Shelby Holiday (1:58)

He laid out the timelines for other previous wars, which I found to be interesting. And then he said, we've only been in Iran for 32 days.

Marcus Walker (2:06)

They were the bully of the Middle east, but they're the bully no longer. This is a true investment in your children and your grandchildren's future.

Shelby Holiday (2:14)

He did not address in any way whether the US Would try to help reopen the Strait of Hormuz or whether the US Would lead convoys of ships to get the flow of oil moving again. Obviously those efforts would keep the US Troops over there for months and that could be quite a lift.

Marcus Walker (2:29)

Militarily, the United States imports almost no oil through the Hormuz Strait and Won't be taking any in the future. We don't need it. We haven't needed it, and we don't need it.

Shelby Holiday (2:41)

One of the other things I found to be interesting is he gave the Gulf countries a big shout out.

Marcus Walker (2:46)

Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the uae, Kuwait and Bahrain. They've been great, and we will not let them get hurt or fail in any way, shape or form.

Shelby Holiday (2:59)

And I wasn't sure if that meant militarily, their infrastructure has been hit by missiles and drones and they've been attacked, or if it meant economically, because these countries export a lot of oil, most of their oil, through the Gulf and out of the Strait of Hormuz. The Gulf countries are very nervous that the US could, you know, declare that mission is accomplished. They leave the region, the Strait of Hormuz remains, ship shut down or effectively controlled by Iran, and then their oil exports are held hostage. So he spoke to those concerns.

Marcus Walker (3:28)

The countries of the world that do receive oil through the Hormuz Strait must take care of that passage. They must cherish it. They must grab it and cherish it. They can do it easily. We will be helpful, but they should take the lead in protecting the oil that they so desperately depend on.

Shelby Holiday (3:46)

But he. He didn't promise or say whether the US Would help get oil shipments moving again, whether the US Would try to forcibly reopen the Strait or lead a convoy effort to get ships out. So he left a lot of questions unanswered.

Marcus Walker (3:59)

Iran has been essentially decimated. The hard part is done, so it should be easy. And in any event, when this conflict is over, the Strait will open up naturally. It'll just open up naturally. They're going to want to be able to sell oil because that's all they have to try and rebuild. It will resume the flowing and the gas prices will rapidly come back down.

Luke Vargas (4:24)

Well, Trump also predicted that stock prices will rapidly go back up and that the US Economy is strong and improving by the day. Though for now, investors seem to be bracing for continued disruption. U.S. stock futures began sliding during Trump's speech and remained down more than a percent heading into today's trading session. Asian equities fell today, led by a more than 4% drop in South Korea's Kospi index after new data showed that surging energy prices triggered a jump in consumer inflation. And oil prices have climbed more than 5% in early European trading, with analysts at ING saying that Trump's threat to strike Iran extremely hard in the coming weeks had injected fresh uncertainty into energy markets. While the President didn't mention NATO by name during his address last night. He told British media yesterday that he could potentially withdraw the US from the alliance. Trump has criticized members for their lack of support for the war in Iran. But South Europe bureau chief Marcus Walker says that withdrawing or rewriting the 1949 treaty that created the military alliance would be hard.

South Europe bureau chief Marcus Walker (5:35)

Leaving NATO formally would be legally difficult. Congress passed a law in 2023 that said the president basically is forbidden from pulling out of NATO unless its author by two thirds of the Senate or an act of Congress that would have to pass the House and the Senate. On the other hand, Trump's Justice Department in his first term came up with a legal opinion that said the president has the power to unilaterally abrogate treaties. So those two things clash. And if Trump tried to pull out of NATO, it would almost certainly end up in court. However, the point about NATO is that it's not a legalistic alliance. It's basically a political promise among a group of 30 or so countries to defend each other. So in the case of an attack on a NATO member, the question would be in the air. Would the US Go to war to defend its European allies?

Luke Vargas (6:25)

Meanwhile, the Trump administration has lifted sanctions against Venezuelan interim President Delsey Rodriguez, clearing the way for both countries to expand oil production and American foreign investment. While Rodriguez praised the shift as a significant step, other former Maduro officials remain under US Sanctions and face criminal drug trafficking charges. And China is building a new missile base in the South China Sea, resuming an island building campaign after a nearly decade long break. Reporter Mike Czerny says the construction on Antelope Reef in the disputed Paracel Islands is occurring far closer to the Chinese mainland than past projects in the Spratly Islands, which are closer to the Philippines. But that that comes with its own advantages.

Mike Czerny (7:10)

Building this island base out in the Paracels doesn't necessarily change the picture for the South China Sea disp. However, these bases would be more useful in a Taiwan conflict versus their Spratly island bases. The Spratly island bases are further south. They would be more easily cut off by China's enemies. And the facilities that they're building seem like there could be a Runway. This lagoon that has emerged could possibly hold submarines, coast Guard ships, maybe even an aircraft carrier. So there is some military utility to this for Beijing.

Luke Vargas (7:47)

Coming up, Eli Lilly's weight loss pill wins regulatory approval. And we'll look at the profession that's overtaken factory and office work as the new ticket to the middle class. Those stories and more after the break Hi, I'm Christopher Mims. And I'm Tim Higgins. We're the hosts of the Wall Street Journal's Bold Names podcast. On our show, we bring the bold name companies featured in the pages of the Wall Street Journal to life through real conversations with the people that lead them. If you're looking for more news and insights that bring you inside the C Suite, consider becoming a subscriber to the Wall street journal. Visit subscribe.WSJ.com boldnames to subscribe now. Well, the weight loss drug battle is entering a new round. After Eli Lilly yesterday won US regulatory approval for its once daily GLP1 pill, Foundao. It will be going up against the pill version of Novo Nordisk's WeGovy, which went on sale at the start of the year in what turned out to be one of the best drug launches in history. And while Foundao showed more modest weight loss results in trials compared to the Wegovy pill, Lilly CEO Dave Ricks told CNBC that he thinks people will appreciate that it can be taken right after waking up and on an empty stomach. Like other medicines we're used to taking, whether it be a statin or a blood pressure medication or a diabetes medication, we just sort of take the pill in the morning and we don't have to think about other things. It doesn't have food effects. It can be just part of your regular routine. You know, you can actually take it any time of day. If you take your medicines at night, that's okay, too. Lilly has won a weight loss fight before with its Zepbound and Mounjaro injections, now outselling the GLP1 drugs that Novo Nordisk pioneered. Analysts are betting that Foundao will generate about $21 billion in global sales for Lilly by 2030, compared with 4 billion for the WeGovy pill. Starting doses of both will be available for $149 a month in cash, with insurance bringing down some users monthly costs to just 20, exactly one year since President Trump's Liberation Day. We are exclusively reporting that his administration could announce changes to steel and aluminum tariffs as soon as this week. The shift could see a 25% tariff applied to the entire value of goods made with imported steel and aluminum, replacing a current 50% duty, which only applies to the value of the metals used in a product. The net effect of the changes could effectively raise costs for many imports. A 50% levy would remain in place for goods made almost entirely of the metals. And finally, a good factory job or steady office role used to be seen as the ticket to the American middle class. But as automation, globalized manufacturing, and now AI have threatened both blue and white collar career paths, the Journal's Gene Whalen reports that nursing has emerged as a new, reliable alternative as more and better paying roles keep opening up.

Gene Whalen (11:10)

Healthcare has created consistent job growth for a number of reasons. One is that our society is aging quickly and so elderly people need more health care. That means that our spending on health care has really accelerated in recent decades. What's more, there are very high levels of chronic illness in US Society. There are also a lot more medical tests and procedures these days than there used to be. So all of that has conspired to really drive up health care spending and demand for health care workers. Demand for registered nurses over the next decade is expected to grow by about 5% versus 3% for jobs in all occupations. And demand for advanced degree nurses is expected to grow by about 35%, which is a huge increase over the next decade.

Luke Vargas (11:59)

The median annual salary across all jobs in the US right now is $49,000 for a registered nurse, it's almost $94,000 and $132,000 for those with advanced training. And that's it for what's news for this Thursday morning. Today's show was produced by Hattie Moyer. Our supervising producer was Daniel Bok. And I'm Luke Vargas for the Wall Street Journal. We will be back tonight with a new show. Until then, thanks for

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