Rachel Dratch (2:10)

Yes.

Aubrey Plaza (2:11)

Hello.

Irene Bremis (2:11)

Hello. Hi.

Rachel Dratch (2:12)

You're here in New York, right? Is that true?

Aubrey Plaza (2:15)

I am.

Irene Bremis (2:15)

I'm back.

Aubrey Plaza (2:16)

I'm back. I'm back in New York. Back for good.

Rachel Dratch (2:18)

Oh, for good.

Aubrey Plaza (2:20)

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Rachel Dratch (2:23)

Now, I know you just completed a play at Atlantic Theater and are you about to do more theater things, too?

Aubrey Plaza (2:30)

I don't know. I would love to, but I. It's kind of. I've only done two plays so far and both have kind of come to me very organically. I. And so I'm hoping that. That I get asked to do it again. But, yeah, I mean, I really, really like doing it. The last one that I just finished was called let's Love, and Ethan Coen wrote it, and I was in a movie of his called Honey don't with Margaret Qualley like a year ago. And then, well, it came out this year, but when we were shooting the movie at the end, he asked Me to do the play. So it was kind of. Yeah. So I've gotten to do it, like, with friends so far. But I. Yeah, I hope I keep getting to do it. Cause I really, really like it.

Rachel Dratch (3:10)

Well, we often talk about, like, how people got there, starred in the show biz, if indeed they're an actor or not. So I am curious about how you guys. I know you, like, you grew up in Delaware, right? Is that correct?

Aubrey Plaza (3:23)

Yes, Wilmington, Delaware.

Rachel Dratch (3:25)

And did you go the whole, like, UCB route of improv? Like, how did you, as. How did Kid Aubrey get started in wanting to do acting and stuff like that?

Aubrey Plaza (3:35)

I was. Well, kid, kid, Kid. Aubrey was, like, 11 when I went to community theater for the first time. And that was the first time that I was like, oh, my God, you can be somebody else.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (3:49)

This is great.

Aubrey Plaza (3:51)

And that's when I decided, like, oh, I really like this. When I was pretty young, so then I was just doing a lot of, like, community theater growing up at the Wilmington Drama League. And then in high school, I started to get really into improv and comedy stuff. And I was. By the way, I just say I was loved. And you were so huge for me, and so was Amy and so many people. But it's so. It's still so crazy to me that I, like, know you and am friends with you. But, yeah, as a high school student, I was just, like, watching SNL and all the, you know, Kids in the hall and Mr. Show and UCB and all those kind of shows. And then I found out through my friend that you could take classes at UCB in New York. And so then. Yeah, that was kind of my dream. And so pretty much immediately when, after high school, I started taking classes, like, right away. So that's kind of like. Yeah, that was kind of where I was training, the comedy stuff. Yeah. And then I just. I've told the story a lot, but I'll tell the very abbreviated version, but on this one. But, like, I was very lucky. I got. I really did have, like, a big break moment where it was, like, very undeniably, like, yep, that's a big break. It was Funny People, Judd Apatow movie starring Adam Sandler. And I really got that part because of ucb, because. Do you remember the Jeannie Tate show?

Rachel Dratch (5:13)

Yeah. With Liz Kokowski. You played her teen surly daughter.

Aubrey Plaza (5:18)

Yes, I played Tina Tate.

Rachel Dratch (5:19)

Ooh, okay.

Irene Bremis (5:21)

Yeah.

Aubrey Plaza (5:21)

And so that was because of a UCB class, because I was in. It was not like, a master class, but I think Gethard, Chris Gethard was teaching, like, One of the higher level classes. And Maggie Carey was in my class.

Irene Bremis (5:34)

Oh, wow.

Aubrey Plaza (5:35)

And she asked me to do the Jeannie Tate show because she was like, you. I was like 20 or, you know, I was young. So she was like, she was like, you look like you could be like 16. Like, can you do this web series? And I was like, sure. And that's kind of how I kind of got the audition for Funny People, because there was an agent at the time that was like, aware of that. And then so it was like kind of like one thing led to the other. But when I got Funny People, you know, I was completely like unknown. I had only. I really hadn't done much at all. And that was like a huge, you know, $80 million comedy starring Adam Sandler. So it was like, definitely. Yeah, it happened really fast. And then the same week that I got that, I also got Parks and Rec and Scott Pilgrim versus the world. Wow.

Rachel Dratch (6:21)

Oh my God.

Aubrey Plaza (6:22)

So it was a very magical week of my life.

Rachel Dratch (6:25)

That's crazy. I love this story because first of all, before I get to the magical week, I love this story because people who always ask, how do I break into comedy or whatever, and then I always tell them to take classes somewhere because even if you're the best ever, first of all you're going to learn in class, but then you're going to meet people, you're going to make connections in a very organic way. And that's such a good example of it because there's no sort of roadmap to do it. And that's such a good example of.

Aubrey Plaza (6:54)

How you got discovered and yeah, totally like your relationships.

Rachel Dratch (6:58)

Yeah.

Aubrey Plaza (6:59)

I mean, most of the time I feel like it's like you never know, you just never know. And like UCB is such a great model because their whole thing is yes and you say yes. So I had that approach anyway. It was like, because you just don't, you know, you don't know.

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Aubrey Plaza (7:14)

Who are you going to collaborate with?

Rachel Dratch (7:16)

And I love that too because it's really just who, like you said, like who you gravitate towards and who you naturally enjoy working with. And then that leads to so many things. With the post holiday slowdown, that means.

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I do with my pal Ruffles.

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Rachel Dratch (10:59)

About your magic week. I think it just came out about your. Your audition for Parks and Rec was just circulating or something like that.

Aubrey Plaza (11:07)

I know, I've heard. I've heard that. Yes, somebody. I think I was like. When I was doing press for the Halloween book, I think, like one of the Today show hosts made me watch it. She was like, look at this. I was like, what the hell is going on? But, yeah, I guess it went viral.

Irene Bremis (11:22)

Yeah.

Aubrey Plaza (11:23)

Again, so you came in and you like.

Rachel Dratch (11:26)

You were kind of. It was sort of similar adjacent to the Tina Tate thing, right? Like, kind of like, yeah, Tina Tate.

Aubrey Plaza (11:33)

Was actually the original April Ludgate. Yeah, like, absolutely. For sure. And then kind of. Cause I kind of developed that character there. And then when I went in and met Mike Scher and Greg Daniels, I wasn't like doing that character. But I was pitching them because they were telling me what Amy's character was gonna be and what the premise of the show was. But they hadn't written this pilot yet. And so I was like, what if she had an assistant? But it was like an intern and she just like had to do it for credit, but, like, hated to be there kind of vibe. And then the next thing I heard was that they put me in the show. And in the pilot, my character's name was Aubrey. And then. But because I was like a nobody, the network had me audition and they changed, you know. So essentially I was kind of auditioning to like playing myself kind of or something. But so I knew. I knew very much what it was. Cause it was kind of my idea almost.

Rachel Dratch (12:33)

Yeah, that's so.

Aubrey Plaza (12:34)

But I still had to prove that I could be Yourself?

Rachel Dratch (12:37)

Myself.

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Aubrey Plaza (12:38)

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Rachel Dratch (12:40)

So wait, so your crazy week where everything came together, were you just, like, out of body or were you like. I mean, you were young. I mean, well, you're young to me still. Yes, because you're a youngster to me. But you were like, 20 something. 20 what? 3 or.

Aubrey Plaza (12:55)

I was 23. Yeah, 22. 23.

Rachel Dratch (12:58)

Were you just, like, my big break moment was, like, getting the call for snl.

Aubrey Plaza (13:02)

Oh, my God.

Irene Bremis (13:03)

Surreal.

Rachel Dratch (13:03)

Like, back Flippy calling everyone. You know, was it like that kind of thing, or were you just, like, numb and just. Do you remember?

Aubrey Plaza (13:11)

It was kind of. There was, like, little stages to it because it was like, the big call for me was they really like your tape. Like, the scene that I sent in. And then it was, he needs to see you do stand up. Because the character was a standup comedian. So then I pretended to be a standup comedian, and I had my friend from high school film me. And then I sent that tape in. And then I guess the bigger. The big call was like, okay, he likes that. And they want you to fly out to LA to do a chemistry read. And so that was the big call for me, but I still hadn't gotten it yet. But it was like, oh, man. I'm like, you know, going out there. And so the week that I went out there to do the chemistry read was the same week that I went on all those other meetings. And I didn't have an agent at the time, so I didn't really know. I didn't really know the weight of those meetings, which I. Looking back now, I think I understand almost, like, why I got those parts. Because I had a really nonchalant attitude about it. And I was, like, literally wearing jean shorts and going into meetings. Yeah, I was not numb. I was very excited. But I definitely didn't think I was gonna get any of those parts. Like, I was like, this is a joke. Like, I felt like I was, like, playing the lottery. Like, ha, ha, ha. Like, and I was more interested in driving around and looking at Judy Garland's house, old house. Like, I was doing, like, touristy stuff when I wasn't going to auditions or whatever.

Rachel Dratch (14:45)

Well, that's kind of interesting. Cause, like, you weren't going in there. Like, hands clenched. Like, I gotta get this. Like, you were just kind of being yourself or, I don't know, for the funny people.

Aubrey Plaza (14:55)

Funny people won. I definitely. No, funny people won. I definitely was hands clenched because I had. Through the process. And that was, like, the last, you know, step of the process to chemistry re with Seth Rogen. So I definitely was like. But I think. I think I am good under pressure. Like, I have. It's almost like I have an opposite reaction to pressure where I just like disassociate and I just pretend that I don't care. It's like a protective thing where I'm like. Where I'm basically like saying to myself, like, well, you might as well just like, this is just funny. Like, you might as well just like laugh or like have fun because this is never gonna actually happen. So don't get your hopes up or something. Maybe that's a dark thing to say to yourself, but that's kind of how I was. I was like, I wanted it really badly, but I was kind of just like, just kind of playing it cool, I guess.

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Rachel Dratch (18:18)

I wanted to get into your kids books, by the way.

Aubrey Plaza (18:20)

Okay.

Rachel Dratch (18:21)

But I know that like, Halloween book is called Luna and the Witch. Throw a Halloween party. Before that came your Christmas. Wait, what did the order go? It's one Christmas or both Christmas.

Aubrey Plaza (18:31)

So I have three published books right now. Legend of the Christmas Witch, which is book one of the Christmas witch series.

Rachel Dratch (18:39)

Yes.

Aubrey Plaza (18:39)

Which I consider a franchise someday.

Rachel Dratch (18:42)

Yes.

Aubrey Plaza (18:43)

And book two is the Return of the Christmas Witch. It's a trilogy, that series. So book three is being written right now.

Irene Bremis (18:50)

Oh, cool.

Aubrey Plaza (18:51)

Awesome franchise. But with the same editor and the same publishing company. Viking Penguin Random House. Yeah, they really liked working on the Christmas witch books. And then they, they were like, what if, you know, what if you did like a Halloween witch book that had nothing to do with the Christmas witch. And obviously I love Halloween and I love witches, so I was like, sure, I'll do, you know. And I write them with my best friend who I grew up with, who I also knew since I was 16. Who you met Murph.

Irene Bremis (19:18)

Yeah, Murph.

Rachel Dratch (19:19)

Yeah. Me and Murph.

Aubrey Plaza (19:20)

Yeah.

Rachel Dratch (19:20)

Dan Murph. Is that his name?

Aubrey Plaza (19:22)

Dan Murphy.

Rachel Dratch (19:23)

Okay. Dan Murphy.

Aubrey Plaza (19:23)

I call him Murph.

Irene Bremis (19:24)

Right, Murph?

Rachel Dratch (19:25)

We love a high school connection, don't we, Irene?

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Irene Bremis (19:29)

We do.

Rachel Dratch (19:29)

I love it that we have. You happen to have a witch theme happening. Since we are woo woo there. We've wedged in the woo woo with the witches. But I do know, like, you were into. You were talking about like that you were really into Halloween and witches growing up and stuff. So I want to talk about that. But also, how did the Christmas Witch book come about?

Aubrey Plaza (19:49)

So the Christmas witch was like kind of this performance. It's actually all ties into Halloween. It's like it kind of came full circle. I used to. Well, I still do. But when I was in living in LA and living in like a normal neighborhood, I would put on like a pretty big Halloween. I would create like a haunted little like entryway to my house. And then I would always be a witch and I would just try to scare. And I created this kind of like witch character on Halloween where the vibe is like that she really hates Halloween. She hates kids, but she has to give them candy. So she throws candy at them and she's like, I hate doing this, but she keeps doing it. And the kids are like, why are you doing it then, lady? And they love it. Cause it's so dumb.

Rachel Dratch (20:37)

It's so fun.

Aubrey Plaza (20:38)

She's like, I have to give you candy, but I don't want to. And they're like, then why? And so it's this really dumb character that I started doing that really makes me happy. And then I don't know why, but at Christmas I was just on like a real witch kick a couple years ago with this character. And then around Christmas, I was like, what if Santa Claus had a long lost twin sister who ended up on the South Pole and became a witch instead of a Santa Claus and she has to like, go give presents to the kids, but she like, hates it or something. That was like my. That was a basis for an idea. So then I tried it out on one of my friend's kids, Max, and I went over. I dress up like a witch, but I did, like green and red kind of ribbons and like, did a Christmas flair. And then I came and like, snuck in the house and started throwing presents at him. And just as like a practice round.

Rachel Dratch (21:39)

Yeah.

Aubrey Plaza (21:39)

And so then I started doing that on Christmas morning to my friend's kids. And I've done it two years in a row where I have a signup sheet for them and they tell me what time their kids are opening their presents on Christmas morning. And I show up as a witch. First I try to steal their presents, and then I throw, like, things at them and creates a really interesting scene because the kids are like, not ready to, like, have a witch show up on Christmas morning. But the idea is that she is into nature. She's like a Yuletide witch, so she hates capitalism. She thinks her brother is, like, lame because all he does is like, give people toys. And she's like, I give you sticks and dirt and it's better than a toy. And so I throw sticks at them and I'm like, you're welcome. But they kind of like it.

Rachel Dratch (22:41)

That sounds so fun.

Aubrey Plaza (22:43)

That was my. It was basically a character piece. And then I wanted to turn it into a movie idea, but then one of my producing friends was like, no, no, no, you should write the book series. So that you can expand the world and really dive into it and then later, later, you know, try to make a movie. So that's how it all happens. Wow.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (23:03)

Wow. Genius. That is genius. I love it. It's like the. I love it so much. It's like the Grinch. But I love the fact that you're.

Rachel Dratch (23:12)

Throwing a generous Grinch.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (23:14)

Generous. And it's like, it also opens their minds at the same time. It's awesome.

Aubrey Plaza (23:19)

Yeah. She loves sticks and trees. She's really into the tree. Like, Christmas tree. That's like her territory. Whereas, like, Santa's all about packages and she's all about, like, trees and flowers and wreaths, you know, and things like that.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (23:34)

It's like she's really bringing out the consumerism in Santa, you know, like, it's.

Aubrey Plaza (23:38)

Really calling it up.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (23:40)

Genius.

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Aubrey Plaza (23:41)

If you read the books, there's the evil company that's run by evil elves. It's called Kringle, and it's an obvious play on Amazon. It's like there's a Kringle factory on the South Pole that's just making these packages in a futuristic package obsessed world. And Chris Torn, the Christmas witch, is railing against this and she's going, you know, everybody's forgotten that this isn't about packages. This is about the magic of.

Rachel Dratch (24:08)

Ooh, I like that. I like that.

Aubrey Plaza (24:11)

Yes.

Rachel Dratch (24:12)

Yeah. And then the Halloween one is. Well, I guess tell the listeners.

Aubrey Plaza (24:19)

You know, what it's really about is this little girl named Luna's new friendship with this silly old witch named Feeny who she meets on her block in Philadelphia. And the idea is just that all the kids that Feeny lives in this, like, kind of scary, witchy looking, like, duplex on her block. And all the kids in the neighborhood are like, stay away from that house. Like, she's a creepy old lady and she's evil. And they make up all these stories like she's going to eat us and stuff. And then Luna's like, I'm not scared of her, and wants to see what's going on in there. So she knocks on the door and then she meets this silly woman, old lady named Feeny, who is a witch, but she's just really upset and anxious because she wants to throw a party, but she doesn't know how. And she thinks all the. No one will show up. And so Luna realizes you can't judge a book by its cover. This is just an old woman who's lonely and she doesn't have any friends. And so Luna teams up with her and says, if you teach me to be a witch, then I'll help you throw the best Halloween party ever. And so that's what the book is about. And then they do throw this, like, great party, and then all the kids in the neighborhood show up and they all realize, oh, she's not so bad.

Rachel Dratch (25:38)

Right, Right. It's very sweet. And the kids at the books event were yelling out questions. It was so cute.

Aubrey Plaza (25:46)

Yeah.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (25:47)

And you always have that one house that is like. You know, when I was growing up, we had that one house. I think I mentioned it on one of the. On the episodes the kids, like, all saying, this woman is a witch and afraid to go there.

Aubrey Plaza (25:56)

And it's like, right? There's always someone like that.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (26:00)

There's always someone. Yeah.

Aubrey Plaza (26:01)

You guys must have had a lot of that in Massachusetts. That's like.

Rachel Dratch (26:04)

Oh, so wait, I was just remembering when you did Poehler's podcast, wasn't the question about the Salem. Were you a Salem witch or something? Like, what was that?

Aubrey Plaza (26:13)

Yeah. Margaret asked, like, yes. What was the Salem witch trials like?

Rachel Dratch (26:16)

Yes, yes, Very funny.

Aubrey Plaza (26:20)

But honestly, they weren't that bad.

Rachel Dratch (26:23)

Aubrey. Irene and I went to Salem a couple weeks ago. Well, actually around Halloween, and we have a couple episodes with, like, experts from the Salem witch trials. I think you would really dig it, because I will. It's a real deal of witchery. But, yeah. And your production company is.

Aubrey Plaza (26:41)

Evil Hag.

Rachel Dratch (26:42)

Evil Hag.

Aubrey Plaza (26:43)

Evil.

Rachel Dratch (26:44)

Evil Hag Productions.

Aubrey Plaza (26:45)

Yes, Evil Hag Productions.

Rachel Dratch (26:47)

So you have a long and storied history of witch love.

Aubrey Plaza (26:50)

I do. It's like, it's been in this very organic, weird thing in my life. I don't know why. Like, it just keeps. I think. I mean, I have theories where I feel. I think that I have, like, a lineage. I think. I know I do, like, of women, witches in my family, because I have Celtic blood and then I have Basque blood. And, you know, in the Basque region, there was witch trials that were thousands of witches, you know, were being tried in medieval times or I don't know what times it was. I'm not really sure.

Rachel Dratch (27:25)

We don't either, even though we had that whole lecture. But, yes, we did learn that it was a witch. We did learn that it was. We did learn it was a worldwide witch frenzy.

Irene Bremis (27:35)

Panic.

Rachel Dratch (27:35)

Witch panic.

Aubrey Plaza (27:37)

It was a frenzy. So I just feel like I must have had women in my family. And the hag thing, I mean, there's a crossover with hags and witches, but, like, I guess Feeny, in my mind is, like, kind of encapsulates the hag character that I gravitate towards, which is kind of on the outside, you think this is a scary looking old woman, but then really it's just like a silly old hag.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (28:06)

It sort of like disarms all the negativity, you know, like this is just like. I think that there's like this hidden message too for children that's really positive through your books, you know, and they're hilarious, but they're also really, you know, they're super smart. It's like a unique perspective, you know.

Aubrey Plaza (28:21)

I hope so.

Rachel Dratch (28:26)

You know, we love to talk about.

Irene Bremis (28:27)

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Rachel Dratch (28:41)

Red cap, little white speckles.

Irene Bremis (28:42)

You know Mario's mushroom, the fairy tale mushroom? Yeah, that one. Well, it's called Amanita muscaria and it has this ancient history of being used for relaxation, dreaminess, introspection and all kinds of wintry mystical traditions. And here's the wild part. It's completely legal in almost every state. People use it in tiny gentle amounts to unwind, deepen their creativity, get cozy, sleep better or just tap into a softer, more magical vibe. And the best, safest, most reputable place to try it is a company called Amantara. These are the folks leading the modern ethical amanita market in the us. They work with sourcing families around the world. They do extensive testing. They prepare everything carefully. No synthetics, no weird chemicals, just real natural amanita in a form that's gentle and beginner friendly. They have these 500 milligram capsules that are perfect for first timers. Most people take two or three to start, so like one to one and a half grams, the effects kind of float in after about an hour and last for several hours. And it's a very soft experience. Experience. Warm body feel, deep relaxation, vivid dreaming, gentle euphoria, Very woo woo, very cozy mushroom energy.

Rachel Dratch (29:57)

So if you've been curious about exploring.

Irene Bremis (29:59)

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Rachel Dratch (30:28)

Aubrey, have you been to Salem? Just curious.

Aubrey Plaza (30:32)

Yeah, one time my mom Took us on a trip there and it was so fun.

Sponsor Announcer (RealReal) (30:37)

It's pretty cool.

Aubrey Plaza (30:38)

It's a long time ago. Long, long time ago.

Rachel Dratch (30:39)

Yeah, cuz like we grew up near there, but we. Last time I remember going was like an elementary school field trip. Barely remember at all. But it was a really interesting place to go.

Aubrey Plaza (30:47)

Oh, I gotta go back. Yeah, you gotta go back.

Rachel Dratch (30:50)

No. Do you do anything witchy like crystals or whatever? Well, I don't really know much about crystals. All manner of woo woo is welcome here. We found out Amy Poehler, who's very anti woo woo but well, not anti. She's just a non believer.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (31:02)

But she's very skepticism.

Rachel Dratch (31:04)

But she is into crystals though, we found out at the end.

Aubrey Plaza (31:07)

What are you talking about? She does rituals.

Irene Bremis (31:09)

She does.

Aubrey Plaza (31:10)

She does manifestation.

Rachel Dratch (31:11)

Oh yeah, she does. She does manifestation.

Irene Bremis (31:13)

Yeah, she's just.

Aubrey Plaza (31:14)

Yeah, that's woo woo.

Rachel Dratch (31:15)

Yeah, that's true.

Aubrey Plaza (31:16)

That's true.

Rachel Dratch (31:16)

She did talk about her manifesting typewriter. I don't know if she told you about that, but she types. I don't know about the imaginary typewriter.

Aubrey Plaza (31:23)

Moon spells with her.

Odoo Sponsor Announcer (31:24)

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Rachel Dratch (31:25)

You've done moon spells.

Aubrey Plaza (31:26)

She's on.

Rachel Dratch (31:27)

But are you into. Okay, so you're into like moon spells, crystals.

Aubrey Plaza (31:31)

I don't know. Yeah, I love following the moon cycles and I mean basically. And this kind of also ties back into improv, weirdly. So I don't know if you know about my group Bombardo.

Irene Bremis (31:44)

No.

Aubrey Plaza (31:45)

So when I was at UCB doing classes, I was asked to be in a female improv group called Bombardo. It was seven of us and we formed 20 years ago and we did a show every Friday night at Gotham City. And then, you know, we would like apply to do cage matches and other shows. But we were just like an indie, like all girl improv group. And we kept doing it like for years and years. And then at a certain point, some people in the group stopped performing. Or one of them moved to Pittsburgh and had kids and one of them moved back to new. Everyone kind of just started living their different kind of lives. But we kept staying as a group and we would still do activities. And then a couple years ago, we decided to do a Bombardo trip to Sedona. And we solidified ourselves as a coven on this trip. Cause we always, we were dabbling in, you know, coventry. Is that a word? I don't know, sweetie. Yes, but we were dabbling in it. Cause you know, when you're an improv group, you have to mind meld. You have to really do these exercises together. And shows and there's an energy exchange. And it's really not that dissimilar to being in a witchy coven.

Irene Bremis (33:04)

That's true.

Aubrey Plaza (33:05)

Because you have to use your energies for the greater good. And so we did this ritual in Sedona. Yeah. Where we kind of like. I don't know what to call it. I didn't. Beth Newell, who's in the coven, she led it. We kind of. It was like something that we were not joking, but it was almost like we. That we had a little kind of, you know, it was funny what we were gonna do, but then while we were doing it, I swear to God, like, it got not funny. It got kind of, like, serious. And we had these different colored candles that were burning that we had to kind of place in the center, and they would burn at different times. Like, the wax would, like, drip at different rates. And there were all these things that were happening where we were like, oh, my God, like, we're actually doing it. And then. Then. Since then, yeah, we've kind of made a point to do group spells, usually based on the moon cycles. New moons, full moons, super blood moons, you know, and they're mostly manifestation spells. We don't. We don't do any black magic, you know, none that I can speak of really. But we try to stay, you know, on the right side of things. But when you get a group of women together, a lot of things are possible. It's a lot of energy.

Irene Bremis (34:28)

Yes.

Aubrey Plaza (34:30)

That you can harness.

Rachel Dratch (34:31)

Do you guys always connected? I guess you're living in different spots. But do you always make it a point of meeting in person like once a year or so? It was that a one time?

Aubrey Plaza (34:38)

No, we. Well, we try. We, like all the girls came out for to see my play. And then we. We went to Brooklyn and we did a moon spell outside of our. My friend's apartment. So just a couple weeks ago was a full moon around Halloween. Actually that big one. That was pretty crazy.

Rachel Dratch (35:00)

So for those of us who don't know about moon spells, like myself, I don't really. I mean, you might know. But like, what. What do you guys. I mean, I don't want to, like, get like, have you divulge your own personal coven. But, like, what would be something. Is it like you put out a. Like a witch, like an intention or their actual, like, things that are done.

Irene Bremis (35:22)

And chants and stuff.

Aubrey Plaza (35:24)

I mean, it's kind of like the basic style that at least that I'm aware of or that I've practiced is like, you. There's different, like, depending on the moon. Like, some of the moons, it's a better time to release, to get rid of things that do not serve you. And then some moons, it's better to bring things in and manifest things. So generally you just, you know, you have. You go outside. Ideally, you're outside, like, under the moon, if you can be. And you write something on a piece of paper, and then you burn it in a fire under the moon. That's the very basic, standard ritual. But you can add all kinds of bells and whistles to that. I don't know why, but it was like, when we were doing the full moon thing, we started chanting. I think it's okay to say we started chancing. We have also this, like, cat thing. I don't know. We all have, like, I don't have a cat right now, but everybody in the group has, like, a lot of cats. And we. In our improv shows, we always ended up doing, like, group games where we were cats, but we were. We were chanting outside. Cats are the answer. Cats are the way. Come, little pussies. Come and play.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (36:36)

Oh, my God, I love it. Look what I'm wearing.

Aubrey Plaza (36:39)

It was. It didn't mean anything, but it was really making us laugh. We were laughing so hard. And then I was like, oh, my God, we're cackling. And then it was like. And then you realize, like, this is part of the ritual, even though it didn't really mean anything, but what it did was it created this, like, cackling energy. And then I was like, that's part of it. I was like. And then we were like. Cause we were just making each other laugh, being silly. But then. You know what I mean? And then you're like. You think about witches cackling. You're like, where'd that come from?

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (37:09)

I love that.

Rachel Dratch (37:10)

Because when I think about. Yeah, because when I think of, like, some of my most fun moments, it's cackling with a bunch of lady friends. And like to think of that as some sort of, like, positive magic. I like adding that layer onto it, too.

Aubrey Plaza (37:24)

Yeah.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (37:24)

And plus, you're bringing that energy. You're fusing it together. And I don't know if you can see this, but I'm actually wearing rose with a cat.

Aubrey Plaza (37:31)

Yes.

Irene Bremis (37:32)

Oh, wow.

Rachel Dratch (37:33)

That's my rose.

Aubrey Plaza (37:34)

It's a powerful remedy in that cat.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (37:36)

It's Rosie the Riveter with a cat.

Ali Jackson (37:38)

That's right.

Irene Bremis (37:38)

Oh, wow.

Rachel Dratch (37:39)

Look at this.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (37:40)

Wow. That's amazing. I love that, Aubrey. That's amazing. And, you know, that's How? You know, our friend Carmen D. Does a lot of spells. She's been doing spells for years and. Oh, I didn't know that that's generally what she does. She goes outside under the moon, and she writes an intention down and then she burns it. That's how you.

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Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (37:58)

But there are other ways that you can do it. But I. I love that.

Rachel Dratch (38:01)

And Polar talked about the Lion's portal. I don't know if you guys did that together. Oh, that's some day in August. It's like a day in August that you're supposed to like that. It's like someday in August, it's some sort of moon called the lion's Portal, like for. And you're supposed to write down everything for the year. I don't know. We'll have to ask her about it.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (38:18)

Okay. We'll have to look. How many special interviews.

Odoo Sponsor Announcer (38:21)

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Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (38:22)

I'm sorry. How many women are in the. In the coven that you form? Seven.

Rachel Dratch (38:26)

Okay, seven.

Aubrey Plaza (38:27)

I mean, I think I could be wrong about this, but I think technically it's. Isn't it five?

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (38:33)

Five?

Aubrey Plaza (38:33)

Yeah. You have to have at least five to be okay. I'm sure you can squeeze in a.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (38:39)

Couple of more, sweetie. That's right.

Aubrey Plaza (38:40)

Yeah, you can have more.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (38:42)

Yeah. Amplify that cackle.

Aubrey Plaza (38:44)

Yeah. Yeah.

Irene Bremis (38:49)

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Rachel Dratch (40:08)

So when I was thinking about Woo woo things. First of all, thank you so much, because that was. We haven't talked about that. We have never talked about. Like, we had our Salem witches, but we haven't talked about, like, moon ceremonies and heavens of witches. So we always love talking about a new topic on here. But wait, now, what about astrology? I'm hopping around here. But don't tell us what you are because Irene likes to guess.

Aubrey Plaza (40:30)

Okay, I'm not.

Rachel Dratch (40:31)

But are you. Do you subscribe to astrology?

Aubrey Plaza (40:34)

Totally. Oh, okay.

Irene Bremis (40:36)

Okay.

Rachel Dratch (40:37)

I guess I should guess that with the moons and everything. Irene, do you want to guess now? I'll just warn you. Irene, what do we want to say about your guessing? Irene?

Aubrey Plaza (40:46)

It's either.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (40:47)

It's either shit or it's fan fucking.

Rachel Dratch (40:49)

That's true. It's either on the nose.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (40:51)

I'm either the shit.

Rachel Dratch (40:52)

She gets it either the first time, or she has to guess eight, and then we finally just reveal it.

Irene Bremis (40:57)

Okay, so do you want to guess.

Rachel Dratch (40:59)

And talk to your process? I mean, because Irene knows more about this than I do.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (41:03)

Sweetie, I love this. We're forming our own little covenant right here on zoom.

Aubrey Plaza (41:06)

Okay.

Rachel Dratch (41:06)

Okay.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (41:06)

I'm putting my hood on.

Rachel Dratch (41:08)

I feel it. That's very Druid style.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (41:12)

Very Druid.

Aubrey Plaza (41:12)

Exactly.

Irene Bremis (41:13)

Okay.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (41:13)

Very Celtic. Anyway, I feel like I have a sense of what you are, especially when you described yourself in the Enneagram. I'm gonna go with three guesses. Can I have three?

Rachel Dratch (41:22)

By the way, I looked it up, so I know the answer. Yes, I looked it up. But I didn't tell Irene. I didn't tell her.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (41:28)

Okay, Aubrey goes three.

Irene Bremis (41:31)

Okay.

Aubrey Plaza (41:32)

How about one?

Rachel Dratch (41:34)

All right, let's see. Three guys said.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (41:35)

Okay. All right, I'm gonna say I'm getting these three vibes from you. And I wonder what your chart is, because it's not just about your. Your actual sun sign. It's also about your Ascendant, which is your rising, and it also has to.

Aubrey Plaza (41:47)

Do with your emotion.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (41:48)

Okay, here we go. I'm getting either Taurus cancer or Scorpio vibe from you.

Aubrey Plaza (41:55)

How dare you say Scorpio. Now I'm king. Should I tell you what I am?

Irene Bremis (42:02)

Yeah.

Aubrey Plaza (42:03)

A cancer. You got it. I'm a cancer.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (42:08)

You know what was the thing that. I knew it when we were. We were talking, I got a vibe anyway. But the thing that really drove it home is when you said, I have an external. What did you say? Extrovert. Right? An extrovert. And that's a cancer one right there. Oh, yeah. I don't know much about a shell. They go into a shell a lot. They're like, either. That's why they're a crab.

Rachel Dratch (42:28)

That's why you put your hood on.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (42:30)

That's right.

Irene Bremis (42:31)

She put her.

Rachel Dratch (42:32)

She put her crab hood on.

Aubrey Plaza (42:34)

It's so true. Literally, like, hard exterior, soft onions. Yeah, I didn't even think about that with the hoodie. Yeah. And a hoodie's kind of my thing. I'm a crab, baby.

Rachel Dratch (42:44)

Aubrey. We get along because I'm a Pisces. I'm a water sign, too, I think.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (42:48)

Cancer.

Aubrey Plaza (42:49)

Pisces.

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Aubrey Plaza (42:49)

Yeah.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (42:50)

Abbasagi.

Rachel Dratch (42:51)

Irene's sag. She's very positive.

Aubrey Plaza (42:53)

And I'm so. That my physical trainer today is a sag, and he told me that Sagittarius is the best sign in the whole thing.

Rachel Dratch (43:04)

It is pretty good. Okay, so I feel like we covered everything, except, you know, we have the Pendulum reading, too. Wait, sidebar, sidebar. That has nothing to do with Woo Woo. But you were roommates with Patti LuPone, right?

Aubrey Plaza (43:16)

Yes.

Rachel Dratch (43:17)

This is fascinating to me. Okay. You got to town, and I forget how you knew her, but you ended up, like, moving in and living with Patty.

Aubrey Plaza (43:24)

I knew her because we were witches. We were in a fucking coven together on Agatha all along. Of course, it always comes back to witches. Everything's witches. We were cast in Katherine Hahn's show Agatha along in a coven. And that's how I met her. I didn't know her. I mean, obviously I knew who she was, but I met her. Yeah. When we started shooting. And then I found out very quickly that we had both decided to rent houses across the street from each other in this really weird, like, little town in Atlanta that nobody else was staying in. Like, in the woods, literally. And so we both happened to be like, oh, you're staying in this, like, weird woods town. And I was like, yeah. And then we were like, wait a minute. We're neighbors. So she was like, doll, you have to come over and have a glass of wine after work. And so we just became friends. And she was just so funny. We were just cracking each other up the whole shoot and just really got along. And then while I was shooting that show is when I got the call about doing a play. And I had not done a professional play, so I was like, well, I got Patti LuPone right here. Like, I'm gonna, you know, milk that for all I can. Cause she can be my mentor, you know? Teach me. Tell me what to do. So I. So I said, like, you know, what do you think about this? And then she started going, oh, I'm gonna tell you everything. This is what you put in your contract. And this is. And you're gonna live with me. And I just said, okay. So then I did. And then I did. I moved in with her when I was doing the play and during rehearsals and everything, and she would wash my underwear. And that would be an amazing reality show. Make soup for me.

Rachel Dratch (45:08)

I'm sure I'm not the first person to say that, but who wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall for these two?

Aubrey Plaza (45:15)

You would not believe. We were always just. Yeah. Wearing long T shirts and underwear. And she was always just thawing raw meat and doing, like, vocal warmers.

Irene Bremis (45:25)

Oh, my God.

Rachel Dratch (45:26)

Wow. Well, I had to touch on that because I heard about it somewhere. Okay, so the pendulum reading Aubrey as we do it at the end of every episode, I have a brand new pendulum. Cause I lost Irene's. I put it through the washing machine by accident and lost it. Irene's precious pendulum. But anyway, Irene, you have one, too, right? This is the new one I got for Irene, but I just have it.

Aubrey Plaza (45:47)

Oh, my God. Are you gonna hypnotize?

Rachel Dratch (45:48)

No, we're not gonna.

Aubrey Plaza (45:49)

Oh, no, wait.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (45:50)

Do you know about these?

Rachel Dratch (45:52)

These would be a good addition for your coven. So it swings one way. It swings one way for yes. And then look, if I say show me no. Well, mine stays still for no. Or it can swing side to side. There we go. But it swings. And Irene picked a whole football season with this pendulum.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (46:07)

I did.

Sponsor Announcer (RealReal) (46:08)

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Rachel Dratch (46:08)

So Irene has a pretty good track record, but. So you're going to think of a yes or no question, and it's one that you don't mind revealing. And we also say, don't make it anything that's going to make you bum out if it doesn't give you the answer you want.

Aubrey Plaza (46:20)

Well, I mean, I just have, like. Just kind of like a basic work question.

Rachel Dratch (46:25)

Okay, that's good. No, that's good. Okay, so you think on it. Okay. I have an answer already.

Aubrey Plaza (46:30)

I'm not going to reveal the title.

Irene Bremis (46:31)

That's okay.

Rachel Dratch (46:32)

That's okay.

Aubrey Plaza (46:32)

Okay.

Rachel Dratch (46:33)

Okay. Did you have an answer?

Aubrey Plaza (46:34)

Irene?

Rachel Dratch (46:36)

Irene? Slow on the draw, sweetie. I'm sorry.

Aubrey Plaza (46:38)

I don't mean to. Oh, it's shaking.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (46:40)

Yes.

Rachel Dratch (46:41)

I got a yes.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (46:41)

I got a yes.

Rachel Dratch (46:42)

I got a yes.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (46:45)

Yes.

Rachel Dratch (46:46)

I got a yes.

Aubrey Plaza (46:46)

I don't know what answer I want. Oh, well, what's the question? I didn't have to ask a question. I was asking if I should do this movie that I'm not going to.

Rachel Dratch (46:54)

Okay. You know, but look, it's going. It's saying yes.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (46:57)

Mine is saying yes.

Rachel Dratch (46:58)

Swinging. Yes, Aubrey. Swinging wildly. Yes.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (47:02)

It's a resounding yes. A resounding yes.

Rachel Dratch (47:05)

So there you have it. Oh, maybe you didn't want to do it. Oh, you're on the fence.

Aubrey Plaza (47:12)

Well, I was on the fence.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (47:12)

Not anymore.

Aubrey Plaza (47:13)

Wait, can I say one more thing?

Rachel Dratch (47:15)

Yeah.

Aubrey Plaza (47:16)

I put my Christmas ornaments on my tree.

Irene Bremis (47:19)

Yeah.

Aubrey Plaza (47:20)

At my mom's house.

Irene Bremis (47:21)

Yeah.

Aubrey Plaza (47:22)

And one of our ornaments. That's like one of the older ornaments that we have is your face.

Rachel Dratch (47:27)

And it's a this is so weird ornament. You're the second person to tell me this in 20. Well, I guess it's Christmas time. I guess that's not so weird. But someone just texted me last year.

Irene Bremis (alternate or additional speaker) (47:35)

It is weird.

Rachel Dratch (47:35)

No, someone told me this last night because Tina made these when I was on snl. And it says hat Mary Dratshmus now. The sad thing.

Aubrey Plaza (47:43)

For your consideration.

Rachel Dratch (47:45)

And so I've long ago lost mine. I wish I had it. But anyway, two people told me someone texted me last night and said, like, look what's on my tree. And you're the second person.

Aubrey Plaza (47:55)

It's old.

Irene Bremis (47:56)

It's very old.

Rachel Dratch (47:56)

It's like 20 years ago or something.

Aubrey Plaza (47:59)

It's literally from 20 years ago. It's been on my tree ever since. It's like I put it on the. Because we all. We all pick out of our box different ornaments. And I always do the drachmas.

Rachel Dratch (48:10)

I'm touched and honored.

Aubrey Plaza (48:12)

But, yeah, it's on our tree every year.

Rachel Dratch (48:14)

I'm so honored.

Aubrey Plaza (48:15)

I'll text you a picture of it.

Irene Bremis (48:16)

Okay.

Rachel Dratch (48:16)

Oh, yeah. Then I can.

Aubrey Plaza (48:17)

I just want you to know that you're in my Christmas tree every year.

Rachel Dratch (48:21)

We manifested this meetup.

Aubrey Plaza (48:22)

Yes.

Rachel Dratch (48:23)

And also I'll see you at some sort of WNBA game, I hope, because don't you still go to those? Do you still go?

Aubrey Plaza (48:30)

Yeah. I love the wnba.

Rachel Dratch (48:32)

That's where I've run into you a few times, too.

Irene Bremis (48:33)

Oh, yeah.

Aubrey Plaza (48:35)

Yeah.

Rachel Dratch (48:36)

All right. Aubrey, thank you so much for doing this.

Aubrey Plaza (48:38)

Yeah. Thanks for having me.

Rachel Dratch (48:45)

And you can find me on Instagram at a Dratch. That's R A E Dratch. And you can find Irene at Irenebremis. That's B R E M I S Bremis. And thanks for listening. Thanks for joining me on this journey into the world of Woo Woo. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

Irene Bremis (49:09)

Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch is a.

Rachel Dratch (49:10)

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Irene Bremis (49:13)

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Rachel Dratch (49:15)

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