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Beck Bennett
That's okay.
Matt Rogers
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Beck Bennett
What's our podcast? What's it gonna be all about? Tell us what's our podcast? What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle? The clock is on. We're rolling, brother. We're being recorded. Welcome back to another episode of what's Our Podcast? With Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney.
Kyle Mooney
The podcast where we. Where we. Where we don't know what our podcast is, and we ask people if they can. We have a guest come in and ask if they can help figure out what our podcast is.
Beck Bennett
But we don't need to say that every episode, do we? Do we need to say what the podcast is our producers are saying? Yes.
Kyle Mooney
I actually think it's the thing. One of the things that we're very. We're very bad at. I feel like we're constantly being told that we don't say it at the top of.
Beck Bennett
Exactly. But if I'm thinking about podcasts, they're not usually saying what the podcast is about right at the top. We're not going to be doing this forever, everybody. But we're holding your hand a little bit. And this is what's our podcast?
Kyle Mooney
Logan, what's our podcast? The podcast where we, Beck and Kyle, host a podcast, but we don't know what our podcast should be about. What the hell? So we invite guests to come on and pitch an idea for what they think the podcast should be about, and.
Beck Bennett
Then we give it a shot, and we try to make that our podcast. Hmm. Maybe it will be our podcast.
Kyle Mooney
And we talk about sort of how a podcast should be made.
Beck Bennett
And how God affects that and how God can show up in little ways in our life here and there as little creatures and little messages.
Kyle Mooney
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Kyle Mooney
Actually, Beck and I were just talking about little tiny gods that you sometimes find around the house and how they could actually be really interesting sometimes and have interesting things to say.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. I have always thought that when you find a little God and they start talking to you, I'm like, what? The first I was kind of like, what the heck is going on? But then I realized that it's actually normal.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Kyle Mooney
So B.
Beck Bennett
Okay. So.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
What's going on, Kyle?
Matt Rogers
Dude.
Beck Bennett
Dude, I haven't seen you since the last time we did a podcast.
Kyle Mooney
My stomach hurts.
Beck Bennett
Oh, did you eat something nasty?
Kyle Mooney
I don't know what it is, but my stomach has been hurting for about three months. Yeah, it's just this long and I can't sleep.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
I'm having trouble talking to people even.
Beck Bennett
Like, nobody cares, dude.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. It's like stuff is spilling out, spilling out, out of my body, and I'm. It's really interesting.
Beck Bennett
Spilling out of your body every.
Kyle Mooney
Every few minutes or so there's something more that'll, you know, come out the.
Beck Bennett
Back end or something. Probably.
Kyle Mooney
Yes.
Beck Bennett
And that's usually where it comes out.
Kyle Mooney
And it's some sort of issue with my stomach and.
Beck Bennett
Is that because you've been on tour?
Matt Rogers
I think it's.
Beck Bennett
You've been road dogging it.
Kyle Mooney
Yes, but it's. Yes, but it's been happening even before then.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. I remember you always talking about that.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
Being in the dressing room at SNL and talking about all the stuff that.
Matt Rogers
Would come out of you.
Kyle Mooney
It's really terrible. I haven't slept for a long time.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. Since snl.
Kyle Mooney
I was.
Beck Bennett
Or even before that. Have you.
Matt Rogers
No, I was.
Kyle Mooney
I feel like it started probably season 38.
Beck Bennett
Okay. So before we got there.
Kyle Mooney
Season 48. No, season.
Beck Bennett
Season 48.
Kyle Mooney
Season.
Matt Rogers
I thought.
Beck Bennett
I thought you said 38.
Matt Rogers
I did.
Kyle Mooney
39 is when we got there.
Beck Bennett
Exactly. All right, so you've been having stomach problems.
Kyle Mooney
How are you, man? Dude, have I been so any. So I'm curious. So, yeah.
Beck Bennett
Late on me.
Kyle Mooney
You know, I always. We, like, we love talking to our cameras.
Beck Bennett
Our.
Kyle Mooney
What's. Our podcast.
Beck Bennett
Our followers.
Kyle Mooney
Our. What do we call them?
Beck Bennett
Our. Not our Rockos.
Kyle Mooney
Hi, Deo Rockos.
Beck Bennett
And Kyle's just gonna leave that there.
Kyle Mooney
So we've been hearing a lot from our Rockos. Rockos about what's. If you're watching this episode of the podcast.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
You may notice that Beck has.
Matt Rogers
A.
Kyle Mooney
Little wear and tear.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. I've been beaten up a little bit.
Kyle Mooney
Let the Roccos know what's going on.
Beck Bennett
Oh, let the Rockos know. Oh, okay. To all my Roccos out there who are seeing me right now going, what the hey is going on with Beck's face? I was roughhousing with my son, three and a half years old, and we were kind of just goofing around, and he. He's getting into wrestling right now, and he kind of popped up and headbutted me right here below my eye. It's okay. It was. It was well worth it, as you know.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
As you know, the. The. It's all worth it.
Kyle Mooney
It's.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
It's so fun.
Beck Bennett
It's so funny.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
But it is very fun. Yeah. He's got into wrestling. Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Wow. I remember the old school wrestlers. I was just thinking back in the day about, I remember, you know, Macho Man, Randy Savage.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Jake the Snake. He had the Snake.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
A lot of old school wrestlers. Really interesting stuff.
Beck Bennett
That's great, man. And do you ever do that? Are you ever dressed up?
Kyle Mooney
Yeah, I was never a professional wrestler. I liked it all back in the day. And I remember there was that wrestler Sting who did both wwf. I don't remember that one. And he did wcw.
Beck Bennett
But were you ever wrestling around the house still?
Kyle Mooney
I was never a professional wrestler.
Beck Bennett
I know you weren't professional. I'm talking about amateur around the house.
Kyle Mooney
I will sometimes wrestle the tiny gods.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. If just for fun or if I've upset them. Yeah, I hear that, brother.
Kyle Mooney
No, we're messing around. We have a lot. One thing about our podcast, we have a lot of fun. Sometimes you'll hear stuff that's true. Sometimes you hear stuff that is not true. So it's up to you, our fellow Rockos, to try to figure it out.
Beck Bennett
Because the message.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Kyle Mooney
Because this is. Every day is a mystery when you're dealing with these two guys.
Beck Bennett
Yes, yes, yes. Funky, funky. So Kyle's drumming. You know what that means? It's time for pelvis talk.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
What's going on, man?
Beck Bennett
Oh.
Kyle Mooney
Okay.
Beck Bennett
Was that. Was that, Was that it? Was that the whole. That was the whole beat.
Kyle Mooney
Last episode we did was with Sam Fragoso.
Beck Bennett
Really fun. Ooh, your mic is a little limp.
Kyle Mooney
Reminds me of something.
Beck Bennett
Kyle keeps trying to put up his mic and he keeps going. Keeps flopping down a little bit. That's okay, though.
Kyle Mooney
It was a good episode. All the episodes have been great.
Beck Bennett
All the episodes have been great. Everything has been perfect. And we have people in, as you know, we don't know what our podcast is about.
Kyle Mooney
So we had a great. We had a great guest today.
Beck Bennett
We do have a great guest today. And this is the part where we say who the guest is, right?
Kyle Mooney
Yeah. Are we there? Should we do it?
Beck Bennett
Oh, he is the self proclaimed king, I think, of Christmas pop. A pop.
Kyle Mooney
Pop prince.
Beck Bennett
Christmas pop prince. See, I just don't know the. I don't know all the things. But, um, he's. He's the self proclaimed Prince Pop.
Matt Rogers
Prince.
Kyle Mooney
Pop Christmas.
Beck Bennett
Prince Pop Prince of Christmas. Pop Prince of Christmas.
Kyle Mooney
It's gonna be a fun one.
Matt Rogers
Yay.
Beck Bennett
Creator of Las Culturistas.
Kyle Mooney
Co creator, I imagine, right?
Beck Bennett
Did I say co creator?
Kyle Mooney
Did you?
Beck Bennett
One of the creators. And the. And the culture Awards, which are a huge award show. We have the incredible Matt Rogers.
Kyle Mooney
Matt Rogers is here today.
Beck Bennett
Very excited to have him on and his incredible energy. Let's just get to it.
Kyle Mooney
Cool. You've been listening or watching what's our podcast with Beck, Ben and Kyle Mooney. Don't get much better than this. Go ahead.
Beck Bennett
Well, it's about to get much better than this with Matt Rogers.
Kyle Mooney
Here's Matt.
Beck Bennett
All right. You know that feeling? It's game day. You've been working hard.
Kyle Mooney
Who are you right now?
Beck Bennett
I'm just me. I'm. I'm just kind of being like a tough. Like, just a tough version.
Kyle Mooney
You don't need to be. I don't think we have to be tough versions of ourselves.
Beck Bennett
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Kyle Mooney
Dude, that was perfect.
Beck Bennett
All right, now you go.
Kyle Mooney
All right, so, like, let's talk about some of the things we want to highlight here.
Beck Bennett
Wait, I'm sorry, what voice is that?
Kyle Mooney
Somebody who's insecure and doesn't really know their place in the world.
Beck Bennett
Just kind of like. Just kind of be tough guy. Like, kind of like you just kind of like, got a big old jacket on. You're kind of like, you know, you've been working all day and kind of like big muscles all over your body. No problem.
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Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
You got it. You finish it up.
Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
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Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
I hear that, dude.
Kyle Mooney
Yep. And even when we do it.
Matt Rogers
Yep. It's the same.
Kyle Mooney
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Beck Bennett
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Matt Rogers
I just.
Beck Bennett
I just want to know what it tastes like, you know what I mean?
Kyle Mooney
Yob. Guess what?
Matt Rogers
What's up?
Beck Bennett
What's. What's going down?
Kyle Mooney
I ate some tempo.
Matt Rogers
Oh, no way.
Beck Bennett
You got your Tempo, dude.
Kyle Mooney
I had the Italian sausage pasta, I had the southern mushroom gravy chicken, and I had the Sunday sauce meatballs, bro. Dude.
Beck Bennett
Oh, just like Nona used to make.
Kyle Mooney
No, she never made this stuff. Like, for that, she was drinking her scatch whiskey. But, yo, let me just tell you, this food was bomb. I especially like the pasta one and the meatballs.
Beck Bennett
Dude, you heard it right from Kyle's lips. Tempo. It's better than Nona, so.
Kyle Mooney
No, no, no, no. Nona didn't do stuff. Nona. Nona did. Nona. That. For me, she was drinking her scotch whiskey.
Beck Bennett
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Beck Bennett
Hell yeah.
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Kyle Mooney
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Kyle Mooney
Ruby's your son's young life. I don't know if you want to bleep that out. I apologize.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, his name's Ruby. It's okay.
Kyle Mooney
I feel like you spelled him out as being very sort of.
Matt Rogers
In love with nature and soft boy vibes, bugs.
Kyle Mooney
So to me, this is actually a little bit of a reveal.
Beck Bennett
It is coming out. It is coming out of nowhere.
Matt Rogers
Is he stronger than you anticipated he would be? Cause this is the other thing is it's like when you realize what your kid is fucking made of.
Beck Bennett
He's stronger than I realized. And he popped up. He had butted me. Yeah, yeah. And he. And he was like, see, I got your ass. That's. That's what surprised me. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, he's not that strong. He's three and a half. But he did start like he wasn't one of the maniacs in his class. Like there were kids his age that were like coming up.
Kyle Mooney
He's getting influence is the problem.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kyle Mooney
He's becoming out inspired.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah. I remember like when we were. Are we going? Is this it?
Beck Bennett
We're going.
Kyle Mooney
It's happening.
Beck Bennett
Sorry.
Kyle Mooney
Is that okay?
Matt Rogers
No, this is great. I like it. So when I was in middle school, like I was kind of. Not really. I think like I was like slow to make friends, like gay kind of hit me. And then I got insecure and I went to like an 11 inch girl spurt. So then I made friends with the boys, like. Cause I was quoting him in like 9th grade. I finally started to fit in a little bit. And that's when I was like around like kids that were really clicking into puberty. And I remember my one friend, like just out of nowhere would just be Like, I want to fight this weekend. Like, Irish kid, like, fight with you like an ice.
Beck Bennett
Or like, go find a fight. Just like fight with somebody this weekend.
Matt Rogers
I want to fight.
Beck Bennett
But that is horrific.
Kyle Mooney
Terrifying. I don't know that I knew.
Matt Rogers
I think it was an Irish Catholic, Long island thing. Yeah.
Beck Bennett
Oh, sure.
Kyle Mooney
Oh, yeah.
Matt Rogers
But the thing was, like, it did come out of nowhere. And it was at that point, like, 8th, 9th grade, where it was like, okay, things are shifting. Things are changing, you know, the levels are leveling or not. And this I remember. We would, like. It was also big binge drinking culture on Long island, which is a terrible mix.
Beck Bennett
And when did that start? Like, 8th May.
Matt Rogers
For May 9th, we're talking. We're talking Georgi vodka. Remember Georgi? G, E, O, R, G, I.
Beck Bennett
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Cheap as shit, essentially. Rubbing alcohol.
Kyle Mooney
We were.
Matt Rogers
Popov.
Kyle Mooney
Popov.
Matt Rogers
Popov. Yeah, Popov.
Beck Bennett
I went to the Captain Morgan's Pineapple Rum. That was a nice starter.
Matt Rogers
The first thing we did, I remember, I'll never forget, we went to my friend Lorianne's house and we drank a handle of Bacardi Raz. Ooh. Out of little plastic cups. And it was like, Bacardi Raz. Like, you know, we were flying high. Yeah. But it was. It was like, really connected to, like, also these big, like. I don't know if you'd call it like puberty, but like, young adolescence.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. You're surging. You're just like. Your body's going crazy.
Matt Rogers
I remember the kids want to fight.
Beck Bennett
And kids want to fight. I remember in, like, it was kind of in, like, for me, it was maybe seventh, sixth grade. I was like, I was like, I want my, like, group of friends.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
Like, I had a lot of friends that were spread out, like, different grades, different schools. You know, like a girl who's. That's, like, at that time, it's like different friend groups. Like, she was. She was younger too, and, like. But it was like they were all spread out. And then I was like, I want my group of friends. And I, like, I became friends with this group of kids that were kind of like, kind of the cool kids in my junior high. And they were tough and there was a leader and they would like every. There was like a rotating thing of like, you're on the outs and you have to earn. Like, it was like, there was a lot of making fun, and then they would kind of like, start fights. They'd be like, fight this kid.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
Or we don't like this kid. And it was like a lot of Peer pressure, like, mob mentality.
Kyle Mooney
It was Lord of the Flies or something like that.
Matt Rogers
You know what, though? I don't know what it is. Cause I also had a clique of friends, and I really wanted to belong. And I was on the outside until I was on the inside. And I literally can connect it to two movies like, I went to see. I remember my. My family took me and my cousin to Dorney park in Pennsylvania, and it was the rainiest day in Pennsylvania history. I swear to God.
Beck Bennett
Not a good day for the parks.
Matt Rogers
Could not go to the parks, so we went to go see Anchorman instead. And it downloaded into my brain immediately. You know those, like, movies you see at a certain age or whatever? Like that just like, sort of. I had it memorized right after.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
So that. For the boys and mean girls. For the girls, it was like these quotable.
Kyle Mooney
Was that the same summer?
Matt Rogers
2004. Ish. 2000 something. It hit around the same time.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
So it was like these two zeitgeisty senses of humor that I was able to download and therefore, like, sort of into both the girl half and the guy half of this friend group.
Beck Bennett
And then I was like, so you had the cash. You had, like, you were able to drop all the lines and you had the. The cachet.
Matt Rogers
I think I was code switching icon is what I was.
Kyle Mooney
That's amazing.
Matt Rogers
I basically was like. I was like. I was like, oh, dude. And then also like, yeah, I'm listening. You know, at the same time. Like, it's hard to do. Oh, dude. And I'm listening to you. Yeah, But I could.
Beck Bennett
I could see. I could see that you were able to pull that off.
Matt Rogers
Well, by the time I graduated high school, and I don't think this is, like, a point of pride anymore, but I was prom king.
Beck Bennett
Oh, yes.
Matt Rogers
I went from no friends. No friends.
Beck Bennett
But no, when was no friends? Because it seemed like you.
Matt Rogers
You were seventh and eighth grade. It was bleak. It was like I had, like, a weird sense of humor. Like, I can remember things I did. And I was like, why that?
Kyle Mooney
So what's a classic bit?
Matt Rogers
One bit I did was I just wrote the words that's so Raven on my piece of paper and just held it up at the front of class.
Beck Bennett
That's funny. That's so ravenous.
Matt Rogers
I thought it was, too, at the time. And everyone was just like, what are you doing? And I was just like, I think I'm ahead of y'. All. I think this. That's so raven bit I'm doing just, like, advertising.
Kyle Mooney
It did one per. Was there one person who was like, that's just.
Beck Bennett
That's funny.
Matt Rogers
I don't think so. And if they were, they were not willing to stand up and say. They were not willing to say. The marketing you're doing for. That's so raven right now at apropos of nothing is funny.
Beck Bennett
So were you like. Were you like, I want to become cool. I want to become. I want to become popular. Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Remember any of your bits? I'm. You're just reminding me of a bit I did in probably seventh grade and I was on the outs with the. The popular in seventh grade.
Matt Rogers
You were?
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
I feel like I was in seventh grade. Like I was trying to get in. It's a tough sixth grade. And then seven sixth, seventh.
Matt Rogers
Internal weirdos. Which I think the three of us all are. Is. It's like, it's hard, like, because it's like you. You. You want to be fucked up and weird, but that's when they start telling you, like, you can't really do it anymore because you're in elementary school and early middle school and everyone's like, weird and still a kid.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And then all of a sudden it is.
Beck Bennett
For me, it was dances. There are dances. And it was like, I don't have anybody to go with.
Matt Rogers
Fuck.
Beck Bennett
And it was like all these people, like, what, am I supposed to just get dropped off?
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
Alone by my mom? I was like, it. Like.
Matt Rogers
And then. Then you're spun.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
But what was your bit? Yeah.
Beck Bennett
What was your bet?
Kyle Mooney
Thank you for asking.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, I was.
Matt Rogers
I was.
Beck Bennett
I was going to bring it back to.
Kyle Mooney
No, no.
Beck Bennett
But he's a pro. He's one of the best.
Matt Rogers
Top 100 podcast today, actually.
Kyle Mooney
Congratulations. And we need to ask you, like, actual genuine questions on how to do it. Do a decent.
Matt Rogers
You guys are great.
Kyle Mooney
My. Oh, no, it's like, not. It's truly just whatever.
Beck Bennett
It's me.
Kyle Mooney
My buddy kind of a scenario.
Beck Bennett
Really.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Do you guys have a notepad? Like, right on.
Kyle Mooney
Guest brings so, so much.
Beck Bennett
Really brings incredible energy.
Matt Rogers
Poster.
Kyle Mooney
Such a non. Bit. But I remember being at 7:11 after school.
Matt Rogers
This rocks already. Ah, this is such a good vibe already. I love serpents. Don't even like that.
Beck Bennett
We hit up the 711 after school. We had White Hen, actually.
Kyle Mooney
Okay, thanks.
Beck Bennett
Thanks. So we are. Yeah, ours was kind of White Hen for the.
Matt Rogers
For everybody listening.
Kyle Mooney
It's all good.
Beck Bennett
It's all good.
Kyle Mooney
Don't worry about it.
Beck Bennett
I'm really sorry, man.
Kyle Mooney
Did you have White Hen?
Beck Bennett
Did we have White Hen? Yeah. We had white hen. It was kind of a 711 thing in the Midwest. But anyway, Kyle, go ahead with your bit.
Kyle Mooney
Well, Mario Kart was big at the time.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
And we were at 7:11 and they had some like kind of Mario Kart stuffies, sort of plushies.
Beck Bennett
Amazing. This is getting better.
Kyle Mooney
And I was with my pal Dave, who was in the carpool with me.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Beck knows as well.
Beck Bennett
Absolutely.
Kyle Mooney
And I think I grabbed like a Wario plushie and I started doing the Wario voice.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
I was just like that. I'm a Wario. I'm gonna win. And Dave was cracking up.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. He loved it.
Kyle Mooney
Yes, he loved it. And behind me were some were. And I don't want to name names, but some. Some of the folks who were really cool and they were not feeling it.
Matt Rogers
They were in loving Wario and then.
Kyle Mooney
But I. Whatever. I was right eyes. I'm a Wario.
Matt Rogers
I'm going away. Because Dave was. It worked for Dave.
Beck Bennett
Dave was.
Kyle Mooney
He was loving it.
Beck Bennett
Dave can be critical, but he was loving it.
Kyle Mooney
He was loving it at the time. I'm pretty. And I. To be fair, I might have been quoting another Mario character, but I'm pretty sure that was it. Anyway, the next day or so, I think Dave told me some of the effect of like. Yeah, I don't. I'm used some. Some fake names here.
Matt Rogers
Go ahead.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah, I guess Laurie and Jason just really don't like you.
Beck Bennett
And.
Kyle Mooney
And he's like. And I don't get it because that Super Mario Cart bit was fucking hilarious. But it's like, look, you think about it right now, it's like, well, that's not a bit.
Matt Rogers
It was. I think it was a bit.
Kyle Mooney
I think I was just doing what the character said. I was.
Beck Bennett
Did you do it once? Did you ever do it again?
Matt Rogers
I guess in order to be a bit, it has to be recurring.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. Was it just a one time impression? Because if you did it again, was.
Kyle Mooney
It a landmark event to me? A bit more would have been like, I'm a Wario and I'm gonna eat your butt.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Yeah.
Beck Bennett
There was.
Kyle Mooney
There was no.
Matt Rogers
Like, he's doing his. What? He's doing his. Wario's gonna rim me.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kyle Mooney
There's no turn.
Beck Bennett
I'm gonna eat your butt in the.
Matt Rogers
I'm. I'm a. Like it like engaging in the reality that one of Wario's things, outside of being like short, evil Mario is he loves eating ass. Like, that's like. And we can only engage in it in the atmosphere of 7:11am Slurpees and like the great energy of everyone working there.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. And he's. He's putting the smooth. He's putting the.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
The slushies on the butts and eating the butts with the slushies.
Kyle Mooney
But I. But like, I don't.
Beck Bennett
That would be something.
Kyle Mooney
I think it's okay that those folks weren't that into that because, like.
Beck Bennett
Oh, I think it's essential. I think it was.
Kyle Mooney
But that's so Raven. I think is good.
Matt Rogers
I actually think looking back and I've never talked about this bit until literally today because I've been self conscious about it and. But then I had a bit that really worked. Yeah. So this was my other bit. Whenever we'd have a substitute teacher and they were going through attendance, if anyone ever wasn't there, like, for example, like Mark here, Jane here, Lorianne, I go. I would just go, oh. And the teacher would go, what? And I would say, lorianne passed away fourth period.
Beck Bennett
Wow.
Matt Rogers
She passed away.
Beck Bennett
So scary. But making a fourth period. It's funny.
Matt Rogers
Like some of my best early acting, like, really dropped down like, oh, God, this is hard. She just passed away about three periods ago.
Beck Bennett
Wow.
Matt Rogers
And one time my Earth science teacher goes. Cause it usually crushed, but this day with this teacher, it did not crush.
Kyle Mooney
These were substitutes.
Matt Rogers
These were substitutes.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
This one was a sub for Earth Science. And she goes, that's not funny. I knew a child that died. And I said, well, now it's not funny. I was like, I would argue it was funny until you brought in a dead kid. Real dead kid. Because Lorianne is sick.
Beck Bennett
Right.
Kyle Mooney
She's.
Matt Rogers
She's not dead. She's not going to be fine. That we know. And you know what I mean? Like, she could have been dead, but she wasn't. This child, the one you're literally bringing into the real atmosphere right now, and we are children.
Beck Bennett
Right.
Matt Rogers
Is really dead. Yeah. So I was like, I think you kind of made it weird.
Beck Bennett
And did you. Do you remember saying that to her?
Matt Rogers
Oh, yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Did you get in trouble?
Matt Rogers
I did. I was sent out of the room.
Kyle Mooney
But you'd already done it before.
Matt Rogers
I had done it successfully many times before.
Kyle Mooney
And so like a substitute.
Matt Rogers
So you're like, it was just really hard for me.
Kyle Mooney
They passed fourth grade. And then the other substitute teacher's like, that's fucking fun.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. No, they were like, okay, I see you.
Beck Bennett
That is advanced.
Matt Rogers
You know what?
Beck Bennett
It's not just like being obnoxious. It is like, it's a joke.
Matt Rogers
It's a real joke. And I think that it's just. It really depended on, like, how cool the person was with being put on their heels in that type of way. Like, either you laugh and everyone laughs or you act like, oh, no. I now have to reassert my dominance in this room.
Kyle Mooney
I remember the kids more than I remember the adult. I remember, like, when a kid would stand up to an adult. There was something incredibly dramatic and cinematic about that. Like, I remember when this kid Dustin, who was like, sort of a. Sort of a bad kid. Like one day he showed up with, like, his shirt was torn up because I think he was roughhousing with some people. And he. He famously said before school one time, like, what's going on? We were. I don't know. We ran in. What's going on? Dustin? He's like, not much. I was just hanging out with Sharkey. He's got a gun. Like, that was like one of his phrases.
Matt Rogers
He threw it away like that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kyle Mooney
And we're like, oh, Sharkey.
Matt Rogers
Okay. Sharkey.
Kyle Mooney
Kind of tight, but. Yeah, but I rem. He was in our. Whatever. One of our science classes. And he was being. He was being an asshole. Whatever he was doing. Maybe he was just like, shut the fuck up or something mid class or something. I don't know what. But he didn't say the F word, though. I shouldn't make it seem more extreme than it was.
Matt Rogers
And this was his real name?
Kyle Mooney
Dustin was his real name.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. So, yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah. But yes, He. The a teacher got upset with him, was like, dustin, I think you're gonna have to leave. You're being a little too loud and you're gonna have to go see Mrs. Washington.
Matt Rogers
Damn.
Kyle Mooney
And Dustin says, Mrs. Washington. Her old ass. I'd rather just see my girlfriend.
Matt Rogers
Wow.
Beck Bennett
And did.
Matt Rogers
And like, we like her old ass.
Beck Bennett
Her old ass.
Kyle Mooney
Period.
Matt Rogers
And like, tore her up.
Kyle Mooney
There's so much. To me. There's so many funny things happening there.
Matt Rogers
Cause, like, yes, he's one.
Kyle Mooney
He's saying old ass. Which, like, to us, like, that's crazy. That was cool that he just said that. But then he's also saying, I'd rather see my girlfriend. Well, that's obvious.
Matt Rogers
Mrs. Washington. Her old ass. I'd rather see my girlfriend. Like, wow, that's really important stuff.
Beck Bennett
That's very. That is very important stuff.
Kyle Mooney
Between that and Sharkey. Like, that. Yes. I've lived off that for, you know, 30 years.
Beck Bennett
That's huge. That's huge.
Matt Rogers
I still do the bit too. Like when someone's like, who's. Where's someone? I will just. I will sometimes be like, I'll feel the spirit of me in high school being like, do it, do it. It's still good.
Beck Bennett
It's still good. That's classic. That's timeless. It's not rude. It's playful. It's fun.
Matt Rogers
And people are like, okay. But they don't, you know, like, it's kind of whatever now. Like, it's not gonna hit as hard as it did in high school. Cause a teen isn't saying it. It's not as shocking.
Beck Bennett
Right.
Matt Rogers
But the that's so Raven thing, I do think appears later in my life, because I do think there's nothing funnier than, like, overt commercialization.
Beck Bennett
Yes.
Matt Rogers
I'll never forget me and Sudi Green. We were in college, and we were. She had just smoked me out for the first time. I was her ra.
Beck Bennett
Okay. Love that. Love, Sudie. Love you guys. Smoking weed in college.
Matt Rogers
She actually, like, I was her RA fully. And we had become friends in my sketch comedy group, and we were like. She was like, let's smoke weed. And I was like, okay. Because it was my duty. It was my day to hold the phone so no one could rat on me. Because it was. It was my job.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
At that time. To rat on people doing what we were doing.
Beck Bennett
Right, Right.
Matt Rogers
I was fired as an RA a year later.
Kyle Mooney
Okay.
Matt Rogers
Not for cool stuff. I just forgot to pick up the phone.
Beck Bennett
Oh, I didn't know that was such a big deal, being an ra picking up the phone.
Matt Rogers
Got to go get the phone. Cuz if they can't call you, what happens when someone falls down?
Beck Bennett
Right. Right. And then they're on the ground.
Matt Rogers
They fired me for that. And also they said my bulletin boards were not creative enough.
Beck Bennett
Oh, that is bullshit.
Matt Rogers
You.
Kyle Mooney
That is.
Beck Bennett
Were you. What were you putting in the work?
Kyle Mooney
That is tough.
Beck Bennett
No, you weren't.
Matt Rogers
You were phoning it in booking, playing the Marquis de Sade in the punk rock musical version of Murat Saad at nyu.
Beck Bennett
Congratulations, dude. That is amazing.
Kyle Mooney
Are you in that?
Beck Bennett
No, I was in.
Matt Rogers
Were you in that?
Beck Bennett
And I played that same part that was at.
Kyle Mooney
I feel like they did that show when we were in college. Did they?
Beck Bennett
I don't.
Matt Rogers
Wait, what? Remind me of the college we went to?
Beck Bennett
Usc. Usc.
Matt Rogers
Usc. But I do probably.
Kyle Mooney
I am curious of. I want to go into. I want to go. I want to get some NYU questions and some genuine podcasts.
Matt Rogers
So podcast. This is why I wanted to bring up the Sudi thing was because I was an ra. And then I went on a tangent about getting fired, but we're in my room smoking weed. And I was like, okay, we have to watch this show. And I was obsessed with the X Factor.
Kyle Mooney
I loved the X Factor.
Matt Rogers
It was so good. So I loved it so much. So Sudi, like, Sudi was one of those kids, like, when she was growing up, like, her mom was, like, a tough Iranian immigrant. Like, they never went to Disney World. Like, Barbies were bad, et cetera. You know what I mean? It was that vibe, but not me. It was like, we only go to Disney World. Why go to Europe if I can go to Epcot?
Beck Bennett
You kind of. I think. I feel like that was kind of a. We were like nature and, like, not tv. And Kyle was in San Diego and was like, Disneyland and, like, all.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
So I'm more. That was more on my side of the street. And so I remember we're watching the X Factor, and I was like, you have to see this one girl's audition. She's amazing. And Sidi was just like, this is bullshit. And I was like, what? And she goes, look at how the camera pans up her body and then cuts back to Simon Cowell and there's two Pepsi cans in front of him. Like, this is just, like, an ad to, like, make money off her body, et cetera. And, like, look at how there's not one single shot that's not Pepsi.
Beck Bennett
Wow.
Matt Rogers
And I was just like, oh, my God. And it was like. I saw. It was like when you're, like, deaf and put in the cochlear implant or something that you could hear. Suddenly I couldn't stop noticing how much we were being advertised to all the time. I was like, wow. In America, you can actually. In New York City, you can't actually walk around without being. Without a targeted ad coming at you in some way.
Kyle Mooney
Yes.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And so then I became obsessed with my sense of humor. Like, a lot of it was like. Like making fun of, like, commercial stuff. You know what I mean? Just, like, the fact that capitalism is so aggressive, I think is funny.
Beck Bennett
Like, any catchphrases? Any, like, anything like that?
Matt Rogers
Anything like that. It's a big reason why the Culture Awards, like, is what it is, is because, like, I like to satirize, like, the whole, like, business of it all.
Kyle Mooney
Sure.
Matt Rogers
So, like, that, to me, is funny. So I think, like, it does. There was something in me that knew marketing that's so Raven for no reason in class is funny. Like, it was some sort of, like, flat circle. I really think, like, that's, like, something I was getting at way back when.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah, no, I buy it.
Matt Rogers
I used to think, like. And I'll be, oh, this is candid. But, like, when I was coming up. Well, here we go.
Beck Bennett
Candid moment.
Matt Rogers
So bring in the other cameras. Bring in the other cameras.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. Getting real close.
Kyle Mooney
All of a sudden, it's like a. There's a. Another person who comes in and his. And he's like, oh, he's got. He's got water balloons for some reason.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got water balloons. What?
Matt Rogers
They throw him at me because they don't want me to be.
Beck Bennett
They don't want you to be candid.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. They're like, shut the fuck off. Adrenaline. But I remember, like, when I was coming up in comedy, that was what my sensibility was, like, aired towards the more, like, commercial. Like, I'm a singer. Like, I like my. I like to have things really tight, et cetera. And then, like, you know, I was like a UCB kid, et cetera. And then there was, like, this alt comedy that was happening that was like Julio and Patty Harrison. And, you know, I always felt like what they were doing was so much cooler and, like, more unique and more like, auteur than what I was doing because, like, I was very, like, in a system and wanted to be commercially successful, but I also was satirizing it and thought it was funny.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And at a certain point, like, I stopped picking on myself about that and was like, no, this is the way that you're just. This is just your sensibility. It's okay that it's not like, yeah.
Kyle Mooney
You got a lane. You got, like, when you find that lane, that's the. That's a jewel in itself.
Matt Rogers
Right?
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I think, like, that was another thing too. Like, I remember, like, when I was in college doing sketch and then, you know, doing my indie sketch and doing all that, like, it was like. It was like a death march towards SNL for me. It was just like, that is what it will be. That is where I belong.
Beck Bennett
That's what you want. That's what you're going for.
Matt Rogers
And then Sudi got hired as a writer when we were 24, and she was by far the youngest person that was writing there at the time, we knew. And all of a sudden, it became this thing where, you know, the spaceship had sort of taken up my best friend. And then I turned to my other best friend, that was Bowen, and then three years later, we would both screen test for it at the same time. Totally irrespective of each other. We were not hired together. I just don't think they would have hired two gay guys as a duo.
Beck Bennett
Impossible.
Matt Rogers
No. And so, like, I. So they. At the time, they just wouldn't have. And so it was like. I remember they put us in the same dressing room for our screen test, which felt like a manipulation.
Kyle Mooney
That's it.
Beck Bennett
That's tough.
Kyle Mooney
Were you in? Did you have any? I had a solo room.
Beck Bennett
I think I had a solo room for the tower.
Matt Rogers
They put us in the same room.
Kyle Mooney
How many people do you remember? How many people were there?
Matt Rogers
So we went. I remember the buzz on the street was at the time was that they were looking to try to get an early jump on it, because I think this was 2018. And so I was 28, Bowen was 27. And I remember feeling like, this feels right on target for when I'll get this. Like, I had been prepared. I had gone to just for laughs. I had, like, a new face. All this stuff. Can you checked all the boxes?
Kyle Mooney
You don't need to do this.
Matt Rogers
What?
Kyle Mooney
But can you tell us for an example what, like, a character would have been? You don't need to do it.
Matt Rogers
Sure. Yeah. So I remember. So my first screen test, I went in and I actually crushed. And I remember feeling like, had I. It was in March. And I remember feeling like, had I done it in August, like, I maybe would have gotten it. But I gave them all my best shit in March. One was I came in with, like, an American Idol number on me and, like, a cowboy hat. And I just literally, like, walked up on stage, like, as, like, a Southern person, real dude boss, like this. And then I sort of, like, sang, like, Whitney Houston and belted like, Mariah Carey, like, really high, like, stupid fun. And they were just like, that's great. And I remember that, like, I had them and then I did, like, a Channing Tatum who was really insecure. He just wanted you to love him for his acting.
Beck Bennett
That's great.
Matt Rogers
You just thought he was hot.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And then I did. I did, like, a James Bond villain who, like, could not order a drink at a bar.
Beck Bennett
Like.
Matt Rogers
Like, James Bond was just like, vodka martini, shaken mustard. And my James Bond villain was like, what do you guys have? That's great. But I, like, had. I had killed.
Kyle Mooney
And that was March. And then you had to do it. You had another one.
Matt Rogers
So they put me on hold. They put me Bowen, I believe Ms. Feynman on hold, and, like, four other people. And I remember they were really doing it because the buzz on the street was that they were trying to replace Kate. So it was 16 women and two men. And Bowen and I were the two men. And they kept us both on hold until, like, August when they did the other one. And it was so much to be in that situation with my best friend, of course.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Kind of knowing intrinsically, it would either be one of us or neither of us. And then I went in and I was just. I didn't have the sauce that day. Like, the je ne sais quoi was not there.
Beck Bennett
Like, did you have to come up with new stuff that. Yeah, yeah. I never had to do that. Kyle had to do that.
Matt Rogers
And they also said they were like, if you could try a little bit harder in the impressions lane, in the political impressions lane, which is not really my thing.
Kyle Mooney
Going into August, they were like, can you hit the.
Matt Rogers
Yes. I remember I put together, like, a Ben Shapiro. You know what I mean? I tried to be as current as possible, but it didn't feel like me. And I remember leaving being like, I should have just done me. I should have just done me. But again, goal oriented. SNL is my dream kid. I remember, like, feeling like I tried too hard to do the assignment and I should have been myself because that's what's gotten me where I needed to go every time. And it felt like I just got in my head and I knew it didn't happen.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And then I'll never forget, everyone went out for drinks afterwards and, like, Bowen got a phone call and the rest of us didn't. And that was that.
Beck Bennett
Oh, my God.
Matt Rogers
And like, that. And they didn't even put him on the cast. They put him on as a writer. Cause they felt that he. Yeah. I don't know, he needed more time or whatever. They wanted to get it right, which ultimately they did.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
But which is also, like, a great intro to the show. Talk about adrenaline. Like, I remember, like, the blood left my feet. I remember I was just like. I actually remember going up on stage the first time and being like, oh, my God, you're not breathing. Don't forget to breathe. And at 28, it's one thing, I think at 35, like, not that I would audition for the show now, but, like. But, like, it's such a different thing when you're young.
Beck Bennett
I think our body.
Matt Rogers
I don't know what else is going on because your body is going into, like. You know, it's like, in March, it decided that I was gonna crush, but in August, I just crashed. I think I was Too much. I had been holding up too much pent up shit.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I just could not perform. And maybe ultimately, ultimately, that meant I wasn't right for the show. Because I'll tell you, like, it's hard for me. Like, I'm adhd as hell anxious. Like, I have a lot of respect for you guys for going through that for as long as you guys did and doing as well as you guys did, because you guys are fucking icons.
Beck Bennett
Thank you so much. No, you guys are so sweet. I mean, I do. Thank you. I do think it's like, something about your chemistry at that time. Like, the chaos. It was not is like, can feed you. Like, it's like energizing a little bit. At this point in my life, I'm like, I need order and stability.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Well, can I. Okay. Because I feel we, at some point, we're gonna have to switch gears and.
Matt Rogers
Do the other podcast.
Kyle Mooney
Talk about what?
Beck Bennett
Hey, but I. I mean, here, go ahead. You go. You go. I was just gonna say, like, I was so excited to talk to you because on. Because of who you are, but also because I feel like you're one of the best conversationalists around. And I feel like I could go for another two hours, but you have to share.
Kyle Mooney
Well, with that being said, I feel like there's so much, so many things we've not been able to talk about. So may I. Yeah. May I propose a lightning round of questions here? Like, just go fast here. Okay.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Because I'm also.
Matt Rogers
Anytime you guys ever ask me to hang out, I'm gonna show up. Okay.
Beck Bennett
That is amazing.
Matt Rogers
I was thinking that the other day, I was just like, wow, this is rad. Like, I was like, I still. I still have to, like, pinch myself because I am such a fan. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's just like, it's crazy the way that things have turned out. Like, crazy.
Kyle Mooney
It goes. It goes both ways. So truly, thank you for those nice words. Okay, so, okay, first question. Nyu Hammer Cats, I feel like, is to me somewhat of an iconic sketch group. Right. Not an improv group.
Matt Rogers
Sketch group. So sketch group was Hammer Cats. And that was the one I was in. And that's got like, you know that.
Kyle Mooney
Documentary Derek comedy came out of that.
Matt Rogers
Derek, Ms. Bloom, Rachel Bloom. After me was Sudie, Jack Quaid, Stephanie Hsu from Everything Ever all at once was in Hammer Cats.
Kyle Mooney
So you going into college, was that something like, oh, I'm aware of this thing, or I've seen them perform or, like, I want to pursue comedy how did you get involved?
Matt Rogers
So this is what happened. So. And again, this speaks to again what it meant to me. So when I got to freshman year of college, I was really still closeted and from Long island, but it felt like I was a million miles away. But my freshman year R.A. as like, a weekend activity was like, we're going to go wait on the standby line at Saturday Night Live. So I remember we went and waited. Like, we got there at, like, 11am on Friday and waited all night until 7am on Saturday to hand out the tickets.
Kyle Mooney
Damn.
Matt Rogers
And I remember I was number 39, and I just so happened to grab the first ticket out of everyone on my floor that was waiting. And we went back later that night to see who was gonna get into the standby line. And they were like, it's gonna be the first 39 people. And I turn to all my friends and I go, I have to go. I was like, I know. I'm going. And I was like, I'm really sorry. Like, the cool thing would be for us all to not go, but I'm gonna go.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I went in, and it was James Franco, host, Kings of Leon, musical guest.
Beck Bennett
Amazing.
Matt Rogers
This was 2008. Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
I was gonna say.
Beck Bennett
Mid Octopus is.
Matt Rogers
On fire and use somebody.
Beck Bennett
I had to. Yeah. I. That. That was playing when I was going through a big breakup and I was waiting tables at Figaro Bistro. God, it was hard.
Matt Rogers
So, by the way, I'm sitting in the audience next to. And I can't believe no one around me is, like, recognizing her. Emma Stone. What? Who was there with her boyfriend at the time, Teddy Geiger. This is years ago.
Beck Bennett
Teddy Geiger.
Matt Rogers
So people were coming up to Teddy Geiger being like, can we take a picture of you? Emma is taking photos, like, but you're not supposed to do it. But, like. So they were, like, kind of not. So I'm sitting next to Emma Stone, who I knew from Superbad, and I'm like, oh, my God, that's the girl from Superbad. And we're both watching SNL for the. I would imagine, first time for her.
Kyle Mooney
You're in the stand. You're seated.
Matt Rogers
Oh, I'm in the back. Like, it's like, we're seated, but maybe I'm not next to her. I'm a couple rows behind her. So anyway. Next to her.
Beck Bennett
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Close summarily. Yes.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah, yeah.
Matt Rogers
So I am watching this, and it's just like, I feel this, like, energy. So I go back the next week, and it was Anne Hathaway and the Killers. And this was like an iconic episode. Like Seth Meyers, we had him on the podcast and he said it was the only episode that at the end, like, everyone gave a standing ovation in the audience. And the Killers did like an encore or whatever. It was the first time they did the Lawrence Welk show. Uh huh, Right. So Kristen did the tiny hands or whatever. And I was just like. I remember I went home. It was like, by the time I got home, it was like, you know, 2:00am and I sat on my bed and I was just like. I just like, was like crying. I was like, I feel like I. I don't know if I need to do that, but something like that. So I googled the person that I respected the most in the world, and that was Amy Poehler. And it said two things. That she had started an improv training center called UCB and that she had done improv at Boston College in her thing. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna sign up for a UCB class and I'm gonna try hard as fuck to get into one of the comedy groups. And I looked them up and then I went to a Hammer Cats show with a friend of mine named Mung. Sheer Mung. She was on my floor and her friend Bowen. And I remember meeting Bowen going to the sketch comedy show. And I remember looking on stage being like, who is that girl? And it was Rachel Bloom. And it was just like, that's crazy. Crazy, man. Like, and I was just like, I'm gonna get in this group. And then no acting experience, no wedding experience. The next year, I like, willed myself in and then, yeah, I was a part of the group and I ended up there.
Beck Bennett
That is incredible. I mean, like, did you, like, looking back on that, it's like, wow. I can feel the energy of that moment in the story.
Matt Rogers
I really do believe that.
Beck Bennett
I mean, you could feel it. You were like, you went home.
Matt Rogers
I was so emotional about it. I was like, I know that I'm supposed to be.
Beck Bennett
Had you done theater at that point?
Matt Rogers
Never.
Beck Bennett
Never. You were a jock and a prom king. Oh my God.
Matt Rogers
It was. I ran a 4:30. I remember punishing myself. Yeah, I was legit.
Beck Bennett
That's wild.
Kyle Mooney
I. Yeah, go ahead.
Beck Bennett
No, no, I was just gonna relate. I had a similar thing and it was like in seventh grade, watching a show, I was like, I just started, like, crying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I want to do that.
Matt Rogers
It had happened to me before. Like, I was in. I was like 10 years old. My mom took me to Go see Hairspray.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And, like, there was, like, belted harmony. And I like tears. And my mom was like, why are you crying? I was like, because I'm happy. I was like, I'm moved. It's resonating with my soul, how loud they're expressing themselves that I'm, like, identifying with. And so, like, all of that, like, you know, when you're manifesting it all in such a way and it's, like, happening. Like, I'll never forget, like, when I crushed that first screen test. I got home to my shit box in Greenpoint. I had, like, a truly, like, 400 square foot, like, $800 a month. Like, little tiny, like, you know, Polish basement in Greenpoint. I looked myself in the mirror and I was like, you're gonna do it. You're gonna do it. I was like, you're gonna fucking do it.
Beck Bennett
And you did, but you did something else. You done so many other things, but.
Matt Rogers
You literally so, so took the right path.
Kyle Mooney
But I want to say, too, and, like, this is maybe corny or trite or cliche or something, but, like, isn't it so wild? And that. That was the chance meeting where you met your crew, one of your creative partners, right? And that. That's lasted as long as it's.
Beck Bennett
Ha.
Matt Rogers
It has.
Kyle Mooney
And like, now we're about to see the Culture Awards broadcast on television. And I gotta say, like. Like, how do these things happen? Because, you know, I ended up going to USC and Beck, separately from Illinois and going. Going to usc. And we both. We met each other in the workshop for the improv group. And here we are sitting here today after have worked, working together for however many 15 years or whatever, 20 years it is, that happenstance. There's nothing you can really say about it, but it is so surreal and wild that, like, it's crazy.
Matt Rogers
And I mean, Rachel presented at the show. I'll never forget. Like, there was something. Rachel is. Rachel Bloom is like this, like, bellwether for me. It's like. Or that's not the word. But, like, I remember. I'll never forget watching her on stage at Hammer Cats, and I was like, that girl's so funny. Like, she's great. And then years later, Bowen and I were at his apartment and she was nominated for a Golden Globe for Crazy Ex Girlfriend. She had popped off because she put this music video out on YouTube called Fuck Me, Ray Bradford.
Beck Bennett
Yes, I remember that.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah. And suddenly she, like. She had, like, won the Internet with that. And then she got this show and then she won A Golden Globe for the show. And Bowen and I were screaming, and I was like. I turned to Bowen and I was like, is this real? Like, are the people that we thought were special really? Are they really, like, is this a thing?
Beck Bennett
Yeah. And that. And that's also, like, a very positive way to react to that, which is so sweet, because you could be like, I should be up there. You could be jealous. But, like, wow, I'm a part of something. I'm tapped into something really cool.
Matt Rogers
To be honest with you. It was never. It was never jealousy for me. Maybe it was a little envy, but it was never because, like, my best friends were getting to do SNL and I wasn't. It was that I wasn't. I wasn't a part of it with them. It wasn't them doing it and not me. It's. We're not doing it together.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. And I keep contributing and. And, yeah.
Matt Rogers
I remember thinking, like, I wonder what. I remember I would watch, like, the sketches that they would make and, like, when they would get on, and, you know, I would just remember sitting at home and watching it. Like, I remember being like, I wonder what funny thing happened when they were creating that. You know what I mean? Like, I wonder, like, how easy it was for them to make that up. Like, yeah. I remember, like, knowing that there are.
Kyle Mooney
So many other moments. You're seeing this one moment on tv, but there are all these moments leading up to it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
It's like trying stuff and making each other laugh and be like, yeah, yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I was like, they're having that experience without me. And that was what I was envious of. Not that, you know, they were succeeding or getting the money or they were like, whatever. It was more that I wasn't a part of the experience with them.
Kyle Mooney
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Because at that point, I had come to value community so much, and I had come to value them so much, and it just felt like. I remember feeling like. I was like, is the universe, like, picking on me by having me want this so bad and then giving it to the closest people around me? Like, it felt, like, targeted in a way.
Kyle Mooney
Sure.
Matt Rogers
But then I was like, then I remember SNL 50. I get a call that it's come from Lorne that he wants me to host the carpet.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I was just like. My trauma was, like, reignited. I was like, it's a trick.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
I was like, it doesn't. I was like, there's no way.
Kyle Mooney
Well, to continue with the lightning round here.
Matt Rogers
I promise you, I am capable of.
Kyle Mooney
A lightning round hey, this is favorite Christmas song.
Matt Rogers
Oh, shit.
Kyle Mooney
I guess I love your Christmas special, by the way.
Matt Rogers
You do?
Kyle Mooney
That means you also love of traditional, like, Christmas generally. Is that accurate?
Matt Rogers
I can't believe you guys watched it. That's amazing. Yeah, I love Christmas music. Like, well, Mariah Carey was, like, my number one. Like, I always, like, grew up. Like, she was like, people are. It's so funny because people are like, who is your comedic inspiration? And I'm like, mariah. Because how funny it is, her whole thing. Like, I just think she's so funny. And, like, I. I'll never forget. Like, I was watching an interview with her around Christmas, and the interviewer was just like, flat out, like, so you really hacked the mainframe, huh? Like, you just make money every year. And Mariah was like, period. Like, yeah, that's what it is. And I was like, that is so funny to me. Talking about the commercialization again, like, the brand.
Beck Bennett
Yes. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
So I put a show up at the duplex, which was Matt Rogers, have youe Heard of Christmas and the Whole Bit.
Beck Bennett
It's such a good title.
Matt Rogers
Thank you. The whole bit was like, this is my Christmas album. And the bit was that it didn't exist, but I actually did write songs and worked on my singing. And my boyfriend at the time, Henry Kapersky, was a virtuosic piano player. And, like, I was just, you know, living with someone that I could create with.
Beck Bennett
That's great.
Matt Rogers
So we went and did this, and then it grew every year to the point where I actually did put out an album.
Beck Bennett
An album.
Matt Rogers
But my favorite Christmas song is probably All I Want for Christmas is you.
Kyle Mooney
Classic.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
And I, you know, I just want to put this out there right now. There's a chance that I might write a Christmas song sometime in the future. And I just. I just want us to be cool.
Matt Rogers
It's fine.
Kyle Mooney
Oh, I've got. I already. I got one on my. I got two on my phone right now.
Matt Rogers
Okay, listen, can I say the space is. There's room.
Beck Bennett
There's room. We can all make music. There's so much room for music.
Matt Rogers
So I called myself the Prince of Christmas. I've done that for years. And last year, Jimmy Fallon started saying he was the king of Christmas in.
Beck Bennett
A direct, like, competition.
Matt Rogers
I don't think he knew I existed until, like, last year.
Beck Bennett
Sure.
Matt Rogers
But, like. But even that, like, he came up on the SNL50 carpet and was like, matt, what's up, man?
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Doing this whole thing. And I'm like, oh, my God, it's like. But yeah. He's the king of Christmas.
Beck Bennett
He's the king of Christmas.
Matt Rogers
All right, well, so you guys can be, like, in the court.
Kyle Mooney
Oh, I don't need to. I'm down to just be one of the.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Beck Bennett
I love one of the jesters.
Kyle Mooney
Pieces of sh.
Beck Bennett
One of the pieces of shit, Kyle. The biggest piece of shit of Christmas.
Kyle Mooney
Or whatever.
Beck Bennett
It's a royal idea, brother.
Kyle Mooney
Or if it's a fun kid who opens presents. I don't know. Whatever it is.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. Okay.
Matt Rogers
I think that's a great Christmas brand for you.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. Piece of shit.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. I think you singing a Christmas song about and opening gifts and all the mess that happens.
Kyle Mooney
Oh, yes.
Beck Bennett
Actually. Oh, yes.
Kyle Mooney
No, the song. One of the songs I've written. It does talk a little bit about sort of the Christmas garbage. The wrapping paper that adorns.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. There's so. There's so many things about Christmas. Like, it's kind of like. It's kind of like one of those worlds where it's like, you'll never run out of comedic.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah, well, it's also like. And everybody. Everybody wants to revisit it every year. You know what I mean?
Matt Rogers
That's the thing. It's not going anywhere.
Beck Bennett
And it's also kind of always changing. Like, Christmas now. And, like, it means something to have.
Kyle Mooney
Santa's got all the gadgets. Like, back in the day, it was actually pure magic.
Matt Rogers
Now he's like Elon Musk.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah, exactly.
Matt Rogers
Once you start asking questions about Santa, that's when you get your. Your sketches and your songs, because there's so many. Like, my whole thing was, how does he fit all the gifts in the bag?
Kyle Mooney
Yes.
Matt Rogers
And my answer to that was, he lubes up the gifts. So why does Santa have all the lube?
Kyle Mooney
Yes.
Matt Rogers
That's a song.
Beck Bennett
That's a song.
Matt Rogers
I've been singing it since 2017.
Beck Bennett
Period. That's it.
Kyle Mooney
And we Stan it.
Matt Rogers
I love it. I love that Stan is kind of Santa, but mixing around.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Okay.
Matt Rogers
You ever think about that one?
Beck Bennett
We Stan Santa.
Matt Rogers
They didn't think about that. Behind the keys over there.
Kyle Mooney
I guess. This is my last lightning round question.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Kyle Mooney
You know, we're working on this podcast where, like, the premise is essentially that we don't really know what our podcast should be, and we don't even know if we're good at. We're kind of learning as we go along. And can I say, you guys are great.
Beck Bennett
Really? Yeah.
Matt Rogers
You know, I don't talk about this stuff.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. You know what?
Matt Rogers
I Mean, I feel self conscious talking about this stuff, but with you guys, I feel very comfortable.
Beck Bennett
I think it's so huge, so beautiful.
Kyle Mooney
That you are willing to be open with us and. And. And it really endears you to me and I'm sure our entire audience, so thank you for. For being open. Okay. Well, with that being said.
Beck Bennett
All of it. Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
What do you think our podcast should be about, Matt?
Matt Rogers
Yeah. What do I think your podcast should be about globally? Or what do I think it should be about in the terms of the adrenaline?
Beck Bennett
This is the first question I'm gonna say.
Kyle Mooney
I mean, I actually. I need help understanding how to answer that question.
Matt Rogers
So basically, it's like my understanding of the podcast based on an email that I was sent.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I was so excited to get said email.
Kyle Mooney
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Was. Y' all are gonna have me pick a topic. Yes. And then we're gonna discuss that topic here and decide how other podcast relates to said topic. And we go in there, and I actually was, like, a little anxious because I was like, are we playing characters? Because I don't know if I have, like, my character shoes on today. Right.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And then they were like, nah, it's. It's you guys, whatever.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
So maybe the podcast relates to adrenaline.
Kyle Mooney
Okay.
Matt Rogers
But it's like, we talk about a time that our adrenaline was highest. Cause I could have. I could tell a story about that, like, a physical extreme that I put myself through. Do you guys know a time you put yourself through, like, a physical extreme with adrenaline?
Beck Bennett
I think so. Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah, I'm sure I could figure it out. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
What?
Kyle Mooney
I'm. How. How does. Yeah, how do I know it's adrenaline?
Matt Rogers
When you feel you could lift a car.
Kyle Mooney
Okay.
Matt Rogers
It's like the kind of thing where it's like, oh, I got it. I got it. Okay. I have. I mean, I have mine. It's formative. So we. The podcast could be. We share our. It's a high.
Kyle Mooney
It's adrenaline.
Matt Rogers
It's called Adrenaline.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah. Okay. We're gonna be right back with an episode of Adrenaline. Yes.
Matt Rogers
Yo, I got that hat that has. It's like a black trucker hat with the. With the dog on it. It says bad boy, and I almost wore it today, but I thought, I don't want to be patronizing to the straight guys. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to do that. I wear it all the time to the airport.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, that's important.
Matt Rogers
My airport.
Kyle Mooney
I don't see that as patronizing.
Matt Rogers
I know. I just want you guys to I want you guys to know that I'm comfortable in my skin. Like, I didn't want to show up. Like, oh, look at him here, coming with the B boy hat.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, here he comes with the bad boy hat. Kyle.
Matt Rogers
I couldn't be a good. I couldn't be a better boy, by the way.
Kyle Mooney
Let's.
Beck Bennett
Let's explore with the bad. I'm actually a good boy. I'm actually. I'm not. I'm actually a good boy.
Matt Rogers
When someone. When someone. If, like, when anyone, like, says, I like your hat, I always go, false advertising. I'm really a sweet guy.
Beck Bennett
Anyways, that's amazing.
Kyle Mooney
I hope you really do shake like that every time.
Matt Rogers
I hope I do too, to be honest, like, really scare people away. Because if that's what I'm trying to do, then, like, really what you have to do is just have a little seizure. And then when the bad boy hat.
Beck Bennett
Combined with that, and they're like, they're running, they're running.
Matt Rogers
They're out of here.
Beck Bennett
They're running faster than they've ever ran.
Kyle Mooney
What's up, everybody? Kyle Mooney.
Matt Rogers
Here.
Beck Bennett
Beck Bennett. Over here.
Matt Rogers
Beck.
Kyle Mooney
How you been, buddy?
Beck Bennett
Doing great. Been awesome.
Kyle Mooney
Dude, that is that. Now, would you call this. Is this green?
Beck Bennett
Yeah, this is green. Just like the chair. And this is kind of an off green.
Kyle Mooney
So, yeah, sort of like you almost looks like you got fatigues on.
Beck Bennett
Hilarious. No, no, no, no. This is not fatigues. This is.
Kyle Mooney
Or maybe like a Fidel Castro style.
Beck Bennett
Oh, he was a big, important guy. Of course.
Kyle Mooney
You listen to adrenaline. Yeah.
Beck Bennett
Adrenaline. Oh, that's what it's all about.
Kyle Mooney
Adrenaline.
Beck Bennett
Adrenaline podcast. That's what we talk about with Beck and Kyle.
Kyle Mooney
Yes, yes, yes.
Beck Bennett
All things adrenaline. Kyle.
Matt Rogers
Hi, guys.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, there we go.
Kyle Mooney
I've had an adrenalicious week. How about yourself?
Beck Bennett
Yeah, mine. Mine has been packed with adrenaline. I'm absolutely pumped.
Kyle Mooney
We got a great. A wonderful guest here. The. He's the pop prince of Christmas. He's Hammer Cat alum.
Matt Rogers
Hell, yeah.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. Hammer Cat alum. Yeah. Creator of Plug It Las Culturistas.
Matt Rogers
Plug It Culture Awards.
Beck Bennett
The Culture Awards.
Matt Rogers
Thank you. Why I'm here.
Beck Bennett
Which is why he's here.
Kyle Mooney
Let's give it up, please, for Matt Roger.
Beck Bennett
Three words.
Matt Rogers
Remember that one?
Beck Bennett
Yeah, we're bringing that back. That's perfect for the adrenaline podcast.
Matt Rogers
Was telling the guys off mic, I have a hat that says bad boy on it and I almost wore it. I think it actually would have of gone well with the theme.
Kyle Mooney
And you said it's got A dog.
Matt Rogers
It's got a really scary looking dog.
Beck Bennett
And as we all know, dogs are filled with adrenaline. There was a. I don't think they ever lose it.
Kyle Mooney
And have you heard of Bad Boy Club? That was a clothing line in the 80s and 90s.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah. They had.
Kyle Mooney
It had like a strong guy.
Matt Rogers
Yes, yes. Bad Boys. The movie franchise. Total, total tens of films.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Really good.
Beck Bennett
I love the first one. Just like.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. And that. The whole two hours, which is what I love. High octane, guys shooting, dude explosions.
Kyle Mooney
Welcome to Adrenaline. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
What's the most violent movie?
Beck Bennett
You guys love the most violent movie? I love. Love. Let's see. There's gotta be one.
Kyle Mooney
I know.
Matt Rogers
I'm thinking, does violence appeal to you in movies?
Beck Bennett
Yeah, but.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
No, I'm not like, looking for violence. Are you looking for violence?
Matt Rogers
Oh, absolutely not.
Beck Bennett
No, absolutely not.
Matt Rogers
I'll get upset.
Kyle Mooney
Squeamish, actually.
Matt Rogers
Like, whenever I watch a horror movie and like, one of the girls d. I'm like someone's daughter and I'm depressed for like, weeks after the fictional person is like, you know, killed in the film. So I can't.
Beck Bennett
I don't like the.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
I don't like the physical things they do to the body.
Matt Rogers
No.
Beck Bennett
Ripping it apart and sneezing it, slicing it. I don't like the gore. Unless it's like a little campy.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Beck Bennett
Like.
Matt Rogers
Like Saw.
Beck Bennett
Well, see, is that. I guess. No, I don't like Saw. Saw was the first thing where I was like, I don't like this. I don't want this. But I like things like.
Kyle Mooney
Like.
Beck Bennett
Like Cabin in the woods or Drag Me to Hell, you know, where it's like a little.
Kyle Mooney
It's.
Beck Bennett
It's like not goofy vibes. A little goofy vibes.
Matt Rogers
I used to watch True Blood.
Beck Bennett
I love True Blood.
Matt Rogers
True Blood was great. And it was so. It was just like in mid sentence, a woman would just be like, cut in half by Alexander Skarsgard. And you just be like, whoa. But it was so goof. Aloof.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
That you were like, okay, she's not real. But when violence is so real, I'm like, why are we doing this?
Beck Bennett
Yeah. The sex scenes in that show. Show. They take the V. Yeah. And go nuts on each other.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Yeah, they do. They do. Have you seen the show, Kyle?
Beck Bennett
Come on. You know, we used to watch it when we lived.
Matt Rogers
That's your podcast, True Blood. Re Watch.
Beck Bennett
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Oh, that was someone that has seen it and someone that hasn't. That's a great.
Kyle Mooney
Listening to Adrenaline, but, yeah.
Matt Rogers
We know what our adrenaline. That could be.
Kyle Mooney
That was an error there. I. I'm. I'm not. Not. I'm not good at consuming zeitgeisty media, if that makes any sense. So, like, I remember, yeah, folks would come over to our house to watch True Blood.
Beck Bennett
I was.
Kyle Mooney
And I was just always like, if I'd find something else to do. And the same thing happened. I remember with Game of Thrones, and I remember, like, being upstairs.
Matt Rogers
I could not watch Game of Thrones.
Kyle Mooney
I was like, 15. People are like, yeah, I remember that. That Red Wedding episode, like, too much for me. The whole downstairs go. And I'm just like, I guess something must have gone down.
Matt Rogers
See, that's what sucks about being so cute. That's what sucks about being one of the lost culturistas is you have to, like, consume all sorts of media, and I can't do it. Like, I. I saw the Red Wedding because I was like, well, I guess I got to watch the Red Wedding because it's a social requirement. Yeah, but. And I watched, like, the finale of Game of Thrones, but, like, in terms of, like, high adrenaline, like, content, I physically am in pain. If there's, like, a jump scare, I'm like, oof. Like, I literally. I lose my faculties. Yeah. I can go through a haunted house. Like, I love, like, all that. We just talked about doing a scary ride in Universal Studios epic universe. All that haunted houses, though.
Kyle Mooney
I get scared in a haunted, but.
Matt Rogers
I'm very spry, so I can just. I feel like I can run away.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, but even though you're not supposed to. You're supposed to stay right there.
Matt Rogers
You're not supposed to be as physical as I am in haunted houses. Actually, me, Bowen, and Sudi went to one in. In Pennsylvania, Woodlock Pines.
Beck Bennett
That sounds scary. The middle of nowhere, you know, we'll talk about.
Kyle Mooney
No, no, but I. There's something I want to say, and I don't want to forget what it is.
Matt Rogers
Don't say it now.
Kyle Mooney
Okay.
Matt Rogers
Because nothing I'm gonna say is that good.
Kyle Mooney
Okay. I'm just having this thought. The. The. Because the haunted house, now, this is peak adrenaline.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, but.
Kyle Mooney
But they do scare me. And, like, the idea of. I'm mostly scared of things popping right. Popping up right in front of me.
Matt Rogers
And this place. These places are made.
Kyle Mooney
I have. I have an experiment here. And forgive me me, but for those of you who are watching, this will make sense. But for those of you listening, we're gonna have to describe it.
Matt Rogers
This.
Kyle Mooney
I'm just thinking that, like, rather than having a setting in a haunted house. And I'm not. I'm not gonna do it to Matt. I'll do it to back. Because I feel like. Oh, I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to scare you fully.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
But, no, I don't know that we need a setting.
Matt Rogers
I really am.
Beck Bennett
Don't show. Don't show me this again, Kyle. You know, it's gonna scare me.
Kyle Mooney
Like, we. I don't know that we need the setting of, like, you know, like, a house that's in, like, the deep woods or something like that. If somebody's just gonna pop out at you. Because, like, here we are in this room. It's a podcast studio.
Beck Bennett
I mean, that was a lot. It wasn't scary.
Matt Rogers
I know literally now that. Because now you know what's gonna happen. You don't need expectation for a scare.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And it has to happen.
Beck Bennett
It h. It.
Matt Rogers
That's what's crazy.
Kyle Mooney
You dealt with it well, though.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, it was. It was unsettling. It definitely. My adrenaline went up. I wanted to. I wanted to fight you. I wanted to. There was a party. There's a really small part.
Matt Rogers
There was like, wait, so is that your fear response? Is it fight, flight, or freeze?
Beck Bennett
I mean, I do them all at different points. Do you? I do.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. I. I can. I can. I can fight. I never fight, but I actually never really have fought. I've never been in a real fight.
Kyle Mooney
I've got my.
Beck Bennett
I've trained for a jumping case. Yeah. With my own child. With my own child. I will freeze because of the chaos. And I'm just like.
Matt Rogers
It's just like, whoa.
Beck Bennett
I don't know.
Matt Rogers
You've become autonomous.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. Who's got.
Kyle Mooney
I've got my adrenaline story ready to go.
Matt Rogers
I mean, I do, too.
Beck Bennett
I want to. I want to hear from our guest first. So as we ask all the time.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
What is your.
Matt Rogers
The culture that made you say culture was.
Beck Bennett
What's your adrenaline that made you say adrenaline is for you.
Matt Rogers
Okay. This actually. Actually is this answer. So. Because actually, I used to identify as, like, a daredevil when I was a kid. I was like, I'll go on any roller coaster. I actually had the dream. I had the dream of doing every roller coaster in the United States. Like, I. I used to get books about them and stuff. So clearly, like, when you're this type of kid, certainly one day you'll go skydiving. And so it came to be that we were 18 years old me and my friends. Me and my, like, guy friends and, like, two of the girls that wanted to go skydiving for. As a graduation gift to ourselves. We're all gonna go. Yeah, we were all gonna go skydiving. We're 18, and that's how old you need to be.
Beck Bennett
Right.
Matt Rogers
So we go out to Calverton and skydiving.
Kyle Mooney
You're. You're. You're partnered with somebody, right?
Matt Rogers
Yes. You have to fly tandem the first, I believe, three or four times or something like that. Like, there's a number of times you have to have someone on your back.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Before you can, like, be trusted to do it yourself, which I don't even know how. You do it enough times to prepare to pull the string. Like, it feels like just having done it a bunch, it feels like there.
Beck Bennett
Should be other tests or something to make sure that you're able to pull it under the string.
Matt Rogers
Correct. So you get there. It's like me and the five of my friends, and they just give you, like, I don't know, a six pound, like, stack of papers to sign. Like, truly. Just like. And you read the fine print. It's like, in the event of my injury or death, I completely succumb. Like, no one in my family can sue. Like, et cetera. You give away your life to this experience. So I sign it because that's what we're doing.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And that's when, like, they say, okay, now you're gonna meet the person that you're gonna tandem jump with. So these characters come over.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
I don't remember the name of mine, but I do remember what I. What I think his name is. And I can only describe this guy. Guy as a Trask. I believe his name was Trask. It wasn't, but it was. He had shaved head. But the. The. The spikes. The.
Beck Bennett
So the. The whatchamacallit.
Matt Rogers
What do you call it?
Beck Bennett
Like, Mohawk spikes? Like jumping out of a plane like that.
Kyle Mooney
What are we talking about? There's, like, a bad guy from the Ninja Turtles.
Matt Rogers
Bad boy vibes. Literally, like, very Ninja Turtles villain. He's the one that's paired with me, and I'm like, okay, so he's, like, ready to fucking rock. And, like, I'm just like, holy fuck. Like, I'm like, trash. Trask. Trask. T, R A, S, K. Not his name, but, like, this is. This is what he is to me.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
So I go, so how many times do you do this? He goes, sixteen times a day.
Kyle Mooney
Damn.
Matt Rogers
Which to me means his brain is like scrambled eggs. Yeah, sure. So we're all getting partnered with our person, and, like, you're putting the harness on, and, like, you're getting. You know, you get. You get attached to the back, and then you go up in, like, a tiny plane. And that's when I realized, like, I don't even like flying. Like, at this point. Like, I don't. Why am I doing this? And every part of me is saying, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. My parents came to watch because I guess they were the only parents that came. I guess they were like, I mean, if our kid's gonna die, let's watch it happen. You know what I mean? Like, be there. So I guess I'm grateful. So then they go up in the. They go up. We go up in the plane. And the way that you are, like, like, released from the plane is you sit. Have either of you done this?
Beck Bennett
I have.
Matt Rogers
You sit on the side of the window. You sit. You sit. They open the door, and you sit with your legs dangling. Dangle 13,000ft.
Kyle Mooney
So you go, when did you do it?
Beck Bennett
I remember Chris Lowell. It was like, my junior year, going into my senior year of college. I had just gotten back.
Matt Rogers
Chris Lowell, like a actor fan.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Were you friends with Brian and Nick?
Beck Bennett
I. Well, I was freshman year roommates with Chris Lowell.
Matt Rogers
Oh, that's so.
Beck Bennett
And then he was friends with those guys. Oh, I lost the thing. We lost the head gumbo.
Kyle Mooney
It's that time again.
Matt Rogers
The box fell.
Beck Bennett
The box fell.
Matt Rogers
This is a headgun podcast.
Beck Bennett
But, yeah, he was. He was my freshman year roommate. I got to know them through Chris.
Matt Rogers
So you guys went together.
Beck Bennett
Yes. Yeah. He was like, we're going skydiving. That's like, okay.
Kyle Mooney
I'm just trying. I just wanted to.
Matt Rogers
There's no interrupting in podcasting. It's roll culture number.
Beck Bennett
Yes.
Kyle Mooney
Thought.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Know that. And if anyone tells you you're interrupting. No, that's just your conversation style. That's okay.
Beck Bennett
That's what I like to tell my wife.
Matt Rogers
Well, Beck.
Beck Bennett
What is that? Does it not apply?
Kyle Mooney
Dude.
Matt Rogers
Yo, dude.
Beck Bennett
My adrenaline.
Matt Rogers
So anyway, I'll let that dude bring back to the energy of the story.
Beck Bennett
Yes.
Matt Rogers
So you go 1, 2, 3. And you're supposed to. You do a front flip and then release your limbs so that you, like. You essentially, like, you're supposed to, like, literally do what Tom Cruise does in movies, like, on your one and only time, trying this.
Beck Bennett
The rollout is so uncomfortable.
Matt Rogers
So by the way, you see your.
Beck Bennett
Friend, if you're if you're not first.
Matt Rogers
No, I was like other people.
Kyle Mooney
One would assume you just stand up and walk off. That would be my assumption.
Matt Rogers
No, you sit.
Beck Bennett
You'll go right into the propeller. That way.
Matt Rogers
You sit, and the person's behind you. And I guess. I guess it's scarier for them, right? But they've done it 16 times a day. So you're. You're going like this. This front flip. They're going, huh, huh. Back flip, which is crazy. Psycho.
Beck Bennett
Oh, God.
Matt Rogers
So then I. I do it.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I absolutely flop flipping. Like it's not okay. Like. And I'm like. And by the way, I have it all on videotape. I have to find it. But I paid, like, 100. And by the way, I don't know. The video is so funny because it's like this soundtrack to it is like. It's like, very sum 41. But not. Because obviously they couldn't.
Beck Bennett
It.
Matt Rogers
It was like, we're all on the edge. It's like that. The words had to be that.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And so, like, you see me in the video just, like, start to enjoy it, right? It kind of feels like the first. Because it's like a minute and a half of freefall.
Kyle Mooney
You.
Matt Rogers
You free fall for, like, 10,000ft, and then they pull the thing, and you float down for 3,000ft. So you kind of start to enjoy the feeling of the freefall, because I can liken it to. You know, it's like kind of sticking your head out the car window on, like, a freeway and that you can feel the. Your arm. It's kind of what your. Feels like on your whole body once the initial zero G sensation stops.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. But then they pull it.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And what they don't tell you is once it's pulled, you float down for, like, 15 minutes.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. You're floating for a long time.
Matt Rogers
And that is when I started to dry heave vomit into my own shirt.
Beck Bennett
Oh, my God.
Matt Rogers
With this guy Trask on my back. And I'm like, like, kind of like little death vibes. Like, just like. You're just, like, literally not there. Because my body. I think the adrenaline had caught up. And I decided also not to eat that day because I was, like, nervous.
Beck Bennett
So I'm just like, what's a good thing?
Matt Rogers
Dry heaving, Spitting into my own shirt, like, on myself. And you just hear Trasp being like, you okay, dude? You okay, dude? They're not. They're not getting this part on video because at that point, we floated away from the guy who has jumped out of the plane as well to film it.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Which is crazy. So we're floating down for so long and I never stop. Like, my body never stops, like, trying to expel whatever it is. And he's just like, okay. Yep. Like, you can. You know, he's so upset.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And we finally land and the camera does catch me landing and like, it's just like a horrible, like, land. My body just limp and lands on the ground, like. And then like the. The camera guy, like, runs over. He's like, all right, man, we're going to see you back. And you just see me go, like, give the peace sign. And my face is like, not there. You can see like it was like spittle on my chest and stuff. And the trask is kind of like looking over his shoulder, like. But like, it just freeze frames.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
So now it's like I have it caught on film. The minute I stopped being a person who likes any of it, it. I'm afraid of heights now. Wow. I get vertigo, like, as a result of that experience. I like, now it's like, it sucks. Cuz, like, one of the things I loved the most was like, the more intense roller coasters. And I'll still do them, but like, as you get older and like, the fear of death creeps in. Like, I was like, there's no way I'm ever doing that again.
Beck Bennett
And it doesn't stick with. It's not like a thing. You're like, that's still with me today. Like, I'm so glad I did it.
Matt Rogers
No, it's like, it's like, I guess I'm glad I can say I did it on days like today on Adrenaline, the podcast. And I'm so happy you guys. They're having me, so.
Kyle Mooney
Are you kidding me? Like, we've been. We've been a big fan.
Matt Rogers
We.
Kyle Mooney
We kind of. We.
Matt Rogers
We.
Kyle Mooney
We actually would really like you to be a part of the Adrenaline brand. We actually have some pitches for you later, but.
Beck Bennett
Sick. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, that's great. I'd love to hear the pitches.
Beck Bennett
Amazing.
Matt Rogers
I have to leave right away.
Beck Bennett
Oh, okay.
Matt Rogers
So I can't hear the pictures today.
Beck Bennett
Okay. We'll just put them in an email.
Matt Rogers
I have something else.
Beck Bennett
We were. We were really looking forward to pitching you some of our.
Matt Rogers
And just make sure they come across on the email.
Beck Bennett
Oh, yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Beck Bennett
Let me do a little.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, Just make sure it's punchy.
Beck Bennett
Okay.
Kyle Mooney
Maybe somebody. Maybe if a love. Maybe if a person, a loved one was like, it would be very meaningful. To me, if you'd jumped with.
Matt Rogers
See, I guess that's the thing is it's like, if it would be. But then that would be so manipulative. Because here I'm not shy about this story. Like, I tell everyone, I'm like, don't do it, don't do it. And also it's like, do we know anyone now do you guys know anyone now that does that or has done that recently?
Beck Bennett
I feel like it's like that's again, something you do in your 20s or routine. Like that age when you're like, yeah.
Matt Rogers
Oh, no. It was such an 18 year old, peer pressured, closeted Matt Rogers decision. Like, absolutely. Yeah, totally, totally, totally.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, yeah, I'll do it. I can do it.
Matt Rogers
No way.
Kyle Mooney
Okay.
Beck Bennett
Not necessary.
Kyle Mooney
My address story. And I'm gonna ask you guys if this is adrenaline that we're referring to. But first I'll say when we would do snl. This is not, not the actual story. So forgive me, but just to sort of make sure that I'm defining what I know to be my adrenaline correctly, I would really struggle after shows. Like, I would be up until coming down five or six in the morning. Just like, it's just because of that, like all of the anticipation of like, tonight we're gonna do Dr. Madman. Oh, fuck. Oh. And I'd be like, you know, like Dr. Madman rereading my Dr. Madman line over and over again. Then he's mad, he's mad, he's mad. You know, and like, just like prepping for that moment that, you know.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
One time you say it in front of however many people and then like, and then the, the moments afterwards of like, if it scored, like. Yeah, yeah.
Matt Rogers
It was fun.
Kyle Mooney
It was crazy.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
You know what I mean? And then like going to a party and then like being home and like.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Trying to prepare to just like go to bed was super difficult.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
But I, I, I'm labeling this adrenaline, this story I'm about to tell. You guys could tell me if it's something else.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Beck Bennett
Okay.
Kyle Mooney
I was at, I was in college, probably a junior or senior in college. There was a pizza place called Numero Uno Pizza. And I was really good with. It was good.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. Pretty solid.
Kyle Mooney
I was with my girlfriend at the time, maybe a couple other friends, and we ordered a pizza and we waited for a while.
Beck Bennett
That's amazing.
Kyle Mooney
We were waiting for a long time.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
What's a long time? Even if you can't pinpoint it exactly.
Kyle Mooney
Let'S say from ordering the moment where it Felt long. Somewhere between 15 and 20 minutes.
Matt Rogers
Okay. For a pizza. That's crazy. That's a while I would be anxious.
Kyle Mooney
And so I started. And so maybe this anxiety we're going to label that you guys are going to help diagnose us what this was. So I started, like, sort of, like, freaking out because, like, I, I, you.
Matt Rogers
Know, I was like.
Kyle Mooney
Because it's like my. I don't know, maybe I was treating or maybe I just, like, wanted to show everybody good time. But I felt some responsibility for this. Right. And then I finally, like, look over to that. The little, like, door, the little, like, window into the kitchen where you can see where stuff is thrown and there's the pizza just sitting there.
Matt Rogers
Oh, I hate this when the food is right there and no one's.
Kyle Mooney
The pizza's just been sitting there. And, like, so now I'm like, okay, well, now I can see that our pizza is ready. Has been ready.
Matt Rogers
Yep.
Kyle Mooney
I don't even know how long it's been there from the time that I noticed it. And I'm looking for somebody to talk to, to, to talk about this issue. And I'm not one to ever be like, I, I, I. If I go to a restaurant, I'm not going to do. I. I'm very rarely will be like, oh, you know, actually, I asked for this. Or like, like, I'm not. I don't love that type of confrontation.
Matt Rogers
Was it because you. Were you ever in restaurant service?
Kyle Mooney
No.
Matt Rogers
See, that's why I don't do it, is because I'm like, I know what it's like to be them, and it's not their fault, and I don't want to inconvenience the server. It's like, I'll take what you give me.
Kyle Mooney
I think, I think it's just me not being confrontational or something like that. I don't, I don't know what it is, but, like, I, for some reason, I'll just be like, yeah, I'd rather just deal with whatever. I'd rather just take whatever I'm given than have to have a conversation.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. But this time, any, this time I.
Kyle Mooney
Was getting worked up and, like, I could just feel my body, like, Like, I'm gonna have to say something about this pizza. I'm gonna have to say something about this pizza. And like, my girl, my girlfriend's there and, like, I gotta make sure everybody's taken care of. I'm gonna have to say something about the pizza.
Matt Rogers
Yep.
Kyle Mooney
And then I finally, I finally see that's title by the way, I finally see our person. Our weight or our weight person approach. And I'm like. I am, like, truthy.
Matt Rogers
Like, yeah, you're amped. This is adrenaline.
Kyle Mooney
And she's getting closer and closer. I'm like, I need to talk to you. We ordered our pizza. Oh, it had to be at least. It had to be over 15 or 20 minutes ago. And we've been waiting. And she's like, oh, yeah, I'm sure it'll be out soon. I'm like, no, I believe it's actually right over there. And, yeah, that's just not right.
Matt Rogers
You just can't.
Kyle Mooney
Like, you've got to know when the pizzas are ready, and you got to have them ready to give to people. She's like, I'm so sorry. I'll go grab it right now. I was like, no, it's gotta be more than that. You're gonna have to give us some sort of deal.
Beck Bennett
Some sort of deal.
Matt Rogers
Flight, fright, freeze or, like, frame.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
And, you know, I mean, I feel like I probably got, you know, $5 probably.
Beck Bennett
You must have.
Kyle Mooney
Is that adrenaline?
Matt Rogers
I think it is.
Beck Bennett
That's adrenaline.
Matt Rogers
I think you're. Because. Because you were emboldened to act. There was like. You know what I mean? Like, you were headed somewhere, and it was not just getting the pizza, but it was. It was. There was a righteousness, and there was like. You were channeling.
Kyle Mooney
Yes. Okay.
Matt Rogers
And I believe the energy that you were channeling was due to adrenaline building in your body. Great.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. And I'm feeling a lot of adrenaline right now.
Matt Rogers
Oh, look at that Lego.
Kyle Mooney
He's like, because that's my story.
Beck Bennett
That was my story, actually. I was gonna do the pizza and the plane thing.
Matt Rogers
That server was me.
Beck Bennett
I was the server. I. I'm gonna be honest right now, I don't have a story.
Matt Rogers
That's okay.
Beck Bennett
And I'm. I'm starting to sweat a little bit in my forehead. Initially adrenaline. Yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Like, I'm not.
Beck Bennett
Initially, I was kind of. I'm okay.
Kyle Mooney
I'm okay.
Matt Rogers
But let's talk about it.
Beck Bennett
Initially, I was kind of like, oh, like adrenaline. A moment of adrenaline in my life. And I've thought of playing football when I was in seventh or eighth grade, getting super hyped up, but I don't have a good story. Story. I would. Don't. And so I got. I got so nervous when it came to me. I was like, I don't have a good story. These are good stories. This is. I'm talking about a moment.
Matt Rogers
So I'M just, like, talk about what it felt like to play football.
Kyle Mooney
I want to hear what you guys would say before.
Beck Bennett
Before we played.
Kyle Mooney
We got.
Matt Rogers
Do that.
Beck Bennett
Can we go do that?
Matt Rogers
I would imagine is 10 hut. What is ten hut?
Beck Bennett
I don't even know.
Matt Rogers
My dad was a varsity football coach. I'll never figure out ten hut.
Beck Bennett
And they said ten hut, Right? Ten.
Matt Rogers
I mean, at least in the movies and films. Films.
Beck Bennett
The movies and the film.
Matt Rogers
Two different things, I think.
Beck Bennett
I don't even. I don't remember any of that.
Matt Rogers
What's the one with Denzel Washington?
Beck Bennett
Remember the Titans?
Matt Rogers
That's a movie.
Beck Bennett
That's a movie.
Matt Rogers
No, no, that's a film.
Beck Bennett
That's a film.
Matt Rogers
Varsity Blues is a movie.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yes.
Matt Rogers
This is a rule of culture.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Number 40. So.
Beck Bennett
So let's see. So I would. Would basically, I. I always said it was, like, my first, like, acting experience because I would imagine the other team beating up my younger brother.
Matt Rogers
Whoa.
Beck Bennett
Or, like, being mean to him or messing with him. And I would get so amped up, and I also would, like, went through puberty in, like, a night in, like, seventh grade. So I was, like, this size in seventh grade.
Matt Rogers
Really?
Beck Bennett
And so I was, like, in seventh, eighth grade. Yeah. So I was very good. And I would. I was just like. You dominated. I dominated, and I would just get so amped up.
Matt Rogers
You'd have to, like, call upon the fear that your brother would be killed.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was also nervous about what people. Like, I remember when I started playing, I got hit in a way where I, like. Like, you know, it hurts. It sucked. And so I was scared, and I used that anger to overcome the. The fear of the adrenaline. You know what I mean? That fear and that just, like, I just remember feeling so jacked up and.
Matt Rogers
Insane and, like, just knowing that there's, like, a little bit of guilt, too, in knowing that you had to think about and use, like, the threat of violence towards, like, someone you care about.
Beck Bennett
Have you ever done that for acting ever? What?
Matt Rogers
Just, like, I remember, like. Cause I'm sort of bordering on, like, sometimes I will get to play emotional stuff, and it frustrates me. My adrenaline will go when I can't get there.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And it feels cheap. But sometimes I'm like, all right, they killed your mom. They killed your mom. They killed your mom. And then later, it's like, dude, why did you do that? Yeah, that's your mom. You can't do that.
Beck Bennett
You have to do anything for the part.
Matt Rogers
That's so true.
Beck Bennett
Even kill your mom.
Matt Rogers
In your head.
Beck Bennett
In your head?
Matt Rogers
In your head.
Beck Bennett
No, I, you know, I don't know if I feel. I feel. I felt a little guilt. Cause I actually there's a moment with my son that make. That got me emotional.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
And so I used that for some things.
Matt Rogers
Oh.
Beck Bennett
And I was like. And you know, I kind of felt guilty, like.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Beck Bennett
Bringing. Using that. You know what I mean? And not just like letting it sit, but. But just a little guilty. Not guilty enough to stop me from doing it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. No, because like you. Like you said, you do what you need to do now.
Kyle Mooney
Where do you find? I. No, this is not. This is not an adrenaline cont. Conversation. But I am curious. Where do you fall on tears?
Beck Bennett
Oh, I'm. I'm all about them.
Matt Rogers
Oh, okay. So if you, if you need.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, because especially if, like, if the scene is like, they are sobbing. You know what I mean? Versus, like, if there's a. A moment that you're having where you're just in the moment and tears come, that's great. And it's supposed to be emotional, but if it is saying, like, we need to see sobbing, then it's like, yeah.
Matt Rogers
That'S my thing is like, if it's in the script, I want to emotionally prepare. So the first series regular I ever booked was I love that Free you, which was Vanessa's show.
Beck Bennett
Love that show.
Matt Rogers
Thank you. And I. That justice for that show. That show was great. And I love Vanessa, but I remember and Sudi wrote on that show as well, and I got a script and it said that my character Darcy was inconsolably sobbing. And so I'm like, adrenaline. I. I'm actually get a little bit excited because I'm going to like, oh, I'm going to get to do this. Like, they trust me with this. And then it becomes a thing of, oh, there's an expectation. And then I get called back to the, you know, the goal oriented, you know, like, kid who beats himself up emotionally and kicks his own ass. Like. And so I came to work that day being like, you know what I mean? Like, and I remember I got there ready to do it, and the scene, the setup was so far away and I was just like, but I'm ready to like, rip. And then it's like you block it and you're kind of there and then you're ready to shoot it and it's so far away and all of a sudden it's not happening.
Beck Bennett
It's not. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And they kept saying to me, like, you know, you could use the tear stick. We can blow. We can blow air into your eyes, like, etc. I was like, no, I don't need it. I am good enough to do it.
Beck Bennett
Point of pride. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And then I, out of being so frustrated and I think all the energy building up, I was able to get there a little bit. But after that day I was like, just blow the. It's wind in my ear. Like, just give me the tear stick. It's whatever.
Beck Bennett
Cuz if you can get like. For me, using a tear streak has also gotten rid of that feeling of like, right. Of, of, you know, the ego or whatever. Of like, can I do it? Are you going to be able to do it? Because I can do it by myself or like rehearsing with somebody acting in the mirror.
Matt Rogers
I'm Meryl Streep.
Beck Bennett
Incredible.
Matt Rogers
Meryl Streep.
Beck Bennett
But then, yeah, that focus. I'm like having that and having like the ability to turn it on kind of releases it.
Matt Rogers
No, that's where the training is valuable and I don't have that.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah, I was. I agree with both of you. I feel like I've done it it once. Like I gotta get there. I gotta, I gotta get there. And I did it. And now knowing like, okay, I did it, now I just want to be.
Matt Rogers
Able to like exactly float.
Kyle Mooney
Do you know what I mean?
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah.
Kyle Mooney
I don't want to have to.
Matt Rogers
And also it's like get. You have to get it. You know what I mean? It's like that's another thing is it's like. And now knowing what I know, we know about like just making your day. It's like, just give me the tears. I'm not gonna be the. That's like slowing everything down. Haven't gotten it yet. It's like, no, but like there's three other scenes like your number six on the call sheet. Like, who cares?
Beck Bennett
Give them the product that they want.
Matt Rogers
Just make it real.
Beck Bennett
Make it real. It doesn't need to be a real experience for you.
Matt Rogers
For.
Beck Bennett
If they like it, then it's good.
Matt Rogers
It's not. You're not like, they're not asking you to like create the tear so it falls out of your eye like Demor and Ghost. Yeah, it's great if you can.
Beck Bennett
And then also the thing is like that you mentioned the training. Like there's no. You have like, there's no training like can help you deal with the pressure of everybody watching you and having to cry and pull up that emotional to access that.
Matt Rogers
Well then. But then like at nyu where I went like, there was like the Strasberg Studio and it was like the whole first year was them like doing sense memory. And so they would just be like curled up in little balls on the, on the, on the carpet. And they're like, I can take, I can feel the lemon. I can taste the lemon. And it would just be like, they're like, I have a lemon. And then you could see they really believed that there was a lemon. And they were like, like, I'm going to peel the lemon. I'm going to taste the lemon. I taste the lemon. And it's like they really got so emotional cuz they could taste the lemon. And I was just like watching it, like, this is like, how crazed are you driving yourself? But then they were all able to cry on cue, like it's a thing.
Kyle Mooney
But. And we got, we, we, we gotta.
Beck Bennett
We gotta, we gotta give you your day back.
Kyle Mooney
But I will say you have to imagine. I'm pretty sure my, my wife was Strasberger. I think really for those like 15 people that are in that class, right, Tasting the lemon, thinking out of the lemon. There had to be one person that was fully like, yeah, yeah, I'm tasting the lemon right now. Like, I like feeling like I know I'm not experiencing as much as my.
Beck Bennett
And they know.
Matt Rogers
And that's when you realize they were all 18, 19 as well. And it's like no one's tasting the lemon. Like, some of us are good and some of us are bad. That's the thing about the Crucible. Everybody's like, you know what? And all power to them. And like, if you're out there really tasting the lemon like that rocks like that, it works.
Beck Bennett
That's great.
Matt Rogers
But here's the thing about acting. Some people are good and some people are bad.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, it's true.
Kyle Mooney
And you've been listening to adrenaline.
Beck Bennett
That's adrenaline.
Kyle Mooney
Thank you so much to Matt Rogers. Beck Bennett, after all these years, inspire me in different ways.
Beck Bennett
Honestly. Dude, you get me out of bed in the morning, just every morning. I don't want to get out of bed. And I think, whoa, I didn't know.
Kyle Mooney
I'd hear that today.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Well, thanks guys for having me.
Beck Bennett
Thank you so much. Matt, you were amazing.
Matt Rogers
Thanks guys.
Kyle Mooney
See you next time on Adrenaline. Well, Matt, this, this is, this has been so long. I, I've. I've not gotten to spend this much time with you, so I feel very fortunate. Thank you so much for being here.
Matt Rogers
Like I said, I mean, you guys, you guys rock. Like, I, it's very cool to be able to hang out with you guys. Like, I feel very lucky and how.
Beck Bennett
Likewise.
Kyle Mooney
How do we see the Culture Awards?
Matt Rogers
Well, you can see it in one of two ways. You could. Well, actually three, because I'm sure there's gonna be lots of clips online and on the TikTok and this is the way the kids are consuming it. And that's something I have to be comfortable with. Even though I prefer everyone watch it as a whole.
Beck Bennett
That would be nice. You know what I mean?
Matt Rogers
Like Tarantino. I'd like you to watch this on film.
Beck Bennett
Right. In which case, at the Beast.
Kyle Mooney
Did you shoot it on film?
Beck Bennett
75 million.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, it was a 70 million DOL comedy special disguised as an award show.
Kyle Mooney
That's actually, that's really cool.
Matt Rogers
But no, you can watch it On Bravo on August 5th. But this is coming out well after that.
Beck Bennett
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
So you can stream it on Peacock.
Beck Bennett
Stream it on peacock.
Matt Rogers
Stream it on peacock right the fuck now.
Beck Bennett
Great. I cannot wait.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, it's. And it's.
Beck Bennett
That's so exciting.
Matt Rogers
It's, it's, it's exactly. Bowen and I, if we got to play like a Hollywood puzzle, it's really fucking stupid. And that was another thing as I was like, I was watching the edit and I was watching in its totality and I'm like, wow, like, this is so dumb. Thank God. What a good reminder to not take yourself too seriously. Because, like, this is what it is.
Kyle Mooney
Yeah, it's also.
Beck Bennett
That's great.
Kyle Mooney
Sorry to, Sorry to make it personal in some way or another, but like an example of where a podcast can take you. You guys are on.
Matt Rogers
You guys might be TV stars next.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, that would be great. Maybe we'll have our own award show.
Kyle Mooney
Maybe.
Matt Rogers
Well, that I would be mad. Yeah.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. That would be a little messed up.
Matt Rogers
You can do Christmas music.
Kyle Mooney
What is the equivalent? What is that?
Matt Rogers
I'd be upset.
Kyle Mooney
Like an award show, but not an award show.
Matt Rogers
Big football game. Yeah, you guys should have a big football game.
Beck Bennett
Oh yeah. We could do like, you can do.
Matt Rogers
A Super bowl podcast. If we're doing the Oscars, you guys can do a Super Bowl.
Beck Bennett
Okay, great. We've actually always done a Super bowl party.
Matt Rogers
Really?
Beck Bennett
Yeah. At SNL in New York. We always. And we did like square.
Matt Rogers
You guys make Buffalo chicken dip. Cuz I that up.
Beck Bennett
I have not made Buffalo chicken dip. But it's definitely the move. It's a lot easier than making chicken wings and oh yeah, it's. I'm so, I, I, I want to add it to My. I used to make sliders and, like, little cheeseburgers. Sliders. Just so everybody knows little sliders are cheeseburgers.
Matt Rogers
It's all good, you know, it wasn't something I always knew. Yeah. You know, I had to learn.
Beck Bennett
Sliders can be all sorts of things.
Matt Rogers
You know what I'm saying? Like, some people call me. It could be. It could be a type of pitch in a baseball game. A slider or.
Beck Bennett
Yeah, or comedy pitch. This is a slider. It's coming up.
Matt Rogers
Slider.
Kyle Mooney
There's also a TV show with Jerry O' Connell in the mid-90s.
Matt Rogers
Sliders, I believe. A little type of rat, you know what I'm saying? Like. Like, what is it? You know what I'm saying?
Kyle Mooney
Anyways.
Matt Rogers
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Kyle Mooney
Slider.
Beck Bennett
Oh, yeah.
Matt Rogers
Like. Like, what is it? It's like a bat rat. You know what I'm saying? It's like a slider.
Beck Bennett
Oh, a sugar glider.
Matt Rogers
Sugar glider.
Beck Bennett
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you mean a sugar glider.
Matt Rogers
Which everyone always knew.
Beck Bennett
Sugar gliders.
Kyle Mooney
Well, it's always weird. Oh, okay.
Beck Bennett
What were you gonna say? It's always weird.
Kyle Mooney
It's always weird to not be fully prepared for the next thing you're gonna say. But this time I am. I had an incredible time today, and whether we're talking about sugar gliders or we're talking about sliders, it's always good.
Matt Rogers
Good.
Kyle Mooney
Hope you have a great time. And. And thank you, Matt. And thank you for adrenaline and also thank you for just a good time.
Matt Rogers
Thank you for the human experience.
Beck Bennett
Thank you for the. Yeah, thank you for that. All that stuff, too.
Matt Rogers
Matt Rogers, though, on all socials, I. Oh, yeah.
Beck Bennett
Oh, yes, of course.
Kyle Mooney
And I'm Jason on socials.
Beck Bennett
What's our podcast? What's it going to be all about? Tell us what's our podcast? What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle?
Matt Rogers
That was a Hitgum podcast. What's going on? It's Lamorne Morris and Hannah Simone, and we host the Mess Around a New Girl Rewatch podcast now on Headgum. Now here's the thing. Every single week, we chat about an episode of New Girl, and we really get into it. That we get up in there. We get up in there, you know, we reminisce about our times on set. We share behind the scenes tea. We react to rewatching episodes that we haven't seen in years. We talk about how Jake Johnson is dog. That's not true. We talk about so many memories we have of working with the biggest stars on the planet.
Kyle Mooney
I'm talking Prince Taylor Swift, Olivia, Rodrigo.
Matt Rogers
Which is too big. Bffs having a good old time. Okay? Sometimes we even talk to other co stars like Zooey Deschanel, Jake Johnson, Max Greenfield and Damon Waynes jr. And your dad. We talk to your dad on this show as well. Make sure you subscribe to the mess around wherever you get your podcasts.
Kyle Mooney
New episodes drop every single Tuesday.
Episode: Matt Rogers
Date: October 29, 2025
Podcast Description:
Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney (SNL, former roommates) continue their comedic quest to discover "what their podcast should be about." This episode features comedian, writer, singer, and podcast prince Matt Rogers (Las Culturistas, Have You Heard of Christmas?, The Culture Awards). The trio banters about childhood, performance anxiety, sketch comedy roots, the intensity of SNL, and pitch a new podcast concept — "Adrenaline." Expect self-deprecating humor, deep dives on adolescence, plenty of asides, and unexpected sincerity.
The episode explores the ongoing central conceit of “What’s Our Podcast?” — Beck and Kyle’s cluelessness about what their show is really about and calling on guests to help figure it out. With Matt Rogers as guest, they drift through childhood memories, comedic inspiration, and finding your lane creatively, culminating in the proposal and play-acting of a potential podcast centered on "adrenaline." Throughout, they touch on themes of self-acceptance, performance pressure, and embracing their own weirdness.
Kyle initiates a "quick" Q&A so they can fit in even more questions before time runs out:
[55:36–87:44]
Matt suggests a podcast built on stories of adrenaline and physical extremity. The trio riffs, improvises an episode, and each shares a story:
They riff on "fight, flight, or freeze," staged scare pranks, and performance anxiety after SNL tapings.
The episode encapsulates the core chaos and fun of “What’s Our Podcast?”: delightfully directionless but grounded in camaraderie, creative self-discovery, and sincere appreciation for each other’s work. Matt Rogers is open about both his triumphs and failures, sharing vivid stories about chasing his dreams and reconciling with the ways in which they manifest — sometimes differently than expected. The “Adrenaline” segment offers a meta, comedic take on finding a niche, with mock sincerity and total commitment to the bit.
Final takeaway:
Sometimes the best material comes from embracing what makes you weird — and collaboration, no matter the context or medium, is what shapes creative lives.
For listeners who haven’t tuned in:
Expect loosely steered, highly imaginative, and often vulnerable conversation with a core of big-hearted silliness. The show’s “non-theme” is its greatest asset — every episode can become something new, as long as the chemistry stays alive.