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Episode: Will Trump Try to Get a Declaration of War?

Host: Jeremy Stern
Guest: Walter Russell Mead
Release Date: April 1, 2026
Publisher: Tablet Magazine

Episode Overview

This episode breaks from the podcast’s standard “news vs. faux news” structure to tackle the abundance of speculative headlines and rumors swirling around the war with Iran and President Trump’s unpredictable war strategy. Historian Walter Russell Mead and co-host Jeremy Stern analyze the latest political, diplomatic, and military developments, discuss the possibility and implications of a congressional declaration of war, and compare presidential wartime leadership styles throughout American history.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sorting Hype from Substance in Iran War Headlines

Timestamp: 00:05–04:42

• Speculative Environment:
  Numerous headlines suggest major developments—Trump threatening escalation, Iran hinting at negotiations, and China-Pakistan offering mediation.
  Mead: “I don't see any wheat in there is the problem.” (01:33)

• Trump’s Strategy: Strategic Ambiguity
  Trump’s hallmark both in domestic and foreign affairs is to maintain maximum uncertainty about his next move:

  “You may think he is about to nuke Tehran or else he's about to cede control of the Strait of Hormuz to Iran... all of those options are kind of open and that's the way he wants it to be.” (01:54)

  • This creates volatility but also allows him to maneuver freely, keeping both allies and adversaries guessing.

• Market Stability Amid War:
  Trump modulates his rhetoric to influence financial markets.

  “When he wants markets to stabilize, he says dovish things. And when he wants markets to, you know, when he doesn't care, he might be more hawkish.” (03:32)

• Role of China and Pakistan:
  Chinese and Pakistani mediation may be more of a diplomatic show than a genuine breakthrough; China’s economic interest aligns with market stability.

  “China does not actually want crazy financial or commodities markets either. It would like an early end to the war...” (04:25)

2. The Military Campaign: Progress and Stalemate

Timestamp: 04:42–06:51

• Military Effectiveness and Diminishing Returns:
  The US and Israel have destroyed key assets and leaders, but the campaign stalls at more fortified, elusive, or less valuable targets.

  “First 80% is the easy part, and then the last 20% can take 80% of the effort.” (05:27)

  • It's now about tough, well-defended positions, not early easy victories.
  • The challenge is not Iranian military resistance but the inherent difficulty of remaining objectives.

3. NATO, Diplomacy, and Trumpian Politics

Timestamp: 06:51–13:33

• European Reluctance:
  NATO allies, especially France, are declining deeper involvement and, in some cases, obstructing US operations.

  • Mead attributes this to:
    • Profound European distrust and dislike of Trump.
    • European leaders’ calculation that aiding Trump won't generate goodwill or reciprocal support.

  “Public opinion, let me state this very carefully and in a limited way, loathes, hates and despises Donald Trump pretty much from Istanbul to Hammerfest in Norway.” (10:43)

• Political Calculus for Trump, Rubio, and Vance:
  Criticizing Europe energizes the America First base and provides political leverage for figures like Rubio and Vance.

  “Europe bashing rhetoric probably makes it go over better in MAGA world than anything else. And for Trump, that's important.” (08:42)

• Implications for Transatlantic Relations:
  Europe’s reluctance could damage its standing with future US leaders—even with the non-MAGA public.

  • However, Mead notes past US ingratitude towards European support in previous conflicts.

  “If you behave like a jerk and a bully, should you ever find that you need friends, they may be hard to find.” (12:26)

4. Should Trump Seek a Declaration of War?

Timestamp: 14:24–21:46

• Clarification of Mead’s Position:
  Stern mischaracterizes Mead’s Tablet column as outright advocating for a declaration of war; Mead clarifies he only outlined the potential logic behind such a move.

  “I did not actually recommend it, but what I did say was that there are a lot of advantages to an American president in war by having a congressional declaration.” (14:43)

• Presidential Powers Expanded by Declaration:
  A declaration of war unlocks vast executive powers:

  • Restoration of tariff authority
  • Increased power to deport noncitizens
  • Control of transportation and media
  • Potential to suppress dissent (historical precedents: Wilson, FDR, Lincoln)

  “Woodrow Wilson jailed political opponents, censored the news, FDR censored the news, interned the Japanese Americans... Abraham Lincoln had 300 newspaper editors jailed...” (15:54)

• Why Trump Might Want It:

  • Domestic leverage and political strength
  • A blaming strategy if Congress refuses
  • The ability to reframe the war as patriotic, shifting blame for setbacks

• Likelihood and Risk:

  • Mead is ambivalent: while it could help achieve war aims, giving Trump such powers is worrying given historical abuses.

  “If we were going to have a president with those war powers, I would rather it be someone else...” (19:40)

  • Suggests Congress might try to tailor the declaration to limit abuse.

5. Wartime Presidential Leadership: Best and Worst

Timestamp: 22:03–25:53

• Best Wartime Presidents:

  • Abraham Lincoln for successfully navigating both military and political challenges—especially understanding when to shift strategies.
  • Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) for strategic leadership in WWII, sometimes undervalued compared to Churchill.

  “Roosevelt made a lot of very important and very good choices, not least of which was naming Eisenhower to be the supreme commander in Europe.” (23:40)

• Worst Wartime Leader:

  • Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam War):
    • Poor strategy driven by political fear and gradual escalation, resulting in a costly, prolonged war with unclear objectives.

  “You end up with a war that is being done in part to avoid political embarrassment for president. That's not a great reason for that.” (24:32)

  • Notes the exceptional quagmire of Vietnam and scale of the American commitment.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It's possible that Donald Trump doesn't know what he's going to do in the moment.” (02:54, Mead)
• “Markets are down since the war began. But the last time I looked today, NASDAQ was up over 3%.” (03:11, Mead)
• “If you behave like a jerk and a bully, should you ever find that you need friends, they may be hard to find.” (12:26, Mead)
• “One of the reasons that presidential war powers are so strong is in order to kind of cement the nation's will to fight.” (16:53, Mead)
• “If somebody like FDR could lock up all the Japanese Americans and have it, by the way, upheld by the courts, what would Donald Trump do with this authority?” (20:44, Mead)
• “Here we are.” (12:59, Mead; repeated refrain for the episode’s unresolved state)

Segment Timestamps

• 00:05 – Opening, context, and speculative headlines overview
• 01:33 – Analysis of Trump’s war strategy and market impacts
• 04:42 – Progress and limits of the military campaign
• 06:51 – NATO and Europe’s diplomatic response, US political rhetoric
• 14:24 – Declaration of war: rationale, risks, and historical powers
• 19:40 – Would a declaration be good for the country?
• 22:03 – Best and worst wartime presidents in US history

Tone and Style

The discussion is characteristically sharp, occasionally sardonic, and dense with historical references and political analysis. Mead’s tone is critical but nuanced, particularly regarding the perils of expanded presidential war powers under Trump. Stern provides a blend of probing questions and dry humor ("blame the Los Angeles public school system...").

Summary

This episode offers a deep, unsensationalized look behind the headlines about the Iran war and Trump’s war strategy. It moves beyond speculation to analyze the logic, risks, and potential results of Trump’s ambiguity, the mixed signals from global actors, the reluctance (and rationale) of US allies, and the dangerous allure of a formal declaration of war. The historical perspective on presidential war powers and leadership makes the episode both timely and timeless for listeners interested in how current events echo—or break with—the past.