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- [00:01]
Charlie Ford
I am nominated for MILF Performer of the Year.
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Interviewer
How do you feel about MILF Performer of the Year?
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Charlie Ford
I may have a midlife crisis in front of everyone on stage if I actually win that one.
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Interviewer
And why is that?
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Charlie Ford
Well, because I don't look 35 and I don't have kids and so a lot of people see me and they don't equate MILF to me.
- [00:20]
Interviewer
Charlie Ford is standing in the kitchen of a drab townhouse in a suburban estate on the outskirts of the dry Las Vegas desert and talking about the demands of motherh or milfhood. The Aussie performer is crashing here on a friend's couch in the lead up to the Adult Video News Porn Awards. She rubs her eyes, exhausted after a night of partying with her porn star pals, and runs a hand through her blonde hair. There's oil stained pizza boxes stacked up on the counter. A quick and easy midweek meal for a busy working milf.
- [01:01]
Charlie Ford
I think the term MILF is morphine over time. And I think with porn these days, it's not that specific look anymore. Like it's a lot of different body types and people that are cast as a milf because you can be a stepmom and have a kid, you know, inverted commas, kid. Who is like a similar age to you these days.
- [01:19]
Interviewer
When were you first cast as a milf?
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Charlie Ford
I don't remember. I honestly don't remember. Probably very early on in my career. Two years ago.
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Interviewer
And what's usually involved in like the, in the MILF movies? What's the general plot?
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Charlie Ford
It varies. No, it can still be a very varied category, but you have to have a stepmom and you have to have a stepson. Basically. There's like the basics of it. Yeah.
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Interviewer
Picture this. It's 1999. You're inside a packed cinema and one unforgettable line about Stifler's mom is about to shift the culture and accidentally birth an empire. That's Stifler's mom?
- [01:59]
Molly Manning
Yep.
- [02:01]
Jennifer White
Shit.
- [02:02]
Interviewer
I cannot believe a fine woman like this produced a guy like Stifler. Dude, I took some milf. What the hell's that? M I L F Mom I'd like to fuck. Yeah. Oh yeah. American Pie didn't just give us cringe comedy, it gifted the world a cheeky four letter acronym that would go on to dominate search engines, bankroll thousands of content creators and become a global fantasy. The MILF craze went from teenage dream to business model faster than you could say warm apple pie. The sexy mother category consistently ranks in the top searches across adult platforms. On pornhub, one of the largest X rated websites in the world, the MILF genre was the most viewed category for 2024, up four places from the previous year. It seems people are crying out for mummies. With this demand, many young female performers are being ushered into milfh time they're 30. It's seen as the inevitable next step in a porn career, Whether it's through the studio system or subscription platforms like Onlyfans. Apparently you can't stay an ingenue forever. You need to grow up. For someone like Bonnie Blue, who at 25 has become notorious for sleeping with barely legal boys, she seems born to play the role. Is that even in her plan, it doesn't really matter. As Charlie Ford says, becoming a MILF can happen by accident. This is what to expect when you're not quite expecting.
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Molly Manning
My name is Molly Manning, I'm 49 years old and I am the real mum to a 16 year old boy and I am a porn star.
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Interviewer
And what genre do you specialise in?
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Molly Manning
I guess what I am is like a mum, you know, milf, mum, cougar. The genre that I do is that mummy fantasy milf.
- [04:31]
Interviewer
While transforming from fresh faced starlet to MILF is a supercharged pathway for a lot of performers in their 20s and 30s. They're now also competing with genuine milfs, middle aged women with actual kids, bills to pay and a lust to thrust. This is all thanks in part to the surging popularity of the genre and the rise of amateur online platforms. For real life mums like Molly Manning, they are milking it.
- [05:02]
Molly Manning
It's brought in a whole bunch of people into the space that I think the public likes, you know, to see, you know, a traditional, normal looking sort of mum that can be super naughty.
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Interviewer
This Aussie mum swoops her mess of brassy curls out of her smooth round face as she talks. She pushes up the sleeves of her camel coloured cashmere top, revealing a tattoo on her right arm. The cursive font spells out one word, her son's name. Her shiny red acrylic fingernails tap on the timber table in the courtyard of this coffee shop as she sips her latte.
- [05:41]
Molly Manning
Well, I'll be honest, I've always been pretty vain. I actually had a facelift in August, I went to Turkey, so I had a necklift and a facelift. So I'm still recovering from swollen. It was really cheap. It would have cost me at least $30,000 here. I paid like 5,800 US in Istanbul and I'm actually going to go back and have a bbl. I've had my boobs done and stuff. Yeah. If I keep myself in good shape, I don't see why I couldn't be doing this for another 15 years, to be honest.
- [06:09]
Interviewer
This is Molly's second year at the porn expo. She's taking a well earned break from the commitments of motherhood and milfhood to chat with me. She's still technically a newcomer to the biz. It was a midlife career pivot. She moved to LA from Australia in 2008 with her son and was working as a Pilates instructor. But she had a dream.
- [06:34]
Molly Manning
I wanted to be an actress. Not a pornographic actress, a normal actress. I think in the back of my mind I would always have been happy to be in a drama with some good dialogue and some hardcore sex. I would have been okay with that. But. And obviously pornos, it's all centred around the sex.
- [06:51]
Interviewer
It was towards the end of 2021 when things took a turn.
- [06:55]
Molly Manning
A lot of people had said to me, oh, you know this Onlyfans, you should try OnlyFans. But I didn't really know what it was about and it wasn't easy to find information out about it. You know, I think like the first month, I don't know what I'm doing.
- [07:08]
Interviewer
You said people in your life started telling you that you should do OnlyFans. What prompted them to tell you that?
- [07:13]
Molly Manning
Well, I was working as a Pilates instructor, but then it was during the pandemic when I wasn't really doing anything. I've always been really confident and comfortable with myself. Like when I was a kid, I was always running around naked. My mum was always like, put some clothes on. But there was nothing sexual about that, you know what I mean? It was just. I just like being naked. When I got on Onlyfans, I was single, so I did have a boyfriend and we dated for a few years and it just had a really disastrous ending because I discovered he was on Craigslist doing homosexual stuff with like older men. And it was really weird. It was so strange. So. But actually when I say that, like, we probably were very well suited together, but he didn't want to. There was no room for him for me to do that. Like it was for him to be doing all that sort of stuff in secret. And so that's why it didn't work.
- [07:57]
Interviewer
With no boyfriend and no contacts in the amateur porn industry, how did she recruit guys to film with?
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Molly Manning
In the beginning I. There's a Couple of people in some of my sober meetings that I just shot content with because there's always a bunch of guys.
- [08:14]
Interviewer
So you met some guys in your sober meetings, like aa. And then how did the conversation start?
- [08:19]
Molly Manning
Um, I. Well, I'm. I'm pretty. I'm pretty blunt and straight out with it, which is I. I appreciate. I think I just asked, you know, like, would you be interested in shooting some content with me? And like, yes. Most of them were, yes.
- [08:34]
Interviewer
How sex positive is your household?
- [08:37]
Molly Manning
I think we're pretty positive. I said to my son, I'll buy you a. A pocket pussy or something for. For your birthday. Like, I have sat down with him distinctly and made sure that he understands that pornography and that, you know, it's a performance. And so I've sort of tried to get him to know that that's probably not what women really want, you know, because he's a virgin and, you know, I think a lot of young men watch a lot of porn and I think they maybe get a bit distorted about what's real and what's not. So I just really wanted him to know that that was not, you know, what usually normally goes on, I don't think, with people.
- [09:16]
Interviewer
Do kids at his school or do his friends know?
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Molly Manning
I don't think so. I don't think so.
- [09:20]
Interviewer
Has he ever mentioned it to you?
- [09:22]
Molly Manning
He has not mentioned it and then when I tried to talk to him about it, he just changed the subject.
- [09:26]
Interviewer
What are the conversations that you've had with him about your career?
- [09:29]
Molly Manning
Well, I know his father has said many derogatory things about me, you know, having OnlyFans account and this and that. So aside from those things, he hasn't really said very much. I mean, he knows I have. I have an OnlyFans. Obviously he does not know me as Molly Manning. He knows me as something else, his mum. I did mention to him that I had been shooting mainstream pornography and he just changed the subject. So I can only assume he probably doesn't really want to have a conversation with his mum about it. And I think that if he does want to have a conversation about it, then he's welcome to. But I don't think it would be fair of me to keep pushing something that I can see he doesn't particularly feel comfortable to talk about. I just sort of made him aware that, you know, sex work doesn't make you a bad person. You know, my opinion's not paying child support, you know, lying, stealing, murdering, thieving, those kinds of things make you a bad person.
- [10:23]
Interviewer
Usually on A weekday morning like this, Molly would be up at 6am and making her son Vegemite toast in the kitchen of their North Hollywood home before driving him to school. And then she'd be off to work filming content that ranges from shaving her legs in the shower to gang bangs. While there have been some months where she has managed to rake in between $5,000 and $15,000 on OnlyFans, things have not been as lucrative with her professional studio scenes.
- [10:56]
Molly Manning
So the studios, I don't think, pay you very well. I was told that they haven't had a pay rise for quite a long time. It will depend. You could be paid $1300 for a scene, you could be paid $1500. It depends. So different studios will pay you a different amount. And it probably depends on as well. Like if you have a name, for example, I'm assuming like Angela White. People that have been around a long time and are really well known, I'm assuming they get paid a lot more. But it depends. Yeah, you get paid so that the least amount of pay you get is straight boy, girl, and then you get more as the scale goes up. You know, there's girl, boy, boy, boy, girl, girl, double penetration, double vaginal, all those sorts of things. Anal.
- [11:38]
Interviewer
And how far up the scale have you gone?
- [11:41]
Molly Manning
Oh, so I've shot two anal professional scenes, I think.
- [11:44]
Interviewer
And how much did they pay?
- [11:47]
Molly Manning
I think like two grand. $2,500. It's not that much because you just basically sign away all your rights to it. But my understanding thinking about it like in the bigger picture is they do a ton of marketing and they do a very good job at pushing you out there. So my idea with that is the idea to try to find new fans.
- [12:06]
Interviewer
And it's that quest for eyeballs that makes it an around the clock job. Here at the Expo, amateur creators line the hallways, standing at booths and doing anything they can to get their names out there, even if it means selling car bumper stickers emblazoned with their website address. Across the week, Molly is scheduled to clock into a booth and hawk her wares.
- [12:33]
Molly Manning
My job predominantly as an OnlyFans creator is about, in my opinion, 85% marketing and sales, 15% making the content. So primarily that's the job. It's a lot of work really because I started off coming from no base. As I said, I'm not a social media person really, but you know, having to grow social media, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, all of those things. I think I have around maybe 500,000.
- [12:59]
Interviewer
Followers who is your average fan.
- [13:02]
Molly Manning
I would say my fan is predominantly a male with a penis.
- [13:07]
Interviewer
As Molly starts to shoot more scenes for professional porn studios, she's now competing with younger performers who are also getting cast as milfs.
- [13:17]
Molly Manning
I believe in porn, I think if you're over the age of 23, you could be a MILF. And so, yeah, they're not casting real MILFs. There's a lot of women cast in porno don't have any children at all. But I do think that nowadays with, like, a lot of these performers and things becoming quite big stars, I think. I think that the market also drives things, because I've heard one director that I know that I've shot a lot with, he's like, I don't know if the market's driving this or we're pushing it upon people, you know, with all the fossas, because it's so popular and it's so bizarre, you know, I mean, you're in a scene and, you know, I'm there with my daughter and my granddaughter and my grandson, and then we're suddenly having an orgy, you know, I mean, like, I get a personal kick out of it because it's just so wrong and I know it would never happen. So it's funny for me, right, that's where I get my little jollies. But, you know, it's just they're so absurd. I think sometimes what happens is the fantasy just takes over because, you know, as much as I have a teenage son and I'm 100% sure that every teenage boy is horny all the time, there's a definite line when you're someone's mum, right? So there's a lot of people that fantasize about that stuff. But for me personally, obviously, that's just a line that I would never cross.
- [14:31]
Interviewer
What do you mean by that?
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Molly Manning
Oh, I just mean that there's, you know, I get a ton of messages asking, oh, you know, I know that you walk around in front of your son naked, you know, he must have a. Surely he has a boner. Or, you know, just things like that, which, like, they're. When you're a parent, like, there's just nothing sexual about that. But I get when people are fantasizing about it, it's like a fine line where they may be. There's a lot of fantasies, I think, that shouldn't be brought to reality.
- [14:57]
Interviewer
What are some of the requests that you get from your fans?
- [15:03]
Molly Manning
So there's a lot of the mummy fantasy, a lot of, like, the wanting to call you Mummy, which, you know, I, I, in my mind, I get it because I feel like, you know, your mother is nurturing and, and, you know, loving and kind, and I guess we all suck on a breast right when we're little, if we're lucky. I, I understand that kind. You know, like, as a man, your first point of reference for a female is your mother. So, you know, if you have a good relationship with your mother, it is a pretty good indicator that you should have good relationships with women. And in my experience, which is like with my son's father, he has a terrible relationship with his mother. He hates his mother, and I can see that. And even, you know, my son turned around and said to me, I don't think my dad likes women. So, you know, that's. I don't know where the mummy fantasy stems from. I mean, I've had some men tell me that they have. One guy told me he fucked his mother, like, a few times. And I just asked was that as a child or as an adult? And he said it was an adult. And I, you know, I find that quite strange, to be honest. I find it very strange. I guess people don't know where the line goes with fantasy and reality when.
- [16:22]
Interviewer
It comes to porn. That line Molly talks about is different for everyone. Living out a fantasy, exploring kinks and taboos and occasionally outraging society. Bondage, furries, voyeurism. The list of niche and erotic categories is endless. But even some people who work in porn are raising an eyebrow.
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Inka Winter
When I've asked men that are into it, their only answer is, like, the taboo of it. And I feel like there must be something else, but obviously I find it.
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Sika Black
Very unappealing.
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Inka Winter
My name is Inka Winter. I'm the director at Foreplay Films, which is an ethical feminist company making porn for women by women.
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Interviewer
You seem really uncomfortable when the talk of the genre comes up. Can you tell me what emotions it makes you feel?
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Inka Winter
Yeah, it's like cringy to me. I think it's cringy on many levels because I feel like a. I feel like it's cringy as the audience. Then I feel like I know so many talent that's doing it that it's sort of like it's kind of. Everybody's, like, tired of it. I think this is probably the bit that, like, is the cringiest bit. If you think about the statistics of how females, especially young females and girls are being sexually harassed and hurt, it is in a family context. So on a weird level, this is Portraying something that's a real life issue. And yeah, I think that's also kind of cringey to me.
- [18:14]
Interviewer
When you were on the hunt for some porn to watch, what did you see that was on offer that wasn't quite connecting with you?
- [18:21]
Inka Winter
Yeah, I think it's just sort of. I think when people think of porn, there's like, this image that's in their head and it's just something that's, like, overly lit. There's no sort of, like, atmosphere. There's not a lot of communication between talent. And if there's communication, it's about things.
- [18:43]
Interviewer
Like pizza in cheesy dialogue.
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Inka Winter
Yeah, cheesy dialogue. Or, you know, now the whole step thing.
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Interviewer
What's the step thing?
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Inka Winter
Oh, stepfather, step, sister, step. Anyway, but so then I think also a lot of the times in those kinds of scenes, female talent, like, over performs. So it just feels. Well, I mean, it doesn't just feel fake, it is fake. So I, as a female watcher, I'm like, looking at the female talent and what she's experiencing. And if that looks not pleasurable to me and sometimes even maybe potentially painful to me, then my body just sort of like, you know, cringes and sort of tightens and I'm like. And so then I cannot enjoy what I'm seeing. I also don't want to, like, sound like I have this being very judgmental. And then also I'm like, yeah, but I'm also. I mean, so I'm also a sex educator and counselor. And I've, like, you know, been in therapy myself for, like, a number of years. I grew up in a, you know, sex cult. Where I grew up, like, sex was like, very without emotion. It was kind of mandated. Like, relationships were prohibited. And it was a very sort of like, male centric, stereotypical idea of how sex should be had. And so while that's not why I started to make porn, the more I think about it, it's obviously kind of what I make is the exact opposite of what I witnessed as a child. I think about society because what I do I see as, like, activism. Right. So I just think about these concepts a lot. And I feel like if I say that I make feminist, ethical porn, like, I have to think about what that means to me and why am I doing this and why is it needed. And I think, like, a big part of why I think it's needed is to kind of crush the stereotypical gender roles and sort of like what the female prescribed role in sex is.
- [20:59]
Interviewer
Inka can't seem to wrap her head around the popularity of MILFs and the family fantasy. But she also doesn't want to yuck another person's yum.
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Inka Winter
The question is, does it hurt anybody? You know, and I feel like it doesn't. I don't like, you know, there's.
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Jennifer White
There's.
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Inka Winter
There's a lot of porn that's gonna make me cringe for all different reasons. Right.
- [21:37]
Interviewer
Down at a booth on the floor of the expo, Molly, the milf, is getting scolded by security for revealing too much flesh.
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Molly Manning
I was just told off because apparently my nipples were seeing showing through.
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Interviewer
You're wearing a kind of sheer leotard.
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Molly Manning
I believe the dress code is a little stricter this year.
- [21:56]
Interviewer
I'm smelling a lot of weed in the air.
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Molly Manning
So it's actually illegal to have weed in a casino because I was asked to leave a casino once for smoking pot.
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Interviewer
I can see here at the stall, there is a skateboard with a very sexy photo of you emblazoned across it. Are you spruiking skateboards now?
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Molly Manning
Yes. So I did a merchandise collaboration. I have T shirts, we have air fresheners. I have a skateboard. I have a poster.
- [22:21]
Interviewer
And are you signing them?
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Molly Manning
Yes.
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Interviewer
How many units have you moved today?
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Molly Manning
I haven't moved any units today. I'm pretty shy, actually. I am not the sort of person that wants to walk into a room and everybody look at me. I'm the kind of person that wants to walk into the room and slink around and just kind of observed how much of your.
- [22:39]
Interviewer
Your porn Persona is just that, a Persona.
- [22:42]
Molly Manning
I would say that, you know, in my. My real, true Persona, I have a couple of personalities. You know what I mean? I genuinely really like sex. So I. It's. Yeah, it's just you have a different role for whatever you're doing at that time of the day. I think, you know, you, like, I'm in mom mode or I'm in, you know what, whatever, other mode, work mode.
- [23:04]
Interviewer
Or speaking of work mode, Molly's calendar is full up this week. Right now, she's trying to sprug promotional mousepads with her face on them. Tonight, after clocking in hours at the booth, she's planning on filming a gang bang. And tomorrow morning, she'll be up bright and early to film with another creator in her motel room. That's just life as a single working milf, and the grind never stops. Molly thinks she can keep this gig going for another 15 years, but it could go even further. Across the room from Molly, her potential future is staring back at her.
- [23:47]
Sika Black
My name is Sika Black. I'm 70 years old, and I'm a MILF. I have five daughters and then 11 grandchildren and five great grandchildren, and I love to do porn.
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Interviewer
With her short blonde bob and demure makeup, Sika looks like the mum from the Brady bunch who's planning a special night alone with Mr. Brady while Alice babysits the children.
- [24:14]
Sika Black
I'm into interracial.
- [24:16]
Molly Manning
Yep.
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Sika Black
Guy, guy. And then, of course, I will do girl, girl, guy. And then we also do gang bangs. And then I also have cuckold.
- [24:28]
Interviewer
Speaking of that, is that your husband who's sitting behind you?
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Sika Black
Yes, it is.
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Interviewer
What's his name?
- [24:32]
Sika Black
James.
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Interviewer
And what are his thoughts on your career pivot at this stage in your life?
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Sika Black
Oh, he loves it. He actually got me into this direction. Let's see here. He taught me swinging. He actually videoed me and put me on the porn websites, and that's when my career took off.
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James
I was doing video of her anyway, and everybody said, you know, these are great. You should publish this stuff and make some money. So we decided that's what we were going to do.
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Interviewer
Does the idea of creating porn with your wife, does it still turn you on or is it all.
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James
Oh, yeah, absolutely. I get to edit all the video by myself in a. In a quiet room. Need I say more? I'm a natural voy. So if I'm watching sex, that turns me on. And watching sex, her having sex is even better.
- [25:26]
Sika Black
When we started, it was like he saw how excited I got with black men and he loved watching, so that's how he started videoing.
- [25:34]
Interviewer
So it's a real family business.
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Sika Black
Oh, yes.
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Interviewer
Has anyone else in your family ever wanted to follow in your footsteps?
- [25:41]
Sika Black
I have already got a daughter that is. She's my. My gay girl. I am more with guys and mixing with interracial with black men, where she likes to stay with females.
- [25:53]
Interviewer
Does she ever ask you for tips?
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Sika Black
Oh, I'm asking her for tips.
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Interviewer
What kind of tips are you asking her?
- [26:01]
Sika Black
How does she promote herself on these websites, for one thing, or the Instagram TikTok all the other ones? I'm not versed in all those areas, so she helps me out there.
- [26:14]
Interviewer
Sika and her husband James have traveled to Las Vegas from their home in Florida to meet her young male fans. Like this fellow.
- [26:23]
Molly Manning
Probably started masturbating when I was about.
- [26:25]
Interviewer
12 years old, sneaking into my uncle's bin of porn. Big, natural tits, cool blonde hair. And Sika has also come to town hoping to nab A win. She's nominated at the awards later this week in the category for niche performer of the year. I ask her to describe what her niche is as a milf.
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Sika Black
Oh, usually it's. It starts out the stepson is where he's actually found my porn from a college best friend. And as he shows him on his phone and says, hey, this is your grandma or your, your mom, your stepmom. Did you know about this? And then of course he'll come back home and blackmail me because his dad doesn't know about it. So then he'll be peeking through the door, watching me get undressed. That's another scene where I'm getting ready to shower. Things like that, those are really exciting. They're fun.
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Interviewer
And does it, I mean, does that fantasy turn you on or is it all work for you?
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Sika Black
Oh, it's. It turns me on.
- [27:42]
Molly Manning
Coming. Hi.
- [27:47]
Interviewer
Hey Molly.
- [27:48]
Molly Manning
Good morning.
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Interviewer
Molly Manning, the Aussie milf, is fussing around her ground floor motel room that's across the road from the casino where the porn expo is taking place.
- [27:58]
Molly Manning
I'm fucking pissed off.
- [28:00]
Interviewer
She's tired and irritated.
- [28:02]
Molly Manning
So it's 8 o'. Clock. I am meant to have a collab with a gentleman at 9am and he's cancelled. So yeah, I am annoyed mostly because people should respect other people's time.
- [28:16]
Interviewer
She tugs at the waistband of her skin tight green leather pants and stomps into the bathroom.
- [28:22]
Molly Manning
I'm just going to get my, put my makeup on because I just want to get ready so I'm like, you know, hair and makeup ready to go.
- [28:28]
Interviewer
She grabs a powder brush and tries to furiously dust away any signs of her late night. She was working a double shift. After leaving the booth at the expo, she went to a guy's place to film content.
- [28:42]
Molly Manning
I initially had thought I wanted to shoot a gang bang because I don't have any of that kind of content for my private sites.
- [28:47]
Interviewer
It was supposed to be an orgy, but those plans didn't eventuate either. She's kind of glad I was in.
- [28:55]
Molly Manning
My mind, kind of dreading it. Oh, I'm, you know, gonna do a five guy gang bang was, yeah, it was a little too much and I realized just, you know, feeling, feeling the effects of the expo. I decided that it was probably not a good idea because I need to walk, walk today and you know, walk around all day and, and just, yeah, I don't want to be impaled.
- [29:18]
Interviewer
Instead, she shot something a little more conservative with one guy, but not in a bedroom.
- [29:25]
Molly Manning
We improvised and we Shot it on the pool table. I think he had a 12 inch penis. I mean, I didn't have a measuring stick, but yeah, it was a big, it was a really big.
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Interviewer
She got a few hours sleep, woke up before 6am and ate a sausage McMuffin only to have today's plans scrapped.
- [29:43]
Molly Manning
It's just annoying when people cancel, you know, just. I don't know, it's like my pet peeve when people cancel without any kind of consideration that you've allocated time for something.
- [29:53]
Interviewer
And how often does this happen?
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Molly Manning
It happens pretty regularly.
- [30:00]
Interviewer
On a mission to add a gangbang video to her OnlyFans portfolio, she tried recruiting her friend, a fellow MILF named Piper Press, who's also in Vegas this week. She declined.
- [30:17]
Molly Manning
Piper, she was a bit like, oh. She's like, everyone is just there's such sluts at avn. And she's like, I don't want to catch a disease. A lot of people, it's like a free for all. So, you know, if you're shooting with 10 different people in a week, might be a chance you'll come home with something. And like. Yeah. I'd caught chlamydia three times in my first year of porn.
- [30:37]
Interviewer
Oh, you didn't, you didn't say that.
- [30:38]
Molly Manning
I caught chlamydia three times. I'm nearly 50 and I'd have had chlamydia once in my entire adult life and I got it. So I've had it four times now, but I had it three times in 12 months and it was from. Yeah, has to have been because I wasn't really having any other sex. It could have been from collabs up here, but it was people in the industry.
- [30:58]
Interviewer
Molly takes a step back and assesses herself in the mirror, contorting her body into poses and tugging at the fabric of her shirt.
- [31:08]
Molly Manning
I want to go to get a bbl. Yes. So I feel like I've gained a bunch of weight around my midsection, which is what I want them to suck out.
- [31:16]
Interviewer
She tosses her hive of curly red hair from side to side and angles her face towards the harsh glow of the fluorescent bathroom light. She's self conscious. Some inflammation remains from her recent facelift.
- [31:31]
Molly Manning
I still have swelling around here and I had a hematoma when I had it, so one of my sides of my face was a bit more swollen. It's very subtle, it's not a lot but like I can see a little bit. I'm sure a doctor would be notice it, but it just takes a while.
- [31:47]
Interviewer
To settle in with this morning's collaboration cancelled, Molly attempts to muster up the enthusiasm to film some solo videos. After all, as a DIY creator, she needs to ensure she's continually pumping out content that keeps her subscribers handing over their monthly payments, trying to work out.
- [32:08]
Molly Manning
How to improvise, because I definitely could take photos. I could definitely make, you know, little videos myself. There's a whole bunch of things that I could do on my own. I was like, okay, so if now the other person is not gonna come, I might as well just get ready and then, you know, just try to just vibe myself into a good mood.
- [32:35]
Interviewer
As a single mum who makes a living as a milf, Molly says every aspect of her day is carefully timed to accommodate her son. She can't help but give some motherly advice to the flaky performers she often collaborates with.
- [32:51]
Molly Manning
As a mother, I mean, I would just say the recipe for success in life, you know, as a person, is to be organized. And I guess my ultimate schedule is my son's school schedule. So that's the schedule, which is probably every parent's schedule, right? But, yes, I don't fly by the seat of my pants like I did before when I was younger, just with everything.
- [33:12]
Interviewer
Molly finishes her makeup and prepares to strip off to film some videos. But there's another hitch to the plan. She can't find her equipment.
- [33:23]
Molly Manning
I went out to my. To my car and I couldn't find my tripod and my cable for my ring light. So.
- [33:32]
Interviewer
Later she'll head back across the road to the expo, ready to sell more mouse pads. A few steps ahead of her is the competition Jennifer White. Perhaps you're familiar with some of her cinematic back catalogue, including such titles as anal Love and MILFs Volume 2, All Star Mums, A Kinky Family, Mothers and Stepsons, Volume 6, and Mums Lick Teens, Volume 31. Hot tip. You don't need to have seen the first 30 volumes for the latest edition to make sense.
- [34:09]
Jennifer White
I average about 30 to 40 grand a month.
- [34:13]
Interviewer
And how much are you posting every day? Every day. What kind of content?
- [34:18]
Jennifer White
That's very sexual. Yeah. So it's a mix of wholesome content that gets freaky.
- [34:25]
Interviewer
Jennifer is doing the rounds of the Exact to celebrate her four nominations at the awards later this week. Like Angela White, Jennifer is also nominated for Female Performer of the Year. But there's a big difference between the two ladies. While they both share the same surname, they don't share the same view on milfhood. Angela told me she's firmly against doing MILF porn because it's not on brand, but Jennifer has embraced the role at 36 years old.
- [34:59]
Jennifer White
First milf scene I think was maybe four or five years ago. It was like right before I got my boobs done. So. But yeah, I'm doing it more and more over the years. When I usually do MILF scenes, they usually involve a stepson. It's pretty cool. It's when I first started in the industry, I was the young 18 year old. So to transition into MILF porn is, it's, it's different, but it's fun. It's before I would get cast with a lot of established gentlemen. I guess you put it nicely. And now I'm getting a lot of the like younger hotspots, studs. So yeah, it's cool. I like it. So when I first started it was the transition from DVD to Internet. And yeah, now it's the transition from Internet to onlyfans, which I think is really interesting. Or the merge of Internet to OnlyFans. Yeah, there's mixed feelings about it because a lot of these DIY creators are, they're independent. They don't need the mainstream companies to stay afloat. So the mainstream companies don't like that very much. You know, they, they want to shoot these girls, but the girls want to either charge a ridiculous amount or just not shoot for mainstream at all. Which is fine, you know, but polarizes the industry a little bit.
- [36:37]
Interviewer
And is that causing tension?
- [36:38]
Jennifer White
It's making the talent pool smaller. So that's harder on like production managers and companies to hire for sure. Cause a lot of the girls, like I said, they either want to charge a ridiculous amount or they just don't want to do the shoots at all. So now the companies are scrounging to find good talent, but they're struggling.
- [37:01]
Interviewer
What's the wildest thing you've done in your career?
- [37:05]
Jennifer White
It's gotta be a split between my 50 guy cream pie gangbang and my double anal scene.
- [37:11]
Interviewer
Tell me a little bit more about the 50 guy gang bang. What's happening behind the scenes that people wouldn't see on the video?
- [37:18]
Jennifer White
What's happening behind the scenes? I had like an ice pack on my pussy. You get very sore, very, very sore with that many dicks. And yes, the ice pack was very necessary and I was out of commission for at least two, three days after that.
- [37:38]
Interviewer
This might explain why Bonnie Blue, who just completed her world record gangbang with 1000 guys just one week ago, is still nowhere to be found. I ask Jennifer, who's also nominated this year for best gangbang scene what she thinks of Bonnie's attempt.
- [37:56]
Jennifer White
I've heard the name. Something I read was that I guess Bonnie Bl beef with Lily Phillips. But they gotta understand that they're not the first ones to think of this. You know, like there was Debbie Does Dallas. There was so many before them. And it's not taking anything away, I don't think, from Bonnie for, you know, Lily to go and do that first. I think it would be just as impactful for both of them.
- [38:24]
Interviewer
And there you have it. After all, mother knows best.
- [38:29]
Jennifer White
People definitely get jaded in this industry over time. I feel like there's a disconnect and you don't realize until you're talking to people outside of the industry that you're like, wow, I've been in the monkey cage too long.
- [38:47]
Interviewer
Out of the blue, I suddenly get word about Bonnie. I bid farewell to gangbang goddess turned MILF Jennifer White and rush through the casino like a single working mum who's late for the school pickup, shoving through groups of sweaty men who look like the comic book guy from The Simpsons. It's 6pm here on a Friday night and I'm going to pay Bonnie a visit. I've been informed that she's hiding out in her luxury rental mansion in Las Vegas. I'm going to try catch a glimpse of the real person behind the character, Bonnie Boy Blue. I need to find Bonnie Blue before she disappears again. Out of my way. Next time on Sex, Lies and streaming. After ducking and diving all week, avoiding the interview that I flew to Las Vegas for, I finally tracked down Bonnie Blue inside her home. It's the kind of house that you'd see in a movie like Clueless, where her team is in crisis mode and they've left the front iron glass door open after becoming the Internet's favourite villain. Who is Bonnie Blue behind closed doors? We're kicking back on Bonnie's bed.
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Molly Manning
Quite comfy pillows, aren't they?
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Interviewer
That's next time on Sex, Lies and streaming.
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Sika Black
Take it to the streets.
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Molly Manning
Hit, hit, hit. Control to hear.
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Interviewer
Thanks for listening. You can read more from me on news.com and find me on Facebook if you want to let me know your thoughts about this series. This show was written and hosted by me. My executive producer is Nina Young. Sound design and editing by Tiffany Dimac. Additional production assistance by Phoebe Zukowski Wallace. A big thanks to Kerry Warren, the editor of news. Com Au, for her support for the.