Alex Osoleff (2:45)

That was Journal reporter Allison Seider. Thanks, Alison.

Allison Seider (2:48)

Thanks so much for having me.

Alex Osoleff (2:54)

President Trump said today that the US Will raise tariffs on cars and trucks from the European Union to 25% from 15%. The president says the EU isn't complying with the trade agreement it signed last year. European lawmakers are in the process of passing legislation for its side of the deal. The European Commission said the bloc is putting the deal into practice and that it will, quote, keep our options open to protect EU interests if the US doesn't abide by the agreement. The White House didn't say when higher tariffs would go into effect. As you probably know, banks get money from stores whenever customers use their credit card. An Illinois law set to go into effect this summer would ban a small part of those credit card fees. The fees wouldn't be applied to taxes and tips. Stores argue that right now it's unfair that they have to pay credit card fees on money that doesn't end up in their pockets. Now this law may sound like small change in the scheme of things, but it could have big repercussions. Ben Glickman covers payments for the Journal and joins us now. Ben, credit card fees have long been a point of tension between merchants and banks and credit card companies. Some recent developments have been in favor of merchants, like a settlement that lets them reject some credit cards. What do stores hope to gain from the Illinois law if it does go into effect?

Ben Glickman (4:09)

What the merchant trade groups will tell you is that the interchange fees that go to banks, they ended up being quite a significant expense. One business owner I spoke to in Chicago told me that this law alone could save him up to $40,000 per year. That's just from not having interchange fees collected on the taxes and tips. Merchants feel that it would make a relatively meaningful difference for their business itself.

Alex Osoleff (4:36)

And how has the banking industry reacted to this law?

Ben Glickman (4:39)

They feel that the law is, first of all preempted by federal law. They've argued, notably, that this would be extremely challenging to implement. It would be technologically challenging for them to change the current back end of payments in order to allow a differentiation between tip and tax and people's actual bills. They've also argued that smaller credit card issuers that they essentially will be unable to foot the cost of complying with this law. The bank trade groups and some individual banks have said that they would essentially be forced to curtail their credit card service in the state, either withdrawing or pulling back on certain services. But the more important thing from a banking perspective is that this opens up the possibility of other state legislation that could more significantly impede their ability to collect fees.

Alex Osoleff (5:34)

Is this law definitely taking effect?

Ben Glickman (5:37)

So right now it is set to take effect, but there's still a pending court case that a judge could prevent it from taking effect. It could also still be pushed back or repealed by the Illinois state legislature. The bank trade groups have been quite clear that they're focused on preventing this from going into effect, but at this point, we really don't know.

Alex Osoleff (6:00)

That was WSJ reporter Ben Glickman. Thanks, Ben.

Ben Glickman (6:03)

Thanks so much.

Alex Osoleff (6:05)

Coming up, the American cities where the dream of robo taxis is finally becoming a reality. That's after the break. Hi, this is Alex Osola, host of the WSJ's what's News podcast. We bring you the biggest news of the day, from business and finance to global and political developments that move markets. If you're looking for more insights and tools to understand the latest headlines, consider becoming a subscriber to the Wall street journal. Visit subscribe.WSJ.com whatsnews to subscribe now. In international news today, Britain's government said it plans to crack down on pro Palestinian protests. One government official said the protests were incubators of antisemitism. There's been a wave of anti Semitic attacks in the UK Including a knife attack this week in London that seriously wounded two Jewish men. Yesterday, the UK Government raised its terror threat level to severe. That means there's a high likelihood of another attack in the next six months. Prime Minister Keir Starmer called on police to arrest people who chant slogans like globalize the intifada. One organizer of pro Palestinian protests says they don't foster anti Semitism and that many Jewish people attend. And in the latest on the Iran war, Tehran has given Washington a new proposal for ending the conflict. People familiar with the details said Iran has softened conditions for talks. The country has dropped its demand that the US End its blockade before negotiations can start. President Trump, speaking to reporters today as he left the White House, expressed skepticism about the proposal.

Ben Glickman (7:47)

Iran wants to make a deal because they have no military left, essentially, and they want to make a deal. But I'm not satisfied.

Alex Osoleff (7:56)

Iran has indicated to mediators that it could sit down for talks in Pakistan by early next week if Washington is open to the new proposal. But the two sides are still far apart on big issues like Iran's nuclear program. The S and P and Nasdaq rose today and closed at their latest in a string of record highs. Tech stocks climbed after strong earnings from Apple, but The Dow slipped 0.3%. In energy markets, oil prices slipped, but at the pump, US Drivers are paying more. A gallon of regular gas rose today to $4.39 on average. That's up 33 cents from a week ago and is the highest price in almost four years. In tech, the Defense Department has struck deals with eight technology companies to use their AI capabilities in classified settings. Those companies include OpenAI, Google Smart, SpaceX, Microsoft and Amazon. The deals show that Anthropic, which makes the Claude models, may be an outlier in Silicon Valley for not agreeing to the Pentagon's terms. And on American roads, there's been nearly a decade of cycles of hype and disappointment for the dream of self driving taxis. Now they're a reality, at least in some American cities. Journal reporter Sean McLean told our tech News Briefing podcast how the robo taxi rollout is going to if you've been

Sean McLean (9:14)

in Austin or Phoenix or Los Angeles or San Francisco, robo taxis are increasingly commonplace. There are hiccups like getting lost in a parking lot, and there has been some highly public incidents and accidents on the road. But the technology is becoming more stable and people are becoming more comfortable with it, and that's giving the industry confidence to roll out into more places like Detroit, Minneapolis, even trying to tackle midtown Manhattan, the industry and analysts feel the technology is stable enough to start tackling

Alex Osoleff (9:44)

harder challenges, Sean says. The robotaxi industry is currently a one horse race with Alphabet's Waymo in the lead. But industry watchers are waiting to see if other players like Tesla can catch up.

Sean McLean (9:55)

They're starting to roll out in Austin and Houston and Dallas. That's what people mostly have their eyes on. Whether or not Tesla can do the same thing with robo taxis that it did with electric vehicles and Uber, who is aggregating a bunch of different robotaxi players into their network. And even startups like Zoox, who we've been hearing about for the better part of a decade. All of these companies are starting to deploy vehicles or getting close to being able to deploy their vehicles.

Alex Osoleff (10:23)

To hear more from Sean, listen to Tuesday's episode of Tech News Briefing next week. And that's what's news for this week. Tomorrow you can look out for our weekly Markets wrap up what's news in Markets? Then on Sunday, we'll be heading to Ohio to dig into the effect of tariffs on the economy and voters. Decisions ahead of primary elections there. That's in what's New Sunday? And we'll be back with our regular show on Monday morning. Today's show is produced by Danny Lewis and Anthony Banci, with supervising producer Talia Michael lavalle wrote our theme music. Aisha Al Muslim is our development producer. Chris Zinsley is our deputy editor. I'm Alex Osola. Have a great weekend, and thanks for listening.

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