When Kim Clark was completing research for his doctoral dissertation, he compared two nearly identical cement plants located five miles apart. As an economist, he couldn’t pinpoint why one plant was 70% more productive than the other. Determined to solve the mystery, he visited both plants and quickly found the answer: the more productive plant had a flat hierarchy and a collegial culture.

Kim, Jonathan, and Erin Clark are co-authors of the book Leading Through, which explores the transition from traditional leadership models to a more human-centered approach that integrates the soul, heart, and mind to create thriving organizations.

In this episode, Dart, Kim, Jon, and Erin discuss:
- Morality in business
- The “power-over” paradigm that humans default to
- Decoupling leadership from hierarchies
- A new paradigm of leadership called “leading through”
- How to activate the soul, heart, and mind in leadership
- Using modularity to lead through work
- And other topics…

Kim, Jonathan, and Erin Clark are co-authors of the book Leading Through, which explores the transition from traditional leadership models to a more human-centered approach that integrates the soul, heart, and mind to create thriving organizations.

Kim Clark is the NAC Distinguished Professor of Management at the BYU Marriott School of Business and former President of BYU-Idaho. He is also the former Dean of Faculty of the Harvard Business School. Within his roles, Kim focuses on the role of leaders in creating outstanding performance, modularity in design, and the interaction of technological change and competition in industry evolution.

Jonathan Clark is an associate professor of management at UT San Antonio. Prior to UT, he served as executive director of the Master of Health Administration program at Penn State. His research has been published in the Academy of Management Journal, Health Affairs, and Leadership Quarterly, among others.

Erin Clark is a managing director with Deloitte Consulting's Human Capital practice, where she specializes in helping clients improve performance, drive change, and create sustainable advantages through people. With over two decades of experience advising clients across industries, she believes strongly in the work of leadership to activate and unleash human potential.

Resources mentioned:
Leaning Through, by Kim, Jonathan, and Erin Clark: https://www.amazon.com/Leading-Through-Activating-Heart-Leadership-ebook/dp/B0CT49ZG1K
Humanocracy, by Gary Hamel: https://www.amazon.com/Humanocracy-Creating-Organizations-Amazing-People-ebook/dp/B07B9HFSHX

Connect with the Clark family:
www.leadingthrough.co
Kim Clark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-b-clark-19664920a/
Jonathan Clark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-clark-3734616/
Erin Clark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erineliseclark/

Work with Dart:
Dart is the CEO and co-founder of the work design firm 11fold. Build work that makes employees feel alive, connected to their work, and focused on what’s most important to the business. Book a call at 11fold.com.

The Heart of Leadership: Emerging from the Dark Ages of “Power-Over” Management | The Clark Family

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