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Podcast Summary: "Where Everybody Knows Your Name" – Jesse Eisenberg (Live in Austin, TX)

Podcast: Where Everybody Knows Your Name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson (sometimes)
Episode: Jesse Eisenberg (Live in Austin, TX)
Air Date: November 12, 2025

Episode Overview

In this lively, warm, and candid live episode, Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson reunite at the Alamo Drafthouse in Austin, Texas, for their first-ever live recording. Their guest: the multifaceted Jesse Eisenberg—actor, writer, director, and playwright, known for The Social Network, Zombieland, A Real Pain, and the new film Now You See Me, Now You Don't. The conversation ebbs between hilarious exchanges, reflections on creative processes, personal vulnerability, and moving discussions about activism and altruism. Alongside audience Q&A, the episode is a testament to the camaraderie, humility, and depth shared by these three, both on and off the screen.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Compliments, Deflection, and Handling Public Praise

Jesse playfully dodges early compliments about his playwriting, leading to a discussion on why acknowledgment feels tricky for some.
Jesse Eisenberg (@03:54):
“Almost everybody in my life works so much harder than me. And no one knows who they are...So I don’t feel worthy of any acknowledgment...people just want to see somebody they've seen on television in the flesh, and so they say a nice thing to them.”

2. On Social Media Avoidance and Privacy

None of the three are active on social media. Jesse jokes about the perils, saying he’d likely “say something stupid on the first day and I would be canceled from society.”
Jesse Eisenberg (@05:42):
“I’m terrified of what people already know about me in the world.”

3. First Meeting & Chemistry on ‘Zombieland’

Jesse recounts his first screen test with Woody:
“I remember thinking, whoa, he’s thin... But I also want to just make sure he’s thin...” (@07:01) and lauds Woody as a “genius improviser.”
Their first time smoking weed together is described using a “cheerleader analogy,” emphasizing the genuine, friendly nature of their connection rather than a celebrity thrill.

4. Acting as Therapy & Embodying Confidence

Jesse and Woody reflect on how playing certain characters allows them to access facets of themselves they otherwise don’t—confidence, activism, or boldness.
Jesse Eisenberg on Daniel Atlas (@10:09):
“It’s like the most mentally healthy thing I could do...acting allowed me...to kind of step outside yourself.”

5. Activism, Upbringing, and Giving Back

Jesse describes his wife’s activism (“if you’re not doing something to help a cause during the day, your life doesn’t have real meaning”—@14:22), contrasts it with his academic parents (his mother was a children’s birthday clown), and discusses his volunteering at Bloomington’s Middle Way House.
Woody reflects on how playing Larry Flynt changed him, making him more open to public activism.

6. Anonymous Kidney Donation

One of the episode’s most moving revelations: Jesse is scheduled to donate a kidney anonymously.
- Inspired by an episode of effective altruism, Jesse describes how easy it is and clarifies the “voucher program” that protects his family’s future medical needs.
Jesse Eisenberg (@17:04):
“I appreciate you complimenting me for it...but it’s such a minimal thing. You’re in the hospital for two days...and it like genuinely will save lives.”

7. Food, Health, and Woody’s Diet

Jesse reveals that, despite his family’s vegetarian background, Woody is the “healthiest person I know,” joking about Woody’s unique dietary regimen on set.

8. ‘Now You See Me, Now You Don't’ – Cast, Tricks, & On-Set Stories

The dynamic on set: New and returning cast make for a fun, laughter-filled shoot; Jesse’s fears are allayed by the quality of new actors.
Discussion of the technical training involved: Jesse delved into sleight of hand, Woody trained with a mentalist.
Jesse and Woody debate the ethics of revealing/masking magic tricks, drawing parallels to creative transparency in acting.

9. Stage Fright, Anxiety, and Coping Mechanisms

Jesse and both hosts open up about pre-performance anxiety.
Jesse Eisenberg (@33:04):
(On his Zombieland audition)
“I had, for the very first time, a true nervous breakdown...But I was able to get through it, and it’s become a staple of my psychological life—this scene.”
Ted discusses psychosomatic symptoms before big events and Woody admits to sleepless, anxious nights before filming.

10. Creative Process & Writing

Audience asks about writing routines:
- Jesse: Focuses on momentum, carves out time while family’s on vacation; likes to write in focused bursts.
- Woody: Would like to do another live film, conceptually set in Denmark, inspired by his “Lost in London” experiment.
Jesse Eisenberg (@52:34):
“Having a kid has kind of helped me focus...I stay active and try to focus my time because I’m trying to write from a place of...momentum.”

11. ‘A Real Pain’ – Film Location & Personal History

Jesse was originally working on a script set in Mongolia but, after seeing an ad for “Auschwitz tours with lunch,” pivoted the story to Poland, finding deeper personal and historical resonance.
Filming took place in his family’s actual pre-war home; Jesse and his child gained Polish citizenship as a result.
Jesse Eisenberg (@43:06):
“My family lived in this small town in this small house...history is so horrible, but it was a really kind of warm, almost reconciliatory feeling.”

12. Audience Q&A Highlights

On Zombieland 3: Both doubt a sequel’s likelihood, not due to lack of fan interest but studio economics.
On Champions: Woody recalls his heartfelt experience working with a diverse, nontraditional cast, improvising and building genuine relationships.
On anxiety and performance: Jesse advises channeling nervousness into the character for actors, and for everyone else, recognizes authenticity over polish as an asset.

13. Favorite Magic Scene

Audience asks about the favorite trick from Now You See Me. Jesse and Woody recall the chip-passing scene with awe, praising the "quick change" routine as especially impressive.

Notable Quotes & Moments

On Compliments:
"He won’t take in a single compliment. We’re going to compliment him; he won’t take it." – Woody Harrelson (@03:39)
On Woody’s Reputation:
“I should have, like, a frat boy feeling about Woody Harrelson is smoking [with me]... and I didn’t. I was just like, what a nice guy dropping me off at my hotel.” – Jesse Eisenberg (@07:07)
On Altruism:
“You can donate half your liver [or a kidney]... like, genuinely will save lives. And your health is totally fine.” – Jesse Eisenberg (@18:32)
On Stage Fright:
“I shut down...just sitting there real...Realizing whatever I do with my face right now is going to be in a movie.” – Jesse Eisenberg (@33:13)
Woody on Jesse’s Role in Zombieland:
"When he auditioned for Zombieland, it was very clear that he was the guy...but you know how studios are." – Woody Harrelson (@31:24)
On Authenticity:
“What you have is so much more important and special than...putting on something that wouldn’t feel natural to you.” – Jesse Eisenberg, to an anxious audience member (@57:00)
On Creative Focus:
“Having a kid has kind of helped me focus. Normally I would just like, if you have all the time in the world...my brain turns to mush, you know.” – Jesse Eisenberg (@52:34)

Key Timestamps

00:32 – Jesse thanks the hosts; comedic banter about research and preparation.
01:39 – Jesse: “I'm so honored to be on your show...”
03:54 – Jesse discusses his discomfort with praise.
05:42 – Social media avoidance.
07:01 – First meeting and early impressions during Zombieland.
10:09 – Acting and self-confidence.
13:03–14:22 – Activism, the Middle Way House, and family influences.
16:57 – Jesse confirms upcoming kidney donation.
21:19 – Woody’s health and diet on set.
27:50 – Magic training; mentalism and hypnotism on set.
33:04 – Jesse’s panic attack anecdote.
39:24 – Woody lauds A Real Pain as a “masterwork.”
43:06 – Filming in Jesse’s ancestral home in Poland.
47:59 – Audience Q&A: Zombieland 3, Champions, creative process, anxiety tips.
57:00 – Jesse supports an anxious audience member.
58:44 – On favorite Now You See Me tricks.
61:10 – Episode wraps as they prepare for the screening.

Overall Tone

The tone is intimate, self-deprecating, and a playful, affectionate camaraderie underpins the whole episode. Vulnerability and humor intertwine seamlessly. Jesse’s earnest, introspective style is juxtaposed with Woody’s breezy, earthy warmth and Ted’s gently teasing, thoughtful guidance.

Conclusion

This unguarded, laughter-filled episode provides a behind-the-scenes look at artistic partnership, navigating fame, the complexities of praise, and the meaning of giving back. Listeners are treated to unique industry insight, moving personal stories, and the infectious, easygoing chemistry among three friends who, despite their divergent paths, always seem glad to be in each other’s company.

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[00:00]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
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[00:33]
Jesse Eisenberg
Woody. Woody, your research does pay attention.
[00:36]
Woody Harrelson
You think I'm just going to come in here unprepared like some schmo?
[00:50]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Welcome back to where everybody knows your name. Today's episode is a little special. Woody and I got together at the Alamo Drafthouse here in Austin, Texas for our very first live podcast. It's part of an event for Woody's new movie, now youw See Me, now youw Don't. Our guest is Jesse Eisenberg. He's an actor, writer, director, and playwright who you know from such films as the Social Network, the Zombieland films. He also wrote, directed, and acted in A Real Pain, an amazing film, and much more. Their new movie, now youw See Me, now youw don't is in theaters November 14th. So let's get into it. Here's our live podcast with Jesse Eisenberg.
[01:40]
Jesse Eisenberg
I'm so honored to be on your show. Thank you so much for having me.
[01:42]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Good. That was good.
[01:43]
Jesse Eisenberg
And adding this kind of unnerving live element, too, to make me feel really comfortable.
[01:52]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah, I just. I can't see you even doing an interview, much less a live interview.
[01:57]
Jesse Eisenberg
I can't picture myself doing anything. And then sometimes during the day things happen. And then at the end of the day, I think, yeah, I shouldn't have done any of that stuff.
[02:07]
Woody Harrelson
Let's welcome Hope feeling.
[02:08]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Hopefully this isn't one of those. I hope those aren't one. This is not one of those moments.
[02:12]
Jesse Eisenberg
It will be, but it's a nightly problem for me. But I'm so thrilled to be on your show. It's. And so nice to finally meet you.
[02:22]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
You, too. I've been sitting here thinking. You have. You both write plays. Big contradiction. That. That makes sense. When you look at Jesse. This doesn't make sense, but thank you.
[02:36]
Woody Harrelson
I think just visually.
[02:38]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Just visually.
[02:38]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[02:39]
Woody Harrelson
No, can you. Oh, here we go. Dude, do you. I've seen four. I think you've written five plays.
[02:46]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[02:46]
Woody Harrelson
Is that right?
[02:47]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[02:47]
Woody Harrelson
You're like the only four of them. And they're phenomenal. Phenomenal writing, phenomenal direction. Every one of them I thought was sensational.
[02:57]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh, thank you so much. I've seen your plays. And the most impressive thing I've ever seen in a movie theater is a live movie that you wrote, directed, acted in and filmed live. And it was beamed to Bloomington, Indiana, where I saw it. That was the most incredible thing anybody that I know personally in the arts has ever accomplished in the streets of London. It was the most unbelievable thing. If you have not seen Lost in London, watch. It's the most incredible achievement anybody I know has ever done. It's unbelievable. I still can't believe that you pulled it off.
[03:29]
Woody Harrelson
I don't know how you turned my compliment to you into this boomerang deflection.
[03:35]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
You're great at deflection.
[03:36]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, you must deflection. I'll talk you through my plays.
[03:39]
Woody Harrelson
He won't take in a single compliment. We're going to compliment him. He won't take it.
[03:45]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
What do you do with acknowledgement? It is tricky for everybody.
[03:49]
Jesse Eisenberg
You mean, what does.
[03:49]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
How do you handle acknowledgement? What happens to you when people praise you?
[03:54]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh, I don't know. I find, like our profession over praises and asks for not so much effort. So I've developed a kind of guilty conscience about that. You know, almost everybody in my life works so much harder than me. And no one knows who they are or what they do or stops them on the street to tell them that they liked something they did 10 years ago. So I don't feel worthy of any acknowledgement. It seems always silly to me. But I do understand that people want to talk to me in public because they've seen me in something. And so there's the feeling I want to talk to that person. I've seen them in something. And so they have to say a nice thing. Because otherwise you can't just go up and say, hi, I've seen your face in a thing, and I want to look at your face now. And so the thing they end up saying to you is, hey, you're really good at whatever thing. Cause it's a polite way to meet a stranger. And so that's how I think of it, that people just want to see somebody they've seen on television in the flesh, and so they say a nice thing to them do. I think everybody who comes up to me has thought about. I really like what that person's contributing. I don't think that crosses people's mind as much as they just want to have a little interaction with somebody they've seen on tv. And it's very sweet for me, and it makes me feel nice, and they feel nice And. But I don't take it as anything like a compliment, you know, like, you know what I mean?
[05:06]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
I don't. So anyone here who feels his compliment, I will stay for two hours afterward. And if you have any nice things to say. Oh, yeah, one more thing, because I'm leading somewhere with this. You both don't do social media, right? You don't have a phone. You wouldn't. Do you know what social media is?
[05:27]
Woody Harrelson
Social media. Oh, no, I. Sorry.
[05:30]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
You don't, though, do you?
[05:31]
Woody Harrelson
No, I don't. No, I don't do social media. But I didn't know that you didn't do social media. Although it does kind of make sense to me.
[05:38]
Jesse Eisenberg
I barely do social.
[05:40]
Woody Harrelson
Right, right, Social media.
[05:43]
Jesse Eisenberg
No, no. I'm like, you know, I'm terrified of what people already know about me in the world. I don't. You know, I try to limit. No, yeah. Also, I. Knowing me, I would say something stupid on the first day and I would be canceled from society. I would say something that seemed so innocuous to me and is the most offensive thing in the world just because I'm an idiot.
[06:03]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
And you guys have worked four times together, right? The two.
[06:06]
Woody Harrelson
Five times. Yeah.
[06:08]
Jesse Eisenberg
We did a TV show of. Of all the family.
[06:11]
Woody Harrelson
All in the family. Oh, my God.
[06:13]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Okay.
[06:14]
Woody Harrelson
Jimmy didn't do that one. That's right.
[06:16]
Jesse Eisenberg
No, that's right. But it was a great episode. Amazing.
[06:19]
Woody Harrelson
It was cool.
[06:20]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Your dear friend didn't see it. I'm sorry.
[06:23]
Jesse Eisenberg
No, that's okay.
[06:24]
Woody Harrelson
You got shit to do, man.
[06:26]
Jesse Eisenberg
It was just the most riveting half hour of television.
[06:28]
Woody Harrelson
I mean, it was live.
[06:30]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[06:31]
Woody Harrelson
Something a lot of people took the time.
[06:33]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Okay, so here.
[06:34]
Jesse Eisenberg
Substantive.
[06:35]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Yeah, here's what I've been leading up to. You guys have done so in the.
[06:39]
Woody Harrelson
Leading up to phase.
[06:40]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Okay, I'm leading up to this. So. You have so many similarities. You behave the same way in many situations. I've just been trying and ever since I heard we were gonna be doing this. To picture what it was like for you the first time you smoked marijuana with Woody.
[06:56]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh, yeah. It was at a screen test for a movie. No, first. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
[07:00]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Kidding.
[07:01]
Jesse Eisenberg
No, I met him at a screen test for Zombieland. That's where I met him. And I remember just. It's a weird. Yo. You know, thank you. I remember staring at him. I was so distracted. Cause we were supposed to be sitting in a car together. So they placed us like he was here, and I was Here. And I was auditioning. I was so nervous. It was in Los Angeles and everything. I remember thinking, whoa, he's thin. I just remember looking over and I was like, I got to say my line. But I also want to just make sure he's thin. I'd like. Because I kept looking over, I was like, wow, you were so fit. I don't know why that was the thing that struck me. And so funny. So, so funny. Because, you know, when you watch a funny actor in a movie, you don't know if they're funny. And a lot of times they're not necessarily funny. But he is, like, a genius improviser. And so part of the nature of that movie was a little, like, loose. And so we were doing that, and I was like, oh, my God, he's unbelievably quick. Which is not something that you always get even by an actor who's super funny in movies. And then first time we smoked weed together, actually, I think I probably do remember. Maybe. I think you dropped me off at my hotel in Valdosta, Georgia. We were shooting the first two weeks of the movie in Valdosta, Georgia, and Woody, I think, drove me in a Prius to my hotel, and he was living in a house there. And I think, yeah, I think that was it. But I. Yeah, I think that was it. And I remember. I remember thinking, like, oh, I should have, like, a frat boy feeling about Woody Harrelson is smoking. And I didn't. I was just like, what a nice guy dropping me off at my hotel. And then I think I told my friend, and my friend had that frat boy thing, like, whoa, dude. It's like meeting Michael Jordan on the back, you know? And I was like, ah, it didn't feel that way, man. And it was like I kissed a cheerleader. And then my friends were like. And I was like, no, it's really love, you know, like, don't make it base. Yeah. And, like, we're seeing each other again, you know, so don't make it awkward. And if I introduce you to her, just be cool. Don't be like, I love your cheering and I'm a big fan of the team. Just be cool, because we might actually wind up married. And then it'll be awkward for you that you acted like such a dope when you met her. So it was like that.
[09:19]
Woody Harrelson
God, I love that cheerleader analogy, dude. That kind of hit home.
[09:23]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[09:27]
Woody Harrelson
But, you know, it's interesting because you say, you know, I'm not one of those people trained to Always bring it back to the movie. But to bring it back to now you see me, now you don't. You say that this is your favorite character. Daniel Atlas.
[09:43]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah. By like, a million times.
[09:46]
Woody Harrelson
You know, it really is a character. It is so different from you because he's the most confident guy.
[09:52]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah. I know.
[09:55]
Woody Harrelson
You're always troubled and doubtful. He's like, just pure confidence and brash and tough and all those things you're not. I know. I know.
[10:06]
Jesse Eisenberg
He's like. He's attractive and he looks. He cleans up well. You know what I mean?
[10:09]
Woody Harrelson
Handsome. Handsome.
[10:10]
Jesse Eisenberg
I forgot to mention nice to his friends and everything. Yeah. Yeah. It's a departure, but I don't. Yeah. This, to me, is, like, the most mentally healthy thing I could do. You know, I don't know about you guys, but part of me wanted to get into acting because I felt just personally embarrassed to be myself. And acting allowed me. I think for a lot of actors, it allows you to kind of step outside yourself briefly or whatever. And, like, I haven't had a lot of that because a lot of times I'm playing people who are, like, kind of depressives or troubled or anxious. But this movie is doing the thing that, like, I, in some ways, got into it for, you know, so I can, like, get outside who I really am and, like, you know, And I just love it so much. Do you guys have those feelings? Those similar feelings of, oh, this part allows me to do this thing I like more about myself than my actual self.
[10:56]
Woody Harrelson
Teddy.
[10:57]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Woodrow. Oh, okay. Yeah. I think that the last, like, 15 years or so that I have been able to, whatever it is I'm going through in life at that age, miraculously kind of find a piece that fits that character. And then it really pleases me because I don't have to pretend, like, bored to death. I was turning 16. It was like, hey, hey, don't leave me behind. Younger folks, I still want to play whatever it is you're doing. Cut me in. Please don't leave me out. And that was the character. And now at my age, it's like, could you help me cross the street? Characters which seem fit, but. Yeah, I like. It's not like it's therap. Well, it is kind of therapeutic, but it's. Yeah, that's my story. I seem to find things. Whatever phase I'm going through in life.
[11:58]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah. Woody, have you had a character that you felt like, I wish I was this person more than who I am?
[12:05]
Woody Harrelson
I don't. This isn't a direct. I'M not saying, yes, that this character I would like to be, but when I played Larry Flint.
[12:15]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[12:15]
Woody Harrelson
I felt much more confident, you know.
[12:18]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[12:19]
Woody Harrelson
And I felt like I would try, you know, I got arrested immediately, you know, because of, you know, protesting things and things that. It kind of helped things in my. That were minimal in my nature become more pronounced. And I wouldn't want to be a pornographer. Don't get me wrong. Hey, I don't believe in pornography. I just want to. I want to be clear.
[12:49]
Jesse Eisenberg
You don't believe in like the democratization of it. Right. Like where everybody gets see.
[12:55]
Woody Harrelson
Should be for the special fee.
[12:56]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right. Wait, but did you, you mean you became like more of a public activist after that movie?
[13:03]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah.
[13:04]
Jesse Eisenberg
That's so interesting. Wow. For causes that you had already been part of and feeling though, right?
[13:10]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah, well, when I would, I, I'd give money to or I'd support, but I never thought, oh, you know, become an activist, climb the Golden Gate Bridge. I never would have done that kind of thing without having played that part. You know, it made me say, well, you know, it's okay to get arrested for something you believe in.
[13:30]
Jesse Eisenberg
Right. Well, that's so interesting.
[13:32]
Woody Harrelson
And now I'm back to. I don't think I'd want to get arrested, period. You know, you're the kind of guy like, you have the daddy. The that home that you support in Bloomington. In Bloomington for women who've been abused and such.
[13:51]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[13:51]
Woody Harrelson
What's that called?
[13:52]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh, yeah, that's. It's called the Middle Way House. It's like a domestic violence shelter in Indiana. And my mother in law ran it for 35 years. So, you know, my wife and I volunteered there for years and my wife's been working there since she's a kid. Yeah.
[14:04]
Woody Harrelson
And that's so cool you do that, man.
[14:06]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[14:06]
Woody Harrelson
And it's really give back.
[14:08]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh, and what's great about it is just that Larry Flint transition to the domestic violence shelter.
[14:14]
Woody Harrelson
I wanted to get all the way out from under Larry Flint. Well, that doesn't sound good either. But you get over into.
[14:22]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh, you're talking about like activism and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was mainly through, you know, my wife was raised to like be an activist. Like, you know, my wife was raised by activists. So she was raised to like, you know, if you're not doing something to help a cause during the day, your life doesn't have real meaning. And so I, and you know, I'm in the arts and got into movies when I was younger. And so, you know, I feel a little. What is it called? A little, you know, behind her, you know, in terms of, like, you know, doing that kind of work.
[14:55]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
But didn't you come from that in your family?
[14:59]
Jesse Eisenberg
No, no, no. My parents are academics. My dad's a teacher. My mom's a teacher. But my mom was a birthday party clown when I was younger, so she did, like, children's birthday parties, so kind of entertainment, but in a local New Jersey. You know, she was doing birthday parties and stuff. But, no, they're great people. Great people, but they're not, like activists.
[15:15]
Woody Harrelson
Not, you know, not get pulled over. She'd be in her clown outfit. The cop would be like, what?
[15:21]
Jesse Eisenberg
That's exactly right. Yeah, she was. She was. She was like a nervous driver, and she's driving from parties to parties and all this stuff to, you know, on the weekends. Yeah. And she would get pulled over and, you know, never get a ticket. Yeah. I have a joke, but I'm not going to say it, but. But it's so funny.
[15:36]
Woody Harrelson
It feels like you should. Come on, man.
[15:39]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Don't be a teaser.
[15:40]
Woody Harrelson
This is a open, warm, accepting Texas crowd.
[15:43]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, yeah, she was dressed as a clown, so she didn't get, you know, a ticket. I have such a good joke, but I would. I want to do. If I could meet everybody after with no cameras and all this stuff, I think.
[15:56]
Woody Harrelson
Oh, is this one of those get canceled jokes?
[15:58]
Jesse Eisenberg
No, no, no, no, no. It's just so. It's so niche.
[16:00]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
But hey, hey, I promise you, because we do have control of editing the podcast. I promise, word of honor, you. We're here that we will cut it.
[16:09]
Jesse Eisenberg
Every single person here has a telephone where it's.
[16:12]
Woody Harrelson
That's.
[16:12]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
That's.
[16:13]
Woody Harrelson
He's making a good case.
[16:14]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Good point. Oh, it's like social media, right?
[16:16]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I keep everything indoors. So, anyway, what are we talking about? I just turned it to my mom getting a ticket, so. Okay, I never thought I'd say this, but can we go back to Larry Flynt?
[16:32]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
No. Almost. Almost. And you brought this up the other day on a talk show, and we mentioned it, but. So, because one time you've said that, you know, your wife is doing everything good, and you're not, or however you phrased it, but in life. But you are scheduled to donate one of your kidneys anonymously in a month and a half.
[16:58]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, exactly. December 16th. Yeah, exactly.
[17:00]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Okay. Are we soaking that in? You know.
[17:04]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[17:06]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Can I ask the chain of events or thoughts that Led up to that.
[17:10]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So for me, what happened was like I was listening to a podcast like 12 years ago, and it was. They were doing an interview with somebody who was part of this effective altruist movement. These are people who are like. It was like a philosophy. And the kind of face of the company became face of the philosophy became this guy, Sam Bankman, fried. So the philosophy kind of like died with him. You know, he's the guy who was arrested, you know, for this Ponzi scheme of, you know, so anyway, of crypto, you know, currency or whatever. But nonetheless, they had some really great ideas. One of their ideas is like, we can live without both kidneys. We can live without. Actually, you can donate half your liver. Anybody could donate half their liver. And your liver will grow back and you live a full, healthy life. Same with donating a kidney. And when I was listening to it, it just seemed like a no brainer to me. Just seemed like, oh, that's something we should all just be doing. I didn't think of it as important thing. So I called. It was like, be the match or something. They send you a little vial, you spit in it. And so if your saliva matches somebody, they call you. And my saliva, I guess, never matched anybody. And then I was talking to a doctor friend, like, I don't know, in the summer, and I was like, you know, I've been wanting to do this. She's a doctor, you know. So I was asking her like, you know, I've always wanted to do this, but they never called me. And she was like, go across town to nyu. I live in New York City. She's like, it's the best, you know, best hospital in the world for this kind of thing. So I got. So I called him the next day, and day after that, I was in, getting blood tests and everything. And it's like, I appreciate you complimenting me for it or lauding me, but it's really like, it's such a minimal thing. It's such a minimal thing. You're in the hospital for two days. It's a laparoscopic procedure. And it like genuinely will save lives. And your health is totally fine.
[18:48]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
I'm not trying to make you. Whatever. I'm really not. It is. I do find it amazing, you know, did your wife. Yeah. Did your wife, family, mother. How does everyone feel? They're all thumbs up.
[19:03]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yes. Because there's a voucher program. So the way the kidney registry works now is like, you know, if you could make a list of all the people that you would have given a kidney to if they had needed it, and they'll be now at the top of the list. So normally a weight for a kidney is like five to seven years. Okay? But if you donate a kidney and you put those. You put certain names on that voucher list. So my family's going on the voucher list. So my kid needs a kidney, he'll be top of the list. Won't have to wait for any years. You see what I'm saying? So this is.
[19:35]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah.
[19:36]
Jesse Eisenberg
So everybody's happy with it. Because really, the thing I think a lot of people are hesitant about is not the surgery. Surgery is not that big a deal. It's not. Living with one kid, it's not big a deal. But I think it's like thinking, God, if my kids need a kidney, I'm not gonna be able to give it to them. But this. The way the registry has developed this process is so that they can be.
[19:53]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Well, it's brilliant. And I'm trying to circle around to your acting, because what you are. Sorry, my thought is you're intensely real, Jesse. Your acting's intensely real. You're writing, and your action in life is intensely real. And you're very. You don't think you're ashamed, do you, Woody? Or are you holding in?
[20:19]
Woody Harrelson
I can't imagine doing what you're doing, like, to give up a kidney. Now, I know you say you're fine with one kidney, right? Like, I would. I would trade you livers right now. Like, I would do that. And I know because you don't drink, like, you know me, so that would be, like, for me, a good thing. But I can't imagine, like, other than, you know, probably righteous bucks for a kidney.
[20:44]
Jesse Eisenberg
But wait, you're the healthiest person I know?
[20:47]
Woody Harrelson
That's a bad joke. What?
[20:47]
Jesse Eisenberg
You're the healthiest person I know.
[20:50]
Woody Harrelson
Oh, really?
[20:50]
Jesse Eisenberg
You were the healthiest? Yes. You're like, a comically healthy person.
[20:55]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah, but what about the marijuana and alcohol?
[20:58]
Jesse Eisenberg
I'm taking all of that into account. I've seen you eat. I mean, you know how he eats. You know, Woody's the healthiest person I know.
[21:06]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Whenever I see him, I pretend that today I'm eating that way too, literally, knowing that I was.
[21:13]
Woody Harrelson
You'd be so proud. And I'm like, you mean just today? Yeah, just today. Yeah.
[21:20]
Jesse Eisenberg
I got to go on his diet. When we were doing Zombieland, he had, you know, somebody was making his food, and it was, like, unbelievable. I come from actually vegetarian family. My family's vegetarian. But I'm not. And when I was eating that food, it made it fun, it made it great. Cause it was amazing food.
[21:38]
Woody Harrelson
Oh good.
[21:39]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah. You've managed to like, you know, find a way to do it that as like an outsider of your diet is like not compromised.
[21:48]
Woody Harrelson
Oh cool. Were you, were you more regular or was anything, were there any, I think positives?
[21:55]
Jesse Eisenberg
I got to check my diary from those times, but it's not so much a diary, it's just stuff like that. It's just, you know, morning, noon and night just taken into consideration that kind of stuff. And just to see if there are any patterns I should be concerned about. So I'll check.
[22:15]
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[25:47]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yes.
[25:48]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
More about the movie. More about the movie you have. You're about to watch it, so. But I don't want to spoil anything, but you had new cast members. How was that? Was that fun you had?
[25:59]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, they were great. Yeah. You know, it's the kind of thing that, like, you know, so, you know, Woody and I have been in three movies and so we're like, what now be three of these movies? Exactly. So we had developed a great ensemble. Dave Franco, Isla Fisher, and Lizzy Kaplan was in the second one. And it's a great team. I mean, it's the most fun group.
[26:20]
Woody Harrelson
Of people you can. Oh, God, is it fun. You laugh all day long.
[26:23]
Jesse Eisenberg
I mean, it's amazing. Like, we have such a good time. And so, you know, the concept of this was, of this movie was like, you know, these three younger, you know, magicians come in, we recruit them for this big trick, you know, and, you know, so of course it's like, you know, something that could go terribly wrong. You know, mainly I was just concerned they're not going to get great actors because, you know, you think, like, I don't know if they're getting, like young people. They wanted to be poppy and cool, but they hired like three, like, amazing actors. Like, you know, I would just like, I felt we got lucky. Like, they're all really good, really quick, really talented. They all take it seriously in Their own way. So it was not like anything I was worried about. And so. So it was great and felt really natural. I had, like, a few days of scenes with them before, like, the other cast got in there. And I really. Just thinking, oh, this is great. Everybody's gonna work out well. And it did. And the movie's really special. It's directed by our old friend Ruben Fleischer, who did both Zombieland movies. Woody did Venom with him. I did 30 minutes or less with him. So we've worked with him a lot. And he's an amazing shooter, visually amazing, very inventive, but loves comedy and loves actors so much like, does not consider himself, like, a funny person. He's like an appreciator of comedy, which is a really sweet thing for a director.
[27:39]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Did you guys work with people because you were doing stuff that you didn't naturally know how to do? I'm assuming some of the sleight of hand. And did you get trained for a while before the first one or this one?
[27:50]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, yeah, I did more like, sleight of hand stuff. Woody was amazing. Woody worked with Keith Barry. Do you remember that? The first movie? Do you want to talk about that at all? It was interesting collaboration.
[27:59]
Woody Harrelson
He was a mentalist, and he taught me some. I guess you could. I don't know. I tried hypnosis. We tried. We tried it. It's very hard to pull off because you don't know if the person's faking it.
[28:19]
Jesse Eisenberg
Is that part of hypnotism is that kind of knowing that people will go with it because of the environment they're in?
[28:26]
Woody Harrelson
Well, the hypnotism is when your conscious mind kind of gets subdued and drops down, and then your unconscious mind takes over. So you. That's how there's a certain suggestibility. You know, you can say to someone to do, you know. You know, walk like a rhino, make noise. You know, you can just get them to do crazy. And so. Yeah, well, I tried it a little. I found it kind of. I. I found that I got nervous right at the key part when you want to go sleep.
[29:02]
Jesse Eisenberg
You mean as a person receiving hypnotism or giving.
[29:05]
Woody Harrelson
Giving, Giving.
[29:06]
Jesse Eisenberg
Why'd you get nervous?
[29:08]
Woody Harrelson
You know, like, once you do that sleep thing, it's a big. You know, it's a move. You know, you grab them by the head. Sleep. And then when you open your eyes, blah, blah, blah, you know.
[29:22]
Jesse Eisenberg
Did you partly get nervous because you felt uncomfortable manipulating people? Because as a.
[29:28]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
No, not, no.
[29:31]
Jesse Eisenberg
Definitely not. Definitely not, no. Do you know what I mean, did you feel nervous because you're like putting somebody in a weird. Because I'll just say for me, if you don't want to answer it. Like, for doing magic now for me and learning it, I feel very uncomfortable when people ask me, how'd you do that? I feel uncomfortable not telling them. I don't like keeping that. It makes me feel.
[29:48]
Woody Harrelson
So you do tell them. Yeah, I'm supposed to tell people how you do the trick.
[29:53]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
I know someone told you all, so what is that?
[29:56]
Woody Harrelson
I know, but if you just tell everybody willy nilly, pretty soon it's not magic anymore.
[30:04]
Jesse Eisenberg
What is it?
[30:05]
Woody Harrelson
It's just manipulation.
[30:08]
Jesse Eisenberg
I mean, trade secrets.
[30:10]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Yeah. He showed me a card trick on the way over and would not tell me even the beginning of how to do it.
[30:19]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[30:20]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Can we talk later? Do you know the same card?
[30:22]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[30:23]
Woody Harrelson
He'll tell you for sure. He'll tell anybody here. It don't matter.
[30:28]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, exactly.
[30:29]
Woody Harrelson
Every trick in this movie, he'll tell you how.
[30:32]
Jesse Eisenberg
Well, some stuff. I don't know, like. No. And a lot of times the guys who are magic teachers won't tell me, probably because they know what I'd do with it. You know, I just feel so strange. You're like, talking to somebody, you know, it's not like our other jobs. Like when people ask you, you do an interview for a thing that you act in, and they ask you, how'd you think of it? You give an honest answer. Oh, I was on. You know, I thought of my brother and the relationship I have with him, and it kind of was similar to this relationship and that. And you give a real thing. I find it strange to do another performance for some people and they say, how'd you do? And you're like, I don't know.
[31:12]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
I can't tell you.
[31:12]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, it feels strange. I feel I'm withholding in a bad way.
[31:18]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Well, you're a good person.
[31:19]
Jesse Eisenberg
I don't know.
[31:22]
Woody Harrelson
He's a great person.
[31:24]
Jesse Eisenberg
Thanks.
[31:24]
Woody Harrelson
You know, I don't mention this much, but when he was. When he auditioned for Zombieland, it was very clear that he was the guy to play this part. There's no question, but you know how studios are. So the studio thought this other guy who became famous in this rather silly commercial should be the guy, because he's known through this silly commercial. Right. So I had to call and beg, please, this is the guy. And remember she. I told you this. And then she was like, you know what? If you feel this passionately, then, okay. And then, then I Got a call from the guys saying, you know, that you were in Reuben and Gavin, and they were like, he's in. I didn't say anything. I was just.
[32:18]
Jesse Eisenberg
Thank you so much.
[32:19]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Not a kidney, but, you know, so nice.
[32:22]
Woody Harrelson
It was.
[32:22]
Jesse Eisenberg
What's that? Not a.
[32:23]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
It's not a kidney, but he gave.
[32:24]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[32:26]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Career.
[32:27]
Jesse Eisenberg
That's.
[32:28]
Woody Harrelson
It's as close as I'll get to the kidney.
[32:30]
Jesse Eisenberg
To an organ.
[32:31]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah, to an organ.
[32:32]
Jesse Eisenberg
It's definitely. Yeah, it's like a nail. No, thank you so much. That was so nice of you. And I mean, I know you didn't do, like, as a favor, but I.
[32:41]
Woody Harrelson
No, I did it because it made the movie way better.
[32:44]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, yeah. No, no, you.
[32:45]
Woody Harrelson
What's that one great thing you said? One of your improv things. You say one and done. That's. That's what I say. Well, I said it once.
[32:56]
Jesse Eisenberg
Once, yeah. What had happened?
[32:59]
Woody Harrelson
And now I've heard that so many times. Have you guys heard, like one and done? You know, that. That came from this guy.
[33:05]
Jesse Eisenberg
You know what happened? This is. I never told this story publicly, actually, but, I mean. Or privately. I've just thought about it. So. And what happened was. So we did this audition scene to get in for me to get into the movie. Of course, the one I was telling you about, that. My screen test, we did this audition scene, and it's a really well written scene. Rhett Reese, Paul Wernick, they did some writing on this movie, too. Great writers and everything. Really well written scene, especially for like a actiony kind of movie. Very funny, good wordplay, everything. And so we did this scene in the audition. It was my scene. I memorized it up and down. I'm on an airplane going to Los Angeles for the screen test. So I got this scene in my head. So, you know, so embedded in my brain. And we get to set to do the scene, and I had for the very first time, a true nervous breakdown. And the way my nervous breakdown manifested was I shut down. And so the camera goes on me and camera goes on Woody's side. And he's exactly what you'd imagine. He's hysterically funny. He's loose, he's interesting and everything. Camera turns around on me. And I'm young, but I'm kind of aware of camera angles. Now I know this is my turn. You know what I mean? When I first started acting, I didn't know what my turn was. I don't know what the camera's seeing now. I know this is my turn to do this scene. That I had been doing for now eight months, whatever, since the auditions. And I shut down and it was the most terrifying thing that's happened to me on a set ever in my life. I've never had that feeling on stage or a movie set again. It's that terrifying frozen shutdown, frozen. And I am just sitting there real. And I'm realizing whatever I do with my face right now is going to be in a movie. And so if I like close my eyes now, that's in a movie. And if I say this word like that, that's in a movie. And it was just this complete, like self aware, out of body, awful. The opposite of being loose and everything. And so the camera's on me and I panicked and I couldn't say the lines from the scene. And it was a great written scene. And I started just saying random jokey bullshit because I was panicking that every time I would say a line from the scene it would come out weirdly because I was so self conscious. And so I have like improvisations in that scene that are just out of a pure and utter terror. And I, you know, I talked to my therapist about it. You know, I'm like. Because one of the things I think about all the time is because I'm. I'm doing a play now in New York, I have stage fright. What I always talk to the therapist about it is that one time in Zombieland, something went terribly wrong and I was able to get through it, you know, and this is my story of like, it's okay, I can. It couldn't be, you know, it couldn't be as bad as that time in Zombieland. And I got through it then. So it's become in some ways like a staple of my psychological life, this scene. And the line you just said, it just came out of pure anxiety. And I'm lucky that what happens to me when I'm nervous is some adrenaline thing. Yeah, some adrenaline thing comes on and I save myself in a weird way.
[36:00]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Do you ever get panic attacks?
[36:02]
Woody Harrelson
I get panic before I start a movie every time. And I can't sleep the night before. The wife is right there. She can attest to. I'm just like, I'm moving around, I can't. And I. But then after the first day of shooting, then I start to mellow and by the second it's just everything's rolling, you know.
[36:21]
Jesse Eisenberg
But even in a movie like this, a third.
[36:23]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah.
[36:24]
Jesse Eisenberg
Wow.
[36:24]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah. Well, probably less so with this, just because I know you guys so well and. But I still get nervous before the first day.
[36:32]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
I manifest the illnesses that Mary very sweetly goes. I know. You do that every time you. You'll be fine. No, this is arthritis. Big, capital A. I know, I know.
[36:44]
Jesse Eisenberg
Wait, what do you mean?
[36:45]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
I have ailments that will make it impossible for me to work.
[36:50]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh.
[36:50]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
With my fear.
[36:52]
Jesse Eisenberg
You mean like, you have psychosomatic arthritis?
[36:54]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Yes. I was fearful last night thinking about this. I wake up and I'm excited because somehow I've gotten past.
[37:03]
Woody Harrelson
I thought you were saying I wake up and I have herpes.
[37:06]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. Exactly what I said.
[37:10]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Really? You both went to socially transmitted diseases. That's where you went?
[37:15]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I go there all the time.
[37:18]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Arthritis, that's all. That's the only place I go.
[37:21]
Jesse Eisenberg
You know, I have this other weird thing.
[37:23]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Go on, please.
[37:23]
Jesse Eisenberg
Now that we're talking about this, if I'm doing a play and I can't get sick, like. And I'm really panicked. I really get panicked about being sick when I'm doing a show. If I'm listening to a podcast, which I do all the time, and somebody has a cold on the podcast, I cannot listen to it. If somebody is a little nasal on the thing, I turn it off. I'm so paranoid about getting sick that if I hear somebody talk who's sick, I have to walk away or shut it off.
[37:49]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
How are you when you direct? Cause you're an amazing director.
[37:53]
Woody Harrelson
Audio germs.
[37:53]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
I'm sorry. No, sorry, sorry, sorry.
[37:56]
Woody Harrelson
I do apologize.
[38:00]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
I do say sorry a lot, don't I?
[38:01]
Woody Harrelson
No, you do.
[38:02]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Thank you for that.
[38:04]
Woody Harrelson
I'm sorry that you.
[38:05]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Anyway, so directing all of your little insecurities or fears or this, do they vanish? Because you're the answer man. You're the guy who has the.
[38:15]
Jesse Eisenberg
No. A little bit. Yeah. I find, like, the more busy I am, the more. Okay, I am. You know, it's so funny because, like, the movies. So I did, like, now you see, me, three is like a big movie. It's a spectacle. It means a lot of waiting in your trailer and then going to set and maybe only having one line. And, you know, I love these movies, as I said, more than anything in my life. But there's some times where, like, you're waiting in a trailer for three hours to say one line, like, guys, we gotta go. And because you have that inflated amount of time, you're, like, in the trailer going, like, guys, we gotta go. No, no, no, no, no, no. Guys, we gotta go. No, because you just have, like, More time than is needed, you know, And I find when I'm like, the movie I did right before, now you see me, now you don't. This movie was like a movie I was acting, writing, directing in, and. And I didn't have any time, like, to think, like, oh, you know, what are we doing today? You know, you're just kind of on it all the time. You're thinking about weather and, you know, the actor's makeup person is coming in from the States and if they're not going to make their flight because it's raining in Denver, you know, you're thinking about all this stuff that has nothing to do with your own anxieties. And I find that is just better for me. Yeah.
[39:25]
Woody Harrelson
Hey, one might get the impression you have some anxiety about things, so. But I wanted to say a real pain is, to me, it's just a masterwork. And I, you know, I know there's times where people complain how they got robbed, but I really felt like you not only should have been nominated for Best Picture, you should have won Best Picture. I thought that was just a masterwork.
[39:53]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh, thanks a lot.
[39:54]
Woody Harrelson
So great.
[39:55]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Bravo.
[39:56]
Jesse Eisenberg
That's great.
[39:56]
Woody Harrelson
And you and Karen together, I mean, just amazing.
[40:00]
Jesse Eisenberg
Dude, thanks a lot. That's so nice. Yeah.
[40:03]
Woody Harrelson
And so I. But I read. I didn't realize this, that you, you were gonna do that movie. It starts with a B, some other city. You weren't gonna do it at Auschwitz and you saw an ad or something.
[40:21]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh, yeah. You mean it was a Poland? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was gonna do the movie in Mongolia, like, because I had been to Mongolia and I stayed in like a yurt on top of a mountain, just backpacking with my wife, you know, and it was so cool looking. And I was like, be amazing to shoot a movie here. It's. It's just such a fascinating place. And so I had. So I'd written a short story about these two guys who go to, you know, Mongolia and they have this experience on a. On a yurt farm. And it's. Their third friend had turned it into like this kind of, you know, very like, western resort thing. And, you know, one of the, you know, characters, the two friends, one of them goes crazy upset that their friends sold out. Anyway, so I was like, you know, maybe 30 pages into that script and it just wasn't working. And I, like, didn't know enough about Mongolian life. You know, I was there for like a week. I couldn't. And then I saw an ad online, as you suggested. Yeah. And it was like, the ad online was Auschwitz tours with lunch. It said, said Auschwitz tours and then in parentheses with lunch. Like, not all, you know. Yeah, let me finish that kind of ad. You know what I mean? And so, like, so I clicked on that thing and I was like, oh, I see why this ad came up on my thing. It was very tailor made for me. It was like, don't worry, you can see all the sad things, but you'll be comfortable. Which is like my mo. And then I changed it from Mongolia to like a Holocaust tour. And I knew. I'm fascinated by that history. Obviously, my family comes from Poland, so it became much more flowing out of me as a. To write.
[41:47]
Woody Harrelson
And the. And the house you filmed in at the end was your family's house until 39.
[41:52]
Jesse Eisenberg
Exactly. Woody, Woody, your research does pay attention.
[41:56]
Woody Harrelson
You think I'm just going to come in here unprepared, like some schmo?
[42:03]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
One mistake, I wasn't sure.
[42:07]
Jesse Eisenberg
No, that's so sweet. Yeah, basically.
[42:09]
Woody Harrelson
That's true, right?
[42:10]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, exactly. Yes. My family lived in this small town in this small house. And it was weird when we were doing location scouting for this movie, it was unlike anything else I've ever done because all the locations were not only in the script, but, like, were real places, you know. And so it was this fascinating experience of just trying to get access to all of these places, you know, a concentration camp, my family's house, small towns, monuments, you know, because, you know, because I was not writing, thinking maybe this will be a movie, you know, you're just kind of writing, thinking you could do anything, as most writers do, like, we could do anything. And then you come and come to terms with some practical, you know, situations, but nonetheless. Yeah, so that was my family's house. I was given, like, a key to the city and everything. It was really sweet. And, you know, the history is so horrible, you know, like what happened obviously to the Jews in this particular place and all over Poland in Europe. But it was a really kind of warm, almost reconciliatory feeling.
[43:06]
Woody Harrelson
And so you became a Polish citizen.
[43:09]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, then I got actual Polish citizenry. Ship. Yep.
[43:13]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah, I became a Polish citizen from the president.
[43:16]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, the president, who is outgoing. He's not in power anymore, so, like, towards the end of his term, he. You know, in order to get Polish citizenship, you either have to show, like, very strong blood ties, like your parents moved from there or you're working there for a decade, you speak the language and you pay taxes there, or there's like this third route, which is basically just like a governmental pardon, a presidential exception, I think it's called, which they give out to a few people. And because I had made this movie that showed Polish Poland in a nice light, which was my goal, even though the talking about the history that was not good there, you know, they appreciated it. And I kind of lobbied a little bit for myself, saying, I really want to reconnect to my family's history. You know, I thought about it in this way. Like, my family's been in New York since, like, 1918. For the most part. For the most part. And yet we think of ourselves as very, very American. You know, like a lot of Americans who've been here a short time. You think of yourselves as American and nothing else. And then when I was there in Poland, I realized, God, we'd been here a lot longer, and it's so strange that we just have no connection in any way. And, of course, the history and how it. How the connection ended is why, you know. But still. So I felt this kind of deep connection and a desire to reconnect.
[44:28]
Woody Harrelson
And was Banner there with you?
[44:30]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My kid got citizenship. Oh, yeah. My kid was in the movie playing my kid in the movie. A scene was cut, but not because of them. They did a good job, but just.
[44:39]
Woody Harrelson
It'S gotta hurt your kid, you know, like, hey, I was in it, remember?
[44:44]
Jesse Eisenberg
And then, yeah, it was weird. It was the one scene, like, everybody agreed was not good, but from the script perspective. And so we just reshot it. So this movie used to open where I'm saying goodbye to my family and everybody was like, you have this cool, interesting movie framed with the most unoriginal scene I've ever seen, which is, you know, guy packing up, okay, I'm going to Poland now to see my cousin. You know, just like, bullshit, expository nonsense. And so everybody said to cut it, but everybody agreed. My child was adorable in it.
[45:16]
Woody Harrelson
And do you and Banner still get along?
[45:19]
Jesse Eisenberg
You know, listen, the movie's been out. It's been kind of digested by the public, and we're back to kind of speaking, you know, not one on one, but we'll have somebody there. And normally it'll be, like, over a puzzle or a game, you know, something that we can talk about. That's not the.
[45:40]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
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[47:59]
Woody Harrelson
Oh, you are, buddy.
[48:01]
Jesse Eisenberg
Thanks.
[48:01]
Woody Harrelson
You are. Love you, man.
[48:03]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Do you want to take some Q and A questions?
[48:07]
Woody Harrelson
Let's do some Q and A.
[48:09]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Hey, just. Just be loud because we can't run up there with mics. But if anyone has some questions, holler. Zombieland 3.
[48:20]
Woody Harrelson
I heard that the. That the movie before has to be a big success in order to do a sequel.
[48:28]
Jesse Eisenberg
Really? It's not just if, like, the people who acted in it liked it.
[48:32]
Woody Harrelson
I wish.
[48:33]
Jesse Eisenberg
I know. Yeah.
[48:34]
Woody Harrelson
Super fun.
[48:36]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah. People love those movies. I think the second one, I think they probably maybe expected it to be like, more popular maybe. Is that right?
[48:43]
Woody Harrelson
I did.
[48:45]
Jesse Eisenberg
You did?
[48:46]
Woody Harrelson
I expected it.
[48:47]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah. But it's like a beloved movie, but for some reason I don't know. Yeah, it's not like as Popular as like whatever the bigger thing is, like, you know, Venom. It doesn't compare to a tenth of Venom in terms of like, popularity. But it's beloved.
[49:01]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah.
[49:02]
Jesse Eisenberg
Strange, right?
[49:03]
Woody Harrelson
I guess.
[49:04]
Jesse Eisenberg
Don't people tell you they love Zombieland so much when they meet you all the time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zombieland and now youw See Me are the two movies people come up to me for all the time. They love it, love it, love it. Yeah, yeah. But. Oh, thanks.
[49:16]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
You okay?
[49:18]
Woody Harrelson
I don't know. Something. Something in there felt weird, but. Yeah, you know, you're right. It's cool.
[49:24]
Jesse Eisenberg
Wait, what felt weird? I thought we're commiserated.
[49:26]
Woody Harrelson
Just the fact that we had a movie that didn't, you know.
[49:30]
Jesse Eisenberg
No, it's still popular, but it was not like, you know, cuz Ruben and you had. Just unlike Venom, which was like the most popular movie of the year before. Right, that's why I bring it up. But is this bad to talk about something in there?
[49:42]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
I'm enjoying it. Anything that he's in that didn't quite do well, it just lifts my spirit.
[49:47]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh, but it.
[49:48]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Because here's what happened. When he is in something and he's. And he's not. It's good. And he's nominated.
[49:53]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah.
[49:54]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
My little rebellion is. I watch it on my cell phone.
[49:59]
Jesse Eisenberg
That's hysterical. Yeah, that's.
[50:02]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
I put it on my apple.
[50:03]
Jesse Eisenberg
That's a real great way to stick it to him. Yeah. That must kill him.
[50:06]
Woody Harrelson
It kills me.
[50:07]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Yeah, yeah.
[50:08]
Woody Harrelson
Every time.
[50:09]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Question.
[50:10]
Jesse Eisenberg
Woody. Woody.
[50:12]
Woody Harrelson
I have a son with down syndrome.
[50:13]
Jesse Eisenberg
And I want to thank you for Champion is a great show. Yeah.
[50:17]
Woody Harrelson
Oh, thank you. Thank you. Is he up there with you?
[50:23]
Jesse Eisenberg
He's not with me.
[50:24]
Woody Harrelson
Well, tell him hello for me.
[50:26]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Absolutely.
[50:27]
Woody Harrelson
Did he see Champions?
[50:28]
Jesse Eisenberg
He has seen it.
[50:29]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Yes.
[50:29]
Jesse Eisenberg
And he's a big basketball player. He's 18. He loves basketball.
[50:32]
Woody Harrelson
Oh, great. Great.
[50:33]
Jesse Eisenberg
How did you end up choosing that role?
[50:36]
Woody Harrelson
Well, a friend, you know, gave me the script and I was like, wow, this is so cool. But, you know, then, you know, before I was gonna shoot, I talked to Bobby Fairley like the night before, and Bobby's like, okay, now some of these guys might have a little trouble with the. You know, what'll happen is if it's not going according to the script, we'll just throw out the script. And it just filled me with terror, you know, But I like to improvise. But I Then I suddenly. It was just delving into the unknown. And then I went. At first day, I fell in love with these guys. There's like 10 character this movie champions. If you haven't seen it, it's. It's a wonderful movie. But anyway, we got along so great, everybody. Just the coolest people.
[51:33]
Jesse Eisenberg
Thank you.
[51:34]
Woody Harrelson
So, yeah, tell them hi.
[51:36]
Jesse Eisenberg
Absolutely. Thank you.
[51:37]
Woody Harrelson
Got a question for all, for all three of you.
[51:41]
Jesse Eisenberg
Could you talk about your creative process, your writing process? Jesse mentioned you were inspired to write something. Didn't feel like it was right, but had another inspiration. But do you say, I'm gonna go take some time off and write something, or boom, it hits you and then how do you know to stop and make a changed for.
[51:59]
Woody Harrelson
Wow, this is really good.
[52:01]
Jesse Eisenberg
Let me continue.
[52:02]
Woody Harrelson
Before you answer this question, I just wanted to say that Jesse, you know, we'll go do a movie and we'll work for several months and then I'll have like, at the end of it, an impaired liver or something. But he's written a screenplay or a play, you know, he's actually always productive. It amazes me. I mean, I don't know. With Banner, are you able to write it like you used to, or, you know, like, you get up at 6 o' clock with Banner, and how does that modify things?
[52:34]
Jesse Eisenberg
And can you almost in a better way? Like, now I have to, like, really focus. So, like, you know, my wife and kid like taking vacations and I don't. So, like, they're going to Dominican Republic and over Christmas, so I'm, you know, I'm gonna take like three weeks and write my next movie. So, yeah, that's kind of how I work. And I've been thinking about it for like four years and I. It takes place in Guatemala and I just went there last month. So I've been like, working on it, but I need to spend like three weeks just at the library doing it. So that's kind of how I. How I've planned my life. So having a kid has kind of helped me focus me, you know what I mean? Because normally I would just like, if you have all the time in the world and as actors, like even very, very successful actors, like you have six months of the year off, a lot of times, you know, it's just my brain turns to mush, you know, So I stay active and I try to focus it, focus my time. Because I'm trying to write from a place of like, almost. Not stream of consciousness like that, but almost like momentum. Rather than like taking three weeks to think about the next thing that happens. I want it to all kind of flow out because it's usually better that way. Thank you for asking yeah. What about you? Can I ask? What do you like when, like, first of all, I've been. First of all, you got to do another live. I mean, it's so insane and so brilliant, but like, do you ever think like, yeah, let me just take like these two months, you know, and do like another, you know, Lost in London type.
[53:54]
Woody Harrelson
I do. I. I do want to do a live. Another live film, but I was thinking to do it in. In Denmark.
[54:02]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh, my God, of course, the one. Yes, I know all about it.
[54:05]
Woody Harrelson
Did I told you about it?
[54:06]
Jesse Eisenberg
Of course I know all about it.
[54:07]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Are you card owner in his houseboat?
[54:10]
Jesse Eisenberg
Like, no, I don't have a stake in that boat.
[54:12]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Conan does.
[54:13]
Jesse Eisenberg
I know that.
[54:14]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Yeah, and about 20 other people.
[54:16]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah, seriously, go on. I'm getting a hard time about this. The wifey won't let me get a houseboat anyway, so you guys should get a houseboat.
[54:28]
Jesse Eisenberg
Don't you hate it when still consider it? A wife won't let you get a houseboat.
[54:32]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
She won't.
[54:33]
Jesse Eisenberg
I know.
[54:33]
Woody Harrelson
I'm telling you, a houseboat in Copenhagen. I mean, it's.
[54:37]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
By the way, when you say wifey, you're not. You're hearing wifey. You're not getting Laura Louie, who is magnificent, astounding.
[54:45]
Woody Harrelson
The wifey poo right there.
[54:47]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
The reason why, you know, he can walk and talk is because of Laura. Anyway, back to wifey. Go ahead. Sure.
[54:59]
Woody Harrelson
Oh, was it me?
[55:01]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
You're going to do one?
[55:02]
Woody Harrelson
Well, I'm thinking of doing one.
[55:04]
Jesse Eisenberg
It was an amazing idea.
[55:06]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah, we'll see what happens. And then a couple nights ago, you know, I was up in the middle of the night and so was Laura. And then I. Anyway, I. Anyway, I told her about this other idea that came to me in a dream, which is also a pretty cool idea for a live film. I kind of like the idea of a live film. Although after I did it, I. I felt like, I'll never do this again. It was tragic for my health and I couldn't sleep. And it was.
[55:38]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
But do people who haven't seen it understand that there were cameras waiting for you in tax cabs when you'd get.
[55:46]
Woody Harrelson
I mean, right, one camera did the whole thing.
[55:49]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Who got into the cab with you and. Oh, my God, I didn't realize that. Sorry.
[55:53]
Jesse Eisenberg
Woody wrote, directed, and starred in a movie that was live streamed to theaters. It's never been done before. It's. I can't even believe the technology exists, let alone the artistry. Like. And so I was in Indiana watching a movie. He was Making in London in the middle of the night. It was like, I don't know, a seven o' clock show for me or something. It's the most unbelievable thing and it's an amazing movie. Like if it was just a regular movie, it would be amazing.
[56:16]
Woody Harrelson
Thanks, man. Yeah, you've always been the most supportive about that.
[56:19]
Jesse Eisenberg
Oh, you got to. Yeah. You got to do another.
[56:24]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Yeah.
[56:24]
Woody Harrelson
Right here in front of first off.
[56:27]
Jesse Eisenberg
Justice for Zombieland 2. Thank you. Thank you. Really.
[56:35]
Woody Harrelson
Thank you.
[56:36]
Jesse Eisenberg
Call your congress person, you know. Thank you. Yeah. But for Jesse, I would love to know how you kind of get over your anxiety, you know, in general, but also, you know, when you are kind of put on a stage and maybe you're anxious leading up to it. Do you have any tips and tricks for people like myself? Are you an actor? Is that what you're asking about? Or just anxiety person trying to present more? Try just present in public. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting, because I was going to give two different thoughts. If you're an actor, I would say like what I do is like if I have like an anxiety thing or something, I put it on the character. You're like the character is having this feeling or something. Ted and I were talking about that earlier in the last play you did a character's feeling this. So that can be helpful. But in terms of just a general thing and then trying to present in public, I don't know, you just seemed like the most normal person. You asked a nice question, you were funny, you had a joke about something we said. It's much better you than a person who's polished and you feel like is trying to sell you snake oil and is suspicious and you know, you know what I mean? Like so what you have, I don't know you. Well, I'm looking at you through a seat here, but like what you have is so much more important and special than, I don't know, putting on something that wouldn't feel natural to you. You're a funny person. I know you 20 seconds and you made a funny joke. So I guess maybe think more highly of yourself.
[58:10]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Wow. Wow. Well done.
[58:12]
Woody Harrelson
Well done.
[58:14]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
And he's giving a kidney away, but.
[58:18]
Jesse Eisenberg
Not to her, you know. Well, maybe, maybe.
[58:21]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Sorry, scratch that.
[58:26]
Jesse Eisenberg
Exactly. Anymore.
[58:28]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Yeah, right there. Yes. Yeah.
[58:32]
Woody Harrelson
This is a light hearted one.
[58:33]
Jesse Eisenberg
The card and chip scene from the.
[58:35]
Woody Harrelson
Now you see Me two I think.
[58:37]
Jesse Eisenberg
Is one of the best from any of the movies. But I'm curious, like your favorite trick or scene is from any of the now youw See movies.
[58:44]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Favorite trick.
[58:45]
Jesse Eisenberg
So you know, she's talking about the passing the card, the computer chip in the second movie. That was amazing, wasn't it?
[58:51]
Woody Harrelson
That was really cool.
[58:53]
Jesse Eisenberg
Including that thing you did at the end, which I don't even know what's the last thing you do in it. It's like you. You throw it and ricochets off the floor.
[59:01]
Woody Harrelson
Is that what happens?
[59:02]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yes. I think at the same. Bobby knows. At the.
[59:06]
Woody Harrelson
Bobby and our producer, who also produced this.
[59:13]
Jesse Eisenberg
Throw the card. It bounces off the floor at the same time as somebody's putting metal through. Kaplan swoops it into her fur coat. Yes. Amazing.
[59:22]
Woody Harrelson
You were very good at it. Woody, by the way.
[59:24]
Jesse Eisenberg
What's up?
[59:25]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Great work. Great work.
[59:26]
Jesse Eisenberg
That scene was amazing. What you're about to see is even more nerve wracking for us, which was there is a scene in this movie where all the characters are doing a trick to each other. And it's kind of like a one upsmanship kind of scene. And we did it in one shot, which means no cutting, which means if you're like the finisher, it means you.
[59:42]
Woody Harrelson
Can'T mess it up.
[59:43]
Jesse Eisenberg
Can't mess it up. You had something at the end of the first half.
[59:48]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah, Mine was just a little five card, little mental.
[59:52]
Jesse Eisenberg
I remember thinking you had the toughest job because you actually had to do like a full trick where the rest of us were kind of doing, like, parts of things. And you had like a real. You had like an actual show on you.
[60:02]
Woody Harrelson
No, I thought yours was much harder.
[60:05]
Jesse Eisenberg
My thing, I had a little thing to Dom in the beginning. The best part of the trick, though, is there's a quick change. Isla Fisher, she does a quick change. If you don't know what a quick change is in magic, it's. To me, it's like the most impressive thing that magicians do, which is, you know, you're wearing something and instantaneously it changes to something else. There's like this French quick change artist who could do like 25 full outfits. I'm talking, like, going from a mini skirt to, like a full fur coat. She's amazing. And so there's a quick change in that scene. That's my favorite part of it.
[60:33]
Woody Harrelson
But then it's a real quick, quick change. It does happen.
[60:36]
Jesse Eisenberg
Everything we did was real. And so that was an awesome scene. Nerve wracking for us, just because, like, you don't want to be the one to screw it up. Because then we got to start all the way from the beginning. But it was great.
[60:44]
Woody Harrelson
But it was fun when someone would screw it up. And we just kind of playfully, you know, nudge them.
[60:50]
Jesse Eisenberg
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Not for the person who screwed it up, but yeah, I do remember for us it was fun. Yeah.
[60:56]
Woody Harrelson
What was the one? Justice was doing the three thing and then he had a little trouble.
[61:01]
Jesse Eisenberg
Justice was not Justice's fault. It was wire in the table.
[61:05]
Woody Harrelson
I agree with you.
[61:06]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yeah. But that was the one that would normally catch.
[61:08]
Woody Harrelson
Yeah. No, I'm not judging.
[61:09]
Jesse Eisenberg
Not at all. Not at all. Not at all.
[61:11]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Well, you're about to see it and I. I've been told that we should let you watch the movie, which is okay. Kind of like a great reason.
[61:18]
Woody Harrelson
Thank you all.
[61:19]
Jesse Eisenberg
Thank you so much.
[61:19]
Woody Harrelson
Thank you.
[61:20]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Thank you, Jesse.
[61:21]
Woody Harrelson
Thank you, Jesse.
[61:22]
Jesse Eisenberg
Thanks.
[61:38]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Thank you, Jesse Eisenberg, the Alamo Drafthouse and our fans for being such a great audience. Now you see me, now you don't is in theaters November 14th. Can't tell you how much fun I had sitting down with my buddy. That's it for this week. Special thanks to Team Coco. If you enjoyed this episode, please send it to someone you love. Subscribe on your favorite podcast app and maybe give us a great rating and a review on Apple Podcasts if you're in the mood. If you like watching your podcasts, all our full length episodes are on YouTube. Visit YouTube.comteamcoco See you next time. Where everybody knows your name. You've been listening to Where Everybody Knows.
[62:28]
Jesse Eisenberg
Yous Name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson Sometimes. The show is produced by me, Nick Liao. Our executive producers are Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross and myself. Sarah Fedorovich is our supervising producer.
[62:40]
Host (possibly Ted Danson)
Engineering and mixing by Joanna Samuel with support from Eduardo Perez.
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