Luke Vargas (2:10)

Though Jenny said that not everyone is taking Carney's approach.

Jenny Strasberg (2:14)

There is a difference in how a lot of people are speaking publicly and how they are speaking privately in meetings with CEOs and other C Suite executives, consultants, et cetera. We're hearing a lot about anger and frustration and worry about how this order is being disrupted. But at the same time, a lot of folks won't say their words publicly.

Luke Vargas (2:41)

President Trump is set to speak at 8:30am Eastern.

Gunjan Banerjee (2:44)

And here to discuss what we can expect from those remarks, I'm joined by.

Luke Vargas (2:47)

The Journal's Washington coverage chief, Damian Paletta.

Gunjan Banerjee (2:50)

Damian, I went through our archives to recall Trump's first Davos appearance as president back in 2018. He was talking about going after China's trade practices, though he didn't mention China by name. He floated the US Joining a rework version of the tpp, that Trans Pacific Partnership trade pact. And he framed his ideological priorities in quite conciliatory terms. Saying America first did not mean America alone. Seems like quite a contrast to maybe.

Luke Vargas (3:16)

Where we are now.

Damian Paletta (3:17)

Yeah, this is a completely different president than in past years. He has a much different focus. He's very at peace, ironically, being more adversarial with US Allies. His approach here is that this is his second term, he's done playing nice, and he has his eyes on a target which is the largest island in the world, Greenland, and he's not going to take no for an answer. And so I think we saw most of his first year of his second term, business leaders, world leaders, trying to play nice with him, trying to convince him that there are alternatives to his hard charging tactics. And now, quite frankly, business leaders and world leaders have to decide whether to finally stand up to him and push back. And the question is, what do they do? What can kind of retaliatory measures can they take? Can they band together? Can Europe and Canada actually decouple from the United States? These are the sorts of conversations that are actively taking place at Davos and around the world right now as President Trump prepares to kind of draw his line in the sand or his line in the snow, so to speak, when he says, you know, what his actual plan is for Greenland, how is he going to proceed with Russia and Ukraine? You know, all these things kind of click together. Can the new world order replace an old world order that was much more cooperative and maybe slow moving, but much more of an alliance? How does it work if the US Isn't a part of that, isn't leading that alliance anymore?

Gunjan Banerjee (4:41)

Trump comfortable being adversarial, you say, and yet he's expressing confidence that, as he's put it, things are going to work out pretty well.

Luke Vargas (4:49)

Has the White House signaled what success.

Gunjan Banerjee (4:51)

For Trump would look like coming out of Davos? Is there a way they think there could be a, a negotiated settlement over.

Luke Vargas (4:57)

Greenland or something to that effect?

Damian Paletta (4:58)

No. In fact, it's really interesting you asked that, because I think there's a view in the White House that they don't, they're not exactly sure where Trump wants this to end. And so one of the frustrations for European leaders is that they don't know who to be negotiating with here. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, has made comments in recent weeks that are much more cautious. We're not going to use the military. This is something Trump wants to buy Greenland but then when President Trump speaks, it's a much more, you know, maybe we'll use the military. I'm not going to take anything off the table approach. And so it's hard for the Europeans to know exactly who to negotiate with. And that's why President Trump going to Davos here is such a key moment for the whole conversation, because they'll see how serious he is and what his ultimate objectives are.

Gunjan Banerjee (5:43)

Damien, we've been speaking a lot here about foreign policy at the World Economic Forum, and, I mean, look, I doubt most voters are as glued to Davos as we are, but does the president risk getting a bit distracted by, you know, territorial, you know, ambitions when voters we know are really focused on the economy and affordability?

Damian Paletta (6:03)

Excellent question. We're less than 10 months away from the midterm elections, and these are really consequential elections that'll determine who controls Congress in the final two years of Trump's presidency. Now, President Trump is a lame duck president. He's not going to run for reelection. So his ambitions and goals might not completely overlap with the goals of the Republican Party or even the goals of voters for voters. Affordability in the economy. These are huge issues, and those are always big issues. Those are the sorts of things that can decide elections, potentially much more so than whether the United States controls Greenland. But President Trump is in legacy mode. He's trying to think of the sorts of things that'll outlive him, the sorts of things that'll define him and his legacy going into the future. Now, ironically, this midterm election idea is kind of forcing Trump to move faster because he knows he only has 10 or 11 more months of Republican control of Congress. If Democrats take control of the House, it makes it much harder for him to operate unilaterally like this. So that might make him even more adversarial, even more aggressive with the European allies, and that could, ironically pull him even further away from voters. And that's exactly what we're going to be watching for today and in the days to come.

Gunjan Banerjee (7:10)

Journal Washington coverage chief Damian Poletta, thanks as always for dropping by.

Damian Paletta (7:13)

My pleasure. Thanks.

Luke Vargas (7:15)

Coming up, the Supreme Court weighs in on whether Trump can fire Lisa Cook.

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From the Fed board.

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And we'll explore the growing gulf in.

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The office as CEO. CEOs go all in on AI while.

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Workers feel left behind.

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Luke Vargas (8:06)

More American firepower is headed to the Middle East.

Luke Vargas (8:09)

The US Is sending a carrier, jets and air defense systems to the region.

Luke Vargas (8:13)

Giving President Trump more options for a.

Luke Vargas (8:16)

Strike on Iran Last week, Trump pulled back from ordering an attack on Iran, but he's continued to press for what terms decisive military options as the regime in Tehran tightens its control of the country.

Luke Vargas (8:32)

The Supreme Court will hear oral arguments today in a case deciding whether President Trump can fire Federal Reserve governor Lisa Cooke.

Luke Vargas (8:39)

Fed Chair Jerome Powell and the Fed have been named by Cook as defendants in her initial lawsuit contesting the president's attempt to remove her over disputed mortgage fraud allegations. Speaking to CNBC and Davos, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant, who had previously urged Trump not to fire Powell, said he thought it was inappropriate for him to attend today's hearing.

Mark Carney (9:01)

I actually think that's a mistake, because if you're trying not to politicize the Fed, for the Fed chair to be sitting there trying to put his thumb on the scale is a real mistake.

Luke Vargas (9:11)

Besant also called out Powell for not meeting with federal prosecutors last month before they issued grand jury subpoenas in a criminal investigation of the Fed's building project. Meanwhile, Senate Democrats Elizabeth Warren and Dick Durbin have demanded records from the Trump administration regarding the criminal probe into the Fed, calling it a serious misuse of power. In letters sent yesterday and seen by the Journal, they requested documents detailing how the investigation came together and any coordination between the White House DOJ and the Federal Housing Finance Agency. The Democrats demands don't carry legal weight, but could lay the groundwork for a more formal investigation in the future. Lindsey Halligan, the prosecutor who led the.

Luke Vargas (9:53)

Justice Department's cases against former FBI Director.

Luke Vargas (9:56)

James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James, is stepping down. That comes just four months after the former White House aide and personal lawyer to President Trump was installed as the top federal prosecutor in Eastern Virginia after her predecessor was forced out of the job. The indictments Halligan secured against Comey and James were later dismissed by a judge who ruled she was unlawfully appointed.

Luke Vargas (10:20)

President Trump is accelerating his effort to.

Luke Vargas (10:22)

Ban large institutional investors from buying single family homes. Yesterday, he signed an executive order telling agencies to find ways to stop the federal government from backing loans and providing other financial incentives for Wall Street. We don't have the fine print yet, though. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant has 30 days to decide exactly which investors are affected and which types of homes are off limits to them. And heads up that we've got a special bonus episode of the POD coming later today. In the latest what's News in earnings, we'll dive into what's behind the booming Wall street businesses, the country's biggest banks and the risks that bankers are looking at this year. Keep an eye that in your what's news feed midday.

Luke Vargas (11:08)

And finally, the productivity boosting powers of.

Luke Vargas (11:11)

AI are causing a growing divide in the workplace. While CEOs are rallying behind the tech, saying that it saves them more than eight hours of work a week, a.

Luke Vargas (11:20)

Majority of workers are finding AI doesn't.

Luke Vargas (11:22)

Save them any time at all and is instead another complex tool they have to manage. Journal reporter Lindsay Ellis says that between learning prompts and fixing errors, workers are feeling overwhelmed.

Lindsay Ellis (11:34)

There's been a bunch of recent data that reinforces this sense of a clear divide. For one, there was a new report from Workday, the business software company. It recently found that about 1600 employees who had surveyed about 85% of them said that they were saving one to seven hours a week by using AI. But a lot of the time that was saved, they wound up having to use to correct errors and rework AI generated content. And when you ask Americans writ large. NORC and the Wall Street Journal surveyed many of them over the summer. About 6 in 10 characterized AI and other new technologies as mostly a threat to the US Economy because of its potential to replace well paid workers.

Luke Vargas (12:21)

So how are you using AI in your work? Let us know in the Spotify comments. And that's it for what's news for this Wednesday morning. Today's show was produced by Daniel Bach and Hattie Moyer. Our supervising producer was Sandra Kilhoff. And I'm Luke Vargas for the Wall Street Journal. We'll be back tonight with a new show.

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