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Narrator
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Smarty Pants
I could press the keys, but I.
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Smarty Pants
And now it's time for who Smarted?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Gather round, ladies and gentlemen, gather round. We're almost at the end of the walking tour of Bumpsmoor Castle, but I've saved my favorite room for the end. Very exciting. Follow me, please. Psst.
Smarty Pants
Hey, smarty pants. I'm in England taking a walking tour of a really cool, really old medieval castle. And I must say, the tour guide is quite a character. His name is Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato. I know. It's pretty out there. Who knows if that's even his real name. He might have made it up for the tourists. But believe you me, I will get answers.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Voila. My favorite room of the castle. Behold, the armory. This is where all the weapons were kept. As you can see, it's filled with suits of armor, bows and arrows, and a great many swords. Everyone, feel free to take a look around, but please, no stabbing, slashing or smashing.
Smarty Pants
Oh, wow. Smarty pants. I've never seen so many swords in one place at one time. It's like an episode of Sword Hoarders.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Quite an impressive array, are they not?
Narrator
They are.
Smarty Pants
They are. But. But Sir Winston, would you Mind if I asked you a few questions about these swords and one about your name?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Um, sure, but try to make it snappy. The tour's almost over, right?
Smarty Pants
Any chance maybe this smarty pants and I can get a private tour?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
A private tour, Smarty pants? Um, this is highly irregular.
Smarty Pants
I'll pay extra.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Well, why didn't you say so? You got it. As for the rest of you, tour's over. Thanks for coming. Leave your tips in this medieval helmet here and be sure to check out the gift shop. Okay, it's just us. What questions do we have? I hope they're sharp. Ha. That's a little sword humor for you, right?
Smarty Pants
I usually make the bad jokes. Anywho, first things first. How does a sword differ from, say, a knife? Aren't all swords just big knives? Also, you said something about stabbing, slashing and smashing swords. So am I to believe there are different sword types?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Uh huh. Anything else?
Narrator
Yes.
Smarty Pants
Why did people used to fight in duels?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
So many questions. For not that much money. Right this way, narrator. You're about to become America's next top sword expert.
Smarty Pants
On God, smarty pants, it's time for a pointed whiff of science and history.
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Smarty Pants
Say, Sir Winston, what part of the castle are we in now? Looks like we're about to walk into a really fancy outhouse.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Don't be ridiculous. This is a time machine.
Smarty Pants
Oh, a time machine.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Reserved for private tours only. Strap in.
Smarty Pants
You know, we could have just taken mine.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Hang on.
Smarty Pants
Okay. A little bumpier than my time machine app, but definitely effective. So, where are we?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
We're in Medieval times.
Smarty Pants
Oh, the theme restaurant with huge turkey legs and jousting tournaments?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
No, the time period between 450 to 1500 CE.
Smarty Pants
Oh, of course.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Swords were a really big deal during this period.
Smarty Pants
So what do you think, smartypants? Do you think swords were invented during the medieval times?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
The answer is, goodness no. Swords are much, much older. Swords were developed in the Bronze Age when? With some of the oldest swords dating back to 3300 BCE.
Smarty Pants
Wow, that's over 5000 years ago. Smarty pants, where do you think the world's oldest swords were discovered? Is it A, Japan, B, England, or C, turkey? If you said turkey, you're right. So, Sir Winston, if swords were discovered during the Bronze Age, does that mean they were made of bronze?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
They were indeed the first, swords were made of something called arsenical copper. That's when arsenic and copper are combined, resulting in bronze. However, swords have come a long way since then. Oh yeah, you see, bronze isn't nearly as strong as some other metals.
Smarty Pants
Well, we definitely know it isn't as good as gold or silver. Sorry, that was a little Olympics joke.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
As I was saying, it wasn't uncommon for early swords to bend easily. In fact, the dagger actually came before the sword.
Smarty Pants
Ooh, smarty pants. Do you know what a dagger is?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
A dagger is just a much shorter sword. But the extra length of the sword combined with a weak metal meant more bending. More bending indeed. And a bendy sword is not what you want or need in battle. Luckily, by about the 13th century, swords were made of iron instead of bronze. Iron was easier to come by, and it was quicker to make an iron sword than a bronze one. So for the first time ever, you could now equip an entire army with swords.
Smarty Pants
Epic. But wait, isn't a sword really just a big knife?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
A sword is most certainly not just a big knife. Let's break it down. As I previously said, swords came from daggers. However, the difference is a knife is only sharp on one side, but a dagger is sharp on both sides. Well, it's the same with swords. And as daggers evolved and grew into swords, sword makers started designing different sword types for different uses.
Smarty Pants
Oh yeah? Like what?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
For example, a rapier is a straight sword with a pointed tip and is used for stabbing your opponent. This type of sword is called a thrusting sword. On the other hand, a sword like a cutlass or the Japanese katana sword is curved and would be used in military warfare to slash through your enemy's flesh. It was especially effective when attacking from atop a horse. Another variation is the large heavy Viking sword known as the Ulfberht sword, named after the sword's famous maker, which were good for smashing down through enemies armor.
Smarty Pants
Wow. Who knew there were so many types of swords?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
I did.
Smarty Pants
Right, so who mostly used swords? I'm guessing knights, warriors, Japanese samurai, Vikings, and other soldiers going to battle. That be accurate, smarty pants. What do you think? Were swords used by A, everyone, B, only soldiers, or C soldiers and the nobility? The answer is it depends. That's not really one of the answers.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Well, in that case, all three answers are right, depending on when in history we're talking about swords. Before the 16th century, swords were pretty much only used by armies going into battle. But eventually they became popular with the nobility too, as well as the upper classes.
Smarty Pants
Smartypants why do you think swords became more popular with noblemen and rich folks? Was it A in case intruders invaded their mansions, B, it was common for noblemen to go into battle, Or C because they were fashionable? If you said C, you're right. Yep.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
It was the passion for fashion. The nobility and upper classes just loved having a fancy sword to carry around.
Smarty Pants
Wait, so if they were for fashion, are you saying they just carried them around like as an accessory?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
That's right.
Smarty Pants
Seems like a heavy accessory.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
It was. But this too was a different type of sword. By the 17th and 18th centuries, when swords as fashion accessories really hit their stride, the sword of choice was the small sword. The it was indeed smaller than many other swords. Usually about 24 to 30 inches or 61 to 76 centimeters in length. Although some could be as long as 3ft or a meter.
Smarty Pants
And nobleman just carried them around?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Yes, slung into a holster on their waist. In those days, it was common for an upper class gentleman to wear a sword hanging from his waist every single day. Think of it as a really big piece of jewelry. The ladies had earrings, bracelets, necklaces and and gentlemen had shiny, intricate, elaborately decorated swords. Swords became status symbols.
Smarty Pants
Maybe I should start walking around with a sword.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Well, before you do, let me ask you this, trusty narrator. If a bunch of rich men walk around every day all carrying swords, what do you think is going to happen?
Smarty Pants
I think they might start using them.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Bingo. With everyone suddenly having a sword, dueling became common among the gentleman class. On guard.
Narrator
I see.
Smarty Pants
Smarty pants. Do you know what a duel is? Well, in case you don't, you'll find out right after this quick break and a word from our sponsors.
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Smarty Pants
Now back to who Smarted Okay Smartypants, we were talking about duels, but what is a duel?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
A duel is a sword fight between two people, the intention of which was not to kill, but to restore one's honor. Just like swords. Honor was a big deal back then.
Smarty Pants
Uh huh. So what sort of things did people duel over?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
All kinds of disputes or disagreements. During the medieval period, people fought what were called judicial duels. This meant people would duel to settle the dispute and it would be overseen by a judge. The duel would last until one of the combatants couldn't fight back anymore.
Smarty Pants
Yikes.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Eventually, when swords became a fashion accessory, dueling turned into more of a game between gentlemen. But it still still had to do with honor. And even though the intent wasn't to kill anyone, people did sometimes die because we're talking about sword fighting and folks.
Smarty Pants
Were just okay with possibly dying during a duel.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Actually, no. Even back then, people weren't too keen on the possibility of an accidental duel death. So duels became illegal from as far back as the early 17th century. But but in spite of that, people still dueled right up into the late 19th century. Luckily, around that same time, this dangerous game of playing with swords turned into an actual game, a proper sport that still exists to this day.
Smarty Pants
Smarty pants, which sport do you think dueling evolved into? Is it A lacrosse, B fencing, or C pole vaulting? If you said B fencing, you're right.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Swordsmanship similar to fencing had already existed since the 1300s, but it really didn't develop into a sport until the 1700s. I suppose people figured since we can't stop Anyone from wanting to duel, let's at least make it a sport, add lots of rules, and eliminate the you might die component.
Narrator
Good call.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Now, the sword used in fencing is the rapier. It's a thrusting sword, which, if you.
Smarty Pants
Recall, is a stabbing sword, not a slashing or smashing sword.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Well done. Although one of the new rules now that dueling became the very proper sport of fencing was that there was no actual stabbing allowed. The goal is for your sword to make contact with your opponent to score points, but you don't stab them. Plus, everyone wears protective gear, which happens to look quite chic.
Smarty Pants
So now that dueling evolved into fencing, did dueling for honor stop?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Eventually, yes. But while carrying swords and sword duels fell out of favor, a new weapon took its place. Instead of dueling with swords, they began to use pistols.
Smarty Pants
Oh, great. So dueling got even more dangerous.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
I'm afraid so. If you've ever seen a western movie, you've probably seen or heard of a gun duel. But eventually that went away too.
Smarty Pants
Thank goodness. And what about all those gentlemen from the 1700s carrying around swords as fashion accessories? I guess they just stopped doing that.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
They did. Instead, they began carrying around something similar in shape but way less dangerous. A cane or walking stick. And the fancier the cane, the more status you had.
Smarty Pants
Only now you wouldn't stab anyone.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Precisely.
Smarty Pants
Well, I gotta say, the smarty pants and I have learned a lot about swords today. But there's still one answered question on my mind.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Yes?
Smarty Pants
Is your name really Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato?
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Why, of course it is. You think I just made that up because I give tours of a medieval castle?
Smarty Pants
Well, I wasn't sure.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
The Shropshire Hasselback Potatoes are a proud lineage. How dare you insult my family's honor. En garde.
Smarty Pants
Hey, wait a second. I was just asking a question. Besides, I don't even have a sword. Or know how to use one.
Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato / Steve
Ha. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Besides, my real name is Steve. Don't tell anyone.
Smarty Pants
A dual shout out to Ruth and Tova in Los Angeles, California, who love listening to who smarted over breakfast at the start of their homeschool day. We're so happy to have you smarting with us. Keep up the great work. This episode Swords was written by jousting Phil Jeremy and voiced by Tea Enguarde Garlett and Jerry Colber. Technical direction and sound design by Josh to the Hilt Han. Our associate producer is Max the Blade Kamasky. The theme song is by Brian Longsword Suarez, with lyrics written and performed by Adam Dagger Davis, who's Smarted, was created and produced by Adam Tex Davis and Jerry Colbert. This has been an Atomic Entertainment production.
Episode Date: January 7, 2026
Host: Atomic Entertainment / Starglow Media
Guests/Characters: Smarty Pants, Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato ("Steve"), Narrator
This fun and fact-packed episode explores the evolving history of swords—not just as fearsome weapons, but also as surprising symbols of fashion, status, and sportsmanship. Smarty Pants and the ever-enigmatic Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato take listeners on a lively tour (complete with a time machine!) through castle armories, medieval history, and the stylish world of dueling gentlemen. Together, they investigate why people carried swords, the different types and purposes of swords throughout the ages, and the surprising role swords played as fashion accessories.
"What questions do we have? I hope they're sharp. Ha. That's a little sword humor for you, right?" — Sir Winston, [03:30]
Changing Hands through History ([09:40]):
Fashionable Swords:
On Sword Fashion:
"Gentlemen had shiny, intricate, elaborately decorated swords. Swords became status symbols." — Sir Winston, [11:05]
On the Danger of Duels:
"Even back then, people weren't too keen on the possibility of an accidental duel death. So duels became illegal from as far back as the early 17th century. But in spite of that, people still dueled right up into the late 19th century." — Sir Winston, [15:10]
On Historical Perspective:
"Swords were developed in the Bronze Age, with some of the oldest swords dating back to 3300 BCE." — Sir Winston, [05:58]
On Personal Identity:
"Is your name really Sir Winston Shropshire Hasselback Potato?"
"Why, of course it is. … Besides, my real name is Steve. Don't tell anyone." — Smarty Pants / Sir Winston, [17:53], [18:22]
The episode uses a lively, humorous tone filled with puns, creative storytelling, and engaging Q&A that invites children to think, guess, and laugh along. Both hosts make history come alive through clever dialogue, sound effects, and playful back-and-forth.
This episode of "Who Smarted?" is an educational romp through sword history—tracing their evolution from ancient weapon to must-have fashion statement for European gentlemen, and eventually, to today’s sport of fencing. Mixing humor, mnemonic games, and hands-on hypothetical questions, Smarty Pants and Sir Winston (Steve) make the history of swords accessible, memorable, and hilarious. Kids (and parents) will come away understanding not just what swords are, but why they mattered, who wielded them, and how society’s view of swords changed over time.
Fun fact takeaways: Swords can be status symbols, fashion statements, and even the inspiration for modern sports. Just don’t try using one as jewelry today…unless it’s a very fancy cane!