Wired In: Making America Rich Again & Rust Belt Rescue

Summary

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Wired In: Making America Rich Again & Rust Belt Rescue

Podcast: Wired In
Host: Cabot Phillips (The Daily Wire)
Date: July 9, 2026

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Episode Overview

This packed episode of “Wired In,” hosted by Cabot Phillips, focuses on pivotal stories shaping American politics, economics, and culture. Key topics include the GOP’s battle to keep Michigan red in the face of rising left-wing populism, the Democratic meltdown in Maine after Graham Platner drops his Senate bid, America’s move to lead the crypto economy with an interview from SEC Chairman Paul Atkins, and lively discussions on culture, family formation, and political accountability. Featuring sharp analysis, revealing interviews, and spirited debate, the episode explores what it takes to “Make America Rich Again”—both literally, via Wall Street, and figuratively, in the strength of families and communities.

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1. [00:15] Michigan Senate Showdown: Socialism vs. Free Markets

Key Segment: Interview with Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI)

• Context:
  Abdul El Sayed, a self-described democratic socialist, is surging in the Michigan Democratic Senate primary. El Sayed supports policies like abolishing ICE, defunding the police, government-run health care, and ending gas-powered cars—setting up a “free market vs. socialism” election.
• Rogers’ Perspective:
  • Stopping the spread of “dangerous” socialism is paramount.
  • Warns El Sayed “wants the government to own companies. I mean, this thing is as bad as you think it is.” [03:18]
  • Calls out El Sayed's inconsistency on police funding: “In a 2020 radio interview, he said, ‘I believe that we do need to defund the police.’” [05:46]
  • Argues Detroit’s UAW endorsed El Sayed even though he’d “take away those privately negotiated health care plans” and supports policies harmful to the auto industry. [07:16]
  • Criticizes government EV and anti-gas mandates: “We build gasoline cars here in Michigan. We build damn good ones.” [08:44]
  • Frames the race as “free market vs. socialism and… crazy vs. common sense.” [07:56]
• Economy & Michigan’s “Change Election”:
  • State has lost 30,000 manufacturing jobs in eight years.
  • Michigan has the region’s highest utility and insurance rates, and has slipped in education rankings.
  • “This is our chance, this is our change election… If you want Michigan up off her knees... then we have to make a change.” [11:00]
• Notable Quotes:
  • Rogers: “The crazier things he says, the higher his numbers go.” [04:59]
  • Rogers: “If you don’t like America, my argument is you probably ought not to represent it in the United States Senate.” [09:19]

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2. [12:08] Culture & Justice: The Charlie Kirk Assassination Case

Segment: With Isabel Brown (Daily Wire Host)

• Trial Update:
  • Preliminary hearings in Utah focus on new evidence, including a revealing 16-minute segment from conversations between the accused and a key witness.
  • The prosecution and Kirk family push for maximum transparency, while the defense tries to limit evidence.
  • Brown: “This is not a true crime podcast... This was a real person and a real family who is having to relive this tragedy every second of every day.” [13:26]
• Cultural Notes: Liberal Pop Stars & Family Formation:
  • Olivia Rodrigo pledges a portion of her tour sales to Planned Parenthood:
    • Brown: “It screams the opposite of role model for my daughter... just break[s] to think about how this money could have been used to help mothers in financial crisis.” [17:09]
  • Taylor Swift’s surprise wedding at Madison Square Garden:
    • Brown: “Not at all where I expected Taylor Swift to get married.” [18:11]
    • Discusses the pop star’s cultural influence and hopes for a “baby boom” if Swift has children.
• Motherhood & Fertility Trends:
  • Explores why liberal women are having fewer children (marriage rates, feminism, cultural narratives).
  • Brown: “Motherhood is the opposite of glamorous... but it is wonderful... it challenges you and it stretches you in the most profoundly beautiful ways.” [22:17]
  • Notable stat: Young conservative women are much more likely than liberal women to have children; Gallup poll shows young men now more likely than young women to prioritize marriage and kids.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Brown: “It’s the Kirk family and the prosecution that want as much radical transparency as possible... every minute of this preliminary hearing, we’ve seen the defense do everything they can to limit information.” [15:53]
  • Brown: "Young men under 35 now say their first and second political priorities are to get married and to have children—it's not a priority for young women. It's second to last." [22:31]

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3. [26:05] DC Insider Reaction: Maine Senate Debacle

Segment: "Rice and Beans" with Tim Rice, D.C. Bureau Chief

• Graham Platner’s Exit:
  • Platner suspends his campaign amidst mounting scandals, posting an “11 minute...self-indulgent” video where “he paints himself as the victim, smears his accusers, [and] relitigates things.” [28:07]
  • Rice says Platner is stalling to maximize fundraising before the ballot locks:
    • “He’s saying, I will drop out, but the candidate that replaces me has to be just as progressive as me.” [30:34]
• Democratic Party Turmoil:
  • DSCC Chair Kirsten Gillibrand threatens to withhold funds unless Platner steps down.
  • Rice: “The notion that he is simply being targeted because of his progressive views is both absurd and defensive.” [29:16]
  • Reflects on parallels to how Democrats delayed pressuring Biden to step aside—suggesting action is motivated by polling, not principle.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Rice: “[Platner’s] video would have been too much... It’s unbecoming, it’s undignified.” [28:07]
  • Rice: “For Democrats, they basically said there was a level of sexual assault and...abuse that [they’re] willing to tolerate from candidates. It is only either a level of the nature of the crime or the caliber of the accuser...that’s our red line.” [34:43]

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4. [36:15] Building Wealth Through Innovation: Interview with SEC Chair Paul Atkins

Key Focus: Crypto, Trump Accounts, Wealth Taxes, and American Capitalism

• SEC’s Mission:
  • Atkins: “We’re trying to breathe new life into [the SEC] and get it back to focusing on growth and innovation.” [36:44]
• Crypto Regulation:
  • Goal: Make America the “crypto capital of the world.”
  • Shift away from “regulation by enforcement” to clear, modern rules that promote innovation domestically.
  • Atkins: “Innovation and modernization...has so many good potential benefits for all of us.” [37:44]
• Benefits and Pitfalls:
  • Blockchain can cut costs, risk, and settlement time in finance.
  • Atkins stresses the SEC is “agnostic” on crypto assets: “If the market sees utility in it, it’ll use it.” [40:39]
  • Want to avoid “government imposing its will, choosing winners and losers.”
• Trump Accounts & Financial Inclusion:
  • Atkins: “A really seminal time in our nation’s history.” [43:27]
  • Trump accounts give every American under 18 a $1,000 market “stake” to grow wealth from birth; designed to supplement—not replace—Social Security.
  • Draws historical analogies to America’s origin as an investment project.
• Wealth Taxes & Economic Freedom:
  • California’s proposed wealth tax is “antithetical to everything that the United States stands for... I have confidence that something like that will not prevail.” [49:38]
  • America must remain the world’s top capital market to thrive.
• Notable Moments & Light Banter:
  • Atkins shares that people often mistake his “SEC” for “Southeastern Conference” sports tickets:
    • Atkins: “I don’t think you want the ticket that I can give you... that’s more like a cop and you may go to jail.” [51:12]
  • Cabot: “Much more important than some college football... is what you’re doing.” [51:29]

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5. [52:16] Democratic Reckoning: Platner Fallout and the Left’s Blind Spots

Segment: With Bhatia Ungar Sargon

• Platner’s Fallout:
  • Bhatia derides Platner’s “level of self pity” and the party’s willingness to overlook scandals:
    • “They called us Nazis and then they went and backed a guy with an actual Nazi tattoo.” [53:51]
  • Blames Democratic elites for “picking a disgusting human and thinking this is what the working class wants.”
  • Argues the party is run by “rich, effeminate, overeducated Nepo babies” out of touch with real working people.
• Lessons Learned?
  • Bhatia is skeptical Democrats will learn or take responsibility; expects “the stench of Graham Platner” to stick to other radical candidates.
  • Media figures criticized for casting doubts on Platner’s accuser.
• Maine Outlook:
  • Despite Democratic chaos, says, “I never thought [Susan Collins] was in trouble… She’s exactly what people in Maine want in a senator.” [57:48]
• Notable Quotes:
  • Bhatia: “Apparently it’s me too, but only believe all women if they’re Republicans.” [54:17]
  • Bhatia: "...Working class people saw a scumbag... this whole thing could not have played out better in terms of exposing exactly who the Democrats are." [54:46]

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Noteworthy Quotes & Their Timestamps

| Speaker | Quote | Time | |--------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------| | Rep. Mike Rogers | "This is as dangerous as I've ever seen it..." | 03:10 | | Cabot Phillips | "The crazier things he says, the higher his numbers go." | 04:59 | | Isabel Brown | "This isn’t a true crime podcast... This was a real person and a real family..." | 13:26 | | Isabel Brown | "Motherhood is the opposite of glamorous... but it is wonderful..." | 22:17 | | Tim Rice | "[Platner's] video would have been too much... It’s unbecoming, it’s undignified." | 28:07 | | Paul Atkins | "We’re trying to breathe new life into [the SEC] and get it back to focusing on growth and innovation." | 36:44 | | Paul Atkins | "If the market sees utility in it, it’ll use it..." | 40:39 | | Cabot Phillips | "Much more important than some college football... is what you’re doing." | 51:29 | | Bhatia Ungar Sargon| "...They called us Nazis and then they went and backed a guy with an actual Nazi tattoo." | 53:51 | | Bhatia Ungar Sargon| "Apparently it’s me too, but only believe all women if they’re Republicans." | 54:17 |

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Additional Highlights & Memorable Moments

• Isabel Brown’s candid discussion of motherhood, the cultural politics of family, and why liberal women are having fewer children [21:00–24:30].
• Rice and Phillips banter about Platner and Democratic crisis management [27:00–35:45].
• SEC Chair Atkins’s perspective on America’s historic relationship with markets [47:00–48:30].
• Bhatia Ungar Sargon’s scathing indictment of Democratic elites’ condescension toward the working class [53:32–54:46].

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Segment Timestamps (for Navigation)

• [00:15] – Show Intro & Michigan Senate Coverage
• [03:01–11:59] – Interview: Rep. Mike Rogers (Michigan Senate race)
• [12:08–26:04] – Studio with Isabel Brown (Charlie Kirk case, social commentary)
• [26:05–35:40] – DC’s Tim Rice on Maine Senate chaos
• [36:15–51:48] – Interview: SEC Chairman Paul Atkins (Crypto, Trump accounts, regulation)
• [52:16–58:31] – Bhatia Ungar Sargon on Platner scandal, Democratic Party critique

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Tone & Language

The episode is sharp, energetic, and brimming with skepticism toward progressive politics and ideas, especially those perceived as anti-market or anti-family. The hosts blend detailed policy discussion, personal anecdotes, and pointed critique in keeping with The Daily Wire’s signature style—direct, sometimes irreverent, and unapologetically conservative.

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For Listeners

Whether you’re interested in the future of American manufacturing, the politics of the Rust Belt, the regulation of crypto, or the social roots of America’s fertility crisis, this episode delivers policy depth, lively personalities, and a whirlwind tour of the week’s top stories.

Transcript

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Good evening everybody, and welcome to Wired In. I'm Cabot Phillips, coming to you live from Daily Wire hq. Thanks for spending your Thursday with us. We've got another packed lineup today, so let's close out the week strong. We're going to sit down in person with with the chairman of the sec. I can already feel some college football fans perking up. I'm not talking about the Southeastern Conference. I'm talking about the other sec. You know, the one that regulates Wall street and impacts tens of millions of Americans every day. The very important real sec. So stick around for that conversation. We're also gonna hear from the Republican candidate looking to beat back the socialist wave in Michigan and keep the GOP majority in the Senate. Graham Platner finally dropped his disastrous Senate bid and now Democrats are scrambling to replace him the and save any hopes of winning in November. We'll tell you what comes next. And at the very end of the program, we're gonna be joined by a very special guest who also happens to be my twin brother. Dailywire members, you're gonna get to join our live Q and A. Start dropping those questions in the chat. If you're on Apple and Spotify and you wanna hear my twin bro spill all of my deepest, darkest secrets and tell the most embarrassing stories from my childhood, you gotta head over to DailyWire.com subscribe and join our member block. And of course, if you want to help us out in the meantime, please give us a follow and review wherever you get your podcasts. All right, let's do this thing. Roll that graphic. And just a reminder, Wired In Live is now streaming live at 4pm Eastern Monday through Thursday. Get daily coverage of the news happening right now. Hear why it all matters and talk with experts who are actually in the story, not just sitting around talking about it. Become a member and join the live [e-mail] subscribe. Well, as I just mentioned, Grand Platner may be out of the race in Maine, but there are still plenty of far left socialists still on the ballot nationwide. And perhaps none is more radical than Abdul El Sayed, who appears primed to win the Democratic Senate nomination in Michigan. El Sayed has advocated for abolishing ice, defunding the police, and abolishing prisons. He supported a federal Jobs guarantee and of course, government run health care, wealth redistribution and everything else you might expect from a socialist. Our next guest is the man looking to prevent him, or any Democrat for that matter, from taking office this November. It's Republican Congressman Mike Rogers. Congressman, thanks so much for coming on. So we just had the Fourth of July. I know a lot of Americans, they're just now starting to pay attention to the midterms. So for those folks who are just now kind of tuning into things, tell us just what is at stake in your race there in Michigan.

[A]

Opportunity to make sure that the Democrats cannot take back the United States Senate. I can't tell you how important that is for all of our future prosperity and freedom. And it's also to stop this wave of Democrat socialism that is rearing up as a mainstay in the Democrat Party in America. And it's. I just think it's as dangerous as I've ever seen it. And we even have it at the extreme here. A lot of Mandami like qualities about Abdul El Sayed, who's running here for the nomination. He's actually doing well. The latest poll I saw had him up significantly in the primary to win this election. And as you said, you went through the list of open borders and he wants the government to own companies. I mean, this thing is as bad as you think it is. And then you just add the flavor of sheer meanness. And you know, he's pretty good at fibbing his way on his resume as well. You take all that together, this, this is a dangerous thing.

[B]

I want to get to some of that fibbing, but first I'm just interested in the trend of this rise of socialism. There was kind of this idea for a while that it was relegated to these deep blue pockets in LA and New York, but now we're seeing it spread to places like Maine. We're seeing Syed in Michigan have this remarkable traction on the left. Have you been surprised by the fact that a socialist candidate like this is gaining a foothold in America's heartland?

[A]

I am. And what surprised me more, he came here with Hasan Piker. I'm sure your viewers are well aware of who Hasan Piker is. Pretty radical guy. Campaigns with him here. And when was asked about should you disavow piker's comments on 9 11, you know, with America deserved 911 or the fact that the streets should run red with capitalist blood all across America, he said, I'm not here to disavow any of that. He showed up at two college campuses, Michigan State University and University of Michigan same day, thousands of kids showed up cheering, hollering, applauding about having their rights taken away. I mean, it was really quite staggering. And to see that kind of how well he's doing now. The only thing I caution you is that Bernie Sanders won Michigan when he was running for president with this Democrat base. So it's over there already, the Democrat base of Michigan. He's just poured gas on it. And it is that energy from that far left that seems to be catapulting him up. And by the way, the crazier things he says, the higher his numbers go.

[B]

Yeah, that's been one of the stunning things we've seen in this race. And one of the big issues in this race has been el sayed support, or lack thereof, of law enforcement. On the campaign trail, he recently claimed that he, quote, never, never called for defunding the police. But we have a new report on the Daily Wire proving that that's not true. For example, in a 2020 radio interview, he said, quote, I believe that we do need to defund the police. And then elsewhere, he has demanded that his tax dollars that funded police be refunded. What do you make of this apparent lie?

[A]

Well, I mean, it's clear who he was when he didn't think he was running, and now he thinks he needs to kind of fib his way into to try to find himself in a Senate seat. That's who he is. That's what he believes. And he has believed it for a long time. That's why he's that kind of open border, the socialist wing of this party. Open borders, anti police, Defund the police. He wants to abolish ICE so that we have no mechanism to go out and find rapists and murderers and aggravated assaulters across America. And so that's who he is. And now he's trying to kind of reframe that to sound a little softer so he can go after some independence. It's too late. I mean, we're going to make sure that the whole state knows exactly who this guy is and really how dangerous his ideas are. And, you know, again, anti police, anti ice. He thinks everybody ought to be welcome here. He thinks the government should run companies. I mean, this is as bad as it gets. You know, here we have a really interesting thing happen, Cabot. The UAW came out. This is the president wears a shirt, eat the rich. I don't know if you've ever seen this guy. He wears a shirt, eat the rich. Right. This is. That tells you exactly what you need to know, they endorsed Abdul in this race. He wants to take away those privately negotiated health care plans. My phone has been ringing off the hook with UAW workers. And by the way, my brother was a UAW worker. I worked on an auto assembly line. My dad was in a union. These folks are picking up the phone going, uh, we work too hard for those benefits in negotiations. We're not giving them away to the government. So it's, there's some really interesting stew here kind of brewing for this election. And I think it's. It's going to be free market versus socialism and it's going to be crazy versus common sense. I think common sense is going to win every time.

[B]

Congressman, you bring up the auto workers, obviously the auto industry. Massive for Michigan's economy. It is a bit ironic because El Sayed has previously worked very closely with a radical group that advocated for an end to gas powered cars entirely. Are voters there aware of that? Because you'd think that that'd be a pretty big issue in Michigan.

[A]

It's a huge issue in Michigan and they're not aware of it. And I think that's why he's gotten this far without a full vetting of who he is and what he stands for. I mean, even the other opponent in the race does, is big on EV mandates, which is not popular here in Michigan. The workers understand that's a sure way to lose jobs here. When the government mandates the kind of cars you should drive, he even takes that one step further, was with a group that said no gasoline cars at all. Well, guess what we do here? We build gasoline cars here in Michigan. We build damn good ones. By the way. I helped build some. My brother helped build some. I mean, we're, we're big believers in the product that comes out of the great state of Michigan. He is so out of tune for all of that. I mean, when he talks about agriculture and how the government ought to be running pieces of that, who they are is terrifying. And I think this youth movement is caught up in the charismatic socialism. Hey, free stuff. Good. Without realizing your health care may be expensive now. You should try it when it's free. Yeah, man. How expensive that's going to be for you? And so they just don't understand the freedoms that they're giving away. So that's why I think this debate is going to be really good and really healthy and we're going to connect this whole new generation to what it means to be a free marketer and stand up for the 250 years of American history. And this is a Guy on the 4th of July said, America is 250 years of mistakes. I don't know if you don't like America, my argument is you probably ought not to represent it in the United States Senate.

[B]

Yeah, Congressman, whoever you face, it looks like it'll be El Said, but it could be Haley Stevens as well. But whoever you face, you're gonna have to be able to convince voters on the economy that is still far and away the top issue for voters. And honestly, that is a bit concerning from a GOP perspective because if you look at the polls, they show that voters are pessimistic about the state of the economy. They say for the first time in years that they trust Democrats more than Republicans on this topic. So how do you combat that sentiment and win?

[A]

So not a national race here in Michigan. This is a change election. 32 years, two Democrats saying the same thing, talking the same way, voting the same way. We've lost 30,000 manufacturing jobs just in the last eight years. And by the way, the Democrats control Lansing, Michigan. We now have the highest utility rates in the region and 20% higher than the national average. We have the highest auto insurance rates. Our education went top tier when I'm, when I was in school here TO now we're 45th in the country. Man, it can't get any worse. And so what we're doing is talking about how we're going to fix these things, the price of housing and how out of Lansing, Michigan, $25,000 in new regulatory costs for every house that they put on a house. For every thousand dollars you raise the price of a house. Cabot3200 Michigan citizens can't buy one. They have been a disaster for working families. And what we're doing around the state to say this is our chance, this is our change election. Don't care what's happening nationally. If you want Michigan up off her knees, being back in the defense industrial based business, manufacturing here, getting our kids educated here, getting our costs down and your job prices up because you're in demand, then we have to make a change. And I am that change that will go to Washington and make it happen.

[B]

Well, we are gonna be watching your race very closely, Congressman. Thank you so much for making time for us. We really appreciate it.

[A]

Hey, really, really appreciate it. Thanks so much, Gavin.

[B]

Absolutely. That is Congressman Mike Rogers running for Senate up in the great state of Michigan. Let's come back in studio because we are joined now by Daily Wire host Isabel Brown. Isabel, how we doing?

[C]

I'm doing pretty good, Cabot. Can't complain.

[B]

It is great to have you here. We wrested you from D.C. i know

[C]

it was nice to get out of the crazy for a day, even just for a day trip. I'll take it.

[B]

I'm proud of you because you have not become a swamp creature despite living in Houston.

[C]

Okay. I get a lot of hate for this, interestingly, but I actually really enjoy living in Washington during the short stints that I'm there. It's never a forever place, as you know. It's a very transient place, but there are so many amazing people doing everything they can to save our country in Washington right now, and it's awesome to be a part of that.

[B]

It is remarkable. I was in D.C. for seven or eight years and seeing how much the city changes based on who is in power as a wild thing. But that's a conversation for another time. Isabel, honestly, this is a somber week for a lot of us. You were, I know, very close with Charlie. I knew Charlie well also. And seeing this trial get kicked off with these preliminary hearings, it's been a reminder of what we lost. But also I think there's some hope that we're seeing some justice come in. And so you've been tracking this very closely. What were we seeing today in this preliminary hearing? What sort of new evidence? What do we see?

[C]

Yeah, Cavett, you're absolutely right. This is a really tough week for all of us who know and love Charlie, and certainly is a powerful reminder of what we're actually talking about when we're talking about his assassination. This isn't a true crime podcast or some crazy HBO series that we all want to binge watch really quickly in a few weeks and then get over. This was a real person and a real person with a real family who is having to relive this tragedy every second of every day this week sitting in the gallery of this courtroom. I know many friends who are there in attendance to support the Kirk family. Obviously, I'm reaching out to them as well, the family, but lots of updates as to what's been going on. And today was a really big day when it comes to this preliminary hearing. For the record, this is not the start of the trial. The trial may not actually even start until as late as 2028, but they are hoping for next summer. So June or July of 2027. This is the state of Utah's process in order to take something to trial to prove that the person convict or not convicted yet but accused of the crime has Enough evidence to take it to trial in the first place. So right now you're watching the prosecution and then they'll hand it over to the defense, lay out their case as to why this should or should not go to trial. And today in particular, there was a lot of witness testimony from Lance Twiggs, the trans furry boyfriend, lover of Tyler Robinson, who many people have assumed has been granted immunity for testifying against Tyler. But a video was played in court today showing all of the conversations that they had in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination and incredibly damning against Tyler Robinson.

[B]

What was said in those videos?

[C]

Yeah, so it's a 37 or so minute video. From what we know it was put forward by the defense, that none of this should be shown as it somehow violates Tyler Robinson's constitutional rights. The defense didn't make a great case for that. And Erica Kirk's legal team ended up submitting an appeal for that this morning. The judge kind of find a happy medium in the middle of all of that this morning. And showed about 16 minutes of the 37 minute video, mostly talking about the text messages, the discord chats, and the handwritten note that Tyler Robinson left behind for Lance Twiggs. Very expressly saying, I did this. I killed Charlie Kirk. Apparently they had a conversation after the fact that was also referenced in this video that he visibly said in person, in an in person conversation, I wish I hadn't done this. And was hugely distraught. But notably, Tyler was incredibly uncomfortable in court today and was shifting in his seat quite a bit. He was picking at his hands. He seemed very, very uncomfortable when discussing the text messages and a tool that he allegedly used to carve those messages into the bullets that we knew about in September.

[B]

Now, I wanna get back to something you touched on a bit, and that is the Kirk family and their attorneys pushing for more transparency, for more evidence to be made public. What's going on there? Exactly.

[C]

Hugely important, because online you would assume that the prosecution is doing everything they can to twist and manipulate and change the story to make sure certain defense that would clearly let Tyler Robinson off here is not shown in court. Really what's actually happening is to the contrary, it's the Kirk family and the prosecution that wants as much radical transparency as possible. Whereas every minute of this preliminary hearing, we've seen the defense do everything they can to limit information and evidence from being shown. So I think it speaks volumes in terms of the intent behind all of this, but certainly on the side of radical transparency myself.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's Something we all want to see. I shouldn't say we all. Everyone who wants real justice in this case wants to see. I bring you on for many reasons. We love having you. But one of them is that you are much more social media adept than I am. I'm the resident.

[C]

I doom sprawl too much. It's too bad I gotta get a dumb phone at this point.

[B]

You keep up with a lot of the goings on more than I. And I saw this headline that. I don't know if I was surprised or just disgusted, but Olivia Rodrigo, this huge pop singer who, I must confess, she has a few good songs here.

[C]

She does. There's some bangers out there.

[B]

My wife has played some of her songs and we both thought we would hate it, and it was actually kind of catchy. But I might have to stop playing them because she's now fundraising. For who, exactly?

[C]

Planned Parenthood. She announced this week that a huge portion of her tour sales and revenue would be going towards funding Planned Parenthood if the Trump administration was gonna fail to appropriately fund them. But it's hardly surprising. I mean, she's used her stage platform many, many times at her concerts to talk about women's rights to abortion and all of these things over the past few years. It's unfortunate and it's really sad, frankly. As the mother of a daughter, it screams the opposite of role model for my daughter. And it just break to think about how this money could have been used to help mothers in financial crisis through things like pregnancy resource centers, to actually provide them free prenatal care and diapers and babysitting services that they really could benefit from instead of just encouraging them to kill their children.

[B]

Yeah, it is disappointing, to say the least. Another pop star, though, that we have to get to. Taylor Swift.

[C]

Oh, boy. Big week.

[B]

Big week again. This is a. It's the middle of the summer. It's a Thursday. We can talk about some fun stories. So Taylor Swift gets married, first of

[C]

all, when Madison Square Garden.

[B]

Why did she get married at Madison Square Garden? Executive.

[C]

So people are trying to make the case this was for privacy reasons. And I do kind of understand that you would have no helicopters overhead, no media sneaking into the venue. I can kind of wrap my head around this, but not at all where I expected Taylor Swift to get married.

[B]

That surprised me. But the question that I have for you is if and when, hopefully if or hopefully when Taylor Swift has a baby, do you think this is gonna create this new baby boom? Cause people said, hey, when she got married or engaged it was gonna encourage all these young people to say, hey, marriage actually is cool. Do you think the same thing happens if she has a child?

[C]

I hope so. I'm incredibly optimistic about it. It's not a secret that Taylor Swift and I don't have a lot in common politically. And truthfully, I miss old Taylor really, really bad. The original albums just hit so much better. They peaked at 1989 and I really haven't loved any of them since. But I hope so, because ultimately it doesn't really matter whether you're a conservative or a liberal when we talk about the revival of the American family. The family is the bedrock of our culture and our society and we need people from across the political spectrum to be having kids. Right now it's literally only young conservative women remotely interested in having kids. And that's a minority for the women in our generation. So I hope this starts a beautiful, flourishing conversation about the joy of motherhood and the revival of the family in our country again.

[B]

Yeah, and I saw some stats recently about how liberal women are having like three times fewer children per capita than conservative women. So I don't really care what drives them to have kids. If you need your favorite pop star,

[C]

if it's Taylor Swift, I'll be okay with it.

[B]

I'm totally fine with that. And on the topic of motherhood, we have some people in the chat chiming in, asking for a check in on how motherhood is treating you.

[C]

Oh my gosh, it's been amazing. My daughter is 14 months old already, which flew by in the blink of an eye and is running around our house babbling all day long. Who would have guessed right? She's clearly the daughter of two yappers. She's a talker already, but it's been beautiful. And as you know, as a father, just the most magical experience you could possibly wish for in life.

[B]

What did you guys do for the Fourth?

[C]

We ended up watching the fireworks in D.C. the world's largest ever fireworks show from the balcony of the Interior Department at Secretary Burgum's office. And my daughter woke up right beforehand at like 12 o', clock, which was bad news bears for her sleep schedule. We ruined it for the whole week, but so worth it. She just lit up and had the most beautiful experience celebrating our country.

[B]

We took our two kids down to the beach. We have a two and a half year old, a four month old, we took them down to the beach expecting this beautiful moment of them watching the fireworks. And then the first one went off and they both were not Fans, really?

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

If they were like half a mile away, it would have been great. But this one guy was shooting them up directly above us. And so my.

[C]

You love him or you hate him? Little kid, right?

[B]

My younger or my older son was looking up, kind of panicking, and then we woke up the next morning, and the first thing he said was, no, more fireworks. More fireworks. And it was just. It just broke my heart. But also it was like, that's the cutest thing I've ever seen. And I want to get back to something that I see people in the chat pointing out the conversation about. They have their own theories on why liberal women are not having kids.

[C]

There's a lot I have to ask you.

[B]

What is your theory? I'm seeing some in the chat, some of them going, hmm, yeah, I agree with that. Others, I'm saying, I don't know if that's it. What do you think?

[C]

There's a lot of contributing factors. I had a fascinating conversation about this at a panel. I spoke at a D.C. embassy just a few weeks ago, and a journalist was arguing with me, saying, well, we're in a fertility crisis, but not because of infertility. And I said, no, yes, actually, yes, because of infertility, but mostly because people just aren't choosing to have children. And that's largely driven by the fact that people aren't choosing to get married. The Institute for Family Studies does great research on this, but finds an inexplicable link between marriage and children. Inexplicable in today's culture, but we know from thousands of years of that, of course the two are linked. So I think the more we can encourage people to pursue real love, to fall in love and say I do for the rest of their life, to commit to someone in the beauty of matrimony, the more likely it is we'll see the rise of kids, too.

[B]

Do you think the shift is real? Because one of the things we've seen from skeptics on the left, when they look at women on the right having kids, they say, oh, you guys present this unrealistic version of what motherhood is. And you guys, you know, you hype up this trad life and you hype up motherhood and make it seem glamorous and wonderful, and women actually become mothers, and they realize that it's not real life. What do you think when you see those things?

[C]

I get a lot of that criticism myself on social media, especially from the mainstream media, though. And I always retort with. I never present it as Glamorous motherhood is the opposite of glamorous, actually. It will dramatically humble you day in and day out, 24 hours a day. But it is wonderful, that second word that you used, it challenges you and it stretches you in the most profoundly beautiful ways. And you are a different person after you have kids. You can say goodbye to the person you are beforehand you. But you are a better person. You're more patient, you're kinder. You're looking for more meaning and purpose in your life. And I think young women across the board really want that. But importantly, young men are desperate for it. And there was a research study that came out from Gallup a few months ago finding the first and second political priorities of young men under 35 are to get married and to have children. It is not a priority for young women. It's second to last, actually, to pursue those. But I think as you're watching this massive pendulum swing culturally with young men taking back leadership in our culture and reviving real masculinity again, you'll watch young women follow. It's pretty hard to ignore a beautiful trend with young men and all these handsome, masculine men wanting to ask you to marry them and have children.

[B]

What were the things at the top of the list for women when they were listing their part? Was it career, unbursing career, abortion, fulfilling friendships, all of it, things of that nature?

[C]

It was a whole different set of priorities.

[B]

And do you think that's a result of the sort of the new wave of feminism where a lot of women are being told, hey, look at what women in past generations did to get you the freedom to make all these decisions about your life, to not have to stay home, to be able to get in the workforce? And do you think there's this idea for them of like, I'm letting down past generations of women if I do become a mom and do get married young?

[C]

I don't think it's so much that I think we're buying into a hyper overcorrection of the lie from past generations that said women couldn't work out outside the home or women couldn't have a thriving entrepreneurial career. Now, we believe that if we work outside the home or if we are thriving entrepreneurs, it's impossible for us to also have a family. Those two things are mutually exclusive when, of course, they're not. I'm living proof of that. Most of my friends who are outspoken in the conservative movement are business owners. They have podcasts, they write books, they travel every single week to speak all over the country. I know lawyers and doctors and surgeons and astronauts who have children and just beautiful, beautiful testimony to the fact that women are a lot smarter and a lot stronger than society often gives us credit for.

[B]

I thought you were about to say a lot smarter and stronger than men. Oh, that doesn't sound like an.

[D]

It's a dollar.

[C]

Men could never be moms. Let's be honest. You know this. But it's ironically feminists that are trying to tear you down and place limits on the expectations for your life. And I think young conservatives have a great chance to shatter that narrative.

[B]

You are one of the. I don't wanna toot your horn too much, but you are a guest on my show, so I could do it. You have one of the biggest social media followings among conservative women. What are the biggest criticisms that you get? You touched on it a bit earlier, saying you get pushed back from the mainstream press. What are the things that people try to tear you down on?

[C]

Well, the New York Times has been on a bender the last few weeks and months about how I'm so anti birth control, which is really fascinating. I had lots of bad experiences on birth control for almost nine years, and I'm very transparent about that. But I think they're scared because you're watching this mass exodus from young women across the political spectrum from big pharma and taking this magic pill every day. Certainly, I share a lot about my marriage and my baby and how beautiful that's been for my life and how I also have this thriving career on the side. So for some, I'm two trad wife, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. For others, I'm not quite trad enough because I'm also working at the same time. But I've learned really to tune out all of that criticism and just focus on the race that God has set before me every day, which is hopefully to tell people the truth and encourage the pursuit of what's good and true and beautiful in our culture.

[B]

Again, that's a beautiful message for us to end on. Isabel, thank you so much for coming on. We don't get you on set much.

[C]

I know I gotta come to Nashville,

[B]

so whenever you come, I just throw everything at you because I'm just so fascinated in your take and your perspective on things. So thank you again, Isabel.

[C]

Thanks, Cabot. Appreciate it.

[B]

All right, let's get back to D.C. where Isabel will be heading home to where we've got Daily Wire D.C. bureau Chief Tim Rice standing by for a little rice and beans. Tim Rice, great to see you, man.

[D]

Hey, Cabot. How are we doing, buddy?

[B]

I'm doing great. And. Oh, you're not at home. Usually I get you at home. You got the books in the background, the Dave Matthews Band poster.

[D]

I am not at home. I am not in the office with the Dave Matthews Band poster. I am in an undisclosed location on Capitol Hill, just out here running, running down the stories that Daily Wire audiences need, but obviously had to stop and come on for rice and beans.

[B]

I love that. I very much appreciate your willingness to do that. And it's good for you to remind people. Also, yes, you're the guy who comes on and just yucks it up with me, but you're also like an important Capitol Hill reporter who has sources and has a job. Exactly. All of those things. Paying Daily Wire members are like, I'm paying this guy salary, and what exactly does he do? And you're showing us exactly what you do.

[D]

Okay, if only my job just consisted of hanging out with Cavett.

[B]

But yes, Although I think that my wife is getting to the point where she thinks that my job does just consist of yucking it up with Tim. But anyways, anyways, let's get to the big news that I'm sure is dominating Capitol Hill where you are. That's Graham Platner finally dropping out.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

But I want to get your take on this video that he put out. We're going to talk a little bit later, more in depth on this, but I have to get your take on. On Platner and his decision to ultimately drop out. This is all false. The things that have been claimed did not happen. It's not real. Has placed an immense amount of weight on me as I think about

[D]

what

[B]

needs to happen now. I love the pregnant pause there. He's crying. He's a real man. He's stroking his mustache. What do you think of this, Tim?

[D]

It was the most ridiculous video that I've ever seen. First of all, 11 minutes to paint yourself as the victim, smear your accusers, relitigate things. Only then at the end to say that you're suspending campaign operations, which is just kind of a euphemism. He's not actually dropping out. He's probably going to drop out on Monday. But he's not fully dropping out because he's trying to get that last little bit of money. That's a whole different deal. But what an outrageous, self indulgent even. Even if. Even if every single accusation levied against Graham Platner is entirely false, this video would have been too much. It's just it's unbecoming, it's undignified. If anyone thought that this guy was saying senatorial before now, I think this should completely obliterate that sense. The craziest part of the video, though, for me, I would be remiss if I didn't bring this up is at some point in that 11 minute mishmash, he basically says the establishments, the corporate media and the political elites want me out of this race. So he basically says they accused me of rape because I support things like free healthcare for all Americans. Putting aside, again, the fact that that is just so offensive for these women who have bravely come forward to talk about the horrible treatment they faced at the hands of Graham Platt, that is so demonstrably not false. Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Ed Markey have been the tent poles of the Democratic Party for at least 10 years now. Bernie Sanders almost became the Democratic nominee for president running on Medicare for all in 2020. Everyone, including Joe Biden, had some sort of every Democratic presidential nominee had a Medicare for all plan. It was what you had to do. And this is to say nothing of the Zoran Mamdanis and the Jasmine Crocketts and all the folks out in Michigan, all these new, even more radical, valid Democratic socialist candidates who were coming up. The notion that he is simply being targeted because of his progressive views is both absurd and defensive. And more than that, just again, demonstrably false.

[B]

You brought up something that I think is worth touching on. The fact that Platner came out and said, hey, I'm going to drop out, but he's waiting until Monday. Can you explain why he's waiting until Monday? What happens on Monday, and then explain why you think he's doing that?

[D]

Sure. So Monday is, and I might get the intricacies of this wrong. Maine has one of the craziest primary ballot declaration systems ever, which is part of the reason we're in this situation. The ballot locks in on Monday. So whoever the nominee is, whoever the nominee is on Monday is going to be the nominee who runs against Susan Collins. So whether there's a slight chance that Platner is holding out for some sort of deus ex machina salvation that allows him to stay, I don't think that's necessarily true. Part of it is just to keep the fundraising mechanisms going. Right. I believe he still has an Act Blue page, or there's still campaign places where you could donate this is money that if he, he, I don't know the specifics. Maybe he has A pack or can form a pact where he can take that money with him. At the very least, it can be put back into other progressive candidates in Maine. But the main reason is, and this is again the audacity of this guy. He has demands. He is saying, I will drop out, but the candidate that replaces me has to be just as progressive as me, has to have my stance on health care, on foreign affairs, on whatever other handful of issues this guy is running on. So he is from this position of absolute weakness, lording his remaining on the ballot over the main Democratic Party and to a certain extent the national Democratic Party. He wants to be able to essentially hand pick his successor as if he's retiring gracefully or leaving because of some sort of health problem and wants to appoint a successor. And now that he's being kicked out the back door by any respectable person in Democratic politics, what is the vibe

[B]

on Capitol Hill right now? Are there any senators who are saying, hey, this is a reckoning, we need to start thinking more carefully about who we are putting on the ballot? Or are they just kind of breathing a sigh of relief saying, okay, he's gone and they're not gonna learn anything from him?

[D]

Little bit more. Well, okay, it's definitely the latter. In terms of the public posturing, no one is saying anything just yet. I think part of that is just because Platner and the main Democratic Party, for different reasons, do have everyone in a bit of limbo. Right. So I think that people are. It was astounding as many Democrats came out as swiftly as they did. I will say credit to a lot of them. And specifically Kirsten Gillibrand, who's the chair of the dscc, saying that if Graham Platner remains on the ballot, the party will not be spending money on that race. That was a truly major sign of where the party stands and of how they're not tolerating this. So honestly, that in and of itself is a pretty major statement from Democrats. I think that we're not going to see anything about candidates election. We're seeing it a lot with the pundit class right now. This is something that is being discussed on Ms. Now on cnn, on the blogs, on X. So this is usually how it happens. It'll eventually start percolating up and then honestly, probably not until after the midterms when we go in, when the parties do their postmortems. I think we can expect to hear a lot about this in December. December, right. How do we go wrong? Maybe we should stop just picking people who seem like they have a good vibe without vetting them. But no, right now on the Hill, I think it's mostly a sigh of relief from Democrats or at least a half sigh of relief, a fingers crossed moment. But it is. It's just as this from the beginning this or not from the beginning, but over the past month, this story has developed so rapidly. Some of these revelations, they just come out and things turn on such a dime. So I do think a lot of Democrats in Washington are just keeping their powder dry for the moment.

[B]

I can't help but think that it feels a bit reminiscent of what we saw during the 2024 election where there were all sorts of people calling on Joe Biden to drop out for obvious reasons because of his cognitive decline. Democrats didn't really speak up. It wasn't until that disastrous debate performance when it was obvious that he was going to lose if he stayed on the ticket, that suddenly they found their courage to say, this is wrong. We can't have this anymore. Let's get him off. And maybe I'm a cynic, but I can't help but wonder if Graham Platner were winning by eight or nine points in the polls, if we would still see these same Democrats coming out saying get him off the ticket. I don't know if they deserve too much credit for suddenly getting the guts to say, hey, this terrible man, we need to get him off. Tim, no, it's yeah, go ahead. We have about 45 seconds. I'll let you finish off.

[D]

I was just gonna say that's an incredible point and I do I should immediately correct what you're asterisk what I said, which is that yes, that is good, but no, but the flip side is the fact that we should give the Democrats credit for eventually, a little bit of credit for eventually coming out and doing the right thing. But they don't deserve credit because it took a woman who said I'm still going to vote for him, but also he raped me to get Democrats to finally pull their support. So for Democrats, they basically said there was a level of sexual assault and physical and emotional abuse that willing to tolerate from candidates. It is only either a level of the nature of the crime or the caliber of the accuser of a victim that eventually that's our red line. So not a lot of credit to be given there. Again, just the very little bit of credit for actually stumbling onto the right.

[B]

Move a little credit. That's where we'll end things. Tim rice, Daily Wire D.C. bureau Chief, always a pleasure to have you on, man I appreciate it.

[D]

Always happy to be here, Kevin.

[B]

Well, guys, 10 years ago, conversations about cryptocurrency were typically relegated to online message boards. Maybe you had a friend or two talking about Bitcoin or Ethereum, but it was hardly mainstream. That is no longer the case. Crypto has gone mainstream with a global market cap of more than $2 trillion. Seemingly everyone is getting in on the action, including investors now on Wall Street. But the big question has been how to regulate this industry without stifling innovation. To that point. Throughout the 2024 election, President Trump vowed to make America the crypto capital of the world, comparing the growth of digital currencies to the great American railroad. And now his administration is working to follow through on that promise. Joining us now with more is the man in charge of regulating Wall Street, SEC Chairman Paul Atkins. Mr. Chairman, thank you so much for being here. It's great to have you here.

[E]

It's great to be here.

[B]

Thank you. So I have to ask a question that you might not get a lot on some of the shows you go on, but I think it would be helpful context for our audience to fully understand your role and what it is that your job entails on a day to day basis.

[E]

Okay. Well, sure. So the securities and Exchange Commission is charged by Congress and under our laws to regulate the stock markets and stock exchanges and trading of securities, meaning stocks and bonds and options and that sort of thing. So it's been around since 1934, and this came along in the wake of the big market crash of 1929 and some of the things that were not really pretty that went on on Wall Street. And so Congress and administration back then, the FDR administration set up the sec. So we've been going since then. And so right now we're trying to breathe new life into it and get it back to focusing on growth and innovation rather than other issues that are more ancillary.

[B]

Larry and I know one of the things you are focusing on in particular is cryptocurrency. President Trump said he's going to make America the crypto capital of the world. What does that process look like and why is this important?

[E]

Well, it's hugely important because, you know, as you and your audience know so well, you know, innovation and modernization is so important and so frankly exciting and has so many good potential benefits for all of us. And when you, you know, and in the previous admin, what they essentially did was through regulatory jihad, well, let's just say through regulation, through enforcement, they didn't clarify things enough because all of These products are very new. They don't necessarily fit neatly into a world based in 1930s and 1940s and 1950s way of thinking. And so what we're trying to do now is modernize, clarify, and then transform our rules and regulations to enable it and to invite innovation and people who are innovators back to the United States where they can do it. As the President so well says, you know, here in America, under American laws, for the benefit of American investors and consumers.

[B]

It's such a new technology which makes regulation, I imagine, a pretty complicated task. What are some of the pitfalls that you're looking to avoid and some of the hardest elements of an initiative like this?

[E]

Well, so the whole thing about crypto assets and digital assets is built around the concept of distributed ledger technology, the blockchain, basically. And the prospect of that means that you can have settlement of transactions of assets, so you can have the immediacy of delivery versus payment and receipt versus payment. They're on chain and without paper, without. In the financial markets, time is money and every second is added risk because something could happen to the market or some news that would affect the price. So it's not necessarily like buying or selling your house, because there all these things affect it, but not with the immediacy with financial markets. So the great thing about this is that you can really decrease the risk. You can make things cheaper and faster and more certain for the markets. And that has just so many positive things for making things better prices, more accurate and more certainty around transaction.

[B]

I'm sure you've heard some of the skeptics when it comes to cryptocurrency. There seem to be fewer of them than there were in years past. We've seen some whale investors on Wall street dip their toe in the crypto world. But what is your response when you hear people say that this is a bubble or that cryptocurrency inherently does not have value, so why should we be allowing it onto Wall Street? What do you think when you hear that?

[E]

Well, so I'm agnostic, frankly, about these products. So, I mean, if the market sees utility in it, it'll use it, and then the prices will go up. If there are other things that are more attractive, the market will go away. But what I was talking about here, the distributed ledger technology and blockchain, is so exciting because it is a huge transformation, a huge step forward towards simplicity, towards certainty and getting rid of the paper aspect of things. Things finally, and going into a truly digital age with cryptography. And obviously there are to anything. There are risks and dangers, but, you know, we have to allow people to innovate for the market to work. And unfortunately, in the years past, it's become very much the government kind of imposing its will, choosing winners and losers. We're not into that. We're into letting innovation thrive and then encouraging people to do it here in the United States.

[B]

I went to about 20 President Trump rallies to cover for the Daily Wire. The loudest moment that I heard, I'm not exaggerating, was at the bitcoin conference in Nashville. President Trump got up and he reiterated his pledge to make America the crypto capital. The loudest moment was when he said, I will replace the SEC chairman with an SEC chairman who will actually be pro crypto. The roof blew off of that place. So I know people in the crypto world are very pleased by the things that you're.

[E]

You know what's so funny? If you go back and look at that tape, I wasn't here, unfortunately. I went to Vanderbilt. And so anyway, so I like Nashville a lot. But so the president, he kind of was surprised. He looked up and then he said it again. The whole thing went again. And so that for him was a very memorable moment.

[B]

You could see it happening in real time, I think, where President Trump, there was initially some surprise that he was speaking at this conference. And I spoke to so many people at that conference who were politically agnostic or even liberal who said, I'm a single issue voter when it comes to cryptocurrency. I will vote for any candidate that takes this seriously and bring some continuity. If it takes regulation to have some stability in the markets, that's what I'm okay with. And so that was just a fascinating

[E]

topic, but I think it was one of the decisive factors in the last

[B]

election, especially for young men who we know are predominantly, or at least maybe more likely than other demographics to use crypto. I wanna get now to Trump accounts.

[D]

Okay, great.

[B]

You were in the Oval Office with President Trump. The Trump accounts were announced. There's been a lot of conversation about these things. Just what does this mean for Americans when it comes to their own investing?

[E]

Well, first of all, hats off to the President and to Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessant, to Ted Cruz and other folks in Congress and elsewhere in the administration who really pushed this idea, and then others in the private sector who have been advocating for this for years, and then now philanthropists who are stepping forward. So I think this is a really seminal time in our nation's history. And even better frankly, than Medicare was back in the 1930s, because this is rather than a government program. And obviously we can have a long conversation about Medicare, but this is based in the markets. And it is basically trying to encourage people to have a vested interest in our whole economy from an ownership perspective, so giving people a stake in it. And so going back to, say, Margaret Thatcher, who was a real proponent in Britain for privatization, for the same thing, to let the spread the ownership of companies throughout the population. So people feel like they're invested and then they can really watch through the compounding of their dividends and remaining invested, they can see how that rises over time much more quickly than sticking your money in the bank, much better than sticking it under the mattress. And so it's, it's proven over time. And sure, there are ups and downs in the market, but over the long term, you will reap more benefits than otherwise.

[B]

I just set up a Trump account for one of my sons and it was very easy to do. The app was great. But I had a moment as I was doing this thinking, why can't this be Social Security? Why do we have to have a public fund for Social Security where I'm not seeing these types of returns? Would you support more of this for more Americans, not just for young children?

[E]

Well, you know, other countries are realizing that they can't afford a Social Security system like what we have, because basically with the declining birth rate, so you have fewer young people. I mean, basically the pyramid is like inverted now from what it was back in the 1930s. And so you have fewer working people supporting an economy, expanding a greater population. So people of, you know, my age and older, and so that's really the rub. And so that's why some people say, oh, this is a Ponzi scheme, because there is, but it's not. It's government funded. The taxpayers are obviously the ones at the end who step into it. But that's what's so exciting about Trump accounts, because we can. And other countries are doing this. Australia for one, and the president at the Oval Office talked about that. So Social Security is. This takes nothing away from that system. But this adds another thing. So government employees have a similar type of way of saving for the long term for retirement. People in many parts of the private sector, 401 plans, people who are self employed, have their own kind of tax advantage savings plans. So this basically sets it up for people from birth so that now the ones who are born in 25, 26, 27, 28, the government will put in $1,000 to help stake that. But everyone else who are under 18, they can set up a trump account and then can put their own money in it. Their parents can put money in it, their employer can put money in it. And so over time they can see then again the compounding of the dividends that are paid and the accumulation of value that goes into it. When they get to be 18, then they can roll it over into a traditional IRA plan, Roth IRA, things like that, depending on their status. But anyway, it's a really exciting, I think, moment in American history. And one last thing, just be patriotic about this because we're just past the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence signing. So we have to remember this is in our DNA. Investing is really part of our nation's DNA because America was an investment before it was a nation. So when the settlers were coming from Europe, from England, from France, from the Netherlands, there were joint stock companies that were set up to help fund this and they raised capital from stockholders and sometimes it was quite work like famously the Roanoke Colony that we think washed away by a hurricane or whatever in North Carolina, but then Jamestown came, New Amsterdam, now New York and so, and then the French up in, you know, other parts of the country, New Orleans and whatnot. So anyway, so all of those things really set the basis for how America grew. The railroads, the canals, all of these things were funded by Europeans and by Americans.

[B]

I have one more question for you. We've seen this rise of socialism and also this developing vitriol towards wealth in general and this idea that markets only benefit the wealthy, when in reality we know the majority of Americans own some form of stock. But it's this hatred of accumulation of wealth which for a long time has been a cornerstone of America capitalism. And we're now seeing the result of this. In California, for example, voters in November are going to be deciding on a so called wealth tax. This would be a one time 5% tax on anyone with more than a billion dollar net worth. Not an income tax, as you know, not an income tax, a tax on net worth that would include a 5% tax on people who have a lot of stock. If a tax like that passed in California and in other states we saw follow suit. What sort of reaction do you see that tax or impact do you see that having on the markets?

[E]

Well, we'll see. I mean, first of all it'll be challenged, I'm sure in court and everything else, but it really is antithetical to everything that the United States stands for. And what has made our country great. So, you know, I have confidence that something like that, you know, will not prevail in the United States and that it's a fringe type of idea. And I mean, God help us if it does become the majority view because then I think we will be stagnating. Look at Europe, look at the socialist mentality. It cannot keep up with Adam Smith's invisible hand. And people who are hardworking and want to recognize the benefits of their hard work and their investment. And so I think that is at essence what has driven America and made us have the greatest capital market in the world. We're now 50% of all the world's market capitalization. And growing companies want to come here. And so our job at the SEC is to try to drive that forward, to encourage it, encourage innovation, and then help entrepreneurs build great companies. And we see really a lot of examples of that recently of companies like that going public.

[B]

And may we always stay that way. I do have one final quick question for you. How often do people assume that you are the chairman of the Southeastern Conference? And does that get frustrating?

[D]

No.

[E]

Well, it's pretty hilarious because, I mean, this goes back, but if I go through like the security checkpoint at the airport and they see SEC on my bag, oh, I'd like to have a ticket. Can you get me a ticket? The security person, I said, I don't think you want the ticket that I can give you because that's more like a cop and you may go to jail even and whatnot.

[B]

So I was saying at the beginning, I said, I'm sure there were some college football fans who were at our guest list today and thought one thing and I said no. But I told some other folks, I said, much more important than some college football and some college sports. Much more important. What you're doing and what other people.

[E]

Depends on the weekend.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. We are in the south, so I can't say that he was a Vanderbilt guy as well. Mr. Chairman, thank you so much for making time.

[D]

It's great.

[B]

Fascinating to be here.

[E]

Well, thank you very much.

[B]

Absolutely.

[E]

Good to see you.

[B]

That was SEC Chairman Paul Atkins. Great to have Chairman Atkins here in studio. It's official, as Tim and I were talking about earlier, Maine Democrat Graham Platner, he's finally dropped his bid for senate in that 11 minute teary eyed video. And I want to get some more reaction from our good friend Bhatia Ungar Sargon, host of the show. Bhatia, go watch it right now. Bhatia, great to See you.

[F]

Thank you so much for having me. It's so great to be here with you.

[B]

Just having your smiling face on the show is always a delight. So we played a clip of this video earlier. Again, 11 minutes long. He's making himself out to be the victim, saying, well, really, it's the establishment's fault that I am no longer on the ticket. What did you think of his statement in this whole saga?

[F]

It was so amazing, the level of self pity that this person has. It was just beyond. I mean, didn't take an ounce of responsibility. Which of course tracks because the Democratic Party that backed him to the hilt when they knew about the Nazi tattoo and knew that he had roughed up his girlfriend and knew that he had mocked veterans and knew that he cheated on his wife with 12 women on an app known for being a predator's paradise, all this, they backed him and backed him and backed him. But then he committed the one sin that a Democrat will not forgive. He started tanking in the polls.

[B]

Yep.

[F]

So they knew that the next crime, the next scandal, and they were all gonna drop him like yesterday's garbage, which is exactly what happened.

[B]

Now Democrats are already playing the blame game in Washington. Some of them are trying to push this off on the establishment, some are trying to push this off on whoever his advisors were and Morris Katz and these folks. Who do you think actually is to blame for a guy like this nearly making it to the U.S. senate?

[F]

I mean, every person for whom a Nazi tattoo was not a deal breaker, that's it. I mean, for 10 years they called us Nazis and then they went and backed a guy with an actual Nazi tattoo. Zero forgiveness. I'm sorry, but it's like every person who defended him after the story about Lindsey Fifield came out that he had roughed her up. Apparently it's me too. But only believe all women if they're Republicans. I mean, every single one of their pieties that for decades they used to portray themselves as morally superior to conservatives, they threw in the dustbin for this guy. And for what? Why? Because a bunch of rich, effeminate, overeducated Nepo babies looked at him and said, this is a real man. This is a working class person. They have nothing but disgust for working class people. So they found a disgusting human and thought, wow, this person is working class. This is what the working class wants. And it was all farce. And of course, the polling showed that working class people were 20 points less likely than people with a college education to say that Graham Platner had a Good character. Because while the elite saw a working class person, working class people saw a scumbag. I mean, this whole thing could not have played out better in terms of exposing exactly who the Democrats are.

[B]

Yeah. It is almost patronizing in a way of them saying, hey, we're gonna get this guy that really relates to the working class. And then they pick someone with these terrible values. Do you think there are any lessons that are gonna be learned here? Do you think that this causes the Democratic Party to sort of second guess, propping up these kinds of radical candidates in the future? Or are they gonna view this as an anomaly and keep chugging that way?

[F]

Alas, I do not think any lessons will be learned. I do think the electorate is gonna learn some lessons here. I will be surprised if the stench of Graham Plattner does not rub off on another deplorable Abdul El Sayed running in Michigan. Because of course, he's being run by the same folks and the same outfits. It's really amazing because Graham Platner, who was supposed to be the paragon of the working class, lives off the government and off of his rich parents. And that's who the DSA is. Right. In that sense, he is completely typical of who the far left are and thus embodies the real problem that the Democrats have, which is they think working class people are Nazi rapists. Right. So they found a Nazi alleged rapist and we're like, we're gonna run with him. I do not think they're gonna learn any lessons. You haven't seen a single person actual take responsibility, not just for we were lied to.

[E]

Right.

[F]

They'll say that. But no, the taking responsibility is saying, like, I forgave the red flags until it became too obvious. Right. Not one person on the left has done that. In fact, the opposite. You're seeing left wing media figures literally casting aspersions on the rape victim. It is so disgusting. Ryan Grimm at Dropsite News was out there saying they didn't publish in the story the text message that the rape victim sent to Graham Platner before he came over. Before she said, don't come over. She said, apparently I need to get a massage, but please don't come over. The leftist media is out there saying somehow this makes things better from Graham Platner. It's horrifying.

[B]

One final question, Bhatia. They're going to replace him on the ballot. That will come on Monday, once he formally submits his papers. Of course, he's waiting till the last possible minute. But do you think that there are still Platner loyalists who are going to be angry at the Democratic Party for what they view as kind of forcing him off the ticket and throwing him overboard. And do you think there will be enough Democratic voters in Maine who say, hey, I'm not gonna vote for whoever you pick because he's not my guy? And what kind of impact do you think that could have on the campaign?

[F]

I definitely think there are people like that. But I gotta say, like, I'm a little bit of a, like Susan Collins, truther. I never thought she was in trouble. I never thought she was in dange. Susan Collins brings home the bacon. She's beloved by a lot of people who will not admit that to a pollster. She's exactly what people in Maine want in a senator. She brings home billions of dollars to her state. So I just never really thought she was in danger, and I certainly think so less now.

[B]

Well, that could be your new Twitter bio. Susan Collins, truther. I don't know if you need any advice on what to do there. Bhatia, thank you so much for joining us today. We really appreciate having you.

[F]

Thank you so much. God bless and protect you. Thanks for having me.

[B]

Thank you, Bhatia. All right, guys, we are gonna get to a little Q and A with my twin brother, a man named Hudson Phillips. But you can only join the Q and A if you're a Daily Wire member. So go to dailywire.com subscribe, start getting your questions in. For my brother, I might regret doing this because he might spill the proverbial beans on me like rice and beans. But if you're on Apple or Spotify, thank you so much for tuning in, and I will see all of you on Monday.