Bob The Drag Queen

Summary

"What's Our Podcast?" with Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney

Episode: Bob The Drag Queen
Release Date: January 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of "What's Our Podcast?" features the inimitable Bob the Drag Queen as Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney continue their playful quest to figure out what their podcast is actually about. The trio discusses comedy, drag, masculinity, childhood snacks, sleep, parenting, and The Lion King, while trying to settle on a new podcast concept—eventually landing on "Beta Boys" as a tongue-in-cheek alternative to macho podcaster culture.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

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Banter and Format (01:29–13:40)

• Seasoned Comic Chemistry: Beck and Kyle riff about mistaken identities, improv bits, and their history, setting a silly, warm, and inviting tone.
• Podcast Identity Crisis: They joke about the show’s premise and their ongoing confusion about its theme:
  • "Honestly, we're trying to figure out what Our podcast is." (04:46, Beck)
• Reflection on 2025: Beck and Kyle share personal highlights and struggles of the previous year, including creative projects, touring, and parenting.
  • “I still battle…internal demons, you know what I mean? I still face a lot of the self doubt and self criticism…” (12:53, Kyle)

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Welcoming Bob the Drag Queen (13:45–15:07)

• Intro: They introduce Bob the Drag Queen, highlighting his many talents and acknowledging his music.
• Light Roast & Holiday Spirit: Friendly teasing and exchange of compliments set the vibe.

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Bob’s Work with Madonna & Touring (18:33–20:48)

• Hosting Madonna's Tour: Bob shares his experience as the MC for Madonna’s 40th anniversary world tour, including learning to introduce her in multiple languages.
  • "The last show was a…record breaking show on the Copacabana beach in Brazil. We did perform for like 1.6 million people." (20:00, Bob)
• Nerves and Adrenaline: Bob talks about excitement, not nerves, being his fuel onstage.

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Navigating Masculinity and Emotional Openness (21:08–23:41)

• Male Friendship & Vulnerability: The group laughs about “straight guy” behavior, rejecting macho norms in favor of kindness.
  • “You two are aesthetically straight…But emotionally, very Silver Lake.” (22:29, Bob)
• Growing Up: Bob details his childhood moving across the South and clears up misconceptions about his mother’s drag club.
  • “People think I was at the club…I was a child. I was never at the drag…only time I was in the club was during the day when they were cleaning it.” (23:28, Bob)

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Comedy, Drag, and Alter Egos (30:58–34:01)

• Origin Story:
  • Bob describes his transition from writing stand-up sets to performing in drag in New York, and how drag is less an alter ego and more his “work clothes.”
    • “Drag is not an alter ego for me…Bob is my nickname…drag is just like my work clothes.” (32:07, Bob)
• Stand-Up Focus:
  • He explains most of his performances now are standup in drag—not necessarily lip-sync shows.

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The “Beta Boys” Podcast Concept (35:01–40:07)

• Diagnosing Podcast Trends:
  • Bob critiques the epidemic of “alpha male” podcasts and offers up the idea for "Beta Boys," a show where “soft straight men can communicate, but also make it kind of cool.”
    • “They need someone older to look up to who they find cool and interesting.” (36:12, Bob)
• Title Brainstorming:
  • The hosts and Bob riff on possible names: Soy Boy, Beta Bros, Softies, Soft Hard Guys, Beta Boys.
    • "Beta Boys is honestly kind of iconic." (39:45, Bob)
• Audience Demographics:
  • They note their audience is 70% male, aged 20–30, making the Beta Boys concept timely.

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Watches, Symbols, and “Guy” Culture (41:09–45:34)

• Rolex Talk:
  • Beck’s watch sparks discussion about status symbols and the performative side of “masculinity.”
    • "A lot of guys like to wear big watches…to be like, I’m a man…But now I’m kind of like, eh." (42:51, Beck)
• “Expert” Culture:
  • Kyle critiques the need for people to be ‘experts’ about trivial things.

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Favorite Movies & Lion King Deep Dive (46:14–58:58)

• Favorite Films:
  • Bob names The Color Purple and The Lion King his favorites; the group marvels at Oprah’s versatility and the emotional gravity of Lion King.
• Lion King Analysis:
  • Bob offers a passionate, layered reading of Lion King characters:
    • “Scar is not toxic masculinity. Scar is a nasty gay bitch. Scar is a bitter, mean, old gay guy.” (51:28, Bob)
    • Describes Scar as alienated, Timon and Pumbaa as bohemian/gay uncles, Zazu as a narc, etc.
  • Emotional impact, gaslighting, and psychological complexity in kids’ films are all discussed.
    • “I was 8…watching him try to wake up his dead father…he’s been gaslit…did I kill my dad?” (49:31–49:35, Bob)

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Snacks, Guilty Pleasures, and Food Culture (58:30–68:03)

• Honey Bun Segment:
  • Bob introduces the group to honey buns, sharing it’s a cultural touchstone, especially in Black communities.
    • “I found out recently that white people don't eat honey buns." (59:18, Bob)
  • They conduct a live taste test and discuss their snack histories, including Little Debbie, Hostess, favorite chips, and “guilty pleasures.”
    • “Baby, I don't care if they 3D printed this honey bun, I would still eat it." (67:37, Bob)
• Snack Recommendations:
  • Bob recommends Albanese gummy bears, her brand cheddar jalapeño poppers, and the Muncho chip.

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Sleep, Travel, and Life Hacks (68:12–73:44)

• On Sleep:
  • The conversation shifts to wild trends among the wealthy (blood transfusions for youth), sleep habits, and struggles with plane travel.
• Flight Rants:
  • Bob kvetches about not being allowed to lay flat on a plane and being woken up for “microwave Hungry Man meal.”
• Doctor Fantasies:
  • The hosts and Bob hilariously imagine which type of doctor they’d be, with Bob favoring plastic surgery for self-empowerment.

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Closing Moments, Plugs, and Broadway (79:31–81:56)

• Podcast Review:
  • Bob reflects: “I think the podcast went well. I can't shut the up. I'll just keep talking forever.” (79:26, Bob)
• New Projects:
  • Bob plugs his studio, Purse First Studios, and upcoming podcasts and content (e.g., the "Big Question" series).
  • Shares Broadway debut details for Moulin Rouge (Jan 2026).
• Beck’s Broadway Debut:
  • Beck shares his own upcoming New York stage stint.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Podcast Purpose and Masculinity:

  • "I think that there is a space of where, like, soft, straight men can communicate, but also make it kind of cool." (36:12, Bob)
  • "Beta Boys is honestly kind of iconic." (39:45, Bob)

• On Drag and Identity:

  • "Drag is not an alter ego for me…Bob is my nickname…drag is just like my work clothes." (32:07, Bob)

• On The Lion King’s Characters:

  • “Scar is not toxic masculinity. Scar is a nasty gay bitch. Scar is a bitter, mean, old gay guy who's a product of his surroundings. It's not his fault.” (51:28, Bob)
  • "They raised him to be the man he became." (78:17, Bob, on Timon and Pumbaa’s impact)

• On Snacks:

  • "I don't care if they 3D printed this honey bun, I would still eat it." (67:37, Bob)

• Vulnerability Around Self-Doubt:

  • “I still face a lot of the self doubt and self criticism that I've faced throughout my life.” (12:53, Kyle)

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Key Timestamps by Segment

• 01:29 – 13:40: Beck and Kyle riffing, podcast purpose, 2025 reflection
• 13:45 – 20:48: Bob intro, Madonna tour, nerves/adrenaline
• 21:08 – 34:01: Masculinity, friendship dynamics, childhood, drag/comedy beginnings
• 35:01 – 40:07: The "Beta Boys" concept, riffing on podcast culture
• 41:09 – 45:34: Watches and masculine status symbols
• 46:14 – 58:58: Favorite movies, deep Lion King breakdown
• 58:30 – 68:03: Honey buns, snack food, cultural connections
• 68:12 – 73:44: Sleep habits, plane travel, imagining different doctor jobs
• 79:31 – 81:56: Podcast feedback, plugs for Bob’s and Beck’s Broadway debuts

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode is playful, meandering, and filled with big laughs—delivering both in-depth discussion of under-examined cultural topics (masculinity, drag, movies, and snacks) and affectionate, self-deprecating banter. Bob the Drag Queen is a charismatic, insightful guest whose perspectives on pop culture and comedy add richness and humor to Beck and Kyle’s lighthearted confusion.

A must-listen for fans of SNL, drag, alternative comedy, and anyone interested in the evolving landscape of podcast bro-culture (or those just looking for snack recommendations).

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Summary prepared for listeners who want the highlights, best jokes, and wisdom from Bob the Drag Queen's appearance—without missing the spirit of the show.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[B]

What's our podcast? What's it gonna be all about? Tell us what's our podcast? What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle? We're filming Kyle. Whoa, whoa. Glasses on.

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Welcome to the podcast show with Jason and Me.

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Kyle, me, Kyle, and Jason have on the show. We're gonna bring you. Ho, ho, ho. It's Christmas time, don't you know?

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But not when you're listening to this.

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No, no, no, no. Not when you're listening to this. I fell off the rhythm just a little bit. It was a perfect song.

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What's up, everybody? And welcome to what's Our Podcast with Kyle and Jason.

[B]

Yes. Jason is not my name, dude. My name is Beck. Beck Bennett. I've known you since USC from September. So, like, the fact that you're calling me Jason is really, really pissing me off. I'm about to walk out. I'm about to walk all over you on my way out, too. I'm about to stomp you. I'm about to grab you and wring you out like an old towel. Like a dirty, wet towel that I use to clean up my messes at home.

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I had no idea I was fucking around. I thought I was always. Sometimes I think maybe we start with the big energy at the top, and it kind of helps us roll into the show, but I didn't know that it would actually hurt your feelings in the way that it did.

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So you knew that my name was Beck?

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I know for a minute.

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You've known for a minute.

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I known since back in the day.

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Dude.

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I remember because I remember.

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I am sorry that I overreacted about the.

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You didn't overreact. You reacted. You got reacted perfectly. Here I am. I'm coming at you with all this. I'm like, hey, this will be a Jason. Ding. Dummy Jason.

[B]

Right? It's like, you know?

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah.

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Like, you didn't ask for that, right?

[B]

I didn't come in here saying, like, call me Jason today.

[C]

No one did that. Not even the producers, right? No one did that.

[B]

Nobody was. No. There wasn't, like, a banner that said, like, today's like, no, that was all.

[C]

Me, and that was all my April Fools, and it's time that I own April Fools is not April Fools. And it's time that I owned up to what I did earlier.

[B]

It's all good, dude. You've always been my boy. And, like, I honestly should have given you the benefit of the doubt. I should have actually given you the benefit of the doubt. Been like, I'm sure he's just messing around just because, honestly, sometimes you call me Ben because Ben sounds like Beck, and that's funny to me. But Jason, I was like, does he?

[C]

Ben is funny.

[B]

That's funny, dude. Whenever you call me Ben, I should have done Ben.

[C]

I was like, why did I do Jason?

[B]

Yeah, Jason caught me off guard. I was like, I've never heard that before. Does Kyle not know what my name is, actually?

[C]

So the whole time you're like, oh, he actually might not even know.

[B]

He actually didn't know who I was.

[C]

Even though we've done, like, all these episodes and the SNL thing together. Sure, you heard me call you back also.

[B]

And it's like, live from New. Like, you know. Oh, you know, and they're like. And they're saying my name every episode. And, like. And you see my face. For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Okay. So we. We're good, right?

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Yo, I messed up. I want to say something.

[B]

I messed up, dude.

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I want to say something to the Rocco's out there right now listening.

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All hail the Roccos.

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Yes.

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First of all, thank you for being with us. Thank you for.

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Thank you for supporting. I'm sorry about the Jason stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

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And I promise I will not call him Jason again. I will call him by his name.

[B]

No, but honestly, we're trying to figure out what Our podcast is. And now that you set the precedent, not the president. Now that you set the precedent, you.

[C]

Should be like, you know the podcast.

[B]

Oh, okay, maybe this episode. I'm Mr. I'm the President of the podcast and.

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I have like a hat improv type stuff.

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Do it like, oh, yeah. And I.

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If you're president, that'd be good for improv type stuff.

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So it's like, Leah, let's play it out. Order. Order in the court.

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What the fuck all.

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There's a new amendment and I'm putting a bill and I, I'm. We're going. I'm going to war or something. And then I'm like. And then it's like, oh my God. I get out, I'm clip, clip, clip. I'm walking on my airport.

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Where's the clip, clip, clip.

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Those are my footsteps going on my presidential plane. Why would they make.

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Why would they go clip, clip.

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Because I, I'm wearing these fancy shoes, dude. And they've got, they've got like their metal shoes and they're. I'm walking on the metal stairs.

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Hey, this is really engrossing.

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Yeah. So.

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And that was all. That was all. Well, I flew away on the plane.

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I'm gonna be thinking about this till the day I die.

[B]

I love doing improv with you, man.

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That was a great improv, man. That was like. Yeah, that was good.

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It was good. You did an improv show recently, didn't you?

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Did short form improv.

[B]

Yeah, I heard about that. That's cool.

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Why are you looking at me like that? You don't.

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No, I mean, I think that's cool. You did short form improv.

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My team, BB Racers.

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Yeah. Is that. Was that your first show?

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Yeah.

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And are you gonna do more?

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Hopefully.

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I mean, if people ask you to, I think.

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Yeah.

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Have you gotten any inquiries and.

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Not yet.

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Yeah. And you would think like SNL like that, you know, my short form and all the other stuff you're doing. Yeah. You might get like, like a 10 minute slot here.

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There.

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BB razors might be seeing some more action.

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But you would be surprised how little people seem to reach out to me.

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Oh, generally, really? Just like in any way, but like socially. No, I mean, what's the work one? Socially?

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Career.

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Career li.

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Professionally.

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Professionally. That's the word people do you think they're scared of you? But also, I told you that.

[C]

What's the holidays? Maybe right now we're recording this as the holidays, so maybe the industry is all.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. They sounded like it was a general thing that people don't reach out to you. And you said maybe because it's the holidays.

[C]

Yeah, but the one that October, it's Halloween time. Summertime, people are sort of on vacation, but also springtime, everybody's sort of prepping for Easter.

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I would just want to say something to the Rocco community. Me and Kyle rib each other every now and then, but we're. We're. This is a positive. This is a positive community.

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I think so.

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It's a space of exploration, a safe space to make mistakes. Me and Kyle love to make mistakes in life.

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Yeah.

[B]

And as parents.

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And I. And as parents. And you know what?

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I think, specifically as parents, I don't.

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I don't look forward to making mistakes.

[B]

Oh, well, I just. I just assume based on the stuff that you were doing with.

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No, no, no.

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Go for it. Go for it.

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Come after me. No, I didn't make mistakes. No, no, no, no. Come after me. He knows.

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Hey, I see with your kid, I'm like, this guy loves making mistakes.

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She's a good girl.

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She's.

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She's perfect. And you're an incredible. You're actually an incredible girl.

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No, you don't. You, you don't know that.

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No, I don't. You're right. We all have our public parent Personas, and we all make people believe we're doing a good job.

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I, I, I. It's like, I haven't seen many bad parents in person. Most people present pretty well there. You know, there are some people I have issues with.

[B]

Yeah. In New York.

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Behavior of their children, I would say.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you see in New York, specifically, just because, like, you know, people aren't in their cars, maybe. But, like, there was definitely a couple times I saw parents yelling at their crying kids.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I guess that was a little hard.

[C]

I have seen that, like. Yeah. In some public spaces, for sure.

[B]

Yeah, It's. Yeah. But sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot. But let's see. You know, we're all figuring it out, but we're not even the parent podcast.

[C]

Yeah. This is. What's our podcast.

[B]

What's our podcast with Beck and Cloud where we don't know what our podcast is about? We invite people on, they tell us.

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What our person to come in and help us figure out what our podcast should be about.

[B]

Okay.

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What was I. What I want to ask you, man.

[B]

I don't know.

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I feel like you're such. You're full of, like, answers. You know what I mean?

[B]

Absolutely.

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Like, I want to, like, get deeper and I want to learn or like not even deep surface level. I'll take any level, cuz you always have something really, really wise to say.

[B]

Thank you, dude. Answer man. The answer man. Do you have an answer man? Answer man, Answer me man. Do you have an answer?

[C]

I can imagine this as a new segment.

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Yeah. And I have copyright and publishing on that song now.

[C]

Okay, well, it sounds like every time.

[B]

We play it, I get. I get a little. What is that song?

[C]

Candy Man Fuck or Muffin Man?

[B]

It was the Muffin man, but I think that's public domain. But what did you want to ask me? You felt like you wanted to ask me something?

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What's your prediction for the upcoming. For the. For 2026?

[B]

I'm thinking. Let me tap in. I'm seeing showers, but I'm seeing showers of like, of. Of. It's like cloudy with a chance of meatballs. But the, the good part, when there's not too much food and there's like, there's, you know, you're getting like pancakes with butter and like the meatballs aren't destroying the cars yet and it's just like only good. Like I think that. I think last year, specifically here in Los Angeles, we started with the fires. That was rough. I. I'm really thinking we're gonna Things. Things. It's gonna be the opposite of fires, I hope.

[C]

What do you. What do you rate?

[B]

So. So that's. That's why I thought of clouded with a chance of me falls.

[C]

But the good part, start to the year.

[B]

Yes. After. Because the holidays are so exhausting.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

From Thanksgiving to Christmas and New Year's, it's like.

[C]

Can I ask you what. What do you rate your 20, 25 out of 10?

[B]

Let's see. I'm thinking, I'm thinking. For those of you listening, I'm still thinking. I'm gonna say like, I don't know, something around like a. Like a 9 or. I mean 10 would be a 10 would be like having a child and having like a perfect. I don't know, like. But it was, it was, it was a good year.

[C]

I mean. Yeah.

[B]

I mean it's Superman.

[C]

You got Buffalo downtown. I'm just talking about work stuff which isn't even like.

[B]

Sure. Buffalo Wild Wings. I just recorded a Buffalo Wild Wings album, the podcast, went to the Philippines for a movie. SNL 50th. I went to New York. Jesse shot a new show, Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed. And me and Ruby went there. We were there for two months and had an amazing time. So she was working, I was working. We were all together A lot. Went to New York as a family. Went to the Philippines as a family. It was so. It was a rough start, but it was a really good year. How about you?

[C]

I don't think I could ever rate maybe a meal. I could rate that high because I've.

[B]

Also had some like fours and threes.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

In the past.

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It was a good. I learned a lot about myself this year. I did a lot of. I like made a lot of stuff, including our podcast. Put out an album, toured. I put out an EP for the holidays.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, I started. I did a few acting projects. I feel like there's something else I did that I'm not even thinking about. Touring was a pretty massive. Yeah, I don't really hurdle, but like thing that I've never really done and experienced. It was very sweet.

[B]

And then your daughter started preschool this year. Yes.

[C]

And she's grown so much in the course, obviously, like as a little person does over the course of a year.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But I still battle, you know, internal demons, you know what I mean? I still face a lot of the self doubt and self criticism that I've faced throughout my life. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, this podcast has brought that up for me. Watching episodes. Damn, dude, you're like that. But now. But I'm trying to come full circle, facing myself and just.

[C]

I know. I also feel like I've exposed myself to more of that. That's where I'm at while working and putting stuff out or something like that, where it's. I'm scared to look, but then sometimes you get it and it's like, well, now I've done it.

[B]

Now I've done it. Okay.

[C]

Yeah. People are saying exactly what you don't want to hear.

[B]

Yeah. But rarely, very rarely. And it's fine. Usually it's very positive, but.

[C]

So I'm going to give myself a 7.8.

[B]

That's pretty good. That's great. And then with that, I think, yeah.

[C]

We'Ve got a very exciting guest.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have Bob the Drag Queen on the show today, an American drag queen, comedian, actor, activist, musician, author, reality television personality, winner of season eight of RuPaul's Drag Race. He does a million so many things. Million things. Incredibly impressive. One of which is one of my favorite songs, Ham Sandwich. I also love Purse First. I like to work out to it. So let's work it out. It's Bob the Drag Queen.

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Hi, baby.

[B]

Dum da da dum. Hi K. God, why did I do that? I did it because you did It.

[C]

It's okay. I was sort of setting you up. Happy New Year, by the way.

[B]

Happy New Year, by the way. Did you. To you also. I haven't said that to you yet.

[C]

Do you notice anything specific about me today?

[B]

I think your hair is a little dry.

[C]

It's. It's. Well, but it's also a little wet. It's both dry and wet.

[B]

Oh, I couldn't see. Because you're a small little guy. My. My computer. I can't see full screen, but you. And you also look cuter than ever. And you. Yeah, you also look a year. A year older because it's 2000 in the beginning of 2026.

[C]

Yeah, I do. I feel older. And I've been making mistakes already. We got a statistic for you. Did you know that?

[B]

We do have. For you guys. I was just clarifying because it's not for me. It's for them.

[C]

Give me one second. Mind if I get started again?

[B]

No problem at all. Happy New Year.

[C]

We've got a Happy New Year. We've got a statistic for you. Did you know that over two thirds of Americans overestimate the cost of life insurance, but it's actually more affordable than most people assume? Let us.

[B]

That's crazy. That's crazy. T. Keep going. Tell us with. Tell me what else?

[C]

If I wasn't. If I wasn't on this computer and I was next to you, I would take about. Take one of those steak knives and stab your little heart.

[B]

No, I'd like to see you try. You would?

[C]

You really want to see me try?

[B]

Yeah, I would like to see you try. Go to jail for the rest of your life. He'd be screwed. Look, we have to get back to fabric. We have to get back to Fabric by Gerber.

[C]

I would stab you at this right here.

[B]

Okay? Too much. I wouldn't like that. I saw the knife, and. I only get what you mean. And I wouldn't like that. Let's get back to talking about life insurance. The thing that you're trying to take away from me.

[C]

We've got a statistic for you. Did you know that over two thirds of Americans overestimate the cost of life insurance? But it's actually more affordable than most people assume. Let us tell you about Fabric by Gerber Life. They make it super easy and super quick to make sure your family is protected financially this year.

[B]

Yeah. So look, Fabric by Gerber Life is term life insurance you can get done today. Made for busy parents like you all online on your schedule, right from your couch you can be covered in under 10 minutes with no health exam required. That means they don't care what kind of health you're in. You can get health insurance by fabric. Let's go.

[C]

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[B]

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[C]

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[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[B]

See, that's interesting. You're wearing a shirt that Kyle would wear and I feel like you're wearing a jacket that I would.

[C]

Man, I missed her. I was at a show about a year ago and she headlined and we left before. I didn't get to. I've never seen her.

[A]

She was at the Bowl. I did the Madonna tour and Mexico City, man, they got some great.

[C]

Sure, okay, I. I saw that.

[A]

What?

[C]

Can you talk about what? I mean, forgive me for such a generic, broad question, but what you were introing. You were like.

[A]

I was getting people psyched. I was hosting.

[B]

I hosted master of ceremonies.

[A]

Yeah, so. Yeah, so I hosted the show. So I was like playing different characters and I also helped create the show. I did some writing for the show and like, was part of the creative process for it too.

[C]

How did you link up with Madonna?

[A]

Grindr.

[B]

That's tough.

[A]

She was on Grindr.

[B]

That's cool.

[A]

She's always.

[B]

She's an innovator, you know, she's evolving.

[C]

She's a chameleon. That's what's so cool about her.

[B]

And you guys were both like, I don't know who you are, but I.

[C]

Want you to work on my tour.

[A]

We were both tops and it wasn't going to work out. And we said we could be friends. Yeah, no Madonna. I hosted her pride show a couple years ago and I just, I think someone from her team was like, you gotta check out this Bob the Drag Queen character. And then she checked me out and she just loved me. So I hosted a pride show and I guess she was so impressed with my hosting that she was like, come host my 40 year retrospective on my world tour.

[C]

How many dates was that?

[A]

We did like 86 shows. 82 shows. I went to 82 and 86 shows. And the last show was a world break was a record breaking show on the Copacabana beach in Brazil. And we did perform for like 1.6 million people.

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

How did, like, do you get nervous?

[A]

No, not really. I mean, there were a few times I got nervous because there's one part of the show where I would try to speak the language of wherever we were. So I would like be like listening to. There's this one part where I say, the icon, the innovator, and she's your mother. Everyone, you know, get on your feet for Madonna. And I learned to say it in quite a few languages, so that part would make me nervous. But besides that, I get really excited, actually. I get like an adrenaline rush and like this excitement that I get to have when I'm going into a show.

[C]

That's the way whenever I kick it with my friend Beck, I'm like, I get to see him again. And I'm just like, whoa, dude.

[B]

Yes. You were kind of doing that kind of thing earlier.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Y' all are so sweet to each other.

[B]

Aw, thanks.

[C]

Thanks, Bob.

[B]

Thanks, Bob. You're so sweet to us. I. I can't believe it, but I think we are normally straight guys aren't.

[A]

So nice to each other. Like, you know, nut tapping and like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're this loser.

[B]

Yeah, I. I can't stand that. I've. Ever since the beginning, I was like, don't nut tap me. I just, I am not playing that. Like, like people, guys, guys would do the thing where your nipples kind of, like, coming through your shirt a little. And they. Yeah, I just like to grab my.

[A]

Buddy'S nipples and just give them a little nut tap.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, one of those.

[C]

Do you ever get the wet willies?

[A]

I haven't had a wet willy. Well, someone gave me a wet willy recently as an adult, and I remember being like, oh, my God. It was like maybe like three years ago, I got a wet willy and I was like, whoa, that was crazy.

[C]

That's a really disturbing feeling.

[A]

Yeah. A wet willy is not great. Well, there's a couple of things going on. One, there's the force of a finger in your ear, and then the texture of something wet. There's this theory, like, your skin actually can't tell the difference between wet and cold.

[C]

Yeah, that's the wet willy theory.

[A]

Yeah, like the old. The old wet willie theory, man.

[B]

No, but that is. That is a. That. That's a great compliment, I would say, asking if we were straight.

[A]

Oh, no, it is definitely a compliment. Yes. You didn't want to be told, well.

[B]

These fuckers are straight.

[C]

I feel like we have gotten that version, though, too.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, probably. Yeah. We run the gamut a little bit.

[A]

But I think that you. That you two are aesthetically straight.

[C]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[A]

Aesthetically, quite straight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But emotionally, very Silver Lake.

[B]

That's great.

[A]

You know?

[B]

Yeah, Yeah. I like. I like. We like to tap into our emotions. We like to be emotionally available and. Yeah.

[A]

How old are you all? I'm 39.

[B]

I'm 41.

[C]

I'm same. 41. We're in the same realm.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. We were in high school at the same time.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Where did you grow up?

[A]

Atlanta, Georgia.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You were there your whole childhood?

[A]

Well, no, I grew up all over the south, but mostly Atlanta.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, the full breakdown is I was born in Columbus, Georgia, and then I moved to Phoenix City, Alabama, and then I moved to Corinth, Mississippi. Then I moved back to Phoenix City. Then I moved to lagrange, Georgia, and then in seventh grade, I moved to.

[C]

Atlanta and I went to high school.

[B]

You knew all that stuff. No, I knew all that. No, I knew all that. But now you speaking about growing up, you. Your mom owned a drag club. Okay. And so I like. And you would work there sometimes and.

[A]

No, that's a misconception. People think I was at the club. I was. Not work. You can't work at the. I was a child.

[B]

I was gonna say, like, one time.

[C]

He's been telling a lot of people this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I actually put that out Online. What happens?

[A]

A lot of people always, like, what was it like being at your mom's drag club? I was like, I was never at the drag. I wasn't allowed to go. But one time I was gonna say.

[B]

It'S like collecting money as a kid.

[A]

Well, that did happen. So one time, my mom couldn't get a babysitter.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So I was outside of the club and I was taking money. So I was kind of sitting in this, like, dark room, like a. Like a money booth, basically.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And my mother was right there at the door working security, checking IDs. And then I would take the money and give them their money, but it was. It would just be like a hand.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

Coming out and taking money and making change. And I think I might have been, like, maybe 11 at that time. Maybe that was the only time I was. But only time I was in the club was during the day when they were cleaning it.

[B]

Gotcha.

[A]

But I never. But I was never in the club when it was operating, so I have actually. I never saw the drag queens or anything.

[B]

Gotcha, man. I, like. I feel like I don't know what movie it is that I'm thinking of, but I feel like that's a thing where, like, kids are, like. Like, maybe it's even, like, My Girl or, like, there's something where, like, kids are around clubs, like circuses or, like, whatever. And, like, there's just something that I was, like, very.

[C]

Like a club or a circus?

[B]

Like. No, like a show. Like a show. Like, I feel like it happens in a lot of movies where kids, like, grow. Their parents own a club. It's like an iconic movie. And they're, like, crawling around, like, looking at stuff.

[A]

And, like, this doesn't happen a lot. It'll be like a kid looking from the rafters at, like, some showgirl.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And then the camera zooms in their eyes, then. Then as it zooms back out, they're a showgirl. And then they're like, I watched my mother perform at the Chateau Leverou. But no, I. I never got to actually see the stuff.

[B]

Well, I'm glad.

[C]

Movies are such a great art form, too. I feel like.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. Sometimes your life feels like a movie, wouldn't you agree?

[C]

I still haven't experienced that.

[A]

We should make a movie about a life that's just kind of, like, mundane. Yeah. Like, nothing's really going on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Isn't that kind of. What? Can I be honest? I've actually. I'm about to say a movie that I've Never seen.

[B]

Okay, yeah, great.

[A]

But I just feel like this is what this movie is about.

[B]

Yeah. Which one?

[A]

Is that what Juno's about? Just like. Everyone's like. It's like normal and nothing crazy.

[B]

She. She gets pregnant.

[A]

Yeah. Elliot Page gets pregnant at some point.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right, yeah, but that's normal. That's pretty. A person getting pregnant is pretty run of the mill.

[B]

The thing that stands out to me about that movie is the hamburger phone.

[A]

I'm need you to clarify that.

[B]

There's like a hamburger phone. It's like, kind of like quirky, kind of like there's like a hamburger phone. And that's like the only thing I remember from that movie.

[A]

Who's using this phone?

[B]

I think Elliot.

[A]

I was in a TV show with Elliot once.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[A]

Tiny guy. Yeah, Teeny tiny guy. And he. When he's acting. I'm from. I'm from. I went to theater school and I was a theater kid.

[B]

Yeah. Where did you go to theater school?

[A]

Okay, I want to. Let me. I want to. I want to. Can I. Can I run that back?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Keep it on the record. But yeah, I went to school for theater.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I didn't go to a theater school.

[B]

Yes. Okay.

[A]

Because you were like, Columbia.

[B]

I didn't go to a theater school. I went to a school to do theater.

[A]

I went to Columbus State University in Columbus, Georgia.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

To study theater education.

[B]

Oh, okay, cool. Were you doing theater while you were there? Musical theater?

[A]

Not really musicals. I mean, I never got cast in musicals because I wasn't the best singer. I'm still not the best singer. I can sing, but there were people at school who could really, really, really sing, you know, But I was. I was always cast in, like, the acting roles. I was a pretty good actor. I was like, one of the top ones in, like, the acting program, even though I was actually in the education program. But you still have to take acting courses. Cause I was gonna be a drama teacher.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Anyway, so I'm really loud. Where I'm getting at. It takes a lot of work for me to be loud. And Elliot pays. That's not how he acts. He's so quiet. He's so quiet.

[B]

It astonishes me sometimes. Sorry, go ahead.

[C]

No, no, no, it doesn't.

[B]

Well, it's just like coming from a comedy acting background, you know, like we all do doing comedy, sort of leading the way, getting on a set and, like, seeing actors who are actors act there. It's like I can barely hear them.

[A]

They're like. And I have to respond to what you're saying, but I can't even hear what you're saying.

[B]

Yeah, sorry, sorry.

[C]

One more time.

[B]

No, literally, that happened to me recently and I'm playing the obnoxious character and they're kind of the normal people in it or whatever. And I was like, I feel insane.

[A]

And part of me is like, there's no way you even talk about this in real life. I don't know, man.

[B]

That's exactly it.

[A]

What am I supposed to do with it?

[C]

But.

[B]

And I apologize.

[C]

That acting was good.

[B]

It was good. You put a camera on that and you're just winning everything to be fair.

[A]

Elliot Page is an Oscar nominated actor. What do I know? What do you think about these guys? Who. There's a conversation on TikTok right now about improving and these legendary scenes, making it in movies that the actors just made up on the spot.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And some of them are like, is this problematic? Like, like someone, like, I think. What's his name? Leonardo DiCaprio. You seen Django and Jane?

[B]

Yeah. I knew you were gonna go. Yeah.

[A]

And he's that blood. That's real blood. He like, smashed his hand. Oh, allegedly. I don't know.

[C]

I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So. So what is.

[A]

What is the.

[C]

Feels like a case by case?

[A]

Like, is it okay? Like, like someone else, like, broke their. Like someone like breaking a thing? Like a set piece?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, well, either, like, well, that's the last take. Or like, wow, art's got a lot of work to do.

[C]

I mean, in life is like, there's a line that can be crossed.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And if you cross that line, it's fucked up.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

If that's like hurting somebody in any way, physically, emotionally, like, that's likely not.

[A]

I think the line kind of goes back from that depending on what it is. Like, for example, let's talk about making someone else's life much harder. Right?

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

If you're breaking set pieces.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I mean, I guess for the set person, it's really not their job to decide how many cups get made. It's just their job to make sure that every time the cameras are up, there's a cup there.

[B]

Right. You know what I mean?

[A]

So I guess as long as the producers or the money bags or whoever's at the end of the day with all the money is like, we don't care. Break as many cups as you want to break. Not a big deal. Then I guess it's. I guess it's okay.

[B]

Yeah. But then it's also like, you're Slowing down. You have to fit. You have to tend to that wound on his hand. And it's like slowing the day down. But it's like, yeah, I feel like it's an agreement. If you're just doing it, then that's. It's not that cool. And also, like, as a director, if you're messing with somebody, I feel like the actor has to say, I'm okay with you doing whatever you need to do.

[A]

Yeah, that needs to be.

[B]

And like, I have a safe word or something, but like, yeah, yeah, it should be something agreed upon.

[A]

I mean, that being said, Django Unchained is a brilliant movie.

[B]

It's a brilliant movie.

[A]

It's gotta be my favorite Tarantino film. I'm not a big Tarantino. I'm not one of those, like, Tarantino heads. Yeah, but goddamn, Django Unchained is.

[B]

It's incredible.

[A]

One of the. One of my favorite movies of all time. There was a. I remember that sounds so. I remember that was country as hell. I remember. I try to think. I don't have a Southern accent, but sometimes stuff like that pops out. I remember watching it and I think it was. It took like to the third scene that he was in that I was like, oh, my God, that's Samuel Jackson.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I didn't know right away.

[B]

I was like, he's incredible.

[A]

I was like, oh, shit, that's Samuel L. Jackson.

[B]

Actors are incredible.

[A]

They are.

[B]

Sometimes they're too cool.

[C]

I think it's the most important thing for a person to do is act.

[B]

We need more actors.

[A]

Not enough. Especially in this town.

[B]

Now I have a question about how your start in comedy and doing drag. You moved to New York and you were. I know you kind of did drag and comedy at the same time, right? Did you start doing stand up comedy and drag it? Like, were you doing it as. Not through an alter ego, not through drag.

[A]

So I was writing stand up for years, but I hadn't actually. I was literally just writing. I had this book that I was just writing my ideas in. And then when I got to New York City, I was like. Cause I was. I was. I used to be a traveling actor, like for children's theater.

[B]

Oh, cool.

[A]

Remember educational theater? I wanted to work with kids. And then I got to New York City and I was like, I'm gonna give standup a shot. And my first time performing in drag was actually doing stand up comedy at the New York Comedy Club over on the east side.

[B]

Did you. Did you feel like that gave you the, like, the freedom or confidence to, you know, performing through an alter ego to do it.

[A]

No, I didn't either. I've always been very overly confident, probably more than I. Probably more confident is justified, to be honest.

[B]

Yeah, but that's, that's, that feels better.

[A]

But I don't, but I don't really consider my drag. Drag is not an alter ego for me. Like, if I was in drag right now, I wouldn't have like a character.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, it's just, I would say, you know, Bob is my nickname that everyone calls me, and the drag is just like my work clothes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. But there are some queens who have like a. They, they turn into a new person.

[B]

Right. And I feel like that's one of the things that makes your cups, your drag.

[A]

Smash some cups.

[B]

As somebody who doesn't know drag that well, would you say that that makes you stand out a little bit more? Or is that. Or is it like kind of just like more like two categories?

[A]

I think it's regional and like, it depends on where you do your drag at. So a lot of, A lot of us from New York City who are doing drag in the city, you know, you leave the house in drag and you go home in drag, so it's hard to stay in character all night.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know what I mean? You can't be in this character. Now there are some queens who do characters in New York City. There's a queen named Busted who has like a character that she does. There's a queen who used to. She's passed away with Sugar Pie Coco. She had a character that she did. But then the rest of us, like, we actually go by our drag names all the time, everywhere we are. So, like, I have been in very serious arguments with someone and being like, well, listen, Juicy Bubbles, you're not gonna respect me as a person if you can't come to my birthday party. And I'm sorry, but that's what it is. And it doesn't even cross my mind that I'm calling her Juicy Bubbles, you know?

[B]

Right, right. And do you. How often are you doing. You have so many things going on. How often are you doing drag shows these days?

[A]

Well, you know, that's the thing. What is it a drag show? I feel like the term drag show has a certain connotation where I'm like, up there lip syncing. I don't really do that and haven't done that in a long time. But all my stand up shows are drag shows because I'm in drag for them. You know what I mean? But it really is. It's just standup comedy. And I am a drag queen. It is just straight up, regular standup comedy. And I am a drag queen doing it. Cause drag doesn't really say what you do. It just says how you're dressed while you do the thing you're doing.

[B]

Wait, real quick, before we move on, just one quick question. Okay. Okay. Before we move on to the podcast, within the podcast, where do you do stand up comedy?

[C]

Where do you do your zooms?

[B]

Where do you zoom from?

[A]

So, I mean, right now in the city, I usually just do the Comedy Store. I love the Belly Room a lot. And I've done a few things at the Improv here and there. But normally on the road, like, I just did some shows at the Olson Run Comedy Club in Eugene, Oregon. We used to like six great shows there. It was so cool. We like six sold out shows. It was an amazing weekend. And then I'm headed to Houston, Texas on Wednesday for Punchline. I also go out to the Improv in Brea and the Oxnard Improv as well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To run time out there sometime as well. I do Madison, Wisconsin at the Comedy on State of Madison a lot.

[B]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

But. But yeah, just comedy. There's comedy. Different comedy clubs around the place. But in la, I usually do the. The Belly Room. Or I'll find one of my friends and see if I can hop on one of their shows.

[B]

Cool. Okay. Good to know for all our Roccos out there, that's what we call our listeners.

[A]

The Roccos.

[B]

Yeah, our Roccos.

[A]

Hey there, Rocco.

[B]

Go check out Bob in the Belly Room.

[A]

The Rocco.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I mean, if you want to see me, you can go to seethedradqueen.com s e e see with your eyes. Seethedradqueen.Com my whole schedule is always posted there.

[B]

Great. Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna check it out.

[C]

Oh, yeah. So I'm assuming somebody told you the premise of this podcast is that we don't know what our podcast is about. I heard we don't know what our podcast should be about. Do you have an idea of what you think our podcast should be?

[A]

Well, I have some notions. Okay. Based on my, My, my limited time with you all here today, I think that there is a space of where, like, soft, straight men can communicate, but also make it kind of cool. Like, I feel like these Andrew Tates and these whatever podcast and the Fit and Fresh podcast have a stronghold. And I don't think that all these, you know, young straight guys are into this, but they need someone older to look up to who they find cool and interesting. But then you might have to change certain things, and it might not fit your aesthetic anymore. So what.

[C]

And what, like, subjects would we hit in that scenario, do you think?

[A]

I mean. Well, it depends on what you have experience in.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Like, I think that in. Or, like, everyone loves comedy. You both are obviously great with comedy, and you know what you're doing in that regard as well. But also, like, do you have a lot of friends? Do you know how to make friends? A lot of people don't. There's a loneliness epidemic.

[B]

Yes, absolutely.

[A]

And it's not just loneliness of dating with these young men. It is, like, of friends, and there are lonely, lonely people. Do you know how to make friends? Have you figured it out? Are you dating? Do you have a girlfriend? Do you have multiple. Are you married? Do you have kids?

[C]

So, like, I like all of this.

[B]

Yeah, I do, too. So, like, do you have kids?

[A]

Any of you?

[B]

We both have one child. We're married. We're both married. Not to each other.

[C]

Soft straight guys on Loneliness is the podcast.

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

I mean, but, like, I think it's like, you're both married. Yeah, we're both married.

[A]

See, that's great, because all the other guys who are giving dating advice, none of them are married, so.

[B]

Yeah. So you're basically like, there are all these guys out there, like, spewing their ideas on masculinity or what's happening in the world without really no basis, bringing sort of this, like, trying to be masculine or tough or cool or edgy or whatever. And you're like, we need more men out there that have more of a. An emotional capacity more, that are softer, that have, like a. Just a. A better example for young men, for young straight men.

[A]

But it might take for you to reclaim some sort of a term that people don't like, though. Like, you have like. Like, like the soy boy podcast or like.

[B]

Yeah, the beta bros. Yeah, we'll take whatever. Yeah, I'm down with that. Yeah, I'll be the beta bro. I'll be the beta bro. Or like, because also, like. Yeah, let's see. Soy boys, beta bros. Soft sways.

[C]

I like softies.

[B]

I like soft heart. Soft, hard. Soft, hard guys.

[A]

No, soft, hard guys.

[B]

Will they be.

[C]

What is the hard part?

[B]

I don't know. Because I do think that we're not just, like, okay, whatever. Yeah, just, like, walk all over me. You know what I mean? Because I do think that, like, right. If we were Setting an example there. It's not about being like. Like, just like. I. I don't have the. The words to describe it.

[A]

How long y' all been married?

[B]

Eight years.

[A]

How about you?

[C]

Six.

[A]

That's important information.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To have. Maybe it's something, but maybe there's a way to dunk within the conversa. Within the title. You know what I mean? Like, something about how you're like, oh, my God, my socks didn't match.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Like, something about how, like, there's a way that you are actually in successful, committed relationships with children, because that's really all a lot of these guys want. Guys who did is to be able to be in a committed relationship with a woman who loves them and maybe one day have kids. But also, how about having a conversation about how, like, having kids isn't just passing on your lineage. That's how these guys are talking. I want to keep my lineage going. I'm like, your lineage. You. You have adult acne.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You want to spread that. You want to pass on to someone. That's your lineage.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, girl, get out of here.

[B]

I feel like this is a great. I love this.

[C]

Successful. No. Successful straight guys.

[A]

No, you don't want that. That's not the problem.

[C]

I take it back. I take it back.

[A]

Successful, straight. Coming to a podcast near you, anywhere you get podcasts.

[C]

It's a bad idea.

[B]

Yeah, it was a really bad. And it's okay. And, you know, it's important that you're able to recognize that.

[C]

Beta Boy.

[B]

Beta Boy.

[A]

Beta Boys is honestly kind of iconic.

[C]

Let's do beta.

[B]

Let's do Beta Boys.

[A]

But then it. But then it. But it takes a lot of work to try to get people to claim that. But also, I don't know what your. I don't know what your demographic is. You know, you can check on Instagram what your demographic is.

[B]

I think we're. I think we're, like, 70% male.

[A]

Oh, my God. And what's the age range?

[B]

I think, like, 20 to 30.

[A]

Oh, Lisa, you could change the world.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

All right, let's. I say we just come right back to our new podcast, Beta Boys.

[A]

Welcome back to Beta Boys.

[C]

Here we go.

[B]

All right, we're gonna switch studio. We'll be back.

[C]

What's up, everybody? I'm Kyle Mooney.

[B]

And I'm Beck Bennett.

[C]

And of course, you are listening and. Or watching the podcast, you know, and hopefully appreciate and hopefully learn something from.

[B]

It is Beta Boys is a podcast. That's what it's all about. You told us Beta Boys is a podcast. That's what we'll talk about with Beck and Kyle.

[C]

Man, Big B.

[B]

Big B.

[C]

Always happy to see you, Little K.

[B]

Always happy to see you. I'm tiny, you know. It is great to see you. It's great to be here.

[C]

How often do you check your watch, out of curiosity?

[B]

I don't. It's not wound, it's decorative. It's jewelry.

[C]

It really is not moving.

[B]

No, it's actually moving, but it's not set to the right.

[C]

You check your phone for the time?

[B]

Yeah, I do. I've gotten in the house because I don't wear it regularly. It is self winding, but, like, if I don't wear it for a couple days, it'll. It'll be off and then I just throw it on and. Yeah, it is. I guess it is. It's jewelry.

[C]

Cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I want to know more about the self winding later, but we do have a very, very important.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's all good. We really do.

[A]

I think you can get your watch calibrated.

[B]

Yeah, well, I mean, all I have to do is just wind it it, and then I set the time and then it'll. It'll be good.

[A]

Well, you shouldn't have to set your watch. I mean, you should set your watch one time and it's just set forever.

[B]

I know, but it's, it's a. It's. It's like.

[A]

That means. It's like that means you're. You're, you're. You're watch either too fast or too slow.

[B]

I'm assuming if, If I wear it constantly, if I set it to the right time and wear it, it's like it winds by like motion. It like, keeps itself moving. Like, can I. If there's motion, can I interrupt? Sits still. That's why, like, if I put it in a watch box and it moves, if the time will stay right.

[C]

Can I say, say something really quick? This is an iconic Beta Boys conversation.

[A]

That we're doing right now.

[B]

It really is, because I will say. And we haven't even introduced our guests. Bob the Drag Queen is here. Thank you so much for being here, everyone. I'm Beta Boys. So, yeah, honestly, watches are. Are a real. A lot of guys like to wear big watches, expensive watches, and be like, I'm a man and this is expensive and this is tough and cool. I did get this watch kind of coming from that space, but now I'm kind of like, eh.

[C]

How long have you had the watch?

[B]

Since the last year of snl. It was like a gift to myself because it's a nice watch, but it's also one of the smallest watch dials.

[A]

Available, like a lot of guys get, I've noticed. I don't know what's going on with that watch, but there's a lot of conversation about it. And I feel like you're trying to not say the brand of this watch. And it's probably the really expensive one. And I feel like it's very modest of you to be like this watch and a watch. I'm assuming it's one of those watches where the, where the second hand doesn't tick, it just rolls continuously.

[B]

Yeah, that's. We're talking about the, the. The Oyster Perpetual. It's a Rolex, but the perpetual. Like it's kind of a. Just a slight.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that's. Apparently you can tell a Rolex because the Rolex that the hands don't take. They just. It's a Oyster Perpetual. I just.

[B]

Yeah, it's the perpetual motion. That's the self blending. They're not Oyster Perpetual.

[A]

That's like saying I. Well, you don't say. You don't say Princeton. You say, I want to go to school in New Jersey. Is that what they say?

[C]

Right?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

The Massachusetts school.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I go to school in Massachusetts. If you go to Harvard, I go to school in Massachusetts. But you can't just say, I go to Harvard.

[B]

Harvard.

[A]

And I guess you have to say, I got a Rolly. You got to be like, well, I was a. It's a.

[B]

It's kind of a real life.

[A]

It's a very nice watch.

[B]

Yeah. It's just. And I got it as a guess.

[A]

And I bought it as I bought it to, to treat myself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because, you know, I don't think anyone buys like a Swiss to treat themselves.

[B]

No.

[A]

No one's like, I really wanted to.

[B]

I hope not.

[A]

I wanted to celebrate, so I bought a Casio.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That. That would be.

[A]

But it was very Beta boy. But also still powerful. The way that you presented that watch. Like you. We all picked up what you've been down. I feel like, like an Alpha would like stick their giant watch in your face and yell as a Rolex. But you let me find you, let me discover that you had a role.

[B]

And also I think an Alpha would be like, no, of course I set the time. I know how all the gears move. I know the date. I know the significant. Like, like that a lot of Alpha guys are like really getting into watches. And being like, I care about this because the watch is the only piece of jewelry an Alpha guy can wear and not feel, you know, I mean, like, now chains are coming in, I guess. But like, it. It depends. But, like, the watch is the thing, and they can. I think they pretend to care about it.

[C]

And. Can I say something that bothers me? Taking a step back, talking about the watch experts. People who believe that they are experts on something or want to showcase that I am an expert on this thing.

[B]

Right.

[C]

I don't need that energy. You know what I mean?

[A]

Even if they are the expert.

[C]

I guess they're. Yes. If you're talking to the foremost accomplished watchmaker.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I want to hear what you have to say about your watch. But if you're just sort of like, kind of. I watch some YouTube videos.

[B]

Yeah. But people, like. That's what. They'll see my watch, and they'll be like a watch guy. I'm like, no, I'm. I'm not anymore. I like a watch. I like this.

[A]

What kind of guy are you? You a coffee guy?

[B]

I'm a coffee guy for sure. Yeah. How about you?

[A]

What kind of guy are you?

[C]

Oh, man. What do you. What type of guy am I?

[B]

You're a video guy. You like videos?

[C]

I like my videos, Kyle. I do. I like content.

[B]

Kyle's a content guy. That's how it's like music, films, watching stuff.

[C]

People throw nostalgia. If people say I'm very, very nostalgic, I feel like I'm. I do appreciate a lot of the stuff from either my childhood or even prior.

[A]

What's your favorite movie of all time? Yeah.

[C]

Maybe today I'll say Defending youg Life, the Albert Brooks movie.

[A]

Oh, okay. I've not seen.

[B]

How about. Do you have a favorite movie?

[A]

Yeah. It's basic, though. I have basic answers. I'm not. I'm. I'm not. Bill. Different.

[B]

No.

[A]

That's a pretty standard model.

[B]

That's great. That's important to accept that.

[A]

My favorite movie is the Color Purple classic of all time.

[B]

That was the best Broadway show I've ever seen. I saw Cynthia Revu first time.

[A]

Me, too.

[B]

Yeah. I was exposed to her. I was like. It was insane.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Unbelievable how.

[C]

To me, the. One of the wild things about that movie is that Oprah Winfrey was like, a talk show host, and she puts on an unbelievable performance. You know what I mean? It's like.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I feel like, how often does that happen? I mean, it does happen where, like, you've seen somebody on screen doing something that is so pretty dissimilar to what they typically do. And it's like, holy shit.

[A]

That was. She did an amazing performance. I don't know if you've ever seen. You should really treat yourself to watch the Oprah Winfrey SNL episode.

[B]

Really?

[C]

I've never seen it.

[A]

I don't think it was. It was during the Oscar campaign and Oprah Winfrey, when she was nominated. Because Color Purple was nominated for, like, 12 or 13 Oscars, but it won zero. Didn't win a single Oscar. Oh, wow. And Oprah Winfrey was, like, kind of campaigning to get herself an Oscar, and it was her. She hosted SNL in, like, 1985.

[C]

4.

[A]

85.

[B]

Yeah. Is there something that stands out to you about that?

[A]

It's just the fact that Oprah's hosting snl. It's like Oprah's hosting snl. This is. What is Oprah do, like, Oprah, what are you doing here?

[B]

Yeah, right. There's, like, some people.

[C]

Do you know if she did, like, characters, was she, like.

[A]

She was in. She did everything. She did all the stuff.

[B]

It's like Meryl streep, Oprah. Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, DiCaprio. These people don't host SNL. They don't get in wigs and goof around. But she did it.

[A]

Well, I mean, I don't watch a ton of snl. I have a couple friends who've been on snl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, me and Bowen are kind of cool. I mean, so Shears and Mater are friends.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Great, great people.

[A]

But I do. There are moments from SNL that really intrigued me that I'm that, like, Oprah hosting SNL and Steven Seagal hosting us now is really just kind of. It's just stuck in there. I can never get it out of my brain. I can never get it out of there. But anyway, Color Purple answer your question. Color Purple is my favorite Color Purple. And sometimes it rotates with the original Lion King.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. That is so incredible. Whatever that moment in the movie is when Mufasa dies and Scarlet, like, the whole dynamic. My son saw it.

[A]

Run away, Simba. Run away and never return.

[B]

It's your fault. And then he sends him away and sends people after him to kill him.

[A]

Yeah. It's pretty gag.

[B]

It's. It's. It's pretty. What?

[A]

Gaggy?

[B]

Gaggy. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was gagged. Yeah. It's like my son saw that and, like, when he was, like, three and was, like, for about a year was like, so the wildebeest went after Simba. It's like, no, no, the wildebeest didn't do anything wrong. The hyena scared the wildebeest. And. And Simba was in their way. And, like. And the scars. His brother, like, he just, like, was trying to understand it. Kids, it's psychological.

[A]

It's a lot. I watched it in 1994, which means I was 8 years old.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was 8. I was five years older than your son when he watched it. And I was still like.

[B]

So I remember.

[A]

First of all, it's probably 10. It's so upsetting because of watching his father die. And Jonathan Taylor Thomas, his acting was just amazing. He ate the girlies up. And then you seeing him in his most vulnerable moment, he's like, also, it's really upsetting. Cause you're watching him try to wake up his dead father. He's moving his carcass around his dead body. And then Scar emerges from the dust and is like, simba, what have you done? And Simba's like, I didn't mean to. Cause then Simba's like, oh, my God, he's been gaslit. He's like, holy shit. Did I. I. He's like, yeah, I guess I did fully kill my dad. I didn't mean. I didn't mean to. Because he was. He was roaring at the. At the. At the. At the. The lizard.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So he thinks. He thinks that his roar sent the stampede down to kill Mufasa, and then Mufasa came to save him. But then this cinematic moment when Mufasa jumps out of the. The. The. The. The stampede.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he's climbing up this wall, and imagine how much it must hurt getting your claw stuck in this rock. And then you get there and you see your brother. O know I almost died.

[B]

I know. It's like that. It's like, do we need that moment that is even so intense.

[A]

He's like. He's like. He's like, thank God, Scar. I almost died. Help me out. And this girl was like, boom. And then he's like. He got the big roar. And then he goes, long live the king. That's his last thing.

[B]

Intense.

[A]

Unless one of the wildebeest was like, excuse me.

[B]

Sorry. Oh, sorry about this. Not my fault, your highness.

[A]

It is incredible that, you know, aside, I'm assuming the last thing he heard was his. His. His loving brother yell, long live the king.

[B]

I don't think it's a mistake that we're talking about Lion King on the Beta Boys podcast. I mean, that is some. That is toxic Masculinity. At its worst. Scar.

[C]

Sure, sure, sure.

[B]

The hunt for power.

[A]

I think you. I think you're wrong.

[B]

What?

[A]

Scar is not toxic masculinity. Scar is a nasty gay bitch. Scar is a bitter, mean, old gay guy who's.

[B]

Yeah. And I gotta be honest, Scar is.

[A]

A product of his surroundings. It's not his fault. Scar was ostracized because he's different. He's all skinny. He used to be a twink. Yeah, he was a hot young twink with long black hair.

[B]

I've been telling people and they were like, you're not. You're not strong like Mufasa. You're not king. You're not. You're not.

[A]

And now he's a decrepit, skinny old gay guy.

[B]

He doesn't have a family, hangs out.

[A]

With the hyenas all the time. He's living in his little, his, his, his recently renovated cave. Yeah, his mid century modern cave. And no one appreciates him. So he's like, I'm going to rise to power. I'm going to take the power. So, yes, Scar is obviously doing something bad, but no one's addressing the bad things that were done to Scar. He's hurt, so he hurts people.

[B]

Right. And it's not like Mufasa did anything to him necessarily. He's just part of a system.

[A]

Mufasa. Mufasa represents an oppressive system against people like Scar. Scar is a beta boy who wrote, who rose, who took his. He did it on the worst side of it. So he became some sort of a beta alpha and he used it to take down the alpha male. And then he went all the way to the zeta male and got rid of him too, in case he's gonna rise up to become the alpha male.

[B]

I cannot wait to show this video to my son.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And kind of to help him break it down a little bit.

[C]

Yeah, that so well said. And when Pumbaa shows the. The worms.

[A]

Oh, the grub. The, the, the grubs. Well, that's a lot there too, because.

[B]

Pumbaa, that's a lot, man.

[A]

Listen, Pumbaa, this is. They're representing the Bohemians. They're like Timon and Pumbaa. They're representing like these like broke people who not didn't grow up rich. They've been broke. And now someone from the wealthy side is coming down to play with them. They've been like scrounging and saving their whole lives, you know.

[B]

And they're loving, they're loving the what they get by. And they're free, happy, Happy as pigs.

[A]

And. And he. One of them is a pig. And he might have stepped in some at some point in time. Right.

[B]

You know, he's eating well.

[C]

We know he actually fart. I know that for sure.

[A]

But they're also kind of like a little bit scam artist. They see this line, they're like, we can use him. He can protect us.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

We're going to need a little bit of protection. But then they end up actually loving him and being like, they're his gay uncles. Low key. Yeah, it's a very gay show. It's a very gay, very gay movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Don't even get me started on Zazu.

[B]

Oh, my God. Zazu.

[A]

Because Zazu's low key. The bad guy. And I will. I will die.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

This is a Beta Boys exclusive.

[B]

Zazu's the bad guy.

[A]

He's not good.

[B]

Well, yeah. I mean, he's a rule.

[C]

He's looking out. He's looking out for Simba. Yeah, he's.

[B]

He's following.

[A]

It's not just looking out, it's monitoring. Monitoring.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. He really is.

[A]

He's not security. He's. He's monitoring.

[B]

He's a narc.

[A]

Simba's trying to express himself in ways. Simba's trying to say, you know, I'm gonna be a mighty king, which everyone knows is gonna be king. And then Zaza's like, not yet. I've never heard of king of beasts with quite so little hair.

[B]

That's true.

[C]

But can I. Can I. And I don't know how this.

[B]

Yeah, well, no, that's totally. No, no, no, no. Honestly, if you are, that's totally okay. Holding space for Kylo, maybe being a bitch.

[C]

I was a bitch, and I still am a bitch.

[B]

Yeah. And we can all be a bitch a little bit.

[C]

And I don't know how this folds into everything, but a moment where I really feel for Zazu is. I believe Scar essentially attacks Zazu and has him in his full mouth. And it's Mufasa who gets him out. He coughs out Zazu, who's completely dripping wet.

[A]

Yes. Absolutely drenched. So, yeah, he was.

[C]

He was close to death.

[A]

Well, Zazu is one. You ever see one of these, like, sassy little people who's really tiny and can't defend themselves? They'll go up against anyone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So he's like, you would never. Why? What would you ever do to me? I'm Zazu.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Mufasa literally got my back. So he's mouthing off the Scar.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

But Scar is bullying Zazu because he can't bully another lion. He's way too weak to bully on the lion. He's way too weak to bully another lion.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

He's going to try to bully Zazu. He grabs him and then. Of course, Course. But not only that. Scar slaps the out of Zazu later, I don't know if you remember, Zazu's flying around and Scar just straight up backhands him into a wall. Splat. Slides down the wall almost as if.

[B]

It was like a cartoon or something. Like it could like. Yeah.

[A]

That movie's wild. But I will say it is crazy because I do think that Scar hit the gym after seeing what happened to Mufasa and taking over the Pride Land. He did hit the gym because his fight against Simba, he held his own.

[B]

Yeah, he did.

[A]

Did. He really did held it down. And that shot where. Where Scar jumps through the fire, arms raised.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I also love.

[B]

He's ready to defend his king.

[A]

Ain't nobody don't nobody in. In. In the. No. There is no villain in the history of sim that I know who can talk like Scar.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like he's got some. He goes, now, where have I seen this before?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

But he was your father. Well, he has something to tell you.

[B]

I kill.

[A]

He loves the idea of being like. He wants your last words to be the worst thing you've ever heard. I killed Mufasa. And then somehow, defying gravity, Simba has now leapt out of the. They didn't eat with that, in my humble opinion. But yeah, the way that he shit talks is so. And also his vernacular is spectacular. You know, he has a scary vocabulary I love. I know. Be prepared for the coup of the century. Be prepared for the. For the murky escape. He said decades of denial. What is Decades of Denial? As simply why I will be King Undisputed. Respected, saluted and seen for the wonder I am. Yes, my teeth and ambitions are bared. Be Prepared. It's one of my favorite movies of all time. It's a brilliant movie.

[B]

Be Prepared, Be Prepared.

[C]

It's a Beta Boys classic.

[B]

It really is.

[A]

I've only worked.

[B]

Be Prepared. Be Prepared does not. Be prepared. That song does not give the get the respect and attention it deserves. Easel that you just gave it right now, but finally it's waking up a little bit.

[A]

Okay, so I gotta tell you something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I didn't know what this podcast was about. Neither do any of us. Right?

[B]

Yeah. None of us knew it was about beta books.

[A]

So someone from My team was like, you gotta pick a word.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, a word. They're like a word that you wanna talk about. And I was like, okay, well. And I looked at some examples, and I was like, none of these words match in any way. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I didn't realize that when I said beta boys, that was my word. I didn't know that. I didn't know how to.

[B]

You didn't know that that was gonna be the podcast?

[A]

I didn't know. But I wanna. But I still wanna talk about what I wanted to talk about.

[B]

Okay. And it can be under the context of Beta boys, the podcast.

[A]

It's possible.

[B]

Okay, we'll see. What's the word?

[A]

Do you think it's possible kind of as a rebrand?

[B]

It kind of works.

[A]

Well, beta boys can talk about anything.

[B]

Yeah. We were just kind of. It was just kind of an energy. So what's the.

[A]

My word is honey bun. Whoa. I want to talk about honey buns. Because in my experience with life, I mentioned honey buns to people, and the reactions I get are always so different. And I'm often shocked at how many people have not had a honey bun. Not a cinnamon roll, but a honey bun. Not a Danish, a honey bunny.

[C]

I don't. I. I don't know if I have.

[B]

I have. And they're in New York. They're solo in New York. Not the box. But you see them at bodegas.

[C]

I feel like I've seen.

[B]

Yeah, they are incredible.

[A]

I agree. And I don't think white people eat honey buns.

[B]

Can we eat one right now?

[A]

That's why I have them.

[B]

Thank you. I'm starving.

[A]

See, that's the thing. I found out recently that white people don't eat honey buns.

[B]

Yeah, Well, I mean, I. Yeah, I feel like if we're talking Little Debbie, Hostess, it's more like the Little. Little Debbie. Wait, no. What's the. The. The swirl. The little.

[A]

You're talking about a Swiss roll.

[B]

Swiss roll, Yeah.

[C]

I mean, I've definitely.

[B]

Or a Hostess cupcake.

[A]

Yeah, well, Hostess is a Little Debbie. That's Hostess.

[B]

Yeah, that's Hostess. But, you know. But those are the two that stand out to me and Twinkies.

[A]

Yeah. So my favorite Little Debbie snack cakes are fancy cakes. And if I ever get married, I want my wedding cake to be made out of completely fancy cake.

[B]

Is that the one where it's cream in the middle and.

[A]

Yes, this is vanilla cake with vanilla cream and a vanilla hard icing around. They come two to a pack.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes.

[A]

They're hard to find these days. And the honey bun, like, we gotta. Don't.

[B]

Ooh. Come on.

[A]

So I wanna talk to you. Cause you've never had a honey bun.

[C]

Well, here's the thing. What did you. You said. I mean, I've had. I can almost imagine what this is gonna taste like. So I've either had this or something like this.

[A]

So when I mentioned honey buns, white people always say, oh, a cinnamon roll.

[C]

That must be what I'm thinking of.

[A]

And because the cinnamon roll is obviously. It's darker brown, you gotta have the cinnamon in it often drizzle going across. This is glazed.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

In my opinion, you do not want an iced honey bun. You want a glazed honey bun. It has to be glazed for me. Little Debbies are the best ones. Hostess are fine. When you buy the pack like this, they're pretty small, but when you go into the bodega, you can get a The big bunny bun for like 99 cent.

[B]

That's what I've gotten. That's the. I haven't had one of these. I haven't had one of these out of the package. I've only gotten the big ones.

[A]

I am willing to acknowledge that this might be because of my childhood, that it tastes as great as it does to me. And I'm prepared for. I'm prepared for you to be like.

[B]

I don't know, Bob, can I add.

[C]

One more thing that I almost don't even want to say out loud, but I'm going to. Just so we're aware, we're going to be. These. These are best if used by November 2025.

[A]

I ordered these from Uber Eats today. So this is.

[B]

This, this.

[A]

Those.

[B]

Those are suggestions. I know.

[C]

I bet it's best if used by it. So.

[B]

So you're saying that if.

[C]

That is days ago.

[B]

So you're saying if you're underwhelmed, it could be because of the aspirations.

[A]

Baby. We'd had these on November 19th.

[B]

Yeah. You'd have been like, as if the.

[C]

Cuz.

[B]

Cuz these are fresh and they need to be eaten by a certain day. Okay, let's get into this. Okay.

[C]

And okay, already. You can see. You can see some of the glaze sticks to the plastic opening.

[B]

I love that you can tell which is.

[A]

Which is fine because you can lick the plastic. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Oh, and you're good.

[C]

I see you do you do sort.

[A]

Of like a. Oh, I do a slide. You're just ripping. Ripping like an animal.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Very alpha male.

[B]

That's how I get into packages.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

First bite.

[A]

Yeah. I love this thing. I prefer you eat it glazed facing down. Down.

[B]

That's what I'm doing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That was mad because you.

[B]

The glaze hits your tongue.

[A]

What are you tasting with the roof of your mouth? Wait, glaze down.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. You gotta. The glaze on the top. This is not a cj. This is a little drier on the bottom.

[C]

Glazed. I would never think to eat glazed down.

[A]

But then it's just hitting the roof of your mouth. Like, I don't understand what you're experiencing.

[B]

You know what I do? I thought that's when I butter my toast. I don't eat it face up. I flip it around so the butter hits the tongue.

[A]

But not this maniac.

[B]

No, it's ma'. Am.

[C]

So I messed up.

[B]

Yeah. Ma', am. You don't know how to eat a honey bun. I don't know how to eat any.

[C]

Of it because I always go. Taste like the tasty thing on top.

[A]

No, you gotta put the glaze on your tongue.

[B]

No, you gotta flip it around.

[A]

This is incredible.

[B]

It's so good because it's so soft.

[C]

Soft.

[B]

And it's like. Like with a cinnamon roll or a sticky bun or whatever. There's dry parts, you know, it's like if you don't get a glaze part. This is like. It's. And it's not. It's not as dense as a donut. After I have a donut, I feel a little like some. A little something happened in my stomach. Not with this.

[A]

I'm telling you. I'll clear a box of these.

[C]

I actually think November 2025s are like, the best ones.

[A]

Have a November of 1999. Honey bun. Notes of oak in coriander.

[B]

Ah. Yeah. It could be a little better.

[A]

But I gotta tell you, you know, I really love honey buns. It's probably my favorite snack of all time. I can't. This is hard. I can't. Getting emotional.

[B]

I can't go.

[A]

There's gummies.

[B]

I love a gummy gummy worm or a.

[A]

Okay. Albanese gummy bears. Albanese brand. The world's finest gummies are the best. Gummy bear. This is unpaid promotion.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Mind you.

[B]

No.

[A]

And this is.

[B]

But this is important for people to know about. This is what. Especially the.

[C]

All the Beta boys.

[A]

And if you're, like. If you're eating Haribo, you don't have to live like that, because that's what everybody thinks.

[B]

That's the high end.

[A]

You don't have to live like this. There's a better way. You don't have to do this to yourself. But then again, I also love of on the snack side, the savory side of potato chip.

[C]

Me too.

[B]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Now what is your brand? What is your flavor?

[A]

Okay. Oh, there's so much to say here. I love texture wise, the best one is a muncho.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Can we get munchos? Can we get a muncho? Is that possible?

[B]

Can we pull it up here or there?

[A]

Munchos are you. They are very hard to find.

[B]

I feel like you can see it, but I don't know if I.

[A]

It's a red badge bag. They're just regular, plain flavored chips.

[B]

That's the macho.

[A]

And they're really crispy and airy.

[B]

I love.

[A]

I also love her brand jalapeno cheddar poppers. This is the best chip you'll ever have. I'm telling you right now. I've turned so many people onto this chip. It is. I will tell you, it is a flavor explosion. It is not for the faint of heart. It is a very strong. It's a strong chip.

[B]

Is it spicy? I mean, there's a jalapeno, but like, just a little bit. Kyle's favorite thing in the world, I would say if you asked me what his favorite food was, I'd say jalapeno. Jalapeno poppers.

[A]

Really?

[C]

I love jalapeno poppers.

[B]

I love them too.

[A]

Okay. You got to give this chip her brand. Jalapeno popper Cheddar Jalapeno poppers.

[B]

Can we. Can we order some so that we can try them at our next episode?

[A]

They don't sell them on the west coast. You have to buy them off of Amazon. Amazon and they'll ship them to you. But then at one point, Amazon stopped selling them, so I had to buy them from the her website on my. It was on my router for a while. And people call and be like, oh, my God, we don't know where to find these chips. We can't find these. I'm like, well, you're going to have to look hook.

[B]

Yes, that's a good writer because you have to put in a little work to get it.

[A]

I don't drink alcohol. I'm not here for. I don't have cocaine on there. Yeah, I took the hook off.

[B]

That'd be impressive to have hookers and cocaine on your writer.

[A]

Yes, Hooker's full of cocaine.

[B]

I don't want it. They have to come with it.

[A]

But now I know you're reading my writer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But. Yeah, so those are my. My. My favorite chips. And then like a more easily accessible chip. I do love a flaming hot Cheeto.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hot take. Put it in the freezer. Change. Change the texture.

[C]

I would say a cold take.

[A]

They. I'm going to see myself.

[B]

That's a flaming cold take.

[A]

But yeah, they changed it. It changed the texture. I'm going to do that Cheeto.

[B]

See, I like. I like a regular Cheeto. Just like classic, crunchy, crunchy. Not.

[A]

Is this in frame?

[B]

Yeah, that's in frame. Little Debbie, if you're listening, we would love to be an official. Get an official sponsorship.

[A]

I'd be so jealous if you got a sponsor.

[B]

You.

[C]

You Bob deserves it. I'm not.

[A]

I shouldn't.

[C]

You don't need to take.

[B]

He wants.

[A]

Well, I thought you were going to put it there. Which was giving.

[C]

Okay, that's fair.

[A]

Which I'm not even like a neat freak at all. But I was like, you can't just have that sitting there. That'd be crazy.

[B]

This is. This is exciting. Now. Now I can, like, because I think some people have some shame about Lil Debbie or Hostess. You know, they're like, oh, that's like. Like that's bad for you. That's made of fake stuff or whatever. Like a lot of food is that we all eat all the time, but, you know, it's kind of like, I love. And you call it a guilty pleasure, but I like, I love. Just embrace, like. This is so good. You know what I mean? It's like, better than, like, it's better than a lot of, like, high end, like expensive fancy donuts or pastries.

[A]

Baby, I don't care if they 3D printed this honey bun, I would still eat it.

[B]

Okay. It is so good.

[A]

Who's the CEO who talks shit about the 3D printed chicken? The Soup Company. You don't remember the CEO of that Soup company who was like. It was. I don't want to say. I don't want to say the wrong soup company.

[B]

Not Helen Hardy. Not soup.

[A]

It was like some Campbell's. Campbell's? Yeah, the Campbell's guy's like, I don't eat this shit with a 3D printed chicken. This is for broke people. Broke.

[B]

Damn. That's not a good thing to say.

[A]

No. We make food for, like, trash. Gutter trash. People who live in trailers and apartment homes.

[B]

It doesn't.

[A]

I would never eat this.

[B]

Is he still around? Can them. Did they.

[C]

Do they.

[B]

What can soup pretty good. Get it?

[A]

Get it, get who? He still got a job?

[B]

No, he got fired.

[A]

He got fired.

[B]

Good.

[C]

This was just recently.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know, it doesn't matter what you put in your body, as long as you get some good sleep and you're not stressing out too much.

[A]

How much you sleeping? How much y' all sleeping tonight? What you banking?

[B]

I'm trying to get seven. Last night I got six, but my wife just sent me a video about how people are getting like $250,000 blood transfusions, like monthly to stay young. And it like doesn't. There's something people are putting this thing called like NAD in their blood and it like keeps you young. It's like people do it regularly. It's like happening. It's like big in Hollywood.

[A]

250,000Amonth?

[B]

No, a year, I think. But it's like thousands of dollars anyway. It's supposed to. If you don't do it properly, it can be really bad for you. But like, all these doctors were like, it doesn't matter how much you spend, the most important thing is sleep.

[A]

How much are you making a night?

[C]

Anywhere from 4 to 7.

[B]

What about you?

[A]

Last night I would have been at 1:30 in the morning and I woke up at 8:37 hours. But sometimes when I'm traveling, nothing a solid 30 minutes. But baby, when I get to that plane. I can't stay awake on planes. I don't have the capacity. I don't have the ability.

[B]

Really. I mean, what are you doing with your. With your head? I mean, you might be in a nice. Nice lay down. Yeah, I mean, I. That I can't do it. And you're staying asleep.

[A]

I mean, so. You know what's really been annoying? When I get a lay flat bed. They're expensive people. I paid the money. I want to speak.

[C]

You don't like the lay flat?

[A]

No, let me finish.

[B]

Yeah, like that. That's not very beta. Let him speak.

[A]

Don't I get my lay flat bed and the fighters is walking around and I'm gonna go lay back while we're on the tarmac because I'm not gonna make it to the sky. I'm so sleepy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She walks by, you can't let your seat back. You can't let your seat back.

[B]

Why not?

[A]

Because I don't know. Whatever.

[B]

Yeah, what is it gonna do?

[A]

Literally, so then I fall asleep before we take off. I am. And then I slept all the way from LA to New York and I never got to lay flat. I Never got to lay flat.

[B]

And then you're waking up with a fucked up neck.

[A]

So at that point, that is the. I have spit honey bun all over the microphone. That is the one, one rule exception where you can wake me up on the plane. You know what I really don't wanna wake up for? For the microwave Hungry man meal. No, no, that.

[B]

Y' all are acting like it's gourmet short rib chicken.

[A]

Don't wake me up for that.

[B]

Short rib chicken.

[A]

Don't shake me. Shake. I've been shaken violently to be like, do I want a meal? I'm like, no, I want to sleep.

[B]

You should. Can you ask the flight attendant? Like, I'm going to fall asleep before we take off. Can you press the lay flap button? I'll be asleep, so just, like, take care of me. That's all I want. I will tell you what.

[A]

But if you are asleep when you're landing, they will hit the raise up button while you're still sleeping.

[B]

But they won't. They won't.

[A]

They will do it like a baby. Like a baby. And I just start going. Like my whole chair raises up like it folds me in half. I'm like, this is crazy.

[B]

That's not. That's not fair.

[A]

But you can't lay me flat. But you can fold me in half.

[B]

That's so fucked up.

[C]

And we hope you didn't get folded in half today. Thanks for listening to Beta Boys and.

[B]

Holding space for Beta Boys anywhere in the world. Let's open our hearts and our minds and we.

[C]

And we love our honey buns.

[A]

Do you know the whole.

[B]

Wait. What?

[C]

I know the phrase.

[A]

The meme. Holding space.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, from. Oh, yeah, of course. Yes, yes, yes.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Pinky.

[A]

No, that's not how you hold it.

[C]

I don't remember how they did.

[B]

I don't remember how it was done.

[A]

I want you to. Come on.

[B]

It's not that.

[A]

No. Nope. That's not it. Nope. Too much. There it is.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

I read all about this stuff. Beck's a doctor, I'm a doctor.

[C]

Bob, that.

[A]

If you were gonna be a doctor, which kind of doctor would you want to be?

[B]

Good question.

[C]

Give me a moment to think about that.

[B]

Gut. Gut. Just spit it out. Blink it.

[A]

I thought you were saying, like, gut health.

[C]

Well, is it too general to say children like a.

[A]

Like a podiatrist or. No, pediatrician. Well, you know, pediatricians in New York City go up to 25 years old. You know that. I went to the doctor.

[B]

They do what? They're five Years old. Oh, really?

[A]

I went to the emergency room when I was like, 23, because I had a really severe case of strep throat. I went to Bellevue, the free hospital, and I got there and I was in the emergency room, and the lady was like, how old are you? I was like, 23. She's like pediatrics. So it was me sitting next to a girl with like a. With like a. Like a girl with a scraped knee and a kid who, like, had a Lego in his ear and my big 6 foot 2 ass. Be like, I can't talk.

[B]

I can't talk. I need.

[A]

Which is crazy.

[B]

That is wild. That's so weird. Yeah.

[A]

I want to do plastic surgery.

[B]

You would?

[A]

Yeah. But I want to find a way to give plastic surgery to people who can't afford it. I know that sounds crazy, but I think that sometimes plastic surgery can really actually help people. Like, I think the. The confidence.

[C]

For sure.

[A]

We're in a place now where it's like, people act like it's all bad. It's okay to just change your body. Like it's your body. Change it up.

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

Feel good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you want a big rack or a smaller rack or you want lipos suction, or you need a nose job or want a nose job. If you want to get your foals done or Juvederm or a facelift. I would love to give facelift to a. I would. My dream would be to give a facelift to a woman and then she cheats on her husband. That's my dream.

[B]

But then hopefully she. She goes on to. She gets out of that relationship.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But her husband's bad in this story.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Not like. Not like one of you. You're.

[B]

I was just having this. Thank you. We were just this conversation about guys who ask their female partners to get things done and how it's like that's. That's. That's the opposite of what you're talking about.

[A]

No, you can encourage. You should not. If they want. They bring it to you. You should be encouraging, right?

[B]

Sure. Yeah. Whatever you want to do. But like. But like bringing it to them, being like, you should change this.

[A]

I'm not into straight guys as a general rule, but can I tell you something that I saw recently? I was like, holy smokes. I was in Ohio.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

These dads. Dads in Ohio.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Were smoking hot.

[B]

Really?

[A]

I was at the mall, in the township, something. Township. Union Township, I believe the name of the township. I was out of Cleveland, I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was at the mall. And it was like these dads were, like. All of them were, like, models.

[B]

Okay. So just like, I was thinking, like, they were just. They had a tough basic thing that was apparent. Pretty. In Ohio.

[A]

In Ohio. They were not, like, well dressed. They weren't dad hot.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

They were like. They had. They were. Had these beautiful bodies, full heads of hair, stunning faces, and they were, like, pushing the stroller, doing all the. They were, like, doing the work. It was really. And I saw, like, six of them at the same mall, and I was like, what's going on here? In.

[B]

We gotta talk to some of these dads.

[C]

I was gonna say, if any. If any of these dads are listening, please hit us up. We'd love to get some photos.

[B]

Yeah. Send photos of yourselves to us. And also give us your secrets. Yeah.

[C]

How do you look?

[B]

How do you look so nice?

[A]

When you became dads, did anyone start hating on you because you're a dad? Anyone see you taking care of your son and be like, oh, my God, that is so cute.

[B]

Definitely striking up some conversations. Yeah. Like, oh, you're. Oh, you're so cute. Oh, you're. I want to. I want to, like, hook up with you. Yeah. Stuff like that. No, No, I. I don't.

[A]

So you have.

[C]

Yeah. It sounds like you've definitely had that.

[B]

Oh, yeah, but they're like. They're like, you know, just.

[A]

Just once a week at this point.

[B]

Just propositioning me at the play.

[C]

Sorry. Do you mind if I hook up.

[B]

With you real quick?

[A]

Can I just.

[C]

You don't have to be involved.

[B]

I just want to do everything to you.

[A]

You didn't say the doctor you want to be.

[B]

I. I mean, pediatrician sounds great, but also, that's the one I would want to be. But then also anesthesiologist, maybe. I think they get. I think people see you just kind of, like, gas them. You know what I mean? You don't have to do a whole lot. Maybe you give them a shot, but it's not. It seems like. It seems easy. It seems like. And you get paid. Well, I'm sorry. To all the anesthesiologists out there.

[A]

It's like, literally, it's like you press a button.

[B]

You press a button, you're like, go to sleep. And they. They make that easy to be a doctor.

[C]

Once you got. You got. You get access to that stuff.

[B]

Yeah, you get a little hit every now and then.

[A]

Seems easy. Is the craziest thing someone said, yeah.

[B]

He'S coming around with a clipboard and a White jacket being like, yeah, everything looks pretty good.

[C]

He's lost all our anesthesiologist listeners.

[B]

No, I'm not easy. I. It's. I meant cool to all you anesthesiologist. Rocco's out there.

[A]

So to answer the question you were going to ask, I think the podcast went well.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes. I thought it went so well. It was beta board. We talked about Lion King and the dynamics. And you.

[C]

I feel like you have such a strong reading of that movie. Like, I was just. It was a pleasure to hear your. Your thought. I mean, I feel like you've lived in that.

[A]

It's my. It's one of my favorite. It's my top two favorite. I mean, Lion King and Color Purple go back and forth for me, to be honest. So it felt really nice to talk about it. A couple years ago, I was on like Tick Tock Live talking about Lion King, and I started. Started crying. Wow. Yeah, I just started crying. I was like, this movie is so perfect.

[B]

It's perfect.

[A]

Started crying is such a good movie. It got everything.

[B]

It really does.

[A]

It's got gay adoption.

[B]

It's got gay adoption. Yeah.

[A]

They raised him to be the man he became.

[B]

Yeah, they really did. Matata.

[A]

It's got.

[B]

Bringing a whole new philosophy you never even heard about.

[A]

But it covers. So it covers a range from like self confidence all the way over to domestic abuse. Like, it literally covers. Covers everything. It covers incest.

[B]

Wait, with Kuzanala is this.

[A]

They're from the same pride, bro.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

And then it also covers what happens when you're. When your gay brother marries your widow.

[B]

Oof.

[A]

And is trying to smash. And has a kid because there's a Part two because he has a child. Scara has a child.

[B]

I didn't know that. That I haven't seen part two.

[A]

He is not one of us. He ask for trouble the moment. Do you know this? No one. Just me. Anyway, Scar son is that Lion King.

[C]

One and a half or Lion King?

[A]

I'm going to tell you right now, scar, Lion King 2 is basically. It's essentially the same story as Black Panther. Okay, Scar, come. Scar son comes back and tries to claim the throne.

[C]

Wrong.

[A]

Anyway, the podcast went well, so I. I have a speech. I can't shut the up. I'll just keep talking forever.

[B]

No, it's. That's, that's why. That's why people love you. Is there why you are where you are?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You have a lot to say.

[C]

Is there anything besides Lion King you would like to talk about right now? Or plug or what's going on with you?

[A]

Yeah, so we're doing some really great content over the purse First Studios. You know, I open up. I open up a studio over in the valley and we produce some really great podcasts. We got some new podcasts coming out in the new year, one called quit playing with Amber Wallen and Jasmine W. We also have a comedy special with Zach Noy Towers coming out called Twink Death. We are just wrapping up season one of my show, the big question, which is each month we dive into a conversation about one big question. The questions are, why do black people hate musicals? We have, why do you dance for money? We have. I mean, there's so many great topics that we cover. Why are you ugly? Is one of the things that I talk about.

[B]

That's great.

[A]

Why do you want to be. Why do you want to be a parent? Why do you want children? And I do it. I just, I discover through like comedy roundtables, stand up comedy and man on the street style interviews and we kind of roll into one big episode and then we roll out long form material throughout the month.

[B]

That's incredible.

[A]

So I'm really, really proud of what we're doing. We're doing over press for studios. Check us out. Out. Just go to Purse First Studios on YouTube and check out all the amazing content we have there.

[B]

Check it out. Not first Purse Purse first.

[A]

Purse first. If you want to see me live. Oh, I should say if you want to see me live this. I will have wrapped my year. My shows for the year by the time this comes out, but I will be on Broadway. I'm gonna be on Broadway in Moulin Rouge from January 27th until March 2025th.

[B]

Yes. Amazing. We were. We're almost. We were almost going to be on Broadway at the same time.

[C]

He's going to be on Broadway.

[B]

I'm going to be on Broadway. I'm going to be an allout Simon Riches.

[A]

Be there.

[B]

It's. I'm going to be there. January 6th to 18th. It's my. It's my debut.

[A]

Oh, my God. It's my debut.

[B]

It's your debut.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Amazing.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Guys, are you singing?

[B]

I'm not singing. Honestly, it is the easiest way to make your Broadway debut. We're reading. We're like sitting and reading.

[A]

I am doing. Singing, dancing. I mean, I. Eight shows a week. Are you doing eight shows a week?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, we did eight shows. I did eight shows a week back when I did Berkeley Rep. I did a show called angels in America at the Berkeley repertoire. Three, a couple years ago. Eight shows a week. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. Probably inhumane.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah, I believe that.

[A]

Like, where's the union? This is crazy.

[B]

Where's the union?

[A]

How do the union.

[B]

Four on the weekend.

[A]

How did the union approve that? Yeah, Criminal.

[B]

It really is.

[A]

But I'm doing it and I can't wait to.

[B]

What would you suggest? Six. Six.

[A]

Six shows a week?

[B]

That feels fair.

[A]

Maybe if you got a crayon. Two, seven. Yeah, but two. Two show days is crazy. You get one day off a week, four days off a month.

[B]

That is crazy. That is insane. But if anybody can do it, it's you and me.

[C]

You know what else? Singing and dancing, turning over a honey bun and having the glaze at the.

[B]

Bottom of your tongue. Thank you for being here. When you get a honey bunny, turn it over, let the glaze hit your tongue.

[C]

Thank you, Bob the Drag Queen and Beck, you're amazing.

[B]

Fingies.

[C]

All right, what's our podcast is a Headgun podcast created and hosted by Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney.

[B]

The show is produced and engineered by Rachelle Chen and Anya Kanofskaya with production support from Ali Khan and Ryan Lutzow.

[C]

Our executive producer is Anya Kanufskaya. Katie Moose is our VP of content at Headgum. Our theme music is made by us.

[B]

For more podcasts by headgum, visit headcom.com or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[A]

That was a Headgum podcast.