Harrison Ford

Summary

Where Everybody Knows Your Name with Ted Danson & Woody Harrelson (Sometimes)

Special Guest: Harrison Ford

Release Date: May 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson welcome legendary actor Harrison Ford for a conversation that ranges from wry Hollywood anecdotes to earnest discussions about environmental activism, craft, and the flavor of fame. The chemistry between the three old friends—alternatively playful, self-deprecating, and thoughtful—places listeners squarely in a freewheeling roundtable of iconic storytellers, reflecting on career milestones and the responsibility (and privilege) of making a mark, both on screen and off.

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Main Discussion Themes

1. Woody's Legendary Tardiness and Friendship Dynamics

• The episode kicks off with playful ribbing about Woody’s whimsical sense of time and inability to answer his phone.
• Notable Quote:
  • "[Woody] is the most whimsical reality it is. He goes where he wants when he wants and answers to nobody." – Ted (02:13)
• Harrison chimes in, noting the practical impacts on those around him, and the group segues into friendship banter about introducing Harrison at an awards show.

2. Hollywood Honors, Fame, and Self-Perception

• Ted recalls Harrison’s Life Achievement Award night (03:09), and the trio poke fun at speech lengths and tough celebrity crowds.

• Notable Quote:

  • "When was the first time you went, ‘oh, fuck... I’m famous’?" – Ted (07:10)
  • Harrison admits it was Star Wars, and shares his first BBC interview where he had "no fucking idea what it was about." (07:28-08:17)
  • "It was about two hours long. That’s how much I knew." – Harrison

• They reflect on public adoration, discomfort with fan attention, and flip the interview dynamic into comic territory as Harrison asks, “What is the job I’m being interviewed for?” (06:59)

3. Harrison Ford’s Family Roots and Early Years

• Harrison explores his complex family history:
  • His mother was Jewish, his father Irish, both skeptical of an acting career.
  • His father, once a vaudeville radio actor and later in advertising, is central to his reflections. (09:30)
  • "He lived well into his 90s. He smoked, he drank, he never exercised." – Harrison on his dad (12:15)
• Ford recounts being thrown out of college four days before graduation, and the tension it created at home. (11:00-11:49)

4. The Actor’s Nature: Show-off vs. Hider

• Woody and Ted confess to loving attention as young actors, while Harrison demurs:
  • "I wasn’t a show-off when I was young—I was a hider." – Harrison (14:23)
• The three debate the origins of acting drive: adoration, hiding, deflection, humor, and playground survival tactics.

5. Hollywood Rejection, Luck, and Serendipity

• Harrison tells the famous “Jerry Tarkovsky” story (16:28–19:29):

  • Cast as a bellboy, he’s told, “You’re never gonna make it in this business.”
  • Years later, Tarkovsky admits he “missed [his] bet” with a note at Fox’s executive dining room.
  • Notable Quote:
    • "I thought you were supposed to think it was a grocery delivery boy." – Harrison to Tarkovsky (18:01)

• Ted shares his own blacklisting by NBC (20:12), and they discuss the arbitrary obstacles of Hollywood executive power.

6. Carpentry and the Path to Stardom

• Key Story: Harrison’s segue from out-of-work actor to skilled carpenter after buying a dilapidated house in the Hollywood Hills for $10,000.
• Self-taught, he recounts building a recording studio for Sergio Mendes via pure gumption and a library book. (28:57–33:30)
• Carpentry work eventually led to a pivotal job building millwork for Coppola’s office, leading to his fateful meeting with George Lucas and a return to acting—culminating with Star Wars. (33:44–36:37)

7. The “Almost” Side of Casting

• Ford describes being cast in Star Wars more through fate than intention—reading for other actors out of favor to casting, before the part became his. Christopher Walken was in the running for Han Solo. (36:41–37:33)

• Notable Quote:

  • "If I was really lucky, I’d be Chris Walken." – Harrison (37:31)

• He credits casting director Fred Roos’ persistence in his career:

  • "I’m very grateful I was an overnight success and the night was 15 years long." – Harrison (38:25)

8. On Craft, Luck, and Collaboration

• Ted and Woody both praise Ford’s range and ability, prompting the trio to exchange genuine, if self-effacing, compliments. (40:21–42:08)
• They emphasize the collaborative magic and “creative soup” of their profession, discussing the unique tensions, deadlines, and “fun of figuring it out together.” (69:28–71:24)

9. Environmental Activism & the Power of Platform

• The back half features a deep, often urgent discussion about using celebrity status to effect real-world change, especially environmental advocacy. (42:43–47:12)
• Ford shares his long work with Conservation International, mutual respect with Ted for Oceana, and frustration with the U.S. refusing to sign the High Seas Treaty.
• "We are the first species in scientific history...supporting its own extinction." – Harrison (45:39–45:49)
• Discussion touches on political fragmentation, renewable energy potential, lack of will, and the need for young people to coalesce into a force for change.
• Woody expresses pride in making his TV set (with Matthew McConaughey) the most eco-friendly ever. (51:30)

10. Peter Weir and the Art of Filmmaking

• Woody asks about director Peter Weir, lauded as one of the greats. (53:13–54:28)
• Ford shares stories from Witness—the abbreviated four-week pre-production, split research between Amish life and Philadelphia police, and the “made up on the day” corn silo ending. (54:28–56:20)
• He recalls the Belize shoot for Mosquito Coast and living on a wooden yacht with “two Bubbas” and Jimmy Buffett’s sister as cook. (56:21–57:18)

11. ‘Shrinking’ and the Joy of Modern TV Work

• The trio shift to Ford’s latest Apple TV series, Shrinking, and praise its writing, ensemble, and homegrown comforts.
• The impact of the show is clear:
  • "People simply want to say they value the experience… They don't want a picture, they don't want an autograph." – Harrison (65:24)
• Ford reflects gratefully on a late-career gig that lets him sleep in his own bed and “take something out there that makes people feel good.” (61:41–65:57)

12. The Gift of Collaboration & Creative Process

• Discussion returns to what acting gives them all: risk, tension, camaraderie, and the privilege of “working naked”—open, vulnerable, creative, and surrounded by talent.
• "I love the collaboration… so many people supply intellectual input and emotional input and…generate that condition for the thing to happen." – Harrison (68:03)

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• On luck and ‘overnight success’
  • "I'm very grateful I was an overnight success and the night was 15 years long." – Harrison (38:25)
• On environment, activism, and hope
  • "We are the first species in scientific history…supporting its own extinction." – Harrison (45:39)
  • "You can buy someone's opinion, but science, there are tests of truth." – Harrison (44:09)
• Praise for each other
  • "You are both a leading man and a character actor…You defy every convention." – Harrison to Woody (41:21)
  • "I've never seen you do anything less than…elegant, tasteful, gorgeous." – Harrison to Ted (41:44)
• On acting and collaboration
  • "I would never call myself an actor…It's a privilege, and it is earned in different ways." – Harrison (68:03)

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Key Timestamps

Woody’s Tardiness / Friendship Jibing

• [01:12–03:03] Playful banter about Woody finally arriving and his whimsical nature

Star Wars, Fame, and Awkward Interviews

• [07:10–08:17] Talking about the moment Harrison knew he was “famous”; confusion over Star Wars early on

The Jerry Tarkovsky Story (on rejection/persistence)

• [16:28–19:33] Ford’s early rejection as an actor; Tarkovsky’s later admission he “missed his bet”

Carpentry to Han Solo: Meeting Lucas

• [28:57–36:41] Transition from self-taught carpenter to being cast in Star Wars

Genuine Compliments: Praise Around the Table

• [41:21–42:08] Harrison, Ted, and Woody complimenting each other’s careers

Environment, Activism, and the State of the Planet

• [42:43–47:47] Exchange on decades of environmental work, activism, and the hope for change

Making ‘Witness’ & Working With Peter Weir

• [53:13–56:20] Behind-the-scenes stories; “making it up as we went” with the ending

Shrinking and the Joys of TV

• [59:44–65:57] Ford discusses what makes his current Apple TV series meaningful and fun

On Acting, Privilege, and the Magic of Collaboration

• [68:03–71:24] Why acting remains magical; the collaborative “creative soup”; risk and reward of the job

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Final Thoughts

This episode is less a formal interview than an extended, intimate hangout—punctuated by laughter, self-mockery, gruff wisdom, and a shared ethos of craft and conscience. Its highlights are rooted in the candid vulnerability and lived-in rapport between old friends, yielding a rare window into the grit, luck, and purpose beneath celebrity.

Recommended for:

• Fans of pop-culture history, craft, and the real stories behind stardom
• Listeners looking for thoughtful, funny, and unvarnished conversation about art, responsibility, and life after the “overnight success”

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End of Summary

Transcript

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He laughs all the time. He thinks this is funny.

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I do think it's funny.

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I mean life.

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Welcome back to where everybody knows your name and you will know the name of today's guest. Harrison Ford is one of the most celebrated, highest grossing actors of our time. He's also one of my personal heroes because of how he used his fame to become a leader in the environmental movement. He currently stars in the Apple TV show shrinking playing Dr. Paul Rhodes. And if that isn't exciting enough, we've got Woody here.

[B]

Yep.

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In studio. So let's do it. Harrison Ford and my good friend Woody Harrelson. We need to start because Woody is like a half hour late, I think.

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But you really don't need him.

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You don't. And you know what's funny is when he does get.

[B]

You know what? He doesn't fucking need us either.

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I know, I know. He's the most whimsical reality it is. He goes where he wants when he wants and answers to nobody else.

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Well, there is someone else, Laura.

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Louis.

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Yes, he does.

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Yes. Yeah, yeah, the free spirits. By the way, somebody else is paying the price because she carries his phone. You can't get Woody on a phone because he.

[B]

No, of course, because he's. Well, he's eccentric and very whimsical.

[C]

Oh.

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Oh,

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well, we had to.

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There was a little business we had to get out of the way.

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Hi.

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Hey, Teddy. Yeah.

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How are you, my friend?

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I missed you. Oh, so anyway, we were talking about Woody and his whimsical. Go where he wants when he wants.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, because he was late. You're late.

[C]

I'm not late. It's one o'. Clock.

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Right.

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Let me back up a second because the last time I saw both of you was at the Actors Award where you got your Life Achievement Award. And you.

[C]

Oh, sorry, that was Seth.

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Yeah, it's the year of Seth. I tag along to make them look good.

[C]

But you.

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You introduced and made me laugh very hard with your introduction.

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It was lengthy.

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It was lengthy. It was.

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It was twice. Three times as long as your peace.

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It was. It was.

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It was.

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It was longer than my speech. And, yeah, frankly, was not as funny. You're a funny guy. I thought that you were perfect for the room. But what a crowd, you know, that's hard.

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No one's really there.

[C]

That was a tough crowd. Yeah, I heard that some of it

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was hard to hear because it was impossible to hear. You couldn't hear anything in the room. They cleverly decided that so that either you could hear it on television or you could hear it in the room. Yes, but not both.

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Mary had a note for you, which is don't claim thinking that, you know, making fun of yourself for not getting a laugh in the room. She said, in TV Land, it was funnier than hell. And she heard every word and it was great.

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Yes.

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Oh.

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So, okay, Just started off with fuck you all in the audience. I'm playing to the TV crowd and complained.

[C]

That's a good way to go. But I do remember when my first two jokes missed one after the other. I saw you over there just cackling. Well, he got real. He got real joy out of it.

[A]

Why did you ask Woody? How did that happen? You haven't worked together.

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Well, I asked 20 people first and.

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Right, but they're more than 20 people. You could have gone 40.

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I could have gone 40.

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He went.

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He only went 20 deep thinking about it. He could have gone, but he wanted to go to sure, five.

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You know why I wanted him to do it so that when it. When it comes his turn, he thinks of me and then has to fucking deal with that. That's good. Racking around in his mind. What am I gonna do? Am I gonna go on forever and never let him talk?

[A]

Yeah, I like what I'm gonna do. You lost me, though, because you said when it was his turn and my mind went. I'm gonna have to deal with that too.

[C]

That would be wild.

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Come on, they're gonna get around to you? They got around to me.

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No, dude, it's a different. You know, of all the people we've interviewed, I have to say.

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Is this an interview person? Wait a second. I thought I had the job.

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Only one person does it say, considered one of the greatest movie stars of all time. That's what it says on.

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That's what I wrote.

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And considered to be one of the greatest.

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By who, Woody? By who? My mother.

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Dude, I watched Jimmy Kimmel last night. You boy, did he kill that crowd. This is everywhere he goes. People just go bananas. And he's like, oh, it's embarrassing. Stop, stop. But you know, you have to deal with that everywhere you go.

[B]

Yeah, and you don't. Oh, that's not like that. Such a pity.

[C]

Not where people are standing on their feet cheering and screaming and. And for five minutes and you're finally like, shut up so I can, you know, do the interview.

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Okay, so shut up and do the interview. You said there's a fucking interview going on here. I didn't know I was going to be interviewed. What is the job I'm being interviewed for?

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All right, let's go off of that. When was the first time you went, oh, fuck. That amount of energy from which film, which moment in your early career did you go, oh, shit, I'm famous?

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I think it was probably Star Wars.

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Oh, shit, I missed that one. But yes.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, the first interview I ever had was BBC and they said I was working on Star wars and this guy came in with a nagger and he set it up, and instead of having lunch, I had to sit with this, and he said, this is Alan Levitz. We're here with BBC and we're talking to Harrison Ford about Star Wars. Here's what is Star wars about? And I had no fucking idea what it was about. It was about two hours long, as much as I knew. And I had. So is this that kind of an interview?

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This one right here? Oh, yeah. No, no, no. This is somehow make you embarrass and squirm. I did notice when you said Star wars first off, it was a lame question on my part, but when you said Star wars, there's almost an embarrassment of having to say Star wars that. It's like saying, I was in. Is he awake? Did I do that?

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I think that bores him. He doesn't like. He doesn't like to talk about himself Again. Never be doing an interview. He doesn't like to talk about himself.

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I don't need to be interviewed.

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Did your mother Everybody knows.

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Well, now we're getting down to grass tax, aren't we? My mother was Jewish. She didn't need to love me that way. She loved me in the Jewish way.

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Elaborate.

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Well, first they take a piece of you and throw it away. And then they. And then they teach you a bunch of stuff that's supposed to be good for you.

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And they're not family.

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Yeah, it was normal. A normal family.

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And she was. She did radio acting.

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No, no, that's a lie that people tell about my mother and I. I don't know why. My father was a radio actor. He didn't. Let me tell you about my father. My father was one of five guys who dressed in tuxedos and went around on the vaudeville circuit. And. And each week they did. Stood around a microphone in their tuxedos with their scripts and did a radio play about gangbusters, about, you know, FBI or something. Something like that. And that's what my father did for a while. And.

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And did you go watch him do that? Sometimes.

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Before. I was bored. Bored.

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And then he became like an advertising.

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And then he was in advertising. Yes, he. He directed and produced television commercials, Kennel ration.

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You know, they used to have. You could listen to Boston Blackie, like three years, 30 years ago when we were doing Cheers on the way home. I would listen to radio shows. They had them, and they'd replay them. Did your dad do the sound effects too, or was it just the play? No, he was an actor.

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He was not a technician. My father was an actor. Yeah.

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That's very cool.

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Yeah.

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So when you started acting, he was happy for you?

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No.

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Really?

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No, no, no. He. What? He. Well, not at first, I don't think, because in order to become an actor, I had first to be thrown out of college four days before graduation. Ah. It leaves a taste in your mouth, right, if there's never been a member of your family that had the opportunity to go to college and then got kicked out four days before graduation. They couldn't get their money back for the reservation for the.

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Genuinely.

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For the motel.

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Oh, right.

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Yeah.

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To come see their son graduate.

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Yeah.

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Oh, this was big.

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So that lasted for a while.

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You brushed over the pain of that? You mean

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for me. No, I'm saying the pain. It was a pain for them, right? Oh, yeah. So they weren't too sure about me.

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And your dad was Irish, so, I mean, did he. Did. Was it. Was he a kind of firm Irishman or what?

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He was a normal Irishman. He lived well into his 90s. He smoked he drank, he never exercised.

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I'm gonna try that.

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I hope I have his genes.

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Yeah, I'm not so sure. You look like you're winding down.

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I am.

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God damn, I am so winding down. I am falling apart in pieces.

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But so you. Because I saw this thing where it said you had. In high school, there was a high school radio started and you were the first voice.

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Was I? No, I don't think so. I mean, who, who knows?

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These are things.

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Why, why do I have to be the first voice?

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They're real. He just doesn't want to.

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He doesn't want to.

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I don't, I don't have that kind of information about myself. I, I, I forget.

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But I'm, I'm just asking this because, you know, the way I understood it was you. Like you, you were, you were. You became a carpenter.

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No, you're. I think what you're saying is that because I did this radio program in high school, I was already interested.

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Yeah.

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Interested in a theatrical career.

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Is that true?

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No, that's not true. No.

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So you had no interest?

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Yeah, well, maybe. I don't know. I didn't. I've never thought of the radio show being connected with the fact that I did plays, but maybe it is. Maybe I'm just a needy person who just needs, Wants a lot of attention.

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No question about that. Of course.

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Like you.

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You wouldn't be an actor if that's

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true of all with adoration.

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Throw some adoration for attention.

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Yeah, give me some fucking love.

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Someone called me a show off the other day. I said, dude, I'm an actor. Every actor is a show off when they're young and then they do. Then that's what they do for a living. They show off.

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Yeah.

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No, I wasn't a show off when I was young. I wasn't really. No, I kind of, I was a hider.

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Yeah, I'm more with you too. Yeah.

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Really?

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Yeah. No, you had balls early, man.

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No, no, you're playing basketball. I know your type of. Yeah, you're the, you're the type that used to beat the shit out of me in the playground. And I am the stupid fuck that operated on the theory when fighting that you didn't want to hit the other guy too hard because he was going to make him even madder and he would therefore increase the pain on you

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See, I was a step ahead of you.

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That's the way I thought.

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I, I would looked at Woody, the bully on the playground that is hysterical and would try to make Woody laugh so he wouldn't hit me. If I made him laugh, he might go, ah, he's funny. I won't hit him.

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I wouldn't give him the satisfaction. I wouldn't give him the satisfaction of making him laugh. It's too fucking easy. Oh, it is. It is easy.

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Okay.

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He laughs all the time. He thinks this is funny.

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I do think it's funny.

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I mean, life. You think life is funny.

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I'm really getting a kick out of life.

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I'm so glad somebody is.

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You do. Have you ever so admire that about Woody?

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Turn on the television. Get over it.

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Get over the joy, suffering.

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Yeah. No, if we look at all the happening in the world now, I mean,

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don't do it, man.

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Yeah, I hate to. I'm just.

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I'm sorry I brought him down.

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Well, you brought me right down. Jesus Christ. How many wars do we have to have going, including the internal wars and the brown shirts and all that that's going on? It's like unbelievable. Okay, let's get off that stuff. This I hope is true. Okay? This is one of the things, One thing that might be true according to one anecdote. So this is anecdotal.

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Okay, now you're blaming somebody else for it already. Yeah.

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The producer, Jerry Tchukovsky told you.

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He did.

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He just got to leave because this is going south. Is that what. No, no, no.

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That was. Jerry Koski said, please don't do this again. Please don't do this again, because I've

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been done a lot, but I never

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quite willing to do it again.

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Jerry Takovsky.

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I can spell the last name for you if you really want to write it down.

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He said that when Tony Curtis delivered groceries, he said that Curtis was a movie star. You could see him when he delivered groceries, that it was obvious he was a movie star. And. And he said that if Curtis was truly a talented actor, he would have delivered them like a bellhop.

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No, I love that.

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No, no, no, no. That's all fucked up. That's all messed up. I played a bell boy.

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Yes.

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In. In a movie with Jim James Colburn.

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Yes.

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I called him Jim James. James. And. And my entire part was. And I'm dressed as. Obviously as a billboy. Mr. Jones. Paging Mr. Jones. And he would say, boy. And I say, oh, Mr. Jones. Room 251. And he'd say, yes. And I gave him the telegram. I got called into the office of the head of the new talent program, a man named Jerry Tarkovsky. He was a few years older than me, so that allowed him to call me Boy, wow, boy, he said, you're never gonna make it in this business. I saw the dailies from yesterday. I'm going to tell you a story. The first time Tony Curtis ever walked on a stage, he delivered a bag of groceries. You took one look at that guy and you said, that's a movie star. And I leaned across the desk and said, I thought you were supposed to think it was a grocery delivery boy. And he said, get the fuck out of here. And I did. And it went on like that for a year and a half. He did not like me. I did not like him. But years later, I'm sitting in the commissary at. What's that place called? 20th Century Fox. And I'm sitting there in the executive dining room having lunch. And a man comes over with a tray, a little tray, and there's a card on it, just like in the movies. And I pick up the card and it says, Jerry Tarkovsky. And I turn it over and on the back it said, I missed my bet.

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Wow, some self awareness there.

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Kind of cool, huh?

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Yeah. Did you say hi to him?

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I looked around the room and everybody looked like Jerry Tarkovsky to me. But nobody looked like, you know, I didn't. I didn't know who he was. I let it lay like Jesus flung it. I did not disturb anybody's lunch. I just went on with my life.

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That's cool. And he was probably waiting for some sort of, Gosh, where are you? I'd love to say hi. And nothing.

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I hope so.

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Yeah.

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I don't think so. No, I don't think he liked me.

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I got blacklisted. Four cheers from NBC. I mean, a memo to everybody. Don't hire them.

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Really?

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Yeah, I found out.

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What have you done to offend?

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I had been in a pilot with. And I'm blanking on the head of NBC back then's name. But I'd been in a pilot with his favorite ingenue who was supposed to play my daughter. And when we were cast, it made sense, but then she developed into a young girl and we were supposed to be father daughter detectives in San Francisco. And it just didn't work because of aging processes in life. And it sucked. And he blamed me for that. And literally there was a memo. What's his name?

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What's his name?

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Well, I'm going to say it. If I can get his name, I will. My brain's. I got it in there.

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Okay. I think it might have been Jerry Tacost.

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No, maybe it's polite thing. Not to mention his name. Well, but thank God I did.

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Why would you bother to be polite?

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I've said it before. I just remembered the name before.

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So tell me about the. You guys did this thing for how many years? I. I mean, I.

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How many?

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Yeah, he did 11, and I did eight.

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Yeah.

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Wow. Yeah.

[A]

And we have a memory. I don't know if you remember this, but you, me, George, went to the. After a shoot one night, Tuesday night, we went to the Paramount lot tank. You know, the water tank. And you were sitting in your little chair waiting between tanks with a towel over you because you'd been soaked in some water scene.

[C]

They flooded the whole.

[A]

Jack Ryan. Yeah.

[B]

They flooded the whole parking lot with 3 foot of water and then put boats in it for us to have a big boat fighting boats at night in. In a rainstorm.

[A]

You were so sweet to us, really. Three TV actors. Maybe you were.

[B]

Oh, because I was a movie actor and I was being nice to tv.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I had no idea you could do that.

[A]

Well, you did it. Maybe you thought we were movie stars, too. I don't know.

[B]

I probably did.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, he does. He looks. Look at that chiseled jaw. Chiseled.

[B]

I know. I walked in today, and he was sitting in the sun. I could see the back. Only the back of his head you recognized. And it was perfect. It was perfect. So I knew that it was him.

[A]

You know what I was doing then? Can I tell you? Because of Flea, who was one of our first podcast people to visit the Flea Red Hot Chili Peppers. Before he started, he actually, while we were rolling, he said, can I just take a minute? We just sat down and he meditated for, like, I don't know, not that long, Maybe a minute and a half or two minutes. Because he didn't want to bring anything extra into this moment. So I was meditating, trying to get my wits about me.

[C]

Then how do you go about this meditation?

[A]

None of your fucking business.

[C]

Oh, okay. Are you sure you meditated and you're totally Zen right now?

[B]

Can I tell you something? Can I tell you something?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It ain't working. No, no, it ain't working.

[A]

It did because you should have seen me before.

[B]

I can see several parts of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. This is just.

[A]

I'm taking a competitive meditation course. Maybe it's not the right thing,

[B]

But.

[C]

Do you want to. Did you just, like, breathe and try to.

[A]

I did. I just counted breaths and tried to get my brain, you know, and say, hey, just be nice, be curious and listen.

[B]

Come on. This doesn't Take a lot of brain power, does it?

[A]

Brain power, no, but attention, yes.

[B]

So you're here with me, having made the commitment to be here.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And you could possibly be inattentive.

[A]

No, because I meditated, didn't I?

[B]

No, no, no, no. Before you even meditated, you were Ted Danson and you wouldn't do that. I know that.

[A]

What's your point? You're just losing me completely.

[C]

You don't like the meditation?

[B]

No, I just don't. I just. I don't like the. Taking this seriously is what I don't like.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, okay.

[A]

You know what it is, truly? It's me thinking, oh, I need to be a good podcaster. Oh, I need to think of something interesting for Harri and I need to junk that and get rid of it.

[B]

Because we're just guys. We're just going to sit here and Anyway. Yeah, because that's who we are, though.

[C]

One of the greatest movie stars of all time. I get it.

[B]

Oh, yeah, let's get that in again. One of.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, that's. That's what? He didn't like the one.

[B]

No, no.

[C]

Yeah. He's like, well, who? You put in a. But who.

[B]

Well, as long as you, you know, as long as you're dreaming,

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, jump around. You're not jumping around. You're sitting still and you're concentrating.

[A]

My brain is. I'm going to take you back. This is your life. Yeah, Carpentry. Yeah, you said it said I heard maybe we're wrong. That it was self taught. Yeah, carpentry.

[B]

Yes, it was.

[A]

And it was because you probably weren't getting that much work during the contract years. Right. Okay. A minor statement but that became a real. You became a real craftsman. Right.

[B]

I became a real carpenter. I became. I was. Yes, I did. I did learn the craft, the physical craft of act of. What was it? Carpentry.

[A]

So more about houses than woodworking kind of thing or what it was?

[B]

House house carpentry mostly. Although later on I did build cabinets and I worked in a cabinet shop doing. Making cabinets and installing them. I was a carpenter. I. The reason I became a carpenter is that I had bought a house here LA in the. In the Hollywood Hills. For I'm serious $10,000. This was a long time ago. And the reason it was $10,000, I found out two years or so into living in it and starting to do work on it to remodel it, restore, was a ranger station brought up on mule back.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Into an area that was a. A park at the time. And it had no stud walls. You know, the stud wall. Yeah. So there was no place to put electricity in the walls. I mean, it was a shack. And I bought this thing for $10,000 and I lived there with my wife and my first child. Two child children actually. Two child. And I started to take it apart to restore it and then I found out that there were no stud walls and there was no. I was knob and tube electrics, but electricity. And I'd spent all my money on tools. So I didn't have any money for studs. Studs or walls or. Yeah, so this friend of mine, Peter Palafian. There's a good name. Peter was working as a recording engineer for the Mamas and the Papas. And he said, why don't you. And although he was working with the Mamas of the Papas, he's also recording Sergio Mendez. And Sergio said that he was going to. In conversation, Sergio brought up the fact that he was thinking about building a rehearsal space at his Encino estate. And Peter said, why don't you go talk to Sergio? And I did. Sergio came out of his house in a big fluffy robe with a cigar at 8 o' clock in the morning. Nicest pie. Sweet, sweet man. We walked around in his backyard and he talked about his plan to turn this garage into a rehearsal space. And even as we talked, it began to grow as a proposition. And eventually I ended up building a 10 track recording studio for him in this garage. He forgot to ask me if I had ever done it before and I forgot to tell him. And I was up on the roof with a book from the Encino Public Library about how to cut in a roof, you know. But it turned out fine. And I was. I had a career in carpentry. I never. I worked time and material and I picked and choose my job. I had an incredible luck in that area. Wow.

[A]

Isn't it. Isn't there a story that you, you did eventually get work out of it because somebody. Oh, yeah, you were working on eventually

[B]

did get acting work out of it.

[A]

Out of the carpentry, I mean.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

Which was it? What?

[B]

Well, I. I was working at the time for this guy named Francis Ford Coppola. Yeah. And Francis's art director, Dean Tavoularis had designed a beautiful entrance to his offices at Goldwood, which is new offices. And Dean couldn't get any. They made the millwork in, in the studio, but he couldn't get anybody to install it. So he asked me to do it and I said, okay, I'll do it, but only going to work at night because I don't want to, you know, confuse people about what, who, you know, what I am, blah, blah, blah. And, and I, and, and George was casting a movie called Star Wars.

[A]

See, he says it funny each time,

[C]

but go on, say it funny.

[B]

Star wars. And had let it be known to our agents that anybody that was in American Graffiti need not apply because he was looking for new faces, fresh faces, not the worn out old faces we had. But I'm sweeping up and he walks in, he's using Francis office. He walks in with Richard Dreyfus for the first interview for Star wars. And I'm there. A carpenter, a lowly craftsman, but really buff.

[A]

You were looking buff.

[B]

I'll bet.

[A]

Sorry, go on.

[B]

I don't know what I, you know, I don't know what, whether I was having a good day or bad day, but I was there in my carpenter belt and blah, blah, blah, with a broom in my hand.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Not, you know, not a movie star like Richard Dreyfus. Well, and then, but then time goes on by and, and they, and Fred Roos was the casting director, asked me to read as a favor to them, would I read with the other actors? Yeah, I'll do that. So I read with all the other actors and then they gave me the part. But they had three, they had another group of three people. I don't know who the other two, the, the girl and the, and the younger man would have been. I can't remember who they are, but the part that I, that, that I eventually played would have been Chris Walken.

[A]

He was in the other. One of the other groups.

[B]

He was the other.

[C]

That is wild. Think about.

[B]

So when did you get the feeling

[C]

that they were like, you know, you're doing the readings and stuff and when did you get the feeling like, I think they're starting to be interested in the way I'm.

[B]

About two months after they, you know, I signed the contract because I, I didn't, you know, I don't know why I didn't never, I never got it. I didn't, I didn't think that. I didn't think they were testing me. I thought I was doing them a favor. Ah, that group of three. So that's how lucky I am. That's the kind of luck I have. Yeah. But if I was really lucky, I'd be Chris Walken if I could.

[A]

We'd all be Chris Walken if we could.

[B]

I'd fucking fight you for it.

[A]

Unbelievable.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, that's funny. So wait a minute. Backing up. So you'd already done American Graffiti? My bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When you were doing the carpentry work and all of that in between, how did you get that?

[B]

What?

[A]

American Graffiti Graffiti. How did that come about? Contract plan.

[B]

Interference? No, it was the interference of Fred Roos, who was the casting director.

[C]

He

[B]

somehow convinced himself that I was of some use, and he continued to exhibit that behavior for about 10 years till somebody finally caved. It's true. Yeah.

[C]

He knew.

[A]

Fred.

[C]

Bruce knew.

[B]

I'm very grateful for the, for the fact that I was an overnight success and that the night was 15 years long because it gave me time to figure out the job. It's, that's a weird job.

[A]

It is. I don't think I could. Mary went from waiting tables to working with Jack Nicholson and being directed and all that. Relatively overnight. Yeah, I mean, close to overnight. I don't, I couldn't have done that. I, I, I think I needed my, Whatever needed to take little steps and do this, which is kind of what I did.

[B]

I think so that's what I needed.

[A]

Dealt with it.

[B]

I loved doing it from the beginning, but, you know, I just, I didn't have any technique. And not that you need it. I mean, just.

[A]

Why'd you look at it when you

[C]

say, not that you need it, like I have no technique.

[A]

What the is this

[C]

points right to me.

[B]

I was just looking.

[C]

See that?

[B]

No, you were, you were, you're, it's, your face is kind of electric, and you drew me in with your, with your big open smile and your, in your warmth and, and, and self satisfaction. I had to deal with it.

[C]

You very nearly turned that around.

[A]

You're very hard to compliment. So I'm, Yeah. Without it making. So I'm gonna, I am gonna try harder. I'm gonna move on. But let me, let me say to you as well, we're interviewing you, but you are also one of my favorite actors and you have truly. I.

[B]

Let's do that for a minute.

[A]

No, this is brief because I don't want to dwell because I do.

[B]

Can I get in on this?

[A]

No, it's my. Oh, okay. What?

[B]

No, I, I, I'm absolutely amazed at the, at the work that this Woody has done. Woody. What's his name?

[A]

Woody Harrelson.

[B]

What's his real name?

[A]

Woodrow.

[B]

Woodrow. Woodrow did. He's. He. You know, we've. We kid around and stuff, but the work that you've turned in over the years, Woody, is absolutely amazing range of. Of indelible, unique characters, and there's nobody to compare with you. You are. You are both a leading man and a character actor. You defy every convention. You make everything that you do work on its own terms. Not. You just don't do the work. The Woody. You. You invest, and you work hard, and your work is phenomenal. Wow.

[C]

Boy, this is the greatest.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Well done. What was your name, please?

[A]

That's all right. Teddy.

[B]

Thank you, Teddy.

[A]

Okay. But here's where I'm going with two.

[B]

Teddy's pretty good, too.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

No, I mean, come on, man. I've never seen. I've never seen you do anything. Yeah. I've never seen you do anything that was wrong or anything less than. Very specific, elegant, tasteful, gorgeous.

[A]

The three of us are very happy right now, and thank you. So here's why I brought this up, because this applies to both of you. One of my heroes, Robert Redford, did the same thing. You have done the same thing where you. And you, too, Woodrow. Where you use your fame, your acting, your success, whatever, to make a difference into the world. And for you, I saw you and Redford, it was in the environment, by and large, many other things, but you've been part of Conservation International for as long as I was around during World water stuff.

[B]

Yeah. And you've been doing it for 30 years, too. I know, Oceana.

[A]

Yes. But I looked at you, and you were an inspiration to me. And you say I inspired you, but you have taken off and done so much with your fame, and I just have so much respect for that.

[B]

Oh, wow. Thank you.

[C]

Well, I really respect what you've done for the oceans, man. It's been really incredible and huge and for literally 40 years.

[A]

And what's comforting to me right now, it's the one thing started.

[B]

Started when. When it was not in fashion.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the world is better off for it now, but we have a long way to go.

[A]

Oh, my God. Same fights over and over again.

[B]

But now we have. I mean, who would have thought 40 years ago that we would have. What has just been signed. A high seas treaty.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

To establish governance of the high seas.

[A]

Which we refused to sign.

[B]

For which we, America, refused to sign. Yes. Well, that's another Issue, isn't it?

[A]

The one thing that gives me comfort right now in this time of sadness and wickedness that's going on is Oceana for me. It is my club. I get to fight back in an area that I feel comfortable fighting in, which is science based.

[B]

You can buy someone's opinion, but science, there are tests of truth. There's good science and bad science and self interest and the status quo, the establishment. And so when you want to change something as basic as human behavior. And part of the problem is that we behave like animals too. We have increased intellectual capacity, but I'm

[C]

not sure about that. Well, because think about it. Dogs, they understand like what, hundreds of words of ours. We don't understand one dog word. Not one. What did that mean?

[B]

I have to go pee outside. Okay.

[A]

But it was one of six or seven.

[C]

Now that's. I really have to go pee.

[B]

I go, yeah. No, no, this is serious. We're, We're. We have to. No, I didn't mean. I didn't mean to stop you. I just mean the me and the intellectual. Yeah. Oh, God. No. This is a serious issue with humanity, actually. We are the first species in scientific history that is deeply involved in supporting its own extinction.

[A]

True.

[B]

Never happened before. We are changing behaviors. And young people have so much more knowledge and understanding of the issue and that and the urgency of the problem and the willingness because they know that the world we're living them don't work as well as it used to.

[C]

Well, I mean, it feels like the number one thing we need to do is alter our personal and our planetary energy. What? We're energizing ourselves personally and planetarily.

[A]

Break that. Do that again.

[C]

In other words, personally, I mean, like a change of diet. Like just the impact of meat eating and livestock and all of that and on the water resources and everything else.

[B]

No, you're right.

[C]

Is one thing, but certainly we need to stop, get off the dinosaur, Ted, as soon as possible. I mean, it really is. It just continues to fuck us. And we're only in Venezuela for certain. Certainly because of the oil. We're in Iran because of the oil. We're in Iraq because of the oil. We're in Afghanistan because of the pipelines to, To. To move the oil.

[B]

Hey, but we're. But look at how much money is going into space. If you could find somewhere out in the firmament a planet with an atmosphere, with gravity, with water, with developed societies, with hundreds of languages, surely you'd want to go there. Well, you're already there.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

That's where you are, that's your home. Why are you wasting all this money going to space?

[A]

Right, Nutty. So here's, I mean we could go on and on because we all are on the same page, I think.

[B]

Oh, because we've got nothing better to do?

[A]

No, I mean on and on about the condition of this country and what's going on right now and it's very sad and all of that. What do you've got grandkids, you have kids. You can't show up and say, oh man, this is fucked up, we really messed up and I'm so sorry. Good luck. You have to have hope, you have to have rights.

[C]

I suppose you do.

[B]

So young people are more aware than ever before of the actual condition of the world they're living in. They have not yet found leadership because like every other aspect of our society, they've been disaggregated into little groups as a business plan. And it works. And this disaggregation has kept them from finding cohesion. This, you know, the young people are the greatest uncoalesced constituent political constituency in this, in this country. They could own the store. They really don't want to, I think.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because they don't know really why, how it got to be the way it is. I'm making ridiculous blanket statements. I don't mean to be doing, I'm just trying to simplify. I do think that once they find an issue or leadership that they can coalesce around then things could change. We're going to lose agriculture in the middle of our country because of drought. It's been predicted by NASA for 30 years now. And I've seen, I see it coming. This is kind of hair brain idea that I have. I believe that we should develop the infrastructure for alternative energy in the middle of the country using all of the wonderful craft skills and capacities that people have been using in the middle of the country so that they can have economic opportunities and rebuild the grid and repair our infrastructure. That's what I would like to see happen.

[A]

There are solutions to many of the problems and maybe not all, but there's not the will to do it. And that's something man, we have to.

[C]

Yeah, well the political will is dictated by the people with the money. I mean people get into allheartedly because of people with the money. They don't want to fuck with the system. In fact they, you know, like just think of the massive subsidies that go to the oil and it's massive to nuclear, to all these industries. Why don't we put that toward, like, clean energy.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Yeah, I don't see it happening. By the way, I have to go to Texas in a few days. I hope people will still be talking

[A]

to me, you know, after this. You know that more clean energy comes out of Texas than anywhere else.

[C]

Is that right?

[A]

That's accurate. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I didn't know that. Yeah, well, you know, me and Matthew did this show, Brothers Together, and it's the cleanest set in history. All the recycling, all of the. The things running on solar and. Yeah, I mean, it's really been an incredible thing to watch it happen like this. It's. It's like, it's. It's the most eco conscious set that's ever been. Kind of proud of that.

[A]

You should be. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

But, yeah, I got off the. I total selfish.

[A]

But no, no, you didn't. And in that vein, because we're in California, we have. We're about to start offshore oil drilling according to this particular administration, in federal waters. And there's a way to stop them, but we all have to literally talk to every representative. And this is not about tree hugging. This is about your business on the beach, your tourism, your hotels, your restaurants, your fishermen. There are a lot of wallets that stand up together and go, no, don't drill.

[C]

Yeah, I was just in yesterday. I was, you know, I came in from upstate and I was hanging out with Michael J. Fox, actually, and he showed me some of Yalls scenes together. But anyway, I was out there with him and we're looking straight out. He's on the water and we're looking straight out. And it's just oil rigs still out there after all these years. It's like amazing. Right off of Santa Barbara.

[A]

Yeah. And still leaks.

[C]

Let's move on to happier waters.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Let me ask you a question.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[C]

Working with. I love Peter Weir. Love Peter Weir. I just think he's one of the great directors of all time.

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

And so you did two films with him. And what was the. What was it like to work with him?

[B]

It was great. The first movie we did together was Witness.

[A]

Brilliant.

[B]

And it was the first time anybody asked me who I thought might be a good director for a script I had read. Wow. I mean, that was a big step. I was very impressed with Peter at the. Peter Weir at that time. I had seen. I can't remember the name of the film, but I'd seen a film that he'd done that I thought was Crackerjack. And so they. And it was Katzenberg Jeff Katzenberg was head of Paramount at the time. And so he hired Peter. We had four weeks of pre production. Four weeks.

[A]

That short.

[B]

I can't remember why, but Peter. I think Peter had an obligation or something. And so it was deemed possible. So we split the task of doing research. He went off and researched the Amish, which I had already some knowledge of. I. I traveled there with my family when I was young and I was fascinated by them. And I went off to do to work with the Philadelphia Police Department for a couple of weeks. And then we came to back together and shared what we had learned. And we were in production four weeks. Amazing. Wow. And we didn't have an ending. The end of the movie was that Danny Glover got kicked. Kicked to death by the train. By the mule. By the. By the old Amish grandpa's mule. That's my job. Yes, that's my job in this story. So I remember that the day we shot the ending was the day we decided to dump the corn in the silo on the bad guy. And we had to go find an aqua lung. We had to go find scuba gear in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. And we did, but we just made up and it. And it worked. It was great. It was brilliant. And then we went right into doing Mosquito coast, which was incredible book. I don't know if you read any.

[A]

Yeah, both.

[B]

Again, it was a fantastic experience. It worked in Belize. There was no place. The place was very funky at the time.

[C]

My friend, you're living on a boat.

[B]

Yeah, Jimmy. My friend Jimmy Buffett got me a boat that he worked on when he was a kid. And then they were. I had two deck hands, Bubba and Bubba. There were two Bubbas. We had two Bubbas and. And Jimmy's sister was a. My cook. The cook on the boat. It was fantastic. It was 110 foot long wooden yacht.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

And we just sat off the offshore, a quarter mile offshore. Wow. Cool.

[C]

And did Jimmy come out or no?

[B]

He did, yeah.

[C]

That's good.

[B]

Came to visit a couple times.

[A]

Boy, he was.

[B]

He was so fun.

[A]

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[C]

You're promoting it.

[B]

Yeah, I'm promoting it. Yes, I am. And I'm doing a very bad job right now. It's shrinking, shrinking, shrinking. It's good. I love it.

[A]

It's really good.

[B]

I really, really. I got one script. Brett Girl Goldstein, who I love, man.

[A]

Isn't he the best?

[B]

He's the best, Brett. He came, I was working in. In London and. And he. I got the script. It was arranged that we would have dinner and we'd talk about it, you know. So he knocked on the door of my London apartment. I opened the door, he said, hello. I said, I'll do it. Literally.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

Yeah. And that. And then we had a nice evening. It was a character that really appealed to me. The writing was fantastic. The other characters were exciting, interesting concepts, and I fell for it. And I've had the best time. All the other actors are deeply committed, wonderfully talented. We have great writing. And I don't have to Go to Hungary to do it. Yeah. I work in Burbank. Yeah. I get in a car for half an hour, and I sleep in my own bed, and I live my life. And it's. It's a dream come true.

[A]

I love it. Yeah. I really enjoy it. It's really good. Jason is a buddy. He's pretty remarkable.

[B]

He is very remarkable. He's wonderfully intelligent. His warmth is beyond compare and generous.

[A]

He gives a lot away.

[B]

Good person. I'm having a ball.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Bill Lawrence is a genius.

[A]

Slash mogul.

[B]

Yeah, but don't tell him.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He doesn't listen.

[B]

Don't tell him.

[C]

You know, I knew him for a long time. I used to play basketball with him, with Gary Goldberg all the time. For years and years and years. And. And we were always on opposite teams. If he heard this, he would say, you know what? You're right. We were always on opposite team.

[A]

Did you ever.

[C]

He's a good player, huh?

[A]

Did you ever get into fisticuffs with him or.

[B]

No, no, no.

[C]

We did have disagreements.

[A]

No, I'm sorry. That's Bird. You got into a fight.

[C]

We had disagreements, but we never. Never came to fisticuffs. But I did almost get into fisticuffs with Gary Goldberg.

[B]

Yeah. Really?

[C]

Yeah, it was.

[A]

He was. He was tough. He was a good player.

[C]

Tough as could be.

[A]

He was Manhattan basketball.

[C]

Was he a great shot? Yeah, he could.

[B]

You're real boys.

[C]

Shoot the lights out.

[B]

Yeah. No, no, I'm not a real boy.

[A]

I run with the boys. I'm not a real boy.

[C]

But. But I show with. With. With Mike. The one he did with Goldberg after Spin City.

[A]

Spin City. Thank you.

[C]

And. But Bill was really the guy doing everything already back then.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So, I mean, he wasn't like. He just sprung out of nowhere.

[A]

He was.

[C]

He was already just crushing it back then and making it better.

[B]

He's doing five shows now.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

He's got five shows on the air.

[A]

Ted Lasso, Is that coming back? That's him, right?

[C]

Yeah, that's coming back.

[B]

Ted Lasso, Bad monkey, which is crazy. The new. The new Steve Carell. Oh, yeah.

[A]

One rooster.

[B]

Yeah, rooster. And I don't know what I.

[A]

Shrinking.

[B]

Scrubs. Scrubs. Scrubs and shrinking. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. He just walks in the room and the studio goes, yeah, we'll do it. Sure you don't want to hear the idea? Now we're in. We're.

[A]

Yeah. That's great. What is your. What is your work week like? Do you get. Are you flat out, or do you

[C]

get Three days, two days a week.

[B]

I don't have any control. I don't. I. I have not thrown your weight around. I didn't.

[A]

Of course I did.

[B]

Well, now it sounds like a pretty good idea. No, I didn't throw my weight around. I didn't. I, I didn't. I, I said I don't like to work more than 10 hours a day.

[A]

That's good.

[C]

That's very good.

[A]

But I do a little weight there. There's a little weight there, but go on.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

And I don't like to work more than two days a week.

[A]

Well, no, that's. I, I'll work.

[B]

I work five days a week.

[A]

So you don't, you don't do a day thing. So you can work every day or not.

[B]

Whatever. Yeah, but there's. There's a lot of other interesting people in the cast to talk about and. Which makes it nice. Yeah, makes it very nice.

[C]

Well, hell of a show. And you're great.

[B]

I. I've been doing this for quite a while, and then. And when shrinking came out, the whole tone of, of chance encounters on the street with people, customers changed. And it's, it's quite remarkable. People simply want to say that they value the experience.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That they love the show and then they walk away. They don't want a picture, they don't want an autograph.

[A]

They want to thank you for putting something out in the world that really is nurturing and.

[B]

Oh, my God. I mean, what. That's. That's a gift beyond measure. Taking something out there that makes people feel good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Feel. Feel better. I'm very grateful for him.

[C]

Well, you've done a lot of that over the years. Done a lot of that. I know you don't like a pat on the back.

[B]

No, no, no, no. What I have done is I have been part of other people's success. I've been part of George's success. I've been part of Steven's success. I've been part of Peter Weir's success. And their success has made me. Has given me the opportunity to be a part of it.

[A]

But that's a truism. Yes, you're right. It's the script, it's the writing, it's the directing, all of that stuff. But then this is the part that's hard to take as an actor. I mean, if you're basically a good actor and, and, you know, good at your job.

[B]

Many, many of us.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

But then there's the fact that you are who you are as a human being. As a man and what you put off, which is hard for you to see or acknowledge or whatever, but that part is pretty amazing. What you have to give out into the world. Harrison is so fun to watch, so nurturing, so caring. So all of that stuff. And that's. That's you. That you bring before you even start to act. And that's pretty cool. You're a good guy. Suck on that.

[C]

We continue to eat it up.

[B]

I'm eating it up.

[A]

That's.

[B]

But, yeah, but it's. It's. It's warm.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

Warm. Warm, but, you know, makes me want to roll around in it.

[A]

Warm bullshit is much more fun to roll.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I hate that cold bullshit. You know what? This is what I love about actors. They are generous to each other.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They have to be.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because you. You work naked and everybody can see, and after a while gets to be comfortable. I would never call myself an actor. People say, what do you do? I would say, I'm a carpenter because I was being paid to be a carpenter. I would never say that I was an actor until I was being paid to be an actor. It's a privilege, and it is earned in different ways. Different people have different approaches, different talents, different things to offer. I love the collaboration.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Being in the. In a. A context of a literal. In a job that. That in which so many people supply intellectual input and emotional input and. And. And. And generate that condition for the. For the thing to happen. I mean, I'm just so grateful to have this job. It's unbelievable. The emotional exercise is what I. It's, I think, what I'm addicted to.

[A]

Pretty cool tribe we belong to. What are you gonna say? That's true.

[C]

I. I was thinking about, you know, from Carol Kane, and, you know, she did this play with John Cassavetes, and

[A]

it was Carol and Gina Rollins.

[C]

Jenna Rollins, and, you know, Peter Falk and what's the other.

[A]

Ben Gazara.

[C]

Ben Gazara. They rehearsed it for three months, and they put it on for three. Three days, just for friends. They all said it was the greatest experience they had. I just love being a part of this creative soup where we all get to, you know, how do we make this? Oh, it'd be funnier if you did.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's a good. You know, like, the way people.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, I agree with you. Like, just. Just that coming together and bouncing ideas together and coming up with something, you know, like the way you came up with the end of Witness, you know.

[B]

Oh, but there. And. But the other Thing I love about it is the tension of it. Right. You got a certain amount of time to do this.

[C]

Got the clock.

[B]

Yeah. And. And. And you don't get another chance, dude. This is what we're doing today. You get it today or you don't get it at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that extra tension on the. On the process is kind of exciting, too.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And. And when it works, man, it is such magic, man. You just. You walk into a room where you've never been before with three other actors, and suddenly everybody knows where they should be, you know, and then. And they're overlapping and. And it's, you know, it's. It's pretty amazing. Yeah.

[A]

Magic.

[B]

Yeah. We're lucky.

[A]

We're very lucky.

[C]

We're super lucky.

[A]

Maybe we should end it around this. But let me just say how happy I am we got to be with Harrison together, buddy.

[C]

Me too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Really lovely.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

Thanks for coming in, Harrison.

[B]

Thank you, my fellow thespians.

[A]

Yeah. Give our regards and love to Calissa.

[B]

I will.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And say hi to Mary.

[C]

She's great. I really like her.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah.

[C]

I mean, you don't have to say that. You do too. I'm just assuming.

[A]

And we'll go out on that edit. Wow, that was fun. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Harrison Ford. Catch him in shrinking on Apple TV now. It was great to see you too, Woody. I always miss you and love when we get to do this together. Let's do it again soon. That's it for this week. Special thanks to Team Coco. If you've enjoyed this episode, send it to a loved one, subscribe on your favorite podcast app and maybe give us a great rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Why not? If you like watching your podcasts, all our full length episodes are on YouTube. Visit YouTube.comteamcoco See you next time. Where everybody knows your name.

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