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Episode: From “Me” to “We”: What Leadership Is Really About | Josh Block
Guest: Josh Block, President of Block Imaging and Author of People Matter at Work
Date: March 24, 2026

Main Theme

This episode features a candid, practical discussion about the transformation of workplace leadership from a traditional, self-centered (“me cycle”) approach to a collective, human-centered (“we cycle”) philosophy. Josh Block shares how leading with humility, fostering inclusion, and being genuinely transparent not only improve workplace culture but also drive business performance. This leadership style is explored through Block’s experience scaling a family business during tough times and his philosophy that “people matter at work.”

Key Discussion Points and Insights

Josh Block’s Business Journey and Early Lessons

• Josh took over as president of his family’s medical imaging company at 29, just after layoffs had unsettled the organization ([03:56]).
• Early business experiences—entrepreneurship and community-focused work—instilled in him a deep respect for work as opportunity and service ([03:56]).
• He acknowledges beginning with more humility than knowledge and credits team collaboration and learning (e.g., Five Dysfunctions of a Team) with his effectiveness ([06:46]).

Quote:
"Leadership is the stewardship of working people… It was forced humility. Well, I'd like to think it was a choice. It really, in many ways, wasn't." — Josh Block ([06:46])

The “Me Cycle” vs. “We Cycle” in Leadership

Me Cycle

• Defined as a workplace culture where leaders and employees focus on self-interest, position, and power, ultimately resulting in disengagement and poor company outcomes ([09:30]).
• Inspired by Gallup disengagement surveys and his own observations ([09:30]).

We Cycle

• Begins with language: "boss" becomes "leader," "employee" becomes "team member" ([11:36]).
• Built on three T’s:
  • Together: Decision-making is collaborative and includes those best positioned to refine outcomes.
  • Thoughtful: Leaders carefully consider the impact of their decisions on others, acknowledging that details matter to people at different career stages.
  • Transparency: Leaders share as much relevant information as possible, fostering ownership and trust ([11:36]-[14:17]).

Quote:
“…if I want them to act like owners, I should treat them like owners. And that's by sharing absolutely as much information as I can, from financial performance all the way across to performance feedback…” — Josh Block ([13:44])

Deep Dives into the Three T’s

Together

• Not democracy; rather, intentional, early, and expert input into big decisions. Saves time by preventing downstream confusion ([14:30]).
• “Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.” ([14:30])

Thoughtful

• Goes beyond analysis, focusing on empathy for others’ needs and experiences ([18:13]).
• Encourages leaders to "turn the tables" and ask: How would I feel in their position? ([18:35])

Transparency

• Encompasses strategy, operations, and personal feedback ([21:36]).
• Uses structured themes (e.g., 6–9 month goals) and consistent, short feedback loops ([23:18]).
• Advocates for sharing both certainties and unknowns to build trust—not to increase anxiety but to lead with honesty ([25:34]).

Creating Psychological Safety and Feeling Seen

• Core outcome of the “we cycle” is that people feel safe, seen, and successful ([31:44]).
• “Seen” means recognizing team members as whole people with lives and aspirations beyond their roles ([38:47]).
• Regularly asking “What’s on your mind?” invites openness and human connection ([38:47]).
• Leadership at scale: Values-driven promotion ensures those who embody the culture rise to influence ([40:56]).

Quote:
“…sometimes they'll say, my daughter has a regional soccer game tonight or my son's birthday party… Man. When we can see people beyond what they can do for us into who they really are as a human being… something really, really powerful starts to happen.” — Josh Block ([39:16])

Sustaining the Culture at Scale

• As organizations grow, microcultures develop. Leaders can always influence their sphere, regardless of company size ([26:36]).
• Promoting both technical excellence and cultural embodiment sustains the “we cycle” through multiple layers ([41:22]).
• Leaders are accountable for living and cascading these values, not just financial performance.

Pitfalls and Ethical Questions

• Comparison trap: People resist believing the “we cycle” can work for them due to industry or size differences ([28:17]).
• Performance vs. People: False dichotomy—both can and must coexist. The “we cycle” fuels sustainable performance ([28:49]).
• Authenticity: Practices must be genuine. Trying to “fake” care or transparency is quickly recognized as hypocrisy ([34:09]).

The Role of Faith and Broader Values

• For Block, faith undergirds the belief that “people matter.”
• The principles of “together, thoughtful, transparent” reflect a value system that transcends business ([37:01]).
• The goal: a culture of trust, ownership, and generosity ([47:46]).

Quote:
“…if you believe that people matter, this is not a book to teach you how to manipulate people to get what you want… This is actually how we take an intention… [and] embody it well.” — Josh Block ([31:44])

Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• Failing Alone:
  [17:08] – “When I see people failing alone, that's one of the most troublesome things.”
• Transparency & Feedback Analogy:
  [24:19] – Giving feedback like lifting weights: frequent, small feedback builds capacity for both giving and receiving.
• Leadership as Identity:
  [46:59] – “When it's actually just flows out of who you are and your identity as a leader… it really becomes incredibly powerful.”
• Giving It Away:
  [61:52] – Leadership is about giving responsibility and credit to others, not hoarding power.

The Practice and Cost of Leadership

• The authentic “we cycle” requires self-awareness, letting go of ego rewards, and focusing on intrinsic motivations ([49:21]).
• Leaders must care for themselves by sharing leadership, maintaining balance, and investing in others’ growth ([61:52]).
• Leadership is “giving it away”; success is when others say, “We did it ourselves.” ([62:52])

Important Timestamps

• 03:56: Josh’s early business journey; family business context.
• 06:46: Humility and learning in leadership.
• 09:30: Me cycle vs. we cycle.
• 11:36: Introduction of the three T’s (together, thoughtful, transparent).
• 14:30: Practical execution of “together.”
• 18:13: Thoughtfulness as empathy, not just analysis.
• 21:36: Detailed discussion of transparency.
• 23:18: Three questions for transparency.
• 28:49: The false split between people and performance.
• 31:44: Underlying values and ethics of the three T’s.
• 38:47: Creating “seen” experiences for team members.
• 41:22: Cascading culture in a growing company.
• 46:50: “Momentous Leadership” and impact in brief encounters.
• 47:46: On consistency, appreciation, and not seeking praise.
• 61:52: Leadership as giving responsibility and credit away.

Conclusion

Josh Block’s leadership story is one of unlocking business growth by putting people at the center. The three T’s—Together, Thoughtful, Transparent—are both principles and daily practices that move companies from the “me cycle” to the “we cycle,” creating cultures where employees feel safe, seen, and successful. The outcome isn’t just better business results, but empowered people who trust, take ownership, and act generously.

Recommended Reading:

• People Matter at Work by Josh Block
• Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick Lencioni
• Give and Take by Adam Grant
• Leadership and Self-Deception by Arbinger Institute
• The Coaching Habit by Michael Bungay Stanier

Learn more: peoplematteratwork.com ([63:12])

Selected Quotes:

• "Leadership is about giving it away. If you live out the three T's and you have people who feel safe, seen, and successful…they are generous, they own, and they trust—you got it." — Josh Block ([61:00])
• “If you live for the praise of men, you'll die by their criticism, that’s something that I'll be spending the rest of my life learning.” — Josh Block ([48:57])
• "The only thing worse than working in a toxic company is having a poor experience in a healthy company because you're like, 'Does anybody see my boss and how they're treating me?'" — Josh Block ([54:38])

For those who haven't listened:
This episode is an essential listen for leaders who believe company culture should be as intentional and rigorously designed as any product—where leadership is measured in safety, trust, and generosity, not just numbers. Josh Block offers both the philosophical and practical roadmap on how to actually build that kind of workplace.