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Vanessa Chang ("V") calls herself an unlikely AI startup founder. She's the cofounder of Bernie, an SMS tool that helps senior citizens catch fraud and scams — and she built it without raising a round or hiring a dev team.

We recorded live at Human Tech Week in San Francisco, where every billboard is a sexy woman selling you an AI assistant. So we flipped it: what if the fantasy women are actually chasing isn't the assistant, but competence itself? Enter Shadow Daddy ChatGPT.

Along the way: what agency actually means (Vanessa's definition is the sharpest we've heard), why no woman fantasizes about 10x-ing her laundry, the tradwife shame baked into "I made it from scratch," and the brownie mix that needed exactly one egg to feel like love.

Vanessa's frame for all of it: help people think with AI, not like AI. Start here.

→ Bernie: https://www.textbernie.me/
→ More from V: https://vanessachang.com/

Part of our Human Tech Week series on agency. Don't miss Karina Alexanyan (Ep 19) on protopia.