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Victoria Craig
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Micah Madenberg
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Angus Baric
So what's happened is like all this SpaceX property, including homes for employees and all this launch and rocket infrastructure is now inside this town. It wasn't as of just a few days ago. And part of it for SpaceX is like building up this workforce at this site. The idea is you can more rapidly or streamline the process to develop amenities for current and future staff that are going to be building these complex and enormous vehicles that SpaceX is launching from Starbase. That's part of it. And that came in a letter that one of the top executives at SpaceX, sort of on the ground in South Texas, sent to county officials late last year. She also said that there are some kind of civil or traditionally governmental tasks, if you will, that the company is now handling that would be better managed by a public entity.
Micah Madenberg
Is there a slight hiccup for Starbase as a municipality, though? Because Texas code has a provision that bars conflicts of interest from. From those who run these cities if they also receive benefits from the companies themselves too.
Angus Baric
In this case, SpaceX, we'll see how that plays out. As a municipality with elected officials, all of those folks are gonna have to follow local government code and statutes on everything from open records, to posting meeting times for official meetings, to following conflict of interest rules. The three people that were elected to oversee Starbase, the town, all have ties to SpaceX, and I'm sure all three of them are thinking about how to navigate what's required in Texas state code, and particularly around those conflicts of interest questions.
Micah Madenberg
Back in 2023, after a visit to Starbase, you wrote that pretty much everyone can agree on one thing, that Starbase is disruptive. So now, a year and a half later, what's the mood like there? Does this effort to make Starbase official have support from the locals around it more so maybe than it did before?
Angus Baric
Just to take a little bit of a quick step back, this corner of Texas, Cameron County, Texas, is in the very far southeastern tip of the state, and where Starbase has been developed over the years, for many, many years, for decades was pretty empty. There had been some housing development and some folks were living out there, but it was basically a natural area with a public beach that a lot of folks used in the region. And SpaceX industrialized the landscape, so to speak, built this enormous factory, added other production sites and added testing facilities for really powerful rockets. And that's upset a lot of people. There are folks that are really frustrated with beach closures. There are folks that claim SpaceX is not a good steward of the local environment. So SpaceX pushes back on that idea very strongly. And then there are a lot of people look who in Cameron county who are working at SpaceX and who have businesses that are tied to Starbase. And those economic opportunities have generated a lot of support from a lot of people in the region, in the county, and among elected officials. Starbase, again, more broadly is part of the Rio Grande Valley, which historically has been among the poorest in the country. And there are a lot of folks and a lot of elected officials who are very eager for locals to get training, get jobs and work on what's meant to be a real path breaking space vehicle.
Micah Madenberg
So this relationship is complicated.
Angus Baric
Yeah. And the thing is, this is also a growth story. SpaceX wants to do more launches at the site. They want to build more rockets. We'll be watching to see how that relationship between the company, the new town, and the broader community in Cameron county and the Rio Grande Valley evolves.
Micah Madenberg
That was WSJ reporter Micah Madenberg there. Coming up from US Public enemies to celebrity status. We'll take you to a crypto event in Dubai where enthusiasm for the industry and its executives is sky high as a US crackdown goes in reverse. That's after the break.
Victoria Craig
This is a CRM meltdown, so it gets worse.
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Victoria Craig
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Micah Madenberg
To a finance event in Dubai we go. But not just any finance event. Token 2049 was a star studded crypto industry party where last week the champagne flowed, people flew overhead on ziplines, and industry high flyers, once the targets of U.S. regulators, were treated as celebrities and. Gentlemen, do we have any fans?
Bob
I have CZ in the house.
Micah Madenberg
And oh, were there fans of cz? That's Changpeng Zhao, founder of the crypto exchange binance. He served four months in prison and paid a record $4.3 billion fine to the US for allowing terrorists, drug traffickers and sanctioned actors to move billions of dollars through his platform. But that only added to CZ's appeal for one fan, who our reporter Angus Baric caught up with at the event. CZ is a legend. If he wasn't here, then the crypto would have been very bad. A legend, as the man calls him. Angus, CZ wasn't the only crypto executive in attendance at this event in Dubai. Who else was there?
Eric Trump
Yeah, so token 2049 depicts itself as like the biggest crypto event in the world. There were 15,000 people who attended. They paid up to $5,000 to be there. And, you know, they were mainly there because the biggest, most powerful, kind of richest people in the crypto industry all showed up to give talks as well. There was Changpeng Zhao or CZ, the founder of Binance. He was in a US jail until only six months ago. There were the CEOs of Tether and the founder of Tron, who'd both been under significant amount of pressure under the previous administration. Eric Trump turned up, along with the son of President Trump's special envoy, Steve Witkoff. The two of them are running the Trump family's own crypto venture, world, Liberty Financial. So, yeah, it was kind of an incredible mix of characters from all over the industry. Cz, Justin Sun, Paolo Arduino, Arthur Hayes. The industry views these figures as people that have been put under a lot of pressure by the government and have emerged out the other end. And they have these kind of Robin Hood Personas. And, you know, at the conference, for instance, with Sisi, people are pursuing him for photos. They had to close off the main stage area where he was speaking because so many people were desperate to hear him talk. I mean, they're superstars within the community.
Micah Madenberg
And as you're alluding to there, this is quite a stark difference from the mood that's really gripped the industry over the last couple of years, certainly in the last year when the US Was quite aggressively trying to rein in the crypto industry. This event, as you've described, was a who's who of crypto executives caught up in lawsuits and allegations of illegality. Over the last couple of years, what's really changed for the industry now, the.
Eric Trump
Biggest thing that changed is that President Trump came into power on a platform that he was going to unshackle the crypto industry of all the regulations, which in the industry's view, had been thwarting its growth in the US and so far, he's lived up to those expectations to a great degree. He's been dismantling, redirecting the specific kind of law enforcement agencies that had been targeting particular crypto companies. He's also been granting pardons to a number of high profile crypto figures, including Arthur Hayes, who was the co founder of a crypto exchange called BitMEX. Arthur Hayes was also at this conference. At one point, he took to a zipline that was running over the outdoor area to shout, everybody should be buying bitcoin at this very second. So, yeah, you know, the industry there in a very kind of jubilant mood at the moment. All the kind of obstacles that they have been facing have been largely torn down, and they don't see any sign of that changing, at least under the current administration.
Micah Madenberg
You mentioned the current administration and you mentioned Eric Trump's presence at this conference, too. The Trump family seemed to have been a pretty big draw among attendees.
Eric Trump
Yeah, certainly in terms of kind of industry participants, the Trump family's entrance into the crypto market is probably the most drastic change over the last kind of six months. World Liberty Financial, they're being very proactive and striking business deals with other members of the industry, including companies that have had a lot of kind of legal and kind of criminal problems in the past. They've launched their own stablecoin, which is a cryptocurrency pegged to the dollar. And of course, this has led to a lot of concern about the conflicts of interest which now exist between when you have the president's family doing business with companies that have a huge incentive to clean up their previous legal problems.
Micah Madenberg
What has the White House said about President Trump's involvement or perceived involvement in the cryptocurrency industry himself?
Eric Trump
World Liberty Financial is run by Eric Trump and Zach Witkoff and a number of others. So the company says that President Trump doesn't have a direct role in the running of the company. The president also divested his assets into a trust which is being run by his children, which, which, as the White House spokesman told us, means that there are no conflicts of interest.
Micah Madenberg
That was Angus Baric, a WSJ reporter covering crypto, financial crime and markets. And that's it for Tech News Briefing. Today's show was produced by Julie Chang with deputy editor Chris Sinslate. I'm Victoria Craig for the Wall Street Journal. We'll be back this afternoon with TNB Tech Minute. Thanks for listening.
Victoria Craig
This is a CRM meltdown.
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Release Date: May 6, 2025
Host/Author: The Wall Street Journal
In this episode of the WSJ Tech News Briefing, host Victoria Craig delves into a transformative development in the aerospace industry: the establishment of Starbase, SpaceX’s rocket production and launch facility, as an independent municipality in southeastern Texas. This bold move signifies a new chapter for SpaceX, offering the company greater autonomy and fostering a unique community centered around space exploration and innovation.
The episode opens with a significant political development where voters have approved the creation of Starbase as a self-governing town within Cameron County, Texas. The final vote tally stood at 212 to 6 in favor, solidifying the area's transition from a SpaceX operational site to an independent municipality.
Notable Quote:
"Ready for incorporation. Elon Musk's rocket building town gets the green light from voters to make a slice of southeastern Texas its own self-governing municipality. What's it mean for SpaceX then? A new era in freedom."
— Victoria Craig [00:15]
The incorporation of Starbase as a municipality has profound implications for SpaceX. By governing its own affairs, SpaceX can streamline operations, enhance infrastructure development, and better cater to the needs of its growing workforce. This autonomy is expected to accelerate SpaceX’s ambitious plans for deep space missions and rocket production.
Notable Quote:
"The idea is you can more rapidly or streamline the process to develop amenities for current and future staff that are going to be building these complex and enormous vehicles that SpaceX is launching from Starbase."
— Angus Baric [02:18]
Starbase’s transformation has elicited mixed reactions from the local community. While many applaud the economic opportunities and job creation brought by SpaceX, others express concerns over environmental stewardship and the rapid industrialization of previously natural landscapes.
Micah Madenberg, the WSJ reporter covering the business of space, highlights the diverse perspectives within Cameron County. The region, historically one of the poorest in the United States, sees SpaceX’s presence as a beacon of economic revitalization, albeit not without its challenges.
Notable Quote:
"SpaceX industrialized the landscape, so to speak, built this enormous factory, added other production sites and added testing facilities for really powerful rockets. And that's upset a lot of people."
— Angus Baric [04:05]
The establishment of Starbase as a municipality introduces new governance dynamics. Texas law mandates that city officials avoid conflicts of interest, especially when they have ties to major corporations like SpaceX. With all three elected officials of Starbase having affiliations with SpaceX, adhering to state regulations will be crucial to maintaining transparency and integrity in local governance.
Notable Quote:
"All of those folks are gonna have to follow local government code and statutes on everything from open records, to posting meeting times for official meetings, to following conflict of interest rules."
— Angus Baric [03:29]
As SpaceX continues to expand its operations at Starbase, the relationship between the company, the newly formed town, and the broader Cameron County community remains pivotal. The episode underscores the potential for Starbase to become a hub of technological innovation and economic growth, while also navigating the complexities of local governance and community relations.
Notable Quote:
"This is also a growth story. SpaceX wants to do more launches at the site. They want to build more rockets. We'll be watching to see how that relationship between the company, the new town, and the broader community in Cameron county and the Rio Grande Valley evolves."
— Angus Baric [06:00]
The incorporation of Starbase as its own municipality marks a significant milestone for SpaceX and the region of southeastern Texas. As the company leverages this newfound autonomy to further its space exploration ambitions, the delicate balance between industrial growth and community well-being will be essential. The WSJ Tech News Briefing provides an insightful analysis of these developments, offering listeners a comprehensive understanding of the implications for both SpaceX and the local community.
Produced by: Julie Chang
Deputy Editor: Chris Sinslate
Host: Victoria Craig
Reporter: Micah Madenberg