Paul Napper and Anthony Rao want people to take back control of their lives. They want people to recognize the power of agency. This week, they talk to Mike about their personal jumps and about how agency and jumping intersect.You can find out more about the book The Power of Agency here: PowerofAgency.com. You can also listen to Paul and Anthony on the "Better at Everything" podcast here: apple.co/2WD5MJw--Buy the When To Jump paperback here: amazon.comFor more great stories from Macmillan Podcasts, subscribe to our newsletter at bit.ly/mpnnewsletter.