
Rosanna Arquette is a truth-teller, whether she’s conveying the emotional truth of a character or speaking out against injustice in the world. She talks to Ted Danson about how singlehood has changed her, the activist streak in her family, her childhood encounter with Martin Luther King Jr., how coming out against Harvey Weinstein impacted her, and more. Like watching your podcasts? Visit http://youtube.com/teamcoco to see full episodes.
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Rosanna Arquette
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Rosanna Arquette
Because I have been alone and haven't even dated and like, been celibate. I know, okay. And it's weird, but powerful.
Ted Danson
Yeah. Welcome back to where everybody knows your name. I am really excited to talk with Rosanna Arquette today. I've always found Rosanna to be an impressive, thoughtful person. One who sees her art as inseparable from service to others, much like the family she comes from. I couldn't wait to talk to her about that. And also her new movie that she's starring in alongside Charlie xcx. It's called A Moment and it's out now. Here she is, Rosanna Arquette. My belly button in my family is source of great humor because.
Rosanna Arquette
Do you have an Audi? A big Audi?
Ted Danson
I do now. Really? One of the worst things that's happened to me.
Rosanna Arquette
Did you have a hernia? You have a hernia?
Ted Danson
I did, yes. And that's just not fair. But more on this later.
Rosanna Arquette
Okay.
Ted Danson
Sorry. No, but it's worth it.
Rosanna Arquette
I'll interview you.
Ted Danson
Yeah, please. I know. I listened to your podcast. We were going to come Back.
Rosanna Arquette
But that's a long time ago. God would look.
Ted Danson
I know, but I want to talk about it anyway. At some point. But Mary has been known.
Rosanna Arquette
Where's Woody? He's making a movie.
Ted Danson
Do you see the last word there?
Rosanna Arquette
Sometimes. There you go.
Ted Danson
It used to be a parentheses.
Rosanna Arquette
Because he lives in Hawaii anyway. Right.
Ted Danson
Hawaii Austin. And he genuinely moves around the world with great ease and films and shoots and visits. And I miss him very much, But L. A s a little tough on his soul.
Rosanna Arquette
I'm. So. I moved to the east coast, so I'm only here just for my daughter. Had a premiere last night, so I'm staying at my sister's. And so. Yeah.
Ted Danson
That is so cool. Shoot. Before you came, I was gonna just do names again, but Zoe.
Rosanna Arquette
Zoe Blue.
Ted Danson
Yes.
Rosanna Arquette
Zoe Blue is my daughter. And she's coming out in the movie Dracula. She's the lead, and she's amazing.
Ted Danson
I saw a clip. Unbelievable.
Rosanna Arquette
She's a really incredible actress. And so we went last night. Patricia and I were. Her auntie and her mama and her nephew were there to support her. It was cool.
Ted Danson
This was the premiere last night?
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah. At the Chinese Theater. So it was.
Ted Danson
Oh, my God.
Rosanna Arquette
It was a big fun moment.
Ted Danson
Big Hollywood.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah.
Ted Danson
She's gorgeous. I just saw clips.
Rosanna Arquette
Obviously, a lot of people confuse her with Lily.
Ted Danson
Lily.
Rosanna Arquette
You're Lily?
Ted Danson
Yeah. My daughter Kate and Mary's daughter Lily.
Rosanna Arquette
Yes.
Ted Danson
Yes.
Rosanna Arquette
No. But no. Lily, who's married to Lily Collins. Collins. Lily Collins, who's married to your beautiful. We'll talk about your goddess wife. Her son is married to Lily Collins. And a lot of people confuse them.
Ted Danson
Can I just quickly do. Here's our family. Mary had two children, Lily and Charlie. Lily met a man named Charlie and got married. Charlie met a woman named Lily and got married. So we have two. Charlie and Lily.
Rosanna Arquette
That's so fantastic.
Ted Danson
We just called Charlie' of the family. The. The Collinses. It helps us. Yeah, yeah. Lily Collins, who is magnificent.
Rosanna Arquette
Yes. She is a good girl. I've known her parents for way before she was born.
Ted Danson
Wow.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah.
Ted Danson
Very cool.
Rosanna Arquette
Yep.
Ted Danson
Bill.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ted Danson
He's doing great.
Rosanna Arquette
He's doing okay right now. He's better.
Ted Danson
Great's not probably the right word. Way better. Way better. Yeah, Yeah. I spoke to him the other day. He was very smart.
Rosanna Arquette
Tell him I said hi. I haven't seen him in years, but. And. And Jill, the mama. We used to be quite close. Years ago. Eight years ago. This is a rock and roll. Years ago.
Ted Danson
Very cool. So many things just came up that I wish I Could remember where to jump in here. But usually I see you at Jane's. Jane Fonda's house surrounded by incredibly bright people. And I, over the years, watch every cool, astounding woman make a beeline for you to talk with you. And that'd be my wife as well. And I know. And she sends her love.
Rosanna Arquette
She's amazing. Like, so we kind of bonded in a moment of being seated at the Monaco Film Festival or something. We were both there, and she told me about her incredible gift that she got where she's. Music comes through and she's a songwriter. To me, that was like. God, like, wow. Like, I wish I. That is the neatest thing.
Ted Danson
And she kept it up and she
Rosanna Arquette
does it, and it's a real gift that she has. So I, of course, bonded with the music thing, and I just. She's just always been beautiful to watch on film, and she just has a great energy. And then Jane, who I've known since I'm 19 through the years, and then they did.
Ted Danson
She grabbed you and go.
Rosanna Arquette
When I was young, when I was a kid, and I fortunately, did come from a politically active family, so it was perfect, you know, but I just was. I just had my resist shirt on today, and I went to get an mri, so I had to take it off. But I thought it was a perfect thing to wear today. But I ended up changing so much to talk to you about the First Amendment Right. Committee for the First Amendment.
Ted Danson
Yes.
Rosanna Arquette
Okay, we're back.
Ted Danson
Because you are in my brain and everybody's. And, you know, you're an actor, activist, and we can talk about both. And I really get more delight out of talking about your activism or anybody's activism.
Rosanna Arquette
Me, too.
Ted Danson
But your career is astounding, and all the films you've made are astounding, and they are. Is this too far in the past or it embarrasses you or what. What was that?
Rosanna Arquette
I think it's just. I've just come out of this time where, you know, I was one of the people that came out against Harvey Weinstein. We put him in jail. And that was a huge impact on every level in society for women to be able to tell the truth and harmful in ways that you wouldn't have thought. You know, a lot of people protected him and still live behind bars. And they. And so there's been, like, there was a backlash with him before, and then that was just like, wow, you know, and then you have aging and then you have, you know, like all that. So. And I had a. I got divorced Again. And I'm not coming up to maybe catching up to Elizabeth Taylor. But yes, I believe in marriage. And so I got married, you know, me too.
Ted Danson
I've been married three times.
Rosanna Arquette
Okay. So for.
Ted Danson
I don't plan to.
Rosanna Arquette
One was a no. But anyway, that doesn't count. So. But, you know, definitely love. So when I see you guys, because I've been completely alone healing this thing that happened that was. Moved me across the country and no dating for four years. I just came to four years, like full on. And I really did it. Like, I did not the dating, not jumping into another thing. Not feeling the whole of pain, like by distraction with another relationship. And did that. And on January 1st, which would have been the exact four years, I. I just like, oh, I'm free. You know, I'm free. And it's been. And coming to la. I got out of la and last night, like, and I was like, I'm so glad. God, la and I can't stand LA is too hard for my soul. Like Woody. And then yesterday, like, I realized, like, oh, I'm. I'm over that and that's not hurting anymore. And like, I kind of Ms. LA a little bit. Like, my friends are here. I'm in a snowstorm up of my knees, you know, so it was the
Ted Danson
welcome home or back or whatever. Yeah, yeah. So. So I think your rabbi would be proud of you.
Rosanna Arquette
So. Rabbi?
Ted Danson
Yeah, I. I listen to that podcast.
Rosanna Arquette
I like Rabbi Finley, he's amazing. He lives in Israel. But I, I also, like, I have to say, like, I was raised, but my father was Christian, my mother was Jewish. They decided to become Muslims. So we were raised with all religions.
Ted Danson
Tolerance.
Rosanna Arquette
We had. Yeah, we had Ramadan, we had Christmas, we had Hanukkah, which, Hanukkah's more like a Hallmark, but, you know, Passover and to celebrate all religions. And I honored them all and Buddhism too, and everything. And so I just believe, you know, God is love. Ultimately, I do this. That's ultimate.
Ted Danson
Let's stick where we are. Okay. So that incredible family you got raised in. And I love your sister Patricia. I know I don't really know David, but I love him from afar. Yeah, he's amazing.
Rosanna Arquette
He's like. Makes me cry. He's in Nashville and on a farm. They moved over there and the power went out and the state's not really taking care of them.
Ted Danson
It's bad, bad right now.
Rosanna Arquette
It's really bad. And, you know, he was supposed to be here with us and he, you know, was carrying buckets of Water to the animals. And now his back is out and he feels terrible, but he's just the most lovely. Amazing. All of them are. You know, I love my sister. We've gone through a lot of stuff because we had Alexis, our trans sister, who died, and that was very.
Ted Danson
How long ago was that?
Rosanna Arquette
I think it's. Oh, my gosh.
Ted Danson
I think I was working with your sister at the time.
Rosanna Arquette
Trauma.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
It blew us all up. Like, we all went kind of our sep. We weren't like. We went our separate ways. There was a lot of angst. And she takes. She's so Alexis. R. Ken.
Ted Danson
Alexis.
Rosanna Arquette
And Alexis died of AIDS related causes. And it was horrible.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
And so David and I started. Well, our family, but David and I mostly started this. The Alexis Arquette. It's the Alexis Project. And it's at. It was a USC medical center and it was a clinic. Full force clinic. Working at USC Medical Center. And they just shut it down just recently. Yeah. I'm sorry. Help kids to help children who are being thrown out of the street because they want to work pink or beaten up. You know, like. Do you know what I mean?
Ted Danson
They do know.
Rosanna Arquette
And so it's been really horrible. I can't even talk without bursting into tears. It's been very painful. And that's Dr. Astrid Hagar, who is a child abuse doctor. And she was seeing so much abuse, especially in the LGBTQIA community, impacting children
Ted Danson
because of federal funding that they might lose. They had to do that.
Rosanna Arquette
They got. The head of the hospital came and said, this has got to go. Just happened. So it's gone. And that's.
Ted Danson
That's. What's the trouble with saying glibly. Elections count or whatever. You know, you lost and what is that phrase? But there's so much suffering and death. Death as a result of removing funding around the world. Anywho.
Rosanna Arquette
And we. And so we're trying to, like, how do we. I'm learning so much in this time, having spent a lot of time alone in this healing process. We're like, you know who your friends are. The community is really important. And. And then I. I was. I went and got this MRI because we're all having to check our. As we get older, we have to do these tests that are like, scary, wild thing. Yeah. So just to make sure everything's cool. But, like, you know, I was like, a little flaggy because I had a lot of trauma and trauma impacts your brain. And so. Yeah. And so I went in there and got the loud test and stuff. And then I. My brain. I was going, like. And if they. If I have something really bad, I have something really bad, and that they tell me I have, like six months to live or something, I'm going to do it in the front lines. I am. That's how I'm going. I would. I'm going. I could. You all. Sorry.
Ted Danson
No, no, you alls are good. That's not.
Rosanna Arquette
Not you. I saw, like, meaning the guys who I'm standing, like, no, no. You know, and. And I thought I would be very honored to die that way. You know, maybe I shouldn't say.
Ted Danson
You are. You are.
Rosanna Arquette
Wait a minute.
Ted Danson
Not yet.
Rosanna Arquette
You get these wackadoodles that, you know, you don't say, oh, really? You know, but that's Jane.
Ted Danson
Jane wants to spend the rest of her life, which she always has, making a difference. I know. She's my hero, literally.
Rosanna Arquette
Right?
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
She's.
Ted Danson
Leave her alone for a second. Go back. Go back. Because the first one was be your mother, Martin.
Rosanna Arquette
My mom.
Ted Danson
Your mom. I mean, you grew up in this family. We're skipping around a little bit and everything. But what was that like?
Rosanna Arquette
My mom was a young mom who, like, she was a serious activist. Always. She raised us with that. But in Chicago, she was one of the people that coordinated a peace march for the anti Vietnam war in Chicago. And Martin Luther King came.
Ted Danson
Wow.
Rosanna Arquette
And he was there. And like I said, where are the pictures? I wanna find these pictures. Because I was on the back of a truck with him and she had painted on my chest, stop the war, Kill no more, on my bare chest. And I was in the back of a truck with Martin Luther. He was like, you know. Yes. And so I remember this moment. And he just looked at me, he goes, what's your name? And I told him my name. And he goes, somebody put a shirt on the little girl.
Ted Danson
He was thinking, what's your name, bud?
Rosanna Arquette
Yes. And you know, and it's true. Like, mine was very free. Like, go, let's. It's okay to be. But, you know, he was actually protecting me.
Ted Danson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
He was protecting me early. He was protecting me early. And he saw that. Wait a minute. It's okay. But she is, you know, six or something. It was like, you know.
Ted Danson
Yeah, yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
Not in diapers. So.
Ted Danson
Wow. What year do you think? When. Backwards.
Rosanna Arquette
60 years. Like a long time ago.
Ted Danson
65.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah.
Ted Danson
Something like that.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah. Like so. Cause I was.
Ted Danson
You have to go. You have to go to the newspaper or whatever the big newspaper was back then and go through their archives. I will Bet you.
Rosanna Arquette
Yes. I wish we could find like pictures as a mom. Cause you didn't have like the iPhones and like she didn't have a camera in the moment, but like, wow, like, what a. I would have loved to have that.
Ted Danson
What about the acting side of her?
Rosanna Arquette
Acting? So she was an actress? Poet. She studied to be an actress. I mean, she did a lot of cheesecake modeling, you know, stuff toplessy things that my brother David did a club called Boosie Bellows. Basically. She was kind of, sort of, kind of, sort of was stripping.
Ted Danson
I love this.
Rosanna Arquette
And her name was Boosie Bellows. And so Boosie Bellows. There were pictures, like, she would have. She wasn't alive, but she would like. No, she was. Wouldn't have liked that. That he found Bootsy Bellows and pictures and blew them up. But, you know, but yeah, she. To raise money to like feed the kid. You know, me, really. I was the first one. So I'm the eldest. And so she did do that. She had a lot of shame about it. Then she taught acting, married an actor. Actor, musician. You know, they both came from incredibly dysfunctional families, so they brought that stuff to the table. And then, you know, she worked through years and years of her own processing. She came from a violent mom. She herself had violence towards me a lot and all the kids. I just had a conversation with Patricia. Cause that happened to her too. Cause I was always thinking that it was just me, but it wasn't. And. And you know, she goes, no, that happened to me. And it was like, oh, wow. You know, like, I didn't. Wow. You know. So then my mom worked very hard on herself and became a therapist for abused people. Women and especially.
Ted Danson
Fantastic.
Rosanna Arquette
And so worked through it and had just gotten her license the week she died.
Ted Danson
And how long ago was that?
Rosanna Arquette
So I. She was like 30 something years ago. Wait, I was.
Ted Danson
But she knew. Had she met Rosanna Arquette, Actor?
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was very. She was. She. She did have like, I. I have like fangirl letters from my mom. That was kind of nice. She, you know, she was very critical too. Jewish mom critical. She had that.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
So. And I have to work really hard on my judgment criticisms. I didn't realize I had like, with your daughter. It's like, I. Oh, I was like, oh, you know, I don't like. Yes. And I. And I've worked really. We've gone through stuff. So that. That's not on. We. I don't. I work really hard to not do that. Might be a little like. Well, Da, da, da. And like, she has.
Ted Danson
I'm the same way. And I. You wouldn't think that of this glorious human being, but I. I did it to my daughter. And Mary turned to me and went, what are you doing? And it wasn't like it for me. It was like, I think because for so many years I've done half hour sitcom. You have five days to get it right. So you'd, you know, everything that's right is great, move on. And no, this doesn't work. So your eye goes through what doesn't work.
Rosanna Arquette
Yes.
Ted Danson
And instead of telling my daughter all the myriad of things that she was doing that was right, I picked down the one thing my eye went to that wasn't quite right and told her it was just horrible.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, but you had your partner in life that was able to just go, what are you doing?
Ted Danson
And you go, I think it was stronger than that.
Rosanna Arquette
But yes, but you could take it and hear it. Yes, hopefully in the moment. But maybe not. You did. And she. And you went, wow, I'm wrong. And see, that's the thing that. That's where we learn. Right?
Ted Danson
Okay.
Rosanna Arquette
But we would have been after the
Ted Danson
Mary for enough times that when she saw it, my daughter, she went. Then she went, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta stop. That's a real.
Rosanna Arquette
You are so lucky that you guys do have a. You know, makes me cry because you do have like a energetic glow around you. You know, like that's like a. It's palpable. Like, it's the aura. Yeah, aura.
Ted Danson
It is. And we do. We do all the. We do all the bad, you know, all the angry, all the what we do everything, you know, but we kind of met each other. I was 45, she was 40. And we had made all. I. We had made all the mistakes. We had made so many mistakes, or at least I have. I'll speak for myself that I thought I'm incapable of having a relationship. So anyway, you work through that stuff and then you get handed that perfect person and it's, you know, you don't waste your time.
Rosanna Arquette
It's a blessing.
Ted Danson
You're very lucky. Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
Like. And were you not even looking or were you.
Ted Danson
No, I had really went, oh, I'm done. I can fuck up any relationship because I saw it was me. Yeah, it was always me.
Rosanna Arquette
You know, I always take my 50%. Always. But I do have. I'm a bad picker for the. Not for me. Not to say they're bad people. It just wasn't the right thing for my Life and clearly theirs. So.
Ted Danson
Yeah, but then you go bigger picture, and you never know what your deeper, bigger purpose is. And you're certainly doing it, just figuring
Rosanna Arquette
it out, you know, can I?
Ted Danson
Can I? Because I just came from something last night that was all women, and I'm always in rooms with all women.
Rosanna Arquette
How?
Ted Danson
I don't know.
Rosanna Arquette
That's cool.
Ted Danson
Hormone count. Something's off with me.
Rosanna Arquette
No, it's a good thing. It means that you accept and love and honor women and you don't feel threatened by them.
Ted Danson
No. Yeah, it's possible. Am I saying that I never feel threatened by Jane Fonda? Of course I do. No, I don't. So, anyway, last night was about. Because as you mentioned, Mary is a songwriter for real. This is what she does. And she goes to Nashville and co writes with all these amazing people and these amazing people. And Mary, last night, got up. It's a thing called Mother. And it comes under the. What is it? I can't remember. The overall brain. I can look it up in a minute. The overall umbrella is some other thing that deals with supporting women. But this is women who are mothers and who are breaking through in the music world. And all of a sudden they're asked to stop or they don't have the money to hire a nanny or they can't afford the bus, so they're going around and they just. It's like there were like six or seven amazing singers, half of them real artists that were traveling around and raising money and attention to go, let's support this. It doesn't have to be that because you're a woman and you have your baby, that you don't get to be creative in all areas, including your art.
Rosanna Arquette
That's right.
Ted Danson
It's pretty cool.
Rosanna Arquette
It's amazing. And I said, pay for the babysitter so I can go in the studio for this week. That's fantastic.
Ted Danson
And that's what your documentary for Deborah Winger was about. I watched it.
Rosanna Arquette
You know, I wish I would have had Mary in that. Oh, she would have been so perfect for that. You know, it was just. But, yes, but tell us what that
Ted Danson
was about and how you got into that.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, it's exactly that. Balancing your life with the art. Something. When once you become a mother or you're an artist and you choose another artist to be with and you're making it work. But some people can't do that. There's jealousy, there's competitiveness. There's feeling like. Well, but to. To. To explore the balance it. Balance of all that. So it's called Searching for Deborah Winger. And I. It was. I. I think I had hit 40, and I was kind of like, this isn't fun anymore. Like, auditions. I. An agent said to me, well, they just think you're too old, you know? And it was so callous. And I just remember going, I feel like I'm just coming where ingenue's done, and I want to, like, explore this stage of my life, and that's where I'm at now. Like, even now. Like, I am grandma. I could be a grandma. You know, it's like, okay. And so. But they were basically saying it was, you're over with. Could have come around the Harvey Vibe world too. Maybe that was just, like, something was going on and the agent got. I don't know, but it was.
Ted Danson
After you had said something, you got that response or.
Rosanna Arquette
No, I think I didn't know stuff that was going on, you know, until people were coming to me, like, you know, someone had. I had told Jane a long time ago, but she. And. And a few people knew that this had happened, but everybody. We all. You had to keep your. Like, no one was going up against this guy. It wasn't until a couple journalists came, Ronan Farrow in particular, who I love, who came to me and said, heard that this happened with you. The anxiety that went through my body was so intense. And also the New York Times, they asked, too,
Ted Danson
the anxiety before you spoke well.
Rosanna Arquette
And I said, I know this is gonna be a big deal. Like, am I gonna ever have a career and have health insurance? You know, like, was that. You know? And I was like, it's time to talk about this, because this is not okay. And so we did many, many, many people who were impacted. And then once we met everybody, it was a community, and it was all of us. And the MeToo movement, of course, is Tarana Burke. And that was kind of hijacked, but that she had been doing the MeToo was women in a basement telling their stories and having a support group, which was incredible. So, you know, she is the person that started the Me Too movement. And so we always have to honor her, which I always did, and knew a lot of people didn't do that, and it pissed me off. So. Which he's. So it did because of Twitter at the time, which was the town square, and it no longer is. I got off it the night that he bought it four or five years ago or, like, the last midterm with him and knew, like, oh, no, man. This is about controlling the nerve. I'm Getting off this thing now, you know, and I was right. But at the time, it was a very impactful, powerful thing that went viral around the world.
Ted Danson
Right. Did you have a sense of camaraderie with the people who also came out, or was that.
Rosanna Arquette
There were. There were many, many, many of them, yes. And then, you know, and then there were, you know, you can't say this, but, like, there were people that kind of were like, jumped on a bandwagon that went, well, pinched me in the ass in the 70s and, you know, became. It became like it diminished it. And where is it? Like, it's.
Ted Danson
It's.
Rosanna Arquette
It's terrible. Look what's happened. I mean, we're. We're in a government now with nobody cares. And even children, it's okay to. I mean, they're just normalizing this horror. And so, yeah, it's been a quite a thing. So in the documentary you asked me about, it was balancing, like, as an artist, balance your life with your work and the relationships and the marriage. Cause something always in my life anyway, took the backseat. It would be like, you go do a movie. But my daughter's starting nursery school and I'm going to be on location in Canada. Like, I can't miss her first day of nursery school. This is so horrible. I remember having a complete, utter meltdown in my trailer, sobbing because I was missing my daughter's first day of nursery school. And it was. No. Well, it was actually the first day of the second year. Thank God. Yeah, it was the second time. And. And. But it was horrible, you know, it was like, I don't wanna be that mom. Like, I. And I did have help. Our nanny, Nanny o', Neilia, who was with me, helped me be able to work and have a solid thing for my daughter when I did go away. And the longest I would go away, the longest was two weeks, which was horrible. And then when she became a teen teenager, forget it. It was like, you need to be home. No.
Ted Danson
Oh, oh. The other.
Rosanna Arquette
No. It was like, no, I needed to be around. No. Then it was like, I need to be around. So there was something that was going to take me along. It impacted things, and not a resentment way, but it was hard to balance it all. Like, God, please. My kingdom for a television series in Los Angeles would have been amazing, but it just never happened.
Ted Danson
Mary said that you always feel like you're in the wrong place, always, because you're either missing being able to have your creative outlet that brings you joy, or you're missing your children. So it's like almost this no win situation. She was making big movies. She'd won an Oscar. And then kids came and it's like, I think she did it once and went, oh, I can't do this anymore. I will have to pick really juicy parts in. In the summer. Really good movies that are small. So it's two weeks. I can bring them for the first three, you know, and then they come the weekend and then they'll come. So they can still be in and out of school.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah.
Ted Danson
And all that. And that works until. Or take them. Or she would take them with them during summer.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.
Ted Danson
But that works until they're fifth, sixth grades. And then they. They want to be with their friends.
Rosanna Arquette
They want to be with their friends. They don't really want to be with you, but you don't want to leave in that time when it. Especially now. I mean, I have to say, the challenges that parents have right now, navigating, like, I don't. I don't know if I could have been a great mom during the shutdown and doing school online. I think I would have. I don't know how great.
Ted Danson
I just hated it.
Rosanna Arquette
Well, I think it impacted social. Look at. It's impacted the youth, everything. And it, you know, you go into conspiracy theory. It was like this shutdown was the way they kind of got in there to these minds and could. There was a friend of mine whose kid was online, seven, eight years. Eight years old, doing work, and a cartoon popped up. They went to the cartoon, and it was a porn cartoon of a rape.
Ted Danson
Wow.
Rosanna Arquette
Like, what is. How did. What is this? So were they. They just knew all these kids were at home trying to navigate the school. I can't even, like, work the computer. Right. Get you online. It's like, it's just like, you know, I'm freaking out about the new portals that we have to do medically. Like, what? I feel like a knucklehead. My mom. My daughter's like, so, mom, Zoe said to me, mom, you're like such a knucklehead with, like, this tech stuff. And I am. I don't.
Ted Danson
Me too. And it makes my brain hurt and it makes me slightly angry.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, me too.
Ted Danson
And then I. So I take. No, I don't. I don't do social media, and I don't. And I'm glad I'm not. But I also know that what I did was step off a train. You know, the train is. This is. This is the direction the world is going, obviously. Clearly.
Rosanna Arquette
I know.
Ted Danson
And I. I Probably think I can't.
Rosanna Arquette
I'm like, I, I, I. Have you ever. Does it just pop up? The thing that goes around? I'm really bad with this. When, when the AI seems like it's listening to you and I literally go, you Nazis. I just, like, I just, I was like, I do. I was like, fuck you. Nothing. I don't want you. And I had this whole thing was like a Google thing and screaming at the, you know them. Like I said, you know, I hate this Google thing. And they're usually. And then I couldn't get. I had to, like, look up something. Would not let me do it. It listened to me.
Ted Danson
And literally I thought you were going to say it was going to just send you material on Nazis. She clearly loves Nazis. So let me, let me give it. Did that really happen? You got locked out? Wow.
Rosanna Arquette
That just happened last week. And I was thinking I was going crazy.
Ted Danson
I did something where I was mad and swore and it responded, you know, in a gently admonishing way. And it was so effective. I apologized and I think maybe that's why I didn't get barred. I swear to God, it's so strange.
Rosanna Arquette
What did it say? Like, it said that language is not okay.
Ted Danson
Yes, yes. I can't respond to that language.
Rosanna Arquette
And you said, I'm so sorry. I did.
Ted Danson
Such an idiot.
Rosanna Arquette
But there's something. Have you seen this show Pluribus, by the way?
Ted Danson
We just lost everyone. Yes, I did.
Rosanna Arquette
Okay, so I just like a few. But the thing about when she has this rage and anger and then what it does to the other person, it's really, it's like, it's smart. And I think, oh, wow. Our moods are like, you know, like. Or you can not have the right. You can come from a place of reactivity, which is the thing I'm working at, like. And a mood, a dark mood or a bitchy tone can really affect somebody's life, you know, and it's very smart. And I thought, oh, I'm thinking of it that way.
Ted Danson
And can you imagine that? You know, that screen or whatever, you know, this little screen that I at will go to and that little screen, or what comes over it, infuriates me, saddens me, makes me scared. And then you kind of pop back every once in a while. I look at myself sitting in a room by myself with this in my hand. Why am I doing that to myself? Because you can read and not have the same impact. You can read in a newspaper.
Rosanna Arquette
Yes.
Ted Danson
And it doesn't.
Rosanna Arquette
Well, we used to be Able to read a newspaper. Who owns them now? But I mean, yes, I want. Give me a great newspaper with news.
Ted Danson
Okay.
Rosanna Arquette
Propaganda.
Ted Danson
What's your cheery. Because we're going down this rabbit hole. Which is true. It's true. And it is scary. But I sit there and I look at my granddaughters and my grandson and I go, well, I can't come up to them. I go, this world is really fucked up. I can't understand how you're going to deal with. You know.
Rosanna Arquette
I know.
Ted Danson
So we do have to flip that narrative and go, they are smart enough, they have the tools. Maybe they will be able to navigate through this and get to the other side. Because empathy is going out the window with a screen.
Rosanna Arquette
It's built to do that. I think it's how they control us. I really do believe in energy. The energy that everybody carries and like the. There's a darkness in. In the news cycle that's so dark
Ted Danson
on both sides, by the way.
Rosanna Arquette
Oh, yes.
Ted Danson
Both sides.
Rosanna Arquette
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I'm not. Oh, damn it. Like, I'm just like, dude, you guys are. What is happening.
Ted Danson
A lot of anger and fear on both sides. You know, we've burned so many bridges together today.
Rosanna Arquette
Yes. But we can rebuild them.
Ted Danson
Call me when you get your brain scanned back.
Rosanna Arquette
I know. I've been. I've been. I think what's getting me through this time too, I realized, like, because that the theme is We Shall Overcome. It's like the. A chorus of soulful singers singing We Shall Overcome. And I just. I still. It's naive. And people think I'm naive. I have to hold on to that hope. And I know Jane has that, you know, even though. Although she's impacted, we're all like, this is. They want us to be scared. They want us to. And so. And of course we can. We're human beings. It's really scary stuff. And especially when people are being shot in the face for standing there protecting their neighbors. But the energy of fear is very, very powerful. And I think, like, if we. Everybody's doing what they can do to bring awareness and just kind of stay out of the actual toxic energy of it.
Ted Danson
Yep. And you know, we dipped into the toxic stuff, you and I just now. And I'm sitting there going, whoops.
Rosanna Arquette
Should we go? Some positive stuff.
Ted Danson
Well, not whoops, because it's real. What we talked about was real. But I'm 78. I don't know how much you are. Yeah, 10. Oh, fuck. Is that bad?
Rosanna Arquette
No, no, no. No, I'm really.
Ted Danson
No, I look. I look really.
Rosanna Arquette
No, no, you're very youthful in your energy.
Ted Danson
Childish.
Rosanna Arquette
We're talking about energy, though. We're talking about energy. And I actually would not feel that or think that, like, that's why I said I thought maybe 70, maybe like 67. Like, you just hit that maybe, you
Ted Danson
know, like teenagers are going, what, 70 is good.
Rosanna Arquette
No, no, but CC.
Ted Danson
But here's my point that I. However much longer we all have, you never know. I don't want to give away my joy, and that would be on me and my sense of hope and laughter. God, I depend on laughter. So Mary and I laugh a lot. And it's not wrong. You do what you can do to stop things that are really evil. And if you. You don't have that in your makeup, then find somebody who does and support them if they're doing legal, good, noble work.
Rosanna Arquette
Very smart.
Ted Danson
But, you know, keep your laughter going, keep your joy, keep your hopefulness going. And it feels better in your body.
Rosanna Arquette
It feels better in mind because all of this stuff is impacting our health in a way. The negativity of it, the fear itself is dangerous. I just was reading about trauma in the brain and where it goes. And the trauma in the brain goes to the back here, all the neck area, thigh, all that.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
And so that's.
Ted Danson
I mean, we're definitely getting to the point where we know that disease is dis. Ease that, you know, your unexpressed grief, your rage or whatever that is not dealt with does. Does have an impact on your body.
Rosanna Arquette
And we're very, very blessed to be in a business that we're actually. We can express those feelings in characters or, you know, in ways creatively, which is, you know. Well, we're. It's. We're lucky. We're very lucky to be very lucky.
Ted Danson
I love our tribe, people. I love.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, you're really good friends with another one. One of my besties who I love so much is. I've known her since she was 19, is Laura.
Ted Danson
Laura Dern. Oh, my God.
Rosanna Arquette
She loves you guys.
Ted Danson
Yeah, we love her.
Rosanna Arquette
She's a very big. I've known her since she was 19. Love her. We met going with Jane up California, up the coast of California and registering people to vote for the toxic water initiative. With Tom and her. I met her. She was 19 years old. She was with Kyle then.
Ted Danson
Yes.
Rosanna Arquette
And that's when we met. And we were. You know, I came in from her mama's memorial. I was really.
Ted Danson
Diane.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, with Diane.
Ted Danson
We weren't able to go to the memorial. We went to the thing in Ojai. Celebration.
Rosanna Arquette
Yes, her life celebration, which I couldn't go to, but I was happy to go to.
Ted Danson
You interviewed some really interesting Diane Lane is a great friend too in your documentary.
Rosanna Arquette
I just got off the phone with her. We're so close and so we're. Yeah, she moved east too. So we meet in the middle and I told him to be home this weekend. She goes, where are you? I said I'm actually just had the MRI and I'm at Erewhon, which I
Ted Danson
love when I come to La Erewhon and mri. What more can you.
Rosanna Arquette
So I said I'll be home this weekend. Let's hang out.
Ted Danson
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Rosanna Arquette
I used to do this that when I like I started it during the first, the podcasting thing, which.
Ted Danson
Covid.
Rosanna Arquette
During COVID Yeah, it was during COVID And I did it, you know, I had, I had, you know, out of my home and it was my, like, I love. I did two documentaries where I interview people searching for Deborah Winger and all we are saying which was musicians. And I really love like you're doing. I'm interested in other people. So here I am talking about myself and I haven't done that in a really long time. So it's kind of okay. I'm sick of my voice now. And tell me about you.
Ted Danson
I love doing this because I do get to talk a little bit about myself, but I love finding out. It's like we'd never go, you know, at Jane's, find a corner and talk and ask you all these things and find out what makes you tick.
Rosanna Arquette
We don't have the time.
Ted Danson
I never look at you ever again. The same because I got to have this and it's really, it's really lovely. Woody does this naturally in life, you know, over a joint.
Rosanna Arquette
I know Woody. Oh my gosh, he's during the. When the MeToo movement was the heightened Harvey Weinstein big time. And it was. Guillermo won for his. That movie. The other movie.
Ted Danson
Yeah. Something of water.
Rosanna Arquette
Some water. Water. What is it? Shape of water. Yes.
Ted Danson
Shape of water. Thank you. Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
And Woody was there. I remember it was. And he. And he. He, like, went to hug me, goes, I'm afraid to hug you. And I was. Because he thought, like. So I was like. I went really? Like, come on. You know.
Ted Danson
Yeah, that's a good thing to ask him in that. Really? Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
I, like, I was the person that was going to, you know, do that to him. And I was like, no. I was like, come on. That's.
Ted Danson
There were so many levels of what of the. Me too. And. And the lessons for men that come out of that. Because I'm. There's a lot that, like, you say somebody got their butt pinched.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah.
Ted Danson
Not the same level of the really evil stuff that happens. Like, And.
Rosanna Arquette
And there were girls. There were women that, you know, there are like. I mean, rape is rape, and then there's sexual harassment in a very deep way. I was not raped. I was very fortunate not to. I sure could have been. But I have a spidey sense of red flag thing in me that, like, danger, danger. Like, I hitchhiked across the country when I was 15, which was insane. And my. And with. And I had a boyfriend. We did do that together, but fake IDs and get to San Francisco. And there was a crazy truck driver. And I just had this horrible feeling. There was books out that Frank Figaluzzi did about the truck drivers and murderers on the highway. I mean, the. This guy could have been one of those guys. And I knew. And I made up this whole thing like I was gonna have diarrhea. And his. Get me out. I need to get out. He got us out. He got us out. You know, like. But I like. So the spidey sense in me of just like, danger, danger. I have that. That's what happened with Harvey, where I'm supposed to have this meeting and this movie that he wanted. He said he wanted me to. He ended up not doing this movie. So I don't even like. But for a minute he was doing Romeo's Bleeding with Gary Oldman, and they wanted me to play. He wanted me. I was gonna play the wife. This is. Who knows? Because my Annabella Shore ended up playing that role and is a major person that I had many, many conversations with to be able to trust Ronan enough to talk to. And she. But he didn't produce that movie.
Ted Danson
But.
Rosanna Arquette
So I went to the Beverly Hills Hotel to have dinner with Harvey in the Polo Lounge. And, oh, I got the new script. You're gonna love script. And I get there, and they go, Mr. Weinson will see you upstairs. And I was like. So first thought was like, and then I'll know that he's got the penthouse. And, you know, because a lot of actors we would go to meet in a hotel, you know, and it was never. So I went up and I could feel this, you know, thing in here. And he opens the door in the white bathrobe. Oh, I can't move my neck. So. I can't move my neck. Like, really? And I went. And it just, like. And I backed away. And I said, I have a masseuse for you. I can get you a masseuse. He goes, no, no, no, no, Rosanna, Pull the hand down to whatever. And I pull it away. And he goes, you're making a very big mistake, Rosanna. Look what I did for. He gave me Gwyneth Paltrow and Elle McPherson. Meanwhile, Gwyneth is one of the women that came out against him. So that was his ploy. Look, she won an Oscar for. It's like, that's what he would do, you know, doesn't mean she did anything. And I said, I will never be that girl. And I go in the elevator, and I'm like, this is. And as soon as I got to the bottom, I knew. I just said, oh, my God, he's gonna. This is it. And within, you know, minutes, like, in a couple weeks, meetings got canceled. A thing I was. Fell apart. The worst reviews in the world of, like, you know, which he. Now we know that he paid off people to do stuff like that. And it was brutal. And that was years before that we came out. So, like, there was, like.
Ted Danson
There was a slow down that happened years before.
Rosanna Arquette
It was like a slowdown happened. And I am in Pulp Fiction. Quentin Tarantino directed that. It did happen after the fact. But I am the only person in the movie that did not get a back end. Quentin wanted me, so he didn't say no. But I didn't make a diamond. Everybody else, you know, made quite a lot of money because everybody worked for scale. But we. All the people that whatever, who'd worked a long time had the back end, and they didn't give it to me. I think he. He used these people as. As like thinking that was a lure. Like a. Yeah. You know. Yeah, fishing you in like an Oscar, you know, like. And.
Ted Danson
Yeah, I think really, really evil.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah. But, I mean, I got in a lot of trouble. Not a lot, but people were upset because he is in a horrible prison and he is in Rikers, and that place should be shut down. It's not for anybody. It's a human rights violation on every level. And so I kind of, like, I want it shut down, and I don't. He's in jail. He's lost his career. He is a very sick man. You know, I had this crazy thought of interviewing him in jail, you know, like, because I do believe in redemption. Redemption and forgiveness. And if somebody is willing to look at themselves and, like. And it's like this powerful man. How did you get here? And, like, and. And have it be. You know, And I said something like that somewhere and what. Or was, like, on the line or something about, like, I. I don't think anybody deserves to be in that place. It's one thing. They're out of society, but, like, you don't. Nobody needs to be treated, you know, with shit on the walls. I'm sorry.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
And it needs to be shut down. And so I said that, and then I got, you know, people like, he deserves that. And I was like, I. I think
Ted Danson
no, redemption is.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, yeah, right.
Ted Danson
Check the Bible.
Rosanna Arquette
I. Yeah, yeah. I believe in redemption and forgiveness for the. You know, and if someone is willing to, like, there's so many prisoners, like, now, the doughboys, you know, down the mark that Jane and Lily are always doing down the bakery. Down. Homeboys, Homeboys. Homeboys, Homeboys. And what a gorgeous organization that is. These guys have been imprisoned, tattoos. They've done horrible things. And that father. What's his name? The father, Greg Will. And his books are amazing. And. I'm sorry, they're forgetting anybody's name. Yes. And those are. That's like, these are people that are really completely turned their lives around, and they did some terrible things, but they're not doing terrible things now, and they're owning their stuff. And so I believe in that.
Ted Danson
I do, too, my friend I'm interviewing Friday. Mark Vahanian has started something over the years, having met Father Boyle and worked alongside in some areas, something called Pathway to Kinship, which is. Working with. It started with recently, you know, incarcerated people getting out. I mean, who were incarcerated and working to get them, you know, home, a real job so that they can thrive. But then he started going into prisons and working with people, including lifers, who will never get out, but who wanted to make a difference by working with those people who would possibly get out and he goes in with people who are victims, who have been victims of violent crime or their family members. And. Yeah, redemption is a very powerful thing. And if you think, sorry, I'm practicing my. What I know about my friend Mark.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah.
Ted Danson
But if you, if you don't do this, 70% of the people who are put out on the street with, I don't know what, nothing, they'll return to crimes. Yeah. What are they going to do? I mean, yes, they don't have to return to crime, but the vast majority of them are back in prison without.
Rosanna Arquette
Because they have a roof over there. Sometimes some people, like, are scared to be out in the world. It's scary. You know, we even saw that, even that Shawshank, you know, like, you know, the people that, like, at the end. Like, it was.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
In a movie to see that.
Ted Danson
And a lot of people want revenge.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah.
Ted Danson
You know, well, that ends up costing you more.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah.
Ted Danson
You know, as a society, it's stupid on every level and not good for our, you know, the heart of this country.
Rosanna Arquette
Anyway, let's heal the heart of this country.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
Amen.
Ted Danson
And what else are you going to do? Why not? You know, that's the other thing that I comfort myself with, the phrase dead and then you die. So what are you doing? Don't be depressed. Don't be angry and furious. Just do the best you can to make things a little bit better every day and watch the Good Place. Because that was the message of the Good Place.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. That's.
Ted Danson
Me too. Black Lives Matter. It was such a. You know, even if you go, well, I've never done that, or I'm not a racist. You had to look. I did. I had to look at. Oh, my intention.
Rosanna Arquette
Our white fragility.
Ted Danson
Yeah, Well, I don't. I'm all right. I don't need to be white. Fragile, but so entitled title. So entitled that we don't even know entitlement, you know?
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah.
Ted Danson
That I go, wait, what? Really? Oh, no. Or that. No, my intention was so clear that I was trying to make this person laugh. So what do I really know? That she's laughing because it was funny and it tickled her or is she laughing because she felt she had. Or whatever. You just do not know. So that was a big thing to learn for me. And, you know, I'm not a racist, but. Yeah, we're quite privileged.
Rosanna Arquette
We come from it.
Ted Danson
Yes. And you have. You provide the foundation for looking the other way or something. You know, there's, I think, a really. And here we are and all of that. But it is. I think there was steps taken forward and then some big ones back.
Rosanna Arquette
But anyway, you were all on the streets for that. And it was a huge, huge movement. And seeing George Floyd murdered. Thank God for she was 17. What is her. Beautiful. Her name. But she filmed it. That footage put him in jail that we had that she had to go underground, you know.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
And Minnesota. In Minnesota.
Ted Danson
Hey, you know, it's like it's. It's all. Being human is hard. It's hard. Life is hard. All of these things. But our job in life. The reason why you're here, I think, is to grow, to learn to know who you really, really, really are. And you turn the other way and have a blind eye and, you know, you think, I will sometimes tell Mary my defense over little things. You know, I wasn't aware it was something, you know, it was something that makes me look good in the fact that I had done something that wasn't. Didn't have a good effect.
Rosanna Arquette
Right, right, right.
Ted Danson
You know, we. It's good for all of us to grow up and go, yeah, I did that. That was mean on my part and I apologize. Oh, I am capable of being mean.
Rosanna Arquette
I think my hope that we're doing that in my family because we got a lot of turning the other way or like having hidden resentments and not speaking for a little while. Like we like coming from a big family like that. And there would be moments like that. And now it's really important especially to not always be right or have to defend myself in something that. Which I can be really super defensive, but I. But that's not what. But I didn't mean it like that, you know, like that and then feel very attached, you know, and I can just hear how it impacted them, my response impacted them and not have it be about me. It's about. It did impact them. I need to hear that and like not do it like that. And then. And also apologize like, okay, I'm really sorry.
Ted Danson
And you know, but that takes a lot of self confidence. That takes a lot of self awareness. And I mean, you can sit there and look at some part of the country that I certainly disagree with, but whatever. But you'd have to be able to go, yeah, that was wrong. It doesn't mean I'm a bad person. It just means that was wrong and I need to see it. And there's a reason for me to direct reason to apologize. I need to do all those things. And it's so fucking liberating But. And I can look at myself when I do this. The only time I get furious at Mary is when she's right. Seriously, if she says you did. Da, da da da. I don't want to be. Da da da da. I don't want to be that person, that man who does that. So, no. Until I go, ah, shoot. Yes, I am that person too, who can be mean.
Rosanna Arquette
But that's why you're still together and that's why she loves you, because you're willing to look at yourself and heal and grow from it. I don't know.
Ted Danson
After a bit of a tussle. But yes.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah. But that's marriage. And that's also. But you're committed in the partnership of working through that stuff. Like you're not. Nobody's walking on the drill.
Ted Danson
But don't you think that's the same thing that needs to somehow be able to take place in this country because you have. We can be so snotty.
Rosanna Arquette
Yes. Oh, what you mean the left?
Ted Danson
The left can be so condescending, you know. Oh, you don't know what you're talking about. You. Da da da da da da. I am. I'm that way.
Rosanna Arquette
I am too. Jane is, I think, the person who has been able to, like, we're going to have to have a big tent. She's the person that has opened my eyes to. We do need to listen to now. I personally, you know, not going to dine with a Nazi. I'm not. I mean, that's a boundary.
Ted Danson
Terrible mood. But go on. Yeah, sorry. Really stupid. Go on, please.
Rosanna Arquette
I'm not. I'm not crossing the boundaries of like the Ku Klux Klan pals, you know, like, who are hanging people more than ever now. And. And I'm that. That for me. No, I don't need to understand just because hate is hate and. And bigotry and racism for me is so evil.
Ted Danson
100%. You need to be real.
Rosanna Arquette
But the. But would I. When, for instance, I didn't agree with a lot of her policies. But when Liz Cheney did the right thing for the January 6th committee. I honor the people that believe in democracy. I don't know if we would have been here if John McCain was still around in the Senate, you know, like, I mean, here. I mean, you know, interesting. The guys who got brain cancer in this time, you know, like taken out and it was like, did they do that to them? Like, my brain goes like, what happened? You know?
Ted Danson
Yeah, I can't remember. But yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
And to be able to sit down with someone who was a Republican at the time. I could have a conversation and not agree, but not this.
Ted Danson
My daddy was a Republican back when it meant something. And you were a very strong environmentalist.
Rosanna Arquette
Yes.
Ted Danson
Republicans invented that. Really? Or, you know, wow. Did a lot of work. And the most condescending part of my father towards my mother, the liberal Democrat, was, you don't really understand money. That was the worst. You know, that was the argument. Physical, you know.
Rosanna Arquette
Where were you raised?
Ted Danson
Arizona. Flagstaff, mostly.
Rosanna Arquette
Oh, wow.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
Well, I want to thank you also for Oceana and the work that you've done to help our oceans, which I've been. You know, you've really made a real impact. Oceana has.
Ted Danson
Yeah, Oceana really has. And we. We're up against that again, by the way, in California with the offshore oil drill.
Rosanna Arquette
No, he's. There's a. Yeah.
Ted Danson
So we need to all be very vocal and get out there, because no one, Republicans and business owners, people who have a stake about the coast and tourism and all of that, do not want offshore oil drilling. It's very punitive at the moment, but. So we need to get out there and share how much we love our state, and we don't want that.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah. I'm not here anymore. Like, I got really sad when I had to. I moved to another state. I don't even want to say, but I'm in New England, and. And I. I really. I cried when I said, well, why do I. Because I have my business manager here. My doctors are here, so I'm here a lot. But I was like, I don't want to give up my California driver's license. Can I keep my California driver? And I couldn't. They. I did.
Ted Danson
I wasn't able to.
Rosanna Arquette
And I had to get rid of it. And I was really sad about it. I said, wow, I'm really gone from California. And this was. You know, the Joni Mitchell California song is going through my head. And I. I was. And this. Just. This trip was like, I miss it, and there's so many wonderful people here.
Ted Danson
And how about Joni Mitchell?
Rosanna Arquette
Right? Yeah, I know Joni. She. I know her for many, many years. And, I mean, she was meant to live. She, like, found her three days later after this aneurysm in her bathroom. And it was. You know.
Ted Danson
But here she is singing.
Rosanna Arquette
She's still singing. Well, she's. And everybody loves her, so supporting her in her art, in whatever way it comes out in the world now is so healing for her.
Ted Danson
Check out mother.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, I love it.
Ted Danson
Check it out.
Rosanna Arquette
I love this.
Ted Danson
It's a really wonderful thing. And you should. When there's something around here or your neck of the woods.
Rosanna Arquette
And I love that they're helping young musicians to be able to do their art.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
I love anybody who's able to do their art and needs to, because when it's in you and you must create and you must make music or must paint or must write and that to be taken away. Like the documentary that I made, Searching for Debbie Winger, opens with the movie the Red Shoes. It was a very expensive clip, but I did know Michael Powell was married to Thelma Schumacher, who is Martin Scorsese's editor. And so that was a really important clip for me. I wanted to open the movie because she has to choose between her life and her art. You know, either dance or her love, but she couldn't have both. She dances herself in front of a train. So that's always been the theory and the theme in my life where I have these men, most of them, not all, but that were, like, really threatened or jealous of what I did. And so, you know, I'd either shrink myself or build them up or, like, not be able to really focus on me. And this past four years has been great because I have been alone and haven't even dated and, like, been celibate. I know. I. Okay. And it's weird, but. But powerful.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
You know, very. Yeah.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
And good. And I was able to look at my shit in this time, like, oh, I do. I am overactive. I am so defensive. I am judgmental. You know, these things that I thought I wasn't. Like, I'm. I'm not. But I was doing these things. So by being alone and not having anybody pointed out also in a way where I could actually see it for myself and blame anybody for judging me, you know, Like, I ended up healing a lot of it, working on it till the end of my life, of course, but. But much better, I think. And then I will be, you know, if I did ever have a relationship again, with the fact that I'm even saying that, because I was like, I'm done, man. I am done. All the best women I know, except your wife, like, are done. They just don't want to. They don't care.
Ted Danson
That's what she said, by the way. Literally right before we met, she said, I know I look like I'm the kind of person who'd be good at relationship. I'm not. And I was saying I could fuck up anyway. And then we met. Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
That's so nice.
Ted Danson
It makes me so romantic.
Rosanna Arquette
And I will. That I will. Everybody is. You know, that would be great, like, if I had that kind of.
Ted Danson
Yeah. But it's also what we wanted and needed in life, you know, to grow
Rosanna Arquette
as human beings individually and together.
Ted Danson
A lot of people can grow on their own.
Rosanna Arquette
When she goes away, you can miss her and. But you're excited that she's doing her thing and you don't feel threatened by it.
Ted Danson
Yes. And the world gets very gray and bland and. And I think, why am I so depressed? And then I go, I'm not depressed. It's just the difference between my endorphin level when she's around and when she's not is so dramatic. I feel like I'm. Until I finally snap out of it and then I party. I just party down.
Rosanna Arquette
What's the longest you're away from each other?
Ted Danson
We had a two week rule where it's two nights. It's like.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah. Do you go and does she like to have. Need her own space to create so that she's like. She's in Nashville doing her thing. Do you ever go to Nashville and.
Ted Danson
Yes.
Rosanna Arquette
Oh, so you do. Okay. David, my brother David here, she used
Ted Danson
to frame me out of the picture because I'm tied to her hip, but I get to be in all her movies. They just frame.
Rosanna Arquette
Oh, that's. Aww.
Ted Danson
Here's my favorite thing that Mary's ever said to me that I don't know. A minute ago it came up. Now it's not appropriate to anything we're talking about, but I love it. And it's when we both knew, oh, this is going to work out. Because it was very early, pre engagement even, and we were dancing at some. I don't know what. And I was really in good form. I was dancing better than I've ever danced and just quite taken by myself. And she kind of danced up closer to me and whispered into my ear, pay attention to your fucking partner. And it's our mantra in life. It has become our mantra, you know, Pay attention to your fucking partner. It's an acting.
Rosanna Arquette
And in that. Yes.
Ted Danson
It's Sandy Meisner listening. Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
So when she said that to you, did you have any defense or did you got it immediately?
Ted Danson
No, no defense. It was so wonderfully startling and true.
Rosanna Arquette
And you.
Ted Danson
Yeah, we both, in the middle of the dance floor just hit howling with laughter. And it was like, oh, this'll work.
Rosanna Arquette
I got chills. My hair's going like this. Yeah, that's. And that's it.
Ted Danson
I need to be reminded all the time. But it's a great phrase. Pay attention to your fucking. You have to say it sweetly and with love.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah. Yeah.
Ted Danson
Yes.
Rosanna Arquette
That's great. That's great. Well, you very. Give her my love.
Ted Danson
I will.
Rosanna Arquette
I want to hear the song she writes when she's away.
Ted Danson
I will. Hey, have you. You know she won a critics choice award for something she co wrote?
Rosanna Arquette
No. What?
Ted Danson
Did you ever see Wild Rose? Jessie Buckley. It's in a beautiful film. An English film.
Rosanna Arquette
No, but I want to immediately because I do love her.
Ted Danson
Oh, she's amazing. Check it out. But her character at the end, she's a singer who wants to break into Nashville and comes home and realizes home is where she needs to be. Kind of story. And the last song that she's singing in Glasgow is. Yeah. Mary and her co writers.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, she wrote it with Jesse.
Ted Danson
No.
Rosanna Arquette
Okay.
Ted Danson
She. She. Two or three. I think people in Nashville have credits for it.
Rosanna Arquette
But Mary, that's wonderful.
Ted Danson
And this is me just paying attention to my partner here. And she won. Tied. They did. They tied with Elton John.
Rosanna Arquette
That's fantastic.
Ted Danson
Which is so much better than winning it outright because now their name is Next.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah. That's so great. That's so great. Congratulations. Oh, I definitely want to see that. I do love Jesse Buckley.
Ted Danson
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Rosanna Arquette
And you have a show with your. What's the new show with.
Ted Danson
With Mary Inside. And we just got picked up yesterday.
Rosanna Arquette
I haven't seen it yet. Is it. Is it already on the air and everything? I'm so bad with the tv.
Ted Danson
It's fine, it's.
Rosanna Arquette
I just watched Criterion channel, but I did see Pluribus but like I don't really watch a lot, so what channel? So let me tell here.
Ted Danson
Criterion or. Hi, yours.
Rosanna Arquette
Yours.
Ted Danson
It's Netflix.
Rosanna Arquette
It's a. Oh, is your Netflix. Okay, great. Okay.
Ted Danson
And we've had two seasons and we just got picked up for the third and Mary was in.
Rosanna Arquette
No.
Ted Danson
Why? What? No.
Rosanna Arquette
Oh my God.
Ted Danson
When I'm on your podcast, they'll start.
Rosanna Arquette
No, no, no. But so, okay, so this is the third season and Mary is going to be on this new season.
Ted Danson
Well, I can't say.
Rosanna Arquette
Oh, okay.
Ted Danson
But she was on the second one.
Rosanna Arquette
Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Great.
Ted Danson
Yeah.
Rosanna Arquette
Okay. Exciting. That's neat. I love it.
Ted Danson
Me too. What else is going on? You want to talk about anything? Oh, I had so much fun. So it's.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, this has been really fun. I'm just. I believe in gratitude. I'm just staying grateful. Even in days of when it sucks. Just to simple. It's snowing out there, you know, where I am so high, but I have heat, I have food. I like. So many people are not okay right now. And there are so many scared people. I mean, do you know V. Eve Ensler? Do you know Eve Ensler? V?
Ted Danson
No, I don't.
Rosanna Arquette
Oh my God. This is somebody she bring on your show. She's very, very close friend of Jane. She wrote the Vagina Monologues.
Ted Danson
Oh, sorry.
Rosanna Arquette
And she has an incredible playwright, but she's also done this play called this is Crazy about Mental Health. It's so incredible. And then a night of it. Jane did me and Mark Ruffalo and really wonderful actors and we did a reading of it. But she's somebody really worth.
Ted Danson
I would love to.
Rosanna Arquette
She's powerhouse. But she was telling Me. There are so many families that are afraid to venture out because of ice. So they're starving and they're, like, in the homes. And so there's. We have to help them. This is terrible.
Ted Danson
And people are.
Rosanna Arquette
Huh? Yes, there are people. So many people. That's what we're seeing, which is needed to happen. I mean, we say this out loud, but you just like, did it have to take two white people getting shot for people to kind of wake up? I mean, it's like, where it's like,
Ted Danson
oh, whoa, oh, oh, oh.
Rosanna Arquette
You know, like, suddenly it was like, no, this happens every day, folks. But everywhere they happen to be white. And now people are waking up to it, that nobody's safe. And this is like, we need, like. But that's. That's the sad part of it. Like, this happens every day in community. You know, people are being shot and disappeared. And I'm just so brokenhearted about it. I can feel it. You know, if you're an empath, which I. We clearly like, all the people that I know that are artists, that are actors that are doing this, we kind of have to have. Be some sort of empathy to, I think, be an actor.
Ted Danson
Sure.
Rosanna Arquette
I mean, maybe, I don't know, you
Ted Danson
have to be able to put yourself in other people's skin.
Rosanna Arquette
In other people's skin and be that person, you know, and without judgment. Yes. And the world is, you know, I just want the energy of love. Like, they strive for that gratitude, love, like, all this kindness and, you know, it's the. Love thy neighbor. All these Christians. What do you have? Do you read the Bible?
Ted Danson
Amen. Yeah. We're going to make it.
Rosanna Arquette
We are. We shall overcome.
Ted Danson
Yeah. And then we die. And then we die, which is not a bad thing. You know, It's. It's.
Rosanna Arquette
But maybe we. Maybe, you know, by this level of life that we're doing, you know. You know, who knows? Who knows?
Ted Danson
You know my other word besides gratitude, which saved me last 10 years, I think the word gratitude has really been very helpful to me. Curiosity is my new favorite word. Talking about brain health, you know, Stay curious, dad. Stay curious.
Rosanna Arquette
Yes, Wordle.
Ted Danson
I'll tell you my starting word. No, Mary's and my starting. Do you have one that you pick every time with Wordle. What do you do? Wordle?
Rosanna Arquette
I do. I haven't done it in a long time. I was really.
Ted Danson
I can't even talk anymore.
Rosanna Arquette
I know. I'm sorry. I was doing it a lot. I was doing it a lot and then kind of fell off the wagon. Of the wordle. But I'll get back on there because it's important. It's really important. And then you can understand.
Ted Danson
It's the basis of our relationship.
Rosanna Arquette
Do you compete?
Ted Danson
No, we cheat. We do it together.
Rosanna Arquette
Oh, that's so good. That's so funny. That's wonderful.
Ted Danson
Aw. How long are you here?
Rosanna Arquette
Curiosity in reading about a lot of. I'm here. I leave tomorrow early. Early Am going back. Yeah. To. I had a. This movie I'm in called the haven't talked about but that's moment. Sorry.
Ted Danson
That's a. I don't need to freeze.
Rosanna Arquette
I actually don't need.
Ted Danson
No, we do with.
Rosanna Arquette
Do I. They didn't even invite me to the LA premiere, so.
Ted Danson
No, but there's a. I'm not bitter. Have you. Let's end on bitter. No, no, no, no.
Rosanna Arquette
It was an oversight.
Ted Danson
Have you seen.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah, yeah. It was just. It was fun. It's. It's fun. It's fun. It's like, it's very well done.
Ted Danson
Not to worry. We'll cut this part.
Rosanna Arquette
I mean, you know, I was just like, she has a huge audience of people that really love her. And so. And it was really fun at Sundance, which was just the weekend last weekend and had a great time. And then the snowstorm happened. We're supposed to have a big premiere in New York, but that didn't happen because of the snowstorm. And then I guess something happened here. And I kept saying, something happened in la. Every went to la is everything happened in la. And then my daughter calls me. She goes, mom, why weren't you at the premiere of the thing in la? It was like nobody invited me. You know, it's like. And that was a great lesson because I. In four years ago, or even a couple years ago, even a year ago, I. I probably would. I found myself like. Like they can't stand me. Somebody like, sabotaged me. Like, I went to this moment and I did it literally maybe 10 minutes. And then now it's funny and now I'm okay. And it's like, it's okay. And it's like, I'm not. It's young. It's all the young people and I'm the old lady in it, so it's okay. But I think it's the algorithm. And I did say, you know, I got a phone call from the A24. I said, you know, I'm not. You know, it's like we're surrounded by the 15 minute of fame. People like that Andy Warhol said in 15 minutes, like, you know, we, like, I don't know. I've been in this business 47 years. You've been in this business for how many years? Like, we're many years. And there's kind of not really in this the way the business is, a respect for that. And then you think, well, am I an asshole for even wanting that kind of respect? Like, does it matter? Does it really matter? I'm in a movie. It's making money. Nice. God bless you. Thanks for asking me to be in it. And I'm grateful.
Ted Danson
I figure I'm going to work because they need older people to stand next to the younger people to make the younger people more visibly obviously younger.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah.
Ted Danson
And they need silly, very silly white men, especially silly white older men who still think they're in the game. That's funny. So I got jobs.
Rosanna Arquette
But you are. And you're lucky that you are.
Ted Danson
I adore you. Go across the room at any party and feel like I have the right to now talk to you.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah. Bring Mary.
Ted Danson
But you are, you know, you are. You're an incredibly talented actress.
Rosanna Arquette
Thank you.
Ted Danson
And you're very wise.
Rosanna Arquette
Thank you.
Ted Danson
And you're like a stateswoman who has been around long enough and doing actively good things for the world. I love watching women who I consider some of my heroes flock to you. You're very cool, Rosanna.
Rosanna Arquette
Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm very honored to be here and thank you for having me.
Ted Danson
And, you know, travel safely.
Rosanna Arquette
Yeah. Bye.
Ted Danson
Oh, that was great. I love talking to Rosanna. Please catch her in the moment. And that's it for this week. Special thanks to our friends at Team Coco. As always, subscribe on your favorite podcast app and leave a great review on Apple Podcasts if you like. And just so you know, you can always watch these episodes on YouTube. Visit YouTube.comteamcoco See you next time. Where everybody knows your name.
Rosanna Arquette
You've been listening to where everybody knows your name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson Sometimes. The show is produced by me, Nick Leow. Our executive producers are Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross and myself. Sarah Fedorovich is our supervising producer. Engineering and mixing by Joanna Samuel with
Ted Danson
support from Eduardo Perez. Research by Alyssa Grohl. Talent booking by Paula Davis and Janet Boutique.
Rosanna Arquette
Our theme music is by Woody Harrelson, Anthony Gend, Mary Steenbergen and John Osborne.
Ted Danson
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Hosts: Ted Danson (Woody Harrelson absent)
Guest: Rosanna Arquette
Date: March 18, 2026
Podcast Network: Team Coco
Episode Length: ~84 minutes (content starts at 01:33)
This episode brings actress and activist Rosanna Arquette to the table with Ted Danson for a deeply personal, meandering, and insightful conversation exploring family, activism, healing, generational trauma, the challenges of being an artist and parent, #MeToo, social media, aging, resilience, and hope. The dialogue is candid, often emotional, frequently humorous, and filled with stories of both heartbreak and inspiration.
“LA is too hard for my soul. Like Woody.” (09:07, Rosanna Arquette)
“We had Ramadan, we had Christmas, we had Hanukkah... I honored them all... I just believe, you know, God is love.” (09:59)
“He just looked at me, he goes, ‘What’s your name?’ … ‘Somebody put a shirt on the little girl.’” (15:31, Rosanna/about MLK)
“She worked through years and years… became a therapist for abused people—women, especially. …Got her license the week she died.” (18:04, Rosanna)
“Instead of telling my daughter all the myriad of things that she was doing that was right, I picked down the one thing my eye went to that wasn’t quite right and told her.”
(19:29, Ted Danson)
“I was one of the people that came out against Harvey Weinstein. We put him in jail… and that was a huge impact.” (07:32)
“The anxiety that went through my body was so intense. …Am I ever going to have a career?” (25:36)
“My kingdom for a television series in Los Angeles would have been amazing. …But it just never happened.” (28:49, Rosanna)
“I have to hold on to that hope. And I know Jane (Fonda) has that … they want us to be scared.” (35:54, Rosanna)
“The train is… this is the direction the world is going, obviously. …I probably think I can't.” (31:57, Ted)
“It seems like it’s listening to you and I literally go, ‘You Nazis!’” (31:59)
“Keep your laughter going, keep your joy, keep your hopefulness… it feels better in your body.” (38:11, Ted Danson)
“I’m not crossing the boundaries …but would I, for instance, with Liz Cheney… I honor the people that believe in democracy.” (61:23, Rosanna)
“Pay attention to your fucking partner!” (69:31)
A mantra for life, onstage and off.
“Curiosity is my new favorite word… Stay curious.” (78:05, Ted)
On Speaking Out:
On Family Trauma and Healing:
On Community:
On Parenting and Self-Correction:
On Technology:
On Redemption:
On Hope:
On Relationships:
Listen for…
Stories of growing up at protest marches; reflections on the complex legacy of Hollywood’s #MeToo reckoning; honest discussions about personal failure and redemption; and how hope, creativity, and loving community help us “overcome.”