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This is a Headgun podcast. What's our podcast? What's it gonna be about? Tell us what's our podcast. What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle? Dude, we're back.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're back.
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Buck, buckle up your chair. You're going on the ride for the big roller coaster. It's fun to goof around with you.
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I don't know.
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I don't know what that voice was or what you're doing with your. Because it's like going. It's like sound that's coming out.
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Yeah, I didn't even know either. It's really, really hilarious. Thanks, Kyle. That's really, absolutely.
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Yeah, we're back.
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I can't even get through this. You're not even going to be able to get through the episode because you're laughing so hard.
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I'm Kyle Mooney.
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And I'm Beck Bennett.
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And you're listening to or watching what's our Podcast?
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Question mark?
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The show where we bring in a guest and they try to help us figure out what is our podcast.
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Because we don't know. We have no idea.
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Zero idea.
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We're like, let's have a podcast. We're like, wait, what is it about? Oh, crap, they're rolling. We have to start going and we don't even know what it's about. Your fake laugh is really, really evolved. It used to be a silent.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, that's. It can still be that.
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Yeah. It sort of depends on the situation.
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Yeah. Okay.
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That's sort of.
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Well, well. Okay, so buckle up. We're back. And yeah, this is our podcast. Kyle, how's your, how's your weekend?
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You know, I, I, I knew this, I knew this moment was coming where we'd sort of have to confront, you know, just the, like, what. How you doing?
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Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, sure.
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And I, and I wonder if I've already said this too many times on our podcast. Before I forget, we should also talk about the state of our podcast before we forget, before we bring on our guests. Yeah, I'm doing pretty well right now.
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Oh, except for that.
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Okay, so for those of you who can't.
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Yeah.
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Do you want to explain to the audience?
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So for those of you who can't see what happening, there's a little box on the microphones that says head them. And it just, it just fell off of Kyle's. It just came off.
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And I was maybe being a little, you know, touchy feely with the microphone, and I see why. Okay, I think I got it back on.
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Yeah. Good work, dude. That was scary. That was one of the scariest things I've ever seen.
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That was scary for you.
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Yeah.
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Well, I guess you've never seen Return of the Night Demon from Planet R.
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No, I haven't seen that.
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Because I made it up.
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Okay. That's actually the scary. That's actually the scariest place I've never been. Kyle's mind.
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Yeah.
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You might see something very creepy and very. Oh, stinky.
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Ew. Okay. What were you gonna say? We got it. We got our guests already here. So.
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My. My child, and forgive me for speaking about my kid. Like, I feel like that I saw somebody. I saw like some tick tock or like a Facebook reel video about like, I don't know. It was like the things that are the most. People are the most uninterested in. And it was like photos of your child and. Yeah. Talking about how your child. How good your child is at sports. Regardless, she didn't sleep well last night and woke up very early this morning. So, like, that sort of disrupts my day.
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Yeah. And that's rude of her.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And so. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. But that's, you know, that's.
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But I'm. I, you know, I feel my level of exhaustion is pretty fine, considering that.
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What time did she wake up?
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Well, also, Kate, actually, my wife actually woke up with her. That was like 5:30.
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Okay, so. So you're snoozing, you're just, you're just hanging out in bed. But.
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Well, no, I had to wake up in the middle of the night to hang with her. Yeah, we had to almost tag team because she came up, she got up multiple times.
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Got it.
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And then in the morning when she woke up at 5:30, like, I was. I knew I had to do this today and work a little. And so I was like hoping, okay, I'll get a couple more hours of sleep. But she was just very loud and very cranky, I think because she hadn't got any sleep. So I wasn't, I wasn't really resting in that period.
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Yeah. Well, I'm sorry. You look great. You sound great. You're with it. You always bring it. You always are the man. Thank you. And it's. We're going to have an awesome episode.
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Yeah. How are you doing, by the way?
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I'm doing okay. Yeah.
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He's come back with the voice.
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Yeah, no, I'm fine. I. Yeah. Dropped Ruby off at a. A summer camp thing. It's like a whole new place and it was. That's always Like Gary Farmer. Yeah. Not for him, for me. I'm like leaving you here. Are you gonna be sad or confused or not know what's happening or not know these people? But he was totally fine and started playing with one of his friends right away.
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And next week our kids start school. We're gonna be in the same class.
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Yeah. So maybe you should be room parents.
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I don't like to do the. I don't like to participate.
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Yeah, I don't either, but. But you know, sometimes it's good, you.
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Know, I get that.
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Build the community. You know what I mean? Okay.
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Okay, Just real quick, we'll go through the state of the podcast.
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Yeah.
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And then we'll bring on our guest.
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Who I'm very excited about.
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Yes.
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How are you feeling right now currently, about how we're doing on our podcast?
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Really bad. I think it's. I think it's a. It's a trash. It's a steaming pile of dooo.
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Okay. That I didn't know you felt.
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No, no, no. I actually think it's great. I. I'm having a great time. I think it's fun. I can tell from. I get the feeling from our wonderful producers, Casey and Anya. Woo. Woo. Give it up. Woo, woo, woo. Yeah. And from the guests experience that it's fun and different. It does make me a little uncomfortable sometimes, this whole getting a suggestion and rolling with it.
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Oh, sure. Yeah.
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What about you? How are you feeling?
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Feel good.
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Love this part of it. I enjoy just catching up with you. It's like, you know, I feel like you always have the weirdest. Just your perspective is so unique.
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Thank you so much.
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And then when we go, when I don't like doing the rest of the show.
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Oh, really?
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The guest and then the podcast within the podcast. I feel like if it was just this and it was just like 15 minutes, it would be so much easier.
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Oh, just 15 minutes. Yeah. We should try a couple of those. I was thinking that like maybe non guest episodes.
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Okay. If you're. Hey, Rocco's to our.
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Rocco's. Yes. Which is if you're just listening for the first time. That's what we call our fans.
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They're called the Rockos. For now, if you're interested in us doing from this point forward, just 15 minute episodes of Beck and I yapping it up, let us know and we'll stop doing the podcast the way we've been doing it up to this point.
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Yeah, yeah, that sounds great.
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And I feel like we're still trying to nail the podcast within the podcast.
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Part. Oh, yeah.
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And I. And we've talked about. Or we're completely doing away with the theme song in the podcast, but. Yeah, no, it's been. I think I was being a little silly. I do think it's been. I. I feel pretty good about what we've been doing.
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And.
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Yeah, it's always.
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Always just, like, such a. It's like you're, like, you're, like, on.
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The raft or in the river of. It's just an interesting.
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So wait, you're on the raft of the river?
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I.
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That's really.
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No, I feel like.
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I don't know if that's really appropriate.
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I feel like I put that the wrong way. I feel like I put that.
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Yeah, yeah. That was kind of. It's not really fair to our producer.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I feel like I put the. You're not on the raft or. Yeah, it's like you're in motion and the motion of the ocean.
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That's nice. Yeah, that's really interesting.
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And. And you keep running into a guy named Baylor.
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Well, I think we have to get to our guests, but that was really cool. And I'm glad that you're, you know, having fun and riding the waves, the.
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Motion of the ocean.
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You always make me laugh. It's always such a pleasure to see you.
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Hey, same right back at you, brother.
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Thanks, brother man. Okay. Our guest today is Skyler Gazando. I didn't know how to say his last name for a long time. I said, you're taking the reins. Yeah, I was in Superman with him. He's been acting since he was a little child. He's. He's an incredible actor. I was in Superman with him. Had so much fun with him. He's one of the most.
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Any movies with him or.
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Yeah, Superman.
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Okay.
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I was in Superman with him. We did. We did Superman together, and Superman just came out. I love Skyler. I mean, let's see what happens. I hope, like, we have an awesome time.
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It's guest time.
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Sometimes I got to talk to people about my problems. Because sometimes I show. I project this image of being all put together, but there are puzzle pieces inside of me that sometimes I still need to work on.
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And I love that you think that you project that image of being all together and because I actually think that about you.
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Oh, I thought you were gonna say the opposite. I love that you think that you're all together because to a lot of us, it seems like there's.
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It doesn't really. It seems like it's all unraveling, but it's all. It's all what matters inside your head. And I'm feeling good since therapy. I'm still in therapy anyway, but. Okay. But that doesn't mean you have to be forever, too. It's just kind of nice to have.
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Well, it's like, can I. Is it. Do you feel like this? Do you feel that? Like, it is. It is what's in your head? It's like sometimes, like, you yourself are telling yourself things that maybe may make you feel bad and they might not even be true. And it's sometimes good to talk out those thoughts. That's the way I feel.
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The negative stuff is never true. That's one. That's one of the things my therapist has helped me with.
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Yep.
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Visit hello Alma.com our podcast to get started and schedule a free consultation today. That's. Hello. A l, m a.com/o u r P O D C A, S, T. Kyle.
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You have gotten so good at spelling, dude.
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T H, A, N, K Y O.
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U. Oh, you're welcome. Good job, B. Oh, dude, the countdown is on. Holiday shopping season is officially here. Ding, ding, ding. That's my. Let the anxiety kick in. I always let it go till the last minute and I just. I'm like, what do I get? My Nona, it's always the thing. What does she want? But I'm coming. Yeah, my no is still around. She's still making all sorts of stuff and, like, making little.
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Yeah, but I lost my last one in the mid aughts.
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Ah, dang. I hate it when you lose A nona. But look, it's not about losing Nonus. It's about what you get known for Christmas or Hanukkah or any of the other stuff. The holiday season. So lucky all of us. Uncommon Goods takes the stress out of gifting with thousands of unique, high quality finds you won't see anywhere else. You hear that? Uncommon Goods. So like, it's not going to be like, oh, I got this, or I saw this. It's going to be Uncommon Goods and the only place you can get it is on the website. Okay. It's primo stuff and it's fast. They're high quality, unique, often handmade or made in the US So you can feel good about it. Many are crafted by independent artists and small businesses, making every gift feel meaningful and truly one of a kind. I'm like, what? Give me the Uncommon Goods right now.
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Dude, I was actually going to say the exact same thing. You know, I'm actually cruising through the website right now. They got garden tools, 3D wall art. That's going to be. That's going to be really cool. That could be some good.
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That's going to be great for. I mean, you might not be able to get a gift for your Nona, but you can at least get them for somebody. Somebody else's Nona.
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Yeah, it's okay that my Nona isn't around. Wouldn't get to get 3D art.
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It's fine. Yeah, but she would have loved Uncommon Goods. When you go to Uncommon Goods, you're supporting the artists, small independent businesses and it's like these small batches, like stuff for history buffs, football fans, mixologists, all this stuff. So look, with every purchase you make it Uncommon goods, they give $1 back to a non profit partner of your choice. Hear that? They've donated more than $3.1 million to date. I bet that's more than you've earned in your life. So just go to Uncommon Goods.
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Are you talking to me or to the listeners?
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To you, Kyle. No, I. No, I bet you made. I don't know how much you make.
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Dude, do you want to have a conversation offline?
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Yeah, it'd be nice to know.
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Okay, give me one second. Let's.
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Look, let's just put our personal issues to the side.
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Okay, well, what's the issue? What is your issue with how much?
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I don't. No, I don't have any issue. I want you to make as much money as you can. Okay? Okay. All right, look, I'm just trying to help the people out with the Holiday season, dude.
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By telling them how much I make or I've made.
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I don't know how much you make, dude.
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Okay? So don't wait. Cross those names off your list before the rush. To get 15 off your next gift, go to uncommongoods.com beckandkyle that's uncommongoods.com BeckandKyle for 15 off Uncommon Goods. We're all out of the ordinary.
A
Wow. Skyler is here in the studio.
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The gray shirt guys.
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The gray shirt guys, yes. And where is this from? Oh, this is really good info. What does it say? Am I. This is a new shirt.
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Yeah. Check your tag.
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This is. Oh. Shades of Gray by Micah Cohen.
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Wow.
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That's exactly it, right?
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Yeah.
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Very cool.
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You look great, man.
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Would love to get some free stuff.
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Shades of Gray, Local.
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Cloth maker. It's really nice stuff right down there at Highland park in downtown.
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Really cool.
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Yeah. What are you Snoopy?
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Is it Snoopy with the saxophone?
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That is. That's really cool, dude.
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There's Woodstock, too.
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Really cool.
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Woodstock. Yeah.
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$55,000.
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Yeah, I believe. Yeah.
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That's a lot. That's a lot. Now, Skyler, I saw you. I saw you on Saturday. We did a little intro.
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Yeah.
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Talked about Superman Screen.
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A screen or.
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No, for. For his birthday.
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Birthday party.
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Birthday party at his house. Oh.
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It was like, hey, guys, birthday party's about to start. Let's go ahead and get started with the birthday party.
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Wait, what?
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You just said you did an intro together, right?
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Wait, did I say that?
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Did I hear intro?
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Did I say producers? Did I say intro? I saw you on Saturday. We did a little intro. I thought I said, I'm excited to have Skyler here. I saw you on Saturday, which you.
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Were so nice to come to. We were talking. Cause I was telling you, Beck, I've never done a podcast.
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You've never done a podcast?
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Never done it.
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That's crazy.
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And so I was on Saturday, I was telling you, like, how I was spiraling, how nervous I was, how excited, and you're like, no, dude, you're gonna be great. And I was like, who's been doing it? What's kind of. How's it going? And Beck started telling me about, like, oh, the last guy was Marc Maron. And it was, like, beautiful and, like, emotional and funny and all of these things. And I was like, oh, dude. So the last guy was like, the godfather of podcast.
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Yeah.
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And one of, like, the smartest, funniest.
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Yeah, one of the best. And then it's best in the biz. And then Me and then Skyler. It's the perfect. It's the perfect connection. You guys are on the same level, really. Somebody who's basically created podcasting and somebody who's never done one.
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Yeah.
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You get your red.
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You're also doing perfectly. And already, like, I feel comfortable around you. And, and, and I want to apologize about the whole intro to the birthday party.
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Yeah. Because we know nobody heard intro. And then you were like, did anyone hear it?
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Nobody heard me intro. On Saturday we did an intro together.
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Yeah.
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Back. And I took it upon ourselves too. Yeah, we were doing our own intros.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did little intros.
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It is a good. It is a good concept to have in the back of your mind, though, like intros to parties.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, hey guys, party's about to get started, so if you want to grab your cups now. We're going to get. We're going to get started in about two minutes. It's party time almost.
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Yeah, no, that I. I think you should do that at your next party.
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Okay.
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You were talking. That came alone.
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That came alone.
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And we were talking about just the psychology of come going, how scary it can be.
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Yes. I was scared. I got very scared. I like. Because it was, it was across town. Yeah. And I'm like, it had been a while since I'd been to a house party and I realized, like, we don't share, like any friends.
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No connective tissue.
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And I. No connective tissue. I went by myself. I'm like, I'm going into this house party. You're 29 and your friends around the same age. I would imagine. So it's like young, younger people. I'm like, I'm a 40 year old man walking in like by myself. I was like, I'm gonna be standing there on my phone with nobody to talk to. I was like walking by outside and being like, I don't know if I can go in. And then I texted some other cast, Anthony and Isabella, and they were like, we're in here. And so I went in and had a great time.
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It was, it was so nice of you to come. I was so good to see you. I'm so happy you, you, you came in.
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Yeah, man.
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I did get back in the car.
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I know, I know it was close. I like, I went back and was like, no, I can't drive all this way, 45 minutes and then not come in and then see you on Monday and be like, hey, I came to your birthday party. I walked around outside and I didn't Come in. Like, I was like, I thought that counts. Yeah. I didn't walk in.
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But you being there with the rest. Cause there's a few people from Superman there. And the best part, like, walking around, like, most of my friends are not actors or in the industry. I was walking through the party and everyone was just whispering about the cast of Super. Like. And like, I kind of, like, get back. And like, then I was like, guys, you know, I'm in the movie too. The cast of Superman. Like, no one's ever in my life. And like, I can't believe. But because the three of them were.
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There, they couldn't believe it.
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It's the cast of Superman.
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Yeah. That's so funny.
B
I want to know about. I want some behind the scene tea. You guys shot in. Was that Atlanta?
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Supes tea?
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Yeah, Supes tea. We shot in Atlanta, in Macon. What was the Trilith and then Cleveland.
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How. How much hang time outside of shooting was there?
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Quite a bit, I would say, because we also got down there a week early because we were on weather cover. So we were, like, ready to go in case, you know, it rained and they needed to move inside to shoot the Daily Planet. So we were there, like, for a week, right?
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Yeah.
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And we were, like, hanging out, getting dinner every night. Every dude, everybody was hanging out.
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That's very.
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Yeah, it was so sweet. It was like summer camp from the first day. There was no. Like, with a big cast, like, naturally. Usually people section off and like, there's different group. It was one group chat, like, every night. We were always. You couldn't. Like, it was the most inclusive and fun. And I've told. Fun. I've said in other interviews, but, like, the best night with Beck, I don't know, like, what. Where the idea started, but he got us all tickets to a wrestling thing in Macon, Georgia.
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Yeah. An amateur wrestling event. Or maybe it was somewhat pro, like Class C or. I don't. I don't know what it was, but it was like a touring show. And I was just like, walking around Macon and I saw that there was going to be a wrestling match. I was like, we gotta go.
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That was one of the first things we all did. And I think. I don't. Yes. I don't know. Same. What tier? I would imagine whatever's under wwe. Like, the feeder league into that. This was maybe the thing that feeds into the thing that feeds into the. But for that reason, I feel like there was even more carnage than wwe. And it was so immersive. We were like. We constituted like Half of the entire crowd, our group, it was in, like, a pact.
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No, no.
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And then it was unclear who was in on it and who was just, like a Macon resident.
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Right. Because there was like. There was like, this. All right. That lady who was yelling.
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Holding a baby.
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Holding a baby and screaming. Screaming, like, really intensely. Whether it was a bit or not having the baby there was questionable for sure. I don't know much.
B
Do you recall.
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Yeah.
B
Any of the names of the wrestlers or, like, thematically, what they represented or anything like that?
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I gotta say. No. No, I don't remember any of them.
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There's just bodies hitting the floor.
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Yeah. A lot of slapping.
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Brainiac or something.
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There was. There were no smart wrestlers. There were definitely some showboaters.
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Yeah.
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Like, but. And there was, like, maybe a couple teams. There were two teams. Yeah.
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Tag team.
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But we were. We were blown away. We. It was like, really intense for us. And then we showed James, like, video of it, and he was like, oh, that's nothing. He's like, they're not even cutting them, so they're not even bleeding.
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Yeah, he was.
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He was like, oh, this is nothing. Cause he, like, really knows the. The wrestling world. And he said it didn't really stack up, but we were having a blast. But I was telling Kyle before you came in here, and I've told you many times that Skyler's one of the best people in the world. And I.
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He keeps on saying, and I'm such a fan.
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Sweetest guy.
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You're so great.
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Such a good actor.
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Righteous gemstones.
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Thanks, man.
B
How is that? How so? That's in South Carolina.
C
I got. Dude, this is so talking to you. Beck knows. But you being with you two, good neighbor stuff was so. Dude, growing up, it was so formative. You got, like, literally 90 of, like, the. The general just voice of me and my friends growing up was just the stuff that.
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Yeah.
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You guys were doing. It's why I wanted to do a. Just because I. I love Beck and I. It's mutual. But then also I was like, oh, my God, the idea of sitting here with you guys and doing this, totally surreal, man. So thanks for having me.
B
Forgive me. I. We were handed these biographies from our wonderful producers and did I see.
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And we do a lot of research, too.
C
Yeah.
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Really a lot of preparation.
B
I don't want to be wrong here. So you were born in Florida? Born in Florida and then came to la.
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Moved to LA when I was six. Yeah. I've distanced myself from the Florida association. I feel like we get a weird Bad rap. But it can be a beautiful state. So pretty. Yeah, there's cool things going on there.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Born in Florida and then my dad had. My parents are oceanic engineers. They do like like offshore marine construction kind of stuff.
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So cool.
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And my dad had a project in Hermosa beach and we all sort of came, me and my sisters, as like a family trip, like a vacation. And his project kept getting delayed and postponed. And I had been like obsessed with movies. I would just like watch the same things over and over and I had been bit natural. I started so young. Most people's question is like, did your folks want you to get into it? And like, truthfully not, no. I was this little maniac and I just like relentlessly like, how can I do this? Can you let me do this, please? And so while we were in la, my mom sent some photos to some agencies and I went on an audition and that was kind of the beginning of it, man. And then we all. We loved la. We stayed here and we never left.
B
And I've gotta know about this promposal. Oh yeah, also, are you getting asked this sort of. Are these the. Is this rote now?
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Not for cause that was so long ago, but it's been coming up again.
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My sister in law sent me the video last night and we had talked about it. But has that been online or is it like circulating now? Posts.
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I've not seen it. I just know it was like 12 years ago.
C
I was in Night at the Museum 3. I played Ben Stiller's son and I was a senior in high school and I wasn't gonna be back in time to give my girlfriend at the time enough time to ask her to prom. So I had to figure something out while we were on location. So I wrote like a little one page skit that would have made for like a 20 second video like tops and involved Ben and Robin and Chris Williams. Robin Williams and Crystal the capuchin. This monkey who was in the movie who's like the Meryl Streep of animal actors.
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She's just like famous.
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The thing about Crystal is so good. She's like the most hangover. Like her credits for Never Ending. And then the second best behind her is her brother Squirt. Squirt, Squirt. And he's like the second best in the business by far. But Crystal is so good. Yeah, that next to her, Squirt like.
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Anytime with a name like Squirt too. It's like Crystal is up here.
C
Squirt, you're kind of, you Know what's coming. And on some of those longer days where Crystal just, like, tired out and they'd have to bring in Squirt. It was like, dude, like, Squirt. Like, he's not getting it.
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Like, he's gonna talk to us about the weekend. He's gonna. He's not gonna have his line. He's gonna be, like, goofing around.
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Converse.
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What's that?
B
You could talk to people?
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I assume so. I don't know. They're working monkeys. I just figured they'd be able to talk. I don't know.
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Right.
C
You know what's crazy? Crystal, you could talk to, like, a person and she wouldn't even get, like, commands. Like, Tom, who worked with her, would just be like, crystal, would you grab that? And like, it was insane. But anyway, the promposal. So I wrote this little, like, one page skit, and I took it to Ben and Rob and I asked them if they would do it. They both said yes. And then we were just gonna shoot it, like, on a phone, but Ben was like, no, no, let's, like, let's set it up. And he got our cinematographer. And, like, all of a sudden, the whole crew gathered, and it ended up like the second we started, of course, like, the script went out the window. And Ben was Ben and Robin was Robin. And it was like three minutes long. And I went over.
A
Yeah, it's so funny. It's.
B
I have to see this now. Was any part of you like. Well, actually, guys, no.
A
That's.
B
That's not. That's not what it says.
A
There's a moment where, like, Robin is doing, like, like, a Jewish voice. Yeah. Like an old Jewish woman or something. Or, like. And you're like, yeah, we don't really sound like that.
C
Guys. I really worked on the script.
A
Yeah.
C
How was.
B
How was the actual. I'm assuming you got a yes. And how was the actual prom experience, if you feel comfortable talking about it?
C
Oh, totally. It was great. And also the other thing is, I had. Yeah. They. The video. I walked over to my mom after we finished the video, and I said, that was the, like, the coolest thing that's ever happened. I was just floating. And then for prom, I had a. Like, we had to get tickets for this bus, and my mom kept telling me to, like, wait. And I was like, mom, I gotta do it. Like, it's coming up. And she was trying for whatever reason, and then eventually she had to tell me. Like, Ben had gotten. He wanted it to be a surprise, but he got, like, a limo for me and my friends for prom.
A
Oh, my God.
C
So we're like, this limo for. It was awesome.
A
So sick. I mean, like, was it, like. Were you kind of. Was that. That. I would imagine that after that, like, your reputation at school, like, you were. You were kind of on fire. People were like, look at this video.
C
You know what, man?
A
Skyler got a limo from Ben Stiller. Like, totally.
C
You would have thought, man. But, like, no, I had go. I started. I was homeschooled when I started acting as a kid. I was homeschooled for, like, 10 years.
A
Yeah.
C
And then I started high school in, like, 10th grade. And you. Whatever social currency.
A
So you started going to school in 10th grade?
C
Yeah, late. I was. Lately. And so whatever social currency you had in adult world of, like, growing up, it didn't really transfer. Like. Like being in, like, Night at the Museum. Three Secret of the Tomb.
A
Yeah.
C
Wasn't cool for some reason to these other, like. I don't know what would have been at the time.
B
Fucking shit.
C
But.
A
So they're fucking losers. What are they doing right now?
C
Shawn Levy. It's guys.
A
But they.
C
They don't. Yeah. No, man. So, like, my friends and I had a great time, but it. Nobody was like, oh, dude, that's right.
A
That's. That's the guy who did the video. The promposal, the. Yeah, yeah. People didn't care.
C
And now, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure maybe we can cut it. If not. It's not, like, out out yet, but, like, the. I think it's. The press release will be out soon, but the re. The reason the video is coming up again is because I'm about to play Ben's son again. So that's like. I think it's why it's been coming up again.
A
I saw that congratulations in the new Meet the Parents.
C
Yeah.
A
What is it? Do you know what it's called?
C
Focker in Law.
A
So you're lucky. Yes, dude. Yes. You still got it. Dude, I was talking about. Kyle didn't get a lot of sleep last night because his daughter woke up. But, like, coming in. Coming in with stuff like that. Dude, the. Wait, what did you say again?
C
You.
B
You lucky motherfucker.
A
Yeah. That's your phone. You're blazing, dude.
B
I'm feeling like I'm blazing.
A
You're absolutely on fire.
B
I like to be blazing.
A
But that. That is so fun. Those movies are so funny. Are you actually a fucker?
C
Are you actually a fucker? I'm a Focker. I'm Ben's son. And so. And the movie is like, I play Ariana Grande is like my. We're together.
A
Okay.
B
And I'd be like, this is. We're getting some exclusives.
A
Yes. Yeah. Well, you mentioned this at the party and I was like, so you. Yeah, you guys were together.
C
And then it got like, leaked. Like, something got tweeted. And the first. First comment, my friend sent it to me was like, from an Ariana Grande fan account. It just said, why won't they ever put her with somebody hot?
A
But I.
C
Listen, man, I get it.
B
First of all, you're very.
A
Now you're with Ariana Grande and the Fockers, and you're an absolute Riz God. Right?
C
Yeah.
A
Riz God and Superman. All the girls love you.
C
Thanks, man. My mom said happening.
A
You're blossoming.
C
Thank you.
A
Having your.
C
Yeah, my mom sent me that article and she's very. Seriously. She said, is this good?
A
Yeah.
C
And I called her. I was like, yeah. So I was walking her through what a Rizz God was.
A
It was kind of new to me. I didn't really know of. Of Riz God or Riz or Riz.
C
Oh, yeah, yeah.
A
What that is same thing until that article came out.
C
Yeah.
B
You and your buddies don't talk about Riz.
C
I keep asking them to. I've been for years asking them to call me the Riz God. And they haven't done it.
B
So you actually have known a lot about Riz.
C
I've been. I've been working on this.
A
Well, so you said this work has paid off.
C
It's paid off. That's great. Yeah.
A
I got to start doing that. I thought it was just kind of something that happened to you. I didn't know that I could. My ring.
C
And you got a campaign for it.
B
You can plant a seated for anything. Anything you want, if you want to be like king of donkeys or something.
C
Huh. Okay.
B
So you can kind of. Anything that you like, you want to seek out.
A
Is that something that you've thought about doing? Being the king of donkeys? That wouldn't be too bad. All the donkeys under my control. Yeah. No, I've never thought about that.
B
It's actually not as easy. You think South Carolina.
A
It's not actually an easy thing to be the king of donkeys.
C
So that.
B
What a. What a cast in South Carolina. Yeah, man, that would be that to me, from far away feels like the. The same way you're talking about Atlanta shooting Superman, it seems like. I bet you guys get to spend some fun time together. And riff and.
C
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't want to.
A
I'm.
B
I feel like now I'm projecting and what if they losing my king of donkey status?
C
No, dude, it was.
B
No, no, no.
C
No one's saying that, man.
A
Oh, cool.
B
Cool, cool, cool.
C
And, yeah, that is, like. That's a total golden ticket. Kind of like Danny McBride is like, he's the coolest guy in the world. He's like. He's the man as advertised. And what they've built, it's so special what they've done because it's like him and kind of all his best buddies who have been making stuff together for so long. And so there's just a general vibe on that. Anything they're doing of, like, it feels very familial from the very beginning. And, yeah, that was such. I mean, it was four years, like, half the year in Charleston, South Carolina, which is, like, such a great town. And everyone got so close and. Yeah, that was a great, great ride, man. I'm sad that it's over.
A
Yeah. Yeah. I love that show so much.
C
Thanks, man.
B
What was your first acting role?
C
The first role was the first audition, which was I met a couple of these agencies, and one of them was like, okay, well, all of our kids who we represent are going on this Pizza Hut commercial audition across town. Why don't you go? So my mom took me, and back then it was like cutthroat, man. It was like they had 100 kids there, and they wanted to find the kid by the end of the day. So if they liked you, they'd be like, go outside and tell your mommy to wait. Don't go home yet. So you have half the kids coming out, heads held high, and half of them just dejected, just smoking, coming out of the room. It's time to wrap it up.
B
Damn.
C
And so we wait. And by the end of the day, they were like, it's. It's my first audition. And I got it. It was this Pizza Hut commercial. And it was incredible, the whole thing. I also had this speech impediment at the time. I couldn't pronounce my R's. So the whole premise of the commercial was like, I'm at my friend's house. I'm supposed to leave before dinner, but they're having Pizza Hut for dinner. So I wanna compliment the mom and say whatever I can to get her to let me stay for dinner. So they gave me a list of once they loved the speech impediment thing and leaned into it. So on set, they just gave me a list of words on a napkin with ours and them to compliment her. So you really kept hearing me.
A
Oh, my God, that's so adorable. Is that online? Can we. Can we look that up afterwards?
C
I don't know, man. I've seen it floating around. I don't know. Yeah, it was that. So is that. In the beginning, there was a lot of commercials, a lot of, like, small parts and TV shows. And then, like, just this very gradual thing.
A
And when you. You said you were watching a lot of movies at the time and just like, wanting to be a part of that world.
C
Yeah.
A
What were you watching when you were, like, that age?
C
I was obsessed with. My parents were out of town, and my uncle showed me Happy Gilmore. And that was like. I would just do the whole weirdly Happy Gilmore and West side Story, where, for whatever reason, love west side Story.
A
It's so good. We just got a. Like, a vintage. Like a Japanese promotional poster from, like, the 70s or something.
C
No way.
A
Oh, dude put it up in our house, so that's pretty cool. That is cool.
B
No, that's sick.
A
Love that movie.
C
Me too, man. Me too. And I saw my. My uncle showed me that movie. And then my. My parents got back to town and they took me to the park or something, and I started, like, recreating the scene from Happy Gilmore. Apparently, like, I draw. I was, like, yelling at, like, a ball in the. And they were like. And I also. Another, like, I had the speech impediment. I couldn't pronounce my Fs. So you know that scene where he's like, that's your fucking home ball. I was, like, on the ground at like, 6, yelling like, that's your slugging home ball. Like, getting that. My mom was like, what the fuck's going on? And then she called my uncle. And then one of the first things I got when I started acting, I was like, seven. So I was obsessed with Abby Gilmore. I'd watched it a hundred times. I booked this thing where I was playing Andy Richter's nephew in, like, a live. It was the comedy awards on Comedy Central. And so Andy Richter was, like, present. He was hosting. And there was these skits built into the presentations over the course of the night. And so I got, like, all of these people were there, and Adam Sandler was there, and I met him, and he took me under his wing all night. And it was just this totally surreal, you know, it's like I just started acting, and all of a sudden, here's my hero. And, of course, he was the nicest guy in the world.
A
Yeah.
C
That's so cool. And he won the award for funniest voice in Eight Crazy Nights. And he signed the poster and gave it to me and gave me the award he won or something.
A
Really? Yeah, dude. I was incred. That's insane. He's so sweet. He's just like the most.
C
The sweetest guy in the world.
A
Sweetest guy in the world.
B
There are two line deliveries in the original Happy Gilmore that I really, really love. I don't know if. I don't know if either of.
A
I think I know which one you're thinking of, cuz.
B
Okay, do you want to guess or do I me.
A
You say it. You say it because.
B
Okay, well, my two favorites are Happy Look, I. Yeah, that's one of them.
A
Do you know that one?
C
It's been so long since I've seen it that.
B
Oh, that's right as. I think it's towards the end of the movie and Joe Flaherty is driving a car that's about to hit him.
A
Or does it hit the.
B
It ends up hitting like a tower, right?
A
And it kind of falls and a guy falls off of it. Yeah. And then I really, like Julie Bowen yells that.
B
Yeah, what is the. The other one is happy. The gold jacket's yours. Shooter's gonna choke.
A
Yeah. And he like kind of steps out and then he steps back and he nods. And it's just like this random dude. Yeah. Yeah, it's great.
B
It's a really good delivery.
A
Really good deliveries in that movie now with. I don't. I don't know exactly what this question is, but you've been acting for a long time, and after, like Superman coming out and you're about to go, you know, shoot.
B
Fuck around.
A
Fuck around with the Foggers. Like, is this. Is it, like, normal to you? You know what I mean? Are you like, oh, yeah, it's work, and I'm used to this and like doing press and all this. Or is it like, whoa, this is. You know, do you get excited by it? You know, because the longer we all do this, it's like, it. It is work and it's. And it's great and it's fun, but it's exhausting. You know what I mean? Like, is it. I'm just curious. What. What? I guess maybe this moment is like for you. Yeah.
C
Yeah, man, totally. I was just talking about this. It. It does. Like, there's. So. You spend so long where it's just like anything. Any opportunity you get, it is. You're so excited. It's just. Yes. It's like, if they're gonna give me the opportunity to do it, then I can. And then, like, yeah, now there's more of getting the job. Isn't the rather. Yet you're excited. But also the thought process is beginning immediately of, like, I know, like, the stakes here, like, I understand, like, I want to be worthy of the moment and I want to do a good job in this thing. And, like, it does become. It's so exciting. But it is work, ultimately, and it is new. It's always evolving. But the Superman stuff obviously, is like, for so long, you're working and everything kind of feels like you don't really have a sense of any of it being connected. Like, you don't feel that momentum.
A
You know, you shoot it like a year ago, and then it comes out.
C
It comes out, you do something and you try to, you know, do a good job. And maybe you do, and that's great. And then you don't work for a few months and then another thing or maybe longer, and then another thing comes along. And like, I just. From such a young age, I had. I thought, like, this is what I want to do. But then you start to get older and like, 18, 19, 20, like, 20 is going by and you're like, oh, can I. Is this, like, can I do this as a livelihood? Like, I've always just said in an abstract way, like, oh, well, this is what I'm going to do.
A
Right. It goes away for. It comes and goes.
B
Goes away.
C
It comes back, and you start to get a sense of, like, oh, man, there's a lot of people who are really good who, like, don't work all the time and who also just, like me, thought they would do this. And, like, is there a world where I'm not doing this, or do I need to. So those gears are starting to turn. And then Superman. It's like, you don't really, you know, if you have an opportunity like that once in a lifetime where it's like, usually you're making stuff and you're like, I hope people see this and connect with it. You don't really know, but going into a movie where you're like, I know this will be the most watched. This will be the number one movie when it comes out, and it will be the most. The most watched thing I've ever. So, like, the stakes that come with that and the sense of responsibility to get it right.
A
Exactly.
C
And there's a sense of you always in the back of your head that Little voice, you're like, I believe I can do this. I think I can do this. But then the second the world's like, you can do it, you're like, more than ever. You're like, wait, can I do it right? Right?
A
Oh, like, I don't know. Yeah.
C
Ye of freak it out. And so, yeah, the last, like, honestly since the movie came out and now that the last few weeks it's been a whirlwind of like that. Yeah. I have been like, I always just thought I would do this and I love doing it. But now that like, it's really, really happening in a way that like, on a scale, it hasn't happened before. It's kind of scary, man.
A
Is it?
C
You know, rather than like, I remember watching the movie at the premiere and it wasn't like, I wasn't thinking like.
A
Ah, like, yeah, me neither.
C
Right? Yeah, I was kind of thinking like, oh my God, like, like, it start. Here we go. Like, it's, in many ways it feels like it's just beginning. I, I. Because had you waited to the premiere to see the movie?
A
I saw it at the like a marketing screening before you had seen it. Yeah. And like, and there was like, I don't know, there's. You're just. For me, it's, it's hard. Like, I, I love the movie and I'm happy with my performance and everything, but it is so funny. Thank you, buddy. But like, it's a year and a half of like, what is this gonna be? You know, like, oh, I'm in Superman. And you're just like, get excited. And it's like, and it's great. But then it's like, okay, there it is. And then there's that like a little bit of. Not like a letdown, but just like the, it's like, okay, it's out. And the buildup, the anticipation just goes away. And you're like, okay, it was great. Yeah, that's what it was. It was great and it was awesome. And the best part was being there and shooting it and doing it. You know what I mean? Yeah. But yeah, it is sort of wild to be on that roller coaster and then be like, oh, yeah, okay, what now? You know?
C
Right?
A
Okay.
C
Cause that's friends in this very sweet, well intentioned way. Every. All my people in my life, they're seeing Superman and people who kind of like, especially if you're not in the industry, it's hard to decipher like, how well someone's doing, you know? Cause no one watches everything. Even if it feels like, internally, like, I don't know. In the industry, it feels like, oh, I'm on this cool thing. Like, most people aren't seeing it, but then you do something like Superman. And everyone in my life has been like, oh, dude, like, you made it. Like, congrats. And you're like, oh, it doesn't really.
A
I don't think.
C
Like, I mean, I don't. I don't feel that switch in my. There is no. And I don't know if you'll ever feel that, because I've worked with actors who, you know, from my perspective, are, like, so successful and been working forever and been like, what's next for you after this, man? And they're like, I don't know, like. And you're like, what do you. What do you. Like, you're.
A
You.
C
You've been doing this for, like, 30 years, but they genuinely still feel that way of, like, I don't know. I got nothing lined up. Like, hopefully this works.
A
So you're working for the rest of your life. You're the golden ticket. Skyler Gazando.
C
Thanks, man.
B
You're is God.
A
You're a Riz. God.
C
Thank you.
A
And you are so good as Jimmy Olsen. It's such a great performance.
C
Thanks, man.
A
Yeah, it's. It's. You're wonderful.
C
Coming from the King of donkeys himself, that's a great deal.
A
Yeah.
B
You know you're the king of Donkeys.
A
Yeah, I'm the king of donkeys now. You heard it.
B
No.
A
Yeah. Sorry, dude. He's kind of the king of Donkeys, but if it's I'm the king of Donkeys, then I'm getting a King of.
C
Donkeys vibe from you.
B
I believe it, and I'm with it. I support it.
A
That's sweet, you guys. Also, what was the name of your character in Licorice Pizza?
C
Lance.
A
Lance. Yes. So funny. I love Lance so much. I want Lance to have his own movie. I really think that that could be a spinoff.
C
PTA's big on spinoffs.
A
Pitch it to him. I mean, I'm sure he'd be down.
C
He's always doing reboots.
A
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Building out the universes of his own movies.
C
Ip, he likes IP a lot.
A
He loves that stuff.
B
I'm trying to. It's been a while since I've seen it. That character is like a child performer.
C
Yeah. He's like a kid actor and. Yeah. But he's, like, really kind of feeling himself in the movie.
A
Suave.
B
Yeah.
C
He's like a very successful Kid actor. And he's. Yeah, that was. I remember auditioning for that. And obviously you're like, freaking out. It's like a Paul Thomas Anderson movie. It's, you know, like you just. It doesn't even seem within the realm of possibility you'll ever find yourself in that universe. And then you're like sending in an audition. And I remember he. He FaceTimed me to like, I was pretty sure he was gonna, like, offer me the role. I wasn't sure. Sure. And on that phone call, he was like, by the way, do you play piano? And I don't. And without missing a beat, I said, oh, sure. I've been playing my entire life.
A
Wow.
C
Not even. Yeah, Like, I like, oh, yeah, man.
A
Yeah.
C
I don't know. And the second it was out of my mouth, I was like, now's the time. If there ever. It's now or never to be like, I don't know why I said that. On second thought, not really. Because he goes, oh, great. Well, then it'll be, you're gonna play. When we meet your character, you're playing Scott Joplin's the Entertainer on piano. It'll be easy for you to brush up on, I'm sure. And I was like, okay, great. And we hung up. And I listened to the song. And it's insane. It's an insane song to play. And I thought, if it was any other director.
A
Terrifying.
C
Terrifying. If it was any other director, I would have immediately called and been like, dude, you know what? Maybe let's have a contingency plan, like, in case, for whatever reason, I'm stumbling through it. But I was just. There's no world in which I'm gonna call him and say, I just lied now on the phone. So I had like two and a half months. And I just thought, oh, this will be my job. And I found a guy on YouTube. Cause they don't read music. But there was a guy who had made like 4 hour long videos dedicated to each section of that song with a camera over his hands on the piano. And I just thought, like, I'm not working. This will be my full time. And I played, I'm not kidding, like six hours a day, every day. Waking up in cold sweats every night. Like, I still can't. At some point I'm gonna have to call him if I don't have it by a certain point. And then I'd say, like a week before the scene was the first time I was like, I'm gonna be able to do it.
A
I think that's insane.
C
And we did it and it went great. And people on set were like, man, you're really shredding like that. I was like, thank you. And then in ADR a few months later, we were on the call again. Cause he was walking me through the scene. I was like, how's the movie looking, man? He's like, oh, it looks great. We cut the piano stuff, but everything else looks really good.
A
Oh, my God.
C
And I never told him. I was like, oh, right on. Okay, man. He goes, yeah, it wasn't working, but the rest looks great. I was like, good, good. And that was that. That was the edit.
A
That's incredible. That's so ballsy that you were like, yeah, been playing my whole life.
C
I think he.
A
And then you made it work and then it was cut. Now it's out there. He's gonna find out now.
C
I know, but that's cool.
A
It's so much better than you just being like, yeah, I did play. And then the scene got cut.
C
It got. Yeah. And there's a scene in the movie where the main character, Cooper's telling. Alana's telling Cooper. One of the characters is telling the other before they meet with the casting director. Whatever they ask, just say yes. And there's literally a scene where they're like, fencing. He's like, yeah, like horseback riding. He's like, uh huh. And so I'm sure Paul knows somewhere that he's like, every actor's gonna lie about things. And I think actors, they really think they could do it. There's this insane delusional thing of, like, I could figure it out. Archery.
A
That's part of the craft. That's it.
C
It's craft. It's the craft. I'll get really good at that in two months.
A
That's wild.
B
Do you think if you were put in front of a piano today, you could play the Entertainer?
C
Dude, do you know what sucks is at the very least, I thought, oh, it's cut from the movie. I'll have this great party trick where I could sit down and play this insane. It was like cramming for a test where I cannot play five seconds of the song. I can't.
A
You can't play anything. I can't play at it.
C
It's gone.
A
Totally gone. It's just totally gone now. I didn't know before getting ready for this episode that you are in probably all of the space Bud or no Air Bud movies.
C
Thank you, man. I've been looking to talk about.
A
We have never discussed this. You're in all of them, Right.
C
Air buddies, Space buddies, Santa Buddies, Treasure Buddies, and Spooky Buddies.
A
Spooky Buddies, Yeah.
B
I don't think I've ever seen any of them. I want to check them.
A
You're very much up your alley, though.
B
I know. I bet I would love them. Have you been consistently playing one air buddy throughout, or do you play multiple air buddies?
C
I was B dog in all of them. Who's like the basketball dog and then in one. I don't know whose decision this was, but in one of the movies, I'm like, the lead kid. Like the actual live action kid.
A
Yeah.
C
Oh, wow. And I'm the voice of B Dog. And my character, B Dog is my dog. So it's me talking. And then I wasn't like, I was like 10 years old. I wasn't, like, changing my voice up a lot. So it's me being like, B Dog, what do you think? And me being like, that's Crackalackin, yo.
A
Oh, my God. And what number was that? Because that was later in it.
C
Right deep. Obviously deep.
A
That was six. Five or six.
C
That was five or six.
A
You're gonna be playing multiple. They kind of. What is that? Eddie Murphy and the clump. You kind of went clump style on that airbud. So they were like, they went all in on you in that franchise.
C
Yeah, they were all in.
A
Was it fun to do?
B
Was that one of those things where you kind of had to, like, spend a couple months learning how to be a dog?
C
Yeah, I really immersed myself in that. And licorice pizza, I would say, were the most demanding.
A
That's great.
C
I really took. Yeah. At some point, I stopped speaking. I said, I'll just be with the dogs, and I won't speak, I won't use language, and whatever it takes to inhabit this character. Dude, thank you, man.
A
Six.
C
Thank you.
A
Six flicks, dude.
C
Thank you, man.
B
B Dog.
C
B Dog.
A
B Dog. And now do you surf every day?
C
I, I, I mean, yeah, I, I surf at. Not less now, but at one point, yeah, like, almost. I was in the water four or five days a week, I'd say.
B
Do you have favorite beaches?
C
All? Yeah, all in the. In the summer. I mean, it depends on, like, the swell direction. And most any spot in Malibu in the summer is great. First point, like Point Doom county line. And then in the winter, like, we get a lot more north swells. So I'll drive up to Rincon a lot different parts of which is in Ventura or, like C Street.
B
And what time are you waking up to get to.
C
Get out there, you know, that's the one thing I'm not. I never. I just. I have a hard time waking up early, man. So part of the great thing about waking up early is usually the wind hasn't picked up yet, and you beat the crowds. But I've made peace with just surfing, windblown, choppy surf, because it's. If I have a buddy who's really hammering me to get up, I'll. I'll do it. But I have a hard time. I struggle with. I struggle with the waking up, man.
A
Yeah, it's not fun.
C
It's not fun.
A
It's really nice to slay. Stay. Stay cozy and sleepy in your bed.
C
Love staying cozy. And I love being on the water at sunset, so I'll surf. I'll do. And sometimes the wind randomly dies late in the day, so if you're not out there first thing, sometimes end of the day can be really nice, too.
A
That's cool.
C
Yeah.
A
Do you ever get in any, like, fights with surfers or, like, I've heard.
B
Are you. Are you a local?
C
I don't know if I have lo dog status anywhere, man.
A
Is that a real phrase or is that just something that came. You came up with right now?
C
I don't know. I thought it would sound cool. It might be a phrase.
B
D. Dog.
A
Sky. Dog.
C
Sky dog.
A
Donkey. King dog.
C
No, I don't think I do. Because I don't. Yeah, you. You do get, like. Especially where I grew up. This. The spot. El Porto. Like, if you go on YouTube, there's just all these, like, videos of fights in the parking lot.
A
Yeah.
C
And what's crazy is. Yeah, it's. I go to surf to, like, you know, it's so meditative and therapeutic that the idea of getting in the water with that energy. I have not been in too many situations like that because I'm just, you know, I sort of, like, very. I'll defer. Like, and I just, like.
A
You haven't, like, accidentally taken somebody's wave and then they're like, what the fuck, dude?
C
I did have one. The farther north you go, and the less crowded it gets, the more local stuff you run into. And I. Yeah, there's been one time, like, a dude paddled up and he was like, I've never seen you before in my life, dude. And I was like, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's allowed. I haven't seen you. Yeah. He's like, where you from? I was like, not from around here. He's like, I thought so. And I was like, yeah, I'm sorry, man, but I'm just real, like, I'm not looking to escalate.
A
And he was that. It was. He like, get out of the water.
C
Yeah, like, you just get out of the water if there's a guy like that, because people are weird. And, like, you never know. It is at First Point Malibu, which is. It's anarchy out there. And there's a lot of fights, and there's a lot of stuff. One of my favorite. My favorite is just overhearing the other fights, and one time this guy who's just being, like, real mean, and he, like, dropped it on this. This woman who was, like, very nice. And she just started, like, rightfully, like, you know, being like, hey, that's not right. I think she was out there with her kid or something. Da, da, da, da, da. And the guy just goes, hey, lady. And he, like, yells it across the lineup. He goes, why don't you go to www.sh.com and like, yeah, yeah. And I. And then. And then I think he. What's weird is, like, she kept talking and he doubled. I don't know if he thought it was good or he just wanted to get another one out, but five minutes later, he said, hey, lady, why don't you try going to www.shutit.com? and. And I was like, no, I think we got. I think we got it the first time. And I think he thought it was so strong that. To do it twice.
B
Right?
C
Yeah, that was a really good.
B
He punched it a little bit.
A
He punched it. I'd say it was stronger the second time. Sure is a little. It's, like, too quick to really get it to that.
C
I think he felt that. He's like, I'm gonna try it again.
A
This is gonna kill. I got it now.
C
So my friends to this day still, when we're surfing, sometimes say that to each other, like, hey, buddy, that's cool. Get on the computer.
A
Www open that laptop.
B
Shh.com.
C
Yeah.
A
Well, I think it's come time in the podcast for you to tell us what you think our podcast should be about. So. Okay.
C
I was very nervous. I wasn't sure I wanted. I wasn't sure I understood the tone and structure.
A
We' figuring it out.
B
No, nobody feels. Because this. This isn't out there in the world yet. I feel like nobody's confident at this part, so there's no way to screw it up. Really?
A
Yeah.
C
Okay, so I wrote down, you got pitches, I got pitches. Do you want me to go do one at a Time. Or do you want me to give you the whole gauntlet and then.
A
Oh, good question.
C
O.
B
That is a really good gauntlet because maybe we might spend too much time if we go one by one.
A
Yeah, yeah.
C
I'll lay them all out and then we can circle back and see what.
A
How many do we have? Have, like, 11. Great. Yeah, let's, let's, let's hear them.
B
Is there, before we go into it, is there one that you're, like, very passionate about? Like, oh, I hope they pick this one. Or do you feel pretty equal about all of them?
C
I think I feel equal. And I, I, I, I'll leave it to you guys to cool. Okay. Disc golf, fast casual dining, backgammon, Going to parties alone. Swimming, white lies, catan, spike ball, vulnerability, surfing and basketball.
B
Catan is settlers.
C
Settlers of catan.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay, can you do it one more time and slow down the pace?
A
I think I've got white lies.
B
Okay, wait, can I hear one more time?
A
Yeah, yeah.
C
Surfing, basketball, disc golf, fast casual, dining, backgammon. Going to parties alone. Swimming, white lies, catan, spike ball, vulnerability. I read this to my friend right before I came in here. He's like, that is your life. And, like, 12, 11 words.
A
Those are the elements of Skyler.
C
Yeah, we gotta.
B
We got a buddy who loves spike ball.
A
Yeah, we do. I got a spike ball set, and it's just sat in my backyard. And I kind of realized that, like, most, most adults, like, when you're kind of 40, they're like, it's hot, it's sunny. I don't want to do that. I would rather sit in the shade or, like, sit in the pool.
C
Yeah.
A
Like in a backyard on the weekend. Nobody wants to play spike ball. But I like vulnerability. I like fast casual dining.
C
Okay.
A
I like surfing, going to parties alone. Any. Any standout to you.
B
I like those fast casual dining I love. But I also wonder, are we, like, encroaching on, like, doughboys territory?
A
Sure. Well, we got a lot of options, so we can get back up.
C
Spike.
B
I. Spike lies is really fascinating to me too.
A
I like white lies.
C
Okay. Yes. The spikeball thing. I long ago made peace with the fact that I wasn't gonna, like, achieve greatness athletically in any conventional kind of sport. And I relegated myself to being like, okay, I'll play, like, these kind of barbecue sports, like, these ones on the margin. And when spike ball was new and my friend and I one summer got just really what we thought was we got filthy at it. We thought we were, like, really good. We Never met anyone who could beat us because it was so new. And so we entered a tournament. Like, we were like, we should really like test this out. And we, we went to Santa Monica PIER at like 6am in the morning and we were like, let's see where we're at with this. And we had never lost. And the first match of the day we were playing these two like 40 year old dudes who had flown in from Vancouver who were wearing matching kits, like jerseys. And dude, I don't think we got a point off of them. We got worked so badly and it was. And they didn't even do well in the tournament. They went on to lose in like the next round. But it was just, it was like, oh, even this, even this corner that we thought we found something like something we may be truly great at.
A
Right? Like maybe. Yeah. Not enough people are involved. We can be at the top of it and no, still. You know what I really love about that's heartbreaking.
B
I'm sorry.
A
Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
C
Thank you.
A
Sorry about your loss.
C
Thanks. Thank you.
B
But it seems like in your world you're stall your bro. You're still a star, like in our.
C
Little corner of it.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
I love what I love about spike ball. I've only played a couple times.
A
I think we're almost doing the.
C
I know.
B
I feel like we'll have wrapped pretty much the spikeball stuff by the end of. So I don't know that we should do. So the listeners are kind of getting the spike ball.
A
Yeah, we're getting a little bit of a spike ball.
B
What I like about it, and I mean this, I hope in a non offensive way to the creators of spike ball, but it is a game that it's like, well, I could have invented.
C
This.
B
But I didn't.
A
You didn't.
B
Absolutely. And I do have so much admiration for folks who are like just coming up with stuff that. That becomes universal. It's really, it's really incredible.
A
That hits the zeitgeist. Yeah.
B
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
A
Yeah. I love.
B
That's all I want to do.
A
All I want to do is hit that Superman, boys.
B
You guys.
A
Yes.
B
You guys did it.
A
We did it.
C
We did it, dude.
A
Just the two of us. All right. We got.
C
I'm like the weird one.
B
Yeah.
A
King of the donkeys over here. They don't cast King of the donkeys.
B
Are they king again?
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We figured we'd let you be donkeys again. Okay, what do we think?
B
Do you have surfing, Basketball? White lies, Vulnerability Going to a party's alone.
C
Backgammon.
B
Backgammon. I can't do backgammon. I won't have much to say about it.
C
Okay.
B
To be honest.
A
Do you want to pick one? Do you want to have these guys pick one? I don't. I don't know.
B
Oh, sure.
A
White Lies.
B
All right.
C
We're doing White Lies.
B
White Lies. Hey, everybody, we're gonna go be doing White Lies.
A
Check it out.
C
What's up, everybody?
B
Kyle Mooney here.
A
That's kind of a weird funk on that mic.
C
Whoa. I guess the show has started, folks.
A
Yeah. Buckle up and make sure you're buckled into your seats. Yeah. Because here with another episode of White Lies. Yeah.
B
What's going on, man?
C
Yeah.
B
Hey. You said what?
A
I didn't say anything at all. Really not. I did. Sorry. Another white lie. What's.
B
What's the. Is your name.
A
Braggy?
B
Braggy.
A
No, no, it's back. Obviously, my name is back. That was a little while. My name's actually not Braggy. It's Beck, as always. And we are. And I'm here with. What's your name?
B
Well, I introduced myself.
A
And what's your name, though?
B
Kyle Mooney. Yeah. The lune. The lunae.
A
We're here with our incredible guest, Larry. Larry the Cable Guy. No, I'm kidding. That was another white lie.
B
That's a white lie.
A
No, it's not Larry the Cable Guy. It's not Larry the Cable Guy. It's our good friend Skyler Gozzando. Ew.
C
Thank you. Thank you for having me, guys.
B
So great to have you on our show.
A
Skyler and I just had the. Do people often get your last name? Do they say it wrong a lot? I said it wrong for a long time.
C
I've accepted it on this. No one's ever said it as much as they have. Like now with the press, stuff from Superman and Cassando is getting said a lot.
A
Yeah.
C
And I've just accepted my fate. It's too late that I think the trains on the tracks.
A
So I'm saying it wrong.
C
Well, it's just Sando.
A
See, I was saying chisando forever. Were you really? And then I heard something like, I saw somebody on a show say gozondo, Right? And I was like, I've been getting it wrong. And I think it was like, something where they were like, we're here with Skyler Gozando, and you were sitting there, and I was like, oh, I guess that's how you say it.
C
I just roll with it. It's like anytime I say Even Skyler. Anytime I meet anybody over 70 and introduce myself, they're immediately like, all right, Scott, good to meet you, man. And I'm like, it can be Scott. It doesn't matter that much.
A
Yeah.
B
I have a question.
C
Yeah.
B
In that situation where this person says, scott, hey, yeah, nice to meet you, Scott. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you participating in a white lie?
C
Wow, great segue. Good. You know what you are. Because it's the same. I feel like for me, the white lie thing is it always stems from a people pleasing thing where you're like, I don't wanna. And even that small moment of being like, it's actually this.
A
Right.
C
I just don't know. I can't come to terms with doing that in a way that's like, it doesn't feel necessary.
B
It feels like it's gonna cause more trouble.
A
Yeah.
B
It's confrontational.
C
It's confrontational. But you're gonna get into a fist fight. What's the next thing?
A
But even though there's an element where it's like, oh, I'm trying to help them out, I don't want them to think wrong name. I want to, like, correct them and give them. Right. The right information. But it never comes across that way. It's always, it's like, it's the same thing. When I will say, my son's name is Ruby.
B
Yep.
A
Or like, like his name. What's, oh, what's their name? Ruby. Oh, she's so cute.
C
Or.
A
And I'll be like, how old is she? Truly? He's three. Oh, so sorry. And it's like, it's fine. I don't care. But it's, you get.
B
My daughter gets misgendered all of the time. And I don't, I just start. I typically. You don't. Yep. Bees. I, I, I just stopped referring to her as a girl. I don't even want to get into.
A
I know, I know.
B
I have done it. I have been on the other side of it and done it. And I did feel guilt.
A
Yeah.
B
And I don't want to necessarily put somebody through that experience.
C
I've had whole conversations with people where, and this has happened a lot where people come up to me. They'll be like, millers. Or like. And this has been happening for like 10 years.
A
Yeah.
C
I, I was in a movie called Vacation that came out the same year as were the Millers.
A
Yeah.
C
And both are like family road trip comedies.
A
They're very, very similar. Like, similar tonally.
C
Ed Helms is in both of them.
A
Right.
C
And Vacation, like, Did okay. Where the Millers did, like, really great. And both. Both. So Will Poulter, who's in where the Millers, he and I are both. And I'm in Vacation. We're both playing like the nerdy, awkward son kind of guy. So it's like similar characters, similar movies, similar times, and it's been happening for so long. And I used to be like, oh, no, you're thinking of. And I've just stopped doing that. And I've had a whole conversation with people answering questions about how filming was.
A
Wow.
C
And I just. I'm like, that's points where I'm like, oh, I need to. This is. I need to get on the rails here. This is crazy. I'm too complicit now. And I don't. I've answered questions for Will Poulter that I hope I've answered well.
A
Yeah.
C
And I've always wondered if he. If people come up to him and go like, vacation.
A
Right.
C
But I doubt it.
B
I believe he also sort of embraces that he looks like the bad guy from Toy Story.
C
Yes. At the time, he and I, I can see how people might have thought we looked alike, but now he's like, jacked and like six two. He's in like, war movie. I don't know how anyone would ever make the mistake now, but I see how 10 years ago.
A
10 years ago. Do you all.
B
I'm curious about where everybody falls on this, and I would love to have a conversation about it.
A
No, I don't think we have time for that. Oh, it's all good. Are you.
B
Was that a white lie?
A
Yeah, that was a white li. Dude, of course. I was just messing around with you. I was white lying.
C
What about.
B
And I think. I think this falls underneath the white lie umbrella, which. Which in the back of a taxi, an Uber or a lift. And you're asked, what do you do for a living?
A
Yeah.
B
How do you.
C
What do you.
B
How do you respond?
C
Typically, you know what? Recently I used to. I feel like there's this like, self imposed exile thing. I used to make it awkward by being like, now I'm just like, anytime. Anyway, I kind of just say I'm like, oh, I'm an actor. And if they're like, oh, from what? I'm like, from this. And it's kind of like become a fun thing where you get to see people like, oh, no way. And you have like a real. That's the one place where I've started. I used to, like, not want to get into it. So I'D be like, I do this, or I'm a student or whatever. But now it leads to, like, really fun conversations. And also, like, one of the most fun things about what we do, especially a movie like Superman, is how it means so much to people, how excited they are to talk about it, to see. So people are like, whoa. And now more than ever, it's, like, really fun to be like, this is. I do that.
A
Yeah. I might try that because I'm White lion in that situation.
C
Yeah, right.
B
And what's your lie?
A
I think I will often I've said I'm a comedy writer. Like, I write comics. Whatever. I'll say, like, I have a sketch group. Or like, I like, maybe I've said, like, I work in advertising and I, like, write ads and stuff like that.
B
Yeah.
C
Have they ever pushed it?
B
Have they.
C
Like, what are they?
A
Like, where have you written? And it's like. It's like, I'll be like, just kind of like YouTube.
B
What's the name of your boss?
A
What do you do?
B
I mostly answer the same way you do. I'll say actor, but I'm always. I, like, I'm immediately nervous when the question comes.
C
Yeah, yeah.
B
And I'll say it. And then almost inevitably, I think that it's touching upon 100% of the time if they're asking you what you do for a living, if you say actor, they will ask you what have you been in? And what I struggle with in answering that question is that, like, to me, the most obvious thing I've been in, I think, would be Saturday Night Live. And that show is so. Is ubiquitous and pretty iconic to a point that, like, they're likely going to be aware of it, but it immediately means they're aware of something but not aware of me. Does that make any sense? So, like, there is. It feels. Yeah, a little. I. I feel. It feels a little. I don't say belittling, but I just. I. I feel a little embarrassed. You know what I mean? Like, because, like, so now I have to be like, like, well, I was on Saturday Night Live. Okay.
C
Yeah.
B
Look, haven't watched in a while. Typically, a lot of. It's like, haven't watched in a while.
A
Because I haven't watched in a while. Yeah, I don't really like the new cast. I. I like the Will Ferrell. Like. Yeah, like, that's when it was funny. Like, yeah, great. Thank you. Yeah. Apologize that they haven't been watching. And it's like, it's okay. Yeah, totally fine.
C
You know, for me, for A long time. I lived in that. And I still. Still do. But, like, people, they know. They know you, but they don't know from what, or they think they know you personally from their lives. And I remember I used to white lie more. Cause people would be like, do I know you? And I'd be like, oh, yeah. They'd be like, did we, like, play. Did you play, like, pickup soccer? And I would just be like, maybe we'll figure it out. But a friend was like, dude, you are elongating these interactions and making them awkwarder and weirder by white lying. By trying to make. So they were like, you should just come out. This was years ago. And I was like, okay. And it had been happening more and more often. I was like, the next time someone comes up to me and says, do I know you? I'm just gonna. I'll come right out with it. And this girl came up to me, I don't know where. She was like, hey, I know you. And I went, yeah, I'm an actor. And she went, no, you know my friend Sarah. And I did know her friend Sarah.
A
I did know her friend Sarah.
C
And I was like, dude, this is why you don't. This is why you do the other dis come out.
B
Yeah, you might.
A
From a. You don't.
B
Well, it is that time of the show, I believe, where we talk about our. Our craziest white lies.
A
Oh, yeah. I love this part of the show. I got. I got one. Wait. And now we. I just want to say we all know what white lies are, right.
B
There's also part of the show where we remind people we define a white lie.
A
It's like a little lie. Yeah, it's like, not that bad.
B
I know that it is a tough thing to sort of. I guess. Yeah.
A
Can we see. Can we get our producers of the white lies in terms of, like, where.
B
What. What is the. When have you overstepped the bounds between white lie and straight up lie?
C
Yeah, that. Yeah.
B
What is.
C
For us, it's a harmless or trivial lie, especially one told to avoid hurting someone's feelings.
A
There we go.
B
You know what? I. I feel like I'm. I have a. I have a white lie in my head, but one that I feel like I do consistently is, like, at so many, like, restaurants when, like, something is not fully to my liking. Just like, how's everybody. How's everybody doing over here? Great. Like, I feel like I constantly am saying, great.
A
Yeah, you're.
B
I think you're good about being like, this is a little.
A
I feel like, you can give it at a restaurant. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I used to.
B
More.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah, maybe more.
C
You?
A
Not anymore. I don't do that.
C
Yeah.
A
Yeah, Me. No, no, I do do that. See, that's a white lie.
C
Oh. Oh, cool. You're good about. You feel like you can convey your honest feelings to.
A
At a restaurant. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. I guess. But I'm. I feel like I haven't done it in a while.
B
I had a. My.
A
Maybe it's part of like.
B
Like, my wife and I had a. We went to a restaurant a couple months ago.
A
This.
B
Is this. The fact that I'm launched. I'm already spending too much time on this story for what? It's.
A
It's already too much time. Yes. Then you've just. You just said, I went to a restaurant.
B
There's nothing. There's gonna be exciting about the outcome.
A
Real app or a fake?
B
I'm being. Trying to be real for once.
A
Okay, great.
B
Like, Skyler's like, just, like. Just be honest.
A
I know. And honestly, he's so charismatic. You're like, I don't want to be like this guy.
B
You know, it's like you only get. You get. You get out of the house only so often, right. When you have a child. And there's this restaurant I wanted to go to, and we went to it. We actually might have been with our child, but. But I was like, they got Mai Tais here. And I was like, how? I rarely find myself in a situation where I can get a Mai Tai, like a tiki bar or something like that. This is not a tiki bar. Yeah, but we.
A
I.
B
We ordered the food. I was like, oh, we'll have two Mai Tais. We were both pretty excited about the Mai Tais.
A
Oh, yeah. And here we go.
C
Buckle up. Yeah, you are.
B
You are not gonna believe where we're headed. Oh, yeah. And several.
A
A lot.
B
Several minutes pass. A long time has passed, and our waiter comes back, and I'm like, oh, you know what? So we haven't. We haven't gotten the Mai Tais yet. And he's like, oh, I'll. I'll go ahead and check on those. He comes back five minutes later. So this has probably been. I'm gonna say I've been waiting 12 to 15 minutes for these Mai Tais. Comes back, hands the Mai ties, is like, yeah, I guess the bartender just sort of left. He's not there. So I went ahead and made these Mai Tais for you. I was like, oh, thank you. Oh, great.
A
Thank you. We were really looking forward to him.
B
And he walks away. And we try these Mai tais and these. Well, they were bad.
A
Like, so bad you couldn't drink them.
B
So bad they couldn't drink them. And, like, Kate, like, would not. She had a sip and was like, oh, God. I was like, like, I'm paying for the Mai Tai. I'm, like, trying. I'm going to try to get as far into this Mai Tai as I can. And he came by and, like, definitely noticed that Kate hadn't drinking much of my. How are the Mai tais? These are really good.
A
Yeah. Yeah. That's.
C
That's it.
A
That's it.
C
That's it. That is a.
B
A white lie. We've already described over the course of this.
C
But the alternative to me is unthinkable. And my mom is. She does that. My sister and I, we went to get lunch with my mom, and the service was, to her credit, like, very, very slow and not great. And, like, a thing was wrong. It wasn't crowded, but we waited a long time. And my mom was like, I don't. I'm not gonna tip her. You know, the usual 20%. She was. But I don't want her to think, you know, I'm not a cheap person. I don't like doing. I want to. I'm gonna explain to her. My sister and I immediately like, no, man. No man. We will leave. Do not just normal to do 20%. Let's go. It's all good.
A
And if you're gonna not do 20%, you don't have to walk the waiter through that.
C
Yeah, you don't.
A
You don't have to sit down and tell them why.
C
But in my mom, she. She's really. That it's different for. She was like a cocktail waitress. And she's like, I would want to know if I could how I help her out. And she, like, is so open to that. So she started doing my sister and I book it just out of fear and. But she, like, had. They had a great conversation. My mom explained, like, what she was disappointed with. Over the course of the day, the.
B
Conversation took fully did it.
C
And now the two of them are like this. And my mom still goes back all the time.
A
Wow.
C
And, like, tip's great. And every time I go with her, the woman, like, lights up. She's like, so. I think she was so grateful for.
A
Like, we're afraid of this connection. And what were.
B
Do you remember what the notes were? I mean, besides, it was just that it was slow.
C
We'd have to get stace. On here.
A
Yeah.
C
We'd have to hear Stacey. Yeah.
B
Okay. Should we call her up?
C
All right.
B
We've done it before.
A
Yeah. We called Stace before on this show. Yeah.
B
That's a little white lie. Oops.
C
I could never conceive of doing that. I never ate right. Someone could spit in the food, and I'd be like, man, it's great.
A
Thank you. Yeah.
C
I just grateful to be here.
B
Yeah. Absolutely grateful for this meal. Just take a. I think.
A
Yeah. It's been a while since I've come.
C
All over the food.
A
I'm sorry.
B
Good to me.
A
Wait, so wait, who's coming all over the food?
B
Everybody at the restaurant.
A
Everybody's just kind of doing the.
B
Jerking it on the food. I'm like, yep, looks good. I'm like, dude, I wish they wouldn't jerk in them.
A
But you're like, yeah, I love it. It's yummy. Really good.
B
This is how I like it.
C
It's like.
B
And they're getting encouraged. They're like, oh, he really likes. Because I'm like, no, it's great.
C
But it's like, I don't want you coming.
A
That is the craziest way live, for sure. That. That is. I don't think I'm gonna have a white lie that tops well. That is.
B
Yeah, it's a. It's a white. White topping on my. On my. On my cacio e pepe.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. Well.
A
I. I don't think we all got around to saying our craziest white lies, but typically, for me, white lie is typically a compliment.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, and it's. We get put in that position a lot, like.
B
Yeah. How do I look?
A
Amazing. I really like your shirt.
B
Your jaw clenched when you said it.
A
No. You look so good. It's so you. It's great.
B
Do you think I should have worn. Should I dressed up?
A
No, honestly, I want to get more shirts like you. I'm start copying you.
B
You really like it.
A
I actually do really like it.
B
Yeah.
A
That was genuine.
C
And for our listeners.
B
He's sorry he sticking his tongue out.
A
Cookie face. Yeah, he was.
C
It's that thing of your friends in something. Yeah. How you're not gonna tell your friend. Like, I thought it could have been. But then the thing is, we all know that. And if we're like, with my. I know none of my friends are gonna tell me if they thought I wasn't good in something, and I wish they would.
A
Yeah.
C
But then again, it's like, I don't know where we even start to make that A reality. It's too painful.
A
Right. And then they're the one person that did it. And you're like, they said that. Like, I guess I'm gonna be honest with you. Like, it would do something. It would. It would. It would change something. Whenever people are setting.
C
Whenever people are. I meet. Whoops. When I. When I meet people who are that way, where they're 100% authentic and they don't give you, you know, these kinds.
A
Of like, yes, absolutely.
C
They're just like, stoic.
A
They're no. There's no people pleasing elements for them at all.
C
And they don't like nothing. Give you nothing unearned. I always find that so, like, it's like, so such a relief. I'm like, you're giving me permission to be the same with you. And now we can both get on that wavelength. And for a working relationship, it's like the best thing.
A
It is.
C
Yeah.
A
I felt like when we were. It is nice when you're working with people and they're not complimenting the best. It's like, great. We're all just like, here, working. We're all. We all trust that we can all handle this. Like, there's not a problem. You know what I mean? But when people are like, that was great. Then it's like, oh, well, like, yeah. And then you get caught up in that and you can just start, well, we've.
B
I feel like we've had this conversation recently. You can start gauging the sort of veracity of the compliment. Like, oh, well, yesterday you said that was amazing, and today you're saying it's really great. Like, so something, something. There is a difference, friends.
A
Yeah. Yeah. It's a good out.
C
If you don't want a white lie, whenever anyone, like, asks how is. You can just go, and I've done this. I'll just go, dude.
A
Dude.
C
And that there's something in the silence of, like, I don't even have that.
A
Like, I can't.
C
It is beyond. Let's not even get started.
A
My pasta.
B
Dude.
A
Dude.
B
Or is that the end or no, I guess.
C
Did you enjoy us coming in your pasta?
B
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, dude.
A
I think that's. I think that's a perfect note to end our podcast on. And so I. I think after our conversation, I'm gonna say yes to white lies. They make life easier. I'm gonna keep doing them. Every now and then, though. I'm gonna push through that to see if I can have a moment of connection with somebody, a stranger.
C
We. We find. We draw maybe we draw lines in people coming in our pasta and in.
A
Those moments you draw little lines in it, doodle in the. And we say, I love it. Well, thank you so much for being here and talking about white lies. You know, what was that?
B
The white lies. Pointer fingers. Thanks for listening, guys.
A
Yeah, thanks for listening. Yeah, thanks for listening. Okay, so that was.
C
Wow.
A
White lies.
B
I gotta say, Skyler, we've. This is. I thought we're around. We're. We're. We've almost done, let's say 12 of these in total.
C
The.
B
The podcast within a podcast. The podcast that people come to pitch. They can, they can be. They're always fun or they're typically fun.
A
Yeah.
B
They could be hit and miss. But that I feel like would be a. It feel. That felt listenable to me.
A
Yeah.
B
And I, I mean, I wonder, I don't. I wonder if you could stretch it across, like, if you could actually make a whole season of that, maybe it'd have to be a little more of like, what was your white lie this week? Or something like that. Because I feel like we did a great job of touching upon some really generalized white lies that we all experience on a day to day.
C
Totally. Yeah. You could bring something new to it every week. I feel like it has legs.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
I like the pizza stuff too. Or the cacio e pepe stuff.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
The juicing on the.
C
It became, it was, it was a, initially a white lie. It felt like it became a jizz podcast.
A
Yeah.
B
But like, that's. I like those sort of. I like those sort of things where it's like, okay, you know, we have this general conceit, but you could sort of fuck around. And like, that's kind of. When I, When I started talking about the cum stuff, I was like, where's this gonna go? You know, what are people gonna do?
A
If you didn't know if it was gonna work, it could have been really embarrassing for you.
B
But it's actually pretty cool because I gotta be honest, I had the imagery in my head of like, oh, well, somebody's walking to my table. And I was like, yeah, I'm interested in that. I'm interested in talking about it.
C
So that's not really the element of it.
A
Right.
B
That's more like the buddies, like kind of the rapport. Yeah. Weird.
A
I think being honest about white lies allowed that to come out.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
It's a doorway into really interesting conversations. White lies.
A
It was a little scary too, at first, you know, White lies. You're talking about how you lie. Is that. Is that bad? But they're white lies.
C
Yeah.
A
So they're just polite.
C
Yeah.
A
And I really do think that they're. It's kind of. They're kind of a. Kind of a. I hate to say it. I don't. I don't. Just cuz it's a weird word. Social lubricant.
C
Wow.
B
Yeah, I didn't think that was coming out of you.
A
Yeah, that it did come out of me.
C
You're saying the white lie itself is a social lubricant for sure.
A
You're just like, making it all smooth. You're not like, going like, no, it's a boy or no, my name's not Scooge.
C
Right.
A
You know, and like, Scooch is fine. Yeah. But you.
C
Do you like Scooge?
B
Huge. Dude.
A
Dude. Yeah, it really. It makes life easier.
C
Yeah. The world's built on him.
A
Yeah, it really is.
B
They make the world a social lubricant.
A
Yeah.
B
I've never heard you use that phrase.
A
Yeah, me neither. I think I started using it all the time.
B
I liked what you did with it.
A
Thanks, dude.
B
Can I ask if the answer is no? That's fully all good. Of the other podcast pitches, was there. Was there something like, ooh, I could talk about? Is there something that you're like, oh, I wouldn't love to have talked about us or mention this?
C
I think you got a testament to the program here. You guys zeroed in on probably the most solid one, I think the other. I pitched disc golf because I felt like that's maybe a space that's not being serviced in the podcast community, which could be a good, you know, good breakout point for you guys with this.
A
Yeah.
C
But also it just. I. That was born out of like, you know, in your. In my 20s, in between projects, lot of free time, and I've really been exploring, like, man, how can I be more productive with this time? How can I make it more meaningful? I gotta start doing stuff that's not centered around me. And that moment began when I was alone on a disc golf course in Culver City where I was just like, I'd not been working for months and I was just like, trying stuff, doing stuff. I was like, I'll disc golf. And I'd gone with the buddy a couple times and it was fun but still social. But he couldn't go that time. So I went alone to Kenneth Hahn disc golf course in Culver City. And I was like, standing alone on this course and it really just dawned on me, like. Like, I gotta I gotta figure some stuff out. I can't be. I can't be a. Like, I'm.
B
It's.
C
It's 1pm On a Wednesday, and I'm.
B
It's interesting because it could have gone either way. I thought you could have. You could have said, like, oh, it was so nice to have a hobby and to like, kind of. But I have surfing or something.
A
But I do. I do feel like with. With disc golf, like, it makes sense that you had that moment. I think a lot of people have that moment on the disc golf course. Cause it's not like, you know, golf, regular golf, tennis is something you could do. Your whole. There's, like, different. There's social circles built around it. But I feel like disc golf is a young person's game, and at some point you're like, you're playing disc golf, maybe smoking weed, whatever, and you're like, I gotta stop doing this. I don't know. I think people grow out of it. I played it a lot growing up.
C
Did you really?
A
Yeah.
B
Can I just pitch if that. I don't think we're ever gonna make that as a podcast. And I'm really happy we ended up on White Lies, but I do think I have a good title for that podcast.
A
What?
B
Disc Golf? Disc Course.
C
Oh, dude. Dude, no, that was. That was serious, though. No, that's terrific.
A
Yeah, that's terrific.
C
That alone makes me want to see that. I figured it'd be a travesty not to do that podcast.
A
I mean, Headgum has room, I think, for more podcasts. You can maybe do that.
C
Disc golf discourse. I'm in, man.
B
All right, cool.
A
Yeah. And that was not a white luck now. It was great having you here. Maybe we'll do the White Lies again. Maybe we'll make that a segment. Is there anything you want to plug or some. That's what we do in this part of the show, right? Yeah, anything you want to plug.
C
I mean, not.
A
I mean, like, Superman's out.
C
Superman's out.
A
Anything coming out in the fall? Because this will probably air, what, September, October?
C
I don't. You know, it's like, yeah, Halloween or something. There's nothing.
B
Do you know what you're going to dress up as for Halloween?
C
For Halloween?
A
Yeah, dude.
C
Every year, for every year, my girlfriend and I put together a big. We dream big. And then we both really are. We struggle with execution, and it's a panic day of. We end up doing something really underwhelming. But I'd love to put some real thought into it this year. We have a. We. I got to check our. We have a shared doc of.
A
Oh, that's nice.
B
That's good prep.
A
That's responsible.
C
Yeah. Do you have. What are you guys thinking? Do you know?
A
We do. We do family costumes now. So, like, last year was Winnie the Pooh, and this year, I think is going to be Paw Patrol. We're all going to pick a character.
C
Really cute.
A
Yeah, yeah, very cute. Very cute stuff I had.
C
I remember one. You know that critical year where I feel like when you're a kid, there's a lot of years where you dress, like, you really lean into it and you do something cute or cool or scary. Like, you know, like eight night till you want to be scary. And then there's that, like, year around, like, 12 or 13 where everyone's suddenly too cool to, like, and everyone just dresses, like, ironically or funny. And it's like, not really. I. Again, I was homeschooled, and I, like, kind of missed the memo on that. And for, like, four years in a row as a kid, I had been, like, the Dark Jester. And it was this, like, black and white checkered thing with a mask with, like, a dagger and, like, bells and the thing that is. And I. I'd been. I really liked it. It had been successful for me. And I was going, like. It was my first time going to, like, kind of a part, like a Halloween party, I think I was, like, 12, and my mom dropped me off in my Dark Jester outfit.
A
They were.
C
There was some kid at my friend's house alone, alone. And everyone, like, every guy was just, like, in a T shirt. And all the girls. It was like, the first year, they were being, like, trying to be, like, kind of, like, hot.
A
Yeah.
C
So they were like bumblebees or, like, cats. And I was really. I like, 15 in white lie moment. I was like, I think my mom's calling me. And I called her. I was like, will you pick me up? And I went home.
A
And you got out?
C
Yeah.
A
Did anybody make fun of you or.
C
Like, no one had to say anything. I got out of the car and they were all like, oh, cool, man. I was like, oh, dude, I blew it.
A
You really went for it. What's going on at home? You okay? Yeah.
C
Maybe I bring that back this year. Dark Jester, full circle moment.
A
I really think you should. I think this will be coming out around Halloween, and people are gonna hear this, and they're gonna want to see your Dark Jester. I would love to see it.
C
Thank you, man.
A
Yeah.
C
Thank you.
A
Thank you for being here. This was so fun, guys.
C
Thank you for having me. This was a dream.
A
You're the best.
C
Cheers. Really appreciate it.
B
Than.
A
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Episode: Skyler Gisondo
Date: November 5, 2025
Host: Headgum
In this lively and offbeat episode, Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney—longtime friends, collaborators, and SNL alumni—invite actor Skyler Gisondo onto the show. The podcast's recurring conceit is on full display: Beck and Kyle don’t know what their podcast is about, so each guest is tasked with pitching ideas and, in this episode, participating in a “podcast-within-a-podcast” based on their favorite concept. The three dive into Skyler’s acting origins, behind-the-scenes stories from "Superman," life as a working actor, the intricacies of white lies, and plenty of comedic tangents. The tone is loose, self-deprecating, and packed with authentic, meandering humor.
A playful exploration of “white lies” in daily life—why we tell them, where the line is, and whether they’re truly harmless.
| Segment Description | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------------|------------| | Catching up and podcast state of the union | 00:00–09:40| | Introducing Skyler & birthday party anxiety | 09:41–19:54| | Behind the Scenes of “Superman” and camaraderie | 19:55–32:51| | Hollywood anecdotes & promposal | 32:53–36:49| | Navigating fame and self-doubt | 36:53–42:03| | Licorice Pizza, lying for roles | 42:13–46:31| | Filmography: Air Buddies, Surfing, Disc Golf | 46:43–54:01| | Podcast pitch gauntlet | 52:13–57:27| | Podcast-within-a-podcast: White Lies | 57:28–79:37| | Reflection, remaining pitches, costume talk | 79:38–85:30|
This episode is a blend of warm camaraderie, vulnerable industry insights, and flat-out silly digressions—perfect for fans of unscripted comedy and those interested in the idiosyncrasies of life as a working actor. Skyler Gisondo proves a game and charming guest, and the trio’s meditation on “white lies” evolves from gentle conversational therapy into earnest (and often ridiculous) confessions on the value and pitfalls of fibs in social life. Though the podcast-within-a-podcast may just be a bit, “White Lies” unexpectedly feels like a show you’d want to hear again.