Podcast Summary: "Where Everybody Knows Your Name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson (sometimes)"
Episode: James Burroughs
Release Date: April 2, 2025
Introduction
In this heartfelt episode of "Where Everybody Knows Your Name," hosts Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson reconnect with the legendary director James Burroughs. Known for his pivotal role as the co-creator and executive producer of the iconic sitcom "Cheers," Burroughs shares invaluable insights into his illustrious career, his deep bond with Woody, and the intricate dynamics behind one of television's most beloved shows.
Early Beginnings and Education
Woody Harrelson opens the conversation with reflections on James Burroughs' early life, highlighting the influence of his father, known as "The Doctor," who was renowned for fixing major Broadway productions.
Woody Harrelson (00:32): "I like to say in Thanksgiving we were the 72nd show out of 71."
James Burroughs recounts his educational journey, emphasizing his initial disinterest in show business despite early exposure.
James Burroughs (03:08): "Tell me a little bit about your, you know, your early school."
Woody elaborates on his time in the Metropolitan Opera Boys Chorus, providing a glimpse into his formative years.
Woody Harrelson (03:18): "I spent five years in a boys chorus, going down to the Metropolitan Opera and singing in Carmen and singing in La Boheme..."
Transition to Theater and Early Directing Experiences
The discussion delves into Woody's transition from a government major at Oberlin College to the Yale School of Drama, highlighting the serendipitous nature of his directing career.
Woody Harrelson (05:56): "I was a government major, which means... I don't know what I'm going to do, so I'm going to make a job."
James Burroughs sheds light on Woody's early directing roles, including working backstage and assisting in production.
Woody Harrelson (08:26): "I was the assistant to the assistant."
Breakthrough with "Cheers"
A significant portion of the episode focuses on the creation and evolution of "Cheers," with James Burroughs recounting pivotal moments and challenges faced during its production.
Casting and Character Development
Woody discusses the casting process, particularly the introduction of new characters to fill the void left by departing cast members.
Woody Harrelson (40:43): "So, no, you stuck in my head. I remember. I really wanted you to. I was outvoted on that."
James reflects on the chemistry between the cast and the show's initial struggles.
James Burroughs (32:05): "You really are and were and are my daddy in show business. You were so amazing."
Behind-the-Scenes Dynamics
The hosts delve into the intricate dynamics of working on a live-audience sitcom, emphasizing the balance between maintaining comedic timing and fostering a familial atmosphere on set.
Woody Harrelson (33:30): "When we said you were doing great, we had backup. The fact that the audiences... they loved the show."
James Burroughs highlights the importance of feedback and adaptability in comedy writing and directing.
James Burroughs (37:44): "You were able to tell the actors, hey, this is what the writers need... you were a great translator to both camps."
Challenges and Triumphs
Adapting to Changes
The episode touches upon the challenges faced when key cast members departed the show, and the creative solutions implemented to keep "Cheers" fresh and engaging.
Woody Harrelson (40:08): "We thought a lot about it. And then the thing that influenced us for another bartender for Cassie..."
Award Recognition and Industry Impact
Discussions reveal the show's journey from struggling ratings to critical acclaim, emphasizing the significance of Emmy wins in boosting its popularity.
Woody Harrelson (34:05): "Because the Emmys helped."
Personal Reflections and Lasting Legacy
As the conversation winds down, both Woody and James express deep gratitude and emotional reflections on their collaborative journey.
James Burroughs (59:35): "You're so sweet. Your turn, Woody."
Woody Harrelson (61:03): "The relationship I have with you, it still goes on... I cherish you forever."
James Burroughs praises Woody's leadership and the familial bond fostered on the set.
James Burroughs (59:34): "You were the greatest leader or papa, you know, to all of us."
Conclusion
The episode concludes with heartfelt acknowledgments and expressions of enduring friendship between James Burroughs and Woody Harrelson. Listeners are left with a profound appreciation for the collaborative spirit and personal connections that shaped the success of "Cheers."
James Burroughs (62:41): "Thank you, Jimmy, for spending that time with us. We love you very much."
Woody Harrelson (62:50): "That was, you know, to create a child like Cheers and have it go on and live on is just amazing to me."
Notable Quotes
- Woody Harrelson (00:32): "I like to say in Thanksgiving we were the 72nd show out of 71."
- James Burroughs (37:44): "You were a great translator to both camps."
- Woody Harrelson (61:03): "The relationship I have with you, it still goes on... I cherish you forever."
- James Burroughs (62:41): "Thank you, Jimmy, for spending that time with us. We love you very much."
Key Takeaways
- Collaborative Spirit: The success of "Cheers" was deeply rooted in the strong collaborative relationships between directors, actors, and writers.
- Adaptability: Navigating cast changes and maintaining comedic integrity were pivotal in sustaining the show's longevity.
- Personal Bonds: The enduring friendships formed on set significantly contributed to the creative and supportive environment essential for the show's success.
- Legacy: James Burroughs' influence extended beyond "Cheers," shaping the landscape of multicam sitcoms and leaving an indelible mark on pop culture.
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