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From the Vault - Grainne Mhaoil the Irish Pirate Queen
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Katy Charlwood
Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to who did what Now? The history podcast. That's not your history class with me, your host, Katy Charlwood, history harlot and reader of books. And welcome to another from the Vault episode. Going all the way back to my favourite, my favourite pirate in all of history, Granya Wheel, the Irish Pirate Queen. Now, when I first recorded this episode, this specific one, it was in retaliation to another podcast that asked me to do the intro to their Granja o' Malley episode. Except they kept calling her Grace, which, if you don't know, is not her name, was never her name. And it's.
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It's not. It's not her name there.
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It's not the Anglicized version. It's nothing. It's what some dude several hundred years after her death decided was a better name for her. So, no, no, it's a colloquial lightwashing of Irish history. So. Grogne. Grogne. If you can say yon, you can say Gron. Gronja. You can say Granya.
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Both are acceptable.
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We don't care. So as long as you try, I think is the sort of way of it, if you give it a good go. And the original intro to this episode was nearly 12 minutes long. And it was me ranting about colonialism and the. The theft of names and culture and identity and putting it through a colonial lens to make it more palatable for. For colonial masses. And the ignorance that comes along with that. And the willful ignorance that comes along with that. So it was a very long rant and I decided to cut most of that from this. Now, this is a From the Vault episode, so it is a bit older. It's when my, you know, equipment wasn't as good. So you're gonna hear a lot of. Right, you're gonna hear audible noises of breath and things. So sorry about that. I have improved over the years, but this, this was a while ago and we're talking a whole month of pirates, piracy, the whole shebang. Because I want to talk about something interesting and fun this month because I can do what I want to, because it's my own damn podcast. And this episode was going to come later in the month, but I'm behind on recording because I had a very, very sick boy this week who was very unhappy when I kept telling him that all roads lead to dysentery. So he was not well. And he was like, don't make me worse. But yes, I had a very unwell child and I had to go on full mum duty and deal with that. So anywho, without further ado, I'm gonna.
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Quit your jibber jabber and fact you.
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Enjoy craw on your wheel. The Irish pirate queen from the Vault.
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I mean, what is the point of having a history podcast if you're just gonna shove two fingers up at a historical fact? End of the day, history should be provided by those who want to tell the truth, not just the colonized version of it. So if you're Irish or Irish American or Irish Canadian or Irish Mexican, I don't know, Australian, whatever, or maybe you just care about cultural identity. Maybe you just care about culture. Maybe you just hate colonialism. Right? I genuinely imploring you to support this episode. I. I don't have any other way to say it that I. I think she deserves her fucking name. I swore. I'm sorry, but just means so much to me. Like, if you were listening to this, if you're my follower, if you're a fan, if you care about women or women's history or anything of it sheer, like, comment Rate and review five stars. Just go hell for leather for me, because I want to prove to these people. I want to prove to everybody who feels like she doesn't deserve her name because something else is easier for them. I want to show them that her having her name matters. Like she deserves it. It's her name. And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, quit your jibber jabber and fact me. In fact you. I will. But first we've got to get our source on. Our sources are Grona o', Malley, the Irish Pirate Queen by Anne Chambers, Gronya Weel the Pirate Queen by Patrick Flanney, Gronnia Whale, the Pirate Queen by John and Fatty Burke and Gronier Whale, the Irish Pirate Queen by Hooded Wardenow Podcast. Obviously, we have history.combiography.com, all of the good ones. And now after the longest intro I think I have ever recorded, I use it uncomfortably. Good. Then let's begin. Our story starts in Ireland, which has been consistently raided and attacked and pillaged. Not entirely sure what pillage is. Something to do with hay. Yes, I did take that joke from a Tommy Tiernan show, like 20 years ago. Cheers, Tommy Love doing Derry Girls. So, yeah, back in the day, in the 1500s, you know, England had kind of a rule over Ireland, kinda. So like the Normans came in and they were like the 13th century. And the thing about the Normans is, like the Vikings and the Normans and like a bunch of like the people who settled, you know, they just kind of fell into Brehon law. Brehen law is like one of the oldest, like, law systems, I think, in Europe. I'm not entirely sure. It's a little before my knowledge base. And brehon law had like, wonderful things because, like, it's this whole concept of how people think Ireland is very homogenous, but it's not. It's always been very like, like it welcomed foreigners. And I think the anarchist leak did it pretty well when he was saying that there was basically three rules. Either you come in and you accept the laws and the rules of, of Bren Law and Irish culture and whatnot. And that's good. Or you accept it and you leave, or you don't accept it and stay. And then we fight, you know, that's basically it. And the Norse Gaels and the Normans and all that, they would start intermarrying with, you know, families of Gaelic chieftains. Like, they would intermarry because, you know, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. And a Lot of the time they would just adopt culture and the way things worked because it was easier, you know, once they had settled. Which is kind of funny when you think about it, because the rights that like Norse women had and the rights that Irish women had under Britain law, very similar. Like they had, like life was pretty good for them, you know what I mean? Compared to like other places in Europe. But yeah, so there's raids and invasions and stuff. And then England basically has control around the pale by the time Henry VIII is crowned King of Ireland. Because of course he is. Of course he is, because he has to grab another territory. Especially when he loses Calais to the French king because he's constantly in a dick measuring contest with him. But that's neither here nor there. So when Edward takes the throne, right, he doesn't really do much. Not really. But when Mary I is crowned Queen of England, she decides she's gonna like take over. She's gonna do the plantations in Ireland and so she sends people out to, well, Kings county and Queen's county, which is awfully in Leash. Leash and awfully. But yeah, and they take over like existing forts that the Normans had built like for yonks ago. And they do that. And I think I covered this in the Queen Mary, the first podcast episode that like, because they weren't allowed to like hire Irish people or like fraternize with them and because they had to basically protect themselves, they didn't really gain anything because they were constantly being raided by clans and whatnot. So they were just, they were. It just failed miserably. By the time Elizabeth gets on the throne, she just starts planting them all through Connacht. She's like, I'm putting them in there. Yes, absolutely fantastic. Yeah. And when James takes. It's just the plantation of Ulster. It's. It just gets worse the further you go, you know. But yeah, rollback Henry viii. He's still married to Catherine of Aragon, but he is chasing Anne Boleyn. It's about 1530.ish. Because it's a woman from history. Why would we have a date of birth? Why would we have anything exact. Course we don't. We don't. Meh. No. So yeah, about 1530, Kronya O' Malley is born. And she is born into the infamous o' Malley clan. Now they are a sea faring clan. I bloody love pirates. I do. I love pirates. I love buccaneers and privateers and everything in between. I love them. And so the Omalleys are this seafaring clan on the west coast of Ireland and They rule over the baronies of Murrisk and Borstock and all the land around Clew Bay. Like, although Mayo. They're in Mayo. And these lands, they're basically known as, you know, like, part of the kingdom of Ireland. So they don't accept English rule. They don't accept that. Henry, King of England, Lord of Ireland. Eh? Eh? No, you're not. No, thanks. They just don't accept that. And this is an Anglo Norman area, which is another story for another day. But it was completely Gaelicized by the time Groge comes along. So by the time she's born, it is Irish speaking, it is Irish cultured, it is Irish. Like, that's it. Granya's dad, Owen Dudarra Omalley, he was like the head of the clan, the dynasty, all that shebang in Gronya. She ends up being the only child between Owen and his wife Maeve. She does have a half brother, Donal, but if there was such a thing of, like, the heir, the next in line, it was her. So, like in Ireland, titles and. And being in charge, being the ruler, being the head, right, Being the chief, whatever, it wasn't really a hereditary thing. You didn't just, like, get it given to you. Like, you weren't born with a title, you didn't just gain it, you know. Well, you could have been born with a title, but you wouldn't automatically be the next ruler because it didn't work like that. Like, rulers, chieftains, they would be voted in. So it was more of a best man for the job sort of thing, as opposed to fealty, being sworn to the testicles, like, a lot of the time. That's how hereditary ruling works. You're basically just swearing allegiance to sperm. So, like in Ireland, you wouldn't automatically become chief if your dad was chief, you know what I mean? You'd still own what you owned. You'd still have all your shit, but you wouldn't be the big boss. Yeah, The Omalis are a seafaring clan and they have all these castles, like, dotted along the shoreline. And they would also, like, very cleverly. It's really smart, right? They would tax fishermen as well. So they'd have this very good defensive area. And then they would also tax people to, like, fish in their lovely, fertile waters. It's bloody genius. So, like, they also, in addition, furthermore, offered safe passage through those dangerous waters around the bay, you know, so, like, they were constantly finding ways to make money and they would trade goods, you know, abroad. Like, they were very into trade as well, it wasn't just, you know, steal shit from people. Many fingers, many pies. And so, like, they traded goods as far as Spain. And, of course, I mean, they did steal some stuff, right. There was a bit of piracy, obviously. And, yeah, when ships would be headed into Galway, they'd raid them because they could. Now, they were so good at this, they became infamous. And as such, the o' Malley clan is basically banned from Galway and which then is like an auroboros. It's a snake eating its own tail. It kind of leads into itself. So because, you know, they're banned from Galway, they're like, right, okay, we're gonna just attack all the ships going into Galway and pilfer all their stuff. Pilfer and pillage. Let's take it. It's fine. No worries. So they had all that. All of that income, but, you know, it's not steady. Sometimes you don't know if there's gonna be people traveling with trade goods, you know, and money, other stuff. And so on the back burner, they also had farmland, which they used because obviously they needed, like, wool for cloth and meat. I don't. Not wool for meat, but, like, sheep. They probably eat them, I would assume. I feel like they would, like. They would be useful. They want to make sure utilizing all the animal. Right. So they did have farmland. They did have all this other stuff, but they were really into, like, seafaring. Like, they liked the sea. So growing up, Granya would have sort of known this. She would have gone out in the ship with her dad, and she would have been involved. Right. And growing up, she probably would have spent a lot of time at Clare island in Clew Bay. But there is always the possibility. It's quite likely that she was fostered out at some point to another family. And it was, like, really common at the time. And because it was, you know, it was twofold. Right. So first things first, you would be protecting your heirs because they're away and they're being, like, taken care of, especially if you're out, like, raiding and pirating and whatnot. And the second thing is, it was a really good way to create and or maintain a political alliance, which, as I'm sure you know, is the way a lot of marriages happened way back in the day, especially with people of power, you know. And when Granya, she's a kid or so the legend goes, she says she asks her dad if she can go out sailing, if she can join him, and he says to her, like, no, you can't. Like, your Long, lovely hair. You know those locks, they're gonna get caught in the ship's ropes. Now, here's the thing. Kids in general, they are unintentionally cunning, and kid logic is. It is a power to behold, really. And a lot of the time for them, it is very much what is the quickest and simplest solution to this problem? What is the issue? How do I resolve it unto a child to groan? Yeah. Problem. Hair too long. Solution, make hair short. Because that's the typical kid solution, isn't it? Hair too long. Make hair short. Mm. And, like, I can just imagine Granya, like, lobbing her hair off in, like, the Mulan cartoon style. Just like, whoa. Like, off. I mean, you know, I'd like to think it was, like, a smooth thing, but it could have been, like, put it down. Chopped with an axe or sawing through it with, like, the first knife she finds. Like, did they have scissors in the 1500s? Like, I'm gonna have to look that up because I'm suddenly confused by myself. No, you know, what shears existed from, like, the year, like, 3 or 4000 CE. So you know what? She probably just cut them with, like, ye old sizzles or like. So I mean, maybe she did saw it away with, like, an old knife, you know, Maybe. But, yeah, this is basically where her nickname comes from, Grill, which basically means bald Granya, because wheel means bald, right? Granya. Whale. Bald Granja, because she chopped off a massive chunk of her hair because she was like, I'm going on that bloody ship. Like, I'm getting there. You know what I mean? Because she wanted to get on that damn ship. She does this to get on the ship. And I could only imagine the dad just being like, oh, for f sake. Like, how did I get myself in this mess? Like, yeah, don't mess with Ked logic. They won't come for you. Like, you ever tell a kid you're gonna go do something they will always remember?
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Always.
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So as Granja gets older, anyway, she starts learning the ropes. She's learning the ropes because she's hoisting the sails and. Never mind. It's fine. It's not. So, yeah, she learns everything. She's on the ship, she's learning to sail, she's learning to lead. But because Obviously she's Owen OMalley's daughter, right, she needs to be protected. Like, that's the whole thing. So she basically gets trained. It gets, you know, conditioned into her. Or they try to. They're like, you know, if anything happens, if the shit hits the Fan. You get below deck and you hide. Like, that is her mission, that's her job. Things go bad, you hate, right? You get the heck out of dodge. Unfortunately, Granya wasn't really feeling this safety procedure. You know, she didn't really want to have her tray table up in her seat in the fully upright position. She just wasn't having it because she's out sailing with the family one day with her dad. Anyway, there's this attack, right, and the way below gets blocked, so Granya can't actually do the thing she's supposed to do. And she sees someone, like, just about to get a dad, and she's like, oh, no, fuck this, we're a game of soldiers. And so she jumps on him with a knife she has somehow acquired. I don't judge. Why? Children have knives on pirate ships. I don't judge. And so she jumps on this dude who's about to kill her dad, and she just like stabby, stab, stab, and saves her dad from certain death, really, because he was. He was gonna be a goner if this dude got him, like. But nah, wee Gran, yer going all, well Scarlet on him. Stop. Sigronia didn't just have, like, the seafaring education, she had an actual education. She was really well educated for the time, actually. So she had all of, like, the social and ruling knowledge, you know, she had her place in society and it's generally agreed upon that because of the nature of her way of life and international trade and the like, that she would have learned a bunch of languages, right? So she spoke Scots, Spanish, Irish, Latin. And here's the thing now, I like to think that Gronja could speak English. She just chose not to out of pettiness and spite, because the woman had an ear for languages and she spoke a good few of them. So it would be surprising that she couldn't speak English, although English is like four languages and a trench coat. So maybe she couldn't, or maybe she just deliberately chose not to learn it again, out of spite. And, like, so she's well educated, she's, you know, learned the ways of the world, she's learned the ways of society. But, like, somewhere during her childhood, I think she's like 8 or 10 or something, like, her mum dies, right, and that's one of the reason why she ends up spending so much time with her dad, just because. Yeah, what else is he gonna do? And he very much trains her to be a ruler, you know, like, he gives her all the opportunities. This is. I kind of feel like going nepo. Baby, Nepal nipple baby. But yeah, like, he trains her more than he trains his, like, other son, Donal, you know what I mean? And When Gronya hits 16, like, again, political alliances, it's a whole thing. In 1546, she marries Donal Ohgie O' Flaherty and like, this is this absolutely astounding political match. He was like the Tanishta to the o' Flaherty clan. So the Tonnestje is like second in line. So he's like the right hand man, you know what I mean? So between the two of them and all the stuff they've got going on, they have ridiculous power. And if they're consolidating it, like, this is massive, massive power in the hands of these two people. And, like, for him to marry Granja, there's a dowry, what would say? And the thing about marriages under Brehon law in Ireland was that, you know, everything that the woman has, the dowry and everything else that she has entering the marriage, everything she owns, right? When she leaves that marriage, she takes everything back with her. So she has, like, land and animals and like a bunch of ships. So she has all of this. When she enters this marriage at 16, right, she enters her marriage with her own wealth. She's independently wealthy under Bran law, but also she's able to gain more wealth and property. Like, she's allowed to become wealthier. She is allowed to own things and to gain more money and, you know, stuff. But, like, everything she owns is still hers. Like, it doesn't automatically become his. So if the marriage dissolves, if she leaves the marriage and she can take it with her. Now, as it turns out, Donal, he was neither a great husband nor a great leader. I mean, like, he kind of sucked, to be honest. He has a really quick temper. It's also really bad. It's foul is the word used most often, actually. And he was the man. You know how I said about Henry VIII and the King of France, like, this dude has the same energy. Like, he was constantly, like, getting into skirmishes with neighboring clans. He would just constantly go out and just fight for the bloody sake of it, right? And they're married for what, 18 years and they end up having, like three kids together. So they have Owen, Maeve and Murchie, and Merchy is actually Murcha. Murcha. Remember how I said I say words wrong? I have a feeling I've said Marca's name wrong. Like, I tried to Google it and I tried to ask my friends and none of them were answering. Me, the worst thing is have I probably said it correctly in another one like that, so that would be very embarrassing. So Marca, he's born on a ship.
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Katy Charlwood
Yeah, yeah, Marika. Marika. One of them got back to me. Marika. Okay, great. So Marika is born on a ship and over this course of this marriage, like she is, she's doing her bit, she is earning money, she's sailing, she's trading. And Murica gets. He's born in a ship, right? And a few days after giving birth, the ship is attacked and again because she just can't help herself. Instead of hiding like she grabs, she grabs her stuff and she just joins the fight and she wins because of course she does. So yeah, they're married 18 years and during this time she is doing her bit. She is, I mean she is like the better leader out the two and by 1564, like lower ranking sort of members of the Flaherty clan, they want to like expand, right? And so they're like, they want to you know, make it better. They want larger territory and. G'. Day.
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You know, who has time to cry over dead husbands? And again, Granya gets to leave the marriage with everything she entered and everything she gained. So she grabs her gear, her wealth, her livestock and her three ships. That being said, she also brings along 200 fighting men, now vacates Bunowin Castle and goes back to Clew Bay. But, like, let's take this into consideration a wee bit right? She gained the respect and the allegiance of 200 fighting men. 200, like, she would have to be a good leader. She would have had to have earned their respect because they wouldn't have just followed her blindly. Like, and during the time of, like, Donal's death, there were reports in Dublin of ships pirating. And she's like, totally wasn't us. Totally wasn't us. Oh, and by the way, do you want these 200 fighting men, your side, you know, just as a compromise, just to help you, you know. Convenient. But Granya, Granya is one of my favorite vengeful women because, like, her first husband's been killed and she doesn't let it lie. Whether or not, like, she actually cared for him, whom's to say? But when Donal is murdered, when he is slain, she either lays siege or repels a siege. It's kind of fuzzy on that detail. I mean, but it's Granya. So, you know, 50, 50. It's more than a 50, 50 chance. Like, it's. It's more like a 90, 10. She, it was probably her laying siege. That's her. She probably attacked first because. Yeah, so she lays a siege on Cox Castle. I'm not making this up. This isn't a euphemism for something. She raids Cox Castle and she wins and then she names it Hen's Castle in her honor because she's like, just to let you know, you were beaten by a woman in the I now own you, bitch. Like, that's what that's about. So she does that. And off she pops back to Clew Bay, back to Clare island, etc. Back to do her thing. She's women. She has needs. And she briefly takes a lover, as she should, and the lover is supposedly a shipwrecked sailor. He could be. I mean, from where? Whoms to say? But she found him on the beach, like the Prince Eric found Ariel. He's like, yeah, that'll do. She's like, you're fun. You're mine now. So he gets slain by the McMahons of Ballyvey, right? And again, being the calm, collected, reasonable person she is, she seeks vengeance, attacks the McMahans. She goes to the castle of Duna in Black Sword, right? And she just goes in and just gets rid of her lover's killer. Like, he is also slain now. Adios. Which she may have said because she did, in fact, speak Spanish. That's if they even said adios back then. Because, you know, words change over time. So about two years after the death of her first husband, Gronja Remarris, and she marries Richtard Alarossa Burke. And Burke is her second husband, but he's also known as Iron Richard. I mean, it's not the worst nickname I've ever heard. I'm just saying. Mmm. So they have one kid together, and that is cheap bark. And he would end up becoming the first Viscount of Mayo. Now, wait, was he the one that was born at sea? Is Murcha a girl's name? Wait a minute. Maybe it was this one that was born at sea. Oh, my goodness. I don't know which one it was. You know, here I am going on about women and their stories and everything needs to be correct. And I can't remember what child was born at sea. I feel like, mmm, I feel like, yeah, I definitely got it right last time. This is. I mean, you can't shame the shameless, but. Oh, dear. But yeah. So her second husband, Bart, now, this may come as a surprise, but he was also a crappy husband. Like, to the point that when he left, right, to do whatever he did. I don't care about him. Granya basically locks the doors and yells out of a window to Irondick Richard Burke, I dismiss you. And that was that. Because there's this whole thing with Bren Law where you can, like, divorce your husband by a shouting out a window at him. Fucking love it. That's just quality. And, yeah, she gets to keep the castle and she also keeps Irondick as an ally. Like, that's ridiculous. So she stays in the o' Malley Castle in the summer because it's a stronghold, it's strategically like the best place to be. It's right in the center of our sea kingdom and like it is home alone up to the hilt. It has got smoke signals, booby traps, it has like all these different ways of like sending and relaying, like receiving messages. There's a rope that leads from her bed to a ship, like zoom, zoom, zoom. Pretty handy. She also had this thing where the way the castle was built because most people were right handed that when you went up like the stairs of the castle, you would have to fight left handed to make it more awkward. You wouldn't be able to hold the sword in your dominant hand again unless you were a lefty. And like, if you were part of, you know, an oppressive force at that time, chances are you know, the Catholic was gonna smack the leftiness out of you. So. So like during this time she's still known, I think as Lady Burke and Sir Richard Bingham, well, he's been sent to Ireland to like be the right hand of the queen over there and whatnot. And he absolutely despises granja. And in 1576 he writes a letter stating that she was responsible and or involved in every single rebellion against the crown over the last 40 years.
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Katy Charlwood
Because the crown is taking power all over the shop and lo and behold, the RSO Bingham is like, oh yeah, this woman's definitely to blame. And yeah, Granya's no fool. So yeah, when she sees the Lord Deputy, Sir Henry Sydney. She offers her 200 fighting men. She offers her three galleys. She offers it, you know, because he was trying to get everyone to like pay more taxes and people just weren't doing it and they were like rebelling and fighting and stuff. So she offers, you know, help and he's like, haha, lady, no, I'm good. He's like one of the people who called her like granny or Granny, you know what I mean? But yeah, within three weeks, three weeks of this offer to the Lord Deputy, she sets off, she's away to plunder and whatnot. And then she gets capsuled and she's kept for a bit. And then she's sent to Dublin and she's sent in chains. And at this point she's gonna be like, she's 48ish, almost 50. And she is sent there as like this demonstration of lying to the crown. Like, mate, she did offer you help and then she went off pirating because, like, you can't be pirating. And she was like, I'm not pirating. And then she goes off in pirates, you know what I mean? So she gets kept in for like nearly a year and they Release her in 1579 and she gets sent back to Cara Gahooly and she gets besieged. So Captain Marlon, he gets her for her pirating escapades, but this is not Granya's first rodeo. And she scares the bugger off. Then a year later, Iron Dick, he becomes Lord Burke. And because he's still under English, like, consideration, he is still seen as married to Grony. So Grony gets awarded the title of Ladybirk because, yeah, appeasement, that's totally gonna work for her. Mm. Giving her a fancy title. Yeah, but she gets like a new castle, she gets a new title. And they think, you know, this will be enough for her to calm down and not be involved in every single rebellion over the next 40 years. Uh huh. Great, sure. Three years later though. Aww. Unfortunately, Iron Dick, he dies of natural causes. And Gronya, she's been to this before, she knows the whole spiel. So she packs her bag, she grabs her followers, her, you know, 1,000 head of cows, her males and her fighting men, her galleys. And she heads back to Kara Gahuli. And she's 53, she's independent.
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Why?
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Why would she get involved in anything nefarious? Hmm? Because some people just love the sea, right? They just, they just like it. Because when you're a professional pirate, you don't have to wear a Suit. And yeah, why would she do that? Anyway, 1584 rolls round and Sir John Perrott, he is appointed the Lord Deputy with our dear old friend Richard Bingham as the provincial president of Connacht. And my God, that man hates the Irish and he despises grandeur with a fiery passion. So Perrot, he's trying to catch more flies with honey than vinegar. And Bingham, he very much prefers the stick to the carrot. So the barks, they start rebelling. Bingham, he is unnecessarily cruel. So he sends his brother to go kill Onoflaharti, Gronya's oldest son, right? So Granja invites, you know, Begum's brother in, he offers him hospitality, right, Like Game of Thrones, like the phrase, like you eat in the house, it's a whole thing. So they get in there and Onoflarty, he offers, you know, food, wine, everything, a lovely dinner. And what does he get? Stopped. He gets stabbed. 12 times in fact. And again in a move that should surprise absolutely nobody, Granja decides to join the rebellion in Bingham for his just uncouth act. He gets sent to help the Dutch with their, like a fight against Spain. And while he's away, Gronje sails round to the pale, right, and she asks Peril for a pardon for her and her children for their past offenses. And he's like, absolutely no problem, barely an inconvenience. And yeah, all is well, everything's good. 1588 rolls around and the Spanish Armada is coming in. Unfortunately, the Spanish Armada had to deal with weather, which was the main if it didn't have a storm, if things didn't go badly, English history I think would be very different now. But so Spanish Armada happens, people get washed up on the shore. And as far as we know, Gronjo was involved in saving spaniels cuz one of her made trade routes was Spain, she spoke Spanish and there's a rumor that she like saved a bunch of Spaniards and brought them over to Scotland where they were safe, you know, from Elizabeth, or so they say. But yeah, it's 1588, Perrot is replaced with Fitzwilliams, Bingham returns and just everything up, he's killing, he's laying waste to the land and the people in Fitzwilliam. He tries to rein him in, but does not work. And Bingham gets tried, but you know, again, rich white dude, he gets acquitted. Kill, surprise. And because he's not happy with, you know, the amount of suffering he's already caused, Bingham returns to Connacht and is well, mad. And he is absolutely hell bent on Destroying Grony. And when she is out at sea, destroys her lands at Cargahuly, right? And somehow, someway, he aligns himself with Murica, her son, Murka oflarti. So she is well mad about this. And Granya just like, straight up removes him from her will and she just basically denounces him, you know, removes him from her life, the whole shebang, cuts him out. Oh, yeah, and then she torches all of his shit. Like, she just sets it on fire. And, yeah, all of Gronja's fleet ends up impounded. So by 1592, Cibidge, he is held captive by Bingham. And Gronja is just not happy. She's not in it for this. And she is genuinely worried that her youngest child is going to be executed because he's, like, linked to the rebellion with the Earl of Tyrone. It's a whole thing. And she needs to put a stop to this. Like, the following year, she ends up going all the way to the top. She goes above Bingham's head, she goes straight to the manager and requests an audience with Queen Elizabeth the First. So she shows up in Greenwich Castle, right, to meet Queen Bess, right? She gets frisked and they find a dagger on her. And she's like, protection though, innit? Like, she's like, course, I'm gonna show up with a knife. I am in an enemy's, like, location. It would be stupid for me not to. And they're like, fair enough, but we're still gonna take it from you, you know. And so she sneezes, she's like, her allergies are playing up or whatever hymns to say. And she's given a handkerchief. So she blows her nose and then throws, like, the handkerchief into the fire, like. And the courtiers and everyone you know there. So everyone at court, like, all of the gentry, everyone surrounding everyone, is absolutely appalled at this. They are shocked, they are aghast. And they're like, what is this horrible act that has been committed upon us? And Gronja's like, what? It was dirty. So I got rid of it. Like, I think it's more of a shock value thing. She did it just to go boo at them, you know, she was like, oh, no, I bought my hanky. What you gonna do? Ooo. So she ends up chatting to good Queen Bess, right? She's chatting to Elizabeth. I don't know why I call her good, as if she was. She was an arsehole like everybody else. So they're chatting in Latin because Elizabeth doesn't speak any Irish and Granja apparently speaks no English. And Granja's. I mean, she's far pushing it at this point. You know, she's old. And she says to Elizabeth, you know, listen, I was seafaring, I was buccaneering, I was pillaging and povering and plundering. In other words, beginning with P because we like alliteration here. I did all that because it was out of necessity. I, a poor woman with terrible husbands. Ugh. Am I right? You know, and Bingham has it out for me, and, you know, and I had to do it for my own safety, and I just want to go and live a farmer's life, which would be nice if this dude didn't destroy all my shit, you know, it would be great. That's all I want to do. Unsurprisingly, Bingham is pissed, massively pissed at this information. And so he. He tries to, like, flee, but he gets arrested in England. I mean, it's not too long before he ends up back in Ireland, because, again, rich white dudes, you know, I mean, members of the gentry, things are going to go well for him. He's fine, you know, whatever. So Elizabeth, she believes Granya, and she, you know, says that she will be a loyal subject upon receiving a small pension and other such goods, right? She's like, I have appeased her. In my infinite wisdom, I am correct. And she is, you know, like, it's actually really funny, though, because, like, see, when she met her, she wouldn't curtsy to the Queen because she's like, I am the Queen of Ireland. Why would I curtsy to you? Like, we're both queens. Deal with it. So, yeah, Bingham, he's incensed, right? He's just so mad about this. And he just lays chaos in. Just. He just keeps wailing on Granya. He just makes things difficult for her continuously, like, consistently, one after another in a row. Just one dodgy piece of thing after another, right? And Granya is like, really? Right, fine. And she returns to seafaring in pirating ways. Like in 1795, like, she's like, oh, man, is he up to the stuff again. I better get out my boat. And there's reports of her being an elderly woman. Like, she's almost 80 and she's pirating. Like, that's. I mean, that's just impressive. And by 1587, just two years after this, the Burke family, they end up with a tidy wee sum, right? They get a nice wee chunk of change for helping the crown. Like, that's good for them, I guess. Don't know what they did. They just kind of showed up and were like, look, we're here, we're helping. Hi. But even then, you cannot keep Granya off a boat. Like, there are reports and sightings of her up until 1601. So she's like in her 80s still doing all this stuff. But in 1603, age finally catches up with Granja and she dies of natural causes. Or I don't know. At this point, I think the sea just claimed her. They're like, come on now, honey, one of us. And that is the story of Gronja Wheel Grande o', Malley, Ireland's pirate queen. So what did we learn today? We learned that I, like Gronjo o' Malley, am also petty. Yay. That, you know, pirating has no age limit. That's good. And hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Like, every time someone, like, near her is executed, she's like, I'm coming for you. Imma get you and I' ma burn it down. And I appreciate that level of passion. I really do. And of course, if you liked this episode, please rate and review five stars if you haven't already. It means the world to me. You have no idea. And share this episode. Share it everywhere. Share it privately. Share it publicly from Spotify, from Apple, podcasts, from Google, podcasts, from wherever you listen to your podcasts, it would mean you have no idea. I want Granya's name to be accepted as part of her and not have something else slapped on her just because it's more palatable for those who refuse to call her by her name. Now, don't forget, you can follow me on social media. I am on TikTok, Instagram, Twitter. All the links are going to be down below. If you are looking to go to the Heartland Pagan Festival on May Memorial Weekend. Yes, I'm gonna be there. There's gonna be three workshops, one one talk and a live podcast recording. And so link is in the description down below. And Katie 10. Katie 10 K A T I E 10 will get you a discount code. Yay. If there is a discount code, you'll get a discount. Trying to think what else for today. If you want to do the survey, do the survey again. Link is there, see how you get on. But yeah, mainly I just want everybody sharing. I just, I want her story out there. I know, it's just, it's kind of fragmented because we don't have a clear history about her because history in Ireland is oral, oral, oral, oral. One of those heard spoken. One of Those. So we don't necessarily have the perfect timeline, but we do our best with what we have. Oh yeah, merch. There's merch link down below as well. Merch is finally here. Huzzah. And I'm. I'm working on some exclusive merch for the Patreon, but that is coming. Oh, my recommendation time. I can't leave without recommendation time. Of course. So, listening. So I have been listening to the song Pretty Boys by Katie Bear on repeat. It is so good. It is far too correct actually. And yeah, it is brilliant. You should definitely listen to it. It's amazing. She's on Spotify. She's great. She's also on TikTok. It's so good. Pretty boys, they got nothing else to give it's so good. It's so good. Oh, and book wise, you should read A Bloody Good Massacre by my friend, the good honorable Reverend David Scott. He's not actually a reverend. It's a. It's a long story. It's a joke. But yeah, David Scott, the author, you should go read Bloody Good Massacre. It's on like Amazon and Waterstones and just places. Go read now. For watching. For watching. You know what I want you to do? I want you to go watch a Muppet Treasure island actually, because that is a quality movie. The songs, you cannot get anywhere. Big shame. I. I mean, Tim Curry is amazing, frankly. And that wee fella went on to be a comedian. I'm sure he's doing great. But yeah, Mupper Treasure Ireland is a quality all year round film, obviously Christmas Carol is peak, isn't it? But we watch that at Christmas. Treasure island has. It has Tim Curry and instead of a parrot, he has a lobster. I mean, what more do you want in a movie, right? Again, to be super annoying. I know, I know, I know. But like this. Share this. And if you do listen to this on streaming stuff, you can download it as well and it adds something. I don't know how the algorithm works, but if you download it on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, it does a thing. Apparently it boosts stuff up if you are rating and reviewing. If you write stuff in the box, it somehow boosts the review. I don't have the answers, but the technology does a thing. But without further ado, I really hope that this episode does well. I really do, because it just means so much to me. But yes, I am gonna say goodnight to you all. Thank you for listening. If you've made it this far, thank you. You're amazing. But I shall bid you farewell. Adios Au revoir. Au vuidersee my friends. Bye bye.
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