. And for some, like, little words, you're just like. I guess calling a rat smart is kind of funny.

[Trevor Noah]

Especially the exterminator calling the rat smart. Cause for me, it evokes this idea of. It's like a. Now it's like a trope in a way. It's like they've got this little rivalry amongst them. They've got like a. I don't know. I just think, you know, Sylvester and Tweety, it's a whole.

[Eugene Causa]

Like, we've got an understanding and respect for each other's trades.

[Trevor Noah]

Exactly.

[Eugene Causa]

He's smarty. Try to kill me. How we do it every day.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. You know what I mean? You don't know. These rats, they smart, man. They smart. Like, you know what I mean? I gotta respect them.

[Sam Morrill]

Well, the annoying thing is, I hated the first exterminator because he, like, was just putting glue traps everywhere. And I was like, what do you get?

[Trevor Noah]

How many rats did you have?

[Sam Morrill]

Just one. But it was. I mean, just one doesn't even sound good, by the way. You can't really bring a woman home either way. You're like, I just have one rat. It'll be fine. Close the door. But no, it was disgusting. I can't.

[Trevor Noah]

Did you see the rat or did you see the droppings? Both.

[Sam Morrill]

I saw him. He was a fat dude, too. Oh, he was big.

[Trevor Noah]

High floor.

[Sam Morrill]

14Th floor. Yeah. Look, it's New York City, so it doesn't matter. I asked. I was asking the building. They were like, yeah, like every building has. Has them. You just gotta be nervous about the walls. If there's a hole anywhere they can find. But it's.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, they chew through the drywall in America.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. Because we use bricks for most of our housing, so there's no. But here, the rat can just chew through the walls.

[Sam Morrill]

It's so gross.

[Eugene Causa]

Just like in the cartoons.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, yeah. Like that little. Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, you want to hear the most violating shit the rat did to me? I had one of those camelback backpacks, you know, with the straw that you sip. He nibbled the straw down for the water, and I was like, oh, this is so violating. I'm so upset because I went to. Because I would just drink out of it. Because I would just, like, walk around.

[Eugene Causa]

You did.

[Sam Morrill]

No, I didn't drink. After I saw it, I just looked. I was like, oh, I felt so violated by. I hated the. And my friend had just told me a story. I have a friend in la, and she was telling me how she had a rat in her home in la and how this is way worse because she was so scared of the rat. She just woke up and the rat was starved, trying to nibble her finger. And she freaked out in her bed and she flipped over a dresser. The rat ran behind it, and she just fell on the floor and panicked and kicked the dresser into the rat and smushed the rat. And I was like, that's fucking rat teeth. Yeah. And then she told me she had another rat. There were two. And I was like, what the fuck? What are you living. You know? She had a nice place, and she was another one. And she got it on a glue trap, which is hard because they smell the human scent on the. So they. If they smell human scent, they're like, oh, I'm outta here. I'm not touching that. But she just took the other rat on the glue trap and just dropped.

[Trevor Noah]

It in her pool.

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No.

[Sam Morrill]

Cause she didn't Wanna deal with it?

[Trevor Noah]

It was like a Tarantino movie of rats.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. Oh, it's awful. But, dude, they got it. The crazy way they got it was I had two exterminators come by. And the second one was like, he was even worse. The first one sucked. And the second one, it was Liz from the Comedy Cellar. Got me this first exterminator.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, I thought you were saying Liz was the exterminator. The second one, it was Liz.

[Sam Morrill]

I would trust Liz. But, but, but no. He just leaves glue traps anywhere. And he wasn't even, like, confident.

[Eugene Causa]

That's the first one.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. And I was like. I was like, are these gonna work? He's like, maybe. He's like, he's the one who kept calling him smart. So I was so annoyed. And then he's leaving glue traps everywhere. And I'm like, will they work? He's like, probably. He was not confident at all. And then the second guy who came by, I was like, I need a better guy. Because that guy sucked. And he was just looking at all of his stuff and he was like, no, the last guy did a really good job. And I was like, I called you because I don't think he did a good job. So I got two guys who sucked. So the guys that eventually got him were five days later and five nights I had to rat in my apartment. And I was devastated. Going to bed every night because, you know, like, we're night people. So I was just like, this sucks. I know he's going to come out soon. And on a Sunday morning, I call these guys and they show up with hockey sticks. Three dudes with hockey sticks. And I was like, what's with the hockey sticks? So, like, we usually would use people's like, you know, baseball bats or brooms to kill rats if we were at their place. But we just, like, got our own things. So the three dudes with hockey sticks, I leave. Cause I play in a comics basketball game on Sundays. And he texts me a picture of a dead rat 10 minutes later. And they found it. And I just. And I wrote, you found him dead? And he wrote, I made him dead.

[Eugene Causa]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Damn. Yeah, he. They took care of it.

[Trevor Noah]

It's like the Mighty Ducks of hockey sticks. Just imagine how random it is. You open your door and there's three guys with hockey sticks.

[Sam Morrill]

Dude, my doorman hated them. They were like. They were like, these guys are assholes. I was like, how are they assholes? I'm like, I guess they were like, cursing when they came in. But I was like, I fucking love these guys. They were cursing and they had jumpsuits. They were cursing, and they all had. And they had weapons, which I was like. He was like, why?

[Eugene Causa]

Wait, who are they cursing?

[Sam Morrill]

I guess at the doorman. They were characters. They were colorful. I mean, look, you need rough around the edges. The basic exterminators weren't getting the job done. These guys found the rat in 10 minutes. It was incredible. I was so grateful. I. I slept like a baby that night, dude.

[Eugene Causa]

So there hasn't been a rat ever since?

[Sam Morrill]

No, this was, like, a month ago. I hope there's not. I mean, geez. I. Yeah, no, that was awful. It was an awful experience. It's just, you know, because you just don't. It's your home. You want to walk around barefoot and feel good, you know?

[Trevor Noah]

It's weird how rats. They are smart, by the way. Just generally.

[Eugene Causa]

Do you recognize this guy? No.

[Trevor Noah]

No.

[Sam Morrill]

No.

[Trevor Noah]

But they are smart. Sometimes I wish we could, like, just negotiate with, like, what we consider pests.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

Because, like, rats are really smart. Apparently, they make great pets. They're really easy to train.

[Sam Morrill]

But, God, it's weird when people have a rat as a pet.

[Trevor Noah]

No, it's weird because we think of rats as weird.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, I agree with you. Well, they're filthy. Those are, like, different types.

[Trevor Noah]

No, but they're not filthy, apparently.

[Sam Morrill]

Well, that rat was. Was really.

[Trevor Noah]

No, no, but here's the thing. Like, humans can also be filthy if you just leave them in the streets.

[Sam Morrill]

You sound like a rat sympathizer, dude. I don't know.

[Eugene Causa]

Same guy who showers before going to the gym.

[Trevor Noah]

Guys, listen. Listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is the culture, whatever you grow up with, you think that's weird or normal, right?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

So if we grew up with rats, we would think that dogs are weird.

[Sam Morrill]

We would. I think. I think we're in too deep with this rat hate, dude. I. I see him on this. I can. I can appreciate like. Like, celebrity rats. Pizza rat. He was great. Ratatouille. Ratatouille was great.

[Trevor Noah]

Celebrity rats.

[Sam Morrill]

Pizza rats. Well, I saw a rat in the street last night, and I was charmed by it. I thought it was funny. He ran. He was, like, grabbing his food, and I was like, good. You should be in the street.

[Trevor Noah]

Okay?

[Sam Morrill]

If you're in the street, I got no problem with you. But in my home. No, I. I can't.

[Trevor Noah]

Not in my backyard.

[Sam Morrill]

No.

[Trevor Noah]

Samuel. The nimby. The rat nimby.

[Sam Morrill]

I don't want. I don't want To.

[Trevor Noah]

I have no problem with rats in the streets. But you don't bring that rat around my house, not around my daughter. Okay?

[Sam Morrill]

You can marry who you want to marry. This is a leaf.

[Trevor Noah]

You want to marry who you want to marry.

[Eugene Causa]

Trevor was the gobles of rat. I decide who's around here. Oh, man.

[Sam Morrill]

That was the book, mouse, Weren't they? They were.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, yes. That is actually what it was.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. You're not wrong. You just brought it around because that actually.

[Sam Morrill]

Spiegelman.

[Trevor Noah]

That actually was the book.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, they were mice.

[Trevor Noah]

Look at that, man. You see, you think this is what comedians do. We stumble on some.

[Sam Morrill]

You know, by the way, they ban that. It was some Florida school ban that for nudity.

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[Trevor Noah]

That's one reason to ban it.

[Sam Morrill]

That's why. That's why you ban a book about the Holocaust is a nude mouse.

[Trevor Noah]

Whoever was doing the book banning, like, they went. Cause when you saw some of the books that were banned, it almost felt like an AI that didn't know what the banning. Cause they just went like, no nudity in kids books.

[Sam Morrill]

Right.

[Trevor Noah]

And then this is going back to what you were saying about people. You remember what I was saying? Like, everyone wins and losses. I remember someone was like, we shouldn't ban the books. And then I asked, which books are being banned? And someone, the person responded. They were like, it doesn't matter. I was like, well, it might matter which books are being banned. And then they were like, your book was banned. I was like, all right. I think that's weird. I was like, I think that's weird.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

I don't know why they banned my book.

[Eugene Causa]

Why they banned your book?

[Trevor Noah]

No. I was like, I don't know. But I said, which other books have been banned? And then there was, like, a book that. It was like a children's book, but it had, like, dicks out and, like, boobs, and it was, like, a weird book. I forget what the premise of the book was.

[Eugene Causa]

I'm glad you forgot.

[Sam Morrill]

No, they banned Hustler in children's schools.

[Trevor Noah]

This is crazy.

[Eugene Causa]

As in Hunter.

[Trevor Noah]

And I remember. And I remember saying. And I remember saying. I remember saying. I was like, oh, that's a weird book. Yeah, that's a weird book.

[Sam Morrill]

You know, kids shouldn't read that. I mean.

[Trevor Noah]

And then a bunch of the other books were not weird. And so I was saying. The thing that I didn't like was that no one was able to have, like, a normal, logical conversation about. It was either your no books should be banned or all books should be Banned. And I was going, wait, wait, wait.

[Sam Morrill]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Trevor Noah]

Maybe we could just do this on a case by case basis. Maybe we.

[Sam Morrill]

But it made these books punk rock. Like all those books.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Selling out on Amazon. You go to Barnes and Noble, they have a banned book section, and you're like, are they really. They're not really banned. If I can. If I'm going to them, like, where the banned books are, like, other. Right. Right in the front, right here.

[Trevor Noah]

So, yeah, it just became like a. You know, was one of those. Yeah, it was.

[Sam Morrill]

That's crazy. I bet it helped sales, though. I bet they're like, you know, I.

[Trevor Noah]

Don'T know if it did or it didn't, but it just like. I just remember being like, why is my. It was a weird emotional feeling because on the one hand, I was angry that my book got banned. On the other hand, I was like, yeah, but then I didn't know what to be. Yeah, about.

[Sam Morrill]

You shouldn't have put that whole full penetration chapter in the middle, dude. That's what did it.

[Trevor Noah]

And the punches. Yeah, yeah. The sketches didn't help.

[Eugene Causa]

The coloring.

[Trevor Noah]

Me and my naked rats.

[Sam Morrill]

It didn't help at all.

[Trevor Noah]

Don't press anything. We've got more. What now? After this.

[Sam Morrill]

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[Trevor Noah]

And basically it's conversations I've had that really make you feel like you're pulling.

[Sam Morrill]

Up a chair at an intimate dinner between myself and people that I admire.

[Trevor Noah]

Like Aaron Sorkin or Tiffany Haddish, Demi.

[Sam Morrill]

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[Sam Morrill]

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[Trevor Noah]

I want to, I want to talk to you about, you know when you're talking about like being adopted and. What do you mean being adopted?

[Sam Morrill]

Well, I wasn't adopted. That was just the term was legally adopted because when my mom raised me for the first few years and then she married who is my dad. So and then I got a stepbrother and stepsister. I just call my brother and sister.

[Trevor Noah]

But they are.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

I love that you guys have to say this.

[Eugene Causa]

Who's you guys?

[Trevor Noah]

White people? Oh, shut up. Because no, because like we're grandfathered in it. Okay. No, because if you think about how we grew up, it can be like so you could just grow up in the same house and you don't have to say I call them my brother. And no, this is my brother and sister.

[Sam Morrill]

I just say that because people look at my when I'm like, this is my brother. They're just like, you guys don't look alike. I'm like, just, just fucking go with it.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh yeah. No, no. You move to Africa, no one will even you don't. There's no. You just go, this is my brother. This is my sister. No one is even allowed to say but you don't look this. Just, just keep it moving. So wait, so, so he legally.

[Sam Morrill]

My dad's a lawyer, so he was like, I want to take you to court. I want to make it official.

[Trevor Noah]

He made it official.

[Sam Morrill]

It was like legal. I called it Legal adoption, which is just.

[Trevor Noah]

It's.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, it wasn't Oliver Twist, you know, it's just. It's just.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, no. I didn't know if it was like a.

[Sam Morrill]

No, I had a good childhood. It wasn't, you know.

[Eugene Causa]

Like the rat. You got murdered.

[Trevor Noah]

I was just wondering if it was like, you know, I was like, oh, damn. You got adopted and it was a whole thing, and they had to fight for you legally and, you know, wait.

[Eugene Causa]

So for the first few years, it was just you and your mom?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

Then he gets married to your dad.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

Then it's you, your mom and your dad for a while and.

[Sam Morrill]

And a brother and sister.

[Eugene Causa]

So they came immediately after.

[Trevor Noah]

I mean.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, they got married when I was probably six or seven.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

How many good years did you have before?

[Sam Morrill]

How many good years?

[Eugene Causa]

The steps came in.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, well. Yeah. That is the one thing that's weird, right? You're used to having your mom all to yourself, and then. And then she gets married. You're like, hey, you used to watch all my antics a second ago. Now I gotta. I gotta share you with this. Dad. What the hell? Yeah, I remember one time when I was really young, I wanted my mom's attention so much all the time. I was probably like six. I just ran into the room and they clearly were trying to have sex, and I was just like, doing some, like, thing. And I just. I just remember my dad's face just like, oh, God.

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Jesus.

[Sam Morrill]

Like, this kid's such a cockblock. What the hell? Yeah, you go. You go. I didn't know at the time. I just knew he was annoyed. I didn't know. Oh, but you know why he was.

[Trevor Noah]

Was annoyed?

[Sam Morrill]

I was too young to know what sex was. I didn't know what it was, but I was.

[Eugene Causa]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

I was a kid. The idea of you, I was just trying. Oh, dude. I was a real show kid. I did at their wedding, I sang give My regards to no way. I had a top hat on.

[Trevor Noah]

No, I told you.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

At some point has to wear a top. A hat.

[Trevor Noah]

You did say that. You did say this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

But I didn't picture you.

[Trevor Noah]

I know this sounds crazy, but I pictured you as, like, also, like a dry, witty kid.

[Sam Morrill]

I was. But I love. But I was a New Yorker, so I love. I was very dry. But then for some reason, I was like. Like, they were like, do you want to give a speech at the wedding? I was like, no, I'll perform is what I thought, for some reason.

[Trevor Noah]

What did you perform?

[Sam Morrill]

Give my regards To Broadway. The song. So I was in a top hat and. And a cane and I sang that top hat. It was like a paper top hat. It was like a fake top hat.

[Trevor Noah]

You made it?

[Sam Morrill]

No, it was like a. From a party store. It wasn't like a fancy top hat. It was like a stupid. Oh, man, this is amazing. How old.

[Trevor Noah]

How old are you when this is happening?

[Sam Morrill]

Probably six or seven.

[Trevor Noah]

Legend.

[Sam Morrill]

It killed.

[Trevor Noah]

Just tell me you have video.

[Sam Morrill]

I. I gotta ask my mom.

[Trevor Noah]

Someone had to. You got to put that in like a special at the end of one of your specials or at the beginning.

[Sam Morrill]

You know what? That's not bad. Think about.

[Trevor Noah]

That's like an amazing thing to just put in the end or the beginning of one of your specials.

[Sam Morrill]

They got married the day of the Puerto Rican parade, so they couldn't get any good pictures. Every picture was just like. They were just like pushed to the side. This is just mayhem in the city. But no, it was. It was definitely like, you know, I definitely wasn't that type of kid. It was weird that I did that, but I just loved.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, so that was out of character.

[Sam Morrill]

It was a little out of character. I just liked. I had a weird thing where, like, I kind of like musicals because I was a kid and I was never like a song and dance kid, but I just thought I was like, oh, that's like a cool New York thing. That's a cool New York song. I'm giving like a cool. This is like a cool moment for my parents. Clearly they were like, this is ridiculous, but just let me have the floor. Yeah. I think I just wanted. I think it was important to be the center of attention. You have that weird comic thing where you're like, I need to, like, I need to show off a lot. Because my family was very quiet at the table. Like, my mom and I weren't, but my. My brother, sister and dad were. My dad was a little more talky, but my brother and sister were very quiet. So I was kind of just like, you know, you just like, you're working stuff out. Can't you, like, let's. I'm used to noise at dinner, so I'm making noise, I'm making jokes. And I think, you know, I would see, like, let's see the furthest. You want to see the furthest you can possibly go, Right?

[Trevor Noah]

Did they break?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, sometimes I would do really stupid stuff. I was definitely in my mind, the lowest brow member of the family. Like, you know, my brother and sister were super smart and overachievers. And I was horribly behaved in school. So I think I was like, I was, how can I get attention? I'm not gonna be smarter than them. So I just would be outrageous and I would just say the fucked up thing always. And that would break them. And then, you know. But you also have that thing you don't realize. You're like, oh, maybe I have a low self esteem because I'm, you know, the. I'm starting to feel like the black sheep of the family. Oh, yeah? Yeah. So I'm so, you know, you start acting out in school and the teacher's like, why is he doing this? And you're like, why? Just, I'm trying to get attention somehow. I'm trying to find my lane. I don't know what my lane is. So you go from being like the bad kid in school to eventually like, how can I turn this? And then eventually I started just getting good grades. Cause they medicated me and that really helped. Oh, they medicated the shit.

[Eugene Causa]

While you had the top hat on.

[Sam Morrill]

They saw that hat. They're like, that kid's gotta be on drugs. No. They gave me some ADD stuff. I started. I was all over the place. So I finally started focusing then getting good grades. And then I was like, okay, let me. Let me try to get the teachers laughing too. And that kind of went to like. So now my mom got so sad because she thought I was like. I saw myself as this fuck up. And I was. At that point, I was. I was, you know, I just. I was like, I'll be the fun guy. I'll just get drunk all the time and.

[Trevor Noah]

You want to be that uncle in the family?

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, I am. They have kids and I don't. I mean, I'm totally that. I mean, I'm not opposed to having kids, but that's where I'm at right now. I am like the fun drunk uncle. That's. That's totally what I am.

[Eugene Causa]

I was about to say I spoke to someone who was in a similar situation as you. And they realized when they had half siblings and they had a stepdad, they saw their mom mothering and they saw their stepdad as a dad. And then they felt, oh, observer of the whole family dynamic. And they saw themselves as a little bit of an outsider at times.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, that's interesting. Like, it's almost like they watched a family.

[Sam Morrill]

Yes.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Eugene Causa]

And they were here.

[Trevor Noah]

You were in it, though.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. I feel like they made an effort. If anything, I felt like it got weird for my sister for a Minute because my dad would be like, let's go out. We'll do guy stuff. And I'd be like, why does she get to come? She's not a guy. You know, I was more like. I was like, I'm like, I'm gonna make her the outsider, you know? But no, I didn't feel weird. They were. They were. They were inclusive with me.

[Trevor Noah]

You were just like a full on. So keeping. Keeping with that theme, though.

[Sam Morrill]

Do you.

[Trevor Noah]

Do you revel in being the outsider? Cause, I mean, like, I feel like different comedians have different vibes in terms of what it seems like they're trying to do, you know? So some comedians seem like they're trying to stay as the outsider in their act. Other comedians are trying to become the insider in the act. You know, it's like, this is all of us. Some comedians are trying to, like, make the audience feel like they're the outsiders and they're the normal ones. Everyone has. But I never.

[Sam Morrill]

I never saw myself as an outsider. I always saw myself, like I said entertainer before, like, trying to bring the room together, like, finding common ground. Like, I always like comics like that. And I think it probably stemmed from some thing in my family where I was like, let's, like, we're a family now. Let's. Let's get on the same page. Let's. Let's be. Let's get a good. If I could get everyone laughing, it felt so good, you know? So.

[Trevor Noah]

So how do you. How do you find the balance between. So, for instance, one of my favorite things I love of yours is your interviews. If you. If we'll actually play one for this episode, Samrill on a local news station somewhere is the greatest thing, because.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, no, my publicist texts me, you give me nightmares. Really? I have nightmares when I book you on these because I know I'm gonna get an angry email. She gets so mad at me and she. I'm like, well, then don't work with me. You don't have to work with me. She's like, no, it's fun. She admits it's fun. But then she's like, she'll get emails from people where she'll be like, she'll try to. I'm like, I bet they don't even remember that you represent me when you pitch your other clients to these shows. And she's like, maybe. And then she told me there was some interview I did where I just made up there was a human trafficking problem in Columbus, Ohio. And I went, and I wouldn't let it go. For the whole interview. And the guy just got so mad by the end. And then she messaged him a month later for another one of her clients. And they were like, we'll have your person on. But just, you know, we had this guy last month, he wouldn't shut up about human trafficking. And she had to pretend like, oh, that's horrible. I said, I told you, no one knows. No one remembers you. But she'll get really pissed at me. But then she, like, it's like the reluctant. Like, well, your mom. That's not funny. But she laughs.

[Trevor Noah]

It's not funny, but I found it funny.

[Sam Morrill]

She gets so uncomfortable, though. She's come to a couple and she's just like, oh. She's like, yeah, she's.

[Trevor Noah]

She's.

[Sam Morrill]

So. I don't really get uncomfortable. Cause I know it's gonna be funny. So I'm like, yeah, just. Just fake that it's fine, you know?

[Trevor Noah]

What do you make of the schism that we've seen in comedy? Maybe it hasn't even been inside comedy versus how people have seen comedy. I feel like over the past. Maybe it's been 10 years, five years. I don't know. I'm bad with time. People have sort of tried to make it. They go like, there's this comedy and there's that comedy. And they try and put comedians in a place in a box. Yeah. And I don't. I remember, like, for me, because I was on the Daily show, people automatically just assumed they knew everything about me. Do you know what I mean? They were like, okay, we know who you are. We think we know your politics, your beliefs, your everything. Cause you're on the Daily show, it's like, presupposed. And if I would tell a joke that didn't line up with what people thought I was thinking, then the people who were like, let's say, on my side, they would go, that was a mistake. And then the people who were not on my side would go, well, I guess every now and again he can be funny, but the rest of the time he's shit. You know what I'm saying? And the craziest moment for me was I did the White House Correspondents Dinner, and it's one of the few places left where everyone is in the same room. Do you know what I mean?

[Sam Morrill]

They got rid of it, too, right? It's over.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. I mean, now it'll come back, I think, but it's one of the few places where it's like Fox News is sitting right there next to msnbc. And CNN is sitting right there next to. And by the way, this is something I keep telling people. And I wish more Americans knew about their news, about their politics, about all of these forums. They're a lot more friendly with each other than you are with each other. Do you know what I mean?

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, they know it's a game.

[Eugene Causa]

They know it's a game.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. But, like, I wish people knew this. I remember one of the first times I experienced this. I just joined the Daily show as a tangent. But still, I was. We were on the road in New Hampshire. It was for the. For the primaries.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

And I remember Hillary Clinton's staff going out for dinner and hanging out with, man. Lindsey Graham's staff. And I remember being like, whoa, don't you guys. And they were like, no, no, they get along. And people. They go to dinner.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, we got the night off. Lindsey's in a hotel room with a guy. So we're good.

[Trevor Noah]

And they were just like. They went, we get along.

[Eugene Causa]

What do you mean?

[Trevor Noah]

They were like, we get along. And so. But anyway, my point is, I mean.

[Sam Morrill]

Trump was friends with the Clintons, and the lock him up thing, I really believe was theatrics. I don't think he gave a shit. I think he was just trying to win.

[Trevor Noah]

It was wrestling.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, it was wrestling.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. That's all it was. So anyway, I'm in that room. Everyone's there together. So now you get to make jokes that everyone can laugh at. Because if I make a joke that hits Biden, then Republicans will laugh. If I make a joke that hits Trump or Fox or whatever, then you know what I mean? So I'm telling these jokes.

[Sam Morrill]

But the Democrats get mad at you when you make too many Biden jokes.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, completely.

[Eugene Causa]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

So I did the jokes. Show went really well. The room to its credits had a great time.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

That week on Facebook, on Fox News, msnbc, wherever it was, people only had the portion of the set.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

That echo chamber that told the jokes that they. You know what I mean? So literally there was right wing or conservative or, you know, Republican, each group on this side going, oh, man, this was actually quite funny. And the other side was like, oh, man, this is actually quite funny. But no one was watching the mix thing. And like, when I watch your comedy, I go, I think specifically about, like, some of the jokes you've done where you always feel like a reluctant hero for me. Cause people try to make you a hero.

[Sam Morrill]

Right. That's a good name for a special.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, that is a great name for your Special, to be honest, because you'll tell a joke and then I'll see people go, sam Morrell. That's what I like, man. He's here and he's telling jokes that are great for women. And finally he's standing up to the manosphere. And Sam's like, I was just telling a joke about my perspective on dating.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, I tell this to everyone. I did. I remember I was at the Kelly Clarkson show and one of the producers was talking to me, trans person. And she was like, oh, my God. You're like, I love your joke about trans swimmers. Like, it's one of my favorite. It's not that joke. It's a different joke. It's a joke from a Netflix special that went viral about, like. And I was, you know, it was pretty. I just saw so many anti trans jokes and I was like, my mind is trained to go the other way.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

I have no bad feelings towards any group in this country. My. My process is what's funny in my head and it's to think differently a lot of the time with a joke. And I thought it was a funny. Take defending trans swimmers, like, the angle was basically like, who give. You don't give. People getting mad. I'm like, you don't watch women swimming. That was basically the bulk of the angle. But I told the person, I said, just so you know, I have a joke in my new special making fun of one trans person. Not all, but one trans person who really hated me. And she goes, oh, great. Like, I was like, I just don't want you to think that I'm like some like, savior. I'm literally just making jokes. That was literally. I just didn't want to. I don't want to get praise where you think I'm something I'm not. So as I said, I have no problem with anybody. I'm good with anybody. Until a person is an on their own basis. Just one person. But yeah, like, I'll have a joke defending women and then I'll have a joke making fun of women. Because that's what jokes are. I think they are. They are no one thing. They're whatever pops into my head at that time. If something is sound shitty and not like me, I'm not going to tell it. But, you know, yeah, I had like eight minutes of MeToo jokes that were pretty pro women in a special because to me, that's where my mind was at the time. I thought I heard a lot of guys doing jokes. Like, you can't do anything with women anymore. And I'm like, really? You're really having a hard time? Like, you just don't rape. That's really the main thing, you know, that's what they're pissed about. Like, it's not that big a deal. So that was what my mind was with the me too stuff. And I had a story about getting roofied in college. It was, like, a whole thing about, you know, to me, it was a hilarious time to be a man because of how low the bar was for men, you know? So that was what my head was with the MeToo stuff. And then, you know, it's like you go in phases. I have a joke now that, like, I have to, like, cut. Cause I think it's. Women feel it's hitting them too hard, and I'm like, damn, I liked it. I just thought it was a funny joke. Yeah, but sometimes you have jokes where you're like, I like this. I have a joke about the WNBA that's, like, pretty pro wnba, but women get pissed at that one. I'm like, shit, I guess I have to cut this one, too. So.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but how do you decide? I'd love to know how you decide that. Because you. Like I said, you're an honest comic and you're doing your thing. But I'd love to know how you choose this, especially in a world where everyone's trying to choose it for you.

[Sam Morrill]

The batting average has to be high enough that I'm not keeping it just to be stubborn, you know?

[Trevor Noah]

Okay. Okay, got it.

[Sam Morrill]

So look, if. If I like it and it's funny, that's part of it. But it's got to work. If it doesn't work, then something's wrong with it, as you just said with that. As you pointed out with the Tran thing. I think you're right. The swimming, the one I said earlier in the thing, I think you're right. But I'll have a joke that I think is really funny, and sometimes it'll kill. And then you're like. I always said, if a joke is getting groans in Portland, Oregon, you still got 10 years to tell it in St. Louis. You still got some legs to go in other parts of the country. But you're like, it's catching up. So if you want it to live forever, know you. You might want to drop it. I think. I think. Yeah. I think you just go with your gut. Ultimately, I have friends who I really trust. I tour with Gary Veder, and Gary's such a great joke writer, and I'll run jokes by him and Be like, is this too harsh? Because I don't want to ever. I didn't feel those jokes about women were pandering to women. I felt they were honest how I felt. And I felt like I can playfully call out men and women because I'm going to have more jokes about women because I'm straight and I date women. So my frustration is going to be more with women I date than just with my guy friends, who I don't really fight with that much. But, yeah, I mean, some of your relationship jokes are going to have bite, and they're going to be like, I always think of them like music. Like, it depends on the musician. Like, Bob Dylan's Colin Quinn has this great joke about how Bob Dylan, all his breakup songs are like, fuck you. Like, you know, how does it feel to be on your own? Like, they're so angry. But, you know, I listen to Leonard Cohen a lot and his music, his breakup songs are pretty nice. They're pretty much like, I fucked up. That's the tone of it, you know.

[Trevor Noah]

So it's like it's. It's over now. It's like, this is the journey. This is the. It's a different type of piece.

[Sam Morrill]

So it's really like, where's your mind and where's your heart at? Are you still broken or are you kind of healed and now it's kind of funny to you? I mean, I have a joke.

[Trevor Noah]

I like that, actually.

[Sam Morrill]

I have jokes about exes that I wouldn't. I'm like, oh, I'm not really. I was angry in that moment and it hit, but I was angry, and I'm not angry anymore. I'm kind of just like, oh, I'm at peace with it now. And, you know, and absence will make the heart grow fonder. So you don't think of that when you're in it. You're like, oh, my God, all we do is fight. And then after a while you're like, ah, she was cool. We both have problems. It was a bad match, really. So sometimes you're in those relationships where you're just so frustrated because it's just not. And you like the other person. And when it's good, it's great, but you just can't get along and you get mad at the other person, but you're like, no, we just weren't right. They're not a bad person. We just weren't right for each other. But in the moment, you can't articulate that. And it just comes out like, ugh, fuck you. You know, but after six months you're just like, yeah, I hope she's with someone who's better, you know, so that sets the tone. Sometimes you need to give yourself time, you know?

[Trevor Noah]

Sometimes you need to give yourself time.

[Eugene Causa]

Do you ever think you wish that your ex is with someone better?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, I do.

[Eugene Causa]

For real?

[Sam Morrill]

For real, for real. Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

I don't.

[Sam Morrill]

You hope she suffers forever?

[Eugene Causa]

I wish she's just chilling.

[Sam Morrill]

You hope she's in a wheelchair somewhere.

[Eugene Causa]

And then all of a sudden there's three guys and jumpsuits and three hockey sticks at the door. The doorman is upset. I'm like, how does it feel beyond.

[Sam Morrill]

Your own no Direction Home?

[Eugene Causa]

I got rolling stuff.

[Trevor Noah]

This is a man at peace, man.

[Sam Morrill]

That's what this is. I feel let's us to write that.

[Trevor Noah]

No, this is a man at peace.

[Sam Morrill]

I think, you know, I struggle with knowing what the tone for. Like, I'll have jokes hit all the way through.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Like, I was in Oklahoma over the weekend and I had had good, pretty good shows, I think. But then I came in, I did an hour at the Cellar, one of those like pop up hours, Fat Black pussycat. And I was like, man, some of these are getting groans. I don't know why they're getting groans. And wait, some of the stuff from Oklahoma. Yeah, some of the stuff that killed in Oklahoma. I'm like, wow, this really killed. And now I'm like, well, this what's got it to me. I like, part of the reason I tour is because I want to make it bulletproof. I want it to be really, really strong. But yeah, you do have to make judgment calls at the end of the day and say, is this, is this strong enough?

[Trevor Noah]

I think that's, that's probably one of the hardest parts and one of the most rewarding aspects of comedy is there comes a point when you have to decide how many is enough and whether or not you're even trying to go for the majority. Do you get what I'm saying? Because I think comedy a lot of the time is like democracy in that the majority is not always right. Yeah. Yeah, but it's also like the majority's not always right.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, for sure.

[Trevor Noah]

You know, like.

[Sam Morrill]

But that's a dangerous way to think.

[Trevor Noah]

No, but I think it's the way we should think. Yeah, it is dangerous, but I think it's the way we should think. Cause you go, damn if. Just because the most people are laughing at this joke doesn't necessarily mean that I have to believe that it's the Best version of the joke. You know what I mean? And that's what I think is great about it, is that it's dangerous and that it's precarious and that it's. It's wrong. And I always think comedy's like, yeah, it's like playing with nitroglycerin.

[Sam Morrill]

It's. Yeah, man.

[Trevor Noah]

One wrong move and boom, boom.

[Sam Morrill]

You know, saying the wrong thing is thrilling. So that's. That's. I get excited. I get excited when something goes. Because also, it's. We're. We're so blessed to get to perform for people that know us at the point. Like, people ask about, like, offend. I'm like, My craft doesn't really ever get offended because they know who I am, and they know that the motives aren't bad. They know that all I'm trying to do is make them laugh. So if I. If I missed them trying something new, I tried something over the weekend that bombed. It was a Harvey Weinstein, Joe. I did a joke about. It's a bad joke. It was about how he. How he hit up my friend and then was like, a gentleman. He was like, oh, I'm so sorry. And I was like, you never hear that story. And I was like, yeah, because he did the other shit. Like, that was the angle of the bit, but it just didn't really hit. And. And I was like, all right. And they. They're just like, cool, go. Go to the next one. They. They want it. They want me to throw shit at all. Yeah, they. And I find that comedy crowds are so sophisticated now that they know the process, they know that we're all trying new stuff. And they actually. Every once in a while, they'll be mad. I ran to a guy at a bar recently who goes, I saw you in Dania Beach. You were just reading out of a notepad. And I was like, well, I billed it as a workout show. He goes, well, I didn't read that. And I go, I don't know what to tell you. And he goes, the tickets were $40. I'm like, it's over. What do you want from me?

[Eugene Causa]

This is what I have to do.

[Sam Morrill]

To write an hour? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Had a bad night at my show, and my. He wouldn't let it go. My friend was like, what the fuck is wrong with the guy? I don't know. Let's go to another bar. He was so. I was like, I never. That's never happened.

[Trevor Noah]

I feel for that guy, though. Yeah, just. Just take a moment to consider it from his perspective. Right? You go out on a night. Let's say you bought tickets to, like, a Taylor Swift show.

[Eugene Causa]

Yes.

[Trevor Noah]

You go there, and then Taylor Swift is like, strumming on a guitar, but, like, getting every. Every note, tuning, barreling. And you're like, what am I doing here? And they go like, oh, yeah. That wasn't like a real show. That's like a. You know what I mean? I get it from his perspective.

[Sam Morrill]

Taylor's just like, fuck John Mayer. And she's like, whoa, Too much, Too much. I'm working it out.

[Trevor Noah]

I'm working the bit out.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

I'm working the bit out.

[Sam Morrill]

I'm so angry.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

Sam is an MMA fighter who met a gym dummy that can talk. I was like, so you're not punching for real?

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, that's exactly what I pretended.

[Eugene Causa]

You were not.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, no, I saw.

[Eugene Causa]

She did Saturday. So that's what you do.

[Sam Morrill]

I know. And you feel bad, too. But I also, like, I thought the crowd was in. I remember that gig. And I was like, oh, no, they were into it. I thought, yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

But I actually think what that man said to you is the perfect encapsulation. What I think has gone sort of wrong with society today. And I don't blame society for this. I think the system has put us in a situation where, you know, people love to talk about, like, cancel culture or one of the big things people still ask me. I've seen them ask you. They go like, can comedians even tell jokes anymore?

[Sam Morrill]

Are you so bored with that?

[Trevor Noah]

Can comedians. Every time they ask me, I'm like, man, come on. They're like, like, are people people?

[Sam Morrill]

No, I'm actually quitting. You didn't hear? We're retired.

[Trevor Noah]

People are so sensitive these days. Nobody laughs. Nobody.

[Sam Morrill]

And I'm like, no, they're trying to bond with you over that. And I'm like, now let's bond over something else, because I don't care.

[Eugene Causa]

That's what it is.

[Sam Morrill]

It's pretty much never a problem. The only thing that worries me comedically is these tech companies that only care about ad sales muting certain words. That's what worries me. Oh, that's interesting. When I see things like Instagram and they just bury. Like, if you say the word Nazi, and you're like, oh, but they don't know the context. But they don't know the context. But some AI thing is being like, bury this post because the word Nazi. Exactly.

[Trevor Noah]

Back to the book banning.

[Sam Morrill]

But you're like, okay, but that. So I can't make a joke condemning Nazis. And they're like, well, you. I'm like, well, this is like Nazi shit. Yeah, you're not allowed to even say it. So then gay, like, I think people, like, they'll post jokes where they're like, instead of kill yourself, they'll be like, I unalived myself. And I'm like, so now you're changing speech. And this, it worries me that comics will start writing for the algorithm and stuff. And I, and I also just think like, you know, they keep moving the goalpost and that's what it doesn't worry me about. Like, oh, you can't say this. My worry is about like them burying like you, you build this following a certain way. That's why I, I use this thing called punch up a lot now. That's why I post a lot of my videos. Because YouTube and, and, and it's also nice to have like a free speech thing that isn't like some crazed right wing thing. Like, yeah, I don't want to fucking be on Rumble. You know, I don't want to, I don't want to come follow me on Rumble. No, just punch up is cool because it's just like, you know, Instagram or YouTube, a lot of them just bury jokes now that are just like, oh, this isn't aligned with our values because.

[Trevor Noah]

We'Re not sure what it even means.

[Sam Morrill]

Basically it's like harder than Fallon. Like you used to put a set together for a late night set for like Fallon or one of these late night shows and they're like, you can't say this, you can't. I remember Nick Griffin, who's one of the best late night set comics ever. Like his Letterman sets I think are like, like, go watch Nick Griffin on Letterman. You want to see like a master class on just joke writing. But they made him change a joke of his that I loved, where he goes, you know, young women are filled with sugar and spice and everything nice. And I'm filled with anger and semen and shame. And I thought that was such like a poetic line. And they made him change it to anger and Prozac and shame. And I was like, semen. First off, it's a clinical term. And secondly, the alliteration made it funnier and flow. I hate when they change. But he's like the king of late night where it's like, you gotta open with self deprecating stuff and he just knew how to suck you in. It was great stuff.

[Trevor Noah]

When I was on Letterman, I did a joke and it Was I had a set and there was one part of the joke that had the word maybe. Oh, Hitler. Hitler was in the joke. In one part of the joke. And then there was another part of the joke where I talked about homeless people. Like, you know, and it wasn't. It wasn't slamming homeless people at all. It was just talking about bumping into a homeless person. And they came to me afterwards and I was like, man, I know the Hitler joke maybe. You know what I mean? And they came and they were like, hey, listen, we love the set. We just need you to change something. And I was like, yeah, I know. And they're like, yeah, man, we don't want you to stay homeless.

[Sam Morrill]

I knew that was coming.

[Trevor Noah]

I was like, yeah, wait, but the person was homeless. I was like, this is not the joke. Doesn't go against the home at all. Yeah, they're like, yeah. Would you rather. Can you rather say like crazy person or.

[Sam Morrill]

I was like, well, I was like, it's meaner.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, I don't think the person was crazy. Yeah, I think they just homeless.

[Sam Morrill]

Although I would rather be crazy than homeless.

[Trevor Noah]

Well. Oh, that's interesting.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Eugene Causa]

Wait, wait. I would choose homeless any day because I can always change my mind.

[Sam Morrill]

How do you know? How do you know? It's your mind, though. But you might say, when I'm homeless.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but you can be temporarily homeless.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, that's true, but temporarily. Yeah, that's the big difference.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but. But you are. You. You're temporarily homeless until you get a home.

[Sam Morrill]

But they were weird. I've. You're not the first comic I've heard. They're like, no homeless jokes on Letterman.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

It's a weird.

[Trevor Noah]

The word homeless, though. They were doing a similar thing. They were just going, the word homeless. Yeah, we don't want. And you're like, no, I'm not making a joke about a person being homeless.

[Sam Morrill]

They have homeless sponsors. Like, what? Why are you so mad? I don't get it. They had such weird rules on late night always.

[Trevor Noah]

But I think this is. This is the. This is. This is what we experience maybe in the world of, let's say late night TV back in the day and now it's becoming more ubiquitous. When you look at major tech companies, I think it's because we live in a world where corporations are less concerned about the actual issue and more about the appearance of caring about the actual issue. Do you know what I'm saying? So they don't care about a homeless person.

[Sam Morrill]

They conduct studies. They just don't Facebook. All these, like, studies. Young women are suicidal because they can't.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. Instagram is one of the worst things.

[Sam Morrill]

And they're like, are you gonna change anything? No, but we conducted the studies. Yeah, that's it.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but the appearance.

[Sam Morrill]

It's football. They're like, this is really bad for your brain. Are you gonna change anything? Nah, it's fucking. It's entertaining. No, we know guns are a problem. Are we gonna change anything?

[Trevor Noah]

No, no, no.

[Eugene Causa]

So it's window dressing.

[Sam Morrill]

We just wanna know there's a problem.

[Trevor Noah]

Yes. That's all it is. And so that's why I was saying what I think that guy reveals.

[Sam Morrill]

It's like when a woman tells you her problem, and you're just like, well, how can I fix it? She's like, I just wanted you to listen to the problem. That's basically what we're doing with everything in the country. That's all we're doing.

[Trevor Noah]

We're just listening to it.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, we're just listening. I now know why you have a problem.

[Trevor Noah]

What I'm saying. That guy revealed, funny enough, the one who complained about the notepad, he actually revealed what the real problem is. Context. So when he's saying to you. I didn't read that. I didn't see that. He came to your show not knowing that you're working material out.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

So to him, the promise that was sold to him was incorrect. He didn't have the context. And I actually think that's what's happened to comedy in the world, is that anyone who's in a comedy club, for the most part, they know that they're in a comedy club. They know Sam Morrill, they know Eugene Causa, they know Trevor. They know that, like, okay, you do a thing. But then what the Internet does is it strips the context away. And then they'll just throw you up there and being like the Jewish Mafia, and they'll be like, look at this guy and what he said about, you know. And they just take a clip and no one tells you. Samuerill is. They don't tell you about his family.

[Sam Morrill]

It was your White House speech. Yeah. It's become tribal. So it's like we're living in an echo chamber. This is. This is what will make me happy. And the algorithm knows you. I mean, it's sad when you realize when you look at your Explore page and you're like, oh, my God, this knows me so well.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, it's crazy.

[Sam Morrill]

And it's. And it realized how. Oh, my God, it's the most mundane I've ever seen.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Like, my whole algorithm is dudes eating sandwiches in their car. And then, you know. Because I guess I like watching people eat. It's like a Food Network type vibe.

[Trevor Noah]

I like how you're saying this like you're. You're not sure about this of yourself. You're like, I guess. I guess I like watching people.

[Sam Morrill]

I don't think I actually enjoy it, but I keep watching.

[Eugene Causa]

Are they in a drive through? Are they. Do you have a tray?

[Trevor Noah]

What was the first one you watched?

[Sam Morrill]

A lot of people who are just like, we're gonna see if this. If this sandwich is. Is overrated or underrated. It's a lot of that. And you're just like, all right. And then you just watch them eat it. Or they'll be like, these are the top restaurants in this area. And I'm like. Like, I don't like. I like food. I don't think of myself as, like, a insane foodie, but I guess a lot of my algorithm is like. Or old basketball story. So it'll be like that and. Or it'll be like, Kevin Garnett. Like, oh, man, I remember the time we busted LeBron's ass. I'm like, oh, this is my whole algorithm.

[Trevor Noah]

You know, I sometimes think that we should switch algorithms. Like, I wish there was a. A system where you could say, for a day, I just want to be in somebody else's algorithm.

[Sam Morrill]

Like being John Malkovich.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. I just want to. I just. Because I think to your point, we're living in a world now where everything that's. That is one thing I do miss, even though it was less convenient. One of the things I do miss about, like, linear television was that you had to sit through so much shit that wasn't for you.

[Sam Morrill]

Yes.

[Trevor Noah]

To get to the stuff that was for you. So.

[Sam Morrill]

And you'd also find stuff that you didn't know you liked.

[Trevor Noah]

That's exactly what I mean. So now I'm sitting through, like, Murder.

[Eugene Causa]

She Wrote with my mom, Murphy Brown on the Sunday.

[Trevor Noah]

Because I'm trying to get to the comedy. If you asked me as a child, do you like Frasier without me knowing? And I was like, what is Frasier? And you're like, well, it's this New York story, and it's this guy, and he's Seattle. Sorry. And he's a therapist, and this guy works at a radio station. And the dad.

[Sam Morrill]

I'd be like, and his brother's just basically him times 10.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah. And I just go like, I don't think this is for me. I would be like, listen, man, I'm eight years old. I don't think any of this is for me. But when I think of Niall and that whole family, just because I had to sit through it, it became. Do you know what I mean? It became, like, my thing.

[Sam Morrill]

It's incredible that he was just, like, out of his mind, whacked out on drugs the first few seasons. And he's. Kelsey Grammar. And he's just bringing it still.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, wait, I thought you meant the character.

[Sam Morrill]

No, no, no. Kelsey Grammer was just on drugs the first few seasons, like. And they had. They gave him interventions and stuff.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, he was killing it, though.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, he's unreal. I mean, he's like one of the best sitcom actors ever.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, yeah, easily.

[Sam Morrill]

But, yeah, they. They.

[Trevor Noah]

No, he was killing it. Good for you.

[Sam Morrill]

No, he's a phenom, obviously.

[Trevor Noah]

But then what? Did he stop? Did he.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, he got sober.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, good stuff.

[Sam Morrill]

The cast was, like, really loyal to him. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Trevor Noah]

And then the show got canceled.

[Sam Morrill]

No, it made it like, 13 jokers. What was it?

[Trevor Noah]

13? You know those stories where it ends like that? Then the cast came together like, kelsey, you can't do this anymore. And then he stopped, and then it wasn't funny. And they got canceled. They're like, all right, Kelsey, I'm gonna need to take some of this shit right here.

[Eugene Causa]

He brought a bag.

[Sam Morrill]

That would be great, though, if he got sober. And he just. Really. Wow. You're really. You gotta get back on there.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, man. You just gotta. Yeah, no, this is. This is not working for us. Do you see yourself getting into film tv?

[Sam Morrill]

I've written a bunch of stuff. Yeah, I wrote.

[Trevor Noah]

For yourself to be in.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, I wrote. I'm making a movie with Gary Veder. It's like a mockumentary. I'm filming it now. It's like Spinal Tapping about my tour. It's pretty fun. We got a lot of funny cameos in it. I'm really pleased with it. And then I wrote a movie with Mark Norman. Hopefully gonna film next year.

[Trevor Noah]

You guys are funny, man.

[Sam Morrill]

I love Mark.

[Trevor Noah]

You guys are, like, funny, funny.

[Sam Morrill]

I love that, dude. And. And then we have. I wrote. Dude, it's very hard to make shows. You know, I wrote a show that I got Brian Cox, the actor, attached to and to play my dad. And we're basically. We're still having a hard time selling it, but I love. I wrote it with Mike Lawrence, who's an incredible writer, just like a phenomenal writer. And we'll see if we can sell it. But it's. I mean, just getting Brian Cox to be like, yeah, I love this script. I'm in. It's crazy to see him on pitch calls, too, because his presence is, like, unmatched.

[Trevor Noah]

It's the Brian Cox talking about Brian Cox.

[Sam Morrill]

Brian Cox, yeah. Succession Brian Cox, yeah. You think his first project after succession week, it would be a slam dunk, but I guess they're looking at my face. They're like, ugh. I don't know. But I think the script is amazing. I think that's how we got him. So I hope we figure that out.

[Trevor Noah]

I mean, that would be amazing.

[Sam Morrill]

But I was so angry during pitches. How long? Because, you know, these companies, like, these people don't work. You're, like, sitting a meeting with a company, and they're like, cool, can you meet next month? And you're like, like, yeah, I guess next month, sure. And then they're like, oh, they're out on vacation this week. And I'm like, all right, next week? They're like, next week we're actually closed. And then they're like, okay, well, how about the day after? They're like, well, that's MLK day. We take that whole week off. And you're like, all right, how about next year? Can we push next year? So we did that, and it was literally. And then on top of that, you take, like, a month to hear after that. So. So. So you. And I'm. I'm so. I'm a doer. I'm not. So that's why I'm making my own thing with Gary. We have. I think that movie's really good. But then during the time, I was so angry that no one was doing this. I was like, I'm gonna write another movie. So I just wrote a movie about, like, a basketball comedy. So I think I'm gonna try to do something with that next year, too. I'll just. I'm gonna tour a little less next year. I'm burnt out from touring the last season.

[Trevor Noah]

How many dates do you. Did you do?

[Sam Morrill]

I don't know how many I did this year. I did, like, 50 in the first three months on the tour bus.

[Trevor Noah]

That's a hell of a lot.

[Sam Morrill]

And then I'll do, like, weekends here and there just to kind of keep it tight. But, yeah, so I'll do, like, theaters the first half of the year, but I'm doing some clubs again. I'm doing Europe coming up, so I'm pumped to go back to Europe. Then like, Chicago, New York, just stuff like that to, you know, do like, fun shows. But I do, I do a lot of the road. I'm surrounded by comics who are just psychos. So when you come up with Mark Normand and guys like that who are just like, they never take a night off. Oh, if I don't do four sets in a night, am I a piece of shit? Maybe. I don't know. So you're surrounded by these kind of psychosis. It motivates you for sure.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, man, I'm excited. I'm excited to see, like, where it goes, how it goes. Cause it's been fun watching, you know. I said this to you the other day when we're talking. I said something a lot of people don't get about comedy. This is just my opinion, but is a lot of the time people will go, they'll say to me, like, oh, that comic is funny and that comic isn't. And I go, no, no, no. Sometimes I think what you're missing is the time is just meeting up with the comic and their talents. Do you know what I mean? Louis CK Was funny forever. And then something in and around the recession connected with him. And people were like, this is my guy. And this feeling connects with me. And then they rolled.

[Sam Morrill]

It was him talking about his kids.

[Trevor Noah]

Exactly.

[Sam Morrill]

He broke him.

[Trevor Noah]

Exactly. And then Kevin Hart was funny forever. And then something connected around that time. People are like, this is the guy. So I feel like there's so many comedians where people will tell a comedian, I don't know, or no, they're funny now. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now is just catching up to their funny. And I feel like we're witnessing your nowness. No.

[Sam Morrill]

And so nice.

[Trevor Noah]

No, but I mean this genuinely. I love comedy. I'm not. I'll tell you this, it's not even about niceness. I'm just. I love.

[Sam Morrill]

I love comedy so much. Yeah, no, I. I love what we do. I mean, I feel very fortunate. Like, I. I am excited. I'm almost always excited to work, which is pretty cool. Yeah, I'm always. And like, even writing, I get pretty pumped to look over stuff. I, you know, I don't really feel drained from what I do. And that's why people are like, why don't you take more time off? I enjoy it. I really do like it. I understand I have to do other stuff just to live to have stories, but I'll do so many of my best bits are me making a terrible drunken decision that led to A Night of Regret. And I'm like, oh, that's a bit. That's a story. So I'll still do that. I just think it's hard to not work when you love what you're doing.

[Eugene Causa]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

You found your purpose. And I love going up and. And part of why I'm always at the Comedy Cellar, just like, oh, I just. I live walking distance from there. It's fun to just, you know, go up and just be like, let me try these ideas.

[Trevor Noah]

Well, you know, what's funny is people will often not like the broader. But some people might judge a comedian for that. They'd be like, you're always there. Yeah. I remember once saying this to them. They're like, you're always at the Cellar. And I was like, yeah, you're always in your office.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

Every day, Monday to Friday, you are at the office from 8 until 5.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, I'm only there for 15 minutes. What the hell are you doing?

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, I might be here every day for, like. Like 45 minutes, an hour, two hours at most. It's like, yeah, you relax. You know what I mean? This is your office and you love it at the same time.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. You're touring like crazy. Right.

[Trevor Noah]

I've slowed down now, so I spend more time in South Africa. I've slowed down. I. Cause you know what it is, is there's an interesting thing that happens, and it can happen to you anywhere in the world, but America's very good at.

[Sam Morrill]

Amplifying this gun violence.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, man. Is America is the land of more.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

Right. So if you can do 50 dates, you want to do 60 dates?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

You want to do 70 dates? You know, we can add a second show that night.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

What do you think about a third show? Have you ever done those?

[Eugene Causa]

Four.

[Trevor Noah]

How many?

[Sam Morrill]

Four.

[Trevor Noah]

You know, afternoon shows have gotten real popular. You could do a 1pm and then 5pm and the thing I've learned is one of the reasons America is the economic powerhouse of the world is because it's the land of more. Like quarterly earnings. Get that money up, pump that thing, get it going. But I also think one of the reasons it's, you know, one of the most, like, depressed, violent, and unequal places, despite how much money it has, is because it's the land of more. So the thing I'm trying to search for in life is that balance. Like you're saying, I don't ever want to hate comedy because I chased the money side of comedy and not the comedy side of comedy, because none of us here Got into it for the money.

[Sam Morrill]

Originally, there wasn't the money.

[Trevor Noah]

Remember that time?

[Sam Morrill]

I mean, I was like, I was so satisfied to be just like a guy who played clubs on the road.

[Trevor Noah]

It's the best feeling in the world.

[Sam Morrill]

I was just, like, looking at people who had that career and I was like, that would be amazing.

[Trevor Noah]

It's the best feeling in the world. Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Cause I remember the first time you started headlining. You're like, this is amazing. It's my show. I get to, you know, know. It's so cool. So, yeah, the money is great. But. And obviously, you know, there is that fear that it could. It could go away and. And all that stuff. But. But yeah, no, it's. It's so freaking fun. That's. I mean, I. I think comedy movies are fun. I love movies. So I want to do. There's other stuff I want to do, but Stand Up's always going to be number one.

[Trevor Noah]

Stand up will be the base.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

Hopefully, if. If we leave this earth before seeing you make some sort of noir comedy sl. Something, something, or play Luigi Mangioni, it.

[Sam Morrill]

Would have been, oh, dude, I'm not in good enough shape for that. Come on, that kid was rich.

[Trevor Noah]

I mean, that's what. That's the whole. That's the whole point. The transformation.

[Sam Morrill]

The transformation. I think I'm too old, too.

[Trevor Noah]

No, that's the transformation. Come on, we got AI. Come on, man.

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, yeah, but we saw that in the Irishman. That was rough. Dude, we don't want to see Old ass Sam shooting a guy.

[Trevor Noah]

All right, before we wrap up, give us a list of movies we gotta watch. Everyone says this about you. They go, samrill, the movie buff.

[Sam Morrill]

I just like movies. Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't. Don't say that. You are like a savant when it comes to. You don't. Just like, I like movies. I'm the kind of guy who'll recommend leatherheads. I just like movies, you know, Movies. Give us five movies we have to watch. Okay, so what's the one you said on the bus that everyone started?

[Sam Morrill]

Oh, that was called the Big Heat.

[Trevor Noah]

Okay. The Big Heats.

[Sam Morrill]

It's a cool movie. It's like a copper unhinged copper revenge movie. And this actress, Gloria Graham, is in it as well. And she was like, awesome actress of her era. She's in It's a Wonderful Life. She's in. In this great Humphrey Bogart movie called In a Lonely Place. And she's famous for banging her stepson and then marrying him in real Life in real life. And that got her like, basically thrown out of Hollywood. But she's a great actress.

[Trevor Noah]

Cancel culture.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Trevor Noah]

Damn.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, dude. She was a. She was. She was a wild one. But then.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, that's more than just a wild one.

[Sam Morrill]

Big Heat's a good one.

[Trevor Noah]

Banging your stepson is more than just a wild.

[Sam Morrill]

I'll go another old noir from the forties called Double Indemnity. That's like the prototype. It's like, it's perfect. It's like 90 minutes. I love a 90 minute movie. Tight script, hard, hard, killer dialogue.

[Trevor Noah]

Okay.

[Sam Morrill]

And yeah, it's Fred McMurray, Barbara Stanwyck, and you gotta know Edward G. Robinson. I mean, old school, like talks like this, shit like that talk. Love that, sonny. Yeah. And then I'll give you one more noir from those old ones. I just love these movies because the scripts are airtight and for a movie to stand the test of time, like 80 years or whatever, old to me, you have to have such a tight script and has to. And it has to be relevant, you know, like, it has to hit in the feelings of like, you know, morality that haven't changed. So out of the Past is a big one for me. Robert Mitchum, awesome movie. I now I'll go a little more modern. Let me think. Modern. Fuck. Should I go all noir? That'd be.

[Trevor Noah]

We know modern.

[Sam Morrill]

Just give us.

[Eugene Causa]

Okay, we have 59.

[Sam Morrill]

Here's one from the 90s that not enough people have seen. Sam Raimi, movie called A Simple Plan. I love that movie. That's from the 90s. That's an awesome one.

[Eugene Causa]

Who's on it?

[Sam Morrill]

Bill Paxton. RIP. Great actor.

[Trevor Noah]

Okay.

[Sam Morrill]

He was in a lot of movies. Billy Bob Thornton, Bridget Fonda. Good cast. Billy Bob's unreal in it. It gives this monologue in it that you're like. It breaks you. It's so good. I'll go. Another shit, man. I'll go. This one's kind of obvious, but I love it. Fargo killer. Okay, that one. I love that one too.

[Trevor Noah]

I've seen one.

[Sam Morrill]

You've seen Fargo. Fargo's killer, right?

[Trevor Noah]

At least I've got one. Yeah, this is good.

[Eugene Causa]

I've got a 15 hour flight coming up.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, man. You're gonna do it?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. Hell yeah. I'll send you some more if you want.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, we'll take them.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, man.

[Trevor Noah]

Come join us again.

[Sam Morrill]

I would love to, man. It's great talking to you.

[Trevor Noah]

Thanks for coming through. Thanks for being sweaty. My pleasure.

[Sam Morrill]

Can I tell you, Carnegie Hall, December 4th.

[Trevor Noah]

Do you have like a website.

[Sam Morrill]

Y samrill.com shows. Or you could just go to Punchup Live. Sam Morrell.

[Trevor Noah]

Okay.

[Sam Morrill]

Everything's there. But yeah, I'm all over London, Dublin, Paris.

[Trevor Noah]

Which one of these has a notepad and which one doesn't?

[Sam Morrill]

None of them. I'm locked in right now. There's no notepad.

[Trevor Noah]

I just want. I don't want the same thing to happen.

[Sam Morrill]

It's a locked in show.

[Trevor Noah]

All right. No notepad.

[Sam Morrill]

I've never been to a lot of these. I've never been to Berlin. I've never been to Milan. I'm doing shows, these places. So I'm pumped.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, you're going to love Berlin.

[Sam Morrill]

I'm pumped.

[Trevor Noah]

You're going to love Berlin.

[Sam Morrill]

I'm excited.

[Trevor Noah]

That's one of my favorite places to do conference comedy.

[Sam Morrill]

I'm excited. Yeah, I'm all over.

[Eugene Causa]

So do you have any recommendations as to where he could go in Berlin?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, there's a sex club.

[Eugene Causa]

Go hang out. I feel like perhaps a nightlife kind of excursion where he might.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, Berghain.

[Eugene Causa]

Oh, there is that.

[Sam Morrill]

The sex club.

[Eugene Causa]

Oh, have you heard of it?

[Trevor Noah]

I don't think. I don't think. To call it a sex club is to. Is to diminish it. It's like it's focusing on the aspect of it that is the most shocking to most people.

[Sam Morrill]

Gotcha.

[Trevor Noah]

But Berghain is also arguably the best nightclub in the world. I think they've won the award for best sound system 10 years running, maybe more. Stands to be corrected. Yeah. But like, easily. It was one of the best sound systems because it's perfectly in phase. So you don't even realize how bad most sound systems are when you go out because the sound is just loud. And then the sound system at Berghain is so perfectly tuned that you can have a conversation like this while the music is like thumping away. Cause the sound waves are perfect. Does that make sense? It's like perfectly calibrated. The room is measured. Everything. Any DJ you talk to in the world who's like a dj, dj, they go, man, playing at Berghain. Cause people will go there to dance from Friday night until Monday. Monday night. I think it goes. Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Are you a dancer?

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, I love it.

[Sam Morrill]

I'm not really a dancer.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, no.

[Sam Morrill]

Go.

[Trevor Noah]

It doesn't matter if you can get into Berghain, Go. Like, if you can get in, go. But you might not.

[Sam Morrill]

It's a tough.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, but it's not a tough door. Cause it's fancy. It's a tough door. Cause they're just like, nah, you're not gonna fit the vibe.

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Vibe?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, I'm probably not gonna.

[Eugene Causa]

What's the vibe inside there?

[Trevor Noah]

The vibe is just whatever. It started as a. It was like a gay club originally and then like, it was just like very free and non judgmental. And then I just, I think they want to maintain that. They're just like, yo, don't. Don't come judgy vibes here. Don't come.

[Eugene Causa]

Sam would fit right in.

[Trevor Noah]

Yeah, you would.

[Sam Morrill]

Actually.

[Trevor Noah]

He's a non judgy guy. He just wants to have a judgy at all. Yeah, just go.

[Sam Morrill]

And I judge a little, but it's like, it's one like I pick apart, but then I'm like, nah, but you're good. That's.

[Trevor Noah]

That's fine.

[Eugene Causa]

You know who would also fit in there? A photographer based on what he did in the past.

[Sam Morrill]

Don't remind me. Don't hotbox that box.

[Trevor Noah]

When you find out what happens at Berghain, you'll understand the little nugget this man left you with. All right, Sam Morrell. Thank you, man. Appreciate it, buddy.

[Sam Morrill]

Thank you, guys.

[Trevor Noah]

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