Where Everybody Knows Your Name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson (sometimes)
Episode: Brett Goldstein
Release Date: June 11, 2025

Introduction

Ted Danson welcomes listeners to the podcast and introduces the episode's guest, Brett Goldstein, a multifaceted talent known for his role as Roy Kent in "Ted Lasso", as well as his work as a stand-up comedian, podcaster, and playwright. Ted expresses his excitement about Brett's new HBO Max stand-up special, "The Second Best Night of Your Life".

Tribute to George Wendt

Early in the conversation, the hosts pay tribute to the late George Wendt, a beloved actor from "Cheers".

• Brett Goldstein [03:04]: "I'm very sorry for your loss. He was, I know, from Jason, all wonderful stories, but he was also individually so lovely to all of us at Ted Lasso."

• Ted Danson [03:57]: "I have a big old hole, and I haven't started to process it. I feel totally complete with George, so I don't have any regrets."

They reminisce about George's kindness and his impact on both their lives and careers, highlighting his generosity and the joy he brought to those around him.

Brett Goldstein's Career and Stand-Up

Brett shares insights into his career trajectory, emphasizing his journey from acting to writing and stand-up comedy.

• Brett Goldstein [26:33]: "Before any kind of performance, acting, writing, what were you doing? How old were you when you went, oh, wait a minute?"

He discusses his early passion for storytelling, influenced by his parents, and his initial forays into acting with roles like a suspected pedophile in "The Bill". Brett highlights how stand-up comedy transformed his career, allowing him to break away from stereotypical roles based on his appearance.

• Brett Goldstein [28:10]: "I started stand up, and everything changed. Before that, I was always getting auditions for terrorists because of my face."

Ted praises Brett's stand-up, expressing his desire to watch it together.

• Ted Danson [06:12]: "My dream would be to sit next to you, literally, and watch it together and do a running commentary on it. It is just wonderful."

Discussion on Fame and Public Perception

The conversation delves into the complexities of fame, especially transitioning from a cult classic like "Cheers" to contemporary success with "Ted Lasso".

• Brett Goldstein [13:52]: "It was very surreal. Our whole world changed kind of overnight because it was like the last time I went outside, people didn't stare."

They discuss how sudden recognition can be overwhelming and the challenges of maintaining one's identity amidst public perception.

• Brett Goldstein [15:16]: "People are just looking because they see the thing. It isn't because they want to fight."

Ted shares his struggles with processing fame and emphasizes the importance of staying grounded.

• Ted Danson [03:57]: "I feel totally complete with George, so I don't have any regrets... I actually may tear up, but the truth is, I am."

Writing vs. Acting

A significant portion of the episode explores the distinction between writing and acting, with Brett advocating for the intimate connection between the two.

• Brett Goldstein [30:07]: "Writing is just like a private version of acting with acting. It's like an act of empathy."

Ted contrasts this with his own experience, focusing on his role as an actor and his lack of interest in storytelling.

• Ted Danson [31:56]: "I don't have to tell a story. I have to fill that moment in your story."

They discuss the collaborative nature of a writer's room and the creative dynamics involved in crafting a television series like "Ted Lasso".

• Brett Goldstein [35:17]: "It's like group therapy... keep the ball going."

Relationship with Mary Steenburgen

Ted opens up about his relationship with Mary Steenburgen, discussing the dynamics of working together as a couple in the entertainment industry.

• Ted Danson [40:38]: "We met on a film... You check your ego at the door."

• Brett Goldstein [42:42]: "I love it. You can tell a story."

They share anecdotes about their on-screen chemistry and the challenges of maintaining a personal relationship while collaborating professionally.

• Ted Danson [43:48]: "We consider it divine. We have angels that are putting us together."

Favorite Films

The hosts exchange their favorite films, highlighting the impact of storytelling and cinematic craftsmanship.

• Brett Goldstein [55:06]: "I think the Muppet Christmas Carol is the best film. It's the story of therapy... it's a great story."

• Ted Danson [57:57]: "Lawrence of Arabia. I had to work with Peter O'Toole."

Brett praises the depth and emotional resonance of "The Muppet Christmas Carol", while Ted reminisces about his experiences working on "Lawrence of Arabia", sharing a memorable story about Peter O'Toole and Omar Sharif performing the twist dance in a wine cellar.

• Ted Danson [60:36]: "Peter O'Toole and Omar Sharif... doing their version of the twist."

Closing Remarks

As the episode winds down, Brett and Ted share heartfelt moments, expressing mutual admiration and gratitude for their friendship and professional collaborations.

• Brett Goldstein [61:06]: "This is a huge honor to meet you, and I've had a lovely time."

• Ted Danson [61:10]: "Brett Goldstein just gave me a hug and left the room, and I had the best time."

Ted wraps up the episode by promoting Brett's stand-up special, encouraging listeners to watch "The Second Best Night of Your Life" on HBO Max.

Notable Quotes

• Brett Goldstein [03:04]: "George was so very, very kind. And we saw him a few times over the years, and he was nothing but lovely."

• Ted Danson [07:18]: "You don't mind being told that you are loved... I find it very calming."

• Brett Goldstein [16:35]: "When writing is good, you're seeing if it works or not. Whereas with acting, it's so ephemeral and captured."

• Ted Danson [43:30]: "We both came from other marriages... we both realized we were not capable of being in a relationship."

• Brett Goldstein [51:03]: "A Christmas Carol is the greatest story ever told... it's the story of therapy."

Conclusion

This episode offers an intimate glimpse into Brett Goldstein's journey in the entertainment industry, his experiences with fame, and his creative processes. Ted Danson's reflections on legacy, relationships, and storytelling provide depth to the conversation, making it a rich and engaging listen for fans and newcomers alike.

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