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This is a Headgun podcast.
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What's our podcast? What's it gonna be about? Tell us what's our podcast? What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle?
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Check it out now. Do, do, do check it out now.
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That's a great new song, Kyle. Or was that. Or was that. Was that your impression of our theme song or something?
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No, I thought it would be a fun way to sort of get into. Get into things.
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Doot, doot, doot Check it out now. Doot, doot, doot.
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Yeah, you do it great.
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I'm sorry, man. Did I hurt your feelings?
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No, no, no. I just wanted you to like it, and I can't tell if you liked it.
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Oh, I know. I loved it. I thought it was an amazing song.
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And a perfect cause it sounded like you were sort of making fun of it.
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No, no, no, no, no, no. I wasn't making fun of it at all. I think it was really, really interesting.
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Okay, do you want to sing it with me?
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Yeah, let's go. Two, three, four. Okay. One, two. One, two, three, four.
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Doot, doot, doot, Check it out. You didn't start at the same time as.
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Okay. 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4.
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Doot, doot, doot. Check it out now. Doot, doot, doot, Check it out now.
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That was great, dude. Yeah. And we can sing it with our guest today if you want.
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Yeah. Were you gonna say with Seth Meyers?
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With Seth Meyers. We can sing it with Seth Meyers.
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He's not our guest today.
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No, but, like, we know Seth from SNL and everything, so we can go to New York and sing it with Seth Meyers if he wants. But, dude, it's great to see you as always.
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Yeah, man.
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It's still.
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I mean, really so cool to see.
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You still, like, chugging along like buddies for so long. It's been amazing.
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Chugging along buddies for so long. Yeah, that's how. That's how I've always. He's one of my chugging along buddies for so long.
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Yeah.
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No, but it's great to see you. How was your weekend?
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You know, I saw some friends. I gotta say. I got on an airplane last night and it kept on getting delayed.
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Were you sitting on it, like.
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No, no, no, no. We were in the dead waiting area outside of the gate.
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Yeah.
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Moved gates. But then we finally. So it was. It was a flight that I guess would have gotten me to Burbank at 8:55pm okay. And I ended up getting in at probably like 1:00am oh. And just with a child in the house. Like, you gotta. So I got home at 1:30 and I'm, you know, I'm buzzing because, like, I'm. I'm gonna see my friend Beck tomorrow and all that stuff.
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Yeah.
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So I didn't sleep incredibly well. Then you got to get up early because my. My daughter wakes up pretty early, so I'm a little.
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I'm. I'm.
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I'm running on empty, as they.
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As they say, you look great. You sound great. The vibes are amazing. I think we're gonna have another awesome episode.
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That is really, really special to hear that.
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Yeah. Dude, you always turn it on. No matter what. You're always there. You're always. Kyle. Cool. Can I.
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Hey, can I. Can I reframe this? Turn it around.
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Yeah. Flip it around.
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Yeah, dude, you have been.
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When you. I have been.
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It's.
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Thank you, dude. That's amazing. That's so nice of you to say about me. And I'm going to. I'm going to, like, print that out and put it in a little frame.
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It's really, really special.
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I'm not.
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This is.
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I'm being like.
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When you.
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Because your first. I remember when I first saw you.
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Yeah.
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Sketch.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really, really cool to see you.
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Yeah, man.
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Come along.
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Yeah, man. Sort of sounds like.
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Yeah, man.
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Doesn't Jeff Bridges talk like. Yeah, man.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great to see you, man.
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Yeah, man.
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Yeah, it's been Jeff Bridges. Pretty good.
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Oh, that's sort of Jimmy Stewart, dog.
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Yeah.
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Jeff Bridges. Yeah, it's pretty good. Pretty good. Impress.
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Okay, let's hit our itinerary here.
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Yeah, let's definitely hit the itinerary.
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Last episode was with. We did a fashion podcast with Meg.
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Stalter, and I thought it was pretty cool. I mean, Meg was awesome.
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Meg was.
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I don't know if we're gonna stick with the fashion podcast, but it was. I would. Fashion Boys.
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Oh, yeah.
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Was that a.
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That sounds right.
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Yeah. But it could definitely be a segment at some point.
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Okay.
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But we'll see.
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Yeah.
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See how things, you know, progress. Maybe it'll be one of our better, better options. We'll see. Yeah.
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We still sort of haven't figured out what the, like, end game is here.
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Or, like, how to podcast or whatever. Oh, crap.
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No, no, no. I just. It's. At the beginning, it said you made it seem like, oh, I'm. I'm bringing. I'm bringing some energy. And now it's like, oh, no, it seems like you're not so as sure about. Kind of what we're doing here.
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No, I know exactly what we're doing. And it's. It's vibing and it's feeling great. I was. I was just messing around.
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Oh, my gosh.
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That is such a huge relief. Yeah.
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Because I was sweating over.
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I could see you clam up immediately.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, you're welcome. Oh, yeah. No, but life is crazy.
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Yeah.
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How are you?
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I didn't really get to ask you.
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Yeah, no, thank you. Life is good. As we talked about, Superman came out this last weekend. And your boys in Superman. Yeah. We didn't check it out, even though by the time this airs comes out, it probably won't be in theaters. But go check it out on streaming.
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Yeah. Beck plays Steve Lombard, works as the Daily Planet. And I'm. And I'm gonna see it.
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Yeah. Gonna see it at some point. Just as long as you see it in the next couple years.
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Of course. I wish I should have gone this weekend. I. Unfortunately, I was out of town and I want to see it. I want to support you. I'm so excited for you. The press, the reviews, the culture at large, the response, the feedback just feels, like, very positive. And I know you were thinking about what would that.
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What, What.
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What's it gonna be like when it's finally out there in the world? And I'm so happy that it's been. It's been a positive reaction and response.
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Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, me too. And like I told you, I'm different now. I'm kind of more of a number one at the box office kind of guy. Right. So that's gonna. They're gonna be changes.
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And how would that affect you?
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And I. I'm pretty sure that, like, I'll be late to things.
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Right. And maybe it's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I won't be responding. You're gonna get. Even though I wasn't responding them, but that well before to texts and phone calls and stuff. It'll be like. It'll be worse now, and I'll kind of, like, disappear. Yeah.
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For.
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For weeks at a time. But it's. But it's all good. And it just kind of comes with the territory and just don't take it personally. And I know you won't, because you're. You're good. And I can tell by the facial expressions you're making, you got this.
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I'm good. I don't really, because, like, I feel like people are like, oh, you need. You need somebody on your inner corner.
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Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean by that, like, what do they mean, somebody on your inner corner? And how does that relate to the.
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Well, I feel like some people like to have a buddy or whatever. And it's like for me, I'm kind of cool to be off on my own.
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Yeah. That's what's made you so special, is that you don't, you don't need little. Any buddies. You can be all by yourself.
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No, I never needed anybody.
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Yeah. Well, who's coming in today? Sam Fragoso is coming in today. Is our guest. Very excited to talk to him. Sam is an incredible podcaster and interviewer. Yeah.
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Maybe we can learn something.
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I think so too. But you know, he does these incredible long form interviews, intimate conversations, and we don't have as much time as he does and we don't. There's two of us. We're kind of juggling the responsibilities.
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We're also trying to do a lot. Do you know what I mean? I feel like. And not to undermine the incredible work that someone like Sam does, but that's a, that's an interview, right?
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Yeah, that's an interview.
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We got, we're, we're doing, we're doing, we got this thing that we're doing right now.
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Sure.
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Where we're always trying to figure out how to fill up this time. Or I am. I don't know how you feel about it.
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Yeah, a little bit. You know, it's fun to just riff and. Yeah.
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But sometimes the riffing is going to be whoa. And other times can be like, whoa.
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Yeah. It's going to be like, we've heard that.
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Yeah. Yeah, right.
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It's going to be. You did that again.
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I do wonder if the audience is ever, will ever be like, you got. Oh, you guys had nothing today.
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Yeah. You got to eat. Like, maybe we'll get some of those notes and that's okay. Yeah. Like, you guys got to come in.
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You're going to be reading the. If there's like a Reddit, are you going to read it?
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Oh, yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to go deep.
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Why?
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Just to bring myself down.
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So, you know, it's going to, it's not going to make you feel good.
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Oh, yeah. There's no way that the Reddit makes me feel better about myself. It's only going to make me feel worse, right? Yeah, Yeah, I guess.
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Because what is the best case scenario?
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These guys are amazing. I love them so much. Right. Something like that.
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I guess the best case scenario is like it, it moves outside of Reddit and it is Like a call. It's like trending like Superman or something like that.
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That would be great if we could get Superman numbers on this podcast. But like, they. I think they had like a $100 million marketing campaign. I don't think. What is our.
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Do we have a budget, marketing wise?
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Close to that. You for this. That's amazing. Well, but I. Strap on your red.
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That also means that if it doesn't do well with that sort of muscle behind it, then it's embarrassing.
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Then we're gonna have trouble getting a podcast at another network.
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Yeah.
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Again. Yeah. So we gotta make this work. Yes. Okay. Good to know. Pressure much?
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Oh, yeah. But all this to say that, like, you know, an interview is sort of straightforward. We have all these little parts which could be an. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. We do this, then we like, we sort of have an interview moment with our guest.
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Right. But it's kind of a hangout.
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Yeah.
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It's kind of, you know, there's not the pressure of.
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They raised their idea. Oh, by the way, this is what's our podcast with Beck and Kyle.
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Right. In case you don't know what you're listening to or why you're here, this is. Yeah.
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It's a show where we bring on guests to help try to figure out what our podcast should be about.
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Ah, the mystery. Yeah.
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Are you okay?
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No, no, I'm fine. Yeah. Just doing a voice. Oh, the mystery. The mystery of the podcast.
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It's a good voice.
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Pretty cool.
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They really like the voice.
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Yeah. Anya really like that.
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Oh, my gosh, that.
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Who is that guy?
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Anya really likes the voice. Let's. I guess let's hear that voice again.
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Hello, Anya. Tickling your funny bone.
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Is that the same voice.
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I got. I think I got a little excited. I got. I really put the. Put the pedal to the metal on it. I lost it now. But yeah. Hopefully Sam could give us some little pieces of info, pieces of insight and what's the word that I'm looking for? Pieces of advice.
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Pieces of shit.
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Yeah. I mean, it'd be great to. It's going to be great to have Sam on and maybe he'll give us some pieces of shit about podcast thing that we can like. I don't know. But you think you've got.
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This is like, we're probably on like, episode, what, 9ish or something like that?
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Something like that. And who knows, maybe it's aerial.
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Do you think you're better than episode one?
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You know, I. I Don't. I don't know. I think I'm. I'm calmer, but I don't know if that's. If that's going to be serving me. Actually, I think it might be. It could be better to be like, just pushing. You know what I mean?
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Well, you got that post Superman.
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I've got that post Superman vibe. I'm like, I'm good.
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Yeah.
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I don't really need to.
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I don't even need to be here.
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I don't need to be here. I don't need to bring it.
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I already have so many good things happen in my life. This is just. This is actually like, I've got to. I've got to support my friend Kyle and his little thing.
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Exactly, exactly. But you never know. Like, in a couple weeks we record some more episodes. I might be like, ah, no jobs have come from Superman or anything like that. And I'm like, I'm really, like, scared again about my career. And I'm really trying to make this.
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Because you were scared before Superman came out.
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No, no, no. I'm. I feel good. Are you scared about your career?
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I'm. I'm always thoughtful about it.
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I'm scared of your career. I'm afraid of my career.
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I wish I liked it. There's something nice. When we, when we worked at Sad Night Live, like, that was like a regular gig. Do you remember that?
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Yeah, I remember that.
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Eight years.
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Yeah. Yeah. And you were there for what, nine years?
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Yeah. That was incredible.
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That was so.
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Just thinking of, like, all the people that came through 30 Rock.
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Yeah, the Rock.
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Yes.
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Well, we called it the Rock. But also Dwayne Johnson did appear on the show, right?
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Yeah. This kind of made me think of the Rock. I gave him a piggyback ride and a promo. Dude. I was just.
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Me and my friends were watching that last week.
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Oh, you were watching the promo with.
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Me and Dwayne when we were passing it around online.
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It's so amazing how I made it.
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Yeah, we were passing it around online.
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If you were watching it with your friends, like together, then I wouldn't call that passing it around online.
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No, we watched it and then we pass it around online.
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Yeah, man. I've been passing that around online. Sounds like you.
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When you're giving him the. When you're. He's giving you the piggyback, it's great.
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And so just recently you've been passing that promo around.
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My friends or a bunch of them were watching.
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It sounds like you were maybe. Why'd you push the mic away? Like that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Too close now. Hands are up in the air. He's looking back ride. He's about to flip over the couch. Well, thank you for the support of my.
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You didn't put me in a lot of promos. I never. I always kind of wanted to confront them about it, but never. But I never got around to saying anything.
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Wait, oh, you were going to ask them, like, why am I not. More promos. Yeah.
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Then it got to the point, like, it was, like, late enough in my time there that it's like, I don't even know that I want to be spending whatever that was a Tuesday or Thursday. I don't wanna be there earlier. I love the job. Okay.
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But I didn't.
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It was so demanding that more hours could take away from the little free time you had.
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Maybe they wanted to keep you mysterious.
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I think that's what it was.
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Yeah. They wanted to protect your brand. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it's helping out. I mean, of course. We got the podcast thing happening. It's been a good run. I got the podcast thing happening for the time being.
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And you've had SNL for nine years.
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We're doing exact. Know what the response to the podcast is yet. We're hoping a lot of people, like, are into it, but. Yeah, but they kept. They sort of kept me hidden up from the. From the promo stuff.
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But it was.
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But it was. But, like, just, you know, knowing about the all. You know, the Rock kind of sort of giving you a piggyback ride. Like, there's so much amazing stuff that happened, and it was a great time.
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Yeah, it was such a great run at the show. And I'm sorry about you not getting more promos, brother, but.
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What's up? I'm Kyle Mooney. Wait, I guess the cast member wouldn't.
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I'm sorry, what was that? Oh, you thought you were doing a promo.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Can you be. Can you be a host or something?
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Yeah, I'll be like, oh, what's up? I'm Dwayne Johnson.
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Oh, yeah, no, no.
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I'm Dwayne the Rock Johnson, and this week I'll be hosting Saturday Night Live with musical guest Lil Baby.
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Hey, Dwayne, I noticed your name's the Rock, and I could. And I could. I see you got a rock down there. Are you.
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Are you talking about in my pants, Kyle?
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Are you hard right now or what's. Or is that just how you're shaped?
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Well, tune in this Saturday to find out if this is just how I'm shaped or If I'm rock hard, and.
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Then.
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If I'm Dwayne the Johnson, the rock hard.
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And then.
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Was it Dababy, who's the guest, and Lil Baby?
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No, they're both.
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They're both.
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And then Lil Baby, he's like, okay.
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Yeah, that's a good little baby impression.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah. So, Lauren, if you're listening, which you are, consider Kyle for bringing him back for some promos. That would be. That would be an interesting thing. I bet people wouldn't even realize that you were, like, gone. You know, they'd be like, oh, I guess I still get.
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I mean, like, certainly when I'm. Sometimes I get stopped. When I flew out of LA on Friday, that there was a nice bartender at the restaurant that I was sitting at, and he was like, oh, you're from. Are you from Sinai Live? I was like, yeah, I am. Like, do you live out here or you live in New York then? Right. Like, I think, you know, he was. I think, under the impression that I was still on the show and that. That does happen.
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That happens a lot. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, we're not on the show anymore. We have our own show. It's called what's Our Podcast? And Sam's about to be here.
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That was a great seg.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Okay. Now we'll just wait for. We don't have to keep going. Right? He's here. Oh, he's here. Let's go. Let's bring him on in.
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We recording this?
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We're going.
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Yeah, sorry. We're not trying to, like, scare you.
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This is. You're not gonna scare me.
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Okay. On a podcast, he's an absolute pro. He's sat down with Mr.
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I mean, maybe later you'll scare me, right? Yeah, but this is not scary. What do you call that?
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Like, what is that. What is that phrase of, like, kind of just surprising? Is that. Is that what it's referred to as?
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Yeah, I like my. Pete Holmes does that.
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Yeah.
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When you go on.
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Yeah.
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And he just starts talking about magic mind or whatever the hell he talks about.
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Yeah. Yeah. Is that like a. Is that a. Like a something you take to make your mind stronger?
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You would have to ask him. I've never taken it, but I think that's right.
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Yeah.
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I've got. Been getting Instagram ads.
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Yeah. Yeah, me too.
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Yeah, I want to try that stuff. I would love for my.
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Actually think they. I don't. I don't know if this is going to make it to the.
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To.
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To the final version of this episode, but I think they reached out to me for a potential sponsorship partnership.
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Dude, cool.
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Congrats. I think it's so, like, you finally made it. Thanks, brother.
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Yeah, that's awesome.
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Yeah, no, it's cool. I mean, like, they're doing really cool stuff. You know, I'm not exactly sure what the product is, but it's actually a really incredible.
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You went from. Don't know. To doing really cool stuff.
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Yeah.
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So quickly.
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The team's great, by the way.
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The power of money, like right there.
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It's the power of money. Yeah.
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Amazing.
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It tastes so. It's such a different way of something to taste.
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And again, you haven't tasted it.
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I know. I'm. I have not yet in. I haven't tried the new one.
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And they're not paying you or anything, but you're.
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It's potentially gonna be a brand partnership.
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Oh, so you had the prototype. It sounds like they've.
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Well, no, not exactly. It's gonna potentially be a brand partnership. They've reached out.
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Oh, they've reached out. That's great. Have they. Have they offered any money?
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I haven't heard. I told. I gave them my manager's info. I'm still waiting to hear. But could. This could be something special and like, certainly I'd love to hook all you up with some Magic Mind product.
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That's great, man. Congratulations. Thanks. That's great.
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But I want to. I want to shout out the person who sent me the message from Magic Mind.
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Thank you so much for reaching out to Kyle. He needs everything that he can get. Well, I'm glad we could get all into this. This is really interesting stuff. Sam. Thank you for telling us.
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Sam, how did you.
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So I think it's good you guys have like a presenting sponsor already. It's amazing.
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Yeah, we'll see. I mean, it's a possibility. We don't know, right?
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Yeah. We'll talk to our producers. You'll talk to somebody.
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Fantastic.
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The way you said that was like you just discovered the word producers.
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Yeah, that's pretty accurate.
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Producers Right. That's who they are.
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Were you a. Like a.
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You were.
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You're. You're a film. You're a film enthusiast?
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I was.
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I. Filmmaker.
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I. Yeah, I meant filmmaker stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in high school I was. I started as like a film critic. Yeah. I was super popular and. Right. Yeah. I. And then I kind of became an entertainment journalist after that. I guess in high school I was basically like the kid and almost famous. I'd write the cold emails to like, Vanity Fair and be like, I'm. I want to do this. And they'd be like, I don't know, this is maybe.
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Wow.
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But you would get. I totally got published as a high schooler.
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Yeah. Freshman. Freshman, yeah. Senior year of high school. Freshman year of college.
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Damn, that's awesome.
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Yeah.
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And so like, they never ask like.
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What your age is.
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Right.
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They're just happy to pay someone. Not a lot of money.
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Yeah.
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I said almost famous to do work. Yeah.
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Just let me get laid though, like on assignments, like that's the part of the movie where you're like, oh, that sounds amazing.
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Right, Right. And that's why you get into it. But then it doesn't happen and you're like, why am I doing this?
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Yeah, I mean, I like. I went to Sundance a couple of times. I was like, the girls part, that hasn't happened yet.
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Yeah.
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I'm just waking up at 9:30 to watch like Brigsby Bear or something. Oh, wow.
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That's pretty cool though. You gotta love that.
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Yeah, I saw it.
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Oh, thanks for watching it. Brett Beck's in it. Yeah, Brett Breck's in it.
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You can call me Breck if you want. I'm, you know.
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Are you nervous?
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No, no, no, no.
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Kyle's not nervous.
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The guys from Magic Mind might be listening.
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He's spiraling about all the Magic Mind stuff. He's like, did I ruin the partnership?
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Taking Magic Mind. Yeah.
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So. And wait, so you grew up in Los Angeles, right?
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I grew up in Chicago. Let me give an abridged version. Yeah, I grew up in Chicago. And then around 15, I moved to California with my mother. Cause our family. There was a divorce.
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Yeah, I've been through that.
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Yeah. It wasn't the first one. I think we're on number two at that point.
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Oh, I'm sorry. Is that.
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It's traumatic.
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Yeah, same, same.
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I was hoping we could work it out here today.
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We don't have time for that actually.
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Okay.
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No, yeah, get into it. I'm.
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I mean, you did the couch.
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Probably affects the relationships. You're in some degree.
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Yeah. I think there's a fundamental brokenness, I think is what you're getting at. Yeah.
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Did. Did it have anything to do.
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Still together?
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Yeah. Parents.
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And that honestly tracks.
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Yeah. I'm feeling good about myself. And it all works out if your parents stay together. Yeah. Yeah. We're talking about Superman came out this weekend. And it's because they. They asked me if my parents were still together before they cast me.
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That's. I feel like that shouldn't be allowed.
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I know, I know. But they do their due diligence.
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It is kind of marriage discrimination.
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Yeah.
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What part of conversation? I haven't seen the movie yet. How is that?
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It's great. I loved it. Yeah.
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What are you doing there?
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I play Steve Lombard, a sportswife for the day. Planning A reporter. I work for the Daily Planet.
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That would be. That's a great job.
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Yeah. I have a big old mustache and I'm a loud mouth.
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Perfect. That's perfect. That makes total sense. I grew up in the south side of Chicago.
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South side of Chicago?
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Yeah.
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North side, south side.
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Split between my parents. My mom lived in the suburbs. Father lived on the south side, and then.
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And which suburb did your mom live in?
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It was called Burr Ridge.
B
Okay, gotcha.
C
Yeah. Where did you grew up in Illinois.
B
Yeah. Wilmette and Winnecka.
C
Okay. Yeah. I don't know those places.
B
Yeah, Yeah.
C
I mean, I know. I know the names. Yeah, I know the names. Kyle, you didn't grow up in Illinois, but do you want to say you did?
B
Yes.
A
Well, whenever I meet somebody from the Chicago area, I. I ask them where they're from, and sometimes I'll say, go, Trevians. That's his high school team.
B
Yeah, that's. Yeah. The high school mascot. Yeah. That I grew up with. Do you know Trevians? You know Nutria?
A
Yeah.
C
Oh, yeah, I do know Nutrier. Yeah.
B
Big high school.
C
What the hell is Trevian? Is that their mascot?
B
That's their mascot.
C
What is Trevian?
B
The. The warrior from Trevia. The old civilization around Neo Roman times.
C
It's weird. The more details you give, the less I understand.
B
The little Trevias.
C
The little Trevia?
B
Yeah.
C
Is that what they call it? No.
B
They're huge, actually, the Trevians. Yeah, it's just. That's all I.
C
And you got. You grew up in San Diego.
A
Yes.
C
Okay. I did some research about you two today.
A
Well, you have to do a lot. You're better at research. That we could learn from you.
B
We basically do very little, but that's.
C
The premise of the show. All right.
B
We're hanging out. It's less of an in depth interview. It's more of a hangout. Loose. Let's see what happens.
A
Well, let's. I've got two questions.
C
Okay.
A
Okay. First of all, where in California did you land?
C
I landed in Fresno, California.
A
Oh, okay. Cool.
C
For a time. And. Right. Your mother was from there. Right. And she was like a very good journalist and such.
B
My mom.
C
Right.
B
Not as much. No.
C
Was that someone.
A
My mom's a Jew's mom.
C
Sorry, I got that confused.
A
That's fine.
C
And I read. I was reading all about. Your mother was like this trailblazing reporter in San Diego or something. Another. It sounded amazing. That sounded amazing.
B
And she did sports. Right.
A
She was the first female sports writer in San Diego.
B
So she was a Steve Lombard.
C
That's just that. She was the Steve Lombard of San Diego.
A
Original Steve Lombard. Yeah, I do think that.
B
What was the original Steve Lombard?
A
Yeah.
C
See, if I was on my show, I would not have got that fact wrong. I would have known.
A
Yeah, but because you mean you would have not known the Fresno, San Diego of it all, is what you're saying.
C
I would have just known that that was your mother, not his. But I only read it once today.
A
Yes.
B
Yeah. And we're expecting that for you to come in having research. I mean, already it is impressive you are living up to your reputation by having done.
C
And so why did I land in Fresno? Is that what you're gonna ask?
A
No, that's not. But I get that. I like. I like you pitching stuff because that's maybe where I should go. I'm actually gonna go to a little bit of slight tangent.
C
Okay.
A
And so sort of circle back to the research of it all.
C
Okay.
A
You have. Let's say Seth Rogen is your guest on your show. What is the. In the. Let's say, week leading up to that episode? How many hours of research are you doing? When does the research start? When does it end, et cetera?
C
It's. Well, because we make one a week. You have. You know, I'm sure it's not like that dissimilar to the structure you guys had on SNL where it's like you have as much time as you can, and the time is like five days to do it the best you can for the amount of time you have, and then you have to let it go. So, like, we have. I think we do 52 a year. Maybe it's 45. It's too much. So that week, it's. It's all age dependent. So if someone's, like, under 50, it's like, okay, that's like 10 to 15 hours. They're over 50. It's like 20 to 30 hours. It's all, like, how long they've lived and how long they've worked. With him, he started so young that I think it was a lot of prep.
B
Yeah, yeah. And you go ahead.
A
Well, I actually fully cut you off. I want you to go ahead. I do have something locked in.
B
Okay. I. Do you start with, like, something that interests you the most, or do you start, like, from the beginning and, you know, what's your angle into really getting into the question? Oh, thanks, bud.
C
Great stuff.
B
We're doing great. This is amazing.
C
Yeah. I don't know. I think with Tim, we do get well. I'm sure you guys are pitching people and you're inviting people on. I think the only thing I care about is I have to have an initial interest in them. Like, I can't be talked into a guest.
B
Right. Well, because I would imagine after all this time, you know, that's a lot of work to do. And if you're not interested. That's why I was wondering if you start with that point of interest. Because if you're not and you're just, like, reading facts and researching them, that would get boring, especially terrible.
C
And if you're not interested and you have to pretend to, like, the new terrible thing that they're in, I just can't. I'm just not a good enough actor.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
C
At that. So I think with him, it was probably Freaks and Geeks. And then from there, it goes into. I mean, it's really insane. I think if. If it wasn't for this, if. If I didn't have the show and you saw some of the, like, documents on the computer, you'd be like, there's this restraining order maybe.
B
Yeah, yeah.
C
It's pretty comprehensive. So, like, everyone gets what we call, like, a brief, and it's about 10 to 15,000 words in chronological order. So basically any and everything you could find about someone on the record, from birth to age that they are now is in there. And that's like, you know, pulling from other interviews, looking at the other podcasts, rewatching some of the stuff.
B
Yeah.
C
Which is what we do. Which is what we'll do when both of you have to come on. Talk easy.
B
I would love to.
A
Oh, yeah, I would love to.
C
It's a little like Nardwar. Like, if you guys are familiar with nardwar.
B
Yeah, yeah.
C
It's like nardwar meets Terry Gross meets Dick Cavett, I think is basically how I think of the show. The main thing I say, which you guys can totally steal, but I took from Terry Gross, is I tell every guest, like, if you start saying something and you don't love how you're saying it, just go back and say it the way you want to say it.
B
Interesting.
C
And you'll make everyone's lives. Like, your editors will be happy. You don't have to. Like, you're not in a corner. And I immediately just kind of let that be an out for anyone.
A
Yeah.
C
Cause I don't want them to feel trapped. Like, I don't.
B
I want to link to how they started the answer. And maybe they're rambling and they don't. Like, they're like, you know what? I want to reset. I want to come back and start over.
C
Because the goal is to get to know someone and to get, like, to the essence of who they are.
B
Right.
C
The only people I don't offer that to is, like, politicians, because I don't think they deserve that.
B
Sure. You want to get the honest.
C
I mean, we hired them.
B
Yeah. Yeah, that is true.
C
That's enough already.
B
Yeah. I mean, I definitely feel that with having people in and being new to this and just, like, creating conversation and going with it, and then sometimes I'll be like. I feel like I'll be, like, a minute or two down. A conversation of, like, we're just kind of going back and forth here. It feels natural to me. But is this of any interest to a listener?
C
I have some questions for you guys, but is that allowed here?
B
Oh, yeah, please. There's no rules.
C
So I guess my question is. I guess the first thing that came to mind was why?
B
Why do this podcast? Yeah, great question.
C
And I don't mean that in a. I have loved you guys since I was, like, in high school. It's very sweet. I think you guys are great, and I'm sure it's gonna be a very successful show. Made even better, of course, by your producers. I just mean, like, of this premise. This is pretty hard. Like, you're reinventing the wheel every time.
B
Oh, thank you. Yeah, it is. Thank you, sir.
A
It's tough to tell whether that was a compliment back.
B
You know, I think. I think. I think I'm gonna take it as one. I would say that it is an original idea. I think this idea, we were like, how do we. Like, what context do we have for a podcast? There's so many, you know, and I think that we have always had this, like, felt comfortable in a meta world where we're like being aware of what we're doing and we're calling it out a little bit. And I think it like, it there was like a built in joke there. Like we don't know what our podcast is and we're doing a podcast and we don't know what it is and we're trying to figure it out. Like that I feel like allowed us to not feel self conscious about starting a podcast because there are so many podcasts. But then getting into it and actually doing, trying a new podcast every time does come with an amount of stress that I'm.
C
It's very hard.
B
This is uncomfortable. I don't know how much I like this.
A
I think once you. Once you're like in that this. But you've obviously not pitched your podcast idea yet, once we're there, you're gonna sort of see that it's probably. It's stupider than you think it is.
B
Yeah, it's very.
A
So it might not be as challenging as you think.
B
We kind of do these.
C
So you think it's gonna, you think it's gonna be stupider than I think it is?
B
Yeah.
A
Well, if you're thinking like you're gonna do a whole podcast on the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, like, it's gonna be 15 seconds of us being like, like, so what?
B
We all love Abraham Lincoln. He's the guy with the top hat. Let's do it. Let's get into the assassination.
C
I did read a couple biographies in preparation for it. Okay.
A
But if you're from a broader. Is the question why did you choose this specific premise or why did you decide to do a podcast or both?
C
No, no. Well, because the first part, I just think I get you two making podcasts. It's a lift every time. Yeah, yeah.
B
I mean, and I go ahead.
C
But maybe that's exciting.
A
I think like, I think like, yeah. To what Beck is saying, when we decided like, oh, let's maybe we should try to do a podcast together, I think it immediately felt right that it in theory, if it could be subversive, that's what would make it worthwhile.
C
Yeah, it has a little Larry Sanders show influence. In my head, that's what first thing I thought of.
B
And I think we are. We're working on it and trying to get better, but we don't know what we're doing. So that allows that.
A
Yeah, it does allow it to be shitty to some regard.
C
Yeah, no, I'm keeping that in Mind. But I do think it's kind of amazing how many people. How many comedians or people in comedy have a podcast, and you're like, I don't. What is this about? And your show's going. We don't know.
B
Right. On some level, it's like a larger existential podcast. We don't know what we're doing.
C
I think you're making an admission at the top that you don't know, and I find that very. It sounds like I'm being sarcastic. I'm not. I kind of love it.
B
No, that's great. Thank you.
A
And when we talked about this show and when we were pitching it, and even when Beck and I talk about it, to me, the ultimate version of it, I don't know whether we've achieved this or whether we will achieve this, is that we are vulnerable about ourselves as performers and about as podcasters and even as humans. And that, like, if you could get to a moment where, like, the audience can understand, like, oh, they are struggling, or they did figure something out, that could be rather endearing. So that is exciting. Just the idea of that.
C
Remember that. That interview series you did where you were, like, at the movie convention and you were like.
A
We've sort of dubbed them the Awkward Interviews.
C
Right, The Awkward Interviews, yes. Yeah. And that was the working title of Talk Easy before I started was that those were good confidence there. You're confident in doing your thing.
A
Yeah, I appreciate that.
B
Which is amazing, because your thing is like. It's like, what? And he's like. He's confident in that. That's so cool. That's. I can't believe that he can be confident in that. That's, like, amazing.
C
And I was gonna say that, but I think it's much better coming from him.
B
Of course. Yeah. And that's what I'm here for.
A
All I can. All I can do is me. That is. That's the reality.
B
Kyle. That has been an expression that Kyle has used throughout his life. You do you.
C
Yeah. And how does it feel to kind of share the. The real you now?
B
Yeah.
A
That was scary. Sam is, of course, referring to my music project.
B
Of course.
A
Intimidating. Because, like, that truly is what I've always wanted to sort of focus on and care about. And I think people sort of imagine me in a certain way and think of my art in a very specific way and what I do. And I've dedicated so much of my life to comedy, but to, like, kind of put something out there that is actually sincerely me and is something that is not a bit or anything like that. It's just like, this is the art that I want to put out into the world. It was scary, but people have been very sweet about it, so it's been really awesome.
C
I enjoyed it. I'm curious, Beck, did you feel like the album lined up with the real Kyle that you know and love?
B
Um, no. I think that that real Kyle is maybe the Kyle he thinks of himself as. That he wants to put out there, but the real Kyle is not like that.
A
I disagree.
B
No, I do think that. I mean, you know, Kyle contains multitudes and I do think that is a genuine side of him for sure.
C
Kyle, do you think there is a distance between the one you know and the one that he thinks he is?
B
You know, I don't know. I don't know. I haven't seen the live show also, so, like.
C
Oh, yeah, I want to see that.
B
So I don't know the Kyle. I'll list you guys that he puts out there, but in clips I've definitely.
A
Well, Beck says he's gonna do one of the shows.
B
Yeah. Oh, I'm planning on it.
C
You gonna. Do you play guitar or something?
B
I don't play guitar. I mean, I do make music.
C
Oh, you do?
B
Yeah.
C
What kind of music?
B
It's kind of all over the place, but it started out as pop rock and it's gotten. It's. It's a pop. Pop influence for sure.
C
And who made the theme song of your show?
B
Kyle and I did. I sing on it. It called singing and I. I would call it singing. Yeah. Thank you. And Kyle made the beats.
C
Was that your first musical collaboration, is it?
B
No, no, couldn't have been.
A
We did some. We definitely did some stuff, I think at the show. And we did through some Good Neighbor stuff we did.
B
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. But you remember when we were recording, when we were filming Clothes are Holes?
A
Yes.
B
We were on stage. There's a piano there. And you were noodling around a little bit and I was singing while you were playing and we were coming up with songs. It was pretty beautiful.
A
Oh, cool.
B
Yeah, it was very cool.
C
Are we gonna cut that in in post?
B
I mean, I don't think we have the footage behind the scenes footage, but, you know, I could definitely see some bigger collaborations between me and Kyle in the future.
A
Yeah, that'd be really exciting. I think. I've always thought you're such a creative artist and I can't wait to hear more from you.
B
Jesus. That was like the nicest thing said in the most. In the meanest way. Yeah. They always thought you were an incredible.
C
Artist, by the way. That is how.
B
Okay. Jesus. That is how every. For the listeners. Kyle was trying to touch me.
C
Yeah. But you consented, I think.
B
Yeah, I consented. Yeah.
C
That is how every bad interviewer ends their podcast. It's like, well, it's been great. And, like, we really can't wait to see what comes next for you and.
B
You know, really great to see you and everything.
C
I'm sure you guys have done interviews like that.
B
Yo. Yeah, absolutely.
C
That was amazing. This is. I want to add something before we get into the. To the show within a show.
B
Yeah.
A
It's nice that you can sense that, like, the transition is coming. Almost like you.
B
You knew.
C
Yeah. I can feel your body length.
B
And I will say I felt. This is the most comfortable I've felt in any of our podcasts.
A
Really?
B
Yeah. I think I've. I've definitely not agree. I've. I've laughed more. I've. There have been ones that were, like, goofier or, like, sillier or, like, bigger conversations or whatever, but this has definitely been the most chill. And I think that's. That's a strength.
A
Movie's the number one at box office.
B
Yeah. I think it's. Maybe it's because I'm number one at the box office globally.
C
Right.
A
But no, Sam, obviously it has to do with you as well. But I think he does have, like.
C
A right, because we're taping this right on the heels. Right on the heels.
A
He's flying Superman close to the Sun.
C
Journalist.
B
Yeah. He's in the comics since the 70s. He's a really big deal. His name's Steve Lombard, Sportswriter. At the time.
C
I heard he has a mustache.
B
Big one. Yeah. It's one of the biggest in the dcu.
C
Kyle, is this hard for you to see him kind of, like, rise to these new heights?
B
Yeah, because Kyle. Because, of course, because Kyle was in Zoolander too, and I wasn't.
C
And that was Kyle, like. Yeah. You, like, directed a movie for a 24. But, like, like, he.
A
He's Steve Lombard.
B
Yeah.
A
The reception's been really great.
B
Yeah, it's been amazing.
C
And then the parallels to your mother seem. The journalist.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah, that's. I didn't. I actually didn't put that together. That's.
C
That.
A
And that shows the insight that Sam has.
B
Right. I didn't even have that insight. I should have.
A
You know what? I'm so happy for Beck. And he was. And I don't want to. And I don't want to throw you under the bus.
B
No, brother, do your thing.
A
I feel like last week, you know, he mentioned that he had. He was feeling some vulnerabilities, and, like, you're seeing him, like, fully on the other side of it, and it's like.
B
Yeah, I'm like, life is good.
A
Life is a highway.
B
Yeah, all right. Life is a Superman highway. I want to fly on it all night long. Something like that.
A
So I've. I'm so you. You know, the premise of the show.
C
We are.
A
We're not sure what our podcast should be about, and so we have invited you today to. To maybe help us figure out a good podcast. So what are you thinking?
C
So I have two things. Yes. The first one I came up with was, like, this is like a show that someone is going to do, or maybe they're already doing it, but it's called off air. And it would be all the sketches and bits that were cut for time in your time at SNL or whatever. Sketches, like, were good at table, killed at table, but didn't go to rehearsal or whatever the hell. And, like, that's its own kind of show. I feel like someone has done that, or I could see someone doing. I know, like, Spade and Carvey do a SNL show.
B
Right.
C
But people love that.
A
Yes.
B
Yes, they do.
C
I don't think I would be good at doing that show. So the show I thought of was just around nostalgia, because I thought the two of you have made so much work. I was thinking of the Briggs v. Bear film, the Y2K movie I was watching. And also, in part, when I think of the two of you, I am nostalgic for a time in high school when I was, like, in love with good neighbor stuff. But you guys have made a lot of work about that time, about that kind of teenage period.
A
Yeah.
C
So that's what I came up with. We can do something else also.
B
Yeah, let's do something else. I don't like those. What else you got? No, that's great. That's great. And I think. I feel like it could be nostalgia, maybe in the context of our previous work, or maybe it's just nostalgia in general.
C
Up to you guys. Yeah. I think it could be nostalgia about your previous work. It could be the things that you guys were obsessed with, that high school period. You're both born in 84, right?
B
Yeah.
C
So you probably had a lot of similar passions. I don't know. I don't know. But that in my head, based on the stuff you guys have made, that's what I Came up with.
B
That's a great. That's a great idea. And I think that that works.
A
Yeah, it's a great starting point. And we'll see you guys on. On our. When we have a new podcast called Nostalgia.
B
It's about nostalgia. We're gonna go do. We'll see if it's gonna be our podcast forever now.
A
How's everybody doing? My name is Kyle Mooney, and what's up?
B
It's the B man, Beck Bennett here.
C
What's up?
B
What's getting you? What's gotten you? Giggling, my man. What's up? You know what?
A
I'm just. Sorry. You know, I gotta be honest. I was thinking about something from back in the day and, yep, sort of warms my heart, I guess you could say. I'm. I was feeling a little nostalgic.
B
That's what it's all about. You told us. Nostalgia podcast. That's what we'll talk about with Beck and Kyle. Nice. Yes. I nailed that opening, dude.
A
Great work, man.
B
Here we are to talk about. Thank you, you. Great work, too. With the opening. Here we are to talk about a different time. A time that we're nostalgic for is nostalgia. I guess nostalgia isn't a time period. I'm kind of learning, even though I've been doing this pod for a while. It's kind of a feeling. I guess you're just looking at it. So my co host Kyle's just looking at me right now, and I'm wondering if I did anything wrong or. I just am like, I think he's.
C
Wondering if you've done anything right. I think it's.
B
Oh, and do you want to say anything or.
A
Welcome to Nostalgia. Kyle Mooney here.
B
So it's nostalgic is the name. Oh, nostalgia is the new. No, but we are feeling nostalgic.
A
We got a great episode today. This guy has been killing it for years. He's got a. He's great at interviewing, researching a filmmaker, a film enthusiast. Actually did some film criticism in high school, which I thought was really incredible. And, you know, that's a time period we. We talk about a lot.
B
High school. Yeah, we're.
A
Our nostalgia podcast.
B
Yeah. Yeah, we're nostalgic for it. And it was a great time, high school and junior high and that time where we were grown up and discovering the world and yourselves and ourselves.
C
What were you guys like in high school?
B
And by the way, did we introduce our guest yet?
C
Oh, that was kind of like a nice intro, I thought.
B
Oh, yeah, it was a nice intro, but we didn't finish it with the name. Ladies and gentlemen, we have Sam forgot.
A
Sam Fragoso.
B
Yeah.
C
The name did elude the intro.
B
And that's the final part of the intro. Always the name. Sam. Thank you so much for being here.
C
Thank you so much for having me.
A
You know, and, you know, Sam, if you've listened to the. If you've listened to the pod, and I do, you know, you know how we start things off?
C
Yeah, of course.
A
I. You're in the hot seat.
C
I know. I'm a little nervous.
A
What are you nostalgic for right now?
B
Yeah. And it can be anything. It can be like a little.
A
He's listening.
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah. Thanks for trying to save me.
B
Yeah, no problem. I mean, just trying to make everybody comfortable.
C
Long. Just a long time fan of the show and, and the work. And I'm honestly nostalgic for that intro, which I thought was so lovely and generous, but for the film critic thing was a nice little touch too.
A
Well, hopefully accurate.
B
Hope.
C
Hopefully. Hopefully.
A
I did my research, but, yeah, I feel like.
B
Yeah, hopefully I did mine too.
A
You know.
C
What?
A
You know, I was always. I'm just curious when I talk to our guests about nostalgia. Yeah, exactly. You know, like, did you collect anything when you were a kid?
B
Great question.
C
Okay. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did. I had. Boy, this is. This is actually bordering on sincere.
B
Hey, that's okay. That's okay.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did I collect? I collected a few things I had. I loved. Do you guys ever play that game Yu Gi Oh?
A
Oh, yeah.
B
Well, I never played it.
C
Yeah, I, I collected Yu Gi oh cards. It made me super popular amongst all my friends and classmates. And that, that's what I collected, I think.
A
Now, Now I've two questions on the Yu Gi oh front here.
B
Wow.
C
Can't believe you have two.
A
Are there monsters?
C
Yeah, I think there are monsters.
A
And who's. Who did? Was there, Was there like a card you really wanted or was there a character you were always seeking?
C
Yeah, I, I don't remember that part. And I realize it's not a fruitful prompt. I, yeah, no, I think I got. I, I, I. No, I think I had a lot of the cards.
B
And is. Was Superman a part of that?
C
Nothing.
B
It's. I'm nostalgic for Superman.
C
Superman.
B
I love that guy.
C
You're a nostalgic last week's box office opening.
B
Yeah, yeah, of course. Something I'll always be nostalgic for.
C
Nostalgic for. Even though we are basically in the moment right now.
B
Oh, yeah.
C
Of your success. With Superman.
B
Yes. And I can hold space for both.
C
Right. And you do famously hold space.
B
Thank you, brother.
C
No, I remember it was a card game, and it was. I never did Pokemon. I never played Pokemon. But it was a card game. You would collect the cards and you would. I think there was dueling is what it was called. I feel like a lot of people watching and listening to this. Were Yu Gi oh, yeah, sure.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah.
A
And do you now if that's.
C
That sounded like a joke, but it was totally sincere.
B
No, I think most of our fans are Yu Gi oh people.
C
I actually think they are.
B
Yeah. No, I do. I.
C
No, they don't give a. About Superman.
B
No, no. And that's fair and that's fine. Kyle, don't be scared.
A
I'm just. I don't. I'm nervous that you guys are there. It's. There's tension.
C
Oh, no, no, no. Not at all. Kind of like.
B
Totally. No, we're fine. Don't worry about it.
C
Never been better.
B
Yeah. Yeah. We're thriving.
A
Do you think if somebody walked through this door right now, Who? If some.
B
Just a random. No, yeah. Nobody specific. Just somebody. Yeah.
C
And they.
A
And they. I was gonna say they handed you a pack of Yu Gi oh cards, what would your reaction be? Do you think how you're. In terms of a level of how nostalgic, how pleased or not if you.
C
Walked into the Hadgum Studios, hey, here's.
A
A pack of Yu Gi oh cards from 2000. 2000. And.
C
Right. My first thought is, did they park in the lot? Because there's not a lot of spaces out there. That's my first thought.
A
Okay, so you're not focusing on the pack of Yu Gi oh cards and.
B
Why this guy has them? Because.
C
I'm considering how they're doing in the day, I would be super excited.
A
Okay.
C
So I would open the pack 100%.
A
You still you.
C
I still have them somewhere.
A
You're. You there. There is a sense of nostalgia.
C
There is a sense of nostalgia. Yeah. And then. And I had friends that played, and it was just like a thing to immerse yourself in.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay. Now, Sam, I have a really serious question for you here.
B
Uh.
A
Oh, okay. You're 10 years younger than us, I imagine.
C
Yeah, exactly. That. I was born in 94.
A
What generation are we calling that?
C
I'm a millennial.
A
So you're. I'm an older millennial.
C
Younger millennial. Yeah.
A
We can still get along now.
B
Yeah.
A
I feel like there is a lot. I feel like. I feel like nostalgia and forgive me, I'M gonna do my best to be articulate here. I feel like it aligns with the sort of tropes of how people refer to millennials. Like, I feel like a lot of us are nostalgic for our childhood and kind of talk about the TV shows, the toys, the comic books, whatever.
B
We read like, well, it was a different time. Jesus. It was totally different.
A
You got every episode.
B
You gotta remember. It was a totally different time when we were. But I think.
C
Yeah, I think that it. Well, I think you're in the smart comments. Yeah, it was like a. Yeah, I.
A
Think you're in the smart comments because we're in a.
C
We're in a time now.
B
Exactly.
C
And. But back then, was it.
B
It was different.
C
A different time, for sure.
A
But would you. Would you agree?
C
I would agree.
A
I feel that, like, for instance, and I don't want to. I'm not an expert.
B
Absolutely.
A
But I feel like to some of the younger generations, I'm gonna say Gen Z. Yeah. Oh, there are components of, like, millennials and their nostalgia. That is cringy.
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah. Do you.
A
Is that an accurate thing to say?
C
So you're saying. Sorry, go on. That there's things that Gen Z is nostalgic about that you feel is.
A
No, I think that, like, they find millennials have presented themselves as incredibly nostalgic people. Yes. And I think that can be annoying.
C
Yes, it is annoying to people. Yeah.
B
Doesn't. Does for sure. And it's specific to. To the millennials. It's not like I would imagine every generation goes through that at some point. Maybe they're just not there. But.
A
Well, speaking as somebody who, like, I think. And I will. I am gonna reference the previous conversation we had. Sam, you. I think one of the things that interested you about coming on our nostalgia podcast was the fact that we've created work before that is based in nostalgia. And so speaking for myself, I think I definitely care a lot about the materials that I consumed as a child. And, like, it's very prevalent to me. And like, you were.
C
You and I. I remember you were like a big, like, comic book Superman guy. Right?
B
Yeah.
A
That is.
B
I can ask for him. Yeah. He loved them growing up. He loved, like, the Daily Planet crew and kind of like the relating to them because his mom was a sports writer growing up. So, like, loved the, like the sports writer character. Right? Steve Lombard. Yeah.
C
Yeah.
A
I don't know how much I cared about. So I remember. I remember. I remember the Lois and Clark show. I remember, obviously, I've seen the Christopher Reeves movies. Yeah, I haven't seen the new one yet.
C
No, me either.
B
Yeah, the new one is amazing.
C
Yeah. I even saw the one that. That Michael Shannon was in. I remember that one. Jesse Eisenberg was in that.
A
Yes.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
I can name the rest of the.
A
Cast, too, but, yeah, I guess I really don't know that I exactly know.
C
That one I heard was really good. The.
A
Which one? With Jesse Eisenberg?
C
Yeah, the ones that Beck wasn't in.
B
I thought, oh, no, they're all great. But the one I was in was great.
C
Top notch.
B
Yeah. Top notch.
C
No, I just remember I am nostalgic.
B
For.
C
The early 2000 and tens, which is when I was in high school. And I think a lot of people are nostalgic for parts of high school and the culture and the things you love then. And I. I thought, yeah, like, you guys have made so much stuff about that time in your life. I was just curious what the two of you were like in, like, the mid-90s as teenagers, because you guys have made so much stuff about that time.
B
I was longboarding.
C
Yeah.
B
Listening to Californication.
C
And you grew up in Chicago.
B
In Chicago. I was dreaming of the coast.
C
Right.
B
You could say. And of the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
C
I mean, if we don't have to say, because you did say.
B
Yeah, exactly. I was playing sports, doing plays, singing, dancing, moving and grooving.
A
John Beljean.
B
And John Beljean.
A
Les Miserables.
B
That was sort of at the end of the 90s.
A
You were what, the captain of.
B
The captain of the lacrosse team.
C
Sure.
A
Took classes at Second City.
B
That's right. On the weekends. Yeah. And what about. Kyle was rapping.
A
I was in a hip hop group.
B
Yeah.
A
I would describe. I would say I was like, kind of not the most popular, but I was like, probably the. The next level down.
B
Yeah.
C
That's a good level.
A
Do you have any. Were there specific questions you had about high school, the high school experience?
C
I. I didn't come in with specific questions, but I want to make sure.
A
You get, you know, you're a guest on our show, and I don't. Also don't want to put you on the spot.
C
Yeah.
A
But I want to make sure you get out of what you want. This experience. What you. What you came here.
C
I've already gotten so much from this experience. Like, I'm already, like an overwhel. What?
A
All right, brings us to one of our favorite segments.
B
Oh, yeah. I was going to ask a question to. I'll bring us to. I'll ask one of our favorite Questions as well after the segment.
C
Yeah.
B
Oh, so we want to put these on.
A
No, we probably don't have to. It's time for old school video games.
B
Ask an expert about.
A
Ask an expert about old school video games.
B
Oh, nice.
A
I think the idea was we call somebody.
B
Oh, right. We were going to call. We have anybody we could call? Can we call somebody live on the show? Nick Wagar has, like, a video game podcast on. Do you want.
A
Oh, cold calling Nick Wagger. That makes me.
B
Hey, give him a call. Matt Abodaka also hosts.
A
Like, I have their number if you guys want.
B
We could also maybe just call Generic.
A
Video Game store for some reason. Yeah, let's call it Generic Video Game store. Great idea.
C
100%.
B
All right, Kyle, you got. You want to ask a question?
A
Yes. Yeah. Can somebody get a generic video game store?
B
Yeah, I got you. I got you right here.
A
There's any generic video game store.
B
Here we go.
C
And which one are you calling?
B
There's one right by here.
C
Oh, wow. Yeah, it's an associate.
B
Kyle is actually very good at prank phone calls. This is not a prank phone call.
C
I have no doubt. I mean, this is what you guys do on the nostalgia podcast.
A
Yeah.
C
Hold it closer to the.
B
Come on.
A
Hey, how are you? I just had some questions about old school video games.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah, sort of Super Mario Brothers, Donkey Kong, like, before. How old school for what? Yeah, exactly. What are your thoughts?
C
No, but what do you want?
A
Like, what are you looking for? 80s 90s nostalgia. We don't have anything that vintage. Yeah, okay. Who do you think the best video game character of all time is? I wouldn't know.
C
I just work here. I really don't play games.
A
I'm on the PC streamers, Twitch livestream. Like, people just see me, like, most of the time and stuff. Hang out, hardly play games on it. Oh, okay. No doubt. Well, we run a podcast called Nostalgia, and we were just talking to people. Thanks for your time. Hey, yeah, no problem.
C
Have a great day.
A
All right, you too.
B
That was really sweet. And so wait, we asked an expert. We didn't really learn anything. Just to be clear that that expert doesn't play video games. Yeah. Did he say he plays PC games?
C
I heard something about Twitch live streaming.
A
That sounds right.
B
Yeah. PC games. Did I do okay? Yeah, you did grow. I think you did great. Because you didn't want to be rude. He was being genuine.
C
Well, you were trying to tap into his expertise that he evidently did not have.
A
Yeah, but that's going to happen on.
B
On our podcast on Ask An Expert. You never know what the expert's gonna say. I love to ask everybod question on our podcast about nostalgia. Is there, like, the. Given that we have, like, this thirst for nostalgia, you know, this appreciation for it, does that mean that something's broken about us?
A
Well, here's.
C
Here's what I was the broken question.
B
Like, there's something wrong with us, something that we're missing in our, like, present lives or whatever.
A
It has been pointed out to me before that, like, I do. You know, I'm especially into, like, Saturday morning cartoons and action figures from the 80s and 90s.
C
You love. You collect VHS tapes.
A
Yeah, and VHS tapes. Absolutely.
C
And.
A
I do think of that period, let's say from like, from 1985, whenever I first became conscious, to probably, like, 1997, 98. Like, all that stuff is very much in the forefront of my mind. And a lot of that existed, hate to say it, prior to my parents splitting up. So I wonder if there is any sort of link. And, like, this was a moment in my. In time when I was generally happy.
C
Right. And when did they split up?
A
They separated probably 95, but then it was sort of a long.
C
Okay, so you were 11. Yeah.
A
Yeah.
C
And then it was a long split. Yeah, got it. And when does your nostalgia period cut off?
A
Well, that's the thing, I feel, because, like, you know, like, I made this movie Y2K. That's about, like, the turn of the millennium. Right.
C
And.
A
But I think that classically, the stuff that I care about the most is, like, the era of, like, you know, Ninja Turtles, Transformers, DuckTales, etc. Like, kind of the crossover from the 80s to the 90s is probably the period that. That I most think about.
C
Yeah. And because you were happier then.
A
Well, it's a theory. I'm not saying that it's. But, like, I. I feel like it's a. It's an answer.
C
Yeah. It's tough for him because, you know, his parents are together.
B
Right.
C
So he's had kind of just a. I'm just steady line of happiness.
B
Yeah. I just love. I don't really thirst for an era. I'm doing the podcast with my man because I know about the divorce stuff, and I feel bad for him. Right. I'm trying to.
A
That was sort of.
B
But I'm just like, I'm loving every moment.
C
You're loving it. You're nostalgic for the things to come, right?
B
Yeah, exactly. Because I have so much coming down the pipe.
C
Yeah, you do. Superman, 2, 3, 4.
A
We've been talking about it.
C
Yeah. But it's good. Like, you are. So it's so nice that you're, like, showing up for him in an emotional support.
A
No. Becca.
C
Kind of way.
A
He does. And we try to go both ways.
B
Yeah. It comes both ways. Comes out and it goes in.
C
Yeah. Famously.
B
Yeah. He gives it to me, too.
C
Yeah. I was trying to think. I was trying to use your framework and I'm just gonna move right on from that.
B
Sometimes you got to.
C
Yeah. Actually, let's stick with it. I like that you said there's like a 12 year window that you were fond of. My parents split up before I was one.
A
Yeah.
C
So I don't know if I'm nostalgic for the 10 months in which they were together.
A
So maybe that. But maybe that disproves this theory because you think you.
C
Well, it was 1994, which is a pretty good year in movies and like. Yeah. Some good stuff happening. Yeah. I don't know if it disproves a theory.
B
I like the.
A
But you.
B
But you.
A
You're still. You consider yourself a nostalgic person and that's.
C
Yeah. I was like the type of kid and, you know, I started writing young and I was at these festivals and in these settings where I was the youngest person, I was often called like an old soul.
A
Right.
C
Which is a terrible thing to call yourself in. A fine thing for someone else to call you. Like, I would never say that.
B
Right.
C
I wouldn't be like that. But that's what people would say. And so part of that was like having an interest in the past and being a little obsessed with it.
A
But you're also being forward thinking and, like, almost, I hate to say it, arguably career driven and, like, thinking about your life maybe outside of being a child.
C
Yeah.
B
You're growing up. You grew up too fast, man.
C
Too fast.
B
Well, that was a little bit of nostalgia, obviously. It was. Obviously. It was great having Sam.
A
And we want to thank not only Sam, but also the people at Generic Video Game Store for their video game expertise.
B
Yes. Thanks for getting on the phone with us to talk about all things video games.
C
There could have been just a touch more of things.
B
Yeah.
C
You know, from the expertise side.
A
At least they. You know.
C
But it left something to be desired.
B
I had fun. And you know what? I gotta be honest, I'm already nostalgic for this episode because this was one of the best ones we've ever done.
A
And we're gonna close it out. How? We close out every episode of Nostalgia with Beck and Kyle with the donkey song. Everybody donkey like this. Thanks so much, guys.
B
Okay.
A
Hey, guys.
C
What's up?
A
Welcome back.
B
Welcome back. Well, we tried out to.
A
What's our podcast?
B
Yeah, we gave Nostalgia, the nostalgia podcast, a run for its money. I thought it was great. I had a lot of fun.
A
A lot of set.
C
Yeah. And, yeah, the experts were experting, for sure.
A
Yeah. And I want to shout out our producers, Anya and Casey, who were back there, and I think they knew just the right segment to throw to, because that's the first time we've had an ask an expert. And I'm really happy that you were here for it, Sam, because I think it went pretty well. And just the idea of getting somebody on the phone is, to me, a big.
B
Really set the bar low in this.
C
Era of just, like, being disconnected and not, Not. Not often talking to each other and feeling the sirens in the distance. Like, you know, there's.
B
It's like, just pick up the phone.
C
Just pick up the phone and make the call.
B
See, like, how you doing, man? Like, what's going on?
C
Everyone's always buried in their phones and.
B
Like, the Yelp reviews and everything.
C
Yeah, the Yelp. And there's a lot of Yelp reviews. It's nice to just hear someone else's voice connect.
A
It really was nice. And they. And they. And I. I think great customer service in the sense that, like, I. I felt like that person.
C
He was game for anything.
B
He could have been rude. He could have been like, I don't. I'm sorry. I'm busy.
C
You know, game for anything. Except for actual games.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Except for gaming.
C
Yeah.
A
Well, Sam, I got to say, it really has been such a pleasure.
B
Poor guy.
C
Sorry. Sorry.
A
Go on. No, I feel like I, I. I feel like speaking personally, and. And I feel like I got to see one of the greats in action, and I feel like the way you were in tune with us was really inspirational, because I would love to bring that energy to our guests. And that level of research, what it does is it shows that you care, and that is meaningful.
C
I do care, and.
B
And that's what I'm. That. That is something that I worry about when I don't do any research. I'm wondering if my guests feel like I don't care, even though I do. Yeah. You know what I mean?
C
So, you know, it was an honor to be here. Super excited to check out Superman. No, but honestly, it was a total joy.
A
Is there anything you want to. You want to plug while you're here?
C
I want to plug Beck's in the Film Superman. I think that should be. I feel like that hasn't really been said enough.
B
Exactly.
C
I just want to get out in front of it.
B
Yeah, no, let's get out in front of it and put it out there. I' Superman. I play Steve Lombard.
C
Yeah, yeah. And he was a journalist.
B
Yeah. Sports journalist. Yeah.
C
Mustache. With a mustache dissimilar to your mother, but a little bit similar. I host a podcast. It's called Talk Easy.
B
It's an incredible podcast.
C
Nine years running. Man.
A
That's so incredible. Congratulations.
C
Thank you.
B
If you don't know about it already, go check it out. You're going to want to listen. Me and Kyle haven't been guests yet, but we're being told we will someday, which would be cool. Get some stuff out of us. We'll see what's in there. But yeah, and like Beck said.
A
Nostalgia. Great topic.
B
And.
A
And I am. And you know what you said you were nostalgic for.
B
I gotta run.
A
Okay. I. I think we will look back on this period five years from now and be nostalgic for it. So I think, yeah, there's something to say about these.
C
These.
A
These days and in this time with. With great people.
B
Yeah.
C
I agree. And I look forward to seeing you guys again. Thank you for having me on.
B
Thanks.
A
Thanks for being here, sir.
B
This was fantastic. What's Our Podcast is a headgun podcast created and hosted by Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney. The show is produced and engineered by Casey Donahue and Anya Konobskaya with production support from Marika Brownlee, Rachelle Chen, and Ally Khan. Our executive producer is Anya Kenovsaya. Ken. Katie Moose is our VP of content at Headgum. Our theme music is made by us. For more podcasts by headgum, visit headgum.com or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
A
What's up, everybody? I'm Kyle Mooney.
B
And what's up, everybody?
A
I'm back behind and man. Ooh, I got. We got something to tell you.
B
Oh, yeah, we definitely do.
A
Yes. It's a brand new podcast on Headgum.
B
That's right. And it's called what's our Podcast?
A
Yep. And that's because we don't have a single idea what our podcast should be about.
B
Yeah, we don't. So we actually have guests come on and they tell us what they think our podcast should be about, and then we try it.
A
Yep. Guests like Mark Maron, Jack Black, Brittany Broski, Kate Berlan, Bobby Moynihan, Meg Stalter and Tim Baltz, landon Axler, Joanie McGree and Dender and Dender.
B
New episodes release every Wednesday, so subscribe to what's our podcast on YouTube or.
A
Any of your favorite podcast platforms. Yeah, I'm gonna go do it right now.
In this episode, Beck and Kyle welcome Sam Fragoso—podcaster and interviewer behind "Talk Easy"—to help them (once again) determine what their own podcast should actually be about. The conversation turns candid and meta as the three discuss the anxiety of podcasting, research, vulnerability, nostalgia, and the creative processes behind their respective work. Sam floats a new show premise centered on nostalgia, prompting a playful in-episode "pilot" where the trio riffs on their own teenage years, the nature of nostalgia itself, and even cold-calls a video game retailer.
“I do wonder if the audience...will ever be like, ‘You guys had nothing today.’” —Kyle (08:32)
“The ultimate version...is that we are vulnerable about ourselves as performers and as humans. That could be rather endearing.” (34:17)
(43:23–63:22)
“I feel like nostalgia...aligns with the tropes of how people refer to millennials.” —Kyle (50:27)
“To be clear, that expert doesn’t play video games.” —Beck (57:53)
Throughout, the tone is leisurely, self-deprecating, and sincerely silly:
For listeners or curious newcomers, this episode offers a layered, inside-out look at podcast-making, creative anxiety, and why so many of us care so much about the shows, toys, and feelings of our youth.
Kyle on "not riffing":
“Sometimes the riffing is going to be whoa, and other times can be like, whoa.” (08:25)
Sam on research:
“The main thing I say, which you guys can totally steal...I tell every guest, if you start saying something and you don’t love how you’re saying it, just go back and say it the way you want to say it.” (29:18)
Beck on podcast meta-premise:
“On some level, it’s like a larger existential podcast—we don’t know what we’re doing.” (34:00)
Kyle on what makes the show work:
“The ultimate version...is that we are vulnerable about ourselves as performers and as humans.” (34:17)
Beck (wryly, on nostalgia):
“I’m just loving every moment. I’m doing the podcast with my man because I know about the divorce stuff and I feel bad for him.” (60:39)
Listen to "What's Our Podcast?" for a delightful, sometimes aimless, but always self-aware take on creativity, friendship, and why no one outgrows the things they loved growing up. Check out Sam Fragoso’s “Talk Easy” for a dose of careful, research-driven interview craft.