Richard Kind

Summary

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Where Everybody Knows Your Name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson (Sometimes)

Guest: Richard Kind

Release Date: February 25, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this heartwarming and laugh-filled episode, Ted Danson sits down for a candid conversation with his longtime friend and acclaimed character actor Richard Kind. Known for his roles in Mad About You, Spin City, A Serious Man, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and recently, as John Mulaney’s sidekick on Netflix’s Everybody’s Live, Kind opens up about his career, insecurities, acting philosophy, and the value of real human connection. The episode explores themes of growth, humility, creativity, the evolution of comedy, and reflections on politics and society—all through the lens of two seasoned Hollywood veterans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

On Mutual Admiration and Nerves

• Richard kicks off with his trademark self-deprecation, immediately admitting to being early for the recording out of respect for Ted, quipping:

  “I was here early. I'm never early. That's how much respect I have for you. I didn’t shave, but I have a lot of respect.” (01:04)

• The two reflect on the unique intimidation and joy of meeting industry legends:

  "I used to feel this way when I met Stephen Sondheim... Then I found out he's a human being." – Richard Kind (03:36)

Showbiz Anecdotes: From Clooney’s Rabbit to Charles Grodin and Letterman

• Richard shares a hilarious story about getting a skin pigmentation issue from being scratched by George Clooney’s rabbit (02:35).

• Delightful digression on Charles Grodin’s humanitarian work and overblown self-confidence, including ill-fated play readings with Andy Rooney and Regis Philbin’s comic bluntness:

  “Regis would just go, 'Rich, that was terrible! It was awful.'” (06:14)

• Ted and Richard agree on the enigmatic nature of performers like Grodin and Woody Harrelson:

  "Somebody called [Woody] a Redneck hippie. And that's kind of him." – Ted Danson (07:39)

The Life and Identity of a Character Actor

• Ted questions why Richard is always surrounded at industry events, to which Richard attributes his long history of “spicing up” projects with other stars (08:38).
• Both men discuss their approaches to friendship, relaxation, and reluctance for “guy time,” drawing a contrast in personalities (09:23).

Family, Upbringing, and the Path to Acting

• Richard gets candid about parental expectations—his mother’s boundless pride and father’s skepticism—leading to a late-blooming but hard-earned sense of accomplishment:

  “I was pre-law and he wanted me to go to law school and business school to take over his place... He’d ask others, 'Does he have it?'" (11:51)

• Offers rare self-reflection on craft:

  “I BS’d as an actor. I was big. But I became a much better actor after 20 years in the business.” – Richard Kind (12:08)

Evolving as an Actor: From Second City to Screen

• Ted admits he never truly understood the culture or process of Second City, and Richard gives an impassioned explanation:

  “Second City, formed in 1959 by real intellectuals at University of Chicago... You go on stage every night not knowing what you’re going to say for an hour.” – Richard Kind (16:48)

• On improvisation:

  “In order to be a good actor, you don’t need to improvise. But in order to be a good improviser, you must be a good actor.” (18:48)

• Both discuss the anxiety and autoimmune repercussions that have accompanied their careers (psoriasis/vitiligo) as expressions of long-term nerves (21:14–22:06).

Craft and Growth: The Truth in Acting

• Discussion turns to the necessity of telling the truth as an actor, especially praising Mary Steenburgen and Laurie Metcalf:

  “Mary Steenburgen cannot lie. When she acts, she tells the truth.” – Richard Kind (13:31)

• The honesty in performance, the challenge of surviving “three jokes per page” sitcoms, and the pressure cooker nature of multi-camera shows (27:25–29:11).

Navigating Comedy, Collaboration, and the Writer’s Room

• Richard and Ted swap sitcom war stories and talk about the limitations and demands for sitcom “satellites” versus “maypoles”—i.e., the central vs. supporting characters.

• Both admit they have grown weary of sitcom joke formulas:

  “Nowadays, I just say, ‘I am so sorry. I just can't do jokes anymore. I’m really bad at it. It makes me sweat.’" – Ted Danson (29:23)

• Richard describes his current role on Everybody’s Live with John Mulaney:

  “What I do best on the show... I keep my mouth shut... I can ask a question that can lead us somewhere else. I can help, John.” (33:25)

  • Shares a story about getting cut off by Conan O’Brien when trying to ask a behind-the-scenes question, showing the show’s playful, unscripted nature (34:49–35:08).

Reflection on Politics, Society, and Hope

• Lively discussion about the dumbing down of politics, the importance of arts funding, and nostalgia for a more unified Congress:

  “The congressmen are not smart… but their staff are.” – Richard Kind (36:36 & 38:54)

• Richard expresses deep concern about Project 2025 and erosion of democracy:

  "It is a battle plan and they're succeeding faster than we could ever, ever have imagined... Democracy is in peril. Today, democracy is in peril." (40:47)

• Ted and Richard explore whether today is the worst era for America or whether history simply repeats its pains. They land on a hopeful, albeit bruised, conclusion:

  "Alright, this sucks, but what am I going to do? Oh, good, I have to work harder… And then you die, Ted." – Ted Danson (45:49–46:07)

On Friendship, Conversation, and The Joy of Being Known

• Both reflect on the value of real conversation, even with those of differing views.

  “It's just another conversation that I want to continue tomorrow. That's what I do. I like this.” – Richard Kind (47:31)

Favorite Failures and Wrong Predictions

• Richard shares self-effacing stories about being confidently wrong—about Farrah Fawcett, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Big Bertha golf clubs:

  “I told Arnold, you stupid muscle-bound foreigner, you’ll never have a poster bigger than Farrah Fawcett’s. I was wrong.” (51:02–51:21)
  "Only I'm right.” – Richard Kind (sarcastically, 53:31)

Closing Complimentary Exchange

• The episode closes with mutual affection and gratitude:

  “I have such respect for your career. Not your acting, your career... You must outlast the war. You must be alive at the end. In spade. You are.” – Richard Kind (53:44–54:16) “I don't know why I don't just call Richard Kind and have a cup of coffee with him... This was a treat for me to hang out with him like that.” – Ted Danson (54:42)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I was here early. I'm never early. That's how much respect I have for you.” – Richard Kind (01:04)
• “When I was really good friends with George, he had a rabbit... It just disappeared [the pigment]. Isn't that weird?” – Richard Kind (02:35)
• “Regis would just go, ‘Rich, that was terrible. It was awful.’” – Richard Kind (06:14)
• “Mary Steenburgen cannot lie. When she acts, she tells the truth.” – Richard Kind (13:31)
• “In order to be a good improviser, you must be a good actor.” – Richard Kind (18:48)
• “Nowadays, I just say, ‘I am so sorry. I just can't do jokes anymore… It makes me sweat.’” – Ted Danson (29:23)
• “I act. That's what I do. If not, let me go sell jewelry, which my dad [did]… But this is all I do.” – Richard Kind (31:57)
• “It's just another conversation that I want to continue tomorrow. That's what I do. I like this.” – Richard Kind (47:31)
• “You must outlast the war. You must be alive at the end. In spade. You are.” – Richard Kind (54:14)

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Suggested Listening Timestamps

• 01:04: Richard Kind’s humorous and humble arrival / respect for Ted
• 06:14: Charles Grodin/Regis Philbin anecdotes
• 16:48: Second City explained as an actor’s “Harvard”
• 21:14–22:06: Nerves and acting’s toll on health
• 27:25–29:39: The “maypole” vs. “satellite” actor; sitcom demands
• 33:25–35:08: Inside stories from Everybody’s Live
• 40:47: Richard’s concerns about Project 2025 and democracy
• 45:49–46:07: Ted’s philosophy: "And then you die, Ted."
• 53:31–54:16: Closing affirmations and reflections on career longevity

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Tone & Style

The conversation is candid, deeply human, and richly comedic, with both actors vacillating between heartfelt vulnerability, inside-Hollywood anecdotes, and generous belly-laughs. Richard Kind’s neurotic, rapid-fire wit perfectly complements Ted Danson’s steady, self-effacing wisdom.

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Final Thoughts

This episode goes far beyond show business chatter, offering a masterclass in humility, perseverance, and the joy that comes from truly being known—by peers, by friends, and by oneself. Both Kind and Danson reveal not only what it means to survive and thrive in Hollywood but what it means to stay curious, vulnerable, and present in a rapidly changing world.

“I don't know why I don't just call Richard Kind and have a cup of coffee with them. That's who I am—so this was a treat.” – Ted Danson (54:42)

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Transcript

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[Richard Kind]

I was here early. I'm never early. That's how much respect I have for you. I didn't shave, but I have a lot of respect.

[Ted Danson]

Welcome back to where everybody knows your name. Finally, I get to talk with Richard Kine today. You've probably heard that name several times on this podcast. For a long time, I've been a huge fan of Richard and his vast body of work, including Mad about yout, Spin City, Bug's Life, Serious Man, Curb, Inside Out, Much more. Most recently, Richard played sidekick to the amazing John Mulaney on their Netflix talk show Everybody's Live, and I can't wait to talk to him about that. So let's meet him. Here's Richard Kine. What malady feel at age 25, when I was stepping out in New York and got hired for two soap operas at the same time, which was conflicting and scared me and it was about to step out in the world and make my way. Psoriasis.

[Richard Kind]

And that's nerves too.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah, it's a lot of things. It's an autoimmune disease kind of dealing.

[Richard Kind]

Mine is two autoimmune thing. Yeah, I was. I can.

[Ted Danson]

Can we pump in closer on our skin because I think people love seeing flakes.

[Richard Kind]

Oh, but here's a weird one and forgive me and I probably I say I never am going to say the name, but when I was really good friends with George, when we were really, you know, friends, he had a rabbit and his rabbit once scratched me right there and we saw the pigment go like that. It just disappeared. It became pale. Isn't that weird?

[Ted Danson]

Fucking George Clooney.

[Richard Kind]

Fucking Rabbit of George Clooney. No, it's terrible. Okay, I'll blame the guy. It's the truth. I'm taking my sneakers off. So I have. That's why I'm so pale. And that I chose. This business is ridiculous. In thinking about coming here today. You remember when David Letterman used to have guests on and you just go to. To the guest.

[Ted Danson]

Shut up.

[Richard Kind]

Let's just let David talk. Yeah, that's how I feel this morning. And I'm going to get that out of the way and I'll stop slobbering. But there are. There just. I don't want to say there are few people left in the world who I'm really admire. We had only met once before when I came up to you.

[Ted Danson]

Such a big. I know who you are. You're an idiot.

[Richard Kind]

I know you do. I heard you speak about me with Mulaney and who there we'll go into. Oh, my God, there's. But I used to feel this way when I met Stephen Sondheim. Cause I worked. I did an original musical for Stephen Sondheim and I just said I was afraid to talk to him because the slobber. What would I say? What could I say that he might be interested in? Then I found out he's a human being. I know you're a human being, everything like that. I know Mary because I knew her for years. Yeah.

[Ted Danson]

Did you. You did have scenes, right? I'm trying to remember.

[Richard Kind]

I don't.

[Ted Danson]

Or did you just drop off your scene?

[Richard Kind]

No, we did have a scene, but it got cut. It got cut. But yeah.

[Ted Danson]

She loves you.

[Richard Kind]

Does she? It's just great. Did she love Groton?

[Ted Danson]

Yes, hugely. Worked with him two or three times. He.

[Richard Kind]

Do you know the story of me with Groton?

[Ted Danson]

No, tell me.

[Richard Kind]

It's hilarious. He calls me up and he goes, rich. You know, we did a movie that's like a cult movie now. Yes, Mr. Grodin. Chuck. It's Chuck. Listen, I hear you're a terrific actor and I wanna. I wrote a. And I want to do it with you. It was a two hander. The worst thing you've ever read in your life. It was. He was awful. He wrote one decent play and the rest. And he just kept writing and writing. So he goes, well, I want to come over to your house and we'll read it. Okay. He came over eight or nine times and we would sit at the Kitchen table for three hours like this. And we would just talk. And he. And do you know about his charity work?

[Ted Danson]

No, I don't.

[Richard Kind]

Now, this is really interesting. He used to fight for people on death row who were there incorrectly. And he would go and he would visit the governor and he would talk to them and get them off of death row. Sometimes even out of prison, he would fight for them.

[Ted Danson]

Good for him.

[Richard Kind]

Nobody knew, but he'd be the first one to talk about it.

[Ted Danson]

Is it like the Innocence Project?

[Richard Kind]

Yes, sort of. But a one man thing. He was really, really a humanitarian. He really. He. He was like you. I mean, and he had the talk show. If you ever saw his talk show.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Richard Kind]

He was a liberal, liberal, liberal guy and fought. And he would go, yeah, she's left a family and they're fighting for it. And he would go and he would walk the walk. But he would be the first one to talk about him. That was the weird thing is he'd brag on himself, but he did it. He walked the walk like you guys, you know, trying to do what you did for ages, decades, for trying to save the planet before it was as popular as it got, you know? You know what I'm saying? Anyway, I loved Groton. I loved him. And. But so we do the play. We did it, a thing. His best friend, Regis Philbin. Ah, I love Ridge. He would just go, rich. That was terrible. It was awful. That was terrible. And then Andy Rooney was one of his best friends. We're reading the play and Andy Rooney at his agent, I mean, walked like one of those sl. Rock em Sock em robots across the room. Walking out and just looking at us, shaking his head, going, no, no. At 15 minutes into the play, just walked out. It was hilarious.

[Ted Danson]

Charles Grodin, one of the unfortunate things. Well, for me at least. I never knew if he was serious, being ironic, satirical, whatever. He had that delivery. I know that you were never quite sure.

[Richard Kind]

I think your cohort, Woody sort of has that. He. He'll be. It's just, It's. I want you because it's Southern. You go, oh, is he dummy? He is.

[Ted Danson]

Oh, no, he's remarkable.

[Richard Kind]

Remarkably smart. But everything seems like a plea. It's like, ah, you know, everything. Every time he talks, I. It sounds like he's a. It's a plea. It's like. Understand what I'm saying? Did you get that at all?

[Ted Danson]

Yeah, he's. He is one.

[Richard Kind]

It's gentle.

[Ted Danson]

First off, I love him.

[Richard Kind]

So do I.

[Ted Danson]

But he's like. Somebody called him a Redneck hippie. And that's kind of.

[Richard Kind]

Right.

[Ted Danson]

You know, it's kind of him.

[Richard Kind]

But he's also, I don't want to say intellectual, but he's smart. He writes, so he is intellectual.

[Ted Danson]

Some of his plays are amazing, his poetry's amazing.

[Richard Kind]

Right.

[Ted Danson]

He can write songs. He did that and I didn't see it. Don't tell him. I know he's part of this podcast, but he never listens.

[Richard Kind]

He's fascinating. Today

[Ted Danson]

he did that live television broadcast film in London, right on the streets of a continuous live thing. I mean, he's really bright.

[Richard Kind]

He's. He's really bright. Yeah, but you don't know it.

[Ted Danson]

No.

[Richard Kind]

Until you think about it. Yeah, he's a great guy. Great guy. I got, I got his drawbacks, but I don't want to know. But I. Yes, I do. All right, what do you want to know? Why am I here?

[Ted Danson]

Okay, first off, because when I try to talk to you at events like the Emmys or something, you're so surrounded by other actors who want a piece of you. Seriously. Because you worked with so many people and they're so happy to see you, it's very hard to do, to make contact.

[Richard Kind]

I'll agree with that. But yes, I have worked with so many.

[Ted Danson]

And as a character actor, self described spice or whatever, you've worked with so many big stars. I don't think I'm on your radar, to be honest. Because if you're gonna go spice up something, you're gonna pick a big star. That's kind of what you do. That's what it looks like to me. So to get a conversation going with you. Cause I do find you fascinating. This is the way to do it.

[Richard Kind]

We did not have to do this. Just call me for a cup of coffee.

[Ted Danson]

But see, that's not me. Really. I don't know. I don't hang out with guys. Thank you. Oh, I do.

[Richard Kind]

It's my favorite thing. Are you having a good time right now? Yes, I live for this, but not with a microphone.

[Ted Danson]

Huge sums of money. No, they're not. I take that back.

[Richard Kind]

Yeah, it's a podcast.

[Ted Danson]

I am, I don't know what it is, but I've never been that. Let's go have a beer together. I, I, I find guys relaxing. So relaxing to be around, but beside the point. So this is fun. But you're not my wife, Mary, so you're beside the point.

[Richard Kind]

Okay. And I had a wife who was a. She is a great person. And I'm talking to the microphone. Cause she's an ex wife, but she's great. She's therapist now. She helps people for very little money. Thank you, Dana. But she did not like it either. She did not like Hollywood when she first started out. I think she did. I think she saw all the tinsel and this is great. And then just had enough. It got to the point where she could not turn Entertainment Tonight on tv. Just get it away. It was horrible. I don't wanna say I live for it. Cause I've grown up, but I used to. But I love actors. I mean, when they say, oh, me too. There's no people like so people. There are no people like so people. We're not always the smartest, but we're fun and we have energy and we're playing. We're. We're playing all the time. So we got kid energy.

[Ted Danson]

And I know the joke, the whatever phrase, the cliche is, we're not curing cancer. I kind of disagree. I think what we put out in the world, laughter and all of that stuff is immeasurably healthy and wonderful.

[Richard Kind]

All right, first of all, let me talk about my mom. I could be on stage and take a shit and my mother would go, is that the sweetest smelling piece of shit you ever smelled? Is that. That's my mom. I could do no wrong. So maybe I had to please her all the time like that or, you know, and would get on my nerves. Stop it, stop it. Because too much love. But come on, sweetheart. Come on, give me more, give me more.

[Ted Danson]

You had a daddy like mine that said. I read in the research on you that you once said that, that your dad was always. Well, you know, is he any good? He's ask everybody is any good. Maybe you should get a degree in something and teach or something.

[Richard Kind]

Oh, no. I was pre law and he wanted me to go to law school and business school to take over his place. Okay. And he would ask. He wouldn't trust himself. He had to ask others, is he. Does he. These were the words. Does he have it?

[Ted Danson]

Yeah.

[Richard Kind]

What a father thing to say. Does he got it? Does he have it like that. Not is he any good or anything. Is that. And I'm just going. And the thing is, but at the time, okay, here's something about me is, again, I BS'd as an actor. I BS'd. I was big. I was. But I became a much better actor after 20 years in the business. I deserve the career I have now because I really pulled the wool over people's eyes for about 20, 20, 30 years. Like, it's been.

[Ted Danson]

So how would you describe different now?

[Richard Kind]

In a screen, you're giving a small amount of space to move, and you've got to tell the truth, right? I didn't have to tell the truth. I was so enjoyable. I was just hitting the back of the theater. I was huge. I didn't know what. I didn't mean a word of it. It's the truth. I just was big and fun and get. And I was entertaining and. I don't know, I pulled the wall. I. Now when I say a line, I sort of mean it. I'm better. I'm just better. I'm a decent actor.

[Ted Danson]

I don't know who says. Maybe it was Sandy Meisner or something, that it takes 20, 25 years to become an actor. Did he start to be a good actor? Yes. Wow. You start, and it takes 20, 25 years.

[Richard Kind]

Okay, I'm gonna tell you something. And I did. I said, what's the woman out there?

[Ted Danson]

Paula.

[Richard Kind]

Paula. One thing about Mary, and I believe this in female actors and not necessarily male actors. Mary Steenburgen cannot lie. When she acts, she tells the truth. There are other actors. Like, I think Michelle Pfeiffer is like that. I think, oh, oh. Laurie Metcalf is like that. They cannot lie. I don't know how. I don't think that of many actors. I'm entertained by them. I believe them. You know, Daniel Day. Well, Daniel Day Lewis is a whole different story because, you know, I'm Lincoln. I'm Lincoln. I'm Mr. President. You know, my shoes are uncomfortable. I don't buy it.

[Ted Danson]

Tom Hardy.

[Richard Kind]

What?

[Ted Danson]

Tom Hardy's.

[Richard Kind]

Is he like that?

[Ted Danson]

Yeah, I think so.

[Richard Kind]

He's great. They're great. No, he's great.

[Ted Danson]

Oh, I'm saying Tom Hardy.

[Richard Kind]

I believe you believe every word.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah.

[Richard Kind]

But it's okay.

[Ted Danson]

That's interesting, though, that you don't. Because you're a guy and you're. I don't know, overlaying that on. It could be.

[Richard Kind]

Could be maybe overthinking it. I don't know why. It's just how I am. But Mary Steenburgen is one of them. When she did Melvin and Howard. Oh, I just. That was. You know, when you're surprised. When you see a movie. When a movie is that good and people are that good, and Paul Lamat. I did believe that. It just. That surprises me. And I remember that from Mary, so that when I worked with her, I was. I didn't know.

[Ted Danson]

I think that it's also writing. You know, I do Think when the writing is really, really good.

[Richard Kind]

Oh, that saved me. Oh, sure.

[Ted Danson]

If it's not good, part of you knows it and part of you goes, I better juice this up a little bit.

[Richard Kind]

I agree. You know, and you know what the worst thing is? Is you go in for an audition. I don't know when the last time you had to audition or. But when you go in for an audition, you really don't want it. Cause it's not good. And you sabotage yourself because you're really not serving the words well. And you end up giving a lousy audition. I think that's right. But then sometimes you're blessed. I'm blessed, you know, working for the Coen Brothers or. Or doing what, you know, what I've been blessed to do. And you get you boy in the Good Place, by God.

[Ted Danson]

Let me go back with you.

[Richard Kind]

Go ahead.

[Ted Danson]

Thank you. I agree. I thought the Good Place was amazing.

[Richard Kind]

Amazing.

[Ted Danson]

Okay. So we both kind of faked our way through school. We both discovered I have this whole block of knowledge that I lied about. When somebody says, you know, oh, you know the o' Neill play. Da, da, da, da. And I go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As if I'd been in it or as if I'd read it a hundred times, but I hadn't. But I knew it was something I should know. So I said, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Richard Kind]

Okay.

[Ted Danson]

And so I have this whole dark hole in my knowledge that I started to believe I knew, but it's actually. I'm totally ignorant. Chicago. Second City is one of those blind spots I have because friends. George went.

[Richard Kind]

Sure.

[Ted Danson]

Lots of people. You went there. And I. And I kind of understand it, but I really don't. So. Can you walk? Do you mind talking about.

[Richard Kind]

I'll explain. Second City because wasn't that your. It was my Harvard of acting.

[Ted Danson]

Fantastic.

[Richard Kind]

And you could say Harvard of comedy acting. But it wasn't okay. Second city, formed in 1959 by real intellectuals at University of Chicago. And you just said the word Eisenhower and you were being inflammatory and incendiary. Oh, my gosh. Like that. That's how political these guys were when they. They were.

[Ted Danson]

But.

[Richard Kind]

But they were really smart, the smartest of smarts. And wore their intelligence on their sleeves and sort of bragged about it through Second City after a while. And there was a lot of Jewish intelligentsia after a while, the Midwestern Goyisha, you know, Bill Murray and Belushi and other people got in there. And then came Animal House and all of that. Those. And then came Saturday Night Live. Okay, so you go on stage every night not knowing what you're going to say for an hour.

[Ted Danson]

How did you get into it first? I mean, this is hard to get into, isn't it?

[Richard Kind]

How I got in, yeah, is the lucky. We all know, and it's timing and right place and stuff like that. So I'll tell you. Went to Northwestern with Julia Louis Dreyfuss, Brad hall, her husband, and they formed a company. Gary Kroger and Paul Barras. They formed a company called the Practical Theater Company. They got hired for Saturday Night Live. I lived in New York, I saw them and they said, oh, you should go out and do a play at our theater. Yeah, I'll go on out. We took three months and we wrote a small show called Megafun. It was great. We were supposed to go from March until June. We went until the following November. It was a huge hit in Chicago in a small space right next to Second City. Okay. In order to get in Second City, you took classes. Then you went on the road and the touring company, then maybe they had that small space. So at 9 o', clock, some people who were in the classes, they got to do a show. Practical Theater came in. They were the hit. They got sent to snl. I went and did the show. Okay, Getting back to it, the owner of Second City came opening night, comes to me at the party and says, I want to meet you in my office tomorrow morning. Okay? Next morning, I go in there. He says, we want to make you part of Second City. I go, I don't improvise. And he just said, you'll learn. A year and a half of being on stage every night. Now, we did sketches because, okay, here's what I say as an actor. In order to be a good actor, you don't need to improvise. But in order to be a good improviser, you must be a good actor. Yes, okay, I was. I say a good actor. I was entertaining so I could make everything entertaining and real. He hires me. A year and a half into improvising, every night, not going out there. I'm terrible. I'm terrible. And I just improvised in front of an audience. Well, you gotta become good. You're doing enough. And I was there four and a half years, and you go out every night and the audience tells you, you can do this or we'll buy this. And I got better and better. Frank Galati, when I was at Northwestern, I said, I should go.

[Ted Danson]

This is pre.

[Richard Kind]

Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Ten years easily, he said. I said, I Don't know whether to go into acting. He said, well, why don't you be a producer? Because your dad wants you to go into business and you want to be an actor. So be a produce. I go, no, either want to be a star or I want to be rich and go into my dad's business. So you say, well, you're not going to do anything until you're about 34. Nobody's going to look at you until you're 34 because Hollywood doesn't want you. Most people, when they're 27, 28, 29, and they're just waiting tables, they say, this is bullshit. What am I doing? I want a house, I want kids, I want whatever I want. So they'll become a director, a writer, an agent or a producer. Okay? They leave the business around 27, 28. When, you know, I've cast off the wings and let me become a human being. I spent those years on stage getting paid. I was a paid actor. All of a sudden I'm out. I can't be a director, I can't be a producer. All I know is this. But I became better. Then I came out here and I got work, but like I said, I got vitiligo. I was terrified.

[Ted Danson]

Oh, really? I kind of. I was horrified when I got psoriasis. So I guess I'm making light of it.

[Richard Kind]

You still have it.

[Ted Danson]

Oh, yeah. It became so.

[Richard Kind]

You see worse now. Here's. This is what's amazing. Amazing. There's nobody more successful than you and your career. Nobody. Emmys. You could hold up your house with the Emmys. You are great in every genre that you did that. CSI or Law and Order, whatever you did, how you did that, I don't know.

[Ted Danson]

Me either.

[Richard Kind]

I don't know. But is there anything further from Cheers than what? That you got it all and you're still nervous. You still scratch because of the psoriasis. Because I'm so fucking nervous about the world and who I am and what

[Ted Danson]

I do have to be. You're supposed to be. Because otherwise you're riding on confidence that came from the last thing you did. And I think that you. I think you do this all the time.

[Richard Kind]

How long have you lived in this town?

[Ted Danson]

But I think you need to start at zero. Always as a creative soul and most, not always, but most of the time you do that and I do that and that's how you get to be okay.

[Richard Kind]

That's self congratulatory, but I think it is true.

[Ted Danson]

I don't say I always do it. But that's what you should be doing.

[Richard Kind]

You should be doing yes, but I talk about I know what I can do. I do. In acting class I tried playing Brick because I wanted to play Brick and Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. Why not? I'll never get to do it. Let me do it in acting class. But I might as well be in Porgy and Bess. I mean, it's ridiculous. You know what you can do?

[Ted Danson]

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But being in front of an audience. Oh, my God. Isn't it. Isn't it wonderful?

[Ted Danson]

I mean, I did get my audience jollies a little bit from three camera. I mean, Cheers and Becker.

[Richard Kind]

I hate three camera. Now I do, too. Now I'm terrified. Terrified.

[Ted Danson]

What are you talking about? Cause that's theater. Ish.

[Richard Kind]

I know.

[Ted Danson]

Why don't you tear?

[Richard Kind]

But you don't. You don't make the rehearse.

[Ted Danson]

No, you're right.

[Richard Kind]

You don't. And I hear the stories about Cheers where you'd come in on Wednesdays and do it that I. When we used to rehearse Spin City, it took an hour to rehearse, but we only rehearsed for five minutes. We would screw around. That's what we would do. It was fun. Oh, sitcoms are great. Yeah, they're great. But it's. But that you really have to go and do a play, in my opinion, because I really want to serve. I really want to be in the moment of giving the laugh. But also, you and I are different in our careers because you're the maypole. Things happened around you.

[Ted Danson]

The tall guy. Yes.

[Richard Kind]

Okay. I am the satellite character. And I could never be the maypole of a sitcom. I can be the maypole of a drama, of an hour show like a

[Ted Danson]

Colombo o' Connor have said the same thing that you just said until that wasn't true. I disagree with you about you because you got dark in you. You've got anger in you. You've got all those things that.

[Richard Kind]

But not in half hour. Not in half hour.

[Ted Danson]

Carol o' Connor was half hour.

[Richard Kind]

It was four characters. And they didn't just. He was the lead, but they didn't revolve around him.

[Ted Danson]

But that's the best.

[Richard Kind]

No, I'm talking.

[Ted Danson]

No, Cheers was about not about me. It was about a little bit me and Diane, but it was. Everybody carried the show. Hey, you know what? I'm magnificent. I'm sorry, I don't know why I'm trying to talk you out.

[Richard Kind]

There is a center. You were the bartender.

[Ted Danson]

Yes.

[Richard Kind]

You're in the center of the room.

[Ted Danson]

Yes.

[Richard Kind]

Everything revolved around you because you were the center of the bar. That's where you were. Bob Newhart is more than Carroll. O' Connor was shockingly good. But, you know, you get. And Judd Hirsch in Cheer in the Taxi was that guy, too. It's shocking that he could be that guy, but he was the center. But in, you know, you get Mary Tyler Moore or even Tim Allen or all of those stuff. They're likable, white, pleasing people that satellite characters are around and that's who I am. And. And it's our job to get a laugh every three lines so that nobody uses the remote control. That's what I believe.

[Ted Danson]

That's the hard part about three camera. The three jokes per page.

[Richard Kind]

You must get the joke. And I would literally ask on Spence City, I go, do I have to get a laugh on this? Or can I say it like a human being?

[Ted Danson]

Yeah. I nowadays say, I am so sorry. I just can't do jokes anymore. I'm really bad at it. It makes me sweat. Can we find a way to.

[Richard Kind]

I've never said it like that, but you're right. I can't do it.

[Ted Danson]

A rhythm joke, a reversal joke.

[Richard Kind]

Cause I'm a better actor. I'm a better actor. Now I understand exactly what you're saying. And I hate the four camera still. I do it. Did you see me do Mid Century Modern?

[Ted Danson]

No, I haven't. Huge.

[Richard Kind]

The stage is my salad bar. I just chewed that scenery. I'm not big. Enormous. And I sometimes use volume as humor. And there's nobody bigger. I was huge. And I do it. I do it. And I got directed by Jimmy. That's the first time I was directed by Jim Burroughs, who I knew.

[Ted Danson]

Isn't he magnificent?

[Richard Kind]

He's a magnificent guy.

[Ted Danson]

He's my daddy, my show. Yeah, me too. Show business daddy.

[Richard Kind]

I'll bet.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah. You in Murders. I loved you this last season. Yeah, I think it was last season.

[Richard Kind]

Right.

[Ted Danson]

Really, really good. And that's an example of you being dark or threatening to be dark or threatening to be dark.

[Richard Kind]

There were parts that I chose to actually, yes. Be dark, but those were specifically. But usually I got an eye patch and hey, come on in.

[Ted Danson]

Hey.

[Richard Kind]

You know. But there was when I was down. In fact, the people who were directing it, who were great, and they directed Little Miss Sunshine is the Farris, the couple. So we're watching It's a Wonderful Life, and I was crying and everything, and I wanted to be dark. I wanted to not be the silly guy with the eyepatch. And they didn't want it go through that. Okay, okay. But I really wanted to make it really deeper than it was. You know, it was the thing with Griffin Dunn and us talking and being in class and talking about what so Wonderful Life is. And they asked. They subtly said, we know what you want to do. No, no. Not where we're going. And I was fine with that. I did it. But I wanted to take those moments and make it deeper.

[Ted Danson]

Do you write?

[Richard Kind]

Never.

[Ted Danson]

Do you direct?

[Richard Kind]

I wouldn't dare. I'm afraid of getting nine readings.

[Ted Danson]

No, you and I are the same, though.

[Richard Kind]

I just love to act, and that's what I do. Yeah, it's what I do. If not, let me go sell jewelry, which my dad. No, this is all I do. Let me do a podcast, and everybody thinks. Everybody thinks I'd be a great writer. And I'm telling you, they think I'm a good poker player. They think I'm a good golfer. I'm not. That's what I do. I act. That's what I do.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah.

[Richard Kind]

I'll give you the great example.

[Ted Danson]

You need to have a director, somebody, a writer, write you something where you're like the Scarlet Pimpernel. You're out of left field, and yet you destroy it. Destroy the world.

[Richard Kind]

I beg to beg for it, Mulaney. Because you had a mom.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah, Everybody. Woof. Rock star. Go on.

[Richard Kind]

Well, we could take another hour talking about the gifts that he has. People love me on the show.

[Ted Danson]

Yes, they do.

[Richard Kind]

I don't know what I'm doing. That's golf. That's like, here. I'm good now. I'm gonna tell you what I do best on the show, and you can see how much I talk. I keep my mouth shut because I'm an opinionated man and all my opinions are right, and I keep my mouth shut, so I let other people talk. What I can do is if the conversation's going and it's sort of a little too, like, there's nobody to say, hey, okay, enough about that. I can ask a question that can lead us somewhere else. I can help, John.

[Ted Danson]

Yes, you can. Shape.

[Richard Kind]

Yes, I can help. That's what I can do. I ask one question per guest. I make sure that I ask one question per guest. But I'll tell you, there was an episode that Conan was on, and I really wanted to ask this question. Cause I think it's pretty interesting. But again, I think all my questions are interesting. But I started talking. I said, but can I ask? Can I say something? And Conan, as a comic bit, went, who are you? What are you doing talking? Richard, you know, you're over there by the podium. What are you doing talking? And although it sounds like it's mean, he was very good. Cause he knows me, he's a friend, and he knows that I can take that joke. And so he used me as a comic for. It was not insulting at all. But my question was, they were talking about dinosaurs. And how do these people at the museums know that dinosaurs are real? Or did they look like that, or how many years? And what I wanna know is. And John, the two of them sort of doubted these scientists. And I go, at what age do you get the confidence to doubt scientists at a museum? Is that part of what makes you so good at what you do? Because they're so insightful that they can make these observations. And I'm not that guy. I'm not that insightful. Those guys are. They're brilliant. But what a lot of nerve to say. I don't. Did you see the episode?

[Ted Danson]

No. And I'm wondering what the response was.

[Richard Kind]

I didn't get to ask the question because Conan made fun of me and my position and said. And so I didn't get to ask the question.

[Ted Danson]

See, but that's the thing he's missed out on by thinking he needs.

[Richard Kind]

Oh, Conan.

[Ted Danson]

Really? Really. That is.

[Richard Kind]

But isn't that a good question?

[Ted Danson]

Yes.

[Richard Kind]

I wanted to know about them and not about dinosaurs. So I thought it was a good question.

[Ted Danson]

That's a good question. Cause I know my father was a scientist. We had dinosaurs in the museum, you know.

[Richard Kind]

Right. So. And I believe your father, but I'm somebody who blindly believes teachers, doctors and cops.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah, me too.

[Richard Kind]

I've grown up, though.

[Ted Danson]

Me too. And I don't know if I think it's probably a better way to go in life. And science evolves. Absolutely.

[Richard Kind]

Exactly.

[Ted Danson]

You learn new things.

[Richard Kind]

What's going on in the world. Oh, please, don't get me started. But that's who I am now. I have grown up a little bit. I see where cops can be bad. I see certainly where teachers. Here's something that was interesting. Do you know. Was that your foot?

[Ted Danson]

No.

[Richard Kind]

Okay. Do you know. Do you know what the number one job of A congressman. Okay. Some people could be lawyers or doctors or whatever. And then they run for Congress and they're in their town or in their district. Do you know what used to be the number one job of a congressman before he became a congressman?

[Ted Danson]

What?

[Richard Kind]

Undertaker.

[Ted Danson]

Woof.

[Richard Kind]

Because everybody knew the undertaker in town, right? So he ran for Congress. Isn't that wild? Yeah, I know. Now they're lawyers and everybody. And you go out and you become a career politician. The congressmen are not smart.

[Ted Danson]

Could be.

[Richard Kind]

I've gone through Creative Coalition. Okay, Maybe they're getting smarter. But I've gone and we've interviewed and we've talked to them about arts and trying to get money for education. And the arts and education. They're just downright dumb. I mean, a guy from. You know. Oh, I met Katie Seagal once. Oh, she's a pistol. Do you know who you're talking to? We're coming here to appeal to you for money for the arts. Whoa. You know, my daughters, they all. They're all ballerinas. Their mother wants them, so they get. But I can't give money to the arts. Your children are artists now because you're wealthy, but you can't give money for other people to have arts in their school. Those are. Congressman.

[Ted Danson]

And grades in things they care about, supposedly. Math and go up. Exactly.

[Richard Kind]

Because it teaches a way of thinking. They teach a way. Playing an instrument or reading music. It teaches a way of thinking and a way that your mind can work

[Ted Danson]

or playing a sport can do the same thing.

[Richard Kind]

I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

[Ted Danson]

No, it's true. I mean, the sense of being good at something and discipline rubs off. It rubs off on your other.

[Richard Kind]

I believe that. And they stand taller and get confidence. I don't think of that in sports. Because sports always gets money, but the arts do not. So I fight for the arts.

[Ted Danson]

Yes.

[Richard Kind]

So that's what it is. Yeah.

[Ted Danson]

I've done a lot of. In my day, testifying in front of Congress or walking the halls with my Oceania friends, talking about oceans.

[Richard Kind]

Sure.

[Ted Danson]

But I've learned early on that especially senators that were. The senator and I posed for pictures, shoot the shit about nothing. But, you know, we're charming to each other. Meanwhile, though, they're voting against staff. His staff, you know, or her staff. And Oceana's staff are in the back room talking real stuff. So I've kind of learned that the staff can be really smart and advise the senator or congressperson. So you want your staff to be in connection.

[Richard Kind]

Very interesting. Very Interesting. Yeah, that's very. That. That's like they say nurses really know more than doctors sometimes, that they know how to insert this or do whatever. They know the deal. You're right about that. The staff is very important. I agree with that. I once sat next to. I sat with a speechwriter and I said, why do you never run for office? He goes, you can't get anything done that way. There are other ways to impact the country. The minute they're elected, the next day, they gotta go out and campaign for huge sums of money, of course, in order to retain their job and of course do good work, they hope, but they gotta start campaigning. That and I have these little pithy things is when the congressmen or senators could go fly home for the weekend. They used to have to stick around and stay in town and live in Arlington or wherever they lived. And they would have to interact. Republicans and Democrats used to have to go to their Little League and coach their sons. Now their Little League is back in, you know, Montpelier or wherever you're going. And can you believe that's the first state capitol I could think of. Montpelier. But then they. So now they only see each other at work. They never saw each other as human beings. I believe people want unity.

[Ted Danson]

I do too.

[Richard Kind]

I really do.

[Ted Danson]

I 100% do. And it still leaves me with the question, so what do I do? You know.

[Richard Kind]

Have you read any of Project 2025?

[Ted Danson]

No, but I've heard so many people talk about it that. Yes, I mean, we're doing it.

[Richard Kind]

This is really an incendiary word, but it is a battle plan and they're succeeding faster than we could ever, ever have imagined. See, that was the bad thing is that, oh, democracy's gonna be, you know, when Harris was running Democracy is in peril and everything, they were words. They same words you used to read when you were in college that just went by Democracy in peril. Today, democracy is in peril. Oh my God, look what's going on. Democracy is in peril. All of a sudden I understand what this book is saying. So that's what we have to realize. And how far do we go and how far are the courts letting us go? And some of the courts don't mind Project 2025. That's the thing is that like when Reagan was in office, Reagan's. We didn't agree with anything he was saying, but he did. And he worked hard for our country, cuz he thought this was best. I think things are happening now that some people think are Best. But the great majority do not think are best. And that's what's scary for me. You know what I mean? I believe our country, man. I believe our country's great. Still great. Well, I also think I wanna, instead of maga, I wanna say, ma, make America America again. Okay, Ma, I need help make America America again. Cause I think we're going away from America from what we were told to believe. You know, the tortoise wins the race. George Washington could not tell a lie. No, you can tell lies. You can get away with it. The hare, the rabbit's winning. That's not what I was raised to believe. And that's what's going on. It's weird. It's really weird. Here's something really sad. This is really sad. I don't know whether I entirely believe this, but when I read an obituary about somebody who I know or somebody's father passes away, I go, well, at least they don't have to deal with America today. Isn't that a very sad, sad thing? I don't know whether I truly. But there's a part of me that says, whoa, look at them. They're lucky right now. They don't have to deal with it. Yeah, it's a very sad thing to say.

[Ted Danson]

Yep. But I can't.

[Richard Kind]

But, but I. But there's hope.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think the press, the news, the Internet, the da da da da da. It thrives on conflict. That's how we keep people tuning in.

[Richard Kind]

It's true.

[Ted Danson]

And there is genuine. Everything you just said is true. There are other things that you know and you can point to where you go, oh my God, the humanity in that moment. Oh my God, this is such a creative solution to a big problem. Or look at these people who are caring, loving, kind, taking care of others, or inventing something that really is making things better kind of thing that those things are taking place. Really.

[Richard Kind]

Yeah, I think they could. I just don't hope that the.

[Ted Danson]

I'm not saying I don't know if the press is going to change overnight what's happening. I don't know if that's going to happen. Hey, you know what? I'm sure that I miss a lot with my rose tinted gloves.

[Richard Kind]

Yeah, you're Polly under. Me too. Me too.

[Ted Danson]

I do. But that's how I have to live. I don't, I don't like my. I don't like being, my body, being angry. I can't, I don't do well with that. So I keep looking for, yeah, but

[Richard Kind]

you Might be the enemy in a

[Ted Danson]

weird way, because I'm going, oh, everything will be fine.

[Richard Kind]

Do you believe now? They always say the late 60s were the most difficult time for our country. The Civil War was a difficult time for our country. Do you think those eras were worse than they are today?

[Ted Danson]

I don't know. I mean, if you were in the middle of World War II, I don't think anything could have seemed worse than that.

[Richard Kind]

Right, sure.

[Ted Danson]

You know, when this country was conceived, talking to Ken Burns on the show, whatever this. Talking to Ken Burns, whatever this thing is, he was pointing out how during the revolutionary, the royals were killing everyone, was killing each other in the middle of our Civil War. You know, Revolutionary War, you know, it was. It was horrible and bloody and angry and. I mean, it is. I don't know. Here, this can't. You. It has to be like, oh, you want to test your humanity and your love of your fellow human being, and you want to get things done. You want to see how good you are at this, or you want to see when you're challenged, how you survive or do things. What a great time you have to look at. All right, this sucks, but what am

[Richard Kind]

I going to do?

[Ted Danson]

Oh, good. I have to work harder. Oh, good. I have to try harder. I have to give up being righteous, or I have to do something to make things better, even if you don't. Because at the end of it, my little go to make myself happy, ironically, is. And then you die, Ted.

[Richard Kind]

So fucking go for it. What I just said about, you know, you look at that person and go, well, they don't have to do all that. Let's do it. Let's, let's. And then you die.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah.

[Richard Kind]

And then there's the question. What happens then? But, you know, that's fine. I know, but that'll be fun.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah.

[Richard Kind]

Okay. You think? Wait, wait, now, hold on. I've taken you. I. What did you want to ask me other than what we've been to. Like. Like, about. About showbiz?

[Ted Danson]

So I want to know what makes you tick and makes you feel good in the morning. I want to know. All of that stuff is why I'm enjoying talking to you. Truly.

[Richard Kind]

It's like, I think you should make calls for comedy. I go out with my friends, my Republican friends. Friend. With two other guys like me who. And they just say, richard, shut up. This is what he thinks. You're not gonna change him. So we go and we talk. We don't talk politics, but we'll talk about women or we'll Talk about the movies or whatever we talk about. And all of a sudden, and especially in New York where you can't go play golf, what do you do? You sit around and you jibber jab over coffee and you talk about things. That's what you're doing here and you're getting paid for it. And you get to invite people who you wouldn't normally see, especially you who don't ask for coffee. I love this. If I weren't here, I'd be. I'm staying with my friend Spencer. I would be having a cup of coffee with him talking about this too.

[Ted Danson]

I know, I know.

[Richard Kind]

It's just another conversation that I want to continue tomorrow. That's what I do. I like this.

[Ted Danson]

Hey, if you find that guy, girl, lady, man, whatever. Who is that description of somebody you and I should sit down and listen to? Lots of.

[Richard Kind]

Oh, listen to.

[Ted Danson]

I listen to. Let's agree to come back here and do it. There's another microphone.

[Richard Kind]

It's tough. Oh, over there.

[Ted Danson]

How about Arnold?

[Richard Kind]

I'd love to.

[Ted Danson]

I would too. Arnold. I want total respect for him. And he doesn't believe like everything we do.

[Richard Kind]

No, no. But I think he's a good human being. Yeah, I think it. Okay.

[Ted Danson]

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[Richard Kind]

okay, you want to hear how opinionated I am? I used to have my finger on the pulse of what I used to read the TV Guide when I was a kid.

[Ted Danson]

Me too.

[Richard Kind]

I read it like a book. Okay. I knew everything. I said, this show's gonna be. This is good. This is. I found out a couple of ways where I was not just wrong. These are hilarious.

[Ted Danson]

Wrong.

[Richard Kind]

Farrah Fawcett had a poster with the. You remember that stuff up.

[Ted Danson]

Famous.

[Richard Kind]

Arnold Schwarzenegger when he was. Before he was a star, before he was anything, when he was a bodybuilder, said, I will have a poster. My poster will be bigger than Farrah Fawcett's. And I just said, you stupid muscle bound foreigner, you are an idiot. I was wrong.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah.

[Richard Kind]

Another one was I was the first person in quotes. Well, you can see on camera to win a million dollars on who Wants to Be a Millionaire.

[Ted Danson]

Well done.

[Richard Kind]

Paul Lasseter on Spin City because it was an ABC show. My character went, and I was the first person. Nobody knew that the money came down and the confetti all came. Paul Lasseter was the first person to ever win a million dollars. It's a hilarious episode. I'm really good at it. I'm really funny. But everybody, people on the crew had husbands or wives who were working on the show on cameras and everything. They go, how is it? I go, it's terrible. It's an hour of questions. Maybe you get six questions every half hour. Go watch Jeopardy. You get 30 before the commercial. It's. It's terrible. I was wrong. The third one. And this is. I don't know whether you can really understand this, but there are golfers who will. I was staying at the Hilton in Vegas and I wanted to play a golf course. So they had a reciprocity with the Vegas Golf club. So I go over there and I'm a single. And they go, do you mind playing with the. You'll know how long ago this was with the Callaway representative, West Coast Callaway emeritus. He drives up in a Rolls Royce Gol. He brings out a golf club. I go, what is that? He goes, this is called the Big Bertha. It's made of titanium. I didn't know what Big Bertha was. I certainly didn't know what titanium was. So this is years ago. And he hits the ball and it makes this sound. And he goes, would you like to try it? I go, yeah. I hit the ball great. I go, this is fantastic. My father's a golfer. This was in January. I go, this is fantastic. Where do you get these? He goes, well, it's coming out this April. I go, my dad's birthday's in May. Maybe I'll buy one for him. How's it gonna. How much will it go for? This is years ago. He goes, $500. I go, mister, you're not gonna sell one. I was wrong. It changed the golf industry. Everybody had the oversized. I'm so stupid and so confident. Don't. Only I'm right.

[Ted Danson]

Yeah, me too.

[Richard Kind]

So we'll talk to Arnold Schwarzenegger, and we'll say we're right. But we'll listen to you if you got something.

[Ted Danson]

You're so much fun to talk to.

[Richard Kind]

Oh, you're a blast. You're a blast.

[Ted Danson]

If this is the only way we get together, let's do it regularly.

[Richard Kind]

I'm. Okay. Here's the compliment. Is that I have such respect for your career. Not your acting, your career. That's something. Something. Because people think that they're battling. This is a war. You must outlast the war. You must be alive at the end. In spade. You are. And you're great at what you do, and you're kind and you're good. And I was really nervous to talk to you. I was here. I was here early. I'm never early. That's how much respect I have for you. I didn't shave, but I have a lot of respect, and I just think you're great. I think you're such a wonderful man.

[Ted Danson]

You know, we do edit things, so we'll put this at the head.

[Richard Kind]

So you find out how I've been affected. No, I just. I had such a nice time being here with you.

[Ted Danson]

Me too. You.

[Richard Kind]

Oh, golly. Golly, Yeah.

[Ted Danson]

I don't know why I don't just call Richard Kind and have a cup of coffee with them. I don't. That's who I am so this was a treat for me to hang out with them like that. That's all for our show this week. Special thanks to our friends at Team Coco. If you enjoyed this episode, send it to someone you love, subscribe on your favorite podcast app and maybe give us a great rating and review on Apple Podcasts if you're in the mood. If you like watching your podcasts, all our full length episodes are on YouTube. Visit YouTube.comteamcoco See you next time. Where Everybody Knows we're.

[Richard Kind]

You've been listening to where everybody Knows your name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson Sometimes. The show is produced by me, Nick Leow. Our executive producers are Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross, and myself. Sarah Fedorovich is our supervising producer. Engineering and mixing by Joanna Samuel with support from Eduardo Perez research by Alyssa Grohl talent booking by Paula, Garrett Davis and Gina Bautista. Our theme music is by Woody Harrelson, Anthony Yen, Mary Steenbergen, and John Osborne.

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