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General Motors says strong demand continues for its pickups and SUVs. Plus why gold lost its shine with investors, and the Trump administration is divided on how to respond to powerful new Chinese AI models.
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These models that are being released now could be used to launch cyber attacks or develop new pathogens. Almost anyone can use it, so so that is really setting off alarm bells.
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It's Tuesday, July 21st. I'm Alex Osola for the Wall Street Journal. This is the PM edition of what's news, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today. General Motors today reported better than expected earnings for its second quarter. The car company also raised its outlook for the year. Gas prices are high, but the company says customers still want its pickup trucks and SUVs. Sales of these larger, pricier models helped lift revenue up about 2% for the quarter, even as the automaker sold fewer total vehicles. Like other automakers, GM has turned away from EVs after its latest quarter. It spent almost $11 billion in restructuring charges since the second half of 2025. Looking ahead, GM says it will focus more on investments in Defense. Its GM Defense unit will have almost $700 million in revenue this year. GM CEO Mary Barra says that unit will be a key driver of its future business.
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We are also working with Lockheed Martin and other leading companies to expand speed, scale and resilience in the defense industrial base.
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GM stock closed up almost 5% in markets. Brent crude futures rose 2% to settle at just over $91 a barrel. It's the first close above $90 in more than a month for the global oil benchmark. Global oil supplies face a growing list of disruptions. There's the Houthis in Yemen threatening to blockade Saudi Arabia today. Two oil tankers loaded with Saudi crude turned around before making it out of the Red Sea, adding to the difficulties with the Strait of Hormuz crippled. Meanwhile, Ukrainian efforts to stop Russia have disrupted crude oil shipments in the Black Sea and fuel production at Russian refineries and in stocks. It was a positive day ahead of some big tech earnings with Alphabet, Tesla and IBM reporting tomorrow. The Nasdaq led the gains in the indexes and IT closed up 1.3%. Well, markets might be up today, but lately gold has been down a years Long Gold rally is sputtering since the start of the Iran war on February 28, gold is down 22%. That may seem surprising since investors tend to seek out gold as a safety net during moments of instability. Now, though, investors are looking past the war to the Federal Reserve. Shraddha Dinesh, who covers markets for the Journal, says, we might see the price of gold fall further if the Fed does hike rates.
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If interest rates do go up in the short term, we might see people pull out of the gold market. The value of gold doesn't provide as much for investors during times where interest rates are high as investors can see greater returns on their Treasuries and bonds. And so since gold doesn't pay interest, you're missing out on the opportunity to put your money into a more long term investment while the return but gold
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rose 1 1/2% today, and even with a recent slide, it's still up about 20% for the year. Novo Nordisk has filed a lawsuit against rival Eli Lilly, accusing it of deceptive advertising. The complaint says Eli Lilly used outdated studies and ads to show that its drugs were better for weight loss than Novo Nordisks. The two companies are fighting for control of the nearly $80 billion weight loss drug market. Lilly makes Mounjaro and Zepbound, while Novo's drugs are Ozempic and Wegovy. Novo Nordisk says that more recent data shows that its drugs are similar to Lilly's when it comes to how much weight patients lose. The drugmaker will ask a court to block the ads if Lilly doesn't pull them. Lilly defended the use of the study results, calling them the most direct scientific evidence available. And American snack food company UTS Brands has agreed to be taken private by German snack maker Intersnack group for about $2.9 billion. That deal is expected to close by the end of the Coming up, how hundreds of non citizens ended up voting in New Jersey and the ERAS tour For people who are obsessed with trains. Those stories and more after the break.
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There's some movement on the new tariffs the Trump administration wants to place on Canadian goods, which we told you about this morning. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said today that he and President Trump have agreed to accelerate trade talks to try to avoid those tariffs. They're supposed to go into effect on August 19. In the Oval Office, Trump said Canada has been tough to deal with over many years. The state of New Jersey is removing thousands of non US Citizens from its voter rolls. State officials say a software error was to blame for registering 6,600 non citizens to vote when they applied for driver's licenses in 2023 and 2024. In a press conference today, New Jersey Governor Mikey Sherrill said she learned about the software error last week. It's unacceptable that the vendor released software with such a glaring error. It's unacceptable that the MVC took a year to get this issue fixed, and it's unacceptable that that no one in the previous administration brought this to light, demanded accountability or took action when it happened years ago. Cheryl was referring to the previous administration in New Jersey. She took office in January. The disclosure by New Jersey follows President Trump's White House address last week, in which he said the Department of Homeland Security has concluded that 250,000 noncitizens are registered to vote in New Jersey, California, Nevada and Pennsylvania. His administration is pushing to pass strict new voter ID and proof of citizenship rules in Congress. New Jersey officials said that less than 400 of the noncitizens have voted since they were registered and that there's no evidence that any election results were swayed. There's a state investigation into the registrations, and New Jersey is looking to replace the software vendor behind the error. In congressional testimony today, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth estimated the latest cost of the Iran war. He put it at $37.5 billion. That's about $9 billion higher than earlier figures provided by the Department of Defense. Hexess says the estimate covers some operations and maintenance costs as well as military pay. Lately, Chinese companies have rattled Silicon Valley by releasing AI models they say work just as well as some of the most cutting edge models in the US and the Chinese versions are also A lot cheaper to use. Executives at companies like OpenAI and Anthropic are sounding the alarm. They're suggesting that the models will lead to a dystopian AI future and present unacceptable security risks, though some analysts say the two companies just want to eliminate the competition. Now the Trump administration is weighing whether American companies should be allowed to use those Chinese models at all. Amrit Ramkumar covers tech for the Journal and is here to tell us more. Amrit. So this latest batch of open source AI models from China on, where do the industry benchmarks see them stack up next to models from OpenAI and Anthropic?
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It's still a little too early to tell definitively, but investors, people who have used them. Analysts are generally very excited about this latest batch of Chinese models. Kimi K3 Alibaba's Kwen they're cheaper. They also don't have a lot of the guardrails for security that a lot of the top US Models have. And that's fueling security concerns in Washington. Has even the big US Companies a bit rattled because they're essentially saying, why are you letting these Chinese companies do things that we can't? That's essentially going to attract more of our user base potentially. And it's sort of like another reset in the AI race. It feels like we say that every month now, but it truly is.
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So within the Trump administration, who wants to restrict access to these Chinese models and who doesn't?
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You have officials more focused on national security, like the National Cyber Director, members of the National Security Council saying, hey, wait, we're restricting US Models for these cyber concerns. Maybe we need to do the same thing with these Chinese models. On the other side, you have people like venture capitalist David Sachs, one of Trump's AI advisors, and they think access to the tools is key to preventing cyber attacks and bioweapons and things like that, because they argue that AI can be used for defense.
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And back to these Chinese models, what's the argument being made against letting US Companies use them?
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There are two layers to the security concern. The classic data privacy debate that's been going on for years now, that the data could end up making its way into the hands of the Chinese government. The bigger thing, though, is that these models that are being released now could be used to launch cyber attacks or develop new pathogens, whatever the case might be. So the concern is that you have this open model that is capable of these things and that now it's widely accessible, almost anyone can use it. So that is really setting off alarm bells for a lot of policymakers if you end up in that scenario. And it seems like we could potentially be there very soon, if not already.
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That was WSJ reporter Amrith Ramkumar. Thanks, Amrith.
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Thanks for having me.
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And finally this summer, there's a special showing that's bringing grown men to tears. I'm not talking about the Odyssey, which I just saw last night, and there were no tears shed. Instead, I'm referring to a 1.2 million pound train called Big Boy 4014. True to its name, Big Boy is big. The world's largest operating steam locomotive. It was built in 1941 to haul heavy freight across the Wasatch Mountains between Utah and Wyoming. And this summer it's on a cross country tour. It started in April in Sacramento, California and has made stops in Indiana, Ohio and New York. Thousands of people are coming out to see the Union Pacific train and it's a full body experience. The shaking ground, the din of clanking metal, and the smell of grease and exhaust get stronger as the train approaches. As one man told CBS is just amazing. It touches my heart and it touches my soul. This evening, Big Boy stops in Kansas City, Missouri and will end its tour next week in Cheyenne, Wyoming. And that's what's news for this Tuesday afternoon. Today's show is produced by Danny Lewis and Anthony Banci with supervising producer Tali Arbel. Alex I'm Alex Osoleff for the Wall Street Journal. We'll be back with a new show tomorrow morning. Thanks for listening.
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Episode Title: Chinese AI Models Are Worrying Washington and Silicon Valley
Host: Alex Osola
Key Guest: Amrith Ramkumar, WSJ Tech Reporter
This episode features in-depth coverage of critical developments at the nexus of global business, technology, and politics. The central theme is the growing concern in both Washington and Silicon Valley over the release and rapid advancement of Chinese-developed AI models—raising alarms about cybersecurity, market disruption, and geopolitical competition. The segment also includes major business stories of the day, movement on U.S.-Canadian tariffs, and a human-interest note about the famed Big Boy 4014 locomotive.
[00:59–03:49]
General Motors (GM) Earnings & Strategy
“We are also working with Lockheed Martin and other leading companies to expand speed, scale, and resilience in the defense industrial base.” (Mary Barra, [02:01])
Commodities
Stock Markets
Gold Market
“If interest rates do go up in the short term, we might see people pull out of the gold market. The value of gold doesn’t provide as much for investors during times where interest rates are high…” ([03:22])
[03:49–05:07]
[05:42–08:27]
US–Canada Tariffs
New Jersey Voter Rolls Issue
“It’s unacceptable that the vendor released software with such a glaring error...” ([06:43])
Iran War Costs
[08:27–10:24]
"These models ... could be used to launch cyber attacks or develop new pathogens. Almost anyone can use it, so that is really setting off alarm bells." (Unattributed, [00:47])
“They’re cheaper. They also don’t have a lot of the guardrails for security ... That’s fueling security concerns in Washington. Has even the big US companies a bit rattled because ... that’s essentially going to attract more of our user base potentially. And it’s sort of like another reset in the AI race.” (Amrith Ramkumar, [08:27])
“There are two layers to the security concern. The classic data privacy debate ... The bigger thing ... is that these models ... could be used to launch cyber attacks or develop new pathogens ... it's widely accessible, almost anyone can use it. So that is really setting off alarm bells for a lot of policymakers.” (Amrith Ramkumar, [09:45])
[10:30–11:59]
“It touches my heart and it touches my soul.” (Anonymous attendee, [11:24])
| Segment | Time | |----------------------------------------|-----------| | Major business & market news | 00:34–03:49| | Drug litigation, M&A | 03:49–05:07| | US-Canada tariffs & New Jersey voting | 05:42–08:27| | Chinese AI models in the spotlight | 08:27–10:24| | Big Boy 4014 train feature | 10:30–11:59|
The WSJ What’s News maintains a brisk, informative, and serious tone with periodic moments of color and humanity—especially in the train feature. It strikes a balance between urgency (emerging AI dilemmas) and professional distance.
Summary provided for listeners and readers who want the episode’s essential takeaways—without needing to listen to the full 12 minutes.