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Luke Vargas
Aviation disaster as a passenger jet and military helicopter collide over the Potomac We've got the latest from Washington. Plus, the Trump administration intensifies its push to eliminate government DEI workers and the emergence of Chinese AI firm Deepseek raises questions for chip industry leader Nvidia, even as Microsoft and Meta's earnings reveal tens of billions in fresh capital spending.
Dan Gallagher
Deepsea didn't exactly show Ukraine can get away with spending no money at all. But Nvidia has taken a big hit on the deep Seq news because of worries that companies can build AI for a lot less and spend a lot less on Nvidia's chips.
Luke Vargas
It's Thursday, January 30th. I'm Luke Vargas for the Wall Street Journal and here is the AM edition of what's news, the top headlines and business stories moving your world Today. Search and rescue efforts are underway in the Potomac river after a mid air collision last night between a military helicopter and an American Airlines regional jet landing at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. The collision occurred just moments before the Bombardier jet was set to touch down during a busy stretch of arrivals. The American Airlines flight, originating from wichita, Kansas, had 60 passengers and four crew on board while three troops were aboard the Black Hawk helicopter, which was conducting a training flight. Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser declined to say if she was aware of any survivors, and Kansas Senator Roger Marshall, he was bracing for the worst. Journal reporter John McCormick has more.
John McCormick
I got to the airport probably about 30 minutes after the crash happened. There were just enormous numbers of emergency vehicles on the tarmac. Fire officials for the Washington area told us. You know, roughly 300 first responders responded to the incident. Local officials from the Airport authority and Fire and Rescue and a couple members of the U.S. senate from Kansas as well as the new Transportation secretary, briefed reporters right around 1am local time, roughly four hours after the crash occurred. They described the search and rescue scene as extremely challenging. It's 100% in water and there's large chunks of ice that they're navigating around, not a lot of light. So very difficult working conditions to get divers in the water and try to start, I guess, pulling bodies out of those aircraft.
Luke Vargas
Authorities expect the search and rescue effort to take several days, and the airport will remain closed until at least 11am today, according to the FAA. The National Transportation Safety Board will lead an investigation into the crash. And Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said the army and Defense Department are launching their own probe. The crash is the first fatal incident in the US involving a major airline in more than 15 years, but follows a recent rise in near misses and narrowly averte crashes. And for more on this story throughout the day, visit our live blog@WSJ.com we are exclusively reporting that Trump administration officials are ordering federal agencies to identify more government employees to axe in connection with a presidential ban on DEI efforts. That's according to current and former officials familiar with internal conversations and comes after various government offices have cut dozens of positions and canceled millions of dollars in contracts. Agencies have responded to Trump's executive orders by telling employees to report ongoing DEI related work to a tip line or potentially face quote, adverse consequences. And on tap today in Washington, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. President Trump's health secretary pick, is set to face another day of Senate testimony, while FBI pick Kash Patel and Director of National Intelligence nominee Tulsi Gabbard begin their Senate confirmations. Israeli authorities say they'll stop working with the main United nations agency that cares for Palestinian refugees as of today. Israel has long been at odds with the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, known as unrwa, and passed a law back in October that effectively bans the agency from operating in Palestinian territories. The UN says that bill violates international law. We asked Journal Middle east correspondent Omar Abdel Bakhr what today's news means for Palestinians and the fragile Gaza ceasefire.
Omar Abdel Bakhr
What it likely means is disruption of aid deliveries within Gaza. And part of the ceasefire deal includes a clause about increasing aid deliveries in Gaza. But it's unclear how smooth that may happen or if it may happen at all with the banning of the largest aid organization there, which, in addition to bringing its own aid in, is sort of the backbone of all aid distribution within Gaza. They handle other organizations aid, they establish distribution points within Gaza. So ultimately, what it means in Gaza is there likely may be a disruption in delivery of food and delivery of tents, disruption in health services within Gaza, clean water distribution within Gaza. So it's really a multifaceted issue.
Luke Vargas
The UN says in the absence of unrwa, it's the legal responsibility of Israel as the occupying military power in the west bank and the Gaza Strip to take care of the Palestinians under its jurisdiction. Israel declined to comment on that claim, but said its problem is with UNRWA and that aid will continue to flow. Meanwhile, Hamas this morning released a 20 year old Israeli soldier, one of three Israeli hostages expected to be freed today. The two sides agreed to today's swap, which comes on top of the weekly exchanges they'd negotiated in order to smooth over tensions around the Gaza ceasefire deal. Coming up, we'll look at what Microsoft and Meta's earnings commentary tells us about how industry leaders see the emergence of China's Deep Seek and Softbank eyes a big investment in OpenAI. Those stories and more after the break.
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Luke Vargas
Microsoft and Meta got the ball rolling on a flurry of big tech earnings updates yesterday, results that come as investors try to make sense of how the sudden emergence of AI competition on the cheap from China's Deep SEQ could shake up the AI race or reorder massive investments that are being pursued by industry leaders. Wall Street Journal heard on the Street Tech columnist Dan Gallagher tuned in to Microsoft and Meta's earnings calls for some answers. Joins me now from San Francisco. All right, Dan, what did we learn yesterday evening?
Dan Gallagher
Well, we learned that the money's still going out the door, 37.4 billion is what their combined capital spending was just in the December quarter. And the commonality that Microsoft and Meta both have is they're both now expending about 30% of their revenue on capital expenditures. And relative to other tech giants like Google and Amazon, who spend more in the mid teen range for Capex, it's really significant.
Luke Vargas
I'm curious, Dan, if the big topic of conversation this week, the entrance onto the scene of Chinese AI company Deepseek, which managed to develop a large language model at a fraction of the cost of some of their competitors, came up in these earnings calls, did it?
Dan Gallagher
Both companies address a little differently and Deepseek actually has different implications for them because Deepseek is an open Source AI model. And Meta is one of the few big tech stocks that have actually come up since the whole Deep Seq revelation last week. And that's because Meta2 is also pursuing this open source AI. And so deep Seek Success has kind of been seen as like validating Meta's approach a little bit. But what was interesting in the call yesterday is that Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg was interested in the developments that Deepseek brought, but also mentioned the fact that AI is still going to depend on compute power. And so he specifically said our ability to spend a lot is a competitive advantage. So for their part, Meta didn't broadcast any plans to slow down their spending. In fact, late last week they said they were going to really ramp up their spending in 2025.
Luke Vargas
It sort of sounds like you're saying there, Dan, that even if the example of deepseek is a bit humbling, showing that a lot can be done with relatively little, that's not going to meaningfully change how, for instance, Microsoft and Meta are going about their long term plans. And if anything, maybe they can just get more from the money that they've already committed to capital expenditures.
Dan Gallagher
Deepsea didn't exactly show that you can get away with spending no money at all. There's still a lot of advantage to having the compute power that actually costs a lot. What Deepseek showed is that you can get to a quality AI and there's some tricks to make it a little more cost effective. And both companies actually spoke well of that and are probably going to adopt some of those changes. Especially Microsoft noted that as computing gets more efficient and cheaper, adoption grows. But these are companies that their advantage right now is the fact that they have immense cash and resources and so they can spend. And keep in mind there's a caution that for DeepSeek, there's still a lot of questions about what did they really have, what did they really use based on the numbers they reported.
Luke Vargas
All right, so maybe too early to gauge its impact like Zuckerberg said yesterday, but Nvidia investors certainly beg to differ. We have been speaking about Microsoft and Meta in their own right, but they are also two of the chip makers biggest clients. And I'm curious what all the Deep Seek talk this week could mean for the semiconductor industry.
Dan Gallagher
Well, Nvidia has seen its market value really take a hit over the last week because of the Deep SEQ news and because that raises the worry that companies can build AI for a lot less and spend a lot less on Nvidia's chips. Yesterday's reports are going to leave that question a little bit in doubt. We saw Nvidia stock go down a little bit with these reports. Plus there was this added report from Bloomberg about how the Trump administration may clamp down further on the chips they can sell into China because of deep sea breakthroughs for Meta and Microsoft. There's still a question of where capital spending is going to go, especially beyond this year. So there wasn't any new news on that front. So once we see maybe Amazon and Google's reports next week, maybe we'll get some more clarity on where some of these big Nvidia customers are going to go with their spending and investment. Right now, it's still a little bit unclear.
Luke Vargas
That was Wall Street Journal heard on the street tech columnist Dan Gallagher in San Francisco. Dan, as always, thanks for staying up late for us.
Dan Gallagher
My pleasure. Thanks for having me.
Luke Vargas
Foreign we are reporting that SoftBank is in talks to invest 15 to 25 billion dollars in OpenAI, potentially deepening the relationship between the two companies. Some of that equity investment could be used for OpenAI's commitment to Stargate, a joint venture with SoftBank and others that it announced last week at the White House. That is according to a person familiar with the matter who says the deal would make SoftBank OpenAI's biggest investor, displacing Microsoft, which has committed nearly $14 billion so far. However, SoftBank would have a smaller stake in OpenAI's for profit division as Microsoft invested earlier. The Financial Times previously reported on the investment talks. And in other market news today, Tesla shares are up in off hours trading Even though the EV maker's core automotive business saw revenue drop 8% in the most recent quarter. Investors were cheered by comments made on yesterday's earnings call by CE Elon Musk, who talked about fully self driving cars hitting US roads this year and shared a goal of building 10,000 Optimus humanoid robots by the end of 2025. And on deck today, more tech earnings with Apple and Intel due to report after the closing bell. We'll also have results from Visa, MasterCard and Blackstone, among others. And get a first look at fourth quarter U.S. gDP at 8:30am Eastern. And that's it for what's news for this Thursday morning. Today's show was produced by Kate Bullivant and Daniel Bok with supervising producer Christina Rocca. And I'm Luke Vargas for the Wall Street Journal. We will be back tonight with a brand new show. Until then, thanks for listening.
WSJ What’s News – Detailed Summary
Episode Title: American Airlines Jet Collides With Army Helicopter in D.C.
Host: The Wall Street Journal
Release Date: January 30, 2025
In the early hours of January 30, a devastating mid-air collision occurred over the Potomac River, involving an American Airlines regional jet and a U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter. The accident transpired moments before the Bombardier jet was scheduled to land at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, a notably busy period for arrivals.
John McCormick, a reporter for the Wall Street Journal, provided an on-the-ground account:
"I got to the airport probably about 30 minutes after the crash happened. There were just enormous numbers of emergency vehicles on the tarmac. Fire officials for the Washington area told us... roughly 300 first responders responded to the incident." [02:10]
The American Airlines flight, originating from Wichita, Kansas, carried 60 passengers and four crew members, while the Black Hawk helicopter was transporting three military personnel on a training mission. As search and rescue operations commenced, Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser remained tight-lipped regarding the status of potential survivors. Kansas Senator Roger Marshall expressed deep concern, preparing for the worst possible outcomes.
Due to the severity of the accident, the airport was closed until at least 11 a.m., with authorities anticipating a protracted search and rescue effort lasting several days. The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) is spearheading the investigation, complemented by probes from the Department of Defense.
Luke Vargas highlighted the significance of this incident:
"The crash is the first fatal incident in the US involving a major airline in more than 15 years, but follows a recent rise in near misses and narrowly averted crashes." [03:04]
For continuous updates, listeners are directed to the WSJ live blog at WSJ.com.
Amid the national tragedy, the Trump administration intensified its efforts to dismantle Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) programs within federal agencies. Current and former officials have revealed that federal entities are being directed to identify and eliminate DEI-related positions as part of a broader presidential mandate.
Luke Vargas elaborated:
"Trump administration officials are ordering federal agencies to identify more government employees to axe in connection with a presidential ban on DEI efforts." [03:04]
This move has led to significant cuts, with agencies eliminating dozens of positions and canceling millions in contracts. Federal employees have been instructed to report any ongoing DEI work through a tip line to avoid "adverse consequences." The administration's broader agenda includes continued reductions in DEI initiatives, impacting the workplace culture and operational strategies across various government departments.
In a contentious move, Israeli authorities announced the cessation of cooperation with the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), the primary UN body responsible for Palestinian refugees. This decision disrupts aid distribution in Gaza, a critical component of the ongoing ceasefire agreement.
Omar Abdel Bakhr, Wall Street Journal Middle East correspondent, provided insights:
"What it likely means is disruption of aid deliveries within Gaza. And part of the ceasefire deal includes a clause about increasing aid deliveries in Gaza." [05:13]
He emphasized the multifaceted consequences:
"There likely may be a disruption in delivery of food and delivery of tents, disruption in health services within Gaza, clean water distribution within Gaza. So it's really a multifaceted issue." [05:57]
The United Nations has criticized Israel's decision, asserting that it violates international law by neglecting the legal responsibilities of the occupying power in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Israel, however, maintains that while it disputes UNRWA's operations, it will ensure that aid continues through alternative channels.
In a related development, Hamas released a 20-year-old Israeli soldier, part of a hostage exchange intended to ease tensions surrounding the Gaza ceasefire. This exchange underscores the fragile nature of the current truce and the complex interplay between humanitarian efforts and political maneuverings in the region.
The emergence of Chinese AI firm Deepseek has stirred significant discourse within the tech industry, particularly concerning its impact on leading semiconductor company Nvidia and the broader AI race.
Luke Vargas introduced the topic:
"The emergence of AI competition on the cheap from China's Deep Seek could shake up the AI race or reorder massive investments that are being pursued by industry leaders." [07:31]
Dan Gallagher, WSJ’s tech columnist, provided analysis based on earnings calls from Microsoft and Meta:
"They’re both now expending about 30% of their revenue on capital expenditures. And relative to other tech giants like Google and Amazon, who spend more in the mid-teen range for Capex, it's really significant." [08:04]
When questioned about Deepseek's influence, Gallagher noted that both Microsoft and Meta see value in the advancements brought by Deepseek, particularly its cost-effective AI models. Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg emphasized the enduring importance of compute power:
"AI is still going to depend on compute power. And so he specifically said our ability to spend a lot is a competitive advantage." [08:43]
Gallagher added:
"Deepseek didn't exactly show that you can get away with spending no money at all. There's still a lot of advantage to having the compute power that actually costs a lot." [09:34]
Despite Deepseek's cost-efficient AI developments, Microsoft and Meta remain committed to their substantial capital expenditures, viewing their financial muscle as a critical asset in maintaining their competitive edge in the AI landscape.
Impact on Nvidia:
Deepseek's rise has put Nvidia on the defensive. The semiconductor giant has experienced a decline in market value amid fears that cheaper AI solutions could reduce demand for Nvidia's high-end chips. Gallagher highlighted:
"Nvidia has seen its market value really take a hit over the last week because of the Deepseek news and because that raises the worry that companies can build AI for a lot less and spend a lot less on Nvidia's chips." [10:37]
Furthermore, potential regulatory actions from the Trump administration to limit chip sales to China could further complicate Nvidia's market position.
In a strategic development, SoftBank is reportedly in discussions to invest between $15 billion and $25 billion in OpenAI, potentially becoming the company's largest investor and surpassing Microsoft's existing stake.
Luke Vargas reported:
"SoftBank is in talks to invest 15 to 25 billion dollars in OpenAI, potentially deepening the relationship between the two companies." [11:53]
This investment would support OpenAI's commitment to Stargate, a joint venture announced at the White House, aimed at advancing AI technologies. The Financial Times has previously covered these investment talks, highlighting the significant financial backing SoftBank could provide, which may accelerate OpenAI's initiatives and technological advancements.
Despite an 8% drop in revenue in the latest quarter, Tesla's stock surged in after-hours trading. Investors were buoyed by CEO Elon Musk's ambitious plans and optimistic projections.
Musk outlined future endeavors during the earnings call:
"Fully self-driving cars hitting US roads this year and shared a goal of building 10,000 Optimus humanoid robots by the end of 2025." [07:07]
These bold statements have reinforced investor confidence, suggesting that Tesla's long-term vision and innovation capabilities remain strong drivers of shareholder value, even in the face of short-term revenue setbacks.
Looking ahead, the market anticipates a series of important earnings reports and economic data releases:
These reports are expected to influence market sentiment and investor strategies in the coming days.
Production Credits:
Today's show was produced by Kate Bullivant and Daniel Bok, with supervising producer Christina Rocca.
Host:
Luke Vargas provided comprehensive coverage and insightful analysis, ensuring listeners remain well-informed on the day's most pressing news.
For those looking to stay updated on these stories and more, tune into the next episode of WSJ What’s News or visit the Wall Street Journal's website for real-time updates and in-depth reporting.