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WHOA That's Good Podcast
Episode: How to Take Control of Your Thoughts (For Real) | Sadie Robertson Huff & Jennie Allen
Date: January 28, 2026
Host: Sadie Robertson Huff
Guest: Jennie Allen
Episode Overview
In this honest, faith-filled episode, Sadie Robertson Huff sits down with author and speaker Jennie Allen to unpack practical strategies for taking control of your thoughts—whether you’re an anxious adult or a worried child. The conversation weaves through stories of revival on college campuses, spiritual urgency in today’s world, and the transformative power of vulnerability, prayer, and biblical truth. Jennie also dives into her new children’s book, "Whirly Swirly Thoughts," and the journey behind both her adult and children's resources for battling anxiety.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. God at Work: Revival Among the Next Generation
- Jennie and Sadie recount moments of spiritual hunger among Gen Z, especially on college campuses, describing personal stories from events like Breakaway at Texas A&M and the Unite tour.
- Jennie shares about witnessing large-scale repentance and spontaneous baptisms in campus events, emphasizing that revival isn’t limited to big arenas:
"This is happening also in local churches. This is happening in living rooms... We all need to be ready for revival." (Jenny Allen, 07:57)
- Sadie encourages listeners that spiritual movements often start small—in homes, dorms, and even bathtubs.
2. Personal Stories of Faith, Dreams, and Obedience
- The hosts discuss the miraculous story behind “Gather 25”, a worldwide event uniting millions of Christians. Both describe spiritual dreams that shaped their involvement, reinforcing a sense of urgency and participation for all believers:
"I woke up and thought, we need to gather the global church, which just should have stressed me out. But it didn't, because it just felt like it was from God." (Jennie Allen, 18:48)
- Sadie shares how God gave her a parallel dream, creating a profound sense of purpose and reassuring her after initial uncertainty:
"I was a little stunned because ... it was everything I had in a dream a year ago ... that quite honestly completely freaked me out." (Sadie Robertson, 21:09)
- Both hosts stress that everyone has a role—whether leading, affirming, praying, or supporting:
"Maybe it’s to be a part of it or help affirm or help pray or help link arms. ... Whatever your part looks like in your sphere of influence, that’s what you have to ask the Lord." (Sadie Robertson, 30:54)
3. Embracing Spiritual Urgency and Discernment
- The theme of living with urgency emerges repeatedly, particularly about sharing faith and responding to God’s leading—regardless of whether you’ve had dreams or not.
- Both discuss the importance of discerning God’s voice, testing dreams, and ensuring fruit like peace (not fear), referencing Christine Caine and the process of sharing and praying into spiritual impressions.
- Sadie recalls a dream about Jesus’ return that brought excitement, not anxiety, emphasizing that anticipation can be filled with hope, not fear:
"We were not scared at all ... It was like water was coming and the sun was getting brighter and we were going, it's happening, it's happening. He's coming ... And I remember being so thankful God gave me that picture because it felt like okay, he's coming back ... But I wasn't afraid at all. I was excited." (Sadie Robertson, 33:05)
4. The Reality of Anxiety in Faith-Filled Lives
- Jennie addresses the paradox: She serves as a champion of faith and revival—yet she still battles anxiety.
"I'm not faking ... I think people relate to that ... For two full days, I physically felt tightness in my chest ... It's not to resent that feeling, but to go to Jesus with it." (Jennie Allen, 35:22)
- Both hosts affirm that fear isn’t a disqualifier; it can be a prompt to depend more deeply on God:
"Fear keeps me dependent on God ... I don't ever want to be to a place where I'm like, oh, I got this. Like, no, I want to be dependent on you, Lord." (Sadie Robertson, 39:10)
- Memorable moment: Sadie admits nervousness to speak even to small groups of students, normalizing fear as a sign of significance and spiritual opportunity.
5. Tools for Taking Control of Thoughts (for Adults & Kids)
- Jennie shares the practical tools from her books (“Get Out of Your Head” for adults, “Whirly Swirly Thoughts” for kids):
- Teaching children—and adults—to recognize and name their thoughts.
- The importance of saying thoughts aloud and inviting others to help process them.
- The biblical mandate to “take every thought captive” (2 Corinthians 10:5).
"I didn't know till I was 20 something that I could interrupt my thought patterns, that I had a choice about what I thought about." (Jennie Allen, 43:59)
- Both hosts share stories of helping their own children process anxiety and learn to pray for peace, underlining the power of modeling and equipping the next generation.
- Jennie’s practical four-step “anxiety checklist”:
- Is it true?
- What does God say about it?
- Do I believe what God says?
- What step keeps me living free? (friends, scripture, prayer, action)
"If half a day goes by and I am still anxious... I’m going to call a friend and say, hey, can we get together tonight?" (Jennie Allen, 49:54)
6. The Power of Vulnerability, Community, and Prayer
- Vulnerability breaks the power of anxious thoughts:
"A word is louder than a thought ... My thoughts will be like, so loud, but then when I say it, I'm like, oh, okay. Like, it definitely starts to lose its power." (Sadie Robertson, 52:46)
- Both describe real-life moments of needing prayer in anxious situations and the immediate shift that comes:
"He just prays over my mind and prays over our children. And thanks to God that we’re good ... I did not feel anxious anymore because I just got it out." (Sadie Robertson, 52:46)
- Jennie emphasizes the spiritual battle behind anxiety and the necessity of prayer as our first response:
"We gotta recognize the enemy’s behind so much of this ... the greatest and quickest way to do that is prayer." (Jennie Allen, 54:25)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On revival starting small:
"We’re getting pictures from girls that’ll lead IF Gathering in their home, and they’ll be baptizing people in the bathroom, bathtub." (Jennie Allen, 07:57)
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On dreams and God’s urgent calling:
"I woke up and thought, we need to gather the global church ... if this is from God, he’ll do it." (Jennie Allen, 18:48)
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On parenting children with anxiety:
"For 5-year-olds to be as anxious as they are on earth right now, that's evil. Like, that is a sinister plan by the enemy." (Jennie Allen, 43:59)
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On vulnerability and community:
"... If half a day goes by and I am still anxious ... I'm going to call a friend and say hey, can we get together tonight?" (Jennie Allen, 49:54)
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On the enemy’s attacks:
"The more you love God, the more you are running after God, the more the enemy comes for you. And so you've got to guard yourself. The greatest and quickest way to do that is prayer." (Jennie Allen, 54:25)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Revival on College Campuses: 05:02–09:00
- Personal Stories of Dreams Leading to Gather 25: 17:12–21:09
- Processing God’s Dreams & Spiritual Urgency: 21:09–33:05
- Experiences with Anxiety & Faith: 35:22–39:10
- Helping Children Process Anxiety: 43:59–49:00
- Jennie’s Anxiety Checklist and Practices: 49:54–52:46
- The Role of Prayer in Overcoming Anxiety: 54:25
Episode Takeaways
- Revival is personal and accessible: Not just for large events—God moves in homes, friendships, and everyday moments.
- Everyone has a role in God’s story: Obedience can look like leading an event or just offering prayer or encouragement.
- Dreams and spiritual urgency shouldn’t create fear, but hope and action.
- Anxiety is part of many believers’ journeys—even leaders—yet faith in God and practical tools can transform your thought-life.
- Helping kids name and process anxious thoughts is crucial; parents can model and equip with faith-based tools.
- Vulnerability, community, and prayer are God’s antidotes to anxiety and spiritual attack.
If you want more, check out Jennie Allen’s books “Get Out of Your Head” and “Whirly Swirly Thoughts,” or visit her own podcast for further teaching and encouragement.