WeWow on the Weekend (8/31/25)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Wow in the World – WeWow on the Weekend (8/31/25)

Podcast: Wow in the World
Hosts: Mindy Thomas & Guy Raz
Date: August 31, 2025
Episode: WeWow on the Weekend
Main Theme:
A playful weekend episode featuring Dennis and Reggie the pigeon, answering kids’ science questions, tackling a riddle, and exploring a classic Wow in the World story on the science of cooperation—particularly how chimpanzees show altruism and sharing, and what that can teach us about humans.

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Episode Overview

• Engaging Q&A: Dennis fields quirky science questions and riddles from listeners, with Reggie and ventriloquist dummy “Baby Dennis” adding humor and energy.
• Featured Tinkercast Throwback: The group revisits a first-season Wow in the World segment: “Sharing Caring Chimpanzees,” where Mindy and Guy explore the science of cooperation through studies of chimpanzee behavior.
• Underlying Message: Highlighting how understanding animal cooperation gives insights into human kindness and working together.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Guinness World Record WOW Fact Hotline ([00:13]–[01:29])

• Mindy and Guy announce their near achievement of the world record for most submissions to a fact hotline and encourage listeners to participate.
  • “We need over 4,000 of you to call us with your wow.” – Guy Raz [00:44]
  • Hotline: 1-888-7-WOW-WOW

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2. Dennis & Reggie’s Q&A ([02:43]–[08:53])

• Chocolate-chip "Dennis cakes" vs. blueberry "Reggie cakes": Sets the tone for Dennis’ quirky humor.

• Listener Question #1: How do scents get concentrated into little bottles of perfume?

  • Dennis: “Perfumes smell huge, but their bottles are teeny tiny! How’d they get that huge smell in that tiny bottle?” [04:27]
  • Jokes about pizza-scented perfume and mystery of perfumes.

• Listener Question #2: What does “Baby Dennis” think of skydiving?

  • Dialogue with Baby Dennis:
    • “Skydiving is where you dive out of the sky from a plane!” [05:25]
    • “No thank you. That sounds like sky falling.” – Baby Dennis [05:44]

• Listener Riddle: “I am an ocean with no water, a forest with no trees, a desert with no sand. What am I?”

  • Dennis fumbles, but Baby Dennis guesses “a map.”
  • Answer revealed: "Map" [07:13]
    • “Ha ha. Big Dennis.” – Baby Dennis [07:15]

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3. Inside Tinkercast Studios – Throwback: “Sharing Caring Chimpanzees” ([08:53]–[22:20])

A. Mindy’s Dream: Living with Chimps in Tanzania

• Mindy tries to convince her mom about living with wild chimpanzees at Gombe National Park, Tanzania.
  • “I was just on the phone with my mom, trying to convince her why it’s a good idea for me to move to Gombe national park...” – Mindy [10:04]
• Guy Raz jokes about the logistics and her carrier pigeon, Reggie.
  • “There’s no way your carrier pigeon Reggie is gonna make it that far without getting lost.” – Guy Raz [10:17]

B. Exploring Human & Chimpanzee Cooperation

• Why do humans cooperate?
  • “Cooperation is sort of the bedrock... the basis of our human civilization.” – Guy Raz [12:28]
  • Mindy and Guy discuss how cooperation led to cities, laws, and inventions.
• Are chimps altruistic or selfish?
  • Scientists debated if chimps only help others for personal gain, or if they can be altruistic too.
  • “So now the question is, could chimps be altruistic? Could they be willing to help other chimps even if there was nothing in it for them?” – Mindy [14:07]

C. Chimp Sharing Game Experiment

• Experiment 1: Sharing Choices Game
  • Two chimps (Ty and boy partners) choose between ropes to distribute bananas.
  • “Almost half the time, the boy chimps pulled the rope meaning they would get one less banana for themselves, but enough to share with their friends.” – Mindy [18:42]
  • Demonstrates chimps’ understanding of fairness and sharing, even if it meant less reward for themselves.

D. Chimp Patrol Mission Study

• Experiment 2: Risk & Group Protection
  • Wild chimps volunteer for dangerous patrols, sometimes with no family in the group—meaning personal sacrifice for the greater good.
  • “More than 25%...had no relatives in the group they were protecting.” – Mindy [20:19]
  • Introduces “group augmentation”: chimps help protect the group to ensure everyone’s survival, not just their own kin.

E. Insights about Human Cooperation

• “These studies do help us understand the basic ideas behind cooperation and... putting others before ourselves.” – Mindy [21:08]
• When struggling to share or play fair, Mindy suggests asking: “What would a chimp do? Or more specifically, what would Ty do?” [21:29–21:43]
• Banter: Mindy asks if Guy would help her “pick bugs out of my hair” like a chimp, leading to humorous protests. [21:50–22:14]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Perfumes are a mystery.” – Dennis [04:54]
• “No thank you. That sounds like sky falling.” – Baby Dennis [05:44]
• “I was just on the phone with my mom, trying to convince her why it’s a good idea for me to move to Gombe National Park in Tanzania to live with a bunch of wild chimpanzees. Can you believe she thinks that’s crazy?” – Mindy [10:04]
• “Cooperation is sort of the bedrock... the basis of our human civilization.” – Guy Raz [12:28]
• “Could chimps be altruistic? Could they be willing to help other chimps even if there was nothing in it for them?” – Mindy [14:07]
• “Almost half the time, the boy chimps...would get one less banana for themselves, but enough to share with their friends.” – Mindy [18:42]
• “What would a chimp do?” – Mindy [21:29]

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• [00:13] – Announcement: Fact hotline Guinness record
• [02:43] – Dennis & Reggie open the weekend Q&A
• [04:20] – Q&A: Perfume scents question
• [05:15] – Q&A: Baby Dennis on skydiving
• [06:26] – Listener riddle & answer
• [08:53] – Inside Tinkercast Studios begins
• [09:59] – Sharing Caring Chimpanzees throwback
• [12:28] – Cooperating and civilization
• [14:07] – Chimps’ motives: Altruism vs. selfishness
• [16:05] – The “sharing game” experiment explained
• [18:42] – Boy chimps choose to share, even at a cost
• [20:19] – Wild chimp patrols and group protection
• [21:29] – Lessons for human behavior
• [22:20] – Dennis wraps up, reflects on sharing

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Tone & Style

• Upbeat, humorous, kid-friendly: Light, imaginative banter and easy-to-understand analogies (e.g., banana-sharing games, picking bugs for grooming).
• Encouraging science curiosity: Open-ended questions, silly but sincere explorations, and direct engagement with young listeners.
• Playfully educational: Clear connection between science and everyday situations; invites kids to reflect on their own acts of kindness.

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Conclusion

This episode of WeWow on the Weekend is a joyful mix of goofy weekend banter, interactive listener engagement, and a deep-dive into how chimps’ capacity for sharing reveals the roots of human cooperation and altruism. Mindy and Guy, in their signature playful style, encourage listeners to ask themselves, "What would a chimp do?"—celebrating the importance of kindness, sharing, and working together.

Transcript

[Guy Raz]

Grown Ups Wondery subscribers can listen to wow in the World early and ad free right now. Join Wondery in the Wondery app or Wondery Kids plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Mindy Thomas]

Hey, Wowzer fans, Mindy and Guy here. And before we start the show, we have some very exciting news to share that involves you.

[Guy Raz]

That's right, wowzers. Over the years, over 12,000 of you have called our wow in the World hotline, sharing your wow facts with us every day.

[Mindy Thomas]

That's a lot of wows. And guess what? We are getting super close to achieving the Guinness World Record for the most submissions to a fact hotline.

[Guy Raz]

And that's where we need your help. Wowzers. If you haven't called in to share your wow yet, we need over 4,000 of you to call us with your wow.

[Mindy Thomas]

It could be a big wow or a small wow. Every wow, every fact counts.

[Guy Raz]

And if you have called in, congratulations. Already a part of our world record attempt.

[Mindy Thomas]

But you can still help us get closer to our goal by telling your classmates, friends and pigeons to call in with their wows and facts too.

[Guy Raz]

So what in the wow are you waiting for? Give us a call at 1-888-7-WOW wow. To be a part of our Guinness World record attempt. That's 1-888-7-WOW.

[Dennis]

Wow.

[Guy Raz]

Now let's get back to the show.

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[Dennis]

Ah, ah, ah, ah. We wow on the weekend. We wow on the weekend. We wow on the weekend. Cause this is what we do on the weekend. Talking, laughing. Me and Reggie. Singing, laughing. And then we. Oh, wait, no, I said laughing. Whatever. We wow on the weekend. Yeah. We wow on the weekend. Laugh, clap. We wow on the Weekend. Cause this is what we do on the weekend. Hello and welcome to We Wow. On the Weekend. I'm your host, Dennis. And that's Reggie, my co host and a giant pigeon. Reggie, look. Mother made me pancakes with my name spelled out in chocolate chips. Yeah, they're Dennis cakes. Ah, Reggie. No, these are my Dennis cakes. Besides, you can't have chocolate chips. Those are bad for birds. Here, Mother made your own Reggie cakes. Yeah, they're blueberries. Okay, let's move on to the Q and A segment. The Q and A segment. Alright, let's just get the old answering machine pulled up here. Okay, here we go. Hi, you've reached Dennis from WEW on the Weekend. That's me. Do you have a question? Well, I do too. Lots of them. And who's gonna answer all my questions? You? Probably not, but I guess I can answer yours. Leave me a message.

[Mindy Thomas]

Hey Dennis, So how do scents get concentrated into containers like perfumes and body sprays?

[Dennis]

Oh wow, that's a great question. Because Reggie, think about it. Perfumes smell huge, but their bottles are teeny tiny. How'd they get that huge smell in that tiny bottle? Now, I obviously have no idea how they do it, but I have come across some wild perfumes. Yeah, like one time I tried a perfume that smelled like pizza. Yes, exactly like pizza. I could smell the cheese and the sauce and everything. How'd they get a whole pizza into a tiny bottle? And another time I smelled another one that smelled like D. No, there was no dirt in the bottle, Reggie. My thoughts exactly. Perfumes are a mystery. Next question.

[Mindy Thomas]

Hi Dennis. My name's Matt and I was wondering, what does baby Dennis think of skydiving?

[Dennis]

Wow, great question, Matt. What does baby Dennis, my ventriloquist dummy that looks just like me, think of skydiving? Well, let's ask him. There we go. Hi baby Dennis. Hi, big Dennis. Hi, Reggie. Reggie, say hi to baby Dennis. Tee hee. Okay, Baby Dennis, my friend Matt has a question for you. Matt wants to know what you think of skydiving. Oh wow. I can dive into the sky like Reggie. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Skydiving is where you dive out of the sky from a plane. What? Yeah, you fly up in the sky in an airplane and you jump out of it with a parachute. Ah, no thank you. You don't want to skydive. That sounds like sky falling. Yeah, I guess baby Dennis does not like to skyfall. Next question.

[Mindy Thomas]

Hi Dennis. I was wondering, do you want to hear a riddle?

[Dennis]

Oh boy, do I. Maybe Dennis loves riddles.

[Mindy Thomas]

Okay, the riddle is, I am an ocean with no water. I am a forest with no trees. I am a desert with no sand. What am I?

[Dennis]

Oh, it's. It's. It's. It's. Oh, I know it's. Oh, wait, nevermind. Reggie, don't interrupt me. I'm thinking. It's a forest with no trees. It's. It's gotta be a map. What? Baby Dennis thinks it's a map. Nuh. A desert with no sand. Yeah. Maps have desert and no sand. That can't be right. Reggie, play the answer.

[Mindy Thomas]

Hey, map.

[Dennis]

Ha ha. Big Dennis. Oh, whatever. Thanks for your calls, everyone. Yeah, thanks for your calls, everyone. If you've got a question for me or call and leave us a message. The number is 1-8887-WOW. Wow. I just might answer your question on We Wow on the weekend. Okay, bye baby Dennis. Bye. Okay, now it's time for a little segment I like to call Inside Tinkercast Studios. Inside Tinkercast Studios. This is the part where we revisit an episode of one of my favorite Tinkercast shows. And this weekend, we're revisiting episodes from the very first season of wow. In the World. Let's see, today's episode is called Sharing Caring Chimpanzees. In this episode, Mindy and Guy talk about how humans learn to cooperate. Yeah, just like us, Reggie. You and me cooperate all the time. Okay, fine. Let's do an example. Reggie, can you please hand me that piece of paper over there? No, Reggie, not that one. The other one. The one with my notes on it. Reggie, no, that's not a piece of paper. That's a dirty napkin. I know I said I'd throw the napkin away yesterday, but I forgot. Reggie, would you cooperate, please? You know what? This is a bad example. Let's just play the episode. Okay, Here we go. And play.

[Mindy Thomas]

Wee. Wow. Will be right back. Grown ups, this message is for you. That's it. Now back to the show.

[Dennis]

What in the world?

[Mindy Thomas]

But mom, it's not gonna be forever dangerous. Mom, they're my relatives. And actually, as a human, they are yours too. They are closest relatives here on Earth. I'm not making this up, Lonely mom. They know how to give hugs and kisses just like a real family. We have, I promise you, we have a lot in common. I mean, we both like the outdoors. We both like bananas, and. And we both don't have tails. Oh, I gotta call you back. Guy Raz just walked in. No, he's not wearing the flamingo suit. We don't talk about it anymore. I know you thought it was adorable. I gotta go. I love you.

[Dennis]

Bye, Mom.

[Guy Raz]

Uh, hey, Mindy, what are you doing over there?

[Mindy Thomas]

Hey, Guy Raz. I was just on the phone with my mom, trying to convince her why it's a good idea for me to move to Gombe national park in Tanzania to live with a bunch of wild chimpanzees. Uh, can you believe she thinks that's crazy?

[Guy Raz]

Okay, you know, Tanzania's pretty far away. I mean, all the way in East Africa. And besides, there is no way your carrier pigeon Reggie is gonna make it that far without getting lost. Mindy.

[Mindy Thomas]

I know it's far, Guy Raz, but the more I learn about chimpanzees, the more I just really want one for a best friend. Uh, I mean, I just feel like we have a lot in common.

[Guy Raz]

Well, that's true, Mindy. I mean, as you know, chimps are our closest relatives on planet Planet Earth. But I'm not sure it's such a good idea to live with them. I mean, for one thing, you really love to talk, and I don't think you speak chimpanzee.

[Mindy Thomas]

Guy Raz, chimps can learn to speak sign language. I'll just have them teach me.

[Guy Raz]

I'm not really sure that's how it works. Besides, you'll be living in the middle of the Gombe National Park. No humans to play with, no one to join you in a game of Apples to Apples or Twister. Don't you think you might get bored?

[Mindy Thomas]

Bored? Guy Raz, chimps know how to organize and make up their own awesome games. They do it all the time.

[Guy Raz]

Okay, well, what about personal hygiene? I mean, you know, they don't have hairbrushes in the wild, Mindy.

[Mindy Thomas]

Guy Raz, chimps take grooming very seriously. In fact, they even use grooming as sort of a way to show friendship. So as far as personal hygiene and grooming goes, I'll just let them show how much they love me by picking the bugs and dirt out of my hair. Ugh.

[Guy Raz]

Okay.

[Mindy Thomas]

And I hear it's very calming, which is good for someone like me who freaks out all the time.

[Guy Raz]

Mindy, what even brought this on? I mean, I know that chimps and humans share a lot of the same characteristics, but we're still a very different species from them.

[Mindy Thomas]

Well, that's the thing, Guy Raz. It turns out that we're even more alike than we ever thought before.

[Guy Raz]

Really? More than we ever thought before?

[Mindy Thomas]

Yeah. So for a long time, scientists have been looking for clues as to how humans learn to cooperate, you know, working together instead of just looking out for number one.

[Guy Raz]

Well, I think it's safe to say that most of us humans learned how to cooperate from our parents and our teachers.

[Mindy Thomas]

Yeah, but how did our parents and teachers learn to cooperate? In other words, how did our earliest ancestors learn to cooperate?

[Guy Raz]

Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, when you think about it, cooperation is sort of the bedrock, the foundation, the basis of our human civilization. It's why we Homo sapiens were able to spread all around the world.

[Mindy Thomas]

Yeah, I mean, pretty much everything in our lives is dependent on cooperation. Like how our cities and countries work and how we make and follow all of our rules and laws. And even big inventions like computers and spaceships and waffle tacos, they all require cooperation because without it, life as we know it would be very different.

[Guy Raz]

Wow. Imagine that kind of world.

[Dennis]

Okay.

[Guy Raz]

Wow. Mindy, sometimes your imagination is so loud, even I can hear it myself.

[Mindy Thomas]

Sorry.

[Guy Raz]

Well, I know that chimps also cooperate with each other, but what does that have to do with why we humans cooperate?

[Mindy Thomas]

Well, remember how I said that scientists have been looking for clues to explain how we learned cooperation?

[Guy Raz]

Yeah.

[Mindy Thomas]

Well, it looks like chimpanzees might just hold the clue.

[Guy Raz]

Well, if they're holding the clue, can't scientists just, you know, tickle it out of them? Get it tickle it out of them?

[Mindy Thomas]

Guy Raz, they're not literally holding the clue.

[Guy Raz]

Well, but. Did you like my joke?

[Mindy Thomas]

Oh, boy. Here's the deal. So while scientists have known for a long time that chimps could cooperate, they weren't sure about their motive for cooperating.

[Guy Raz]

You mean they thought it was possible that chimps only help other chimps if they get something out of it?

[Mindy Thomas]

Exactly. Which would be selfish, right?

[Guy Raz]

I'll say.

[Mindy Thomas]

So now the question is, could chimps be altruistic? Could they be willing to help other chimps even if there was nothing in it for them?

[Guy Raz]

So could the chimps be kind and caring and altruistic?

[Mindy Thomas]

Yeah, like the time you tripped over my roller skates at the bottom of the stairs and scraped your knee and I offered to perform surgery on you, but you said, no, thanks. Just give me a band aid and stop leaving your roller skates all over the place and I gave you a band aid and didn't even ask for a prize in return.

[Guy Raz]

I don't know if I'd call that altruistic. I seem to remember that for months after that, you'd go around telling people that you saved my life and introduce yourself at Parties as Guy Raz's personal hero.

[Mindy Thomas]

Hi, I'm Mindy, Guy Raz's personal hero. Now, I don't want to make a big deal out of it, but I did totally save his life from a freak roller skate accident.

[Guy Raz]

Oh, goodness.

[Mindy Thomas]

Yeah, it was really scary. Kind of touch and go there for a while, but. But in the end, I really pulled through. Ooh, I guess I did. Okay. So bad example, but you get it, right? I mean, altruism is doing something nice or helpful for someone else without getting anything in return.

[Guy Raz]

Or even bragging to everyone about the nice thing you did.

[Mindy Thomas]

Yeah, sure. So these scientists wondered that if chimps could be altruistic, then maybe this could be a clue as to how humans evolved to be altruistic too.

[Guy Raz]

Well, how did they go about trying to find.

[Mindy Thomas]

Okay, so there were two big experiments. The first one was conducted by Martin Schmelz and Sebastian Gruneisen at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany.

[Guy Raz]

And what was the experiment?

[Mindy Thomas]

Okay, so pay close attention because this can get a little tricky. Okay, so the first thing they did was create a little chimpanzee sharing game.

[Guy Raz]

That sounds like fun. What was the game?

[Mindy Thomas]

Well, they took two chimps from the Leipzig zoo and put them in two rooms next to each other with a window dividing them in between.

[Guy Raz]

Okay, I'm imagining it.

[Mindy Thomas]

And the first chimp, a girl chimp named Ty, had four choices of ropes to pull.

[Guy Raz]

Okay.

[Mindy Thomas]

Then they had a bunch of partner chimps play one at a time. And these were boy chimps.

[Guy Raz]

Interesting.

[Mindy Thomas]

So the boy chimps knew that Ty had four choices of ropes. If she pulled the first rope, a banana would drop down and Ty would get to eat it all by herself.

[Guy Raz]

Bet she liked that.

[Mindy Thomas]

But if she pulled the second rope, the boy chimp would get the treat all to himself.

[Guy Raz]

This is getting really interesting.

[Mindy Thomas]

And then if Ty pulled the third rope, she and the boy chimp would get a banana. And can you guess what happened? If she pull the fourth rope, a.

[Guy Raz]

Pinata full of smashed bananas would explode all over the lab.

[Mindy Thomas]

Nope. But that's what I'm planning for your surprise party.

[Guy Raz]

My one.

[Mindy Thomas]

Oh, I didn't say anything. Anyhoo, if she pulled the fourth rope, she would pass her turn to the boy chimp, who would then get to choose a rope to pull himself.

[Guy Raz]

So did Ty always pull the first rope and get the banana all for herself and only herself?

[Mindy Thomas]

Well, that's what you would think. But there was a twist.

[Guy Raz]

A twist.

[Mindy Thomas]

And the twist was that Ty was encouraged by the scientists conducting the experiment to always pull the fourth rope and give the boy chimp the choice.

[Guy Raz]

So did the boy chimps know that the scientists were encouraging Ty to give them the rope?

[Mindy Thomas]

Nope. As far as they knew, Ty was just being nice and giving her turn to them.

[Guy Raz]

But Mindy, that meant that if she gave up her turn, the boy chimps could simply pull the first rope and keep all the bananas to themselves.

[Mindy Thomas]

Well, they could, but the scientists began to notice that the boy chimps understood that Tai was doing something nice for them.

[Guy Raz]

So did that mean that the boy chimps were nice back to Ty?

[Mindy Thomas]

Yes. So in most cases, without even being encouraged, the boy chimps would pull the ropes that gave both them and Ty a banana.

[Guy Raz]

What a bunch of pals.

[Mindy Thomas]

I know, right? And there's more.

[Dennis]

What?

[Mindy Thomas]

After Ty passed on her turn, the boy chimps had only two choices. They could pull the first rope and get four treats just for themselves, or pull the second rope and get three treats. Three for themselves and three for Tai.

[Guy Raz]

And what rope did they pull?

[Mindy Thomas]

Well, almost half the time, the boy chimps pulled the second rope. Meaning that they would get one less banana for themselves, but enough to share with their friends. Yep. Those boy chimps were totally thinking of their friend Ty.

[Guy Raz]

Mindy, would you like my last banana?

[Mindy Thomas]

Well, it does look appealing. You get it. You get it.

[Guy Raz]

Let's just move on to the second experiment.

[Mindy Thomas]

Okay. So in the second experiment, Kevin Langergraber, a scientist from Arizona State University, studied why chimps go on patrol missions.

[Guy Raz]

Patrol missions?

[Mindy Thomas]

Yeah. So in the wild, chimps live in big groups, just like we do.

[Guy Raz]

Like in towns or cities or neighborhoods.

[Mindy Thomas]

Exactly. And just like in our towns and cities, chimps basically take on the jobs of community helpers. So one may volunteer to be the group's police officer or security guard and.

[Guy Raz]

Then go on a patrol in the wild. Keeping their eyes out for bad guys.

[Mindy Thomas]

Yeah. And they walk around the very edge of the group territory and look out for rival chimps who might want to attack the group or steal their food.

[Guy Raz]

Well, that sounds like a pretty risky job. I mean, if predators came along, or hunters, those patrol chimps would be the first to get hurt or even killed.

[Mindy Thomas]

I know. Crazy, right? So this scientist, Kevin Langergraper, wondered if these patrol chimps would only volunteer if there was something else in it for them.

[Guy Raz]

In it for them? Like if they were only protecting their own family members.

[Mindy Thomas]

Yeah, and this is kind of what the scientists expected.

[Guy Raz]

But?

[Mindy Thomas]

But it turns out that after 20 years of studying almost 4,000 chimps, in Uganda, the researchers discovered that more than 25%, or one in every four patrol chimps had no relatives in the group they were protecting.

[Guy Raz]

So they were protecting other chimps, even if it meant sacrificing their own safety?

[Mindy Thomas]

Yep. The scientists call this idea group augmentation, which is just a fancy way of saying that chimps know that if they have to sacrifice themselves to protect the whole group, then everyone else in the group is better off, too.

[Dennis]

Huh.

[Mindy Thomas]

And that also means that the group has a better chance of growing and surviving because they'll be able to make more baby chimps.

[Guy Raz]

So does any of this help us to better understand how humans learned to cooperate and be altruistic?

[Mindy Thomas]

Well, we're still learning exactly how we became a species where millions of us live and work together. But these studies do help us understand the basic ideas behind cooperation and, of course, putting others before ourselves.

[Guy Raz]

And so what does it mean for people who still find it, you know, kind of hard to share or play fair or to be nice?

[Mindy Thomas]

Well, I really don't know what that means. And it's safe to say that we all have these moments. But when it comes to putting others first, it doesn't hurt to ask ourselves the question, what would a chimp do?

[Guy Raz]

Or more specifically, what would Ty do?

[Mindy Thomas]

Yeah, she's my North Star.

[Guy Raz]

So are you still thinking of moving to Tanzania to live with the chimpanzees?

[Mindy Thomas]

Well, that depends. I mean, you're basically my best human friend in civilization, so what are the chances you would be willing to altruistically put on this apron and pick bugs out of my hair?

[Guy Raz]

Uh, I guess. Mindy, the last time you put me in an animal costume, I ended up in the flamingo pond at the zoo. There's no way I'm getting in that ape suit.

[Mindy Thomas]

Yeah, that flamingo thing was bananas.

[Dennis]

Yay. That was so nice. Yeah, the chips shared with each other. Hey, Reggie, if we were in the experiment from the episode where you pull ropes to get bananas, what rope would you pull? The first one, Reggie. Oh, you're joking. Okay, yeah, I'd pull the third rope, too. Oh, yeah, I forgot. I don't like bananas because they taste like banana flavor, baby. Dennis likes bananas. No, you don't. You can eat foods. Okay, I think it's time to wrap this up. Thanks to all you listeners out there for tuning in to Wee Wow on the weekend. Remember, if you have a question for me, call and leave me a message at 1-888-7-WOW-WOW. That's 1-888-7- wow Wow. I just might answer your question on We Wow on the Weekend. All right, Reggie, let's go take Baby Dennis for a walk. Hooray. Can we go to the park? No. Can we go to the liberry? It's pronounced Li Ba ry. No wait. I mean Liberry. Wait. Lyberry. Why can't I say it right? Lyberry. Ah.

[Mindy Thomas]

Grown ups. If you like wow in the World, you can listen early and ad free right now on Wondery plus.

[Guy Raz]

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[Mindy Thomas]

And before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short [e-mail] survey. Thanks for joining us for this edition of Wewow on the weekend. Our show is written by Ruth Morrison and Jed Anderson. Original sound design and production is done by Henry Moskal and Marion Lozano with help from Jed Anderson and Tyler Thole. Original music for WEWOW on the Weekend is composed and performed by Tyler Thole.

[Guy Raz]

Special thanks to Steph Sosa, Rebecca Caban and all of the other tinkerers at Tinkercast hq.

[Mindy Thomas]

There's still time to share your wee wow crafternoon challenges with us grown ups. You can upload pictures and videos of your projects to [e-mail] share or call us at 1-888-7-WWOW.

[Guy Raz]

Our website is tinkercast.com there you can learn more about becoming an official member of the World Organization of wowzers, learn about upcoming events, shop our shop and pick up a copy of the latest edition of our number one New York Times best selling book series wow. In the Wild.

[Mindy Thomas]

Thanks again for thinking, tinkering, experimenting and exploring with us us this week. Meet us back here on Monday for Wow in the World. And remember who wows We Wow.

[Dennis]

Wow in the World was made by.

[Mindy Thomas]

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