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Episode: We Mic'd Our Fights | Sadie Robertson Huff | Jason & Lauren Kennedy
Host: Sadie Robertson Huff
Guests: Jason & Lauren Kennedy
Date: August 20, 2025

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode welcomes Jason and Lauren Kennedy back to the podcast for an honest, lively discussion about their relationship journey, the realities of marriage with young kids, communication challenges, infertility and IVF, and their recent decision to record (and share) their marriage therapy sessions. Sadie, as always, seeks to surface the best life lessons and practical encouragement from her guests’ real-life stories.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. A Relationship Story: How Jason & Lauren Met

• [02:11 – 15:53]
  • Jason shares his initial curiosity about Lauren after seeing a news story about her accident (“Model loses arm and eye in plane accident”). He filed it away until their paths crossed in the context of E! News coverage.
  • Juliana Rancic, Jason’s co-host, eventually interviews Lauren and subtly sets them up.
  • Their initial meeting at E! News isn’t love at first sight, but Jason gives Lauren local recommendations and his number.
  • Lauren, Southern at heart, hesitates but eventually texts Jason (a moment memorialized on a note they’ve framed).
  • A hike together leads to more talking, FaceTiming, and eventually dating—despite major logistical challenges (LA/NYC/Texas).
  • Quote:

    “Nothing at that point in life made sense for me to date Lo, as we call it.”
    – Jason ([13:54])

2. Lessons from Their Unlikely Romance

• [17:14 – 22:44]
  • The couple highlights the benefit of not ruling things out due to logistics; rather, sometimes you just have to “marinate” in the relationship and see what unfolds.
  • Sadie relates this to advice she’s given: stop talking yourself out of possibilities just because you can’t see how it all could work.
  • Quote:

    “Stop overthinking it, you know, …years pass and you have no idea the opportunities... that you’re missing out on.”
    – Jason ([21:44])

3. Infertility & IVF: Their Journey to Having Kids

• [25:36 – 33:21]
  • Lauren describes their laid-back approach at first, shaped by openness about IVF in her family history (she and her twin sister were “early” IVF babies).
  • They sought medical evaluation, found a trusted doctor, and chose not to overwhelm themselves with internet research or external opinions.
  • Involving friends and making the journey communal helped ease the stress.
  • Jason details what he learned about male infertility and how common IVF has become.
  • Quote:

    “It became abundantly clear to us that we were not going to be able to get pregnant naturally. We were okay with that after we digested it and we started that journey. …It was incredible. …And it worked.”
    – Jason ([29:02])

  • They openly documented parts of the journey, helping break shame for others experiencing infertility.
  • In a surprise twist, after their first child was born via IVF, Lauren became pregnant naturally with their second child—contrary to doctors' predictions.
  • Quote:

    “We were told… from California to Dallas that it wouldn’t happen. …But again, that’s ridiculous. We’re not running the show.”
    – Jason ([32:56])

4. Birth Stories, Miracles, and Perspectives on Pain

• [35:06 – 47:35]
  • The group discusses traumatic and complicated births, and how the brain tends to “forget” the pain due to the joy of the outcome.
  • Sadie and Lauren share how musical and spiritual moments marked their deliveries.
  • They reflect on how experiencing “miracles” often means having to go through desperation and hard things.
  • Quote:

    “When you’re young, you’re like, ‘I want a miracle.’ …Then when you’re older, you realize in order to see a miracle, you have to go through a moment of desperation.”
    – Sadie ([43:56])

5. Marriage with Young Kids: Communication & Therapy

• [15:53 – 23:00, 47:35 – 55:04]
  • Jason & Lauren describe this as their hardest season of marriage (“arguing more than ever”), and credit therapy as crucial for navigating their relationship through parenting little ones.
  • Lauren’s background (her parents are marriage counselors who remarried after divorce) shaped her openness to therapy.
  • Jason confesses vulnerability around validation and communication.
  • Quote:

    “How do I not try to win an argument and just actually have a conversation and validate… If I hear the word validate one more time, I’m going to lose my mind.”
    – Jason ([48:58])

  • They recently recorded and released a real therapy session as a podcast, receiving overwhelmingly positive feedback and helping normalize married couples seeking help.
  • Sadie emphasizes the value of long-form conversation in teaching practical relationship skills, noting that social media “shorts” can’t replace authentic dialogue.
  • Quote:

    “To get to give the gift to people, to look into a marriage and …hear a counselor speak into it and you guys receive it… that is so inspiring and so good and so needed.”
    – Sadie ([53:18])

6. Naming the Therapy Podcast: “Validated”?

• [54:28 – 55:20]
  • The group brainstorms a title for Jason & Lauren’s podcast, riffing on the idea of “validation” in marriage.
  • “Validate” and “Validated” emerge as frontrunners, with humorous banter about copyright and the meaning behind valuing your partner’s experiences.
  • Quote:

    “If I hear validate again… but that’s kind of what validate… Like, valid… Validated…”
    – Sadie ([54:38])

  • The group laughs about Sadie’s listeners getting to be “there at the beginning” if the title sticks.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “It wasn’t this love at first sight thing, but …we went on that hike and it was really… a beautiful day.”
  – Jason ([13:39])
• “The gears start turning a little bit… I was doing the Today Show at the time and hosting E! News. So every week I was flying back and forth…”
  – Jason ([14:24])
• “I just think it was not as stressful a process for us, because we found a doctor we trusted. …I put boundaries on myself. Like, I’m not going to Google anything.”
  – Lauren ([26:29])
• “It worked. And sometimes it doesn’t work. …You learn the right and wrong things to say to people. Like, ‘Just keep trying.’ Well, that doesn’t help.”
  – Jason ([29:00])
• “After all that, doing a C-section, and then …our doctor literally, like, stuck his hands up my area and just pulled River out…”
  – Lauren ([39:20])
• “It’s a panic moment. …But it is funny how your brain, like, forgets because you’re just so grateful for what pregnancy brought you and what labor brought you.”
  – Sadie ([35:56])
• “How do we come together? …How do I not try to win an argument and just actually have a conversation and validate. …If I hear the word validate one more time, I’m going to lose my mind.”
  – Jason ([48:58])
• “The beautiful thing about podcasting and long-form conversation… is that people can see how to overcome an argument… You can’t learn that much in a TikTok.”
  – Sadie ([52:17])
• “I feel like generally in my life …women …want to approach things that are harder… Men …have to almost, like, learn that skill.”
  – Lauren ([50:12])

Important Timestamps

• [02:11 – 15:53]: Jason & Lauren’s relationship origin story
• [17:14 – 22:44]: Logistics vs. letting relationships grow, lessons for singles
• [25:36 – 33:21]: Infertility, IVF, community, miracle of second natural pregnancy
• [35:06 – 47:35]: Labor stories, memory, miracles, perspective on pain and faith
• [48:00 – 55:20]: Marriage therapy, communication, validation, launching their therapy podcast

Conclusion: Episode Impact & Takeaways

This episode is an honest, hopeful look at marriage, struggles, and resilience. The Kennedys' willingness to “mic their fights,” open up about infertility, and share unromantic but real moments gives listeners permission to be authentic in their own relationships. The dialogue models practical ways to practice empathy, let go of control, and invite community—even (and especially) in seasons that feel overwhelming. The recurring theme: Trust the process, don’t overthink the “how,” ask for help, and let real conversations happen.